Wednesdays - Ep 38: Love The Guy, Hate The Style ft. Jamie Laing

Episode Date: January 5, 2022

Today’s a special episode, because Jamie Laing is back on the pod filling in for his lovely fiancé, as well as giving us the lowdown on his PROPOSAL. Soph will be back next week and she’ll be giving us alll the details of the engagement. Reunited at last!In true Dry Jan fashion we’re drinking a nosecco! https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/303775552 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600. Or visit connectsontario.ca. Select games only. Guarantee void if platform or game outages occur. Guarantee requires play by at least one customer until jackpot is awarded or 11 p.m. Eastern. Restrictions apply. See full terms at canada.casino.fandu.com. Please play responsibly. Hey guys, it's Sophie here. I'm Melissa. And welcome to our new podcast, Wednesdays We Drink Wine. Hey guys, welcome back. new year hey guys this this is bizarre hey guys

we've got hey guys jimmy lang yeah yeah instead of sophie which is um gonna be our new um thing for the new year sophie's not on the podcast anymore guys it's just me would you ever do that to her would you ever do that no never can i just say before firstly what a real honor to be and we're going to explain why i'm doing the podcast today but it's a real honor to be on the podcast first and foremost it is of course but secondly um i've never met two people who speak more than you and soph I know, it's almost as if you know when you're in a relationship with someone and we were saying this the other day and there's just like something really small happens to you

like someone was rude to you in the shop I'll call Soph and be like god you'll never like just every little thing I feel like the need to call her and tell her about it and she does the same with me it's like, she probably tells you exactly what she tells me it's like poor call i'm gonna call jamie and tell him then no she phones you she'll she'll be something

like like like she sees a puppy and she'll message you saying that she saw a puppy yeah it's stuff like that it's funny i i actually feel like i've like now she's gone away i feel quite because i haven't spoken to her as much and then and then also then because we've been away in South Africa and then you sent her a message saying that you miss her lots and Sophie got all like teary and weepy about it I was like what the hell is going on what is she had a drink no she had a drink I honestly think I have a feeling that if if I died she wouldn't be as sad as you died. Oh, stop.

I'm not even kidding you. I'm not even kidding you. I think we're on equal paths with that. No, I don't think so. I just think the difference is I have a penis. So that's like the only thing. It's just a different relationship. But she is legit like my sister.

But since she's been away, we haven't FaceTimed as much. I've only FaceTimed her once when I spoke to you as well. Do you normally FaceTime every day? Mm-hmm. Maybe like three times a day. No, we haven't FaceTimed as much. I've only FaceTimed her, what, once? When I spoke to you as well. Do you normally FaceTime every day? Mm-hmm. Maybe like three times a day. No, you don't. Yes, I do. What do you mean?

What do you have to talk about? You do a podcast together as well. We just, I don't know, like if I'm on a walk, I'll just be like, oh, quite, just need to speak to Soph because it's been a couple of hours. It's terrible, but it's lovely, lovely relationship. And also, I can't even imagine because because i hear you speaking to her about your relationships non-relationships whatever it is yeah all the

time all the bits and bobs all the bits and bobs and then you i i can imagine that she says all the bits and bobs about me so i can imagine at times you probably thought jamie is such a dick when i probably done nothing wrong i actually have your back so much i'm like no sophie you need to be a bit more calm like you need to go back into that like especially with that whole puppy thing oh yeah that puppy thing was worse that was a big deal that was a big deal but now okay okay just quickly because i'm on your podcast oh now you know with the the puppy thing she now says to me thank god we didn't get the puppy i know i know and now says to me, thank God we didn't get the puppy. I know. I know. And I always say to her, thank God you didn't. Jesus. Okay.

So how does this podcast work? You tell me. Well, I mean, first of all, let's just give a little lowdown about why Sophie isn't here. Cause I feel like everyone's going to be like, what the hell's going on? All right. I'm going to give the lowdown team. Okay, here we go. And also, by the way, I'm sure everyone's listening to this and they want to know what happened with the engagement. They want to know listening to this and they want to know what happened with the engagement they want to know about the ring they will know but we're gonna get real beefing yeah and you know i'm gonna say bits and bobs but i'm gonna save some of it for sophie to say and i'm gonna give my perspective on things so you're gonna get the double whammy here listeners because you get my perspective and sophie's perspective okay so lowdown on what's happened to Soph, guys. Okay, so basically, Sophie became, Sophie was really unwell.

