Wednesdays - 9: My BFF is SELLING my clothes on DEPOP
Episode Date: November 22, 2023It’s friends-giving this week tinies so we chat all things friendship & Sophie gives Melissa a very special gift. We chat sisters before misters, gut feelings about potential friends and ho...w to meet new people.Plus, we read some of your dilemmas include a BRIDEZILLA from hell and cutting off an unhealthy friendship. Instagram / TikTok / YouTube: @wednesdayspodcastEmail: wednesdays@jampotproductions.co.uk-Credits:Podcast Producer & Editor: @kat.milsomAdditional Producer: @jemimarathboneVideographer: @jamierg99Social Media: @thechampagencyAssistant Producer: @maiaadelia.docs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Melissa are you a doctor uh I want to be but I'm not I'm not a doctor either and we're not
psychologists and we're not experts at anything in fact we just chatted all the shit so and we
love giving you guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as
gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody, please seek professional help.
This is for nipples.
And it's, oh my god, no, the funniest
thing. So Zara, my manager, was at my house.
Yeah. She's pregnant, so
she kept pointing at this and
I had a videographer at my house too
and she was like, hide this. And I was like,
why? It's nipple cream.
Like,
you can borrow some if you want.
I thought she was
pregnant and wanting it.
She thought it was
Jamie's pearls cream
and she was like,
why do you have it out on display?
What is that pearls cream called?
It's called something.
Something similar to homeoplasmy.
Oh my God,
what is it called?
Why do these boys
like,
so much?
Like,
just relax.
Apparently it's because
people,
blokes, sit on the loo for like 25 minutes on their phones. 100%. That's all just relax. Apparently, it's because people, blokes,
sit on the loo for like 25 minutes on their phones.
100%.
That's all it is.
Yeah, Jamie's an outlier.
How men's...
What?
I thought that pause was from squeezing your butt so much.
So did I.
Or cycling, people say.
And when you're pregnant, you get it.
Why do we get it when we're pregnant?
That's a random...
For fuck's sake, we get enough when we're pregnant.
Yeah, I know.
We pass that on.
Mental, mental, mental.
No, what I get when I'm cycling, not like ever cycle.
When have you ever, ever, what, a Boris bike like twice a year?
No, no, when I was like younger and we would go on family trips.
Oh my God.
Okay.
Quite the tour de France over here, yeah.
Quite, this honestly might have happened once in my entire life.
But the bruising on my vagina is next to none.
No, but do you know what I mean?
I don't think I've cycled enough
to get a serious bruise on my vagina.
My sister can't ride a bike.
Fools are terrified of this.
Really?
It's quite the skill, running a bike.
It's very scary.
I really credit where credit's due
to people who ride a Boris bike
because I'd be so scared in London.
I get on the back of Toby's line bike
so he'll cycle
on his like
stand up
and I sit on the bike
with my legs out to the side
when we're drunk
we always go home like that
if we can't get on the scooter.
How's it?
It's so fucking dangerous
don't ask me.
And he's always
and I'm always like
freaking out
and he's like
shut up just get on
and he's just like
so fam
and I'm like okay.
And then why do you
have your legs up
for car car fam?
Boo!
Chop those little titsies off. We don't know it's like just going up basically Portobello or something like it okay. And then why do you have your legs up? A car comes round, boof, chop those little titsies off.
We don't, no, no.
It's like just going up basically Portobello or something.
Like it's not anything crazy.
Do you remember,
oh no, you weren't there when we had filmed,
we filmed in South Africa,
oh, Buenos Aires.
No, I wasn't there for either of those.
And we did,
that was the first time I went on a line bike.
They weren't in England at this point.
Oh my God.
And we would bomb around Buenos Aires.
You mean to see a scooter?
It was a scooter, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So quite different, but still. So fun, those were the days. Scooters are great. point and we would bomb around when I saw a scooter it was a scooter yeah yeah yeah different
but still so fun those were the days scooters are great we did a half an hour journey two of us on
a scooter the other day but all on like the back streets what you're not no I really got confused
you and I did we you would have believed me if I could convince you that I would have my my short
term memory like yeah me too it's so shocking I don't know what we're doing
we need to get
why am I crying as well
you're not that funny right now
why am I crying
not sure maybe it's
air con in the room
it's not that cold in here
though is it
so anything is quite warm
in here
right anyway
right okay
it's friendsgiving
I can't wait
also we booked in our
Christmas special
what was the other
shop talking
you are loving this
Christmas special
it's honestly
I'm really excited
she can't stop talking to Christmas special. I'm really excited to go to the Toby Carvery.
She can't stop talking
to me about this.
I'm really excited.
I want to try some
I also don't eat pork anymore.
Oh why?
Parasites.
Also you know pork
is the same molecular
formula as humans
so actually if you're
eating pork
you're basically a carnivore.
Yeah but you know
what we drink
I drink cow's milk
and it's a bit odd.
Cannibal?
Cannibal. Do you remember Cannibal Lecter?? A Hannibal? I drink cow's milk and it's a bit odd. Hannibal? Hannibal.
Do you remember Hannibal Lecter?
That was Hannibal Lecter.
Oh, I never watched it.
But I think he did eat people.
Well, yeah, obviously, hence the name.
No, that's Cannibal.
This was Hannibal Lecter.
