Wednesdays - 89. Uggs, Clumpy Mascara & 60 Denier Tights: A Flashback to Our Nostalgic Fashion
Episode Date: June 3, 2025Hey Tinies!This week, we’re chatting all things Kris Jenner and that facelift - is it iconic or have we finally gone too far with tweaking? We share our thoughts on ageing, treatments, and... the pressure to keep looking young.We also get into our dream and nightmare dates, with Melissa revealing her one absolute no-go! Plus M&S...is it genuinely making a comeback, or are we just turning into our mums? That takes us down a full nostalgia rabbit hole, as Melissa opens up about the trauma of her tights falling down at school, why 60 denier was non-negotiable, and our go-to looks back in the day - think Uggs, pearl necklaces, and clumpy mascara.In this week’s dilemmas, one Tiny’s had enough of her boyfriend brushing off her PMS, so we talk about what it’s like when your partner just doesn’t get it, and how Jamie and Toby really are during that time of the month. Another listener is worried her boyfriend’s falling for his co-star — is it just method acting, or should she be worried?Enjoy the episode xGot a dilemma, some personal advice for a fellow Tiny, or a follow-up to a previous one? Send us a voice note or message on Insta @wednesdayspodcast, or drop us an email at wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/wednesdayspodcast/TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@wednesdayspodcastEmail | wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk--Credits:Producer: @gurlinaheer_Editor: Kat MilsomExec: @jemimarathboneVideo editor: @lizziemccarthySocial: @laurabcoughlan Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Melissa, are you a doctor?
I want to be, but I'm not.
I'm not a doctor either, and we're not psychologists.
We're not.
We're not experts at anything.
In fact, we just challenge all our shit.
We love giving you guys advice, but as we said-
We love giving you guys advice.
Do not take what we're saying as gospel.
If you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help.
Hey guys! Hey guys, welcome back to another episode. Today we're discussing our favourite
date nights and also our worst nightmare of date night. We also go back in time and talk
about nostalgic outfits that you will all hopefully remember as well. And we also have
a tiny who's struggling with her PMS issues and her boyfriend not getting it. Enjoy the episode. Enjoy.
Hey, Tyes. Hey, guys. We're back. Your nails look really good. I just want to
put them down really long. Again. Every two weeks. That's a lot of time in salon.
You know what I do is I'm awful. I will watch something like the Kardashians with no headphones in.
That's so selfish.
She's like, don't mind me.
I will put my phone there and I will just put it on really low and I'm like, yeah, it's fine.
Yeah, yeah. No, no shit's going to burn.
Oh my God. Can we talk about these faces?
Christina.
Sorry.
My mom's got so much to say about it. Honestly, she really ranted down the phone.
My mum wouldn't be able to tell with that because my mum thinks that work and plastic surgery
is like what Donatella Vasace sort of thing looks like.
Someone that's heard like obvious plastic surgery.
Kris Jenner, my mum would probably look at not knowing maybe what she looked like before
and be like, wow, she looks great for her age.
No, because now you look at her and my mum's like, the thing is, is it's like me coming out
and looking like you and Georgia as your mom.
Is she literally, she looks like Kim.
Because she does.
I was like, mom, I get it.
You don't have to defend yourself.
She's like, I just don't get why they're doing it.
Also, can't you even think about the body?
So what, I'm going to walk out with your face
and then I've got, can't change from a six year old body.
And I'm like, hon, like no one's asking you to do it.
She doesn't need to get it, no pressure.
I know, I was like, no one's asking you to get one. But I think it's stressful because
that is annoying. The standards are fucked.
I know what you mean. But then it's also like, it's not really because I'm like, well, you've
got a face lift. It's like someone being like, oh my God, epic tits. And you're like, well,
they're fake. So don't worry about it. Don't compare your tits to mine. They're fake. Whatever.
You know what I mean? Just be honest.
What's worse is the Kylie Jenner's up the well getting a facelift,
who you can't tell they just look suddenly like from...
Like, I mean, she looks absolutely phenomenal.
But she doesn't look...
Do you think she's had a facelift?
100% without a doubt in my mind.
Fuck me.
And that's annoying because it's like,
well, that is really distorting the standards of beauty because you're young anyway. And then girls our age are thinking, or 25, are like,
why don't I look like her? Oh my God, are you sure she's out of face?
She looks so well known. But don't you have like a massive scar all
around your ear? No, they've all done it. Literally half, all
of them have Anne Hathaway, everyone. I know Anne Hathaway is supposedly, I keep,
because she looks so good. And people keep talking about that. I mean, what if you ever see the work?
Suddenly she came out and it was just like, I am blown away. She looks better than she did when she was 20.
She looks better than Kim.
