Wednesdays - 9: My BFF is SELLING my clothes on DEPOP

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

It’s friends-giving this week tinies so we chat all things friendship & Sophie gives Melissa a very special gift. We chat sisters before misters, gut feelings about potential friends and ho...w to meet new people.Plus, we read some of your dilemmas include a BRIDEZILLA from hell and cutting off an unhealthy friendship. Instagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayspodcastEmail: wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk-Credits:Podcast Producer & Editor: @kat.milsomAdditional Producer: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Social Media: @thechampagencyAssistant Producer: @maiaadelia.docs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Melissa are you a doctor uh I want to be but I'm not I'm not a doctor either and we're not psychologists and we're not experts at anything in fact we just chatted all the shit so and we love giving you guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help. This is for nipples. And it's, oh my god, no, the funniest thing. So Zara, my manager, was at my house. Yeah. She's pregnant, so
Starting point is 00:00:38 she kept pointing at this and I had a videographer at my house too and she was like, hide this. And I was like, why? It's nipple cream. Like, you can borrow some if you want. I thought she was pregnant and wanting it.
Starting point is 00:00:47 She thought it was Jamie's pearls cream and she was like, why do you have it out on display? What is that pearls cream called? It's called something. Something similar to homeoplasmy. Oh my God,
Starting point is 00:00:58 what is it called? Why do these boys like, so much? Like, just relax. Apparently it's because people,
Starting point is 00:01:04 blokes, sit on the loo for like 25 minutes on their phones. 100%. That's all just relax. Apparently, it's because people, blokes, sit on the loo for like 25 minutes on their phones. 100%. That's all it is. Yeah, Jamie's an outlier. How men's... What? I thought that pause was from squeezing your butt so much.
Starting point is 00:01:15 So did I. Or cycling, people say. And when you're pregnant, you get it. Why do we get it when we're pregnant? That's a random... For fuck's sake, we get enough when we're pregnant. Yeah, I know. We pass that on.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Mental, mental, mental. No, what I get when I'm cycling, not like ever cycle. When have you ever, ever, what, a Boris bike like twice a year? No, no, when I was like younger and we would go on family trips. Oh my God. Okay. Quite the tour de France over here, yeah. Quite, this honestly might have happened once in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:01:40 But the bruising on my vagina is next to none. No, but do you know what I mean? I don't think I've cycled enough to get a serious bruise on my vagina. My sister can't ride a bike. Fools are terrified of this. Really? It's quite the skill, running a bike.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It's very scary. I really credit where credit's due to people who ride a Boris bike because I'd be so scared in London. I get on the back of Toby's line bike so he'll cycle on his like stand up
Starting point is 00:02:08 and I sit on the bike with my legs out to the side when we're drunk we always go home like that if we can't get on the scooter. How's it? It's so fucking dangerous don't ask me.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And he's always and I'm always like freaking out and he's like shut up just get on and he's just like so fam and I'm like okay.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And then why do you have your legs up for car car fam? Boo! Chop those little titsies off. We don't know it's like just going up basically Portobello or something like it okay. And then why do you have your legs up? A car comes round, boof, chop those little titsies off. We don't, no, no. It's like just going up basically Portobello or something. Like it's not anything crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Do you remember, oh no, you weren't there when we had filmed, we filmed in South Africa, oh, Buenos Aires. No, I wasn't there for either of those. And we did, that was the first time I went on a line bike. They weren't in England at this point.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Oh my God. And we would bomb around Buenos Aires. You mean to see a scooter? It was a scooter, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So quite different, but still. So fun, those were the days. Scooters are great. point and we would bomb around when I saw a scooter it was a scooter yeah yeah yeah different but still so fun those were the days scooters are great we did a half an hour journey two of us on a scooter the other day but all on like the back streets what you're not no I really got confused
Starting point is 00:02:57 you and I did we you would have believed me if I could convince you that I would have my my short term memory like yeah me too it's so shocking I don't know what we're doing we need to get why am I crying as well you're not that funny right now why am I crying not sure maybe it's air con in the room
Starting point is 00:03:11 it's not that cold in here though is it so anything is quite warm in here right anyway right okay it's friendsgiving I can't wait
Starting point is 00:03:18 also we booked in our Christmas special what was the other shop talking you are loving this Christmas special it's honestly I'm really excited
Starting point is 00:03:24 she can't stop talking to Christmas special. I'm really excited to go to the Toby Carvery. She can't stop talking to me about this. I'm really excited. I want to try some I also don't eat pork anymore. Oh why? Parasites.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Also you know pork is the same molecular formula as humans so actually if you're eating pork you're basically a carnivore. Yeah but you know what we drink
Starting point is 00:03:41 I drink cow's milk and it's a bit odd. Cannibal? Cannibal. Do you remember Cannibal Lecter?? A Hannibal? I drink cow's milk and it's a bit odd. Hannibal? Hannibal. Do you remember Hannibal Lecter? That was Hannibal Lecter. Oh, I never watched it. But I think he did eat people.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Well, yeah, obviously, hence the name. No, that's Cannibal. This was Hannibal Lecter. Yeah, but what other would be? I think because he put other people, he killed them, put their skin over him. Fucking weird. Okay, right, let's get. Fucking weird. Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Let's get on to it. So, Friendsgiving, obviously. Well, I've actually celebrated Friendsgiving every year because Thanksgiving, my parents are never really around. So, Friendsgiving is just basically you spend Thanksgiving, but you do it with your mates. It's quite nice. I've never, ever done anything for Thanksgiving in my entire life. What day is it?
