Wednesdays - Ep 34: Self-Sabotage Central!

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

Heya guys, back again and on some delicious red wine this week. It went down an absolute treat!This week we’re rating and reviewing celeb's Fashion Awards looks, the best TV shows for settling down ...to in the winter and the weird and wonderful world of icks. Plus…guys, your dilemmas this week were scandalous and we loved them! This week we’re drinking Terre di Faiano Organic Primitivo:https://www.waitrosecellar.com/terre-di-faiano-primitivo-appassime-607989We rate this wine: 5 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:45 Why was that so quiet? Hey everyone. I am delivered. She's back guys. She's back from Barbados. I landed at 8am this morning which is 4am my time so I'm being slightly bizarre. I rate it that you've come back straight away and we've gone straight into a recording. This is our first catch up since Sophie's been back.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Yeah, yeah. All being recorded. Because the time difference, even though it was only four hours we kept missing each other and i had really bad signal whenever i was on the beach by the time you missed our face times i got really upset i was honestly like fourth in i was like sophie i feel like i've lost an arm like this yeah and also every time i walk anywhere i face story anywhere i know so that my routine was completely out of whack i was like oh god i know i was walking and i was like this is really boring i can't facetime so boring so boring so much oh
Starting point is 00:01:32 gosh there really is a delightful wine i thought you were gonna say something else then we do have a delightful one it's organic my fave my fave i actually have had this wine before. It's really nice. Have you? Okay, so it's Terra. Terra? I've heard of this. Terra di Fiano. Terra di Fiano. Organic red wine. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:01:54 It's an Italian red. I've actually got quite into it. That looks like you're going to pour it everywhere. I did feel slightly out of control pouring that. Do you know what I mean? I didn't look very sturdy, did I? I don't feel very sturdy right now. Well, you've had much sleep. No, I've had not.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Oh my God. Guys, neither of us. We're literally literally bored. Oh, stop. We deserve it. It's been a long, long time. Yeah, we really do. I'm literally off to a meeting after this, so that's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Cheers. Cheers. So happy we're back together. Okay, let's do the other thing. Okay, right. Okay. Because we rarely do this. I haven't had this in a long, long time, this wine. So, lovely legs do the proper thing. Because we rarely do this. I haven't had this in a long old time, this wine.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Got some good legs. Lovely legs. Stunning legs. I'm watching her drink it. Come on. Don't get shy. Very drinkable, that one. So drinkable.
Starting point is 00:02:38 No, no, that's very... That's swimmingly, that is. What is that? Okay, go on, do some. I don't think it's too flavoursome. Like, to me, that's just, like, very easy drinking. It's not, like, an overpowering. Or am I completely chatting?
Starting point is 00:02:52 No, it is. It's oaky. Like, nutty. There's not, like, vanilla in that one. Or maybe there is. Like, a little bit of... Cherry, nuts, vanilla. Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Let's read the back. And I can actually vouch. She has not read the back, guys. I've watched her. If I've got that right, there's nuts, vanilla. Okay, right, let's read the back. And I can actually vouch. She has not read the back, guys. I've watched her. If I've got that right, there's a serious skill. Okay, right, so... Deep red colour,
Starting point is 00:03:11 aromas of rich, dark fruit, a silky texture and big, bright, spicy flavours of dark cherries, vanilla and chocolate. They all fucking have the same excuse. No, no, no, I'm sorry, but I don't... I still don't think this is as fabulous
Starting point is 00:03:23 as the one that we had last week. I really... But this one's organic. This is not as. Yeah, this is organic. The other one was so great. Flavoured. It was almost like a dessert. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Whereas this you could drink like with food and it would be like. Yeah, the other one actually would be a bit too sick for you. You are glowing. I'm sorry, this part of Adolf's trip has done you, like I've never seen you so smiley. Let's talk about the wedding. Okay. So just back. Stunning.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Stunning wedding. It was so perfect. The bride's talk about the wedding. Okay. So just back. Stunning. Stunning wedding. It was so perfect. The bride was a bit like. Glowy. Just absolutely dreamy from start to finish. Yeah. Was it really romantic?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Did you cry? I, yeah, well this is the thing because like obviously they're more so Jamie's friends than mine but like every time I've gone,
Starting point is 00:04:01 because all the weddings I've gone to have been his friends. Right. They're obviously older. And I literally cry every time I'm like so emotional so we will be
Starting point is 00:04:10 blood-burning when we go down like I can't tell you how emotional it is oh my god and like it's so sweet like the bride oh no
