Wednesdays - Ep 2: What we think about a lads holiday

Episode Date: April 20, 2021

Hey Guys,Welcome back to our second episode arrrhhhh - so exciting - we got dressed up for this one!! Get your drinks ready as we jump into another episode of dilemmas, boyfriend troubles, allergies, ...lads holidays, cheating and so much more. Thank you for all your messages and love we honestly adore them all!! I hope you enjoy the ep xToday we drank Broglia Gavi di Gavi!https://www.waitrosecellar.com/ten-at-ten/broglia-gavi-di-gavi-docgOur ratings are:Sophie: 7Melissa: 7/8Follow us on social @wednesdayswedrinkwineJamPot Productions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:52 Welcome back to episode two of Wednesday's We Drink Wine. I'm really excited about this episode because I feel like we've got a new wine to try. We've got dressed up. Yeah, we've got dressed up today, guys. We've actually videoed it. Oh yeah, so you can see also I feel like it's sort of migrating into like we're coming out of lockdown so this is like easing us back into it because I'm quite nervous when did the first step happen a couple days ago right yes 29 it's all unleashing very quickly everyone's in the park Oh my god the traffic Jamie are you listening?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Okay no I know what you mean Everything is happening quite quickly now And it's like gone from 0 to 100 Bam all restaurants are booked I haven't booked anything I booked everything and then I found out Jamie is leaving me To go film a TV show
Starting point is 00:01:41 Oh god take me You can come and Harry Let's come up for dinner Oh my god I can't wait let's also try the wine Okay let's go go film a tv show take me yeah well you can come and how are you i can be your third girl we can just come up for dinner oh my god i can't wait let's also try the wine okay let's go okay well done the girl did good okay so this is sophie's choice this is my choice all right so not very good with wine i've told you guys that before i'm more of a can taste girl so i thought where do i get wine i went to my local wine shop is that what you called it oh my god you are so cute and i thought oh my god melissa loves the rose so i went in i was like
Starting point is 00:02:17 do you have any rose they were like no we just do white and red i was like oh shit can't get red because it's becoming summer didn't want the red tea so i was like do you have any whites and he was like yeah what do you like literally no one white chardonnay and gabby's i was like do you have any caffeine he's like yeah this one quite expensive yeah let's talk about price tag and talk about the it's a nice bottle yeah it is it's a 19 what is it what 2019 oh god yeah i really that's actually a couple years old now thinking about it i'm like god 2021 Yeah, it is. It's a 19, what is it? What, 2019. Oh, God. That's a long time. Yeah, I really was. Because that's actually a couple years old now, thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I'm like, God, 2021. Yeah, of course it is. Right. Also, why have you got so much more than me? I think you topped yourself off. I must have done. No, you know what? I'm going to out him.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Jamie poured me a big glass. He obviously could see I was stressed. No, no, no. Whoa. There we go. Okay. It's a really nice bottle. It is.
Starting point is 00:03:05 It looks very traditional French kind of vibe. I really hope it is actually French because if it's not... And also there's something about the... I feel like... I don't know much about wine, but I've always like heard... Is there lots of different types of Gabby's or is it just one? Or is that really stupid of me to say? You know what?
Starting point is 00:03:20 You're asking the wrong person. But I feel like maybe it's the type of grape. No, it absolutely is not. Right. Okay okay we're not allowed to do this okay well how much did you pay for it i paid 24.99 it's quite expensive i'm treated you really splashed out i thought i went overboard last week i know i think next week we're gonna have to go more budget like this is a bit ridiculous actually oh my god i'm gonna be out of pocket. I really appreciate it. It's a really lovely wine. It is very lovely, guys. It's kind of like a, it's just very, let's try and be like really descriptive. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Let's just, I'm going to do the proper like. You can do it. Oh my God. Is that, you meant to spit it back out. That went, that went really well. That went terribly wrong. Oh my God, do you want to spit it back out. That went really well. That went terribly wrong. Oh my God, you don't do it any slower. The round people are like...
