Wednesdays - Ep 21: Group Holiday Disasters!

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

Hey guys, We’ve missed you! Welcome back to another ep! This week we discuss your worst holiday dramas. Are they all really a recipe for disaster? Wowee, let’s just say, we had some absolute shockers...we NEED some follow ups for next week please!This week the wine was Olivier Dubois 'Cuvée Prestige' Pinot Noir:https://www.majestic.co.uk/wines/olivier-dubois-vdf-pinot-noir-05053Melissa’s rating: 6.5/7Sophie rated her watermelon margarita: 9.5 !!Have a lovely week gang, S & M x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca please play responsibly hey guys it's sophie here i'm melissa and welcome to our new podcast wednesdays we drink wine hey guys hey guys we're still not together oh we were last week we were together oh no we weren't it's because we've seen each other since no we weren't but we see we saw each other like the day after so it feels like we've done a podcast but we haven't i'm actually abroad so jealous which is why we were laughing because jamie keeps walking around in the background naked he's always like you know i go even sometimes when i go into your house it's just mincing about in his boxes and i'm like oh he blood it's like a really really odd thing like he loves i know is it just more comfortable we've actually had this conversation before

haven't we about how even if he's chilling on the sofa he's at his most comfortable and he's just wearing nothing yeah yeah yeah yeah 100 i have to be in cozy clothes like i'd have to be wearing something i'm cold same i like all skin covered yeah oh like oh god i can't even like do you sleep naked no oh yeah i do but i always normally always have like pants on but that's it otherwise i just get too hot no i don't wear a top i get too hot i wake up at the end of the night hot yeah i usually wear like full-on long johns no you didn't yes i'd have socks and tuck them in no you know yeah when the trouser like the pajama trouser wrinkles up your leg yeah yeah yeah worse oh my god because your skin wasn't covered did you know i'm over that i'm over that phase now. I get way too hot.

I think it's sleeping in a bed with a boy. When you're solo, like, a little draft really does go a long way. No, because, because, whenever I, like, like on a Sunday afternoon or something, if I'll have a nap, I wake up hot. And I'm like, oh. I love, Melissa has naps all the time, guys. Like, I just, I just don't understand it. Like, I'm abroad today.

I tried about three times to have a nap my eyes just go bing straight back in can't do it can't sometimes I wish I was like I was like that so I wouldn't nap and like waste like an hour of my day but sometimes on a Sunday like after a Sunday lunch I'm like I just need a little nap in front of the TV I would love it but I like wake up so early i'm just like i don't think i'm a very good sleeper no either you are you aren't i'm very good sleeper i mean you know i am should we talk about our yeah yeah yeah so we're actually straying a little bit from our wine well you are because i saw that there was a watermelon margarita on the cocktail list at the hotel and i was like i was like i can't do that so i actually

got two in front of me just do you well i just had what what if i run out yeah yeah to be fair it looks a bit like a slushy it's yeah because it's proper watermelon juice there's no sugar so basically like quite healthy yeah yeah it's like a detox drink. Oh, lovely. And Melissa's got a really nice Pinot. I haven't been in a while. I'm not going to lie. It's half empty. It's half gone, basically.

I don't know why I'm showing you because you can't see it. But it's from my sister. My sister had her 30th birthday, which was, like, a year late, bless her. And we had quite a lot of wine left over. So I was just like, oh, I'll take that. Thank you very much. So did you just take it from the party? No, me and my sister went to collect the bits the next day from the venue.

Where was it? It was on a boat. No, going through London, the Thames, and it was like the last day. It was so hot that last Saturday, like a couple of weeks ago. It was amazing. She was so lucky.

Then went to Henley Regatta the next day. It was over that week. Oh my God, you've had such a lovely little time. I didn't even know you did that. There was not very much social activity regarding it. No, there wasn't. I just wanted to enjoy the moment. But there was a couple of pictures of like London Bridge.

It was actually really nice. Like I think because the whole top deck was open, we could see like London Eye so close and like House of Parliament. It was actually like really cool seeing it from the riverside. I think I've been on that boat. It was called the Edwardian, I think. I think that's quite a few. What would you do for for your 30th this is what i keep thinking in my mind 30th i don't i don't know i don't think i do much you know what's annoying about my birthday because

it's in december i'm kind of like every like it's christmas in new year it's just too much it's quite a good month yeah you're okay like it's just it's not too cold no because when it's too cold who wants to go out i know and it's just before christmas so i get like double whammy and i can also get like but you're not too close to christmas in the sense that you're like approaching party season so it's like everyone's keen for it but i feel like mine's like right so that it's in the middle of like well it's christmas month isn't it january january so what's my brother's jan that's just 11th of january yeah no thanks also guys our theme which is actually very very fitting is holiday dilemmas and i am actually oh you're on holiday but you're