Starting point is 00:04:17 she was so sweet she like almost cried god Sophie's like crying talking about it no I was coming up with it it was just really lovely from start to finish. And they, like, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:26 How was their, like, first dance and all that? Did she change dresses? We were, Jamie, yeah, she changed into, like, a really beautiful. Both of her dresses were, like, so simplistic and so nice. She's very natural. Anyway, it was such a delightful time. I had pina coladas coming out of my arsehole. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Which I just, I'm not, you know what, I can have one or two and then I'm like, they make me feel sick. I know, but then on the hangover day, so the second, the day two. I was, I just I'm not you know what I can have one or two and then I'm like they make me feel sick I know but then on the hangover day so the second the day two I was like I felt so unwell but that was the only like I couldn't have the wine yeah yeah no no no I was like champagne everything no I was like oh rum no then I was like pina colada it's quite sweet it felt like an icing and then I was like god refreshing in the day as well also it doesn't feel too alcoholy because it feels like a bit of a like smooth milkshake smoothie yeah it's so yeah yeah i was like rolling back to the uk but it was really stunning from start to finish anyway very very jealous secondly we have the fashion awards okay so i don't we've got a little link here so i can have a quick review because I actually
Starting point is 00:05:26 haven't seen any of this. So this is all going to be our first impressions. Have you seen it? I've seen it. Ovs. I don't ever read the, oh this is Hello Mac. I don't ever go on online. Oh okay, I don't know who this is but that's interesting. Oh my god, Kris Jenner went. Wowza. I thought like it was serious.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Oh my god. It was serious about him. So stunning. Sorry guys, Romeo Beckham. Yeah, I was going with Romeo. Christian looks, like, quite rogue in that jacket. I'm really not sure about, um, what's her name? Addison Rae's outfit. I know, yeah. That's not for me.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It's not for me, but I actually think she looks quite cool. Wow, Adriana Lima, always a 10 out of 10. Sorry. Uh, joke. Absolutely stunning. So, guys, Adriana Lima's wearing this, like, two-piece white outfit with, like, all these, like, crystals, but it looks a bit like all over it my favorite were um romeo beckham and his girlfriend mimi they're so young and they just look so sick she is so she was in like um
Starting point is 00:06:15 an all-black outfit as well she's been cut out of this list lol it's just romeo yeah um well i'm not sure about winnie harlow's outfit looks like looks like a dude, but it's fashion. You've got to get, you know... No, but that's bad fashion. Oh, no, no, no, no. No, don't. I'm really sorry. Knock, knock.
Starting point is 00:06:32 No, seriously. For God's sake. You're having serious trouble. Kate Beckinsale. Stunning, stunning woman. Right, okay. Kate Beckinsale. She's incredible.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Probably every man that I know is favourite dream girl I think she's Joan is her and Liz Hurley no Liz Hurley no no no just don't
Starting point is 00:06:52 I don't know the sign about her I don't know sorry it's because she's such a terrible actress when you're watching her on Gossip Girl
Starting point is 00:06:57 she's terrible but how is she famous like where did her she's an actress she was on Austin Powers like back in the day didn't she like marry someone like isn't there like she's got a bad name about her does she yeah i just thought
Starting point is 00:07:09 she was an actress it's quite quite rubbish k beck and sally's like a 10 out of 10 yeah she's stunning oh my god lily allen i love her i love alexa trying i think it's just amazing okay also jillian anderson just so elegant one of the most beautiful women I've always thought she's literally one of the most beautiful she really is there's just something about the way she speaks I'm like I'd love it if you're my mum's friend you know what I mean like you want to like have her in your life yeah lovely godmother yeah yeah yeah she's like when is the crown back because she was she's not in it but there's a new actress that oh my god you know okay right the actress that plays Diana I actually actually really, really love.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Did you watch The Night Manager? Alison Stewart. No, no, no. That's the film. The new crown. She's really, really tall. Okay, what was that film that was like Inception, but it's a new version. Everything goes backwards and reverse.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I don't know. She's very, very tall. Very elegant woman. Amazing, like, aura about her. Like, away with her. Anyway, she plays Diana and it looks like she's going to be a good actress I'm quite excited for the new Crown Weir when is that coming out I'm so excited
Starting point is 00:08:10 beside myself because I started watching it this time last year Christmas last year I think I did too I was quite late to the party and I just finished the whole lot and it was fabulous it was incredible and so it's been a whole year for me so I'm like giddy on it I thought Emma was that itma corin
Starting point is 00:08:25 was phenomenal oh my god it's also the way that she like tilted her head and looked up it was and the sound of her flipping voice i was like it's uncanny like it gave me absolute chills yeah it was absolutely unbelievable yeah when is the crown back guys she's gonna be really hard to compete with that yeah i mean yeah and she had she had unbelievable reviews amazing performance amazing i wonder what she's gonna go into now because her name is diana now like i look i'm just saying diana she did film something with um harry sars oh did she film oh that's why god that's hitting me hard honey is it also guys it's getting bloody dark outside and it's only like three o'clock. I know, I really wish I didn't have any tea.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Quite cosy, though. I could honestly just finish this bottle of wine and have a takeaway. I know, that would be stunning. Okay. Should we ask Melissa what she's been up to? Because I feel like we need to. Or should we wait till the diaries? Well, no, because it's just a general catch-up.