Yeah, but what other would be?
I think because he put other people,
he killed them, put their skin over him.
Fucking weird.
Okay, right, let's get. Fucking weird. Okay, right.
Let's get on to it.
So, Friendsgiving, obviously.
Well, I've actually celebrated Friendsgiving every year because Thanksgiving, my parents
are never really around.
So, Friendsgiving is just basically you spend Thanksgiving, but you do it with your mates.
It's quite nice.
I've never, ever done anything for Thanksgiving in my entire life.
What day is it?
It's the last Thursday in November.
Right.
Okay.
I only started doing it because my brother at the time had an American girlfriend.
She was over with us at the time. So, then my mum did the whole Thanksgiving roast, the turkey, okay. I only started doing it because my brother at the time had an American girlfriend and she was over with us at the time. So then my mum did the whole Thanksgiving,
roast the turkey, everything. And we did yams, which is sweet potato and marshmallows on
the top in the oven. It sounds weird. It's fucking good. Wait, wait, wait. My whole life
I've wanted to know what a yam is. Yeah, that's it. Sweet potatoes mashed and then you put
mini marshmallows on the top, put them in the oven and they come out all crispy. And
it sounds gross. It's next level delicious's very sweet you would love it yeah but
it's then the sweet with like the savory of the gravy and like the i can't describe it's delicious
okay what other things do you have with thanksgiving just a completely normal roast is what we normally
do but then we just did the yams with it so your family celebrates now consistently thanks well my
mum quite likes it now because it means,
because if we don't spend Christmas with the rest of the family in the UK,
because we normally are skiing for it,
so she then uses that as an excuse.
It's quite a nice thing to do, really.
We must do something.
Friendsgiving.
Why don't we do Toby Carby part one?
Friendsgiving.
What we're doing, this is Friendsgiving now, hun.
We should have had a mini rose.
Oh!
A mini rose with some pieces of pumpkin.
I should have bought you some yams.
Yeah, maybe you make me some yams.
Maybe I'll make you some yams.
I would love that.
With purple sweet potatoes
so we live forever.
Yes.
And the sugar just is cancelled
out by the purple.
Yeah, exactly.
So what do you think, Melissa,
makes a good friend?
Oh, yeah, we're going to
go through some questions.
Yes.
Keezy.
Someone that's honest with you. that makes you laugh yeah someone that you can trust someone that you can also sit in
silence with i think is heavily important me that's up there with one of the most important
hate it when you have to try and think of things and you're like oh i feel awkward next you have
to talk yeah but that's like not really a good friend when you feel awkward around someone
is it? Exactly so it makes a good friend by being like you can just sit in silence and be comfortable
with them. What do you think the best quality in each other? I'll ask you this. Okay fine. What do
you think the best quality in each other is? Well I say what my best quality is too. Yeah. Okay I
think you can sit in silence with me. Yeah. We don't but I could. I think you can sit in silence with me. Yeah.
We don't,
but I could.
I think I could sit in silence with you.
That's one of your
best qualities.
But also,
we,
we,
you're on.
I can sit in silence
with you.
Okay,
anyway,
we,
it's incredibly honest.
Yeah,
we're always very honest
with each other about stuff.
Yeah.
And we're always
very complimentary. I feel like we bring each other up a lot, which is lovely. And we laugh every time we're always very honest with each other about stuff yeah and we're always very complimentary i feel like we bring each other up a lot which is lovely and we laugh every time
we're on phone even when we say bye we're like bye haha yeah it's pretty weird it's just good vibes
it's good vibes around okay and what's the worst oh i don't know what your worst is you clearly
know what mine is oh no. No, what is it?
That when we try and do a double date,
Jamie's always like double books or something
and it's really fucking annoying.
That's not really Sophie's direct.
That's very annoying.
It's not her, but you know what?
You're an extension of your other half,
so it's your problem, so.
Surely mine is that I like start a conversation
and then I'm like,
but I do the same thing.
So it's like quite easy for my mind to follow that.
I'll come back to you when you next piss me off.
Yeah, I won't.
Okay.
Is it always sisters before misters?
Depends.
Obviously, you're married now.
I wouldn't cancel a plan that I'd made with Toby to like be with you.
No, I almost think the better friends you are, like the more you can understand.
I'd be like, no, I need to be.
And you would want me to flourish my relationship.
Yeah, yeah.
I do feel like maybe a thing of the past would be like, you're not going to go for a guy.
And when you're at school, I'm not going to go for this guy that you dated two days ago.
I'm going to put my friendship with you first.
Okay.
In that respect, yes.
Have you ever lied to one another to get them,
for one another to get in a lot of trouble?
Yes.
Loads of times.
You've done that loads of times.
Also, standing back to the Vade and Chelsea days,
Christ alive.
Oh, all the time.
That's just a web of lies.
We would both just sit there in silence
knowing exactly what we've done.
Me and Sophie were probably one of the only two cast members
that wouldn't fuck each other over.
So we would know everything in life for each other about so much.
To the producers, everyone took it to the grave.
No one, no one in the cast.
It was all corrupt.
It was corrupt, but we stayed loyal through it all.
We did stay loyal.
Melissa knew pretty much from the beginning when I was with Jamie.
I knew everything was kind of going.
I told you without telling you.
I couldn't hold it in.