Oh my God.
Kim must be sleeping. Kim's got a book in next week.
What I will say is Kris Jenner has always been a really attractive lady. I'm like,
she didn't actually need to get that done. It's obviously an age wanting to look younger,
but I always think she was so attractive.
I mean, it's definitely like a third or second.
She's like, obviously Hannah, and then she was like, can I have a mirror?
But this is deep, plain, so I'm going to find out. It's called a deep, plain face lift,
more expensive than the other ones, because they fucking move all your muscles. Right?
Whatever that shit is, it's good.
Instead of just sort of stretching the skin and like tucking it behind the ear and like
pinning it with the staple, they pull all your muscles up.
So like literally your whole entire face genetics has like gone back in time.
I'm probably saying this all completely wrong, but I've seen this on TikTok.
Watch me in two years, just go on.
I do think it is scary for the younger generation growing up into this.
Like we, I've grown up and like everyone's doing it now in a natural way,
which is like kind of better, but like, I don't know. That is unrealistic standards
of beauty and I am like aware of that. I think you've just got to really, I don't know.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
It's a lot of like learning.
But then on the flip side, it's like really great for people that have an insecurity about
something. Let's say someone's always been insecure of their chin or their jaw and like there's something they can do about it and they might give them a whole
new lease of life. So I, you know, there's pros and cons.
A hundred percent. I haven't had my jaw botox in a while guys.
You're telling me.
But that's because I'm getting my palates found and I want to see what happens. And
then in a year's time, I'm going to have small gaps between all my teeth guys. It's like
a really small wire that goes behind all of my front, my top and bottom teeth so you won't see it. It's
not like I don't have braces or anything. It's like a retainer. And after all these
tongue exercises and like a lot of, it's like very crony osteopathy vibes, very like holistic.
And it's hopefully going to make sure that I never grind my teeth ever again. And so
hopefully I'll never have to have Botox in my drawing. I never have to have a frozen
smile and that shit from the Botox. Can't fucking wait not to have that problem.
I got my first appointment with the craniology or whatever they call that she gave me 6th
of June because I'm going to try and do.
But I've been doing all the exercises and I'm telling you now, just that she gave me
loads to stop grinding my teeth and honestly I can feel it.
I can actually feel it and there's no ridges in my mouth.
So obviously it's working. But one of the biggest things she did say forges in my mouth. So I'm obviously, it's working.
But one of the biggest things she did say for me was even though I know I'm a nose breather,
I don't breathe out my mouth.
She was like, you must just not be getting enough air in.
So I've done that nose thing and I do think it's really helped my grinding of the teeth
because I definitely am grinding nests.
Because grinding teeth guys is about a lack of air.
You're doing it because you can't get enough air in most of the time.
That's the reason why we do it.
So hopefully this Pellex blender will fix that.
I just got back from Portugal.
It was so lovely.
And I was with my mom and my sister and Bella.
Sweet baby Bella.
And I really got an insight into the baby world.
Mom life.
Because you're with her for what, a week?
Yeah.
And obviously, George has never had a single like ounce of help. Like she
very much like... Does it all herself?
Yeah. Like no. Yeah. Which so many people do, which is just amazing. But like, just
like the level of respect I have for moms, I'm like, like, it's not, it's not fucking,
it's not a joke. It's not a joke. The amount of stuff you're packing up a planet every
time you move. I'm
like, surely we don't need all the stuff. Off she goes. And even carrying the baby is
quite heavy.
Oh, I know.
I was like, out my arm hurts. Do you want to go back?
Also, you can do your back ends. You have to hold your stomach in exercise as you're
doing it.
And also Bella is honestly, she is such a character, but she is the most hyperactive
child I've ever. So well behaved. She cry once. Like she literally just smiles and laughs. Like she's
the happiest baby ever. And like she's just, I'm in love with her, but like she is just
her dad is like so energetic and like ADHD vibes. And I was like, this baby is like just
doodoo the feet are like the whole time just doesn't say so. But it was so fun and we just had like a really sweet wholesome galley time.
It's also quite nice for Georgia that she could like give the baby to your mom and then
she can have a shower.
Yeah, none of us switched it off.
Me and mom were like, oh my God, I'm so tired.
And Georgia was like, why are you so tired?
And I was like, I think it's the fact like I've been entertaining baby five days.
Like I honestly got on the plane and I was like.
I was like, thank God I'm not sat next to Georgia and the baby.
I was sat next to her, but I was like, just wake me up if you need me.
And I literally had she had a ballerina seat on one shoulder and me on the other.
Oh my God. I need to close my eyes.
Fucking hell. So gorgeous.
So what did you do in Bangkok?