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's the last Thursday in November. Right. Okay. I only started doing it because my brother at the time had an American girlfriend. She was over with us at the time. So, then my mum did the whole Thanksgiving roast, the turkey, okay. I only started doing it because my brother at the time had an American girlfriend and she was over with us at the time. So then my mum did the whole Thanksgiving, roast the turkey, everything. And we did yams, which is sweet potato and marshmallows on the top in the oven. It sounds weird. It's fucking good. Wait, wait, wait. My whole life I've wanted to know what a yam is. Yeah, that's it. Sweet potatoes mashed and then you put
Starting point is 00:04:41 mini marshmallows on the top, put them in the oven and they come out all crispy. And it sounds gross. It's next level delicious's very sweet you would love it yeah but it's then the sweet with like the savory of the gravy and like the i can't describe it's delicious okay what other things do you have with thanksgiving just a completely normal roast is what we normally do but then we just did the yams with it so your family celebrates now consistently thanks well my mum quite likes it now because it means, because if we don't spend Christmas with the rest of the family in the UK, because we normally are skiing for it,
Starting point is 00:05:11 so she then uses that as an excuse. It's quite a nice thing to do, really. We must do something. Friendsgiving. Why don't we do Toby Carby part one? Friendsgiving. What we're doing, this is Friendsgiving now, hun. We should have had a mini rose.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Oh! A mini rose with some pieces of pumpkin. I should have bought you some yams. Yeah, maybe you make me some yams. Maybe I'll make you some yams. I would love that. With purple sweet potatoes so we live forever.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yes. And the sugar just is cancelled out by the purple. Yeah, exactly. So what do you think, Melissa, makes a good friend? Oh, yeah, we're going to go through some questions.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yes. Keezy. Someone that's honest with you. that makes you laugh yeah someone that you can trust someone that you can also sit in silence with i think is heavily important me that's up there with one of the most important hate it when you have to try and think of things and you're like oh i feel awkward next you have to talk yeah but that's like not really a good friend when you feel awkward around someone is it? Exactly so it makes a good friend by being like you can just sit in silence and be comfortable with them. What do you think the best quality in each other? I'll ask you this. Okay fine. What do
Starting point is 00:06:16 you think the best quality in each other is? Well I say what my best quality is too. Yeah. Okay I think you can sit in silence with me. Yeah. We don't but I could. I think you can sit in silence with me. Yeah. We don't, but I could. I think I could sit in silence with you. That's one of your best qualities. But also,
Starting point is 00:06:33 we, we, you're on. I can sit in silence with you. Okay, anyway, we,
Starting point is 00:06:39 it's incredibly honest. Yeah, we're always very honest with each other about stuff. Yeah. And we're always very complimentary. I feel like we bring each other up a lot, which is lovely. And we laugh every time we're always very honest with each other about stuff yeah and we're always very complimentary i feel like we bring each other up a lot which is lovely and we laugh every time we're on phone even when we say bye we're like bye haha yeah it's pretty weird it's just good vibes
Starting point is 00:06:53 it's good vibes around okay and what's the worst oh i don't know what your worst is you clearly know what mine is oh no. No, what is it? That when we try and do a double date, Jamie's always like double books or something and it's really fucking annoying. That's not really Sophie's direct. That's very annoying. It's not her, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:14 You're an extension of your other half, so it's your problem, so. Surely mine is that I like start a conversation and then I'm like, but I do the same thing. So it's like quite easy for my mind to follow that. I'll come back to you when you next piss me off. Yeah, I won't.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Okay. Is it always sisters before misters? Depends. Obviously, you're married now. I wouldn't cancel a plan that I'd made with Toby to like be with you. No, I almost think the better friends you are, like the more you can understand. I'd be like, no, I need to be. And you would want me to flourish my relationship.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, yeah. I do feel like maybe a thing of the past would be like, you're not going to go for a guy. And when you're at school, I'm not going to go for this guy that you dated two days ago. I'm going to put my friendship with you first. Okay. In that respect, yes. Have you ever lied to one another to get them, for one another to get in a lot of trouble?
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yes. Loads of times. You've done that loads of times. Also, standing back to the Vade and Chelsea days, Christ alive. Oh, all the time. That's just a web of lies. We would both just sit there in silence
Starting point is 00:08:20 knowing exactly what we've done. Me and Sophie were probably one of the only two cast members that wouldn't fuck each other over. So we would know everything in life for each other about so much. To the producers, everyone took it to the grave. No one, no one in the cast. It was all corrupt. It was corrupt, but we stayed loyal through it all.
Starting point is 00:08:37 We did stay loyal. Melissa knew pretty much from the beginning when I was with Jamie. I knew everything was kind of going. I told you without telling you. I couldn't hold it in. Yeah, I know. And also, like, we went out together. And you guys were like, you're right. I knew, that was probably going on. I told you without telling you. I couldn't hold it in. And also like we went out together and you guys were like,
Starting point is 00:08:47 I knew, but like obviously we didn't know. So then my producer's like cornering you and I'd be like, you have to be honest. And I was like, guys,
Starting point is 00:08:53 there's nothing to tell. Oh my gosh, yeah, that night we went to Chicama. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we were like kissing,
Starting point is 00:08:58 kissing, kissing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you told me something in the loo and then you were like,
Starting point is 00:09:02 but not yet. Like you looked at me like, like this. Yeah, I think I was I was like no but the last time it happened in Cape Town when I came back and you like and I said I kept dropping hints like I was telling you in a riddle plainly obvious and you were like what the fuck's going on I was like but then I know it was like you were telling me but it was all in code have you ever had difficulties making friends? I feel like also we've had the same friends forever. No, I actually have. What?