Yeah, I know.
And also, like, we went out together. And you guys were like, you're right. I knew, that was probably going on. I told you without telling you. I couldn't hold it in. And also like we went out together
and you guys were like,
I knew,
but like obviously we didn't know.
So then my producer's like
cornering you
and I'd be like,
you have to be honest.
And I was like,
guys,
there's nothing to tell.
Oh my gosh,
yeah,
that night we went to Chicama.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
And we were like kissing,
kissing,
kissing.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
And you told me something
in the loo
and then you were like,
but not yet.
Like you looked at me like,
like this. Yeah, I think I was I was like no but the last time it happened in Cape Town when I came back and you like and I said I kept dropping hints like I was telling you in a riddle plainly obvious and you
were like what the fuck's going on I was like but then I know it was like you were telling me but
it was all in code have you ever had difficulties making friends?
I feel like also we've had the same friends forever.
No, I actually have.
What?
I grew up with a holiday home in Spain and I used to go there every summer and they all spoke Spanish and I thought they were so cool.
And I just really wanted to be involved.
She was a wannabe Spanish girl.
Yeah.
And I just was like the English giri they used to call me.
And I didn't.
And they called me sofa.
I know.
And I really struggled to make friends with them.
I wheezed.
I really persisted.
I wheezed my way in.
But like, I just wanted to be them and be friends with them.
And I just wasn't.
Okay, so that's good that you know what that's like.
So how was that?
How did that feel for you?
It was horrible, but also quite exciting.
It was like a mission.
When I first joined Made in Chelsea,
that was like going into a lion's den of like cool older people.
Oh, yeah, yeah, me too.
It was quite cliquey.
But then Sophie was like the only person that was nice to me
and then we became best friends.
Me too.
I wasn't friends with anyone on Chelsea until Croatia, really.
Yeah.
Again, it's just one of those things that you sort of just
get thrown into the lion's den
that was quite scary what's the easiest way to make friends i would just be yourself it's really
hard not try too hard but then also like put the effort in it's difficult there's nothing worse
than someone that's trying too hard to like then you also you just then you don't want to look you
don't want to not try and then you know you have to make the effort but you don't want to try too
hard where it's like do do you know what I mean?
I think you've got to, like, not emotionally, but you have to have a gut feeling of who actually will be your friend.
Like, I knew in Chelsea you were going to be my friend.
Like, we were going to be real friends.
Yeah.
So that was easy for me.
And once I was, we were friends, then I sort of had the confidence to be friends with other people.
But I don't think if
you I think you know if you're gonna actually have like a really good friendship with somebody
yeah I think that's the person you can be really open with and like yeah once you've got one that
you get on well with then it normally just stems from there slowly then you sort of work your way
into other friendship groups and like meet other people and it's quite nice yeah but like you have
to have that breakthrough yeah you do I think just be yourself and try and be happy.
Yeah, and also don't do what I tried to do
when I wanted to be friends with those Spanish people.
Don't try and be them.
I was like, oh my God, that's so cool.
I've got to be them.
Honestly, I'm trying to think of what they used to do.
Everything they used to wear.
They were so like, I just try to be them
like just be yourself
just be yourself
I also think
sometimes
you'll get
as you say
you'll get a good energy
from someone
if they're a nice person
or not
and they'll like
make an effort
to speak to you
like right
yeah
if you have good people
so if the people
don't want to be friends
with you
that's on them
and then they're
probably not nice people
but you'll
hopefully
it was like not so hard to make friends like humans want to be friends with you, that's on them. And then they're probably not nice people. But you'll hopefully, it was like not so hard to make friends.
Like humans want to be nice to one another normally, you know?
Yeah.
And I will say there's something about like, like I'm 29 now.
There's something about now.
I will say, I think it is like not a rite of passage.
And it kind of, being young is amazing and it's the funnest time.
But it also kind of sucks because you don't know who you are. Yeah yeah so trying to be friends with people is really hard when you don't even know
who you are or what you want to do and I feel like suddenly I know everyone says it yap yap yap
when you're in your 30s that you suddenly don't give a fuck what anyone thinks yeah
like I really do feel like I'm coming into that age now but before it's like oh I've got to be
cool or I've got to be totally and I also feel like probably now you're married you probably feel a bit more
like that too a bit more comfortable in your own skin like I don't care what other people think
kind of thing yeah because you're a bit you're just a bit more settled but I do think it's
something that comes with age too and unfortunately it's kind of something everyone goes through
because you just don't know yourself until you're completely I feel like it's a rite of passage that we will have to and then that forms us when we're older and that's
why we just become better people yeah touch wood okay dilemma one recently i was a bridesmaid for
one of my best friend's weddings let's call her sarah sarah and i have been best friends for well
over 10 years and we have been through some really tough times. She was my bridesmaid a couple of years back when I got married also. Lovely. When
I became a bridesmaid I was her closest friend but during the lead up to the wedding especially the
end things changed. I begun to distance myself because I didn't like the person Sarah was
becoming. She was particularly particular about everything and she became mean. For example, when
another bridesmaid got pregnant, she said to me,
how annoying. Couldn't she wait? Now she's
going to stand out in the photos.
No, that's awful.
She even told her sister, who
was already extremely insecure about her weight,
that she's the reason
she cannot find a bridesmaid
dress and she needs to lose weight for her wedding.