She went to the church. Went to the tip. The tip. Sending Sophie pictures.
Very adult.
Very adult.
Don't tell me that was all you did.
I did loads of things, but like nothing that was particularly like wild.
No nights out?
No, no nights out.
It was very wholesome.
I wasn't hungover.
Oh my God.
Thank God.
But let me tell you, this week guys, it's Ruby's 30th birthday this week, it's going
to be a lot.
And I can't go on Friday, so I've got a wedding in Mallorca.
God, she's so beautiful.
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. wasn't hung over. Thank God. But let me tell you, this week, guys, it's Ruby's 30th birthday
this week. It's going to be a lot. And I can't go on Friday, so I've got a wedding in Mallorca.
God, she's always on flights these days.
I really have spent my whole May abroad. It's actually great. I honestly feel like I'm...
Up commuting back and forth.
It's next level.
What wedding dress are you wearing for the wedding? Where did you get it from?
I don't know, but I've got a really cool one for the Friday night. And then I'm wearing
that white because it's a white party on this boat day.
I'm wearing that white dress we bought together from that like weird pop-up shop.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was so nice. But you know the crochet one.
Exactly. Yeah.
And I can't wait. And like Jamie's like coming for the whole time, which is unheard of.
And like the wedding's very much every activity is very late in the day.
So like me and him will literally just have a three day holiday as well.
It's really and we're saying in love.
I'm really excited.
Oh my God, that's so nice.
Jamie like stood me up at a dinner reservation for an hour.
Right, so this is Sophie's anniversary.
Wait, it wasn't an hour, it was 30 minutes.
He was very upset, but 30 minutes is 30 minutes.
It's a fucking long time.
I was like-
To sit there alone in a restaurant.
So I called him and I was like,
what do you want me to do?
Like I basically call being like, right, play it cool,
but he's already five minutes late.
I hear him saying goodbye to Jamport team
or kind of Kitten scene.
I'm like, you fucking joking.
So I'm like, where are you?
Oh no, that's not good.
He's like, bye-bye guys, I'll be right back.
And I'm like, I've already been five minutes.
I just come off the phone with you, do you remember?
Yes, you were like, I'm off.
You were at home, I'm off.
Yeah.
Got dinner reservation.
I didn't even like get changed. I was like, oh, I was in like-
Do you want to be late for him?
Yeah. But anyway, we ended up having a lovely time and we have really nice snails there.
You should go.
I love escargot.
I know. And they were with bone marrow. It was like, oh, don't. It was really delicious.
Oh my God. That is so delicious.
It was like a stampede.
And this is wild.
This is wild and not in here, which we love.
God, you fool.
I haven't had a date night in a while.
It's necessary, isn't it, every now and then.
You've got to keep up with the date nights, guys.
They say once a week.
I'm like, that's a bit much.
It is when you've booked in to see your friends and this, that, and the other, and then you're
out every week.
Does that count as just having a supper at home together that you've cooked?
I think so, surely.
Actually, that's good.
Because surely then I have one every night.
Well, yeah, that's true.
But half the time with that, it's good. Because surely then I have one every night. Well, yeah, that's true. But like half the time with that, I'm like, it's like really, really conventional.
Like I'm there to eat, like we'll have a top chat.
And then it's like, I'm not sat like dressing up and having a deep conversation.
Oh no, obviously not.
I'm there to like eat my food.
And what I will say when you go out for dinner, like there's something to be said for like,
the conversations you have are just different.
Really fun, yeah.
It like feels sometimes you're going back to like dating, like the questions that you
ask each other and you get really deep into a topic and you're like, we wouldn't have
done this at home.
And tell us like weird stories and like the weird-
Yeah, and I'm like, God, how am I still finding out this shit about you?
I know.
It's fascinating, isn't it?
It is.
What's your ideal date night then?
You tell me yours first.
Mine would be like on holiday.
Okay.
Because we're just like, that's my favorite time ever. And like just going to a gorgeous restaurant, getting them first, sunsets going down, having
a lovely cocktail, some nuts and olives.
Yeah.
And then moving over ordering like, and just like that like really nice sky.
Yeah.
And then you eat the most delicious food and then like it's all just a bit fun.
And then like you go and get ice cream afterwards and go home.
Your favorite thing is the ice cream.
I would say mine's the same.
Yeah, just like, what would you want?
What am I gonna say?
Go on a jet ski.
What I can tell you is my nightmare of a date
and this is my sister's perfect date activities.
I couldn't fucking think of anything.
I couldn't think of anything else.
They like a ping pong or a mini golf
and I am like, I hate.
God love them.
That's so sweet.
They love it.
No, I almost just don't believe it.
I'm like, I think she's just lying.
They still like it.
