Wednesdays - Ep 47: EX IN THE FRIENDSHIP GROUP ft. Ruby Adler

Episode Date: March 9, 2022

We are back drinking our favourite wine with our favourite person Ruby Adler. Not only is she one of our MIC family, she also gives stunning advice, so listen in! We talk red flags in a relationship, hanxiety, exes in the friendship group and let our feelings be known about pooing in front of a new partner. This week we are drinking our fave Jamshed: https://groceries.morrisons.com/products/jam-shed-shiraz-477268011Ruby Rating: 8Melissa Rating: 8 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are back and we are back for one night only with a special, special guest. Who she is? With the most special guest, Tiny Tim. Ruby Adler! Oh my god, it's such an honour. AKA Tiny Tim. Can I hear it for Ruby Adler? Tiny Tim has really stuck, hasn't it? Everyone now calls me Timothy. Can I just put this out there? It came from me. Moi, Sophie, me, and me only. But the whole one. But also, it's so funny because it's not only Ruby we call Tiny Tim.

I only call you Tiny Tim. No, I hear Ruby call Jack Tiny Tim. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. One of our producers. And I just find it the funniest thing. I'm like, everyone's a Tiny Tim. Like, if you're sweet, you're just a Timmy. It's like the fresh thing. If like everyone's a tiny tim like if you're sweet you're you're just a timmy fresh thing if you're a sweetheart you're a timmy and the funny thing is

is i never really knew what the character was i was like i don't know where it came from just knew tiny and was like ruby's pretty much the tiniest person i've ever met and my mum was like no it's from screws the tiny little boy who breaks his leg. Yeah. So there we go. Sweet, Tim. Quite sweet. Yeah, very sweet. So we've got Ruby on here today, girls and boys, to help us answer some dilemmas and just chat all things that we always chat about. We are separated from each other.

Suddenly, me and Ruby are together and Sophie's at the other end of the camera having an old G&T. I know, they've got the old jam shell out and I had to go for a G&T because it a bit lonesome to open up i know i do agree i do i don't think i've ever had this wine before it's quite delicious it's so smooth what do you think wait you're gonna rate it at the end but having a soup is what flavors delightfully sweet i could have this as dessert it's delicious and i'm not a massive red drinker no neither but this is going down a tree i know swimmingly it's just easy to drink i will also say you know guys when you like first start drinking wine and it like hits like your muscles and your bones almost you can feel it in your joints

that's just happened to me that's the best part of wine is the first few sips like or like the first like yeah it's just gone down like into my body i'm like i'm drinking alcohol like it's happening in my body it's like it's like a warm massage hands like on the surface it's a wonderful feeling for you and they're they're just oh yeah it is a lovely feeling oh my god can we also just talk about sorry we have to talk about kendall jones hair really quickly have you seen it right so have you seen it i i think it's a vibe i think a lot of people are doing it. My friend Bella wants to go red. No, no, no, no, no.

Her hair's so beautiful. I like it. I think shit's cool. I think it's a bit Maver. Maver from Made in Chelsea vibe. It is quite Maver from Made in Chelsea. It is quite Maver, but I feel like... I love a fringe now.

Now I might get one cut. I would look terrible with one. To be fair... You look really good with a fringe. You look really nice with the fringe. Do you think I would? I hate mine now. I did ask for it.

It's not like my hairdresser did the wrong job, but job but like you know what i really want to do we do not have a fringe we have a choppy you know cheekbone collar shape of the face i know me and ruby were together yesterday and ruby was like i'm gonna cut my hair i was like don't do it i don't love to go really short i was trying to find a picture oh my god i mean don't i'm so split between like wanting to cut my hair into a bob you know these two pictures yeah? Yeah. Where you're like, it's like what I want. And it's like this really fit girl with this like lovely like bob. And then it's like what I also want. This girl with like mermaid long hair.

And it's like I want both. I want both. Okay, putting it out there. I've done, I've done the short hair. Do you remember? Shrank her into, just no, no. Summer's coming up. No, the ill people.

Yeah, yeah, don't do it. I will never do it. If you've got short hair and you rock it like epic. But if you've got long hair like all three of us do. You're not going to. Keep it. You miss it. I love wearing my hair up too much as well. Yeah, yeah, that's so true. Especially like now. It you've got long hair like all three of us do you're not keeping it you miss it i'll have up too much as well yeah that's so true especially like now it's like day two hair

and i'm like oh bit greasy you can tie it up and it looks yeah i'm with you couldn't do that you have to consistently wash it or always have a tiny little bun for me i'm getting to that ripe old age where i need the the facelift the cheap you know the cheap face snatch tight tight ponytail she doesn't need a face yeah that's what you you mean the snatch oh yeah i need a facelift i wore um one to an event the other day and i went and actually got like the ponytail done she's like three ponytails and then tied oh yeah yeah so your hair looks really long yeah it was so tight and it was all done with grips so like elastic and then she gripped it. But, like, sticky elastic. Like, ow.

Oh, wow. And then I obviously ripped it out the night I got back. And then today and yesterday, I was in the gym. And I just kept finding these clips. Shit. You were like, oh, dear. Yeah, I'm like, ow. Okay.