not on a group i did actually have a bit of a dilemma this morning it's quite it's not that pleasant but i had the worst stomach i've ever had and i was on the flight and i oh no on the flight that's the worst thing ever because you can't get out oh it was just terrible firstly my flight was i had to wake up at 5 a.m oh i don't i don't mind those ones don't mind no no no thanks i'm like half asleep do you have a coffee or do you not like wait till you get on the plane just sleep in the car and sleep on the plane you're fine because you just sleep the whole time i don't i'm like oh god okay so you've already had an early start you haven't had a good time i've already had a terrible night sleep so i was going to the bathroom the whole night oh no yeah yeah terrible oh shizer so you

had it before you went then i get on the plane then i board the plane i'm like this is over i feel fine now thank god it's done obviously ate something real dodged last night not sure what jamie got a fluff or i'm blaming it on that don't order from that place and then mid-flight i was oh no and i kept having to walk up and down the loo and everyone was obviously thinking i'm like you can't you can't relax because there's a queue of people outside you so then it was just like a oh you can't just get to the loo and be like right i can take my time it's okay i'm in a safe space i can do my thing get myself better because you know there's people outside and there's not like there's a second loo they can go in just one loo so then i started walking to the other loo i'd like go even though yeah yeah yeah yeah i was like gotta mix it up because like everyone's oh my god bless your heart

that's the worst place to have terrible and then as I closed my eyes I was like I've got to just try and sleep because then I'll just sleep until we land it does make you feel quite well sometimes yeah I suddenly got this vision like imagine the cramps were that bad I was like imagine if I'm pregnant and I'm just gonna have one of those like horror stories where they just give birth I'm sure I'm pretty sure you would know if you're pregnant and about to give birth no No, no, I remember reading about that at school. We did a full-on salad bath. Yeah, but surely you would have, like, a full-on belly. You wouldn't just give birth.

No, she didn't. She gave birth in the loo. She thought she needed a big share. She squeezed and out came a baby. Well, anyway, those thoughts were going through my head and I started, I was thinking, I was freaking the hell out. Jesus. We're all in the clear now. I'm here with my watermelon margarita started, I was thinking, I was freaking the hell out. Jesus. We're all in the clear now. I'm here with my watermelon margarita.

She's having some alcohol just to kind of make herself recover her body a little bit. Best thing for you, that is. Bit of rehydration. My hydrating, to be fair. Oh, yeah, the watermelon will get, you know, put some electrolytes back into the system. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My Pinot Noir's really nice. What's the name? Pinot Noir, remember, is the one that you can have cold, chilled. Dubois? Dubois? Olivier? Dubois. Yeah.

Anyway, it's lovely. S'ouvre Prestige. I don't know. I don't think they've got any tequila in this. Like, it literally just tastes like watermelon juice. It's lovely. Lovely. Lovely Pinot Noir.

Okay. We've got some other bits and bobs to talk about, which I'm actually really okay we've got a follow-up which is always our favorite oh my god let's do the follow-up first because i'm really excited about that okay well you read it okay okay okay do you remember who this girl was i do so this guys so this girl um fell in love with her best friend and they'd kissed like a couple times right but she wasn't sure whether to bring it up or not with him because she was like i really like him but i don't know whether to move on don't know what to say anything and our advice was either you say something and just like look i can't even remember what we said specifically i feel like we gave several bits of advice to that but we gave yeah we gave loads of

options yeah so anyway she's followed up hey girls just listen to the podcast again thank you so much for reading out my dilemma for a bit of a follow-up we had our first kiss sober on sunday and it felt great oh that is so exciting but later on he was talking casually to me and his friends about not really wanting a relationship with anyone for a good while all our mutual friends say they can see the chemistry and tell we both fancy each other and we talk about each other all the time but now i feel even more confused i'm going to take your advice and just go with the flow and see what happens thanks girls oh god so he's kissed you soberly which is confusing me because i'm like what does that mean what does it mean also how did he's double bluffing her maybe he's been like saying it

publicly like i don't really want a relationship because he wants her to sort of be the one to initiate something remember i told you boys aren't as confident maybe as one would think but if they're kissing like surely he'd be like i don't know i i think i think you're right to go with the flow it feels like he obviously does like you. Like, it's obvious. Like, he's talking about you and, like, even your friends and his friends are saying, like, it's obvious. You know? Yeah. And you've had a kiss so bad.

We told her to, we did tell you. To tell him. To pay it by ear, just be chill. So, I like that you're obviously following that. I kind of still stand by that. Because what can you do? Be like, what? Why not?

You don't want a relationship. Like, also, sometimes you don't want a relationship? Like, also, sometimes you don't want a relationship and then you just fall in love and it happens. Very true. So that could be the case. Very true.

No planning. You can't plan who you fall in love with. It's quite exciting that they've had another kiss sober. I feel like that says a lot. Yeah. How was the kiss?