Starting point is 00:09:23 All right. I've just been missing so freely, keeping myself busy. With who? What's it called? Well, no, because it's just a general catch-up. But I've just been missing Soph, really, keeping myself busy. With who? What do you mean? Have you had any dates? No. There's been a couple of dates. Also, we've decided the whole dating two people in one day thing is fully unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I can't do it to myself. I never did it. And I'm so happy I didn't. Wait, so I want to ask, have your dates all been with the same person oh my god Sophie yes okay stunning we won't pry anymore but you guys just keep you on the edge of your seats
Starting point is 00:09:51 for next week to find out oh no no no each week I'm gonna pry a little bit more out of you obviously you guys Sophie knows everything so like this is just well I just want you guys to have a little inside knowledge you know okay well wait till we get to the single diaries
Starting point is 00:10:03 god okay fine fine fine skipping ahead skipping ahead right I can't get over the smiling i think it's freaking me out what are you serious i honestly think it's i've not been smiling recently no i think it's just because you've come from a really wholesome holiday and you've watched people get married it's just been a filled with love yeah very and you've come from the sea. You're good for the soul. The ocean air.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Okay, so first dilemma. How do I stop self-sabotaging? Firstly, I absolutely love the podcast and everything you stand for. It's such a great way to empower girls and show them how to let their hair down. So me and my boyfriend have been together since May, and he's absolutely amazing. We were best friends at work for two years, so i know him inside out and vice versa meaning i can be completely honest with him at the moment we're doing long distance in past relationships i wouldn't say anything if something was bothering me because i wanted to keep the peace but now i
Starting point is 00:10:58 know this is unhealthy i feel like i've gone too much the other way right okay so she's obviously like yeah saying too much stuff for example he's not okay, so she's obviously, like, keeping sayings too much up. For example, he's not good at replying when busy, and when I'm really happy slash busy too, I don't mind. But if I'm not that busy, I tend to overthink it and then get annoyed at him. I kind of get what she means by this.
Starting point is 00:11:18 He has got better with it now after I've told him a few times, but he said that I tend to over-exaggerate the negatives and forget about the positives. Oh, I've had that positives. What do you think, what do you girls think? I do feel bad about not being consistent with my mood fluctuating when I'm busy and when I'm not, and don't want to look like I forget about all the good parts of our relationship. I don't know how to fix this without losing my ability to stand up for myself. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you so much, and please get this anon. Okay, obviously we'll keep this but i i i i so know what she means by like i'm exactly the same like if i'm not busy i'm like i want attention like yeah why are you giving me
Starting point is 00:11:54 attention like it's what goes through my mind and i also i'm busy i'm like oh you're annoying me and also i i get annoyed like sometimes same the same i wouldn't say anything though because they haven't done anything wrong. Oh, when you get to, like, the stage of my relationship, you can, like, through... But surely you don't crave Jamie's attention at this point. No, but, like... That's quite good if you still do.