Savage.
It actually can't.
Sarah wanted everything to be perfect,
even at the expense of others.
My frustration grew towards the last month.
Sarah planned this extravagant weekend
which cost us all a fortune.
I opened up to her at the beginning to tell her
I couldn't afford it, but it didn't seem to bother her.
I still had to find a way to pay. What the fuck, Sarah? With four weeks to go at the beginning to tell her I couldn't afford it but didn't it didn't seem to bother her I still had to find a way to pay the fuck Sarah with four weeks to go to the wedding Sarah hadn't
found bridesmaid dresses yet I decided to send her to the shop my sister who was also getting
married got her bridesmaid dresses from I told Sarah which dresses my sister had bought so she
knew how to stay clear before you knew it she's gone and chosen the exact same dresses for her
wedding no without even asking if it was okay with my sister,
who was also going to be attending Sarah's wedding.
Sarah!
What the F?
No, no.
I'm pissed.
I stayed quiet because Sarah was stressed and I didn't want to add to that,
but I was upset.
When we get to the wedding rehearsals,
I am all of a sudden moved from second bridesmaids to fourth for the ceremony walk-in
i asked her if something was wrong and her response was i just want everyone to have a
turn being close to me you'll get your turn at the reception wait is she lost her heart
we get into the wedding night i come and sit down at the reception and find i've moved been moved
again oh now usually i wouldn't care but at this point I wanted to cry and go home
because I only ever tried
to do the right thing by her
but she was just being so mean.
My husband thinks
I've outgrown this friendship anyway
and told me that
Sarah's not a friend
he wants me to have
with how she talks
and treats her friends.
I agree.
But we have been friends
for so long
and I feel maybe the wedding
just got to her
and she was caught up in it all.
Do I approach her
and tell her what's wrong
or do I focus on more positive things and change in my life and cut her out I
think you have to cut her out necessarily I would approach her I do think wedding sends you
things definitely but like being super mean to your bridesmaids and doing stuff really not nice
but I do think you why not what what what would be the point in not telling her sure a you'd be helping her b give a
chance to the friendship c give give give someone the opportunity to see explain themselves as well
like maybe she'll just be like i just don't like know what i was doing or saying like i just want
it all to be so perfect and obviously that doesn't matter but i think you don't have to i don't also
don't think you necessarily do have to say anything like you could just sort of take a rough
step back and just wait for her to come to you and if she's like look is there
anything wrong or then you can be like look no I obviously still want to be friends with you but I
was just a bit upset with the way things went at the wedding but like obviously I love you so much
and see if she then opens up or you just hope that things have changed after the wedding and
then she'll just go back to being the normal her yeah because now there's no wedding there's no stress and you might just be like oh sick that
now that's over there's nothing for us to worry about yeah but I also do think you might hold
resentment if you don't open up about it just maybe slightly like I yeah maybe I would give
it some time and then maybe be like just by the way this upset me it's yeah moving me down the
slips up way back into the friendship you might be like
hold a bit of like yeah well we need to discuss this like that's not okay you've really upset me
at the wedding blah blah blah yeah fair but I don't think you have to cut her out I think that's
probably a bit extreme but sometimes I think if you've been friends for a really really really
really long time sometimes people do grow apart and that's fine but I think in this scenario
continues behaving this way yeah you might have to cut her out because that's not serving you and that's just not positive let's
just see how it goes i think this is one big thing that she's had to do and plan the choosing of the
bridesmaids dress annoys me how moving her best friend away is so mean it's saying it pisses me
off don't get me wrong i'm angry for you, don't worry, you'll get time with me at the reception.
Sorry, I am the princess.
You'll get time.
Your time will come.
Fuck me.
If you said that to me at your wedding.
You would literally sneak out.
I would lose my shit.
I'd be like, who the fuck do you think you are?
Your time will come.
It's outrageous.
It's outrageous.
It's outrageous.
I feel the frustration because it's just like, get off your high horse.
But now the wedding's over.
She can't be doing that. When it's someone's wedding, you can't really say something.
I know, you just have to swallow.
So true.
I don't even think, when we walked down the aisle,
I don't think Sophie didn't have anything to do with it.
She was just like, I'm just going at the back
and all I need is George to carry my dress.
The wedding planners sorted it out
where we would go,
oh, they did it by height.
Oh, yeah.
Didn't they?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were like the two short ones at the front.
That's why me and Emily were the first to go
because we were the shorter.
It went by height.
Who was with Izzy then?
Bella?
I think so.
And Chrissy and Emily were together.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, it was all by height.
And then George going,
I don't know why,
but the photos of her holding my belt
made me cry.
And her dress was so long as well
because she forgot to have it taken up.
So she had to hold up her own dress.
And yours?
Sweet.
Tactics.
It's good tactics that she had there, actually.
Right, dilemma two.
My dilemma is that my best friend
of almost 20,
wow, 20 has never asked me questions
about myself anymore.
I have called this girl my best friend
since we were five years old and we're now 24.
That's super cute.
However, for the last four years,
we have slowly drifted and not caught up as much.
She moved away, I have a partner and a really hectic job.
And I admit I have been avoiding catching up with her
because all she does is talk about herself.
I actually do have one friend like this.
I don't think I'm a boring person.
I have stuff going on and I run my own business.