Even like they're married and whatever.
I'm like, I just don't get it.
Mini golf, it's like any of those sort of like weird games in London.
Activities.
It's like organized fun.
Would you call it organized fun?
Yeah.
I would love to know as the listeners, like what your ideal date night is and also what
your worst nightmare is. Because for me, like mini golf, that sort of shit, I honestly would
rather just stay at home.
Me and JB did a lot of cinema at the beginning.
Okay, right. Talk me through that because how are you chatting?
Well, we kind of, we knew each other really well because of the fit and because of, and
it was just like quite fun and sweet and like we would also
try to keep things under wrap and like didn't want to go to like restaurants and bump into
all sorts of exes and weird things. So we were just like, there we go and we get a pick
mix and then like straw, they were nonstop.
Toby and I's first dates were just like loads of restaurants, bars.
Basically, it's really fun to get drunk when you're first dating someone. Like getting
drunk with someone fancy is like where it's at.
Yeah.
Like I would always just drink, I remember we'd always drink red wine
and like I would get hammered on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's just like a really lovely drunk and then you kind of wake up and you're like,
oh god.
What did I say last night?
Yeah.
Oops-a-daisy.
It is very fun.
Oh my god, sweet fit flop, reached out, we spoke about it on the podcast.
I know, I got myself a pair of black ones.
I chose some similar to that actually, but they did not look good on my head.
Fit flops are dollies.
They do, but not quite the same as that.
That's very much so just a traditional pump.
This was a fit flop version of a pump.
That's taking me back to school.
I was desperate to wear a ballet pump.
My mom went, she's nice pump.
But she was really fucking annoying because all the cool kids had pants.
And they were like really flimsy, like falling off the street at the end of the year.
And if it rained, like if you walk out the side of the street, it rains.
Only if you're stopping at school.
Yeah, yeah. You're done for.
And then the tights are wet and your feet smell.
I know, yeah.
Do you know that that whole thing at school?
It really brings it back.
And then the sole starts coming off.
Oh, nightmare.
And that actually I didn't like, and that was really quite ugly.
Mm-hmm.
God, do you remember like the tights were such a situation like when I was like, get
me a nice pair of goddamn tights.
Why did they sag?
The crotch of my tights would come down to like my knees and I'd be like, what the fuck?
It doesn't do it anymore.
You rolled them over.
Like I rolled my tights over my skirt.
To hold the skirt up short.
Oh my God, it's all coming back to me.
And then if like it ripped, it was just like such a bad...
Actually, I kind of think I liked it if I got a hole in my tights.
I was like, oh cool.
Edgy.
Also, what was with the 60 denier?
I was like, I cannot have anything other than 60 denier, which to me now is like really
disgusting.
It had to be so thick.
So thick.
And I would be like, mom, they're not 60 denier.
Like if they were thin tights, which are now like so in, I'd be like, this is a sacrilege. This is horrendous.
Don't you remember that?
Yeah, I do.
And like, it was quite hard to get a 60 denier in our size because that's why we were probably
wearing like the really long-
Because it bulked out the legs and I hated how skinny my legs were. So I wanted them
to look bigger.
Is that why we wanted them?
So I was like, the thicker the better with the tights.
I just think it wasn't a vibe to have a thin tie at school. Like it was really out. Like
you wanted the thick tight.
I think I used to go to M&S and everyone used to talk about how good the M&S tights were.
I think that was really the only place I could get anything from back in the day was M&S.
We were actually going to talk about the fact that M&S is having like a major comeback.
Such a comeback.
Okay. So everyone on TikTok is basically saying like,
is M&S coming back in terms of clothing or are we just getting older?
But what I will say is like, the new in vibe, right?
Yeah.
It's like quite old, like the clean girl, like the healthy girl.
Like to be cool is like, I want to wear like organic cotton M&S pants.
I don't know if it's the Sienna Miller collab maybe like kicked things off in like a good
direction.
Don't know.
I think so.
But Brazy Young Jean Whiteley has always been heavily involved hasn't she?
In the underwear side of things.
She's got her own collection with them still.
You know what it is?
It's like walking in there.
It's just giving me like a day out with my grandma.
I know exactly what you mean.
That's what I used to do.
She'd take me to M&S.
Absolutely.
And we would get like some organic cotton basics.
I think I get those little vests.
Do you remember like the white vest?
And with the holes in them.
Yeah, that's where underneath my winter skirt shirt.
And then it has a little like miniature rose in the middle at the top.
And we'd wear around our school shirts.
Yes, thermals.
When you've got an older sister, you skip the angel bra scenario and your mom's a bit
done with that at that point. She's like, just jump to whatever George is wearing.