Moving on. Moving on. So, Rihanna's maternity look. What are our thoughts, girls? You know what? I rate her for like all these like out there like fashion movements that really cool picture that the announcement that happened like her jeans can we just talk about

yeah with the belly chain they were all over the floor the jeans were so long they were like this this too long they were like scraping along the floor and I was like god that really makes me feel a bit anxious but that um I don't think I personally wear that for me it's not a vibe but you know it's rihanna i feel like she just i can't imagine you melissa being pregnant don't don't be so rude i should wear that if i wanted to watch me i mean i so agree i personally don't

think that's it off she looks like a vibe i mean it's yeah she could wear anything yeah that baby is gonna be beautiful wow how cool is it gonna be what i will say about that outfit is the boots are really bumming me out like i wish she'd worn some like stilettos like the boots just look wrong with it i'm just gonna put it out there don't don't think that peyton's a massive rihanna fan but i just i also kind of feel like it might have been a bit nicer with some more shorts vibe underneath there like a brief ruff and a thong yeah

I quite rate the thong she's going for it the top half with the belly out and the bralette I think that's really cool and all the diamonds which has been stunning I'm just cropping it in it's the bottom half you're right the boots the boots aren't quite

what I would have gone for just because they're almost they're too tight like if she was going to do baggy bites just no we're really going in to analyse it

sorry Rihanna slated go with the fashion police yeah anyway you're beautiful in your pregnant that used to be a show the fashion police

yes it did with Jane Rivers I used to watch it they would just slate everyone's outfits it was so with Jane Rivers. I used to watch it. They would just slate everyone's outfits. It was so good. Trini and Susanna, I loved that. I loved them as well.

Trini was always the really cool one. Trini used to work below you, didn't she? She was, yeah, literally above us. She's, like, taken over that whole building. She's doing so well with her makeup line. I'm so joking. And also, like, do you know what? This is where social media has come in handy

because I don't know whether Susanna really took to social media whereas trinny did yeah she's blown her career out because she's actually so joked i love it when she walks out the front door like slam storm behind she's like right today i'm wearing this this and this and this yeah but like i watched one once where she like shut like like she was wearing a trench coat and like the string of the trench coat got shut in the door and it was really funny and she was showing what she was wearing and she went to turn around stuck in the door she uploaded it and i was like gonna rate you also jace i think that's enough when like her tit came out when she was doing like a like a live thing and she was just like oh that's my boob i'm not quite sure but i remember seeing it oh that's funny oh sophie can

we please touch on that courtney kardashian sex thing because i really need to talk about this well i want to learn about it i don't know i don't know ruby yeah so basically i read this article today courtney kardashian and travis barker her fiance went on some sex abstinence where basically it was like a long stinted sex fast so they refused to have sex with another. They haven't specified for how long. Yeah, I'm like, is it two weeks or is it a month? And then she kind of referred to like, you know, like if you cut caffeine out your diet

and then you have a coffee for the first time in a month, like that caffeine hit is like super strong and you feel amazing. Right. So it was, I'm presuming she was saying like the longer you'd go without sex and then you have it again. No, I think that's a bit bizarre. I also think you can get yourself into a rut of, like, once you stop sleeping together,

then it's, like, almost a habit not to have sex. Because, again, it's like the caffeine in the chocolate. Yeah, it's an addiction. The addiction goes. No, it's true, actually. And also, not going to lie, like, I'm not having sex three times a day and it's no different. Yeah, I'm with you.

Like, it's great, but it's no different. Do you know what I mean? I'm not like, whoa, euphoria, I'm going having sex a few times a day and it's no different yeah I'm with you but it's no different do you know what I mean I'm not like whoa euphoria I'm not going to have sex no yeah yeah

I'm going on a sex fast because I'm going to but I don't want to going on holiday for a week because that would be quite interesting oh my god unless you're still

in the early stages where you literally probably have sex three times a day I hate you yeah it's true oh my god not three times a day

yes I swear on my life I swear on my life hand on heart you don't have sex three times a day every I swear on my life I swear on my life Hand on heart You don't have sex Three times a day Every day Two Every day

Sometimes twice But most of the time It's three If he's here all day It will be three God my parents Please don't listen to this My mum's gonna listen to this

Oh for fuck's sake I'm so Do you know what You know when we Jamie and I were going to Mexico And I went Melissa and she I said Melissa and Toby

Might go to Tulum and he was like oh my god I'm going to call Toby now like let's all go to the same hotel I went can't can't

they're going to be having so much sex they're going to put me to shame yeah but they won't no it's not like we'll do it in front of you yeah but then

you're going to come out and be like oof just have sex and I will look like the old prude who isn't shagging my boyfriend every five minutes

but I can't do it as you said I'm two years younger than you it's fine just blame it on me and also we've been going out for three years oh god am i it does just sort of really can you back me up yeah of course it of course it does but i also think it depends on the testosterone from man like if some boys like i had a relationship once that was three years long and it never died out because he had so much testosterone do you know what i mean i think yeah to be fair it's also like they're just there's testosterone levels oh let me tell you my dying out on jamie's beside it it's my side is he's ready to go night and day i'm just like no no yeah res is pretty ready to go night and day let me sleep i'm too

i'm too i get too tired i don't get me wrong like if it's really put like in the in bed but i'm not like it used to be like i remember when i lived in fulham he would like honestly get his moped literally just come like we'd have 10 minutes and i was like oh damn fine because now i'm like i'll take it off the list now i'm ready for my afternoon but now it's like no chance if he tried it on with me in the middle of the day when i've got something slap that penis away i'd be like huh what are you doing i'd literally like absolutely not and he knows like no not to go there maybe on a sunday but maybe on a sunday if i'm feeling really up to it pushing it all the way it's so funny

that our couples who like schedule not to name and shame I'm sure my sister wouldn't mind me saying but she was like yeah we have sex every Sunday

and I was like what do you mean every Sunday well it's just part of their routine it's just our Sunday regime sweet yeah it's quite nice

you've got to keep yeah you do you have to keep it alive and also if it's like ooh Sunday hello and they just know like oh it's gonna happen look forward to it on a Saturday night every time i'm like for some reason when

you're bloated like even after i've had a big old meal and i'm like god i'm so bloated i just couldn't think of anything else as soon as you start having sex it goes away the bloat goes maybe that's the trick also apparently you burn more calories doing a fake or something a real one orgasm really oh bollocks it depends how good you are acting yeah but i'm sure people like overcompensate when they're acting it so you're burning more calories yeah no wait wait i need to talk about a coffee but what about like when you queef queef i still die i still die the situation hasn't happened to me in honestly years what's a queef? A queef is like when you, obviously air goes into your vagina. Oh, that, yeah.