I go traveling with my partner
and all the usual family drama to chat about.
But I just feel she doesn't care what's happening in my life
and she just wants to gloat about her life and work.
We had dinner and I began to see how long it would take.
It's when you notice it, you can't unnotice it.
I began to see how long it would take
for her to ask me something.
I don't know if I message her and tell her
that she doesn't seem very interested in my life
because she doesn't actually ask me any questions.
But I'm a bit worried about cutting her off as I don't have
loads of friends any advice would be appreciated thanks girls that's really tricky because I have
some friends who don't ask me anything but I'm not bothered about it because I actually sometimes
no they bet they do well I bet they do yeah I actually can't think of anyone I know who doesn't ask me anything.
I only have one person I know that likes, and it's so plainly no.
Not even like, how was your weekend?
Like, what did you do last night?
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I actually don't have anyone in my life that doesn't ask me anything.
But I'm thinking I wouldn't mind, but that also would annoy me if I knew.
But regardless, it's rude, right?
This is fucking rude.
And when you notice something you can't
notice and they're just non-stop talking about themselves i would i would just it's really bad
madness at the end of the day it's just rude really it's really rude it's so how can you say
that to someone it's really awkward i just probably wouldn't i would actually just probably
have to take a step back i just i don't think it's something like you're not going to feel bad
about it because you're still her friend and nothing big's happened and you're i wouldn't like cut her out but i just
personally wouldn't enjoy those times there's no point in meeting up with people like you've got
to feel a bit drained you leave your time like your time's valuable precious yeah totally and
like also your energy like that would just put me in a bad mood you don't want to feel drained
it is draining when people,
oh my God, I'm really worried.
You're literally sitting up.
Do I ask you that?
You are sending questions.
Okay, good.
I'm really freaking out now.
I'm honestly having a hard time.
Oh, this is what you could do.
This is what you could do.
This is what you do.
I was like.
Work on your question.
You could meet up,
when you next see her,
you could sit down and be like,
oh my God, I've had like the worst day,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
rant, rant, rant.
And then you could be like, oh my God, I saw, you you know emily the other day she didn't ask me any fucking questions
and actually really pissed me off then it will prompt her yeah like how it's just done with me
to be like oh shit i don't ask questions to be like it was just it's just really rude every time
i see her you can just tell a white line make up a person every time i see her she never asks any
questions and it's just really it's just really
bad social skills and like you know and then it will hopefully if that doesn't do it then i don't
know what will and you might have to maybe take a slight step back maybe like refer to your mom
rather than a friend she don't want to have being like maybe like a mom's friend or something be
like oh my god my mom's friend was around and my mom's just had enough because she's so draining
and i've noticed it too she's around then it's nothing that will get back to being like oh I know that friend of
hers and then she knows something so I think that's a good way of doing it it's really hard
because I honestly am having the fear of death I don't know you're so fine yeah but that is quite
hard we ask each other too many questions we're like I want to know every detail of your day
tomorrow and what did you do today like it's too much yeah we do I'm not happy until
I know everything you've got planned for yes today or do you know what I mean like I need to know
I need to know everything we're too nosy not to ask questions that's our problem I sort of like
get that vibe that from you because I get nothing from Jamie and I can't be like so what did you
eat today and he'll be like don't know I don't think I've eaten anything
I'm like well you have
because you wouldn't be standing
if you haven't
I'm like what was for lunch
he's like I don't know
yeah I know
and then I see him like
do something
and I'm like
well you didn't tell me
you did that
he's like oh sorry
I forgot
I'm like but how
it's just the lack of detail
yeah
like we had this
really fun birthday party at the weekend
and I left quite, like I left at six, he got home at like 12.
I was like, details, everything.
He was like, is that it?
I need gossip from stuff to finish.
Yeah, I need to know what conversations happened.
I wanted to know like where people sat.
I want to know, did people order food at a certain point in the evening?
Did someone get really drunk
did someone say
something a bit silly
yeah
what music was playing
I just knew
yeah I'm gonna say
I'm gonna have to
find someone else
like to give me the details
yeah you do
there's surely
some more people
in there
that you can get
inside from
yeah
that's what I just
need to know
I can't do things
without me
because I get
nothing back
I get nothing
in return
sometimes there's
huge things
like huge things Toby will tell me three weeks afterwards
and i'm like what how did you leave that information out and then one of toby's really
good friends who i'm like kind of friends with now i say quite close with this like dating and
whatever and like and like he'll like tell me himself but sometimes toby will like relay the
story to me and i'm like but how did it get to that point like what did she then answer back to
him when he said that he's like i don't know I'm like you don't ask the
right fucking question so then I end up calling the phone like I need to know probably everything
just because it bothers me that I don't I've got half the story can't sleep at night no I feel like
us girls are really detailed actually like I'm thinking of all of my friends yeah like I know
detail I know that when they breathed in between sentences
and like the eye contact
where it was
during that conversation
yeah
but no boys
they were
boys you're so boring
god
give us what we want
we read everything
about everyone
but that's maybe
why also boys
are maybe just a bit more like
they just don't care
they just don't care
maybe we're really nosy
but I'm sure
all girls are the same
we're nosy parkers.
I just like a proper story to be told in a proper way.
I totally agree.
It's not too much hassle.
Right, I've got a dilemma through.