Starting point is 00:12:12 No, but if I'm just, like, you know, on a flight and he's watching a movie and I'm bored and he's not talking to me, I'll be like, oh, God, you're annoying. So boring. Yeah, you're so boring, because, like, he's watching a movie when actually, like like he's totally like
Starting point is 00:12:25 within his right this is long distance so this is hard because the relationship's literally through the phone oh god i can so understand what you mean but at the same time it's just it's not acceptable to get annoyed at the other person because imagine if she was on the other foot and i use like when you're saying that you're busy yeah we'd be like oh my god he's so controlling but yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah you can't you just can that you're busy. Yeah, we'd be like, oh my God, he's state controlling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you can't. You just can't, you just have to swallow it. It's just one of those things, human nature.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Like we crave attention when we're bored and we're not doing anything. And also I think you have to look at it and be like, this is probably my insecurity. It's my issue, it's not his. And you've got to have a word with yourself and just be like, it's really not fair. And you will drive a wedge between you and you will push him away ultimately
Starting point is 00:13:04 because he will just be like, I'm not frigging anything wrong yeah and if you i i do also think taking this on like maybe a dark note if you are the type of person that craves so much attention when you're not i think that maybe the long distance relationship isn't for you because i mean you know sorry i'm just being honest but like that's it sounds like that this is going to be the case you know it's not going to go away ultimately like if you're not busy you're going to want your boyfriend to talk to you which I so understand because that's like your wind down time when you have like time just the two of you but you're doing long distance and he's like busy with his like mates after work going out for drinks whatever yeah it's difficult I also think
Starting point is 00:13:41 that someone once told me that um girls find it well, not girls, anyone finds it weird. People find it hard to understand their emotions. So for me, my easiest emotion is sometimes anger. Like, I don't like being sad. I don't, I feel weak being like, oh, I feel insecure or whatever. Like, I just do. So my easiest thing is to just be annoyed at Jamie. Whereas I think if you actually sometimes sit back
Starting point is 00:14:05 and be like, what emotion am I actually feeling? And then discuss it with him and be like, I feel like you might feel a bit abandoned, you might feel a bit lonely, you might feel a bit, you know, unwanted. And then he can sort of have a different angle. To go off. Rather than you going for the instant annoying
Starting point is 00:14:22 that you find, you know, attacking him. But I do think that like, if this is just how I would respond rather than you going for the instant annoying that you find you know attacking him but i do think that like if this is just how i would respond if i was being told by say i had a boyfriend and they were going to me like it makes me feel abandoned when you don't talk to me and i'm bored at home it would kind of be like well you need to grow up a bit like that would be my response to somebody because i'd be like i can't just sit at home waiting for you to potentially be sat at home bored as well so that we can talk make set times i guess to speak to one another but like if you are bored like you've got to let him have his independence and you've got to have
Starting point is 00:14:52 yours so true and also you've got to whenever those creeping thoughts come into your mind just be like that's not true that's not the reality like he probably you know he has to have a life you can't let your mind run wild. You have to learn to be fine by yourself and not get bored and, like, crave his attention to, like, fulfil your boredness and make you feel like you're entertained. Yeah. We can entertain ourselves, girls.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Seriously. Second dilemma, do I come clean? I was seeing a guy, let's call him John, for three months. We ended up, we ended things a year ago. Then a couple of months later, we ended up sleeping with each other after a night out. Lovely, love a good going back to the ex on the night out, Jake. I then found out John was seeing somebody.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And I obviously wanted to tell her as I felt as though she had the right to know. But I decided not to as me and John have mutual friends and I didn't want to cause drama. Okay, yeah, good, good, good shout. They are now boyfriend and girlfriend and seem very in love and are about to move in together. Do you think I should tell her or is it too late now? I would really appreciate your advice on this, please, girls. Right, I'm going to say take it to the grave with you. There is no point in us splitting up. I would do too. I would take it to the grave with you there is no point in splitting up i would take that to the grave with me i can understand like it's like you like you put
Starting point is 00:16:12 yourself in that position like i would want to know if the boy that i was moving in with had just shagged another like his ex oh god so it's difficult does she know the girl no no take it to the oh take it to the grave you don't know know the girl. You know what? And also, I feel like... You run off when she will fall back on you, exactly. Everyone will just be like, you're the bitch. Which is so unfair, because you're really not, and you're just doing what... You're being a good human.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Yeah. You're being a good human by it going through your head that you should tell her. But she'll twist... Well, without her... We will twist it, and then she will probably leave him. It will look like you're trying... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:44 It will just look like you're trying to break them up and it will look like you're obsessed with him like it's just gonna go that way unfortunately i agree i think the best thing to do is just be like to him you're disgusting and i also feel like you don't know what what stage their relationship was at when you slept with him they might have just been seeing each other and it might not have been that serious yeah mind you how quickly like you can't really know it's moving into each other i mean that's probably but you know what i feel like she will like if he's set with you i feel like he's probably set with other people as well yeah like you're not the only one and she will find out like the universe works in whatever like
Starting point is 00:17:19 mysterious ways it's not your responsibility exactly you're not friends with her you're not friends with him they're not married with kids yeah then it's a whole different story i feel like she will find out like these things always come out in the woodwork don't they like you can't get away with stuff yeah and you've done nothing wrong you've got to remember that yeah you've done nothing wrong you don't know her also i know this sounds a bit of a messed up way thinking about it but because you didn't know that he was together with her oh god i don't and you don't know her you don't owe her anything and at the time you didn't know that they were living together. So, like, you are so in the clear.