Starting point is 00:09:31 I grew up with a holiday home in Spain and I used to go there every summer and they all spoke Spanish and I thought they were so cool. And I just really wanted to be involved. She was a wannabe Spanish girl. Yeah. And I just was like the English giri they used to call me. And I didn't. And they called me sofa. I know.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And I really struggled to make friends with them. I wheezed. I really persisted. I wheezed my way in. But like, I just wanted to be them and be friends with them. And I just wasn't. Okay, so that's good that you know what that's like. So how was that?
Starting point is 00:10:01 How did that feel for you? It was horrible, but also quite exciting. It was like a mission. When I first joined Made in Chelsea, that was like going into a lion's den of like cool older people. Oh, yeah, yeah, me too. It was quite cliquey. But then Sophie was like the only person that was nice to me
Starting point is 00:10:15 and then we became best friends. Me too. I wasn't friends with anyone on Chelsea until Croatia, really. Yeah. Again, it's just one of those things that you sort of just get thrown into the lion's den that was quite scary what's the easiest way to make friends i would just be yourself it's really hard not try too hard but then also like put the effort in it's difficult there's nothing worse
Starting point is 00:10:36 than someone that's trying too hard to like then you also you just then you don't want to look you don't want to not try and then you know you have to make the effort but you don't want to try too hard where it's like do do you know what I mean? I think you've got to, like, not emotionally, but you have to have a gut feeling of who actually will be your friend. Like, I knew in Chelsea you were going to be my friend. Like, we were going to be real friends. Yeah. So that was easy for me.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And once I was, we were friends, then I sort of had the confidence to be friends with other people. But I don't think if you I think you know if you're gonna actually have like a really good friendship with somebody yeah I think that's the person you can be really open with and like yeah once you've got one that you get on well with then it normally just stems from there slowly then you sort of work your way into other friendship groups and like meet other people and it's quite nice yeah but like you have to have that breakthrough yeah you do I think just be yourself and try and be happy. Yeah, and also don't do what I tried to do
Starting point is 00:11:31 when I wanted to be friends with those Spanish people. Don't try and be them. I was like, oh my God, that's so cool. I've got to be them. Honestly, I'm trying to think of what they used to do. Everything they used to wear. They were so like, I just try to be them like just be yourself
Starting point is 00:11:47 just be yourself I also think sometimes you'll get as you say you'll get a good energy from someone if they're a nice person
Starting point is 00:11:53 or not and they'll like make an effort to speak to you like right yeah if you have good people so if the people
Starting point is 00:12:00 don't want to be friends with you that's on them and then they're probably not nice people but you'll hopefully it was like not so hard to make friends like humans want to be friends with you, that's on them. And then they're probably not nice people. But you'll hopefully, it was like not so hard to make friends.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Like humans want to be nice to one another normally, you know? Yeah. And I will say there's something about like, like I'm 29 now. There's something about now. I will say, I think it is like not a rite of passage. And it kind of, being young is amazing and it's the funnest time. But it also kind of sucks because you don't know who you are. Yeah yeah so trying to be friends with people is really hard when you don't even know who you are or what you want to do and I feel like suddenly I know everyone says it yap yap yap
Starting point is 00:12:34 when you're in your 30s that you suddenly don't give a fuck what anyone thinks yeah like I really do feel like I'm coming into that age now but before it's like oh I've got to be cool or I've got to be totally and I also feel like probably now you're married you probably feel a bit more like that too a bit more comfortable in your own skin like I don't care what other people think kind of thing yeah because you're a bit you're just a bit more settled but I do think it's something that comes with age too and unfortunately it's kind of something everyone goes through because you just don't know yourself until you're completely I feel like it's a rite of passage that we will have to and then that forms us when we're older and that's why we just become better people yeah touch wood okay dilemma one recently i was a bridesmaid for
Starting point is 00:13:18 one of my best friend's weddings let's call her sarah sarah and i have been best friends for well over 10 years and we have been through some really tough times. She was my bridesmaid a couple of years back when I got married also. Lovely. When I became a bridesmaid I was her closest friend but during the lead up to the wedding especially the end things changed. I begun to distance myself because I didn't like the person Sarah was becoming. She was particularly particular about everything and she became mean. For example, when another bridesmaid got pregnant, she said to me, how annoying. Couldn't she wait? Now she's going to stand out in the photos.