Starting point is 00:04:12 You're going to dribble it. Oh, there comes the lick. I find that it actually distorts the taste too much. Like now I'm like, it's too winey. I'm a massive gold pro. I'm such a fast drinker. I think that's why. My dad calls myself
Starting point is 00:04:25 mom and mom and I guzzlers that we just drink wine so fast oh my god you remember like back in the day so really digressing but when you would just get so drunk off the rosy and when Melissa gets drunk I'm sure it's gonna happen one of these podcasts because I'm not gonna lie the last podcast when you left I was slightly tipsy on on the way there and also I will say just because I'm gonna put it out there no one judged me I'm allergic to quite a few things but I'm definitely mildly allergic to wine because I get like this blocked nose something happened to you oh yeah I get like a blocked nose look it's coming to me already like a block it's just so weird yeah my mom gets it as well I wonder if we'll find a
Starting point is 00:05:03 specific one that doesn't do that to you or is it alcohol in general no it's not it's not it's definitely wine so it's probably like the gluten in it oh i don't know i do i do think that that's actually not so uncommon i have heard people be allergic to wine before i wouldn't worry i'm allergic to everything my hay fever at the moment is through the roof yeah you're probably just a sensitive gal it's okay princess does Harry like wine with you yeah
Starting point is 00:05:29 loves wine Jamie doesn't Jamie's not a wine drinker Jamie's an all or nothing kind of guy yeah wants to get like hammered
Starting point is 00:05:37 yeah so I and then I almost feel weird if I have a glass of wine with my dinner without him do you know what I mean yeah
Starting point is 00:05:43 because he's like if I'm drinking it's like he's drinking and oh no one wants to see the end of that night no Harry's not like that I both just really appreciate a nice glass of wine that's my dream oh my god I need to educate Jamie you do I think as he gets older that'll happen more mate he's nearly 40 I know what are you talking about I don't know he's nearly 40. I know. What are you talking about? I don't know, he's a late developer. He is actually nearly 33. That's old. It's not old. That is old. When we get there, we'll be like, we're so young.
Starting point is 00:06:12 When I'm 30, having my big 3-0, when I'm the big 30th, he will be 37, nearly 40. Oh my god, no. When I'm 30, how old will Harry be? Nearly 30. Oh, really old really old good luck he'll be literally seven years older than me seven years that is that isn't make that's so old oh my god don't
Starting point is 00:06:33 wait isn't jamie's age gap and ours is the same age gap so when you're 30 jamie will be 37 how are we so stupid the wine is going to, guys, and we've digressed so much. It actually is. I'm not going to lie. We did have, we opened it before the podcast, so we're having some difficulties plugging it all in, so.
Starting point is 00:06:51 But the wine is delightful. Thank you very much, Triton. It is so nice. You're so welcome. I'm really enjoying it. Guys, also, I'm so grateful for everyone sending in the diamonds.
Starting point is 00:07:01 They're getting better and better every week. Oh my God, they really are. And you guys are sending in so many. I wish we could read out more. really wish i also we need to go through them and reply to you all because i feel like i actually have a lot to say i know and i want to answer i want to answer like so many i'm like can we just read out all of these and talk about them because they're all so important as well and these are such valid points i'm like oh my god such valid points and i really like resonate with all of them I know but shall we yeah let's crack shall
Starting point is 00:07:25 we discuss that we've picked one each okay we pick one each and neither of us know the other ones so yeah Melissa I'll read you mine first okay it's quite short but I so resonate with this my boyfriend is planning a lad's holiday to Ibiza suddenly a girl is coming along and he says I think I'm sharing a room with her because we're the only ones not single. What is that logic? What the fuck? I trust him, but I don't trust her. And it's weird.
Starting point is 00:07:50 She suggested that being in a relationship herself, they should then share a room together. Where's the respect for me? So firstly, just to clarify, I'm assuming that logic is like, oh, we're not going to bring anyone back to share. So we should share a room. Absolutely not. Oh, dear. No, i'm not your boyfriend's already agreed to this so
Starting point is 00:08:10 if it's not a bloody lad's holiday then is it if i was going i'm sorry what what so red flag number one wait so can you say to your boyfriend um if it's is... If it's a last, if it's not a last holiday and she's going... Then you should go. Be like, I'll share a room with you. Yeah. She can, like, you know, have her own room. Why isn't her boyfriend going if it's a last holiday? This is very strange.