Step in the right direction. I can't actually, like, remember, like, my first sober kiss. Do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like by that point there was a lot of drunken kissing going on. What, dating in the beginning, you mean? Yeah.

I'm trying to think about how my first sober kiss. I'm sure there was quite a few, but there was nothing that really significant. Like, oh, our first kiss because I was drunk when that happened. I know what you mean, the first couple of times. So, yeah, nothing's really standing out to me it's like a specific memory but I guess at that point when you're dating quite a lot you're kissing all the time honestly you kiss so much in the beginning of dating so much Jamie loves it now like he yeah I'm like oh get off me you ruined my makeup I've just put my lip liner it is that it does ruin my makeup and it just annoys me

like sometimes I have fake tan on my face and like the slobber like do you do you really mean like I'll end up with like a white moustache

as I say oh my god no I'm joking I love kissing really oh I love it I love it um yeah can we just

touch on the Love Island final just real quick go on Tawi because it has first of all Hugo follows us both so

we need to get Hugo on the pod guys we need to get him on the pod get his opinion on some dilemmas I feel like he'd be quite good

he's really handsome I think he's gorgeous and also apparently he's actually a bit of a bit of a player in the real life who did you hear this from some some people i know

went to uni with him and they were like no he's honestly got so many girls i think oxford brooks yeah and they were like god he doesn't have a trouble getting girls at all he's constantly getting the women so which i'm not surprised he's really good he's really good looking and i think he's actually probably quite charming but like in that situation I feel like there's no alcohol involved and it's all very like difficult because I think it's obviously produced like it's dating isn't it on Love Island so different how was Hugo with Melissa yeah tell us how no I don't you know I think he's lovely but I definitely don't fancy him he's not for me thinks he's lovely and apparently give us some best Give us some inside gas. In the real world.

No. Jamie said no. Jamie said no to you. I couldn't even hear what you were saying. He gets jealous.

Oh. No, okay, yeah, Hugo's not fit. Oh my god, guys, I'm sorry, Jamie's really distracted. I wish you guys could see what

Jamie does in the background. It makes it quite entertaining. I wish. I mean, he's like the babe I wish you guys could see what Jamie does in the background. It makes it quite entertaining. I mean, he's like the babe in the city. If I actually see him, I'll try and do a little viddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going for a bath now.

I mean, it's 4.30. He's going for a bath. It's hot. He loves a bath. It's his favourite thing. He watches, like, baseball in the bath. It's his favourite. Peanuts on the side.

Oh, my God. An old man habit that was so funny the peanuts is what's killing me right should we move on to some dilemmas let's move on

hey girls absolutely love the podcast hopefully this one will make it as in like she hopes that this is the dilemma that we read

wow you're in luck honey so I've been friends with the same group of girls for at least ten years. We booked a holiday to Turkey. We were super excited to go. One of the girls going had been acting very distant for a little

while with us. Her and her boyfriend spend a lot of time together, so we assumed she was busy with him. All of a sudden, she pulled out of the holiday for no real reason and has been quite blunt about it. What the hell? Giving us no explanation other than she didn't want to come anymore. All of a sudden, she pulled out of the holiday for no real reason and has been quite blunt about it. Oh. Blout it. What the hell?

Giving us no explanation other than she didn't want to come anymore. Oh. We were paying in four installments to make things more manageable. It was put in our group chat, which we... What each person had to pay left. Uh-oh. We assumed our friend would still pay her final payment... Of course.

...because she committed to it when we booked it. Absolutely. Instead, she sent us a message saying she refused to pay the final balance and we would have to cover it. No, no. Unacceptable. What? We were so shocked with this as she hadn't even put us in mind.

She just demanded we pay it. We would have understood if she could no longer come because of an illness or something like that. Yeah, fair enough. But it seemed it was just because she didn't want to come anymore or want to be our friend. Oh. We could have paid in full at the beginning but wanted to do things more affordable. Does this mean people should be able to drop out and not pay their remaining? Were we unfair to ask for a final payment?

Would love to hear your views. No. Absolutely not. Really awkward. She should. But mate, you've got to pay. A hundred percent pay. The fact that she's just demanded.

Or say like just really bum out to drop out at the last moment. Yeah but as she said like if you do drop out at the last minute and there's a legitimate excuse that's totally fine but you would still

offer to pay your half. You don't just then turn around and be like oh actually I don't want to come. You're paying for me. It doesn't work like that. She's paid quite a lot of it.