We went and had engagement drinks with Sophie's sister and her new fiancé now. That is mad. Oh, my God. That's another thing we have to talk about. That is just crazy. Oh, my God, it's crazy. Okay, so Sophie's sister got engaged, right? And when I phoned, they got us after so they did it december the 29th or

something like that was it like two weeks it was two weeks apart yeah so when i phoned up sophie's dad to ask him for his blessings to marry his daughter yeah he first thing he said he went jamie you pranking me and i thought that was a bit weird oh my god yeah it was a bit of a weird like i was like really this is a bit of a weird moment but that's okay i didn't mind it i was like fine whatever the reason why i know now he said it is because three days before georgia habu sophie's sister his fiancee tom had phoned him up and asked him the same question they'd done the same thing oh my god imagine that that is crazy but also really lovely that it was like at the same time also rings very similar ring brings it brings the same time. Also rings very similar.

Rings the same. Rings the same. Everything's the same. It's identical. It's identical. I didn't want to say it. It's identical. Everything's identical.

But you know what? That ring is very like, I guess, popular because people have discovered that it's like the most sparkly like diamond to get. Like that shape. Yeah. It's just so stunning. Very good taste. You both have.

Okay, hold on. We've got so much to talk about so anyway so listen so sophie that we had engagement drinks with sophie's uh sister her new fiance but this was before they were getting engaged on our engagement we had a lovely time sophie went to bed that evening and we weren't we weren't we had a bit drunk we had a bit of champagne whatever it it was. We woke up the next day and Sophie was so unwell. Puking in the loo. Puking in the loo. Puking in the loo. Puking in the loo.

She then got back into bed and she started puking on my shoulder like she was like... Oh, shiz. I had no control. She had no control. I genuinely couldn't even make it to the loo. I don't know if you've ever had your dog in the car and they get car sick and they puke on you. Have you ever had that? No. Okay. Okay, well Have you ever had that? No.

Okay. Okay, well, I've had that before. And honestly, so she was like, peeking my shoulder like a little puppy. And I was like, this is weird. Her fingertips and lips went a little bit blue. And I was like, this is not cool. I remember her saying to me, she was like, gosh, I had a lot of red wine, but what? Like, why are my fingers all so gay?

Yeah. So then what happened was is that i was doing a podcast and she ran into the room she was crying and her whole lips and whole fingertips went blue long story short ran into the hospital and i thought in hospitals it's like the movies you run and then you go somebody help me no one did anything no one did anything yeah somebody somebody yeah and like lightning goes off and all these things nothing happened i was like what the hell is happening here so i then take her upstairs anyway nothing was working no one was there was such a big queue

so i took her to another doctor um outside of the hospital who checked her oxygen levels and her oxygen levels were dangerously low. So something she had digested, and we can only think that it was food that she ate or something like that. We can think that that made it happen to her. So she was really, really unwell. She was at a point where, you know, it was pretty damn serious. She could have died if we hadn't gone to hospital. And it was a really scary moment.

So anyway, to get the podcast back on, to lower the mood, she then, we go and then fly to South Africa. She's much better. We fly to South Africa. And the whole week in South Africa, she has a bad tummy. I mean, presh. She's going to hate me saying this. We're sharing a room.

And it was honestly like battleships in the loo. It was full on. I was like, what is this? Now that we're engaged. So romantic. Now you're engaged. Now we're engaged. It doesn't even matter. It was like full on.

That happened all week. And she was. Bless her. Now you're engaged. Now we're engaged. It doesn't even matter. It was like full on. That happened all week. And she was. Bless her. I know. She was just not very well. We then get on the flight to come back, which is last night. She wasn't too well getting on the flight. We land this morning.

And even to the point, she'll tell this as well when she comes back on. When we're on the flight going out there, the air hostess comes up to us and says to Sophie, are you okay? You don't look very well oh god that's such an insult i'm like how would she said this to sophie is like sophie was like sophie was like what do you mean what do you mean she's like yeah just you know i don't feel that well anyway the next morning we land and she's not looking too good she's feeling very unwell we get out of the airport into a cab to get back home and we're driving.

She's really not good. And she says, I'm going to throw up. She looks at her bag. She has a bag next to it. She's going to do it. She's like, it's either in the bag or it's all over.

She was going to do it in her bag. And I was like, you can't do that. So she cupped her hoodie in the front and just threw up in it. And it wasn't like small. It was full-blown projector. So we then had to tell the taxi driver. He pulled over very kindly.