So this bra guys is like, it's not a full cup. I would say it's a flat bit of padding
with, it's got like a groove in the middle.
And you would have like a gray one with a pink lace trim or a bright, bright blue lace
trim.
Something like that.
And that was so cool. And then you'd be able to wear it out with the boys and you'd wear a tank top and a bit
of the lace trim.
And then as soon as you were allowed to wear a thong, it'd be like ultra lace, ultra sexy.
We were going to La Cenza.
Oh my God, La Cenza!
And we were getting push-up, push-up bras.
I think there was ones with like actual air pads in there.
Does anyone remember that?
Yes, I do.
The removable bit of air pads.
Yes, I remember so frigging well. And then I would put it in. Sometimes I'd double up
on the airpads in a bra. I'm not kidding, guys. And those lacy pants, they were the
censor.
It was like three for 12 quid or something. It was unreal.
Oh my god. And this was the day when there would be a Jane Norman and a Miss Selfridge
downstairs.
Jane Norman. Don't even with Jane Norman.
Miss Selfridge was where I loved Miss Selfridge.
Miss Selfridge was actually quite classy, I thought.
I used to get my bodycon skirts from there.
Absolutely.
And that was very nice.
Absolutely.
With my pearl necklace long.
Oh my God, with a knot in it.
With a knot in it.
Oh yeah, always a knot.
Why do we do a knot?
And then my 60 denier tights, a pair of Ugg boots.
Oh my God, no way.
A tank top.
I can't remember what jackets I wore.
A long cardigan.
A cardi.
A cardi that was long over the bum.
Always long.
Awful.
Pearl necklaces with the knot.
With the tied in the knot.
Tied round once the neck in a knot.
Parting on the side of your head, near your ear.
And then scrunched up messy hair.
Not a single stitch of makeup. Maybe if I was lucky, I
grabbed some of the streamers. I actually never had that. My mom genuinely had a really
van der Tjentse. And then just a bit of eyeliner.
Eyeliner, lots of black eyeliner in that waterline.
And so much thick mascara, like disgustingly thick.
Yeah, like almost like really clumpy.
Oh, when I put concealer on my lips.
Foundation on the lips, absolutely.
Oh, earrings. I don't think I bolted into the mirror.
I don't think my ears are really piercing, I was dressing like this at this point.
This is like pre-14.
I didn't have nail varnish on at this point.
No, I'm trying to think of what else we used to do.
Skinny, skinny, skinny, skinny jeans.
And it was like this in every photo.
Eyebrows really high.
Or like your tongue would be out.
And like hair was literally like this and you were like...
Oh my God, no, dead.
You couldn't be more accurate.
I also feel like we used to wear vans a lot, like really brightly colored vans.
And then we'd swap one van with another friend.
So it'd be like one blue, one pink van.
And like all the bright colors would be like the brighter, the better.
And every party was a neon party.
Every party was a neon party.
I wear a white tank top to every party with neon beaded necklace.
She loves the beads.
I love the beads.
Paint on me and like hair like this and like smudged mascara.
It was that very like Jack Will's English look that became my vibe.
Then what came after the body-comb skirts was the Jack Will trackies with the Jack Will's
pants.
Absolutely.
Low ugg boots with the trackies, obviously.
Did you ever do jewels?
Absolutely, jewels.
Oh yeah.
And the mini-Boden.
I ran the Jackals running with the jewels, like stripy rugby shirt.
Oh my God, yeah, the collared one.
Pearl necklace, hair like this, all around frampolo, like what the fuck.
Hair like that.
Exactly.
Massive pearl necklace and Uggbees.
You know what's really cringe about that? like what the fuck? Hair like that, massive ponechus and uggies.
You know what's really cringe about that? You know when salt berm and it goes back to
those years and it shows you the posh trouts and what they were wearing, I'm like that
was us. That is what we were wearing. All of that sort of shit. Thank you, you were
so fucking cool. Let's go into Dilemma because we've really rambled on.
Sorry guys, yeah.
Dilemma one.
Hi, Sophie and Melissa.
I have a bit of a dilemma and would really love your advice.
I've been married to my husband for a year and we've been together for eight years.
Recently we both joined a musical theatre group to meet new people and have some fun.
My husband auditioned and got the lead role, which I was super proud of. But the lead is a romantic
character, which means he has to kiss and act in a lovey-dovey way with the female lead.
I felt a bit uneasy about it at first, but I found out she's also married, which helped calm my nerves.
Last week, though, he asked if he could rehearse a group dance with her at our
house, just the two of them while I was away.
That felt a little off to me.
I told him I'd rather he practice a group stuff with me and saved anything
with her for rehearsals.
He said that was fine and explained he was just nervous about the dancing.