Starting point is 00:08:37 There's so many questions for you. Right, if I, let me put it in perspective. So, if my boyfriend... Yeah, think about if our boyfriend's... Jamie was like, look, it's a lad's room. I'll be like, there's a girl going, you stupid idiot. Can I share a room with her? No.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Well, first I'd just be like, it's not a lad's holiday, there's a girl's going, so book me my ticket. I prefer you to share a room with one of the other boys. Who cares if they bring a girl back? As long as you're sharing a room with one of your friends that's a guy then that's fine pretty weird if the girl is bad she said she didn't like that girl no she didn't say that she didn't reference that
Starting point is 00:09:13 you already just really don't like I'm just like no I don't like this girl well the other girl doesn't have any respect or ask her how she feels or thinks about how she would feel also being a girl myself I just would never do that to another girl's boyfriend or my my own boyfriend and be like I'm gonna go
Starting point is 00:09:32 share a room with another bloke yeah it's really weird very strange I mean people have different like views on what's okay and what's not in relationships which I understand but if your boyfriend is respectful of you then he'll just be like yeah you know what okay fine i totally get that you're not comfortable with that i won't do it i'll share a room with the other boy he's probably surely if he's like if harry said to you oh my god i shared a bed with on a group holiday you weren't there for whatever reason he was like i shared a bed with so so would you be pissed off but they were his best friend and he was like oh she's in a relationship the classic doesn't matter they've got you know what back in the day like
Starting point is 00:10:09 when harry and like let's say live example so close and they were all in a scenario and live and harry ended up sharing a bed i wouldn't care no i wouldn't care if live that me either she's our mate yeah and i i know their friendship yeah but if it was a random girl that I didn't know and I was like who is this person then oh yeah we shared a room I would be like I know that's not okay yeah it's weird also it's one of those things I think for me I've been in situations where also it's it's more about like the gossip from firstly the respect no it's not okay it's pretty weird but secondly like everyone's gonna gossip about it being like oh my god they're sharing a room do you know what I mean like I've had that with Jamie like if he's been you know
Starting point is 00:10:55 with boyfriends in the past if they've been overly friendly like I remember this one time we were all at a party and like Jamie was talking to a girl for two minutes longer than he should and honestly there's a rumor the next day that he was like being so inappropriate with her and I was like I saw I was watching like a hawk yeah it's more like what everyone else then says and then it looks like and then everyone's like oh god he's disrespecting his girlfriend like yeah that on top of it which then is just making yeah yeah so it's rather like i wouldn't even say you know i wouldn't i don't think you need to think about it i think you just need to be like flat out no yeah so it's a no from me yeah same read me yours bring me up but also don't let him make you out to think that
Starting point is 00:11:35 you're being crazy or anything because you're really not you're really not tell him to listen to the podcast if he thinks that you're being crazy you have to read yours out so guys for those of you who don't know i am severely dyslexic and i find reading really difficult so i can read it but it will take me a while so sophie's gonna read sorry everyone that's probably really annoying for you was hoping to get some help with my dilemma my boyfriend has been together my boyfriend have been together my boyfriend and i have been together since our first week at university five years ago we had a little too much champagne last week and he told me that he feels trapped and knows that at some point in time he want to experience what it's like to be with other women and asked me if
Starting point is 00:12:14 we could have an open relationship I said I wasn't ready for that and that we should not be together if he wants to see other people he said he didn't want us to break up as he loves me knows that I'm the one I'm afraid I'll wake up in three years and he would have cheated on me and that I would have wasted my time. Should I see what happens or leave now and save for my pain later? This is a really difficult one.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Oh, my heart really goes out to her because I've been there. I know we both sort of have. Well, you have in different ways to me. But I've been in a long-term relationship from a young age and so have you. When it's gone on and on and But, like, I've been in a long-term relationship from a young age. And so have you. When it's, like, gone on and on and you're like, oh. And uni, uni is about your son.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Uni is difficult. I do remember, like, thinking this with my, like, my ex. Yeah, he is my ex. Because we went out. Not this one. Which one was it? Fancy, Maddie. But I remember
Starting point is 00:13:05 thinking we went out for how long like nearly four years and I remember thinking oh god like because you do think
Starting point is 00:13:12 well I'm probably going to marry you I know I remember thinking oh no I've definitely not tested the waters yeah time is
Starting point is 00:13:19 ticking on and he's probably thinking that like it is scary and I think also if he's thinking it I. Like, it is scary. And I think also, like... But sure, if he's thinking it, I think, like, and he's actually had the balls to say it to you, he's really thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:13:34 To the point where he... But he almost can't bring himself to make a decision or do anything because you've been together for such a long time. And there's that familiarity. And obviously, you love each other. So it's almost like you get a fear when you've been together for so long of, like, the unknown what's that familiarity and obviously you love each other so it's almost like you get a fear when you've been together for so long of like the unknown what's going to happen when you break up ultimately like you have to think my advice is if you are happy together
Starting point is 00:13:55 you both have to outweigh the pros to the negatives because I do think there is a danger in thinking oh well let's just break up let's test waters let play around. And if we're meant to be, we'll come back together. And the likelihood is you're not going to. Yeah. So I think weigh out the pros and cons. And if you guys have gone together for five years or, sorry, four years, have a lot on five years, I think. Five years, yeah. And you're good, you're solid, then stick with it.