Starting point is 00:13:52 No, that's awful. She even told her sister, who was already extremely insecure about her weight, that she's the reason she cannot find a bridesmaid dress and she needs to lose weight for her wedding. Savage. It actually can't.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Sarah wanted everything to be perfect, even at the expense of others. My frustration grew towards the last month. Sarah planned this extravagant weekend which cost us all a fortune. I opened up to her at the beginning to tell her I couldn't afford it, but it didn't seem to bother her. I still had to find a way to pay. What the fuck, Sarah? With four weeks to go at the beginning to tell her I couldn't afford it but didn't it didn't seem to bother her I still had to find a way to pay the fuck Sarah with four weeks to go to the wedding Sarah hadn't
Starting point is 00:14:29 found bridesmaid dresses yet I decided to send her to the shop my sister who was also getting married got her bridesmaid dresses from I told Sarah which dresses my sister had bought so she knew how to stay clear before you knew it she's gone and chosen the exact same dresses for her wedding no without even asking if it was okay with my sister, who was also going to be attending Sarah's wedding. Sarah! What the F? No, no.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I'm pissed. I stayed quiet because Sarah was stressed and I didn't want to add to that, but I was upset. When we get to the wedding rehearsals, I am all of a sudden moved from second bridesmaids to fourth for the ceremony walk-in i asked her if something was wrong and her response was i just want everyone to have a turn being close to me you'll get your turn at the reception wait is she lost her heart we get into the wedding night i come and sit down at the reception and find i've moved been moved
Starting point is 00:15:20 again oh now usually i wouldn't care but at this point I wanted to cry and go home because I only ever tried to do the right thing by her but she was just being so mean. My husband thinks I've outgrown this friendship anyway and told me that Sarah's not a friend
Starting point is 00:15:32 he wants me to have with how she talks and treats her friends. I agree. But we have been friends for so long and I feel maybe the wedding just got to her
Starting point is 00:15:41 and she was caught up in it all. Do I approach her and tell her what's wrong or do I focus on more positive things and change in my life and cut her out I think you have to cut her out necessarily I would approach her I do think wedding sends you things definitely but like being super mean to your bridesmaids and doing stuff really not nice but I do think you why not what what what would be the point in not telling her sure a you'd be helping her b give a chance to the friendship c give give give someone the opportunity to see explain themselves as well
Starting point is 00:16:12 like maybe she'll just be like i just don't like know what i was doing or saying like i just want it all to be so perfect and obviously that doesn't matter but i think you don't have to i don't also don't think you necessarily do have to say anything like you could just sort of take a rough step back and just wait for her to come to you and if she's like look is there anything wrong or then you can be like look no I obviously still want to be friends with you but I was just a bit upset with the way things went at the wedding but like obviously I love you so much and see if she then opens up or you just hope that things have changed after the wedding and then she'll just go back to being the normal her yeah because now there's no wedding there's no stress and you might just be like oh sick that
Starting point is 00:16:48 now that's over there's nothing for us to worry about yeah but I also do think you might hold resentment if you don't open up about it just maybe slightly like I yeah maybe I would give it some time and then maybe be like just by the way this upset me it's yeah moving me down the slips up way back into the friendship you might be like hold a bit of like yeah well we need to discuss this like that's not okay you've really upset me at the wedding blah blah blah yeah fair but I don't think you have to cut her out I think that's probably a bit extreme but sometimes I think if you've been friends for a really really really really long time sometimes people do grow apart and that's fine but I think in this scenario
Starting point is 00:17:22 continues behaving this way yeah you might have to cut her out because that's not serving you and that's just not positive let's just see how it goes i think this is one big thing that she's had to do and plan the choosing of the bridesmaids dress annoys me how moving her best friend away is so mean it's saying it pisses me off don't get me wrong i'm angry for you, don't worry, you'll get time with me at the reception. Sorry, I am the princess. You'll get time. Your time will come. Fuck me.
Starting point is 00:17:53 If you said that to me at your wedding. You would literally sneak out. I would lose my shit. I'd be like, who the fuck do you think you are? Your time will come. It's outrageous. It's outrageous. It's outrageous.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I feel the frustration because it's just like, get off your high horse. But now the wedding's over. She can't be doing that. When it's someone's wedding, you can't really say something. I know, you just have to swallow. So true. I don't even think, when we walked down the aisle, I don't think Sophie didn't have anything to do with it. She was just like, I'm just going at the back
Starting point is 00:18:23 and all I need is George to carry my dress. The wedding planners sorted it out where we would go, oh, they did it by height. Oh, yeah. Didn't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like the two short ones at the front.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's why me and Emily were the first to go because we were the shorter. It went by height. Who was with Izzy then? Bella? I think so. And Chrissy and Emily were together. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah, it was all by height. And then George going, I don't know why, but the photos of her holding my belt made me cry. And her dress was so long as well because she forgot to have it taken up. So she had to hold up her own dress.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And yours? Sweet. Tactics. It's good tactics that she had there, actually. Right, dilemma two. My dilemma is that my best friend of almost 20, wow, 20 has never asked me questions
Starting point is 00:18:59 about myself anymore. I have called this girl my best friend since we were five years old and we're now 24. That's super cute. However, for the last four years, we have slowly drifted and not caught up as much. She moved away, I have a partner and a really hectic job. And I admit I have been avoiding catching up with her
Starting point is 00:19:16 because all she does is talk about herself. I actually do have one friend like this. I don't think I'm a boring person. I have stuff going on and I run my own business. I go traveling with my partner and all the usual family drama to chat about. But I just feel she doesn't care what's happening in my life and she just wants to gloat about her life and work.