She's paid three installments. Like just go. Like what's changed? Yeah I know something's going on with her. Anyway you know what I'm going to say it's her loss i know something's going on with her anyway you

know i'm gonna say it's her loss she doesn't want to be friends with you because obviously you're great and she just sounds i'm talking sounds fine yeah whatever and you know what she should pay but she's not going to don't let it dampen your holiday hopefully like all the rest of you can like come together to pay her last little bit and just enjoy yourselves that is what yeah i would do post loads of social media stories of you having fun no i'm joking take the higher road take the higher road and yeah just don't let that dampen the mood if she doesn't pay then i wouldn't let it like be a problem because if she has paid three installments hopefully there's only a little bit left and then all of you can split the rest and just choose to have a really

good time don't let it worry you don't let it ruin the holiday because, you know, it's her loss. But you should all push for her to pay because that's really outrageous. Really outrageous. I agree. Definitely push for her to pay. But if she's being stubborn about it, she kind of, I feel like she's kind of, girl, we'll just be like, no, I'm not going to. Yeah, she's obviously.

Well, she's going to write off your friendship with her forever as well, which is just ridiculous. And also such a shame, but I agree. Like, just focus on, like, we've all had such a hectic year. No-one's been able to go on holiday, so really, really don't let this dampen the mood. Yeah, don't let it, like, ruin your girls' fun. But you're totally within your rights to be asking for her to pay. I would, OK, personally, if I was in your position,

I would send her, I would try and call her because everything gets misread over text you can't ever tell people's tone or try and meet up with her and I would just explain and be like I told like fair enough if you don't want to come it's obviously such a shame I feel like you know but I like we you know, but I like we, you know, unfortunately, we don't really have the money. Like this is the agreement. I'm like, I get that you obviously don't want to pay because you're not going. But just explain it. But I think meeting up and doing things in person is always key.

Because things get misread over text. It's just, it's really like pissing me off a bit, actually. Like the cheek of it. I just. Yeah, really last minute last it's really like not nice and like the fact that she's just demanding for you to pay her last bit also like it should be her responsibility if she can to try and get a refund if she can for her bit like I don't know what it is I'm guessing it's like the hotel or whatever she should be like okay like I actually

can't travel because of covid is it possible for me to have a refund or whatever for that last installment that she needs to pay? But it sounds like one of you has paid up front for everything. And then the rest of you are paying it back in installments. Because I don't know how else you would have done that. But it's her responsibility. Completely. It's not up to you guys. It's her choice not to come.

And she needs to commit to what she's committed to paying wise because it's not fair for it to fall on all of you so as sophie said i guess give her a call i would also weirdly maybe take the route of speaking to the boyfriend and be like we've tried really hard but like i'm not sure what's going on oh god no i wouldn't i would creating world war z there world war z world war three I would. I would. Creating World War Z there. World War Z? World War III. World War Z? I don't know why. Like,

World Z? I don't know. I'm just trying to understand what friend. Do not go and talk to the boyfriend. No, no, no. What friend would I have that would turn around?

Like, I just don't know anyone that would do that sort of thing. Like, it's so strange. There must be something else going on with her, like,

behind the scenes. No, she's probably just thought, fuck it, I don't really want to come. I rather go and hold it with my boyfriend on the same dates she obviously just like one of those girls who just you know i guess in a sense is a bit selfish yeah and it's like that's what i want to do not really thinking of how it's going to affect other people so i feel like if you spoke to the boyfriend she'd only react selfishly and be like oh my god you're definitely not doing it right yeah

I think the best thing is be mature ask to meet up with her and lay all the cards on the table and I think you should all do it as well because I feel like if she's got three of you saying like guys we really can't afford it no I don't think so I think it's really unfair that she's just turned around and said I expect you to pay I don't think it's unreasonable

for all of you to be like, look, we actually, we understand you don't want to come now, but we actually can't afford it. Is it okay if you pay your last bit? Yeah, fair enough. And just do it in a really nice way. I guess it shouldn't really fall on your feet either to be like the better.

No, and also try to tread on eggshells to try and get money out of her. I should pay her half. I don't think it's fair. God, this is really well, Melissa. Sorry, it really has. It is pretty. It'sness is one of my most irritating traits of people and stubbornness i don't really like either moving on moving on i recognize this girl either we've done a

dynamic of her before or i've chatted to her before on instagram or something i recognize her like instagram picture do you oh cute no okay girls holiday drama please keep this anonymous so basically went to ayia napa with a group of girls i had been besties for with five years we get there and they are all almost all flirting with other guys oh i was the only single one oh shudder okay wow but i kept their secrets and then they were leaving me out and giggling behind my back being very childish that's not nice then one night out they they were talking to a group of older guys and all ran off and left me by myself i lost my cool and completely went mental having a go at them and the next morning i suggested we all forget forgave forgive and forget but they all completely ignored me like i didn't exist this is just hot this is billy oh my god no so i got the plane home by

myself three days no no i've got three days early Been three years and I haven't seen or heard from any of them since. Did I overreact? Whoa, this was three years ago. Oh my God. Did I overreact or did I do the right thing? No, no, no. This is really... That's actually giving me goosebumps.