We had to take her hoodie off very carefully. I touched the bulge. Oh, as in she was wearing it and went like this? I know, yeah. I touched the bulge. It was so warm. I don't know how, it's so warm. It's like warm, warm, warm, warm. Boiling, in fact. I then had to put that in the bin she's now come

back home and to all of you listeners i'm so sorry you're expecting to have sophie here i have manned up and joined it because she's in bed throwing up every 30 minutes at the moment we don't know what it is but it's been a complete whirlwind and all these different things also we have to mention is that is that i'm not drinking on the podcast. Yeah, I was going to say, it's dry Jan for you. I can't do it. January's depressing enough. I'm like, get me some more alcohol. So you're drinking?

Well, no, today I'm joining you on the no alcohol situation. I'm doing a non-alcoholic Prosecco. We have had this before. It's called Nozecco. And it is actually quite nice. It's vegan. And you can get it from Amazon. And I think loads of actually places you can get it on Deliveroo. This one was Deliveroo to me. Wait, so what's it called? It's actually quite nice. It's vegan. And you can get it from Amazon. And, like, I think loads of actually places, like, you can get it on Deliveroo.

This one was Deliveroo to me. Wait, so what's it called? It's a non-alcoholic Prosecco. Prosecco. And it's actually really nice. Yeah, but I think you left that in my apartment and I drank that with my friends thinking it was Prosecco. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That night when you had the poker evening.

I had the poker evening. It is really good. It is really, really good. Okay, and where can you get it from? You get it from Amazon? Amazon. And I think there's a couple of places that sell it. Like, I think Tesco, you can maybe get it on delivery, places like that.

I'm going to talk about my reaction to the engagement, because it was just the most magical moment. So I obviously knew you were going to do it at some point. I thought... How did you know? Next year. Because it's just obvious, like, it's so the right timing. Like, obviously you guys are going to get get married did Sophie ever ask you questions um

uh yes she did yes she did there was a couple of suspicions and like we had conversations and she was like I don't know maybe it'll be like next year or like maybe we'll go away or I don't know like and I was like no I always used to say to it'll be like next year or like maybe we'll go away. I don't know. And I was like, no, I always used to say to her, I bet you it's going to be then. So when you went to Barbados, I was like, I bet you he's going to do it then. She was like, oh, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Anyway, you surprised everyone with the way you did it. It was so, so sneaky and so good. But also so romantic. It wasn't a disappointment. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? I'm going to have to save the romance for so many but okay but your but your reaction so what were your feelings when we phoned you up

so i was getting myself ready to come and see you guys yeah for a drink and sophie facetimed me and my phone was on the bed and i was like putting my makeup on and she was like melissa and i was like yeah and i wasn't looking at the phone she's like Melissa and I was like what picked up the phone god you're annoying me picked up the phone and you guys are just sat there and she's like hobbling the ring and I was like I don't know why like my whole body just went like hot and I just like my tears just came in my eyes like straight away and I was like oh my god and I just burst into tears and ruined all my makeup your reaction was by far the best though it was so because i tell you what it is is that when the greatest like i've said this on private parts right but i can say it again uh-huh if you if if men or women or partners whoever you're or whatever

partner it doesn't matter whoever you are whatever relationship you're in if you don't want to get married good on you go for it that's that's your choice if you do get married good on you as well you know I chose to get engaged and have the thing because I wanted it but the moment that you get down as the person who's proposing and in this sake it was me getting down on one knee and there is nothing that can replicate that in I've never you're never going to do that again either like it's the one time you ever do it it's like a movie it's like this weird moment and then you're you're going in your head you're like this is actually happening this is happening right now yeah so surreal so surreal and then you

literally like and you you almost it almost is awkward when you're saying the words will you marry me what was soph Sophie's face like? Because she probably won't remember what she was even doing. It would probably be blurry to her. But what was her face like? Do you remember? Tears, hands over the face, crying. She just kept saying, what's going on? What's going on?

That's all she kept saying. That's all she kept saying. And did she actually say yes? Or was it just like, hug you, I can't speak? She said yes on the second one because the first one i stumbled over as well because it didn't i can't you feel awkward doing it you feel like awkward doing it and it's bizarre and then you do and also you go you probably go over the moment like a million times before you do it yeah you go over the moment so

many times it's not spontaneous it's not spontaneous and then you're sort of standing there and then the moment is actually having you're like oh my god like there is just no way and then going down on one knee it's it's like it's the most bizarre i do my podcast six degrees with spencer right and he was telling me we're talking about the engagement he was telling me how he did it he did it because he thought Vogue liked the Lion King so he took her to backstage at the Lion King and it was in front of Nala Simba so basically a herd of lions he just he actually he got down on his knee and proposed and it was all a bit weird was she like why the hell is there three lions yeah three lions like oh my god weird the whole thing so i would advise from a point of view who someone has proposed is to do it in a place which is