Starting point is 00:19:31 We had dinner and I began to see how long it would take. It's when you notice it, you can't unnotice it. I began to see how long it would take for her to ask me something. I don't know if I message her and tell her that she doesn't seem very interested in my life because she doesn't actually ask me any questions. But I'm a bit worried about cutting her off as I don't have
Starting point is 00:19:47 loads of friends any advice would be appreciated thanks girls that's really tricky because I have some friends who don't ask me anything but I'm not bothered about it because I actually sometimes no they bet they do well I bet they do yeah I actually can't think of anyone I know who doesn't ask me anything. I only have one person I know that likes, and it's so plainly no. Not even like, how was your weekend? Like, what did you do last night? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I actually don't have anyone in my life that doesn't ask me anything.
Starting point is 00:20:15 But I'm thinking I wouldn't mind, but that also would annoy me if I knew. But regardless, it's rude, right? This is fucking rude. And when you notice something you can't notice and they're just non-stop talking about themselves i would i would just it's really bad madness at the end of the day it's just rude really it's really rude it's so how can you say that to someone it's really awkward i just probably wouldn't i would actually just probably have to take a step back i just i don't think it's something like you're not going to feel bad
Starting point is 00:20:43 about it because you're still her friend and nothing big's happened and you're i wouldn't like cut her out but i just personally wouldn't enjoy those times there's no point in meeting up with people like you've got to feel a bit drained you leave your time like your time's valuable precious yeah totally and like also your energy like that would just put me in a bad mood you don't want to feel drained it is draining when people, oh my God, I'm really worried. You're literally sitting up. Do I ask you that?
Starting point is 00:21:08 You are sending questions. Okay, good. I'm really freaking out now. I'm honestly having a hard time. Oh, this is what you could do. This is what you could do. This is what you do. I was like.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Work on your question. You could meet up, when you next see her, you could sit down and be like, oh my God, I've had like the worst day, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, rant, rant, rant. And then you could be like, oh my God, I saw, you you know emily the other day she didn't ask me any fucking questions
Starting point is 00:21:29 and actually really pissed me off then it will prompt her yeah like how it's just done with me to be like oh shit i don't ask questions to be like it was just it's just really rude every time i see her you can just tell a white line make up a person every time i see her she never asks any questions and it's just really it's just really bad social skills and like you know and then it will hopefully if that doesn't do it then i don't know what will and you might have to maybe take a slight step back maybe like refer to your mom rather than a friend she don't want to have being like maybe like a mom's friend or something be like oh my god my mom's friend was around and my mom's just had enough because she's so draining
Starting point is 00:22:03 and i've noticed it too she's around then it's nothing that will get back to being like oh I know that friend of hers and then she knows something so I think that's a good way of doing it it's really hard because I honestly am having the fear of death I don't know you're so fine yeah but that is quite hard we ask each other too many questions we're like I want to know every detail of your day tomorrow and what did you do today like it's too much yeah we do I'm not happy until I know everything you've got planned for yes today or do you know what I mean like I need to know I need to know everything we're too nosy not to ask questions that's our problem I sort of like get that vibe that from you because I get nothing from Jamie and I can't be like so what did you
Starting point is 00:22:41 eat today and he'll be like don't know I don't think I've eaten anything I'm like well you have because you wouldn't be standing if you haven't I'm like what was for lunch he's like I don't know yeah I know and then I see him like
Starting point is 00:22:53 do something and I'm like well you didn't tell me you did that he's like oh sorry I forgot I'm like but how it's just the lack of detail
Starting point is 00:23:01 yeah like we had this really fun birthday party at the weekend and I left quite, like I left at six, he got home at like 12. I was like, details, everything. He was like, is that it? I need gossip from stuff to finish. Yeah, I need to know what conversations happened.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I wanted to know like where people sat. I want to know, did people order food at a certain point in the evening? Did someone get really drunk did someone say something a bit silly yeah what music was playing I just knew
Starting point is 00:23:28 yeah I'm gonna say I'm gonna have to find someone else like to give me the details yeah you do there's surely some more people in there
Starting point is 00:23:34 that you can get inside from yeah that's what I just need to know I can't do things without me because I get
Starting point is 00:23:38 nothing back I get nothing in return sometimes there's huge things like huge things Toby will tell me three weeks afterwards and i'm like what how did you leave that information out and then one of toby's really good friends who i'm like kind of friends with now i say quite close with this like dating and
Starting point is 00:23:56 whatever and like and like he'll like tell me himself but sometimes toby will like relay the story to me and i'm like but how did it get to that point like what did she then answer back to him when he said that he's like i don't know I'm like you don't ask the right fucking question so then I end up calling the phone like I need to know probably everything just because it bothers me that I don't I've got half the story can't sleep at night no I feel like us girls are really detailed actually like I'm thinking of all of my friends yeah like I know detail I know that when they breathed in between sentences and like the eye contact
Starting point is 00:24:27 where it was during that conversation yeah but no boys they were boys you're so boring god give us what we want
Starting point is 00:24:34 we read everything about everyone but that's maybe why also boys are maybe just a bit more like they just don't care they just don't care maybe we're really nosy
Starting point is 00:24:43 but I'm sure all girls are the same we're nosy parkers. I just like a proper story to be told in a proper way. I totally agree. It's not too much hassle. Right, I've got a dilemma through. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Hey, Sophie and Melissa. I have had a big drama, which I need your help with. I'm part of a close group of girls. We met at uni, holiday together and despite not all living in the same place we still chat every day and manage to meet up a lot too.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Gorgeous. That's lovely. I live in Manchester and one of the girls who I'm less close with, let's call her Grace, said that she was moving to Manchester too.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I'd had some issues with previous flatmates so I said that we should live together. With my job I would get a pretty big discount on some clothes as well as getting some freebies
Starting point is 00:25:24 from the office too lovely when we would go out Grace would often ask to borrow things and I'd obviously say yes as I would borrow some of her clothes too
Starting point is 00:25:33 uh oh I know this is going but more often than not Grace would misplace things in the flat and she would give them back to me when she found them
Starting point is 00:25:39 over the past year of living with her she's lost loads of my clothes which I was already pissed off about. How do you lose clothes if you're living in the same house? How do they go missing?