It's like pop, pop, pop. Yeah, yeah, funny part. Pop. And you go, it wasn't me, and they're like, oh, take my, but it's like, it wasn't me. But I'm like, no, it wasn't out of my bag. It wasn't me, it was my vagina.

Yeah, it wasn't me. God, it's, yeah. Should we discuss this little poll that we did? Because this is a dilemma basically we had a dilemma last week a girl wrote in about her boyfriend having sorry guys me and ruby just munching on popcorn so professional having a lovely time here with the jam shed and the popcorn um yeah so she wrote in with a dilemma that her boyfriend they've been together for like a couple

months right and official for like what three weeks official boyfriend girlfriend he asked her and she was like oh do you still have the dating app or whatever they met on like hinge or whatever and he was like yeah yeah I still have it but it's paused and like wouldn't delete it so we did a poll basically asking the audience my words exactly keeping dating apps on your phone in a relationship even if pause yes fine no way 97% of you said no way which I so agree with but why would he want to keep exactly it's almost like the point in having it there he's pre-meditating that they're going to break up so he's just like oh my as well click a button can get a girl i so think

also can i also just say even when the app's pause you can still speak to speak to people on it yeah it's dodge already that's Actually, you guys agreed with us because 97% of you said no way and 3% said yes. Fine, and I'm guessing those 3% of you did it. Also, I did do a bit of checking on who voted for no way and Toby said no way, thank God.

Toby kicked the no way. Oh, good. Goodbye. Goodbye. I was like looking out for that. Oh, no, wait, we've got these quickfire questions quite like these you want to go through them sophie all right i love a change up in the itinerary do wait so i quick file them to you too and you give me answers i think we answer should we all answer them all right to opposites attract yes yes and no definitely i think that

if you're so so different and there's nothing in common it's really hard to find a common ground and enjoy things together if you don't like anything that's the same um but all my boyfriends have been pretty much opposite to me I would say yeah but you and Jamie still enjoy the same things I imagine if Jamie was like I don't like going out to eat oh it's so true yeah you know you have to have a common ground of some sort but I think it's also interesting when you're different to somebody it's almost like it's so true, yeah. You have to have a common ground of some sort, but I think it's also interesting when you're different to somebody. It's almost like the personality could be opposite, but I think if your likes and interests are very different,

then maybe not. That would be difficult. Yeah, you have to have some sort of a line. What do you think, Rue? Yeah, you need to have some form of common ground. But then also quite interesting if you're super into different things, you get to do things you may not normally do. Yeah.

Try new stuff, I do agree. Yeah. And appreciate new things in in life tips on tackling anxiety oh tell me guys i don't know i love a debrief in the morning like and like you don't get anxiety after a night out so you don't know but ruby and i actually do oh my god i get the worst anxiety after a night out i've actually had to like just you just cut out going out no ruby just doesn't speak to someone for like a week she'll get anxiety she's like no can't speak to a soul for five days no it's normally a day yeah it's normally a day it's not a week but she's like i just had to take time off to be fair i haven't really done that in over a year i mean now i think i'm better at dealing with it i used to be terrible i would just not go on my phone

i'd go into like a bit of a hole I think getting older you and the more you go out and the more you drink the more you know the hangover is coming the more you can like deal with the hangover better yeah I also just feel like I don't go out as much I know we don't know as good as we used to I don't have the anxiety and then I always weigh up like am I going to feel like, obviously of course there are moments where you go out and you wake up and you feel awful but if you can just restrict that to less then

it's never as bad. There's that thing that's not in the night now and it's not like you don't go ahead first, it's more like is this worth it, am I going to wake up feeling shit and then you hold yourself back and then you're not feeling it I think we've just grown up mentally However, if you want advice for anxiety, I shit and then you hold yourself back and then i can manage to call it mentally yeah however if you want advice for anxiety i think actually call your mate even though ruby does not do this but i

think it would have happened you did actually you did call me you would yeah and you would call me yeah and we'd face time because then it makes it so like remember guys the nTAs when I literally lost my shit nothing is worse than that that was a nightmare I don't know one person could get so violently drunk and I'm not really an angry drunk I'm a pretty fun drunk

you weren't angry you got upset I called him a C-U-N-T but that's because he was getting angry with you because of how drunk you were you weren't automatically pissed off you were quite like it just hit you so quick i just happened i didn't eat i didn't eat and i yeah that you gotta eat yeah we basically had this buffet of food and none of it was like for your diet so you couldn't eat really anything there could you yeah and we were fueled by champagne i think champagne just sends you west oh my god it does it makes me hammered hammered i have half a glass i'm on the floor it's the bubbles it goes into your bloodstream quicker i do love it though like

a cold glass of champagne my sister and i kept saying no not Prosecco you've got to go with the champagne I don't quite like Prosecco I do quite like a Prosecco I find Prosecco is a bit lighter I hate it it's just sweeter but I like

I hate how sweet it is I don't think it's sweeter I think it's less sweet if anything and less strong like sometimes champagne is like do you know what I mean

no but it's much sweeter that's what Prosecco is it's much sweeter it's just a different grape but it's a sweeter grape and it is lighter it is more drinkable. I like the sparkling wine.