All right.
Hey, Sophie and Melissa.
I have had a big drama, which I need your help with.
I'm part of a close group of girls.
We met at uni, holiday together and despite not all
living in the same place
we still chat every day
and manage to meet up
a lot too.
Gorgeous.
That's lovely.
I live in Manchester
and one of the girls
who I'm less close with,
let's call her Grace,
said that she was
moving to Manchester too.
I'd had some issues
with previous flatmates
so I said that we
should live together.
With my job I would get
a pretty big discount
on some clothes as well
as getting some freebies
from the office too
lovely
when we would go out
Grace would often ask
to borrow things
and I'd obviously say yes
as I would borrow
some of her clothes too
uh oh
I know this is going
but more often than not
Grace would misplace
things in the flat
and she would give them
back to me
when she found them
over the past year
of living with her
she's lost loads
of my clothes
which I was already
pissed off about.
How do you lose clothes if you're living in the same house?
How do they go missing?
I don't get that.
Yeah, that's weird.
Although it's quite me.
I really just got really angry then.
I've also lost the strap of my bags and I'm the only one who lives in my house.
So that's just stupid.
But I became furious when one of my best friends sent me a link to Grace's seat
do you remember
when I lost your
Abercrombie and Fitz shorts
that's what I'm thinking of
in Croatia
no it wasn't in Croatia hun
where was it
it was Sri Lanka
oh my god
you were so
it was the first day
we got there
she put them on
and then for the rest of the day
I had no shorts
for fuck's sake
it was the first day
but I
that's why I'm feeling for Grace
because I
the fear
I was like
you know why it's because we lost them somewhere in the fear, I was like. You know why?
It's because we lost them
somewhere in the resort.
It wasn't like you lost them
in your room.
Yeah.
Every day.
I was like,
fucking,
I don't have anything to wear.
I kept saying,
I know where they are.
I know where they are.
I didn't.
Anyway.
Should really get you another pair.
But I became furious
when one of my best friends
sent me a link
to Grace's secret
spicy Instagram profile
where she was modelling my clothes and selling them on Depop.
You're freaking killing me.
Did you know this?
I think it was you.
Well, I slightly went ahead, sorry.
I saw selling them on Depop in caps.
She doesn't know that we found the profile,
but I feel so hurt every time I have to pretend to be friending with her.
That's fucking shit.
That's stealing.
No, no.
I stopped letting her borrow my clothes and I've already started making plans to move out
but I'm petty
for wanting to get back at her
I don't want to break up
our friendship group
but I don't want Grace
in my life anymore
you must bring it up
tell the other girls
in the friendship group
for a start
and you absolutely can
because it's all over the internet
and all your friends
have seen it
and shown it to you
be like I'm really upset
what do I do
and then just have a word with her
be like I am so
I'd be like you need to move out.
It just makes me feel so like violated almost
that you've been like borrowing my clothes
and selling them.
No, what the fuck?
I'm furious.
There needs to be an enormous apology.
She needs to give you all the money
from all the money that she's made
from selling your clothes.
It's bizarre.
But then also like trying to be sympathetic.
There may be something deeper like
maybe she's having some financial issues and she can't pay the rent or something and she's like i
don't know but that there's no excuse absolutely not absolutely not but i'm like
i'm just trying to understand why she would do that to a friend but sometimes people are bad
you know it's also just like so oh that's actually giving me goosebumps yeah me too i
really hate stuff like this it just like imagine if you found out someone was doing that imagine
if i was doing that to you no it's so violating and she's willingly being like yeah you can wear
my top well sorry i've lost it imagine you just go on depop and you find those abacompy shorts
and me ordering them i think we can let the £20 shorts slide.
I'd be worried for you if you were trying to like,
if you stole them,
dissolve them.
I'm really baffled.
That is awful. I'm really upset for you.
I'm really sorry.
I personally would cut that.
I couldn't forget that.
Oh my God,
I have a confession.
What?
What?
What?
Okay, right.
A few years ago,
it was my birthday.
I was newly dating Toby
and you lent me
like a cardigan
a cardigan
a cardigan
yeah
that's just it
that cardigan
from Urban Outfitters
it wasn't very nice
I threw it away
the other day
in a wardrobe
I was still in my wardrobe
I know
I know exactly
in a e-bloggers bag
and I was like
she won't want that back
I've never worn it
she's not gonna wear it
and she doesn't even know it's missing oh my god I can't even think that's pushing three years ago
now I think I know exactly which one bit woolly yeah yeah yeah really bobbly not nice bobbly
cropped so yeah cropped but oversized shoulders yeah yeah yeah you know I used to get a lot of
compliments when I wore that no I wouldn't wear. No, I wouldn't wear that now. Do you know though, I really was looking for a black cardigan the other day
and I honestly in my mind thought,
sure I had one.
I don't know.
I have no black clothes anymore.
Oh my God.
Oh the thee.
You've lent someone a really nice denim jacket
and you've never got it back.
That really upsets me.
That, because that was a one-off.
It was a one-off like,
it was almost like an artist had like drawn on this denim jacket.