Starting point is 00:25:47 I don't get that. Yeah, that's weird. Although it's quite me. I really just got really angry then. I've also lost the strap of my bags and I'm the only one who lives in my house. So that's just stupid. But I became furious when one of my best friends sent me a link to Grace's seat do you remember
Starting point is 00:26:05 when I lost your Abercrombie and Fitz shorts that's what I'm thinking of in Croatia no it wasn't in Croatia hun where was it it was Sri Lanka oh my god
Starting point is 00:26:13 you were so it was the first day we got there she put them on and then for the rest of the day I had no shorts for fuck's sake it was the first day
Starting point is 00:26:21 but I that's why I'm feeling for Grace because I the fear I was like you know why it's because we lost them somewhere in the fear, I was like. You know why? It's because we lost them somewhere in the resort.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It wasn't like you lost them in your room. Yeah. Every day. I was like, fucking, I don't have anything to wear. I kept saying,
Starting point is 00:26:33 I know where they are. I know where they are. I didn't. Anyway. Should really get you another pair. But I became furious when one of my best friends sent me a link
Starting point is 00:26:41 to Grace's secret spicy Instagram profile where she was modelling my clothes and selling them on Depop. You're freaking killing me. Did you know this? I think it was you. Well, I slightly went ahead, sorry. I saw selling them on Depop in caps.
Starting point is 00:26:54 She doesn't know that we found the profile, but I feel so hurt every time I have to pretend to be friending with her. That's fucking shit. That's stealing. No, no. I stopped letting her borrow my clothes and I've already started making plans to move out but I'm petty for wanting to get back at her
Starting point is 00:27:07 I don't want to break up our friendship group but I don't want Grace in my life anymore you must bring it up tell the other girls in the friendship group for a start
Starting point is 00:27:14 and you absolutely can because it's all over the internet and all your friends have seen it and shown it to you be like I'm really upset what do I do and then just have a word with her
Starting point is 00:27:22 be like I am so I'd be like you need to move out. It just makes me feel so like violated almost that you've been like borrowing my clothes and selling them. No, what the fuck? I'm furious. There needs to be an enormous apology.
Starting point is 00:27:35 She needs to give you all the money from all the money that she's made from selling your clothes. It's bizarre. But then also like trying to be sympathetic. There may be something deeper like maybe she's having some financial issues and she can't pay the rent or something and she's like i don't know but that there's no excuse absolutely not absolutely not but i'm like
Starting point is 00:27:54 i'm just trying to understand why she would do that to a friend but sometimes people are bad you know it's also just like so oh that's actually giving me goosebumps yeah me too i really hate stuff like this it just like imagine if you found out someone was doing that imagine if i was doing that to you no it's so violating and she's willingly being like yeah you can wear my top well sorry i've lost it imagine you just go on depop and you find those abacompy shorts and me ordering them i think we can let the £20 shorts slide. I'd be worried for you if you were trying to like, if you stole them,
Starting point is 00:28:28 dissolve them. I'm really baffled. That is awful. I'm really upset for you. I'm really sorry. I personally would cut that. I couldn't forget that. Oh my God, I have a confession.
Starting point is 00:28:39 What? What? What? Okay, right. A few years ago, it was my birthday. I was newly dating Toby and you lent me
Starting point is 00:28:46 like a cardigan a cardigan a cardigan yeah that's just it that cardigan from Urban Outfitters it wasn't very nice
Starting point is 00:28:53 I threw it away the other day in a wardrobe I was still in my wardrobe I know I know exactly in a e-bloggers bag and I was like
Starting point is 00:29:01 she won't want that back I've never worn it she's not gonna wear it and she doesn't even know it's missing oh my god I can't even think that's pushing three years ago now I think I know exactly which one bit woolly yeah yeah yeah really bobbly not nice bobbly cropped so yeah cropped but oversized shoulders yeah yeah yeah you know I used to get a lot of compliments when I wore that no I wouldn't wear. No, I wouldn't wear that now. Do you know though, I really was looking for a black cardigan the other day and I honestly in my mind thought,
Starting point is 00:29:28 sure I had one. I don't know. I have no black clothes anymore. Oh my God. Oh the thee. You've lent someone a really nice denim jacket and you've never got it back. That really upsets me.