Starting point is 00:17:48 But, like, thinking about it, like, if I was moving in with Jay, what would she never find out? Like, I would be so upset. But then maybe, maybe, maybe, I know this is also really dark, maybe he did it and was like, shit, what have I done? I'm so in love with my girlfriend. I pray she never finds out. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:18:04 If I moved in with someone and found out they slept with someone i'd be like i literally can't stand you yeah i know sometimes i know sometimes ignorance is bliss and i know that's really messed up oh but like imagine imagine imagine if i found out a year later that jamie like set us up just yeah would you forgive him no i well i don't know you never know until you're in that position but no you'd feel massively but imagine
Starting point is 00:18:28 okay so imagine this scenario so this guy has slept with his ex on a rogue night out and then been like oh my shit I'm so in love with my girlfriend what on earth have I done horrible horrible
Starting point is 00:18:37 horrible mistake it's the ex it's the ex I know I know I know that's not a random girl it's the ex like yeah it's bad
Starting point is 00:18:43 there was thoughts there like meditation I don't really know if I was you I wouldn't That is not a random girl, it's the ex. Like, oh. Yeah, it's bad. There was thoughts there, like, premeditation. I don't really know. If I was you, I wouldn't say anything. I would take it to the grave. But I can understand from a moral perspective
Starting point is 00:18:50 that it, maybe she should know. But I don't think it should come from you. I think it will come out in another way. He should fucking tell her. He should tell her.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah, you never know. He could. You know, if you wanted to be really rude, she might even know. You could go, imagine if she already knows and she was like, I've forgiven him, we've moved past this. Like, how dare you, Madel. Like, you don't he could... You know, if you wanted to be really rude... She might even know. You could go... Imagine if she already knows and she was like,
Starting point is 00:19:05 I've forgiven him, we've moved past this. Yeah. Like, how dare you, Madel? Like, you don't know the ins and outs of this situation. Oh, for God's sake. That's a really...
Starting point is 00:19:13 That's really, like, Morrie... This is difficult. ...corrupt, like, confused. Like, me. Okay, what would you do if you were this girl? You would take her to the grave?
Starting point is 00:19:20 You wouldn't say a thing? Um... I think I would... Do they not have mutual friends? I think it would get out, for sure, if it's the ex. They do have mutual friends. They've got mutual friends. I'd probably tell one of the mutual friends and be like,
Starting point is 00:19:33 I don't want to tell her, but what do you want to do with this information? I feel too bad keeping this. I just would. I would not be able to live with myself. I'd feel like a homewrecker. I wouldn't be able to live with myself. Seeing them shut down the street what if then what if the girlfriend is like but you know they could have been on a break
Starting point is 00:19:49 at the time you never know but if they were then that's fine you've said everything i'd probably say to her friend like i am so sorry this has happened like i feel so awful about it what like oh god but imagine you know what's bad though imagine like she forgives him they get back together and then they'll just be like why does she fucking open up the girlfriend will just hate you anyway because you're the ex like that's just natural like we all hate everyone's exes don't we let's be honest you know to be fair i got on quite well with a lot of my exes exes um who's my exes exes oh yeah well yeah well yeah her yeah did you oh yeah
Starting point is 00:20:25 but he'd had many yeah he did have many but Emily we all love oh yeah Emily's wicked who else was an ex
Starting point is 00:20:34 um I mean a bump there was a bump I mean there was just so bloody many it's half London let's be honest ah
Starting point is 00:20:40 right okay well my advice we're completely on this one I think that you should tell a friend melissa says take it to the grave what do you guys think okay yeah maybe tell a friend i don't know i just don't want to know i'm so paranoid about people like things coming back and biting like someone in the house yeah i know but what like what about this what if he's an absolute dog and she's like saved a girl from moving in with him okay then that's different i guess it depends on like you know him better because he's your ex picture you matt moving in with him. Okay, then that's different. I guess it depends on, like, you know him better because he's your ex.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Picture you, Matt, Matt moving in with you. Picture you. Moving in with a boy and then finding out. Or picture anyone you're dating and then just getting with them and then being like, Yeah, I would want to know. I would want to know
Starting point is 00:21:15 and then I'd be like, see you later. I'd be like, fuck you. But that's like thinking about my position, like, that's thinking from a different perspective. But if you were moving in, you'd be even far... Okay, right, just go and tell her. Just go and fucking tell her she needs to know tell her and then let us know what the tables have given us the gossip no i'm really sorry there's wine on the jet lag
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Starting point is 00:22:25 this i'm not happy with this hi girls finally i got around to listening to your podcast and spend pretty much the whole day going through quite a few episodes wow thank you a little over three years ago i met someone through work he is french and lives there and works in our french office age 42 this is getting kinky already. Christian Grey. I live in England. I work in our UK office. We have never met in person but we connected talking and see men. He has baggage.