I appreciated that, but I also felt a little hurt that he didn't seem to
consider how that might make me feel.
Then at rehearsals last week, I noticed him staring at her. Oh no.
I can't bear that for you because I would notice something like that too.
So this is alarm bells from the star.
Sorry, have you ever been with a boy?
I have.
No, never.
I have, and I've been at an after party and it's vividly in my mind.
When you've seen them. And I'm like have, and I've been at an after-party and it's vividly in my mind.
When you've seen them.
And I'm like, why are you fucking staring at that girl?
But you can't say anything because you're a psychopath.
I'm like, oh my God, you're staring at her.
I actually don't think I've ever had that, but that would drive me insane.
No, it's gut-wrenching, actually.
That would drive me insane.
Because you think, oh my God, you're in love with her.
And there's nothing you can do.
Can't say, why are you looking at her?
It's awful.
I would.
You definitely did.
There's no way you are helping your dad.
I think I actually didn't, you know, I was really, really quite chill. I wasn't jealous
at uni. If that happened now, I'd be so jealous. But I do remember-
Jamie would lose a toe if that happened now.
Guys, it would be, I mean, it'd be game over.
I would also do it for you.
I'd be like, stay in front of the girl and him and be like, why are you fucking staring
at that girl?
I know I can overthink and get jealousy easily, but now I can't stop thinking about it.
Am I just overthinking this or is there something here I should pay attention to?
No, no, no, not the staring thing for me.
That's too much for me.
The staring thing I've been there, it's not good.
It's bad vibes.
What I will say is I feel like you've already got a gut feeling.
You had a weird feeling about her coming over to the house for the rehearsal without you being there. That's
giving weird vibes.
Because you know what the thing is with a guy, I will say they're really unsubtle. And
I do think if a boy fancies someone like, you wouldn't know with a girl, because I actually
just stare at random men. Like I stare at random women. I'm just staring and it doesn't
mean anything. But like I do think a guy, they're just not as like
wits about them. And I do think like, well, I certainly think if, boy, you know, it's me,
you've too long, I'm like, oh, you're gonna love me then.
Definitely fancies me.
You do too, don't you?
Yeah, it's terrible.
Right. It's probably most likely just a little crush. I'm sure like he's got method acting going
on and he's like decided to fall in love with her
for the character.
If you're gonna put your husband with a pretty girl
in an acting scenario where they have to fall in love
and they have to kiss,
naturally you're probably gonna feel some feels.
Like I hate to think like if I was put in that position,
I don't know, I'd probably be like,
oh, I probably like this guy.
I don't know.
I know I can imagine.
It's such a confusing thing,
especially if you've never really acted before. This isn't like your normal thing. This is a new
hobby. And he's probably thinking, fuck, I mean, like we're actually in love and real.
So there's two scenarios I'm going to put in your brain, right? Either you like leave him to his
own devices to see what he fucking does. And that allows you to see the truth because ultimately,
what you want him to do by you not interfering with this is him be very loyal to you and
be like, Oh God, like, obviously, like, you know, he may might have taken it a bit far
in his mind, but gets over it pulls back realizes that that's wrong. Nothing happens. It's all
professional end of show, great stuff. That's the end of that story. Or you intervene and like tell him no and then it's like almost annoying because
you're never going to know if he was going to do it without you intervening. So then
it's like you're always going to have that thing in the back of your mind like, oh my
God, if I didn't stop this, like would he have gone there with her? Do you know what
I mean?
And also like I do think there's something with forbid and fruit, like the minute you
do that, you're probably going to plant the idea into his mind. He might actually just
have been staring at her and then you've said that and he's actually like, oh, maybe I do
fancy her.
It's a moment when you've got a gut feeling, you've got a gut feeling.
I agree. I think you've really got it. It's really uncomfortable in this shit situation,
but like, it's probably going to be what, six weeks till the play's over, hopefully.
You've just got to grin and bear it and like try and be supportive.
As you can, I would really confide in your friends because you're going to want to vent.
Absolutely.
And you don't want to vent to him.
Yeah.
Because you're going to start to hate that woman so, so, so much.
And you might start to really piss him, like hate him, like you might be really pissed
off at him.
I would be.
I'd be so fucking resentful.
I'd be like, how's the play?
Me too.
I'd be like, hers play. Me too.
I'd be like, she's hideous and so are you.
So you know what you could do?
Maybe see how the husband.
Oh my God, yeah.
I don't know if the husband's also involved in the play or what.
Go on a double date with the husband maybe.
Ultimately, like your trust in him is slightly gone already,
I think, because you're not trusting him to come over to your house
and, like, rehearse with her. You've said no.