Starting point is 00:29:38 That, because that was a one-off. It was a one-off like, it was almost like an artist had like drawn on this denim jacket. It was fucking cool. Yeah. Was it like from japan or something it was from a japanese brand and they the artist like he did one per item and i got it and it was not cheap that was one of my first like big items i bought i i equally shared as much love for even though it wasn't mine i think i got to borrow every now and then and now it's fucking gone because you lent it to the wrong person let that be a lesson
Starting point is 00:30:06 to you guys don't lend your clothes out in my mind I still think she must have it because I'm like where else is it unless you sold it
Starting point is 00:30:13 but she might have lost it she would never have sold it she might have lost I'd rather have to have it still and then maybe one day I'll get it back Jesus it's so annoying
Starting point is 00:30:22 so upsetting right I think karma will get you in the bum if you try and get back to her. So be the bigger person, get good karma, and unfortunately karma will get her.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah. What's it called? Too wrong, so make it right. Make it right, but there's another saying along those lines. What the hell is it? I think maybe that is just it, the saying. I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:30:43 But yeah, I think we've got to take the mature route but if I was you I think the mature route would be to like confront her and be like I need
Starting point is 00:30:48 I actually need you need to pay me the money from the clothes that you've made off of the money the profit that you've made for a start and if you still have the clothes
Starting point is 00:30:59 give them back I agree or you could be the one to buy them all on Depop and then walk in and then walk in and then walk in yeah and be like
Starting point is 00:31:06 I'm really upset I'd walk in on them that I've had to buy my own clothes back and I expect you to refund me all the money for it shit that's so good
Starting point is 00:31:15 and that's that is logistically right because she should be getting her clothes back it's so it's beyond fucked up I invite every single item put the address
Starting point is 00:31:24 as your address no don't so she'll know yeah but she'll know anyway and she'll be like imagine the stomach drop out of her arsehole when she sees that
Starting point is 00:31:33 it's she's got to send it back she'll know busted and then be sat in there drinking coffee I know turn around
Starting point is 00:31:41 on the like swively chair I know yeah what's that thing What's that thing? What's that thing? Oh! Just when she's going to get her coffee
Starting point is 00:31:49 Just put a post-it note on the thing I know Damn, Wigget! Or you could really freak her out Or you could Buy the exact same jumper and then wear it Or like top and then wear it And she'll be like
Starting point is 00:32:01 What the fuck? Or you steal it back from her room. Fucking go and steal them back. Just go steal them back so then someone else will buy them from Depop and she'll be like, I don't know where they've gone. And you'll be,
Starting point is 00:32:12 I don't wear them. And she'll then, and then you just go, I went into your room and got all my clothes back. Why? Why do you need them? They're mine.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I'm not going to lie. And then she'll be like, but I've sold them. Yeah. Yeah. So many options. I also feel like this is fully breaking the law. Like you could genuinely report her to the police.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Maybe a step too far, but like, depending on how far you want to take the matter. I'd have some fun with it first. And I don't think karma's going to get you for that because you're not like stooping to her level. You're just actually redeeming what is yours. Yeah, taking back what's rightfully yours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Your hard-earned fucking money. I think the safest option to do would be to go into her room and get her stuff. Also, this stuff is going to be nice design shit. Yeah, because why else is she selling it? It's so rogue. Right, moving on, moving on, moving on to friendship story time. I'm loving these friendship themed things.
Starting point is 00:33:10 So here's a bit of backstory. I've been in a happy relationship for four years with my boyfriend and we moved in together three years ago during lockdown. His best friend moved in with us about a year ago due to having nowhere to live. So the other day I was in the shower and the doorbell rang. I thought it was my boyfriend and he forgot his key. So I jumped out the shower and threw on a small dressing gown I opened the door and ran back up the stairs not checking who it was how stupid I didn't even think it could be anyone else as I got up to the top of stairs I looked he was doing a quick look in and then looked away my boyfriend's best friend and also housemate caught a half-shaved vagina as I was running up the stairs. Oh, I'm absolutely...
Starting point is 00:33:48 Oh, I see. So he looked in and looked away. No, no, sweet boy. Oh, no. My question is, do I love and die my boyfriend or do I just leave it as if it never... It's also half-shaved. No, it's the boy. I don't know why that's so adorable that he was like,
Starting point is 00:34:02 Oh, I didn't see anything. Oh, my God. It's also her boyfriend's best friend and the housemate. I don't know why that's so adorable that he was like, guy, I didn't see anything. Oh my God. It's also her boyfriend's best friend and the housemate. I would tell him. I think it's lols. I don't know. But his...