special to you to do it in a place which is pretty casual because it's a moment for you and being someone who's so used to being so open and honest about everything filming anything anything yeah yeah you share a lot don't share it afterwards but do it with yourself and then meet friends afterwards like we did with you yeah no i think that that was a really lovely way of doing it and as you say it was in a really special place to you guys but it also was a special place where you did it in general like that that i thought it was like a lovely yeah that was the place we had our first proper date but it was special for sentimental reasons and also the Rosewood is just such a lovely special hotel as well because it was just so nice and it was just such a happy thing but

then there was this whole thing right so what would you do then there's this whole thing right about showing the ring right um I think I wouldn't necessarily take a picture like off my hand and be like right everyone here's my ring but like I wouldn't on take a picture like off my hand and be like, right, everyone, here's my ring. But like, I wouldn't on purpose be like, I'm going to hide it. You know what I mean? I feel like the way Soph's done it, like people can see what the ring is and it looks lovely, but she hasn't like shoved up to the front of the camera to show everyone what the ring is.

Right? Yeah. She thought from the beginning, we were like, oh God, let's take a picture. She's like, well, no, I just, I don't really just want to go and show off my ring to everyone that's not what it's about and i think everyone and each their own but they show their finger to the camera and they take a photo right we're gonna get she didn't really want to do that and i was like do that respect it but then everyone becomes obsessed with the ring what it is yeah why is it i mean they can see it you can see it like if you want to have like it's in pictures it's just not like

in your face but none of us I don't feel like any of us well any of us three we don't take pictures of our if we have a new watch or we have a new handbag and we don't shove that like do you know what I mean like that's just not something that I guess we're used to doing so I guess for a ring it's almost like okay this is even more of a big deal maybe I really shouldn't show it kind of thing okay question does the ring matter a hundred percent if someone if someone proposes to me the dot I am saying no you did so much research right into like the diamond the carrot like you really like learned

your stuff and like it took you a long time to like figure out what you wanted in the shape and everything how long did it take me seven months or six months to do it and also it took me a whole year to decide whether or not i wanted to do it like a whole like yeah that sounds really bad do i really like this girl because it's you have to remember that this is and everyone goes it's not for it things are meant to be forever like this in my opinion and oh 100 yeah and so you kind of want to make sure that you're doing it right but but i i feel like i timed it quite well i'm 33 perfect timing stunning timing for both you perfect point you're like oh god you guys it's gonna be i'm so jealous and so happy so we're gonna go on to some dilemmas now are you ready oh yeah i can't wait no okay dilemma one

hey gorgeous girls just wanted to write in as i thought you would be able to help i've started seeing a new guy in the last four months and things are getting serious he is the sweetest and almost perfect dot dot dot but i'm seriously struggling with some of his wardrobe choices 70 of it's fine for example recently we were getting ready to go out for dinner and my night was almost ruined by the shirt he was wearing. Oh God. It really didn't suit him and was just not a look. He's gorgeous, but is let down by his horrid fashion sense. Also, my flatmates have picked up on it and did make a comment. So I know it's not just me. We are not currently at any point where I can directly say, do not wear that.

Do you girls have any suggestions as to how I can nicely suggest he shouldn't wear certain things, slash I need to sort of sort his wardrobe for him? P.S., thank you so much. You two are literally my style icons. That's so sweet. Oh, my God. Okay. Is it guys' dress sense of turn-off?

For me, it's such a turn off. Is it really? But also, I think it would be for you too. I think this so works both ways, right? Yeah, I think it does. Have you seen the Emily in Paris outfits, Jamie? No. Oh, God.

Are they good or bad? Oh, no, they're awful. I'm just going to really quickly show Jamie a picture. Yeah, you show me a picture. Go on. On Instagram. Why don't you post this on the Wednesdays We Drink Wine social media? Oh Jamie a picture. Yeah, you show me a picture. Go on. On Instagram. Why don't you post this on the Wednesdays We Drink Wine social media? Oh, we will.

Oh, we will. Oh, we will. Guys, some of these outfits should be illegal. So why are they weird? Why is she wearing them? Well, you know, she obviously thinks they look great. So if you were going to go on a date with this girl and she was wearing this outfit, would you be like, okay, right.

I mean. Oh my God, that's weird. Yeah, I mean, that's actually a good one. So let's just, this is obviously an extreme level. But maybe that's a bit fashion-y, though, I suppose. That's okay. I mean, I don't think it is. And for me, a guy dressing really, really badly, it would, like,

I don't think it would put me off them, but, like, it would definitely, like, be an issue because I guess that we're so into fashion. Okay, fine. So then what's a turn-off that a guy wears that's not good? Like really, really, really skinny jeans. Sounds like your eyes. Don't know anyone who wears those, do we?