Oh. Yeah, I love sparkling wine too. Fill her up please. There you go. A little bit of a jam shed. I also think if you've got anxiety as hard as it is and sometimes you just want to like

recluse and like not get out of your bed get yourself out of the house. So agree. Because you will feel better. Yeah. First thing you do I know this is so rank to say but first thing you do you know i know this is so right to say

but first thing you do on a hangover you never really really want to get straight in the shower like but you feel so much get in the shower and wash your hair yeah do not not wash your hair totally agree and you're a different person something about it something about the wet wash away the guilt you're so right and then order yourself a lovely breakfast but maybe don't order yourself like McDonald's breakfast because that can also

make you feel worse healthy healthy healthy breakfast lovely big old healthy breakfast avo on toast with like scrambled eggs or something

smoked salmon if you can go out for breakfast with your mate yeah go out for a brunch and go on a nice walk get that air and also there's nothing wrong with napping

the next day having friends on your lovely wholesome TV show FaceTime your friends debrief nap have a and then also laugh at the night before yeah don't take it too seriously it's happened whatever's happened happened at some point you'll properly be able to laugh about it so just laugh about it the next day yeah and also okay our key things are shower friends and as in torture friends and nap yeah because i think the minute i've like napped i wake up and i'm like oh my god i'm not anxious at all i feel fine

like what the hell is this sketchy about yeah totally agree so so true okay last one what are instant red flags for someone you're seeing in a relationship with oh this is a good one i feel like this honestly i really don't like no no no no a red flag as in like for me a red flag is like something that they do not something that they wear like something that happens like in those first three weeks of you dating

and that's like a hiccup and you're like oh that's a serious red flag if they like lit my belly button I'd be like I feel like if they did something really rogue

on a night out or something and then oh you know what I mean on a night out sorry I know Toby yeah this has happened to me guys I honestly was like

oh also this is a oh there's a big confession that needs to come from this night out that I'm like I'm like a penting on Sophie's lactose huh I've got a big confession from that night out oh my god tell us all I know I haven't told Toby yet wait which sorry which night I was there so on New Year's Eve well I know you like do I know yes you do because you can oh I know this i know what you're every i said honestly no he doesn't know that it's a lie about what about what i've done to be fair just have we not told the viewers it was no no no no the viewers don't know anything oh wait maybe i don't know i should we tell you guys no you know yeah i think i do a lot of people in on the slide basically toby if you're listening to this just

shut your ears i was really pissed off with Toby because he kept like leaving me like drunk like going to the bar whatever and I was obviously with all these people I didn't know on New Year's Eve which was like his family like his friends which was very lovely but I was also like I don't really know Toby that well I've been dating him like what a month and I it was like the first time meeting his friends and his family were in this big old soho house and I was being left alone the whole time I was drunk my feet were killing me and I was like no you know what I've waited till 1am I can go so I said to his. I was drunk. My feet were killing me. And I was like, no, you know what? I've waited till 1am. I can go. So I said to his brother, I was like, look, I'm going to leave now. And he was like, oh, wait, wait for Toby to come. But anyway,

I said goodbye to Toby. And I basically made it seem like I was so fine with leaving. I was like, honestly, it's fine. It's just my feet are hurting. Like nothing's wrong. Like no, no. Anyway, I left. Get in the taxi. I start crying, holding holding my shoes and I'm like it's done it's done he's dead to me like this is such a bad flag I've got to set this off now like I'm so heartbroken because you felt that he was leaving you out yeah yeah he was like neglecting me I was like he just doesn't care about me like this this sucks and I'm facetimed I got back home and I my best friend was having a new year's eve party so Toby thinks the story is I left Soho house and went straight to my friend's New Year's Eve party and stayed there until 6am

I didn't I came straight home cried cried went to sleep woke up at 6am because I think you'd messaged me and it just woke me up I facetimed you facetimed Ali I facetimed Ali first and she was like oh the party's still going on do you want to come and I was like no no no I feel so told everything that happened she was like we're not gonna she was like don't tell him that you went home and cried tell him that you came here and that you had a fun night like don't make him think that like he's had an effect i fully lied so he was still on whatsapp he whatsapped me like wherever you like what are you doing and i was like oh just got home i was in bed the whole time on face time to sophie and jamie like right What are we going to do here Like we were constructing

Like this whole thing I'm sure we've told him No he doesn't He has no idea He must have thought You were such a goer Going into like six in the morning I know

Well anyway So he doesn't know But he knows there's a lie Well Toby if you know now You know if that's so too late To have a lie He knows there's a lie Around the evening

But yeah He probably thinks It's like A text He probably thinks The lie is a text you he probably thinks the lies you pretending you were fine it's quite gently yeah don't tell him you were crying it's also that i cried i got the text and i cried you were like it's over i love how girls can mentally do that you can like mentally tell yourself you're like it's done done oh my god every time the amount of arguments i've had with Rez no done never

and you literally say oh it's like me on the NTA she knew and you're just like we're done yeah that's it no

and they're like your friends are like you guys are gonna be fine and you're like no we're not we're over that's it break up

he's moving out tomorrow yeah that's what Sophie was like she was like no no he's gonna leave the flat I'm not leaving it's my fucking house we tried to go round didn't we I was like we was like no no he's gonna leave the flat I'm not leaving it's my fucking flat we tried to go round

didn't we I was like we're coming to help you guys it was I was in the nest me and Sophie called no me and Ruby