It was fucking cool. Yeah. Was it like from japan or something it was from a japanese brand and they
the artist like he did one per item and i got it and it was not cheap that was one of my first like
big items i bought i i equally shared as much love for even though it wasn't mine i think i got to
borrow every now and then and now it's fucking gone because you lent it to the wrong person
let that be a lesson
to you guys
don't lend your clothes out
in my mind
I still think
she must have it
because I'm like
where else is it
unless you sold it
but she might have lost it
she would never have sold it
she might have lost
I'd rather have
to have it still
and then maybe one day
I'll get it back
Jesus it's so annoying
so upsetting
right
I think karma
will get you in the bum
if you try and get back to her.
So be the bigger person,
get good karma,
and unfortunately karma will get her.
Yeah.
What's it called?
Too wrong, so make it right.
Make it right,
but there's another saying along those lines.
What the hell is it?
I think maybe that is just it, the saying.
I think that's it.
But yeah,
I think we've got to take the mature route
but if I was you
I think the mature route
would be to like
confront her
and be like
I need
I actually need
you need to pay me the money
from the clothes
that you've made
off of the money
the profit that you've made
for a start
and if you still have the clothes
give them back
I agree
or you could be the one
to buy them all on Depop
and then walk in and then walk in
and then walk in
yeah
and be like
I'm really upset
I'd walk in on them
that I've had to buy
my own clothes back
and I expect you to
refund me all the money
for it
shit that's so good
and that's
that is logistically right
because she should be
getting her clothes back
it's so
it's beyond fucked up
I invite every single item
put the address
as your address
no don't
so she'll know
yeah but she'll know anyway
and she'll be like
imagine the stomach
drop out of her arsehole
when she sees that
it's
she's got to send it back
she'll know
busted
and then be sat in there
drinking coffee
I know
turn around
on the like
swively chair
I know
yeah
what's that thing What's that thing?
What's that thing?
Oh!
Just when she's going to get her coffee
Just put a post-it note on the thing
I know
Damn, Wigget!
Or you could really freak her out
Or you could
Buy the exact same jumper and then wear it
Or like top and then wear it
And she'll be like
What the fuck?
Or you steal it back from her room.
Fucking go and steal them back.
Just go steal them back
so then someone else will buy them from Depop
and she'll be like,
I don't know where they've gone.
And you'll be,
I don't wear them.
And she'll then,
and then you just go,
I went into your room
and got all my clothes back.
Why?
Why do you need them?
They're mine.
I'm not going to lie.
And then she'll be like,
but I've sold them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So many options.
I also feel like this is fully breaking the law.
Like you could genuinely report her to the police.
Maybe a step too far, but like,
depending on how far you want to take the matter.
I'd have some fun with it first.
And I don't think karma's going to get you for that
because you're not like stooping to her level.
You're just actually redeeming what is yours.
Yeah, taking back what's rightfully yours.
Yeah.
Your hard-earned fucking money.
I think the safest option to do would be to go into her room
and get her stuff.
Also, this stuff is going to be nice design shit.
Yeah, because why else is she selling it?
It's so rogue.
Right, moving on, moving on, moving on to friendship story time.
I'm loving these friendship themed things.
So here's a bit of backstory.
I've been in a happy relationship for four years with my boyfriend and we moved in together three years ago during lockdown.
His best friend moved in with us about a year ago due to having nowhere to live.
So the other day I was in the shower and the doorbell rang.
I thought it was my boyfriend and he forgot his key. So I jumped out the shower and threw on a small dressing gown I opened the door and ran back up the stairs not checking who it was how stupid I didn't even think it could be
anyone else as I got up to the top of stairs I looked he was doing a quick look in and then
looked away my boyfriend's best friend and also housemate caught a half-shaved vagina as I was running up the stairs.
Oh, I'm absolutely...
Oh, I see.
So he looked in and looked away.
No, no, sweet boy.
Oh, no.
My question is, do I love and die my boyfriend or do I just leave it as if it never...
It's also half-shaved.
No, it's the boy.
I don't know why that's so adorable that he was like,
Oh, I didn't see anything. Oh, my God. It's also her boyfriend's best friend and the housemate. I don't know why that's so adorable that he was like, guy, I didn't see anything.
Oh my God.
It's also her boyfriend's best friend
and the housemate.
I would tell him.
I think it's lols.
I don't know.
But his...
Sorry,
the half shave would kill me.
Oh my God.
So do I laugh it off
and tell my boyfriend
and leave it as it is
as it never happened?
But to be fair,
it's too funny not to tell him.
That's the advice.
Definitely tell him.
Definitely tell him
and tell the friend.
Be like the friend.
Be like,
oh my God,
so sorry about that. Wait, did she have like a razor in her hand like she was mid-shading
got no idea that's so funny so this sort of thing we would do that is checked open the door that is
so funny and the and the friend looking and then looking away it's just what boys do i've had this
so many times and they place and they panic in the grain i don't really give a fuck i've just
had it and i'm like no like a girl don't really give a fuck I've just had it
and I'm like no
like a girl wouldn't
I'd be like
what the hell
if a boy opened the door
with his willy out
oh my god yeah
can you imagine
yeah we'd be like
I wouldn't be able to
I would literally
I'd be pissing myself laughing
but a boy like
so politely looks away
oh my god bless him
as if he's never seen it
it's funnier to bring it up
handy pay
I mean that's
similar sort of thing
Toby's brother
see me completely butt naked the first time i went to family house terrible business that's
that is like oh it's so good it's so good right hi lovelies one of your aussie fans here i just
wanted to write in about how my best friendships always seem to start with not liking the other at all when you first meet interesting my best friend
who i met at school was stuck together for most of our classes in year nine i couldn't stand her
but for some reason by the end of that the year she had stuck and we were suddenly in separate
three years out of school and we are just as close's gorgeous. That's gorgeous but quite peculiar. Really quite peculiar
but I think that's probably
like initial.