Really, really skinny jeans. Maybe, like, a thick, like, designer belt, like a big Louisis vuitton or gucci belt with them do you know what i mean like that kind of vibe yeah there may be one of those really tight like tops where they like do up all the buttons do you know what i'm saying i know you're saying that kind of vibe that's just not for me and like that's obviously not horrendous but that kind of thing really i don't like i don't like really really tight clothing on what about suited and booted?

I mean, that's fine. Like if they have like a really great job and they're very, very suave, like that's nice as long as it's a nice suit. Okay, what about someone turns up in a kilt? Okay, well, obviously your people, this is a joke. This is a costume. This is a costume.

This isn't your everyday attire. Okay, right. I don't, suggestions on what to do about this because obviously this poor boy like thinks he looks great and you like everything else about him apart from the dress sense so i think 100 tell him i don't think yet what i think that we just need to you know i think we need to just massage the situation it's not gonna like you can't break up with someone because of what they wear if he's great in every other way like it's not gonna stop you from liking him i think

you carry on dating him and then a couple weeks down the line or a couple more dates down the line compliment him on things that you do like him wearing so if you'd like to do something you like you like him wearing be like oh my god i really like this can you wear this sort of thing more often they've been seeing down that route they've been seeing each other the last four months honestly there's nothing sex there's nothing sexier than a girl telling you you look like shit yeah you've just been like look i think we need to change this up that's cool that shows that she cares and also it will put him a bit of down a peg or two so actually he would like it i would like it if someone said that to me sophie says the whole time what the hell are you

wearing and i'm like oh god really yeah but did she start doing that early on? No, she never did it early on. Yeah, see? It's difficult. I guess four months, you're right, you're coming up to six months, that's half a bloody year. That is definitely long enough to be like, okay, I kind of don't like this top.

But you don't want to say, I don't like this, because if the shoe was on the other foot and I had a boy telling me they didn't like what I was wearing, I would be like, what? Yeah, but also, it's the one thing you can change, so why don't you try and change it? Yeah, maybe take him shopping and be like, we need to just revamp your wardrobe, like it's the one thing you can change so why don't you try and change it yeah maybe take him shopping and be like we need to just revamp your wardrobe like it's time for a new wardrobe there you go take him shopping tell him what it is it's the one thing you can change

i think this is a fab idea great idea yeah and also i think it's always a good idea to like mix compliments with like if you're putting someone down about what they wear always put like tell them that they look nice and something you do like them wearing because they don't feel too crap about themselves. What should you wear at night when you're first dating? I mean, it just depends on the venue, doesn't it? What did you wear for your first date with Sophie? Do you remember? The venue? I mean, if you're sharing a bed with someone... Oh, crikey! We're going down on this.

What do you wear? Well, it depends. It depends. Oh, God, yeah. So with the person I'm dating now, I've never sat anything on. But there is people... Why are you looking so shocked?

That is so nothing. That is wild. Wild. That is wild. What did you and Sophie do when you first started seeking a bed together? I think I... No, no, when together? I think I'm always naked.

Always. To be fair, I walk around, Jamie's just sat on the sofa in his socks. Yeah, I think she probably wears... Sophie still wears pyjamas. She wears like a pyjama top and pants. Really? I just get so hot. So if I'm by myself, I'll never sleep with clothes on.

So if I'm having someone that's having a sleepover with me, then I don't want them to touch me or come near me. I will put shorts on and a top. Is that the thing? So if they ever share a bed with you and you put on shorts and a top, they know they're not being lucky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get off me. Get off me right now.

But then what happens if you... You surely straight away don't just get naked. Yeah. Liberal bean over there. No, no, no. I can't go into these details. What the hell are you asking for me? Yes, I don't sleep with clothes on at this point that I'm dating.

That's hilarious. No, I think that's fairly normal. You don't sleep with clothes on. Yeah, that's fair. Now listen, okay, so the answer is to the thing is that we think we should tell... Take him shopping. They should tell... Tell him what you want him to wear.

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Anon, please. So this is from nobody. I fancied this boy for a while and on one night out we kissed and he asked me on a date. But he had uni deadlines so we had to cancel and I couldn't do any other day. I then saw him on a night out and was quite drunk and think I came on too keen. And now he hasn't replied in a while. Can I redeem myself or have I missed my shot? Go Melissa.