FaceTimed each other like okay if they break up this is gonna be really bad bear in mind we were also hammered like we're all hammered we were drunk trying to hammer this conversation

and Jamie's old guy was sober as a judge and he was just like what the fuck are these drunken girls one of those guys guys you just know people asking for photos at greenwich tube sophie's like crying so rational heel in hand and then this whole family comes over like oh my god sophie jimmy you have a photo and they just get their shit together And take this picture And Sophie's got her makeup all over her face I'll never forget that image in my mind

It was the best thing I've ever seen I had my heels in my hand I was like the show must go on Remember Melissa was like I'll take my heels off to stand by her I took mine off too Honestly that was the biggest protest ever Did you take yours off too? Yeah Tim took hers off

No no no you didn't. No, I didn't. We were all for yours. Jamie's like, Sophie, you must put your heels on. We're going on a tube. It's dangerous. And I went, I'm not. And Melissa went, I'll take them off with her.

Right, anyway, we need to get over this because I'm really divulging improperly. Look at the picture. Wait, we just need to reminisce. This is our group chat. No! Sophie gets home and she sends us a photo Of her crying There's honestly like tears

And it's like This really close up selfie Like help Oh my god It's too good Right Okay okay okay Back to red flags

Do you want to read out the red flags Oh yeah Is when you're dating someone and it's been a few dates and they refuse to have their phone that way upwards oh yeah and also they take their phone to the loo you're like fucking hell why are you being so shady and they just have their phone like facing yeah i'm so constantly i do that out of habit but you're clearly not messaging someone i honestly even take my phone to the loo now when it's just jamie and me if they don't i don't know why it full-on habit. Obviously, there's nothing to hide.

I just take my phone to the movie. It can be habitual, yeah. I also just spend too much time. Sometimes I think when you have a gut feeling about someone's phone, like you have a gut feeling. Yeah, you need to know you don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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which was over six years ago. I'm not so worried about the wedding day, but the hen do is a major concern. I'm hoping to go on a weekend away for my hen do. There will be about 15 girls, so it's not like they have to speak, but I'm really worried about them not being together in such a close proximity.

I'm not sure whether to invite the girl that is no longer part of the friendship group because i don't want my hen do to be uncomfortable and i can't not invite my maid of honor they fell out because my two best friends called her out for being bitchy and they did not include her in a joint birthday present on mine patty i know we were in sixth form at the time right i think it's your day they need to just put their differences aside for you all day but equally I would feel the energy

and it pisses me off I probably would have to make a sacrifice and say to that one person look you out of everyone this is the only one that maybe doesn't get on with the other girls for whatever reason or I would say please please to both of them separately please please just make it work for my day.

And if you really don't think you can, I will then have to like uninvite, you know, one of them can't come. Obviously the maid of honor's got to go because that's obviously her close friend. But it's a real shame. But I would give them the option and be like, look, guys, it was six years ago. It would mean a lot to me. It's my wedding day. They might have like a big reminisce and like become friends again. Like it might be quite a nice like makeup moment. I do feel like as you've fallen out for six years though you've grown so

much as people yeah you're a different person yeah yeah but like i think they would just get on for the sake of your day like if they don't then it's like send someone of them home i do think that you're right i think that conversation would be quite nice to have like very civil like look i want you both there but if you don't think you can get on like give them the choice if you obviously my maid of honor has to be there if you don't think it's gonna work then you're gonna have to make the decision whether or not you can be there or not because I don't want it to affect my day god it is so hard all these politics so political isn't it oh my god it's beyond guys you're preaching to the frigging choir so this is ex in the friendship group one for ruby so me and my ex are in the same uni friendship group and even though we are broken up every time we go out we always end up sleeping together and

he makes comments such as shall we just get back together i've got with other people and he hates it seeing him get with the girls wasn't nice, but I've accepted we aren't together anymore and he can technically do what he wants. I know the simple solution is to stop sleeping together. However, after a few bottles of wine, this just isn't easy. I just wanted to ask Ruby how she dealt with an ex being in her friendship group

or if you girls have any advice on what's best. Oh my God. All I can say is once alcohol's is i mean once ruby's not back with him so that's oh yeah so he's no longer my ex yeah now the current bf now the current bf but we were not together for nearly eight months um i guess was close to a year and for the first four to five months we just didn't really speak yeah we didn't speak it was easier that way I saw I did see him out and learned after a couple of drinks it wasn't healthy for us to be in the same room because I would see something I didn't like he would see something he didn't like so I would try and remove myself from the situation there was still a lot of love there which I think makes it so difficult yeah because you when you

still when you get upset by seeing something like that it's because you still care like that's the only yeah reason for having that and I think I then came to terms with the fact because I was still so bothered however many months down the line I wanted to try again because I thought if I was so emotionally checked out why would I still care so much just would not care um I think I tried to tell myself that I was didn't care and I was over it because I felt like that was the right thing to do and I'd gone through so far I'd gone so far with it you were like oh I've got to commit to what I've done I've got to commit to continuing this um but you know for whatever reasons we've managed to put our differences aside and you know start again and actually we are both really happy and in a much happier healthier relationship than what

we previously were and we've both worked on ourselves and all of that that's not that's not the point here I think in terms of I kind of being friend writing this in as well like you're really considering getting back with them like to write that into us like is that I think you have to weigh up like why you guys broke up and why you're not back together for the fact that he's saying should we just get back together it's clearly on his mind he's thinking clearly he's wanting to try and do that um would you want to try and get back with him I almost think that this is I think this is like you've got to go you've got to try this again and at least you then tick that box. What if,

if you're still being drawn to each other like that after a breakup, like you're just not done with it. I don't think. Yeah, that's what we said to Ruby and like look, Ruby's proof of the pudding.