This is full on bullying. Girls can be horrible, can't they? Girls can be absolute bitches. Oh no, firstly, you didn't do... You didn't do anything wrong. There's no right or wrong thing to do because to be honest they were the people in the wrong so however you reacted was just like a natural reaction like you know if you weren't mental and screamed at them so i would go

barking mad if my friends all left me in a different country especially yeah same especially in iron and you're on a girl's holiday like jesus this is the thing this is another thing it's like when i've had so many well i haven't actually but like girls holidays or like girls let's have a girl's night out and then it all becomes about like where are the boys yeah who are the boys live that boy group over there and you're like actually no this is not what i signed up for boys night out it turns into that as well every time i swear as well there's always like girls knocking about on a boys night out and i'm like uh hello what have you been knocking about on loads of boys nights out what do you mean no no i've turned up like late to the boys night out and then there's girls there and i'm like well this is definitely yeah but that's

because boys like literally only go out to shower girls whereas guys go out to have fun and enjoy their own company with their friends yeah this is not good there's so many things wrong with this firstly obviously these girls are not being loyal to their boyfriends when i was first starting to read this i was expecting her to be like i was the one in a relationship and they were all single so it was difficult yeah yeah but it's not the way around which is just so weird maybe they were jealous because you were single and they were like oh my god she's gonna get all the boy attention so they like singled you out in that way i don't know i don't know what's going on

with these girls but that's just so mean it's it's like verging on bullying especially the fact that you then had to get a flight home and the fact that you haven't heard from me for years like not one of them has reached out to be like god are you did you reach out i need follow up on this piece did you ever reach out to them i wouldn't because to be honest like you learn you did you reach out i need follow up on this piece did you ever reach out to them i wouldn't because to be honest like you learn you do learn people's true colors when you're on holiday and like if you live with somebody like spending that length of time with somebody you always get to know what they're really like yeah obviously obviously not nice girls i would probably say there's a lot of jealousy going on i mean i don't know the dynamics i need a bit more

info but on based on your question i don't think you did the wrong thing at all and i'm really sorry that you had to go through that because that is horrible they were besties for five years like this is a madness to me reading this yeah this is really awful god anyway you know what good riddance it sounds like you don't want to be friends with people like that anyway the fact that they would just leave you i just cannot do that deal with that even in london if my friends did that to me like let alone being in a foreign land you know so bad yeah if my friends left me in a club in london oh i would lose my rag let alone in a foreign i would yeah i'd i would feel actually quite scared in a foreign country.

Oh, my God, so would I. I'd be bloody petrified. I get so scared about going on Ubers by myself, which is pathetic, but, like, imagine trying to get home by yourself in a foreign country. Yeah, late at night is quite scary. It's not a good idea.

I think it's very irresponsible and really nasty of them. Don't I? Yeah, and my... I stand by you in this. really don't think I don't think it's a good thing that you didn't come back and have conversations about it because to be quite honest like they shared their true colors and they're not really friends that you want to have in your life I'm surprised that not one of them at least was like then speaking to you the next day the fact they ignored you the next day like you've 100% made the right decision just to take yourself out of the situation to be like you know what good

riddance like I don't want to be friends with you girls anyway I think it was a good idea it's really confusing like how girls can be so mean like if I was in that situation I and one of the girls was like getting ignored or someone's being mean I just couldn't imagine like letting one of my friends fly back three days early it's just i know like i don't i just i'm completely that is a really that is a actually do you know what the time you go to is when you're like 18 and there's no real excuse to like hormones flying about then because there is like a real bitchy stage in teenage years you know like when hormones are literally flying about but that's not an excuse but 18 like come on yeah it's not okay sort yourself out i think it's just me i feel so bad

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Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. Please play responsibly. Okay, we've got another one that's a cliquey girl. Please play responsibly. bitchy right hi girls loving the podcast here is my girl's holiday dilemma so we've just finished our third year at university at my uni house of five girls went on a summer holiday to our friend's house in spain we all got on super well and i was really looking forward to the holiday however when we arrived two of the girls decided to only spend time with one another what is wrong with these girls? Guys, seriously. From reserving seats at restaurants and sunbeds next to each other to walking

100 metres behind everyone else and effectively only talking to one another. This really affected the vibe of the whole holiday and left the remaining three of us completely isolated including the person whose house we were staying at. We tried the whole week not to let this affect our trip but on the

last night after a few drinks and more neglecting us from their conversations in the restaurants i lost it with them and told them how rude and exclusive they've been on holiday i had an apology from one of them and not the other so what would your advice be on how to move forward with that okay i think you've done the right thing and it obviously sounds like it's one of the girls has apologized and obviously realized what's been going on. They might have been quite oblivious. Yeah, sometimes you do just like, I do find myself sometimes nattering to one of my friends the whole time.