Okay. You cannot send him another message ever. Really? Until he, until he messages you. Yeah. Don't, don't, don't't do it do you know what's so funny having having heard all of your things and now sophie's and and you know being very close to you and also sophie to speaking to you every day are you ladies are sneaky sneaky sneaky it's like

a game plan like oh my god the game plans that go on with me and Sophie. The game plans that go on. We asked Jamie's advice as well. And Jamie's like, what? Yeah, what? It's like an operation. It's like, okay, I can't message him at this time. And then can you go on to WhatsApp and see if he's online? If he's online, then I won't go and do that.

Then you'll message him with one word answers. So we're going to message him one word answers. And Sophie's like, yeah'll message him and say then you then you'll message him like with one word answers so we're gonna mess in one word answers and sophie's like yeah i'm messing one word answers and it is like a weird game plan that goes on where i think guys are just literally like okay i'm not gonna talk today or i will talk today we're so black and white there is and then also not only that you get into the heads of the boys you try and guess what they're thinking oh my god it's bananas oh my god no the operations are so oh god the planning of that whole situation was really quite intense and i remember we were really trying to get jamie's input and he was just like you are going mad but the planning of it all is so interesting i'm literally like are you kidding me there is like so much planning that goes on in this thing i know i know i know but you know

that's how you get a good boy because you do have to play a game unfortunately not all not all the time obviously sometimes it does just like happen easily but i always think that like it's always a bit more fun just to like oh it's so shifty okay so so so she found the boy what do we think i'm gonna give a boy's perspective. Okay, they kissed him one night. He asked me to date. It was at night time. He could have been drunk, putting it out there.

But he had a uni deadline, so we had to cancel. That is interesting. So the next day he messaged like, oh, actually I've got a uni deadline. I can't do it. Okay, I'm going to be brutally honest here. As a guy, in my opinion, if you fancy someone, you go for it. You don't care about deadlines.

You don't care about anything. You don't care about this. You don't care about that. He's at uni. He gets drunk. He wants to kiss people. He probably does fancy you. He probably knows you fancy him because you fancied him for a while.

And boys can always tell the same as girls. He then kissed you and asked you on a date because he knew it and then you haven't missed your shot it's more now all you've got to do is play the cold game yeah turn off every emotion so aloof it's the only way yeah why does so aloof work honestly honestly delete his number don't talk to him it will send him wild yeah and maybe get with another boy in front of him as well. He'll be like, oh. That's quite, would you do that? You would do that?

Oh, she's only kissed him once. Like, they're not, like, dating. And if you want to, like, really get his attention, he's going to bum him out a bit. Like, oh, shit, I didn't take her on that date and now she's actually getting with someone else. Maybe I should take her on that date. I remember Melissa and I were in a sort of club thing together.

And I remember we had a couple of drinks and I was quite Melissa and I were in a club thing together and I remember we had a couple of drinks and I was quite drunk and you were standing next to a boy and you didn't really know what to do so you just went... And I just saw you almost in your mind go I'm just going to have to kiss him. So you just went straight in for the kiss. I saw you just put your head in towards him.

You kiss in clubs. Yeah, I do. I'm a club kisser. Okay, so what do we think? What is the answer to this dilemma? I so agree with you. Like I said, you cannot message him again. This is, you know, don't get drunk. I think it's a good idea to delete his number

because if you get drunk, I have a feeling you're probably going to message him. It does drive people crazy when someone's not going to reply to you and that's what it's doing to you. So you need to do it to him. And don't follow him to any other nightclubs. Let him do his own thing.

Oh my God, definitely not. You need to act so aloof. And you know, sometimes it's quite good to be honest with yourself and just be like, you know what? He's just not that into me. And that's all it is. I really want to know on this podcast. Listen, if we give this advice and they follow through for it,

I want to know if we, the answers they, I want to know if it works for them. Oh, no, a lot of people follow up. A lot of people follow up. Do they follow up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God, I want them to follow up so bad. If this works for you, please follow up and let us know if it works. Yeah, let us know.

Because obviously, you know, we're not professionals. We're just. I feel like I'm a professional. Well, I mean, at this point. Dilemma three, go. Dilemma three. Hey, I have a dilemma slash question about drifting apart from friends. As we get older slash get boyfriends and I leave uni, et cetera,

I feel like everyone is doing different things and drifting apart a bit. My best friend has a new boyfriend and she's in a bubble with him and I feel like she's changed, but I haven't lost hope that maybe we will get closer again when she's out of her honeymoon stage i so get this covid definitely hasn't helped the situation but have you guys had any experience of drifting apart from friends but then getting closer again and how did you stop worrying you lost a friend and instead just rebond when i say she's changed it's more like she's just very very focused on him and makes less effort with our friends which i do totally understand because we all do it but i'm hoping

we can get close again without feeling awkward okay you kick it off um i do understand that people's like priorities slightly change when they're in a relationship but i also feel like i've never really like true true true friends i've never drifted apart from at all like if anything me and sophie sophie are closer since you guys got together so like I just think that it's all about having the right balance and some girls can be really stupid and so can boys and they just all like put everything into their relationship and then their relationship breaks up and they've got no friends left yeah that is true happens a lot yeah I had a I had a big thing so my biggest thing was I was at a boarding school from the age of eight so from eight to biggest thing was I was at a boarding school from the age of eight. So from eight to 18 years old, I was at a boarding school.