Yeah. Like they're back together and happier than ever and you know what, you give it another go. If it doesn't work out, then at least you know you tried. You tried.

Yeah, exactly. And you have no regrets. Otherwise you're just in this limbo stage. Which is actually the worst stage out of all of it and that gray area is not fun i always said this to ruby i was like you like you always need to make a decision one way or another because if you keep just being this limbo stage you're going to end up hating each other because you don't there's no line the gray area like you could then get with someone you could then do you know go out or text or do whatever and then and then you end up hating each other and then it's done yeah so totally I think

give it another shot I think there's still love there I think there's still love there also like I always think I think there's I really believe in second chances and like second goes I mean you're the proof of the 10th go but like having another chance because you do grow and change as people so like sometimes like when you try again you're like oh god this works better than it did the first time like it's just great totally agree hi girls I have a dilemma so my mum and dad have been divorced for quite some time and due to my dad cheating on my mum with the current woman he's married to oh my gosh she's not a very nice person me and my sister have refused to ever have anything to do with her years later we still don't have contact with her and we talk to our dad all the time but

only see him occasionally for meals and walks now me and my sister have boyfriends our dad is refusing to meet them because he won't because we won't meet his wife for obvious reasons. Oh, what a douche. This is just so petty and immature. Is this fair blackmail? Should me and my sister just back down and meet her just so our boyfriends can have a relationship with our dad? Or should we stand our ground? Please help.

I just feel so bad on my boyfriend. My dad basically doesn't want to get to know him. I would personally just go meet his wife and just be pleasant and say well you're old enough now and unfortunately it looks like he's in he's obviously in love with her and like they obviously make each other very happy if he's married her like i know it's really hard to like see this when it's your parents because what i'm thinking about is my parents it makes me feel sick no i mean like look i've been there i really really would be sick to my stomach but you have to just suck

it out yeah and also your dad i also think like you don't sometimes if you look at it as a complete like black and white situation and you see like two people together but then one of them out of the relationship fell in love with somebody else you can't help falling in love yeah yeah no i get that melissa but equally like the dad that's so oh my god the blackmail situation is yeah also like sorry putting a hypothetical if my dad cheated on me my mom yeah he would totally understand and you know never ask i come from a broken family there is no way in hell they would be like i'm so sorry i've broken the family up blah blah unfortunately i do blah. Unfortunately, I do really love this person. And then you make it work.

There is not even an ounce in my mind that they'd be like, I'm not going to see your family. I'm not going to meet your boyfriend unless you make it up with my wife. People do things that are silly sometimes. People act unrationally. Maybe he doesn't realize how stupid his actions are. Yeah. There's a part of me that's like sometimes you do just have to accept what's happened that's in the past and like yeah i agree and be happy for like your parents because

clearly your dad is happy with this woman he wouldn't have married her he wouldn't have broken up your family exactly you don't have to like her but you can be happy for him happy for him and like be polite to her but the whole process of him being like i'm only gonna meet your boyfriends if you come and meet my wife is really messed up but he probably like misses you being in his life and I'm guessing the new wife wants you to be in her life as well as much as you probably just hate her guts she's probably like I would love it if we could all be a family and it's probably like a pressure on their relationship that you guys don't probably has more to do with it and she probably probably gets really

upset by it which is like difficult because I understand why she'd get upset but equally she's probably like I did break up with my family so I get it and it's like this is just a terrible situation terrible terrible that's really sad but okay so what's she gonna do what's she gonna do what should we think

I think that you should reach out to the I wouldn't even go to your dad I think that the most mature and like monumental thing you could do would be to go directly to his wife or the woman he had the affair with and just be like all different sides you're obviously with my dad for the long run you make him happy and because of that i accept you and that makes me happy yeah yeah um would love to meet you for coffee go meet her don't even involve your dad that would melt his soul that you've done that you've done it go with your sister as well go all three go with your sister and just say we'd love to see you let's put a different size you make my dad

happy and that makes me happy and then the rest of it is history he'll he'll be so over the moon and he'll want to meet your boyfriend and yeah you know and then and then it will go from there that's my suggestion life is just too short actually it is life is too short that's so true it really is you have to just get over things I mean that's so easier said than done when it's your parents like I can't even imagine it but like you just do it's kind of like the only way I can think about it is if like you've got a really really really really really close friend or a sister and they're with a boy that you just hate and it's like they've cheated on them treated them like shit or whatever and you just can't stand them like or can't bear to be around them I can imagine like it's like that obviously but like a million gazillion times

worse but like you just have to swallow it and like just get on with it like we've all got friends and we don't like the boyfriends but we just get on with it right yeah for the sake of the friend's happiness yeah so i don't know it's harder when it's your parents i don't really actually have that but yeah i do know that most people do yeah to be fair neither do i but but people do yeah yeah but that's my suggestion i would go so i think it'd really shock your dad i think it'd make him super proud i think that your dad's also been petty so i actually wouldn't go to him I'd go straight to him I think your dad owes you an apology

So do I So I think embarrass him And make him realise how mature And you're taking the higher ground And go straight to her Yeah and be like I obviously want you to be happy But I do think that it wasn't fair

For you to put me in the position of like Having to do that Like it would have been nice if it came from Like you It would have been nice if it came from like you it would have been nice if you wanted to do it from your own self rather than making him pressure you into doing it almost but here we are things like that happen all the time what's next on the agenda for today okay so next on the agenda we have my marriage update and then we have not so single vibes so marriage update i'm feeling like the loveliest bride ever because i met i met my wedding

for the first time in person and i decided to go without jamie and then we decided they said that we should like make my email like sophie and jamie and basically they said that we should like make my email like Sophie and Jamie. And basically they said that I could choose everything. And I was like, perfect. Perfect. We're all on the same page. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm feeling like, whoop-a-doo-ba-doo. And then next week we go to Spill.