So, ultimately, you're already, like, your trust is, like, failing away a bit.
And, like, I know that comes and goes, but, like, your gut is really, like...
You've kind of made up your mind that something's already going on
and you're worried about it.
I really need a follow-up. Like, I really fucking need to know
what's going to happen with this.
This is very much like a movie with, like Roberts in it and she's the woman who's in
the play with him. Keep us updated.
Please, please keep us updated.
We're sending you so much love because I can like really feel it in my heart for you.
You don't deserve to be feeling like this.
No.
Do you know what I mean? No way.
But like it could all be in your head. So like let's just, let's just like grit our teeth
for a little bit. Keep writing them. We'll keep reading these out and we'll just have an open dialogue about this whole situation
because I feel very invested personally.
Yeah, me too.
But I hope it's okay.
Love you so much.
Yeah, love you so much.
Okay, dilemma two.
Girls, help.
I'm in such a dilemma.
I slept with my ex.
We've all been there.
For context, we were together for three and a half years and broke up eight months ago.
I ended it because I wanted to be single. I'd just come out of another long-term relationship
before we met and he didn't always treat me right. He'd flake on plans and wasn't always respectful.
It took me ages to rebuild the courage to end things, so I'm confused why I'm now questioning
it all. When we saw each other again, it felt amazing. So easy to slip back into the good parts.
He's still devastated and says he'd do anything
to get back together.
I can see he's changed cute eye rolls from my friends,
but I don't know if I've changed enough
or done enough self growth I wanted.
I'm scared of leaving him on, I'm scared of leading him on.
I've told him that and he insists I'm not, but I'm torn.
It feels so good being with him again,
but am I doing this for the right reasons?
Am I ready to end my single area?
What should I do?
I don't feel like you're ready to end it.
I think you know you and you're gut.
Otherwise, you'd just be like...
We're back together.
The easy option and the kind of dream option is like,
oh, he's changed, let's get back with the ex.
But if you're even questioning it,
your gut is being like, don't do it yet.
I agree.
Shag some more boys, go on some more dates,
have a bit more fun, let your hair down.
If you're still wanting him and missing him and you still have fireworks when you see
him, get back with him.
I have never seen you be so vocal about Dylammers and I'm obsessed.
Really?
The advice is just flowing off the tongue.
Really?
Absolutely.
Wait, what did I know?
You're like, what do you think then?
God, I'm so sorry what do you think then?
God, I'm so sorry guys.
No, this is unreal.
This is what we needed.
That's what I'm more sorry about.
That was just really good advice.
I don't really think I need to say anything else.
It was good advice.
It feels easy because I can sense her gut.
I know. And also, it's so easy to slip back with an ex and like slip back to that old connection
that you had.
It just is.
Like, if you haven't left on like an ick and you haven't left the relationship being so
over and disgusted with somebody, it's so easy to slip back into the connection with
them and like the familiarity and like everything.
Yeah, it's cozy vibes, isn't it?
It's cozy and like it feels like you're dating again for the first time. It's like quite exciting. Yeah. To break up with someone in the first
place is like a really big deal. I felt like you did that for a reason and you have to
try and like take yourself back to that headspace. It's really easy to convince yourself like,
oh, yeah, he wasn't that bad. Like, obviously he's changed. Yeah. And like, you like put
the rose tinted glasses on bit. I also think it's meant to be you'll get back together.
And if you don't get back together, then you were meant to like not get back together,
but like give it some breathing room.
And then if you still feel this way in a year, like or six months, and you've gone on loads
of dates and they're not the same as him.
100%.
Why don't you just say to him like, look, I love you.
I still love you.
I never stopped loving you and I haven't got over you. But I'm
still doing this journey of self-discovery. And I really need to just heal myself and get to a
certain place in my life. I'm ready for a relationship again, because that's what you deserve.
So I need a few more months. And that's how you manipulate. And that's what they do to us.
It's just the way the world works really, isn't it? Absolutely. And he'll be fine with that. You've got to stroke his ego. What is it called?
Shit sandwich.
Yeah.
Let us know how you get on. We love you so much.
Love you.
Okay, dilemma three. Hey girls, I really need some woman to woman advice. I've been
with my boyfriend for just over a year and he is truly amazing. Our relationship
feels like a fairy tale and we both see a future together. But one thing has been
Our relationship feels like a fairy tale, and we both see a future together.
But one thing has been weighing on my mind lately,
and it's starting to really hurt.
He struggles to understand how much our cycles affect us.
When I'm on my fit period, I feel low, emotional,
and sensitive, which I think is totally normal.
But instead of offering support, which I told him I need,
he shuts me down.
He says I'm just using my period as an excuse to be moody
and basically ignores me. Every month I end up feeling alone and misunderstood by someone I love deeply.