Starting point is 00:14:19 You've got a good thing. But imagine if Jamie sat down with you. He's probably thinking with his dick and he's probably sat with like four people and like oh my mates have got well maybe he's not i don't know like you i think that people change so much during those like 10 years of your life like from when you're like 18 to like i just from past experiences things and this is not me because I'm very happy where I am now but I think breaks never work the way you want I don't think breaks work but I also think if one of you is seriously thinking about it all the time to the point where you actually bring it up to
Starting point is 00:14:56 your partner I think that you need to reassess and think you know what like you don't want anyone to feel like they're essentially not trapped but like like being slightly, you know, I can't leave the relationship because it's familiarity. That's not a good enough reason. Yeah. And you're being scared of like not finding anyone good enough. If you're not totally happy and satisfied, which unfortunately by the sounds of it, he's not because he's thinking about what he's missing out. And he might just be thinking shit. Like everyone panics it's
Starting point is 00:15:25 like pre-wedding jitters like people panic like you know before I get married I probably will cross my mind god I'm gonna be with this person for the rest of my life like yeah I think that almost is normal I think there is a part of like your life where you do think you know you go from uni to the next chapter of your life right and I think that you know he probably is finishing uni you've been together for five years and he's like are we gonna to the next chapter of your life, right? And I think that, you know, he probably is finishing uni. You've been together for five years and he's like, are we going to start this next chapter of our lives together? Because if we are, we've invested so much time together. Then it's, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah. Like, when did you... I know what you mean, but I wouldn't want to be trying to convince my partner. No. No. But I wouldn't make any rash decisions, is what I'm saying. I think if I was you,
Starting point is 00:16:07 I would have to essentially give them like an ultimatum, you know, and be like, I love you. I want to be with you and make this work. However, knowing that you're feeling like this and thinking these things, like I don't want to hold you back and make you unhappy
Starting point is 00:16:22 by feeling like you have to stay in this relationship. If that's truly what you want to do and you think that that's going to be the right decision for you right now then you should do it and we need to make this decision I don't think there's any way of having an open relationship oh that just doesn't sound like a good idea that's like he's having his cake and eating it I'm not liking that no he's not suggesting an open relationship no he's not he's just being like, these are my thoughts. Like, it's freaking me out. No, the word open relationship was there.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Go back and look. I'm so sure. Am I imagining that, guys? Did anyone else hear open relationship? Oh, my God. Yes. Yes. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:57 See? So, this is a whole other element to it, isn't it? Open relationship. I'm really sorry. No. Yeah. Flat out no no but then again that's us sometimes it works for people like if that works for you doesn't sound like it does because i feel like you would you wouldn't be having the thoughts otherwise yeah it wouldn't
Starting point is 00:17:17 be a dilemma you'd be like sweet yeah let's bring another let's go scouting oh my god would you ever have you ever no no can you imagine me having a three no i can't i can't imagine even having sex i can't imagine you either oh trust me it doesn't happen no i'm joking no but wait i want to go back a little bit just from past experience when you well because we've probably both been in this situation as i'm sure those people have what was the point where you like actually know these these sorts of two regular as in you've been in a relationship for so long you're thinking god i don't mind started with having a lot of dreams dreams about other men like you are i would have sexual dreams about other other men shut the fuck
Starting point is 00:18:07 up yeah so that's how it started i woke up and be like god it's just a dream you know everyone every now and then i have a weird dream when you're like oh i kissed someone else and you feel really guilty that's different it wasn't like that it was like all the time and i was like god this isn't like there's something you might be having sex yeah i was just sleeping with other men is it not the best one that'sm you've ever had? It is, though, isn't it? But it was more like I would wake up every... Like, I would get less and less guilty thinking, like, this is a sign. This is my inner conscience telling me you're not happy.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And I remember thinking also, like, oh, you know what, Melissa? One day you'll wake up and you won't be in this relationship. And then you'll be happy. There was also other toxic sides. Oh, my God, that's hideous. I know. But you know what be in this relationship. And then you'll be happy. There was also other toxic sides. Oh my God, that's hideous. I know. But you know what? I still stayed.