So I just choose that. Lovely. Stunning. Oh my God, is that next week? Tuesday. Oh my God, it's a death situation. We have to wake up at like 3am, get there. No, no, exciting, exciting, exciting.

Okay, yeah, yeah. Are you back the same day the next morning yeah don't be negative it just it just enjoy it it'll be lovely enjoy it'll be magical waking up early in the night to go for a flight there's nothing like that magical feeling is there okay right so single diaries not single diaries um okay so i know it's a disgusting topic but it has has to be discussed. Pooing in front of your partner. Or pooing, what is it? Like, pooing in front of your partner. Yeah. Obviously, like, pooing around him.

Obviously, it would never be in front of somebody else. But, like, in the same vicinity. Do you know what I mean? It's like, when do you do that? How long does it take? I've never had to have a situation... Well, we've never spent enough time together all in one go that I've actually needed to do it. It's not like you've had to be on a week's holiday

or anything. No, exactly. Yeah. And there's always been a time we've been, like, out in a restaurant or I've gone to the gym and it's just like, oh, it's just like, I can, like, if I don't need to go,

like, I can just, like, kind of hold it until I need to, like, until I'm in a convenient spot. Like, I'm quite lucky. I can just, like, be like, no, no, no, and then just do it when I can. It's so funny, like, the subject of, like, we all go to the loo like everyone on planet earth goes but like why is it that girls and I know it's always been the way it's just fun are uncomfortable and awkward it is and I so get

it but it's just it seems kind of crazy when it's so natural and everyone everyone on the planet every single human has to go like it really i almost find it funny when a boy like does the shit like it doesn't faze me oh my god it doesn't faze me whatsoever so toby did his first it's just a bit more manly isn't it like a bit more like yeah it's like long it's a bit lame if they get really fussy funny about it yeah i agree you're like oh just chill out no no so toby the first time he was like oof do you mind um putting friends on quite loud he's like i need the loo i was like what i was like i wouldn't have noticed he was like he was like okay then he was like he said there we go done it oh it was like really funny and he's like have you ever had to go in my vicinity and i was like god no i

haven't thank god but that's because i was like we haven't spent enough time all in one go where I've actually had to do it in the same facility. Yeah, you do like a night thing. However, today, I have a bit of food poisoning, I'm going to be honest with you guys. My stomach has not been well. I don't think it's food poisoning. You've got a bit of a runny tongue.

Yeah, but what is that from? That's from eating something funky. I'm drinking wine now. That's going to do me well, because... Anyway, if he was with me, oh my God, guys. I honestly i honestly like just made it back in time

like it was so painful it's like my stomach was like honestly like you know your stomach just hurts and you're like ah sweaty yeah i got sweaty sweaty it was like you need to stop walking you can't walk you have to stop and it was past yeah terrible business so i had um a really bad time and i was like thank the lord that he's not here Thank god You could have just said you were desperate for a win Can we just talk about what the pooing routine is So like a bit of loo roll in the loo

Tiff Watson told me to squirt a bit of soap Stunning What on the loo roll? In the loo I do that after I didn't do that before Also can I just also say those poo drops from Esop don't work do they not

no my brother has oh I've got a spray that's really good I'll share same I've got an odour remover spray it doesn't smell like anything but it removes the smell

and also Sophie told me matches so I always keep matches in my ears matches clever guys matches but you know

you've done a shit because it smells like burnt matches Ruby you're like 400 years into a relationship what's your parents situation like well i mean res would honestly happily poo in front of me in the loo like i'll yes like he will just like i'll sometimes be in the shower or like just in the bathroom doing my makeup taking

my makeup off he'll just sit on the loo and do poo and i'm like that's disgusting i'm like i actually don't as much as I love you like it would be nice no I don't want to stand next to you it really upsets me it really bothers me I think he almost does it more for a reaction because he knows it bothers me yeah it's almost like so he knows that I find it annoying so he'll do it more so for the reaction we actually had this happen last night and I was like what's the need and then he just sits there and laughs what's the need if you guys can see the facial the facial expression what's the need and sometimes I could just see him like walking towards the bathroom and I know I'm in the bathroom and I'm like no no no no no no lock myself in um when they're in terms of me like i obviously like have my little routine like

lock the door go and then i've got like a little spray like it's a perfume spray that i purposely keep in um i use the asop poop drops and they work well i don't think they're like really strong but i think they do something um i spray it with perfume, so it stinks. Yeah, a little perfume. Whatever the fuck is in there, I just use. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. And he never, he would never, I think it's, I'm all good. All good to go. Yeah,

you're not using, he's still lousy. They probably know, but it doesn't smell, so it's not a problem. And it's like, no one's heard anything, it doesn't smell.