Am I wrong to feel hurt by this? Should I just let it go? Have you guys ever experienced
anything like this with Toby or Jamie? How do you think we should be supported during
this time? I love this man and we have an amazing life together, but this is starting
to chip away at me. Would love to hear your thoughts." God, I had that for E. Jamie was honestly like,
shut the fuck up. And then I think I sent him some shit or I just kept hounding it down
him. Oh, you know what it was? It was other girls saying it to him. Other girls being
like, no, no, no, that's not, she's not joking. And he was like, oops. And I was like, yeah,
see, you feel bad. You got have sent him some things on Instagram.
There's so much information out there.
So much information.
Send him PMS, send him this and the other.
Fuel his information.
Yeah, get him to understand it a little bit more.
He's never gonna fully understand
because he's never gonna feel it,
which is like so funny,
but they're never gonna be able to feel like that.
I know.
But you can say, like, look, I know you're never gonna understand how I'm feeling,
but I need you to just be okay with this is how I'm feeling,
and just, you know, just be a bit nicer to me,
because then I'll be nicer to you.
Yeah.
And then we'll have a nicer time.
You've actually got to, like, sit down with them and be like,
by the way, like, you're not taking this seriously,
and I don't want to make this deep or a big deal,
like, it happens to every fucking woman.
Just be nice to me.
But, like, if you're being a dick about it and like that's, that's like stand up for
yourself and be like, like inform yourself if you're going to be so ignorant about it
because this is what happens to 50% of the population and you're walking around with
your head in the sand.
Absolutely.
There is also something to be said for like, I think some people are like, use it as an
excuse to be a dick or a bitch,
which I actually don't think is right.
Because sometimes I catch myself being a bit mean and snappy and short with Toby,
and I'm like, that was actually really mean, and he just takes it.
And I'm like, no, I'm really sorry, that was really out of order.
It's not your fault that I'm feeling this hormone and you've done nothing wrong.
Yeah, because also you can control your hormones.
You're not going to scream at a man in the street,
so why would you scream at your husband or your boyfriend?
100%. I think it's like being like looking inward a bit
and like having to try and maintain an element of like,
they're the first person I want to get pissed off at,
but I need to really, really, really, really, really try not to.
Because ultimately you can't just use it.
It's not my fucking fault. I'm PMSing.
I get it from the other side.
Me too.
Because when Toby's in a bad mood, I'm like, I get so annoyed.
I'm like, you fucking ruin my flight.
You've ruined my holiday because you're in a bad mood.
And I'm like, God forbid what that's like for them.
Every fucking time.
But Toby, I'm really lucky, doesn't ever complain.
I know. Jamie doesn't either.
So I understand, like, I understand if there's a bit of frustration
because I can imagine it is a bit of frustration because I can imagine
it is a bit fucking frustrating if you're in a bad mood.
I get it.
But also like, he then needs to rein it in and just be like, oh, I'm frustrated because
you're in a bad mood and like, I know you can't help it, but I'm still frustrated and
that's also okay.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, it's the same when like Jamie comes home from like, he just did big radio Liverpool,
whatever it's called.
He was in the foulest mood with me for three days and I was just like, he's so fucking tired. Like, and I just
leave it. I'm like, I could be like, you're in a foul mood, but I was just like, what
am I meant to do? And like, you've just, it's the same thing. Like he, you've just got a
compromise in relationships. I think that just comes in maturity.
A hundred percent.
Look at us, mature.
A hundred percent. The other day, I was like really, really, really annoyed with Toby for something that was like
kind of irrational.
Oh yeah.
Very irrational actually.
I spoke to you about it and I was like, obviously being a bit short with him and I didn't explain
to him what the problem was.
And I was like, you know what?
I don't need to tell you what it is.
I'm just having a mean moment.
Just let me have my moment and I'll go over it.
And then he was like, I think I said this last week, he was like, oh, are you PMSing?
Oh, sweet. Is that what's going on? Is it just a PMS thing? And I was like, actually,
no, I'm ovulating. Technically, I should be in an epic mood.
Look, it's great, but we're still learning more about it. And like, like, let's give
them also a bit of slack. Like they don't, they're not in our bodies. They don't have
the metal hormones. They're never going to be able to feel it.
And like, they can't feel it. So like, it is just a situation of like teaching them and like having patience both sides.
Both sides, yeah.
100%.
But we feel you and the scars can stick together.
Love you.
Love you.
Guys, that's the end of the episode.
I love you guys so much.
Ciao guys.
Thank you for listening.
Bye.
Bye.
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Yeah, I'd really love a follow up to some of those dilemmas.
I want to know what happens.
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