Starting point is 00:22:54 He isn't married and has no kids but he is in a long term relationship. This is wild. He told me about it early on and we said nothing would happen until he would sort things his side. Oh no no, no, no, no. Classic. They all say the same thing.
Starting point is 00:23:07 We went on a trip together. He said he would sort things. Then he couldn't because she had done nothing wrong. We then said we'd stop talking until things were right for us to start. And we don't talk for a while, but we always come back together and hit it off when we stopped. There are clearly feelings on both sides, but I think and feel he cherishes the security of his side too much they share a house stable income for both and how how people look at him i think he doesn't want to be the bad one breaking things off with her nope it's just how do we get out of the circle neither of us can imagine a life
Starting point is 00:23:40 with that without the other but it seems he loves two people maybe plus enjoys the security i actually think it's so possible to be another two people at the same time i'm sorry i feel really sorry for you because he's gaslighting the shit out of you but get out of this yeah this is really not giving me good energy he will start a new job in the year so this will change the dynamics because we will no longer see each other's name on that chat at work work emails etc so this will be interesting okay i'm 39 by the way it would be nice to hear your point of view and maybe the one of a man if you're planning on doing this again it has really been hard for us both but i also
Starting point is 00:24:15 think you should be doing something if he wants me there i've taken a step away from it a little to look at it more from a distance and have him take the next steps rather than being than me being the one that does we've only just started talking again and when we currently talk don't currently talk much he started an email thread with me telling our story this is so sweet but i'm not yet sure what his point is and what he is trying to say i spent many tearful nights on this but he is also the one that makes my heart smile and i want him to be there thank you for listening oh my god okay first my heart is breaking for you a bit because i can tell you're so deeply in love with this boy man but are you gonna spend the rest of your life waiting for this bloke to
Starting point is 00:24:54 potentially like break it off with this girl no i'm really sorry and i don't blame you because love is blind love is blind and you clearly aren't a bad person you just really like him and he's ghastly to hell we can't help who we love what I think is that he would if he loved you enough or he loved you at all he would leave his long term girlfriend to be with you and he's not doing that
Starting point is 00:25:17 he's just stringing you along and you're just going to be you know what this is reminding me of the holiday you know in the holiday when that iris is in love with that man, and he just strings her along on the work emails, and all that naughty stuff, and he's engaged,
Starting point is 00:25:34 and he's like... And he's there, and then he calls her, and he's like, I love you, don't I? And she's like, does that mean you're leaving your fiancé? And he's like,
Starting point is 00:25:41 no. It's like bizarre. And then she's like, you know what? Fuck you. Like, seriously seriously i'm not waiting yeah i i like my there's a solid response to me on this sack him off he is an asshole he is a master manipulator this is not okay on any level he's gaslit you
Starting point is 00:25:58 like no you're wasting your time with this man and i'm not gonna put it any other way i so agree i do think that it's possible though no when people are married or in a long-term relationship it's possible to fall in love with someone else but then the only responsible thing is to to make a decision and be like i'm gonna leave my partner for you because i love you so much yeah and that's fine but he's stringing you both and it sounds like this has been going on for like what years so i mean it's fully not okay it's anything but okay and also no it's not okay on any level it just needs to stop this needs to stop right now yeah get yourself out there now get yourself out there and this is giving me red red red red light this is a red light moment I always have this
Starting point is 00:26:45 like and with and like with any advice I'm giving you like I wouldn't even say oh I'd air this to him or I'd say this
Starting point is 00:26:51 or give him an ultimatum like I just want you to get out of this like I don't even want you to be here don't waste any more time just be like you have wasted my time
Starting point is 00:26:58 this is wrong you are with somebody else if you loved me enough you would have left her you haven't that's it for that reason goodbye i'm out my whinge is it could be in a relationship of like a fight with your boyfriend or it could be
Starting point is 00:27:18 like with friends if you've had a fight and then you say look i'm sorry let's forget it let's forgive it you then can never bring up that fight again. No, no, you can't. You can't a week later or the next day be like, yeah, I'm annoyed because you did this yesterday. It's like, no, you've moved on. So that's my winch. Yeah. It's like when people, like, cheat and then they choose to forgive.