And so we were always around my friends all the time. Then from like 18 to what, like 22 or 21, I was at university. So I was around friends all the time. And then from like early ages, we was doing MIC. And so I was around friends all the time. And then I got to about age like 25, 26, I reckon, maybe 27, maybe 27 maybe 25 26 and everyone started drifting apart a little bit yeah the big groups that we were always having together became less people in more relationships people became a bit more serious in their relationships people had more

jobs that they had to go to and i found it really tricky i suddenly found myself in a situation where none of my friends were there and people had like drifted apart and for me i suddenly felt this like abandonment feeling that we weren't going to be the same closeness now i totally understand what she's saying and it is friendships do change over the years that's what happens oh for sure you've got to trust the process is that there yeah but just trust the process and also it's okay friends drift and friends change. But also, friends are like gardens. You have to water them to make them grow. So constantly water your friends. It's like such an important thing to do.

Wes Nelson said the greatest thing. He came on Private Parts and he said, make sure you give your friends flowers while they can still smell them. It's quite morbid, actually. Smell them. Smell them? Sorry, I don't know why I just said that. It came out actually. Smell them. Smell them? Sorry, I don't know why I just said that came out weirdly. Smell them.

Why wouldn't you be able to smell them? No, because the whole point is that, like, make sure you look after your friends before it's too late and they've disappeared or something's happened or they've gone. So I understand what she's saying. Friendships never die. They sometimes get put

on hold for a bit but if you want them to work they'll come back and also relationships sometimes do come in the middle of things and things change but she will find a relationship and she will grow stronger with that relationship and then they'll become best friends in different ways yeah i was gonna say yeah it will just be a didn't you haven't necessarily lost her it's just gonna be a different relationship now i mean think about like when you're an adult with children like people don't see their friends all the time do you know what's so true by the way is that um you you have become so much closer not so much closer but you're so spending so much time with so since going out since me and sophie been together um i was just thinking is that fact actually true i don't know

i guess we were really really really close before but she's been with you for so long now i can't actually remember a time when she wasn't with you i think also me me jamie and sophie we didn't used to hang out that much when i was with my ex because my my ex didn't like you very much so that wasn't a spanner and that made you not like me you thought you know i didn't well you didn't not not like me but i feel like it was just hard for it was just hard for me to not piss. The whole thing was very, very odd and very bizarre. But that obviously stopped, I guess, us having a close friendship. It would have naturally have happened.

Yeah, I think so. As in the three of us. But me and Sophie have always been like... So tight. I think since the moment we met, like so, so, so close. Why do you think that is though? And then also we've had Croatia and stuff like that. I don't know. I just think we are actually very similar and then being on me and Chelsea and like emotional roller coasters and I tell you the biggest thing I think about your friendship which is the best

and also this is going back to the last dilemma of friendship is it's the loyalty you have for each other yeah like so loyal and that is so important in life to have that loyalty amongst each other i think so much trust like we tell each other everything everything everything everything and you just know it's not gonna go anywhere else right so we have our little winch the week section now and then i obviously give my single diaries which is no more. Oh my god, oh my god. But we'll get to that in a minute. Oh my god. You give you inch. You've got to save that for Sophie. You can't put that on this episode. I'm not going to give

that much away. She already kind of knows. No, no, as in the audience kind of knows that this has been going out the window. Do they know that? Yeah. Have they heard? Did they even know the name of the boy? No, boy no no no oh my god this is exciting for the listeners you're not gonna look give the name away hello why not when are you gonna give the name away i don't i don't know imagine if his name's lucifer oh sexy the

devil okay right give give you inch then come on okay so uh my winch of the week it's not really a winch but it's what happened as soon as you get engaged I feel like all things go out the window people can poo in front of their partners

it feels like oh shut up you're the most pooey boy I've ever met I know you've always pooed in front of Sophie

I know but I feel like I know I know but I'm just saying I'm going to not do that whinge of the week fine I won't do that whinge of the week my whinge of the week is this Sophie will get annoyed

at me for something which is not fair and I will sit there and I'll go well this isn't fair I will then try and argue with her that it's not fair she will then get cross at me she'll then speak to you you will then tell her that she's not fair. She will then get cross at me. She'll then speak to you. You will then tell her that she's being nonsense. Then she'll come back to me and say, sorry.