And then I'm like, whoops, I've only been, you know. But yeah, I totally agree. It does affect the vibe. What would you do, Melissa, moving forward? I would probably personally just not. I'd wait for her to come to me you said your piece and like you've not done anything wrong one of them's apologized so I feel like now that one is obviously gonna probably say to the other girl like come on like we were obviously in the wrong because I don't feel like the girl would apologize if she didn't believe yeah that she'd like upset you guys and

she probably didn't even notice what she was doing so you know what's funny like I do think that when there's like a foreign land involved certain people just kind of stick together and I'm not sure if it's almost like a psychological survival thing where it's like I'm not in my like comfortable normal environment so I just have to stick with this person that I know to kind of like I don't know or it's more like you know when you spend a lot of time with somebody like you may all get along together like on a daily basis but there are certain people that you can't spend like a week with or you can't live with for example but then some people you could spend every single second with yeah so perhaps it's like one of those things but I agree it does it does ruin the vibe like no one wants that especially when they're walking

reserving seats next to each other like no that's a bit weird like all right if you don't like get involved the rest yeah i'd find it a bit offensive i would probably say things along the way like if they did that i'd be like oh nice for you to include us in that yeah yeah i'd be like guys why are you then they'd probably be like oh fuck oh then they'd be like oh well obviously not because one of them hasn't said anything but my advice to you is i would i would wait for her to come to you and i would just focus on the friends the other group because there's obviously because it sounds like they're all you're the majority they're the minority exactly you know if they if they like going off together leave them to it and don't let it affect you and

again you've got the other two girls like have fun with them like yeah just live your best life with them don't let it like over like overshadow like the fun that you could potentially having because you're so concentrated on the fact that they're doing their own thing which will just ultimately mean you have a less good time than you should don't let that them affect how much fun you're having yeah and i guess when you're back in england it probably or wherever you're from i guess it hopefully won't affect i get on a holiday like really is quite noticeable by yeah okay when you're back more normal it'll just and maybe you just have to let let something like that slide yeah just yeah i would i would let

it slide i feel like you said your piece they They know how you feel about it. One of them said sorry. So I feel like you've got majority, as Sophie said, like not on your side, but like in agreement with you. And understanding. Yeah. So yeah, I think just let it slide. See what happens when you come back to England. And if she's decided that it's too awkward for her, then. Hopefully not.

There's always tits and tats on like girls holidays I think there's a lot of like you know not everyone wants to do the same thing yeah yeah it's very true have you ever had a girl's holiday I have but I've never had any issues like that trying to think if I have I did do um well I can't remember but we definitely did one of those like clubbing places when we broke up from school. And I do feel like there was quite a vibe. I was in a relationship, but I do think there was a massive divide between, like, boyfriends and single and non-single.

Which I understand. I just found it really gross. I hated every minute of it. I was literally counting the days that I got home. Oh, my God, really? Where did you go? I think we went to Malia or Magaluf or one of the places. Where was Malia?

I can't... Greece? Kavos? We went to one of or Magaluf or one of the places. Where was Malia? I can't, Greece? Kavos? We went to one of them. I know Zante's one that, like, is another one of those. I actually think I might have booked a flight home, Ernie. I hated it. Really?

Like, I, from the minute, oh, my God, this is so funny. My friend, she got, she got mixed up her suitcase and so for the whole trip she had someone else's suitcase and someone else had hers and then on like day four they managed to track each other down anyway she opened it up but it was just saris and

Harry Styles t-shirts so she noticed definitely not her oh my god the other girl must have been absolutely mortified probably not because she would have just had bikinis and dresses to her like shit like i can't wear this at well my god oh my god that's just a nightmare oh my god well that's good they tracked each other down what did she wear did she borrow your stuff i can't i think she must have borrowed my stuff i mean you barely wore anything ever i swear everyone went out in like bikinis and hot pants like it's oh my god harry told me when he went on a boy's holiday i actually think it was to my belief and his suitcase got lost and he was 17 he was like imagine how small i was at 17

he was like so short so skinny like nothing fitted him apart from obviously his own clothes he had to buy i don't know where and he lost his sneakers he had to borrow all of his friends clothes and he was like they were so big on me and the swim trunks were like and so long like you can imagine this is like this skinny tiny little thing with these huge like they look like they look like surf shorts like down past his knees oh my god no so sweet and he was like it actually made me have the worst time because I was so unconfident I was like to be fair it's actually incredible how clothes can make you feel so different like if you're wearing a shitty outfit god yeah it affects me so much when I went to remember when I had that new year's and I flew to ski I went skiing with my ex-boyfriend and I

turned up with my my suitcase had gone and they were like wow sorry we're driving up the mountain now so I was like okay I've got no ski kit and New Year's Eve no makeup oh my god like a mixture between like the aunties that the grandma yeah it wasn't fun no that's the worst I actually dealt with that quite well what other things have happened oh my god oh my god oh my god my friend okay this is a dilemma my friend coaxed me into it. Let me give you a bit of background stories. We were about 14. So like, it's quite rude to go on a holiday

with your boyfriend at this point because like you're not meant to be having sex and stuff and parents are like all, you know, on top of that sort of thing. Maybe we were younger. No, we were like 14. Yeah. She coaxed me into this whole thing

that we were going on a group holiday her boyfriend had a house in Portugal we were going with him and his mate who by the way she told was so fit I was single at the time so good looking so cool like the nicest guy out there but I was like god I hope it's not like a sass up double date thing she was like no his brother's gonna be there his girlfriend like it's gonna be a really, really fun time. Right. Turn up. It was, firstly, about four hours into the desert of Portugal.