Sometimes first impressions
are not good.
It's as simple as that.
I don't really think
I've ever had like
utter beef with someone
like at school
where I just didn't like.
My school was very friendly.
Like everyone kind of got on.
It wasn't a bitchy school.
Luckily,
I'm very lucky.
But the older people in my school were not nice oh yeah mine was scary serious hierarchy Ruby when I first
met her I thought that she really hated me I met her at someone's wedding and I felt like she was
really sort of standoffish with me and then the next time I saw her I was like oh my god we're
best friends I think you told me that yeah I was like I met Ruby I was like I don't think she's that much of a fan I was like she didn't seem that friendly and the next time I saw her I was like oh my god we're best friends I think you told me that yeah I was like I met Ruby I was like I don't think she's that much of a fan I was like she didn't seem that
friendly and the next time I saw her she was just like the best girl ever but some people can have
a bit of a guard up and then come across in a certain type of way yeah I think maybe I have
that quite a lot when I meet people not I hope I don't know you're so friendly you're joking
no but not me but maybe I find other people have a guard up I definitely do
have friends that if I've been like oh scary and then two times a day I'm like oh my god I
freaking love them totally it's just like people have their guard up you gotta like that's just
just something that people and also it can come from a place of being like
not it might not be that confident or like them being like conscious of everything
they're saying
because they're like
not nervous
but they're like
aware of the fact
that you don't know them
and then that's them
coming across as quite stiff
which they can come across
quite rude
totally
tiny questions
I love these
okay
which celebrity
would you like to be friends with
and why
oh I can tell you
Jennifer Anderson
or Reese Witherspoon
because they look like
good time gals they do look like good time gals they do like good they look like i feel like reese would be our best mate
totally and i also would love meryl streep to just be like in my life it's some same but like
i'm not sure me and how would be calling each other every day to tell each other what we're
doing no neither but i wouldn't with jenna Jenna. I would think of Jenna as like a fun aunt. Okay, Rhys,
I kind of think I would.
Okay, friends,
Kylie Jenner,
off.
Oh no,
I think I'm going to go.
I think she looks jokes.
Maybe Hailey Bieber.
I know she's a bit boring,
but I just kind of want to see
like what they do every day
from a nosy perspective.
I would love to be her friend.
Of course,
from a nosy,
but I do think she seems
really, really nice.
I think she's got,
like everyone says that she's so lovely.
Okay.
Even though she can be a bit... Yeah.
Okay, fine.
We'll go with Hayley Beale.
Beeps.
No, wait, there's someone really great that's really funny.
We're literally forgetting about them.
Who the fuck is it?
Al Pacino.
Okay.
Or Morgan Freeman.
Okay, yeah, you've always loved Morgan Freeman.
I don't know. I've always... Oh, Robert De Niro. Oh, yeah, you've always loved Morgan Freeman. I don't know.
I've always...
Oh, Robert De Niro.
Oh, yeah, he'd be a legend.
He would be sick.
Oh, Brad Pitt, obviously,
just because I'd literally lick his drink
when he left the room.
You changed the sentence as it was coming out.
Lick his drink as he left the room.
Or VB.
Yeah, Victoria Beckham, not so much David VB yeah Victoria Beckham
not so much David
yeah
Victoria Beckham
yeah
oh my god
Eve Longoria
obviously
oh my god
how did you leave that out
yeah she's my
numeral
honestly
that would be
really really good
right
maybe we leave it there
yeah we leave it there
but I've got that
little present
oh my god
I'm really judging this
because I haven't got you
anything to give back
no
I've got us matching ons
this is
this is for friendsgiving and for just our friendship.
Oh, my God, you sweet angel.
And we have to wear them all the time.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
No, you sweet angel.
Where did you
find this
no no
Melissa has got
open hearts
broken
I know
and then I'm
connected to you
sweet
we can connect
them together
oh my god
oh my god
why would that
can someone actually
please tell me
where the fuck
you found me
Claire's in Cedric
why are you
gonna find them
oh my god
is it actually
Claire's in Cedric
yes oh my god this is really actually Claire's accessories? Yes.
Oh my God, this is really nostalgic for me.
I know, so nostalgic.
They were the best thing ever.
Stop.
Well, thank you so much for the thoughtful gift.
Lil' sister.
Yeah, yeah.
What?
Is that what it says?
Hi.
Wait, can we come and? I can't.
What does yours say?
Big sis.
No, it's too funny.
So for anyone who is listening and not watching,
I have got Melissa's friendship necklace from Classic Zazaries and it says
big sis
open like a half of the heart
and the other half of the heart
little sis
and it's fluorescent
every colour of the rainbow
and it's like one of those
like stretchy
like
yeah what they choker
they're called a choker
yeah the stretchy choker thing
and then it's
yeah it's special
it's special
bye guys
bye guys
have a fab day
love you
and have a fab day love you friends giving hey
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