You persuade her. You tell her that she can be being silly. And that's the only reason she will realise that she's being silly. Why can't she realise she's being silly when I tell her she's being silly? You know what she does? She does this thing. She goes, she'll tell me. And then I'll say like oh yeah but like blah blah blah and then she go yeah can you just imagine her doing that she's walking she's like yeah okay and then she's fine

with it yeah but it's never like that much of a big blowout it's always just like a little like like it's just like and I'm like oh you're being silly but I actually think I am more easygoing than maybe I should be I think it is quite good that sometimes you have do you think you're easy going around I don't know like sometimes I say I'm really difficult and then some people are like no you're not what do you think you think you have that not in terms of like whatever what do you think you have that can be annoying? My traits now is that I'm expecting a lot from people. Oh, okay. I mean, you know this.

Yeah, but that's just such a bad thing to have. And also, anything that's like said to me that's like the slightest bit. So say if someone's like, no, I actually can't. Say if I invite someone somewhere and they're like, no, I can't make that. So let's say I ask this boy out on a date and he's like oh i'm actually busy that night i will just take that as rejection and then i'll call sophie being like i'm sacking this off now i'm sacking it off like i'm done like that's i'm throwing my toys out the pram quite a lot i don't know why uh you're becoming impatient yeah and like the fear of not the fear of reject like the fear of like being rejected first it's

like so like at the top i don't know why so i'm almost like i want to sack it off now also no i feel like with you but perhaps i'm wrong is i feel like that your biggest fear is that you're going to waste another few years so you're so you're literally like you almost look for issues in a sun in someone or something you're like okay it's not going to work you need to find someone new yeah yeah yeah because you're so worried that you're going to be suddenly i know 34 you're so young you're gonna be like and then suddenly left firstly i think that's where your impatient comes from yeah maybe you're right i don't know so that's like a new bad trait that i'm having this is another conversation

that jamie ever had the other day listen i feel if I'm honest, you need to save this for Soph. That's what you need to do. And have those conversations. But I tell you what I love about your podcast is it's just like a natter. It's a natter, but it's also so much inside speech. Oh my God, so much inside. So much.

I really want to, please, to all the people that we read out the dilemmas today, can you please, please, please let me know how it goes? Give us a follow-up. Especially on the one with the boy, you kissing the boy in the car. Yeah, I want to know so bad. Yeah.

You know, I actually think for someone to cancel on a date is so fine as long as they suggest an alternative. So if he was like, look, my deadline's this week. I've got to get this done. However, after my deadline, can I take you out on the Friday or something?

Let's do something then. That would have been fine. Do you know what i mean god how interesting you can't reject someone and then not and then not follow up with like an alternative because then that means they're really interested you wise wise little thing i know so wise okay rate me out of 10 before you rate your wine. How good a co-host am I? You're not as good as Sophie, obviously. Jesus.

I'm going to give you a 7.5, only because we didn't have any wine and it wasn't that spicy wine-wise. 7.5? You didn't even have a non-alcoholic wine with me. 7.5? If you'd have had non-alcoholic wine, I would have given you up to an 8, maybe a 9. Oh, my God. What would you rate me as a co-host?

I would say you're a 10. Oh, thank you, I know. Minus 4. Okay, what are you rating the wine as? I've rated this before, and I can't remember, and it's going to be really inconsistent if I rate it a different rating. Go on, I can't wait. I think I to be really inconsistent if I rate it a different rating. Go on, I can't wait.

I think I'm going to rate this a seven and a half, the same as I rated you, Jamie. Everything's a seven and a half today. Everything's a seven and a half today. Solid seven and a half. All right, honey. Listen. Just to be. Hopefully Sophie's going to be better.

She'll be back on the next episode. Big shout out to all you listeners and big shout out to you guys. This podcast is fab and it's going from strength to strength, so well well done thank you so much and we love it and we love you guys and i can't wait for next week we've got so much fun stuff also can't we talk about planning the wedding i know sorry guys it's gonna be so much fun oh the hen do yeah we've got to tell you some places but she'll tell you that okay listen okay love you Love you all. See you laters. Bye I do. Daily Jackpots. A chance to win with every spin and a guaranteed winner by 11 p.m. every day. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling problem? Call 1-866-531-2600.

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