Wednesdays - Ep 64: What REALLY happens on a lads holiday??
Episode Date: July 5, 2022Hi team! Everyone is on their holidays at the moment and today we will be dissecting what really goes on, on a lads holiday. Plus Jamie Laing swings by to discuss his biggest icks in the bedroom. ...;Today we are treating ourselves to a lovely English sparkling rose courtesy of Laithwaites wines. https://www.laithwaites.co.uk/product/Rose-PRD+Sparkling+Wine/Wyfold+Vineyard+Ros%C3%A9-2017/2413617Melissa and Sophie Rating: 8.5 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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You're actually not that bad at singing.
That was actually quite good, was it not?
You can hold a note.
Wait, do it again.
Do it again for me.
No.
Jamie, you sing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why did you just give yourself more
and then not talk about it?
Oh, sorry.
I honestly don't know what I'm doing.
Jamie, you're meant to be joining us in this.
I've got a throbbing headache,
so I'm just hoping this will get rid of the headache.
Do you want to have some of this?
We need another glass.
Do you want to have some love?
No, go.
Can we have a little sniff?
Oh, right. We haven't done this in ages.
I know, I know. I'm really excited.
I'm really excited. We did Corona yesterday.
What? Why did we do Corona? Because we felt like it. Because it was hot and I just couldn't.
Okay, okay, fine.
So you guys...
I wish it was later in the day.
Right, cheers, love you.
Cheers, love you.
Cheers, love you guys.
It's not orange, but it's rosé.
It's Y time.
Pressure she puts the microphone in her neck.
Like, why is it...
At least I don't shove it in my mouth like you.
You make out with your freaking microphone.
That is really delightful.
It's not too fizzy.
It almost tastes like cider.
I know, you mean there's a really like... An afteraste of um what's it called fermented kind of taste yeah kombucha
hey i think that's cool are you gonna intro me that i'm here jamie lang's in the building guys
he doesn't really need much of an intro because he's just so he bellows his way through do you
know what i was thinking this out i was trying to talk to hannah and your voice carries, it's like my sister says,
certain people who have that voice,
the pitch is so much louder
even though they're not talking louder.
You can't ever listen to anyone else
if they're talking because your ears just are drawn
to their conversation.
That's a good thing.
It's a magnetic.
It's so loud.
It's like my sister, she's so loud.
Have you got me here to
ask me a question yeah okay give me the dilemma i need like a towel to dab my grease oh she's
sweating i'm a sweat sing where's that what you call it it's fitsing so basically last episode
we had some people writing in rogue things that boys have said to them in bed okay right we what
was the worst the worst worst one was probably mummy.
No, yeah, very you, Jamie.
And there was like 10 of them.
So like it's quite a common thing.
So you want to call me mummy?
So you want to be
fucking me
and keep calling me Penny?
Oh my God!
My ears are exploding.
Sorry, but that's what
you just said.
My ears are exploding.
Oh my God.
No, no, that was
the most crap thing
she's ever said.
You want to say,
I beg your pardon, everyone.
You want to be making love to me, but whilst calling me mummy.
Damn straight, girl.
That is so wrong to say me and Alvis.
I feel sick in myself.
You don't call me...
I feel sick in myself after what you've just said.
You once called me lami bear.
And I went...
No!
I literally was like, get off.
No, you didn't.
You went... get off no you didn't you went you went this is quite disgusting but when you're doing doggy yeah you know naturally you
a girl kind of like arches their back like that apparently if you like go like that like cats
pose the dick oh yeah no it's like when dogs we need to try it you've definitely done that that's how you know
you know that happens to dogs they like latch on it's called latching
and then the dog's like and the girl like latches
on so that all the sperm travels into her and she gets pregnant okay it's not consensual i think the
dog humps the woman the bitch when dogs have sex is it consensual does the lady go no it's not
neither is neither one of foxes apparently a fox has like spikes all over its penis
lions it's like really painful they really don't want to do
it and the women like forces them to do it and then after they do it they go and sleep really
far away from each other because it's just a re it's just breeding or what yeah yeah reproduction
wait so why am i here so basically when do i want to know what girls have said to you what is the
weirdest thing have you had anyone say weird names to you
I know you would have
someone would have
called you like daddy
or something in bed
no I don't think so
I don't think I've had
like asking me to say things
what's the biggest
ick in bed you've ever had
oh stay for the whole lap
it's quite fun
ask me so many questions
I think
I think when
when you
when you kind of
half know each other and you sleep together and you don of half know each other
and you sleep together
and you don't really know each other.
Oh, I don't want to know anymore.
She doesn't want to know anymore.
Oh, do you? Tell me.