Starting point is 00:18:49 I stayed for three years. Why? Why do women do this? Why did you stay that long? Because it's like the fear of the unknown. I don't know what it was. Wait, you fell out on me? We broke up for eight months
Starting point is 00:18:59 and then I got back with you. No, you're joking. We only stayed together for like another three months and then it was over. Yeah, once they cheated, you can't really have a bit of that. I just couldn't. I just couldn't. And we just didn't get on.
Starting point is 00:19:11 We didn't like each other. It was just me. But why do we do that? It's so weird. I stayed, even though in my gut, I knew I didn't want to be there. Did you like kissing him? I was really trying to put myself back in that headspace. Yeah, remember those lips.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Like, were you like, oh, did you get the the ick because that's when it goes tits out so a couple of times I remember thinking to myself like no no no it's okay like this is this is the person that you're in a relationship with like reminding myself this isn't a dream and you're you are allowed to be like doing this almost like it just didn't it didn't feel natural it didn't feel right after you'd be having sex and you had to be like oh this was like wrong like i'm cheating on yeah a part of me was like i felt like you had a part of me just knew it wasn't right and then i would always remind myself i don't worry i won't go on for long like this relationship won't last for longer like and then you can be free kind of thing it was so odd And that went on for months. Guaranteed winner by 11pm every day. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600. Or visit connectsontario.ca.
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Starting point is 00:20:39 I know. This place in my mind. Were you sad? Like, how did you deal with it? But I remember my mum saying that I was like a bit of a shadow of my former self in that relationship. Like, I just got a bit lost. And I think it's because it was the first, I guess, real adult relationship that I was in. And it was in school.
Starting point is 00:20:57 How long were you with him for? So, if it's just the parts, we were actually together in a relationship like two and a half years god it's a long time when you're that young it really is how young were you i was 17 18 when i first lower sixth i'm really giving away who this person is but yeah lower sixth wow you were young yeah and i think that maybe when you're that age it's so normal to have like those thoughts and not know what the hell you want because you are so young and then I also think for men when they go into uni they are then at that age everything happened with no oh all right you little slut I did not expect that oh my god no no I had a boyfriend before that but he was really lovely
Starting point is 00:21:42 like the nicest are you a boyfriend Are you a boyfriend? No. Yeah, you really are, aren't you? And I didn't go to uni, so I didn't have that whole experience. But I kind of wish that I did, because my uni experience was in London. I was at like a college thing, and I was with a boyfriend. Why? I was doing long distance with him, and I was like, God, I missed out on all those fun times. I could have been single clubbing. You know?
Starting point is 00:22:10 What were those sweaty boys? Yeah. I know what you mean, but like it just makes me think like, why did I put, like why did I waste so much time? If we all look back on all of our past relationships and we're like,
Starting point is 00:22:20 oh, why did, like I could be like, why did I waste three years? Like, you know, we could all do that. But I think you've got to try not to and like learn from it totally which that relationship so did and I learned so much about myself but I think ultimately if you start if anyone in the relationship starts to have thoughts about what that's just not right to me like you should just
Starting point is 00:22:41 be so happy and content in a relationship and if you're not then you shouldn't be in a relationship at that time and it's not the right person for you I think that's a really good piece of advice and you know what I actually don't think I've ever properly thought about it and I don't think I could really I've never been in that sort of experience I don't know whether I could give that sort of advice I think it's a hard one I think it's you've always been just so happy in your relationship well no I've obviously broken up with some people in the past yeah but having said that I just I think it's hard if they've been together five years it's a long that's the problem it's such a long time you're like I just don't I'm hesitant to say to her or you know end it because I don't know his side of the story and it seems like you know it seems like I don't know his side of the story. And it seems like, you know, it seems like, I don't know, from that,
Starting point is 00:23:25 I just feel like she's got a lot of love for him. I know, but then I don't feel like it's right for her to put up with someone who's like, I kind of want to go and explore. Yeah, it's definitely something you need to speak about. Like, you deserve better than that, I think, to be honest. Yeah, you're so right. Like, if Jamie was to say that to you, you'd be like, fuck off. I'd be like, there's the door.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah. Get out. Get out. Get out. I'd be like, there's the door. Yeah. Get out. Flat. Get out. Get out. I really would. So I think that you deserve better. And, like, the only reason why I digressed into going through my own thoughts was because that is what I was feeling.