Like, I've never known anything like it. I felt honestly like I was going to get murdered out there. Oh, my gosh. And then I meet the friend. And we did not get on. Like, we actually hated each other. But he was just not my type. Not your type. OK.

And they just went off and had sex all day oh my god it was the and i i didn't even it was like i was in a horror movie i couldn't even get signal because we were like literally out in the sticks and i just had to wait my time also i got told that we were only going for five days we ended up going for like eight days i was like when am i going home oh no yeah that was bad time scheisse quite savvy of your friend just to get herself a nice little i don't think she quite knew what the friend was like i think when she like met him as well she was like oh scott oh no stuck with him the whole time like we know one of those really overly opinionated people oh no no i hate that very yeah love a debate and i was just like no i really

really don't like that's not for me actually that is not for me at all when my on my girl's holiday that we had in it was in new york but we went to muggle leaf once i think you only need to go once guys so to say it was we had the best time though like so much fun and one of our friends his ex-boyfriends was there and it was an ex it was completely by coincidence he was there on the same night we bumped into him he was an ex that really like broke not broke her heart but like had a bit of an obviously effect and it kind of like ruined her whole night and it was like all a big ordeal and like he was like the type of boy that was bad for her right and like the type of good boy that like your friends like protect you from like no you're not going back with him that kind of vibe like we hate we hate him yeah we hate him kind of vibe and we were like 17 anyway she then like

snuck off with him and was like with him for like an hour and a half like talking about i don't know what like just diving she came back crying we were like fuck this is so annoying and so bad like of all places to bump into someone in a foreign land oh god and it's him that that was the only like hiccup that we had that was like boy related but other than that it was really really really great and i had like the best night in magaluf i honestly saw someone's full on penis he got his penis out okay in this club and he had you know how, guys, if you've ever been to Magaluf,

it's like, bar, bar, bar, bar, bar, tattoo parlor. Bar,

bar, bar, bar, bar. And these tattoo parlors are like, apparently the ink they use, you cannot ever laser that shit off. It's not like,

legit. So this guy was hammered, and he whips out his penis, in the club, and he had a huge elephant ears, and elephant mouth, and like, head all above his penis, and obviously his penis in the club and he had a huge elephant ears and elephant mouth and like head all above his penis and obviously his penis was like the elephant trunk oh my god it was so funny because the guy over like the mic that was doing the dj like announced it and pointed him and then they had the light

and it was like the weirdest thing i've ever seen and we all took pictures of it because we thought it was so funny seeing a penis in real life like when it's not your boyfriend's is really weird it's really gross it's really gross and really strange i was like oh my god this is so bizarre there's some funny stories can't wait to book my flight to magpie you guys it stinks of vomit and your feet stick to the floor because it's like beer and vomit mixed together yeah like pizzas on the road i made friends i made real good pals with like this pizza vendor because i'd go there on the end of the night on my own and be like yeah going for one night is all i needed i wouldn't go oh my god do you remember there

used to be like phone parties yeah in that bcm place jamie honestly he's ordered more peanuts i'm honestly no he hasn't no guys he's in the hotel room loving life okay whinge of the week i actually have one because we've got my dog poppy with us at the moment and my whinge is that harry just keeps freaking giving her titbits from the table and i'm like no you can't do that and he's like yeah but she loves me and i know that he's like, Harry just keeps freaking giving her titbits from the table. And I'm like, no, you can't do that. And he's like, yeah, but she loves me. And I know that he's like trying to like bribe her to like make her love him more. And I'm like, stop that now.

And now she is obsessed with him more. Oh, now you're just jealous. But Poppy, she's kind of old. She's at that age where it's like, just let her go live. Like honestly, when I hit 60, I'm going to eat like a lemon meringue pie for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Like who gives a fuck about what I look like?