It smells of perfume, so they know, they've got him. Yeah, true. They don't know what our shit smells like so it's alright no

and rainbows I think Rez and boys are obsessed with like I don't know if it's just my boyfriend but like poo chat oh my god I think no no

no no no Jamie Lang sorry he always wants to talk about like bottom poo he wants to talk about poo

like he wants to have the conversation with me about me going for poo and I'm like no no no yeah Rez is the same that's right me going for poo and I'm like no yeah where's the mistake that's right I think they're fascinated fascinated by like poo

it's like it's like they've got like a mummy issue but with poo I know it's like what happened to you

when you were in a napkin sometimes I remember oh no it's actually too much I'm not even gonna say it go on you've got to tell us tell us

tell us honestly he's disgusting he'll sit there and he'll go to the toilet and he'll be on you've got to tell us tell us tell us honestly he's disgusting he'll sit there and he'll go to the toilet and he'll be like you've got to look at my poop and we're like I don't

no no no no guys guys he does the same he goes is this normal he'll be like it was so big you have to look

oh my god I don't want it I'm like you're obsessed with poop it's a guy thing guys are weirdly proud of themselves yeah it's like a proud moment the bigger the log the bigger the day yeah yeah yeah they think it's like a great achievement oh my god i'm like do you know that's like really like makes me feel very unwell oh do you look do you no no i don't i actually don't but i'm like even that conversation i'm makes me feel sick.

Just go to the loo, spritz your stuff, and that's it. But he also goes to the loo far more than I do. They want us to go near that bar. I mean, they don't really. It's like, you've exposed too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now you want me to have that. That is off limits. Wait, Sophie, can you tell the story about when you and Jamie first dated and you locked yourself in the lift to go for a pee? It was the best story I've ever heard. So we had first started dating, and the first couple of times he used to take me to hotels, real flash in the cash.

And so we were there, and then the loo was very much in the room, you know, see-through doors whatever we'd just gone to sleep we were so hungover like hungover shit and you know i don't really eat like a lot of foods i'm very fussy so there was all these we we ordered room service and we literally ordered the whole menu so i gorged it all my poor tummy did not bode well we were in bed and it was going oh my god so i tried to go to the loo and i sat down and i was like you know when you clench and you're like don't you fucking let that out oh no hold in hold in and then i know that feeling no no yeah i was like got back into bed i was like okay it's 2am jamie's asleep next to me fast sleep okay, it's 2am. Jamie's asleep next to me, fast asleep. I'm like, it's 2am, what do I do?

So I'm like, gotta go to the lobby. Got to go to the lobby. So I get my dressing gown on, I'm naked. Because at that stage you can sleep naked. Get my dressing gown on. I walk barefoot to the lobby. I get down there. I get stuck in the lift.

So I'm Snapchatting at this point. Stop moving the lift. So I don't lift Serious story guys I'm like videoing it because I had to show my friends Because I thought they're all going to think I exaggerated I'm like I'm stuck in the lift It goes And I'm in the lobby

My hair's like I'm kind of like sected Because probably at this point we were like second day I'm in the lobby and they're like Mam are you lost and I go yeah I'm lost Because I was just like not wanting to say no I need a shit and the guy takes me

up the stairs back to the room and I was like no wait oh my god can you just say my boyfriend's being really on the loo

and I have to go to the bathroom so what did you do what was the end of the story he left me in the room and then I just I pretended to go in and then walked

straight back out went down the stairs to the lobby did my business ran in the room and then I just I pretended to go in and then walked straight back out went down the stairs to the lobby did my business and ran back up. By that time it's like 4.30am and I was like

I am so tired. I want a hangover as well. David didn't know. He's not waking an eye. But he did know about it. I think you told him. That's probably really good. I told him in the middle of the night

I told him I woke up because I couldn't hold it and I was like that's terrible. That is quite a genius story. I never knew that. It's so funny, yeah. That is so good.

I remember you saying, like, my son was a bit in the lift. And you were like, no! Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. More so the lift stopping. I was like, I'm about to shit in the lift. Like, this is really not good. At the Rosewood or somewhere lovely as well. Oh, shit!

Just shit. Like a Bridesmaid move a bit in my dressing gown. Yeah! Oh, my God. That is one of the best stories. That is golden, though.. Just sick. Like a Bridesmaid moment, but in my dress. Yeah. Oh, my God. That is one of the best stories. That is golden, though. That is golden. You've got to rate your wine.

Rebeth, it's your first try. Yeah, you rate it. It's absolutely stunning. Out of 10. Oh, okay, so out of 10. I'm now, like, smelling it. I'm so jealous. It's really delicious.

I'm going to give it, I'm going to have another sip. Yeah jealous It's really delicious I'm gonna give it I'm gonna have another sip Yeah have another sip I love it when she says that Have another sip I've had mine Mine's dry old chicken I'm gonna give it an 8

Yeah bold move I think we A rated it I'm gonna give it an 8 Yeah it's banging It's like It's smooth It's going down a treat It's sweet

It's chocolate Isn't it like chocolate It's chocolatey But it's not heavy It's not heavy It's a very drinkable wine No it's fucking great It's going down a treat. It's sweet, like chocolate, isn't it? Like chocolate. Chocolate-y. But it's not heavy. It's not heavy. It's a very drinkable wine. No, it's fucking great.

It's honestly a great shower. Also, it doesn't really give you red wine lips, does it? Whoa. No. I feel far worse. I see you guys are going to come meet me later. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

I'm going to give my gin and tonic a five out of ten because it was fucking round. Oh. I'm so sorry. I swore so much in this podcast, but I don't know what is Ruby's influence by being being here it was necessary oh my god thank you so much for having me guys thank you that was an absolute pleasure i love you both very much we love you so much tiny tim you're just Canadian podcast listener, and that makes you important to us.

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