Starting point is 00:27:38 That is hard. I know everyone says that. But then, like, you can't, like, constantly bring it up and hang it over the other person's head because then it just gets toxic. It's like, okay, we've decided to move on from this. Don't bring it up again. You're going to go home and want to see Papa this way, aren't you? You're going to have a lovely night.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I'm having a lovely vegan clean kitchen delivery this evening. Can't wait. Oh, stunning. It's a chicken. It's a chicken. We're plugging clean kitchen. Truffle burger Situation I think
Starting point is 00:28:06 Lovely lovely Obviously vegan chicken Stuns Not much has happened I'm Get out There's nothing really to say You know what I will say
Starting point is 00:28:23 What? What I will say? What? What will you say? That. Do you, are you blushing? No! Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:28:33 The fanny blotters are getting worse and worse. I honestly, Melissa sent me a screenshot of like what this boy said to us. She was like, got flange blotters. And I was literally sat next to Jamie. He was like,
Starting point is 00:28:42 what are they? So I was just like, I got off the chat really quickly. I was like, no, bye. I was literally sat next to Jamie he was like what are they? so I was just like I got off the chat really quickly I was like no bye I was like I can't go into what they are even though he definitely knows oh you know what's just so great really fancying someone
Starting point is 00:28:53 like that's a really really great feeling I haven't had that in years I told her about him she fancies him as well everyone fancies him I'm a taken woman. I definitely don't, but he's an extreme fan. Okay, no, you know, this is actually what I'm going to talk about because it's really funny.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Okay, so there's certain things apparently that can give a girl the ick, right? So my friend Hermione was talking about, like, apparently it's like a meme. And my friend Hermione was saying something about, like, when you go bowling with a bloke and then he, like like when he like walks back off like throwing the ball what are they actually i don't know apparently it's like this is apparently it's a thing that gives people the ick right and my friend hermione is like if a boy does that like i'm fully repulsed like repulsed and i was like right okay this boy can't do anything i know i know what she means like they run back yeah i don't know what it is i don't know what it is
Starting point is 00:29:42 and then and then they bowl it and then they turn around and walk towards you if any fat boy did me bowling I'd be like no okay so I really don't know if he listens but this boy
Starting point is 00:29:50 from Forking what were you on about he stood in dog shit no stop no I love him that's so sweet no it broke
Starting point is 00:30:00 my heart did he go oops or did he no it was so bad it was really fucking but it was all over the shit it was just like what do oops? No, it was so bad. It was really fucking bad. But it was all over his shoe. It was just like...