Starting point is 00:34:12 Sorry, the half shave would kill me. Oh my God. So do I laugh it off and tell my boyfriend and leave it as it is as it never happened? But to be fair,
Starting point is 00:34:18 it's too funny not to tell him. That's the advice. Definitely tell him. Definitely tell him and tell the friend. Be like the friend. Be like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:34:24 so sorry about that. Wait, did she have like a razor in her hand like she was mid-shading got no idea that's so funny so this sort of thing we would do that is checked open the door that is so funny and the and the friend looking and then looking away it's just what boys do i've had this so many times and they place and they panic in the grain i don't really give a fuck i've just had it and i'm like no like a girl don't really give a fuck I've just had it and I'm like no like a girl wouldn't I'd be like
Starting point is 00:34:47 what the hell if a boy opened the door with his willy out oh my god yeah can you imagine yeah we'd be like I wouldn't be able to I would literally
Starting point is 00:34:54 I'd be pissing myself laughing but a boy like so politely looks away oh my god bless him as if he's never seen it it's funnier to bring it up handy pay I mean that's
Starting point is 00:35:03 similar sort of thing Toby's brother see me completely butt naked the first time i went to family house terrible business that's that is like oh it's so good it's so good right hi lovelies one of your aussie fans here i just wanted to write in about how my best friendships always seem to start with not liking the other at all when you first meet interesting my best friend who i met at school was stuck together for most of our classes in year nine i couldn't stand her but for some reason by the end of that the year she had stuck and we were suddenly in separate three years out of school and we are just as close's gorgeous. That's gorgeous but quite peculiar. Really quite peculiar
Starting point is 00:35:45 but I think that's probably like initial. Sometimes first impressions are not good. It's as simple as that. I don't really think I've ever had like utter beef with someone
Starting point is 00:35:56 like at school where I just didn't like. My school was very friendly. Like everyone kind of got on. It wasn't a bitchy school. Luckily, I'm very lucky. But the older people in my school were not nice oh yeah mine was scary serious hierarchy Ruby when I first
Starting point is 00:36:11 met her I thought that she really hated me I met her at someone's wedding and I felt like she was really sort of standoffish with me and then the next time I saw her I was like oh my god we're best friends I think you told me that yeah I was like I met Ruby I was like I don't think she's that much of a fan I was like she didn't seem that friendly and the next time I saw her I was like oh my god we're best friends I think you told me that yeah I was like I met Ruby I was like I don't think she's that much of a fan I was like she didn't seem that friendly and the next time I saw her she was just like the best girl ever but some people can have a bit of a guard up and then come across in a certain type of way yeah I think maybe I have that quite a lot when I meet people not I hope I don't know you're so friendly you're joking no but not me but maybe I find other people have a guard up I definitely do have friends that if I've been like oh scary and then two times a day I'm like oh my god I
Starting point is 00:36:50 freaking love them totally it's just like people have their guard up you gotta like that's just just something that people and also it can come from a place of being like not it might not be that confident or like them being like conscious of everything they're saying because they're like not nervous but they're like aware of the fact
Starting point is 00:37:07 that you don't know them and then that's them coming across as quite stiff which they can come across quite rude totally tiny questions I love these
Starting point is 00:37:18 okay which celebrity would you like to be friends with and why oh I can tell you Jennifer Anderson or Reese Witherspoon because they look like
Starting point is 00:37:24 good time gals they do look like good time gals they do like good they look like i feel like reese would be our best mate totally and i also would love meryl streep to just be like in my life it's some same but like i'm not sure me and how would be calling each other every day to tell each other what we're doing no neither but i wouldn't with jenna Jenna. I would think of Jenna as like a fun aunt. Okay, Rhys, I kind of think I would. Okay, friends, Kylie Jenner, off.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Oh no, I think I'm going to go. I think she looks jokes. Maybe Hailey Bieber. I know she's a bit boring, but I just kind of want to see like what they do every day from a nosy perspective.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I would love to be her friend. Of course, from a nosy, but I do think she seems really, really nice. I think she's got, like everyone says that she's so lovely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Even though she can be a bit... Yeah. Okay, fine. We'll go with Hayley Beale. Beeps. No, wait, there's someone really great that's really funny. We're literally forgetting about them. Who the fuck is it? Al Pacino.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Okay. Or Morgan Freeman. Okay, yeah, you've always loved Morgan Freeman. I don't know. I've always... Oh, Robert De Niro. Oh, yeah, you've always loved Morgan Freeman. I don't know. I've always... Oh, Robert De Niro. Oh, yeah, he'd be a legend. He would be sick.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Oh, Brad Pitt, obviously, just because I'd literally lick his drink when he left the room. You changed the sentence as it was coming out. Lick his drink as he left the room. Or VB. Yeah, Victoria Beckham, not so much David VB yeah Victoria Beckham not so much David
Starting point is 00:38:45 yeah Victoria Beckham yeah oh my god Eve Longoria obviously oh my god how did you leave that out
Starting point is 00:38:52 yeah she's my numeral honestly that would be really really good right maybe we leave it there yeah we leave it there
Starting point is 00:38:59 but I've got that little present oh my god I'm really judging this because I haven't got you anything to give back no I've got us matching ons
Starting point is 00:39:04 this is this is for friendsgiving and for just our friendship. Oh, my God, you sweet angel. And we have to wear them all the time. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. No, you sweet angel. Where did you
Starting point is 00:39:25 find this no no Melissa has got open hearts broken I know and then I'm connected to you
Starting point is 00:39:32 sweet we can connect them together oh my god oh my god why would that can someone actually please tell me
Starting point is 00:39:40 where the fuck you found me Claire's in Cedric why are you gonna find them oh my god is it actually Claire's in Cedric
Starting point is 00:39:44 yes oh my god this is really actually Claire's accessories? Yes. Oh my God, this is really nostalgic for me. I know, so nostalgic. They were the best thing ever. Stop. Well, thank you so much for the thoughtful gift. Lil' sister. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:59 What? Is that what it says? Hi. Wait, can we come and? I can't. What does yours say? Big sis. No, it's too funny. So for anyone who is listening and not watching,
Starting point is 00:40:25 I have got Melissa's friendship necklace from Classic Zazaries and it says big sis open like a half of the heart and the other half of the heart little sis and it's fluorescent every colour of the rainbow and it's like one of those
Starting point is 00:40:33 like stretchy like yeah what they choker they're called a choker yeah the stretchy choker thing and then it's yeah it's special it's special
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