Starting point is 00:23:57 So if that's what this bloke is feeling, it's not right. God, it's just hard. And I really feel for you because, you know, he's technically not doing anything wrong. He's just that's where i'm like yeah i can't i wish i could be like to you what an arsehole but like really you know just being honest with you at least he's not acting on it but what i will say is that it's good he's told you and it's good you're speaking about it because if you if he kept it a secret and he just you know the likelihood is he probably would have cheated on you yeah at least he's been respectful enough to just have a conversation about how he's so you've got to give
Starting point is 00:24:28 credit where credit's due i guess yeah yeah very sensible i like that yeah it can't be so feisty the whole time no you're right you're right we can't hate boys too much and also just to like whoever that was i think that you know look at manissa she's obviously been through that and now you're happier than ever. And you've got no regrets. So not with that person. So like... Yeah, it's like she's ended it and she's in a new relationship and she's super happy.
Starting point is 00:24:52 So like, don't ever think... I really do believe that everything happens for a reason and if it's meant to be, it will be. And I think you deserve to have someone love you and be... Unconditionally, yeah. And be so happy and feel lucky that they're with you. Rather than be like, I want to have someone love you and be unconditionally and be so happy and feel lucky that they're with you rather than be like i want to have another person but did we not that i'd ever think that i'd never have those thoughts but like we're not always so happy like we always do no but you don't want someone to be like oh god i really wish that we could just have an open relationship yeah sorry i really am being very kind in this guy very kind yeah and he's not being he's not being horrible and cheating on you and
Starting point is 00:25:25 doing x y and z i understand that but i don't i don't think that that's 100 he obviously loves you but that's not satisfaction within the relationship like he's not happy in the relationship he loves you so he's like i want to keep i don't want to lose you but i want x y and z from other women god it kind of makes my skin cool just because i feel for you i really do i feel your pain but like jesus like you can't go to your parents with that like you know or your friend they'll just hate him so it's like a really tricky one that's why i feel because i've got shadows i just feel the girls because i can imagine being in your position but what i will say is likely it is he'll go have tried the grass on
Starting point is 00:26:07 the other side and it definitely won't be greener yeah and by that point you'd have moved on because women i do honestly believe always move on we we find it worse at the beginning but then we move on and we move on faster and the boy goes out gets drunk sleeps with his girl they realize there's shagging nose of people they have no connection with, they don't have any feelings for. They're waking up the next day feeling so shit and then they come running back. It's true. So just mind yourself that, remember that.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And remember your self-worth. You don't have to just give in to someone because you've been together with them for five years and let them have what they want. You don't owe them anything. You should be happy. And you don't have to worry about, oh, what if I waste it? Because you, I'm sure, have created so many memories together.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah. You know, you probably learn so much and become who you are because of that. So you can look at it as a positive and then move on to the next chapter of your life. Yeah. Amen, sister. That was very good, Sister Sophie.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I'm impressed with your advice. I know. I really enjoyed that. Oh, we have our little boyfriend dilemma the dilemma slash moaning section where they just generally yeah we'll send in a bit of a moan it's from jamie as you said oh here we go oh i'm gonna turn it off i'm quite drunk ladies my complaint of the week from your boyfriend Sophie
Starting point is 00:27:27 is why is it when I have a complaint or a problem or an issue about something
Starting point is 00:27:35 that's happened and I complain about it or get cross about it does Sophie get cross back she can't just take it
Starting point is 00:27:43 she can't just say oh sorry I made a mistake she has to get cross back that is my complaint you take it. She can't just say, oh, sorry, I made a mistake. She has to get crossed back. That is my complaint. You're a bit of a stubborn one, aren't you? No, God, excuse with me. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I feel like I'm under attack. I feel like I'm under attack, so I fight back. My defence is, rah, back. And it needs to stop. And I go into the bathroom ten minutes later, and I'm like... Oh, I see. I'm actually very un-stubborn. I'm terrible I'm terrible I am like you know what I'm so sorry I do that after like 20 minutes no I'm straight away I'm like shit no you're right I'm really
Starting point is 00:28:14 sorry and so is Harry oh god why are you so good I never used to be like that I used to be like that I think it depends on like maybe how it's approached yeah it's how it's approached if jamie's like oh my god you've got and i'm like i feel like i'm attacked because i feel like i've done something so terrible what to give me an example well like i've agreed for him to do something you know without telling him and then two weeks late i say oh by the way you were meant to do this and he's like well you never told me and now I look really unprofessional and irresponsible you know because I've not told him like oh shit yeah my bad no what I'm so confused I can't it's really to do with like posts and stuff it's to do