Starting point is 00:30:08 What do you mean? I don't know, it was just like fully stepped in dog shit and it was like... Did you see it? Yes, I was walking right next to it. Did you go, oh? I tried to stop him from walking in it and then it was too late. Oh my god, his poor heart was horrible. I'm done. I've sealed the deal. I've just put my foot in it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Oh, I feeded it. so how did he get over it he listens he's danged no he just he just wiped it off I don't know he just got it off it was fine
Starting point is 00:30:30 you were obviously so smitten that you couldn't smell the shit no no no I was walking and then like that was it
Starting point is 00:30:36 I was gone like in like five minutes after that so it was fine oh he definitely didn't go off he had to run home and wash his trainer
Starting point is 00:30:42 for like an hour and then he thank god he was like do not come back to my house bye I've got shit
Starting point is 00:30:48 all over my sheet that's the worst is there certain things that guys do that can give you the ick I'm trying to think what else like people can do that would
Starting point is 00:30:54 give me the ick that's a funny story can we have one more before we die this voice could do like anything and it probably wouldn't give me the ick
Starting point is 00:30:59 he's that fit she sounds like she's in love no shut up but is there anything that Jamie did at the beginning where you were like
Starting point is 00:31:04 that could potentially send me it's sending me on the edge you were already in love with him it was too late no I wasn's in love. No, shut up. But is there anything that Jamie did at the beginning where you were like, that could potentially send me on the edge? You were already in love with him. No, I wasn't in love with him. You fell in love with him before you dated him. Sort of. No, I didn't. Oh, you did. You both fell in love with each other before you started dating
Starting point is 00:31:17 and it was like this. Yeah. Come on, don't lie. Everyone knows it. Everyone that knows Sophie and Jamie, they fell in love before they started dating. That's why you started dating. Just kidding. Help yourselves. But did he do anything that like give you the egg um no i remember when we first kissed oh yeah his lovely chap lips
Starting point is 00:31:36 oh no i love him so much we are hammered i'm not like like we are'm actually I've got a meeting I might have to cancel it anyway oh god we we were on a flight and we kissed and we like woke up because we
Starting point is 00:31:52 he got me so drunk on ride five wait wait wait is this no Cape Town years ago made in Chelsea yeah made in Chelsea
Starting point is 00:31:58 anyway I hope on the way on the way back was our first kiss oh my god I love you you're so romantic real in there that is anyway juicy juicy stuff that's juicy oh my god i um we woke up we were
Starting point is 00:32:12 like what the fuck happened like when i say i was hammered i was white girl was there fireworks i don't remember any of it i just remember kissing actually the poor woman at sex must have been like sorry cool this is unacceptable these two people oh we were in economy so you were like no we were like basically like we i think we paid to go to premiums oh i love that jamie would have been like come on safe let's go premium i love that i mean it's not so he could have had you to yourself anyway anyway i remember we woke up we came to and i remember he had, I looked at him, he had his camera out, like, saw Dick's hair and I'm like, oh god. Oh no, oh no. I was like, no, no. What's he doing?
Starting point is 00:32:52 Anyway, that's all for now. That's all for now, that's it for today, folks. But yeah, guys, oh no, we need to wake up. Sorry, Sophie's absolutely hammed. I can't. She's honestly grinning for it. This has to be jet lag, but we do need to rate the wine.
Starting point is 00:33:09 She's delirious. Okay, I'm not going to rate this as highly as the last round. I'm giving it a two. What? It's a nice wine. What's wrong with you? A solid five. Yeah, I reckon a five or a six.
Starting point is 00:33:20 It's not. We gave, I think last week we did 7.5, right? We've been stuck at seven for a while. I feel like we need to mix it up. We need to drop the ball on this one. It's not. We gave, I think last week we did 7.5, wait. We've been stuck at 7 for a while. I feel like we need to mix it up. We need to drop the ball on this one. I could drink the other one by itself. This I couldn't. I would probably have to. I mean, I say I couldn't. We've just probably
Starting point is 00:33:33 had all of it without anything, but I would need to have. Are we okay? We're celebrating. We haven't seen each other in ages. Also, guys, she's turning 25 this week. Sorry, you're 24 yes how old did you think i was so if you think some heritage and say i love feeling this you and jamie make me feel so young i love it so much i'm 27 you're just turning 25 that they were the best years of
Starting point is 00:33:58 my life oh stop don't say that what do you mean i'm joking i'm now halfway to 50 that's so upsetting and i'm literally a year away from 30 which is fine because god you're 28 next year no you're 29 yeah you're 28 next year yeah guys but also 30 a lot of our listeners a lot of people also say as soon as you turn 30 you just stop giving a shit about what anything one thinks and it's like the best time of your life when you're 30 yeah i think we're actually gonna and then my mom actually said her 40s were incredible as well some nice way to oh jimmy's granny who's like 90 or something told me that her 50s were the best years of her really yeah i think it just varies i just think we just freak out because time is just really rushing i just worry that i'm gonna like be like everything's gonna be going like really
Starting point is 00:34:43 north do you know what i mean everything's just gonna drop on my face my body everything oh we're thinking about the way we look yeah well i mean naturally we don't get better as we get older do we actually know what some women do do you know what they really do it's all in the mind you've just got to love and appreciate you've got to embrace it and also i think when you think about what everyone around you is like the same age like you're all aging at the same time but together so it's fine fuck you well yeah i've got two years below you go smoke loads of cigarettes and drink loads so you age don't ruin my skin no she's too good for that anyway guys love you so much thank you so much hope you enjoyed it bye bye Bye. I do. Daily Jackpots. A chance to win with every spin and a guaranteed winner by 11pm every day.
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