Is that your favourite? Lemon meringue pie? Yeah, lemon meringue pie. Like, who gives a fuck about what I look like? Is that your favourite? Lemon meringue pie? Yeah, I love it. I don't think Poppy cares about her physique. Yeah, but you should just be, like, making the last few years of her life. I'm not going to say that because you're probably so great. No, they are great, but I don't want her to be overweight

and then fed not to be at her healthiest. She's doing her prime healthiest right now because she is at that age. She's so cute, guys. You need to follow Melissa. We should create a dog account for Poppy. All right, Jamie wants to go into the week because he's just such an attention seeker's so cute, guys. You need to follow Melissa. We should create a dog account for Poppy. All right, Jamie, what's your winch of the week

because he's just such an attention seeker. Come on, then. Yeah, I'll give you a kick. My winch of the week is... Your hair looks wicked. My winch of the week is... Sophie never does

anything romantic for me. Very true. My winch of the week. I don't think I do anything... Yeah, but does Jamie do anything romantic for you yeah yeah he likes to do things romantic no sorry he's got a charm right here which has the date that we we he asked me to be his girlfriend and on the back it says lamb which

is what we call each other so if that's not romantic i'll eat my hand wait is that wait did you give that to him yeah but on our anniversary he got me the bracelet oh my god no that's really sweet i thought you said you were saying that he got you that and i was like that is so thoughtful see yeah he spends the cash but i do the thoughtful things yeah that's really nice that's such a sweet necklace yes what romantic things does he do what romantic he doesn't mean in like he doesn't mean in like gifts he gifts. He means in, like... No, he just, like, wants a kiss all the time, just constant physical affection. I'm literally, like, do not touch me. I tell it to us boys, though.

Boys are like, oh, can we have... Harry's always like, should we have a little nest? And I'm like... I thought you were going to say, Harry's like, should we go... Melissa's like, Harry's like, should we just have a... Jamie is like that, but it never happens. we just have a genius like that but it never happened should we have a what

you know no no he calls it a mess you know what you guys need to do you know what you guys need to do

you need to watch sex life together now you're in a hotel in a foreign land sex life and it's basically about porn and we'll have some

really good no it's not about porn it's just it's just really fiery good stuff. A real inside bit of knowledge. Maeve from Made in Chelsea said to Miles, and she's got a boyfriend,

this reminds me of sex. I'm basically saying that she dreams of having sex with Miles and his baby. Oh my God! Just genius. God, she says it how it is, doesn't she?

Whoops! Spoiler there, guys. A little spoiler for next season okay should we rate our wine and my cocktail because my cocktail's honestly nine and a half out of ten yeah but you've been she's had two she's on the second she's downing it it looks really nice the color of it's very tropical as well it's not like sugar i don't like sugary cocktails if i saw that walking past i would think that it's like some sex on the beach or something sugary like fake but it's actually fresh if i'm totally honest i actually made it

basically i got a watermelon juice this morning from them which they named detox juice and i said can i just have a bit of tequila in it oh stunning so like i know there's no like added sugar yeah yeah i don't like those sweet ones sorry everyone no neither do i last night i tried my sister's cosmopolitan i wasn't really feeling it have you ever had a cosmopolitan no i don't know what that is what is a cosmopolitan i don't know i think it's like cranberry but it doesn't really taste like cranberry that's like a sex on the beach no no it's not it's very alcoholic and i think it's got gin and another spirit in it tell you what i do like um which is very sweet um what are they called what's that like passion fruity cocktail called porn star martini delicious oh i like the lychee

martini even more oh my god it's a bit sickly for me yeah you can only have one it's a bit thick i could almost have it as dessert like i couldn't have it as like an aperitif it's like oh no too much oh I tell you what I do like oh tell me a Negroni oh

I hate them they're disgusting what is a Negroni it's like basically pouring pure ethanol down your throat no I've never had one of those I don't like

there's Moscow meals and all that shit everyone has like with the egg white Moscow meals are delicious what's wrong with the egg white oh pisco sour yeah yeah don't like that don't like those Moscow meals and all that shit everyone has. Moscow meals are delicious. What's on with the egg white? Oh, pisco sour. Yeah, yeah, don't like that, don't like that.

No. Anyway, okay, coming back to rating this wine. I think I'm going to rate this 6.5 slash 7. It was really lovely, very drinkable. It's just a really lovely Pinot, and I think it's about £9. I'm going to double check because I did actually, like, Google it just to... Okay, £9.99 from Majestic. Not too bad, don't you think no not

bad at all quite like average sort of middle of the road price range i think and the bottle like look at it so it's like quite elegant like a navy blue yeah and also pinot noir is just great because you can have it summer winter whatever you fancy yeah and have it chilled like sophie said quite nice try that try it chilled and let me know what you guys think so we've got a 6.5 from you and a 9.5 at me so if you have a fancy cocktail juice up some watermelon and pop some tequila in it and you're you're stunning good and you can thank me nice little and and unhealthy yeah really healthy maybe put some lime in it it needs a bit of a kick oh does it like a bit of a zesty okay yeah yeah it's a bit bland but nice um anyway that brings us to the end of the podcast guys thank you so much for listening and we will see you next we love you guys

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