Starting point is 00:28:56 with work it's to do with work I can't divulge into it too much okay so so let's talk about maybe you've been I basically don't don't miscommunicate with him. I don't communicate full stop. And then I expect him to know what's happening. He's like, I don't know what's happening. I'm like, well... You should be able to read my fucking mind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And then when I'm like, shit, I've really messed up. I just am like, I lie. And I just go, you agreed to it. Sophie, that's terrible. No, I'm joking. I really don't. No, she's like,'s gonna watch this oh god no I I am terrible and I do need to change that I think it is because I feel attacked I feel
Starting point is 00:29:31 I'm almost irritated at myself so it's I think everyone has that vibe of being like it's just like natural to have a bit of a yeah you fight back and then you sort of sit on it and you're like... You know what, but then do you have the gumption to actually go back and be like, you know what, do you want me to stop you? No, I do. I do. Okay, good. It's when people are stubborn, it then goes really wrong. It's harder.
Starting point is 00:29:56 No, but Jamie is very interesting because he's like, no, it's fine, walk under the bridge. You've apologised, whatever, and I'll apologise. Two hours later, he goes off, comes back and he's like's like in a mood in a mood and catty towards me like oh not dropped yet have you still lingering isn't it because he said it's okay but i'm like you okay you sure we're fine he's like yes so sweet so sweet i can imagine him saying that I can hear the words coming out of his mouth I'm like are we really though he openly pronounces the T's sweet
Starting point is 00:30:27 any sometimes oh only when he's pretending that he's sweet with you but he's not only when it's a lie oh my god that's too funny
Starting point is 00:30:35 god I feel really quite trapped oh oh my god so okay so what have we learnt from that complaint we've learnt that I need to
Starting point is 00:30:46 firstly own my wrongdoings more so and I need to be less stubborn I don't think you're not I don't think you're too stubborn I think you're fine but just be less I just need to psych own up like I need to instead of approaching him being like shit this is happening why haven't you done I need to be like I've messed up this has happened just so to let you know and when he's like annoyed I basically need to take the hair just just just own it take the hair I'm very bad at taking the hair I don't like getting told off do you I don't like getting told off but like I think it feels so much better when you own it and you're like oh my god you're right why have i done this and then they automatically go you know what it's okay yeah you're we can do x y and z to fix this and then you become back on the same team almost to try and help the situation but when you're like
Starting point is 00:31:35 no i'm not wrong and then it's like but you are and you like it's almost like you're then you're not it's weird you're so right it's all about being a team it's difficult isn't it it's all about communication and being a team and when you've got that solid that's why I think
Starting point is 00:31:50 you and Harry literally never fight they're like annoyingly perfect at this no it's just because if I do something also myself
Starting point is 00:31:57 I'm always like oh my god I'm such an idiot why have I done this straight away yeah I'm such an idiot a lot of the time like I'm I really am no you're not I do terrible things and I think what on earth have you agreed it's
Starting point is 00:32:11 just silly little things every now and then yeah they're very silly they're not terrible I do terrible no but I am just really really mindless sometimes I think it's just owning it like as soon as you do it and then it's just squashed and it's not even the thing otherwise they can snowball and get out of hand yeah you're so right i'm learning something you're being my sister melissa forgives you yeah um right okay so guys we didn't actually do this last week and i feel like we've got to incorporate it into every podcast but i do feel like we've got to rate the wine it's only fair okay yeah good idea I feel like we've finished nearly half of it now I'm like slurring my words which is so embarrassing I know I'm terrible it's
Starting point is 00:32:56 because I'm allergic I'm telling you now I'm allergic I'm allergic um we definitely taste tested it and I feel like we should rate it and I feel like first thing we should discuss what notes and flavours we think are in it. Okay, right. Okay. I'm going to have to pour myself another glass. Oh, a slosh here. Do you want some more? No, she's drunk already.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Too drunk. What's wrong with me? It's because I'm allergic. Okay, wait. Stop playing on the allergy card. You are not allergic. I've drunk so much wine with you and you've been fine! Okay, right. What notes and flavours do you taste?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Oh. I don't know, it's quite hard. Okay. I'm not getting a fruity vibe. Wait, hang on. Shh. Oh, tangy. She just looks at me, guys, and she goes, tangy. Oh my god, it's like on the tip of my tongue. To me it's very, it's not, it's quite dry. I think it's really dry. Yeah, okay, I'm glad.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I thought you were going to be like, I think it's really fruity. No, but I think it's meant to be really fruity. He said to me it was really fruity. It's very light. It's not fruity to me whatsoever. These aren't the notes, because we're going to have to read the back. They aren't the notes. But to me, that's a very light, very drinkable, dry wine.
Starting point is 00:34:10 It is. Not sickly, not sweet. It's a lovely wine. It's a lovely wine. No, first of all, what is the name of the... Gavi. No, but the brand of the wine, I can't... Oh, Broglia.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Okay, wait. We've got to finish this a finish excellent pronunciation is it worth the price it's not a good value for money hmm i'm gonna actually go ahead and be really bold and say no for what we're doing no because we don't appreciate it that much yeah i don't mean to say either like if i paid that in ration it would be pretty spanny wouldn't it oh my gosh i feel like maybe you'd be knocking on 70 pounds yeah i think yeah so i'm gonna go ahead and say no only because we don't appreciate it i'm sure if we were to try this against a lot of other wines we would then be like okay yeah i can understand how lovely it is but for something like this i'm not gonna pay 24 quid just to have
Starting point is 00:35:01 a glass of one of my friend you tell me if you think that that is worth the money let me have another sip have another sip no because your wine last week was just nice that was 10 pounds cheaper yeah yeah but it wasn't as like flavor some it was more like icy cold you can tell it's that's like real rich and i also i also think it's different when you're trying wines next to one another so if we were to try the two and compare yeah maybe we would appreciate it more. But for what we're doing right now, sitting down, just having like a nice glass of wine, two girls, I don't think it's totally worth £24. I do agree with you on that.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Yeah, you could get a nice bottle of whatever, like Whispering Angel for £19. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I feel you. Okay. Overall rating, I give it a seven. I don't give it. Oh yeah, so do I. Yeah, I give it a seven. I like it there. Oh, yeah, so do I. Yeah, I give it a seven.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, I'd give it a seven or eight. It's like a really... Not an eight. No, it's really up there. It's a lovely wine. But would you pay that much for it to have the same type of appreciation? No, I'd settle for a six. Stop.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Yeah, well, so would you. You just said that. Because you've just said that you... No, but I think the wine last week, I would probably give it about an 8 as well I'd be like god that's lovely yeah but that was so light and like almost tasted
Starting point is 00:36:09 like icy cold water with the taint yeah it's funny whereas this is like rich rich wine this is purely just on flavour feels very alcoholic as well purely on
Starting point is 00:36:17 let's go purely on the taste I'm gonna go 7 slash 8 it's really lovely yeah I'm gonna go 7 cheers your empty glass because you've been drinking do you know what i like in a red Shiraz or Pinot Noir i think that's quite funny so i think next week we try cheaper wine and see yeah let's we can and don't tell me it's
Starting point is 00:36:39 your time yeah it's my choice don't tell me how much it is let's see if I can notice interesting take a guess at the prize oh well we've come to the end of the podcast once again I'm quite tipped we need to like I'm quite sad
Starting point is 00:36:53 I want to keep going and talking about your best dilemmas they're so great maybe we can not only great as in like they're so good to like discuss and chat about it makes me feel like
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'm so not alone with like all the things that have happened to me I'm like oh god thank god I know it'd be really all and I also feel like girls just have gone like if a boy were to go through those sort of situations like would they even like reference it to a boy because it wouldn't even be a big deal to them that's funny isn't it I was just thinking maybe like it'd go straight over the head yeah like so black and white no you can't sleep
Starting point is 00:37:25 shower or bedroom with a boy have you seen that Friends clip where Rachel and Ross kiss the first time and she's banging on about every detail
Starting point is 00:37:33 and he just goes did you kiss with tongues yeah that's all they say like for boys everything is just so different and simple
Starting point is 00:37:39 yeah it's funny I'd love to live in their brain yeah just see with so much more fun facts but guys. We're so much more compact. But guys, thank you so, so much for listening. Yes, thank you for listening.
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