When you half know each other
and you're in bed together
and then they start stroking your back after sex.
Oh, no.
Apparently, there's this weird thing
that men get right after they finish.
Yeah, you feel regret.
It's like, no, no.
And it's like, you just want them to leave
and it's like nothing worse than repulsion. Like, get out get out i remember no if you're in love with someone
you're dating someone it's different but women get that too women get that too no apparently
it's like a hormone that releases within a man that like if they don't want to be around they're
almost like oh like get away from me when you when you orgasm yeah i remember at uni i slept
with this girl and uh we were hooking up
anyway I was like lying on the ground
she was on top
and she started having a nosebleed
I didn't know what it was
I was like what the hell is that
I was like what's that water dropping on me
that's really bad
we turned on the light and she was having a nosebleed on me
and I was like oh my god
I was literally being waterboarded.
I feel really bad for her.
I remember once when I first went out with like one of my ex-boyfriends.
I did this.
He was like, ow, it really hurts.
And I remember it scarring me.
You rubbed his leg?
Like, you know when your tickling's on?
Regret, regret saying it.
Move on, move on.
Oh God.
Oh, it's not.
Oh, you're guarding at me.
Oh God.
Oh, what else is like really cringe?
No, he's thinking back to someone's doing something to him. Oh, God, I don't know. I think I know. Oh, what're guarding at me. Oh, God. Oh, what else is really cringe? No, he's thinking back to someone's doing something to him.
Oh, God, I don't know.
I think I know.
Oh, what is it?
When someone gives you a head and they look at you
like you're trying to be really sexy.
And then I listen.
You know?
Like, stop trying to be a porn star.
Trying to do eye contact.
Stop trying to be a porn star.
Yeah, you're just like a job get done.
Come on.
Yeah, 100%.
Get me in and out. Get me in and out of that. All right, ladies, is that all you're just like a job, get done. Come on, here we go. Yeah, 100%. Get me in and out.
Get me in and out of that.
All right,
ladies,
is that all you needed me for?
Yes,
thank you.
Okay,
well,
enjoy the episode.
Love to everyone.
On Wednesdays,
we drink wine.
I love this podcast.
Love all the listeners.
Have fun.
See you later.
He's like looking to cameras
that aren't pointing at him.
I know,
they're not looking at me.
Love you guys.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Okay,
so the wine,
the sparkling wine
that we're drinking
is called
Weifold
Vineyard
Brut
is it Brut
Brut
it's a 2017
Brut Rose
this
so now this is
what we've been
speaking about
we've been hearing
a lot about
English wine
English sparkling wine
and I've told you guys
my friend Alice Hanson
literally is obsessed
with English sparkling wine
it's by a lady
called Barbara Lathwaite oh we like that it's by a lady called barbara laithwaite
oh we like that it's a lady lady it's lovely um product of angles single vineyard apparently it's
like the new thing now i also think that that label has been done so nicely we think it's from
laithwaite it's actually quite expensive it's 30 pounds you guys are gonna have to drink this it's
honestly wonderful and it's you know what i will say a lot of like champagne is not,
I don't find that drinkable for over a long period of time.
Two glasses is an amount.
This, you could keep going.
Because it's not very fizzy.
It's not too fizzy.
It's not too strong.
It's like really light, but it's not too sweet like Prosecco.
It's perfect.
I think this is my new favourite thing about English.
English sparkling wine is always quite expensive though.
I will say that.
But you know why?
We're hitting in the market in that lovely high-end nook.
We're kicking out the champagne.
Yeah.
In our own London restaurants.
Why don't we have the English stuff?
We don't need the champagne if we've got this, do we?
Yeah, exactly.
It's so true.
Champagne also, like, will die out
because there's just not enough grapes in champagne.
Is there not?
Well, if there's, like, a bad season, they literally can't make enough champagne. Oh't it? Well, if there's like a bad season,
they literally can't make enough champagne.
Oh gosh, well that's why it's so expensive.
So if there's bad champagne,
you won't know.
So you remember like 2018 was like a good year for champagne.
Right.
There were all these good years.
You don't know for like a certain amount of years later
to what year was good
because it takes so long for that grape to ferment.
To ferment on whatever year.
So like last year's grapes, there was like no grapes.
So last, do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah, I do see what you're saying.
Interesting.
Interesting, but there's like no.
Guys, Sophie did a whole champagne dish.
I know, that's where I know it all from.
She's got the knowledge.
Think how wealthy all the like farmers,
like the great farmers are in champagne.
Should we open our own little vineyard?
We should open our own wine.
Guys, would you guys like a wine
that was created by Melissa and Sophie?
We would only ever drink that. Guys, would you guys like a wine that was created by Melissa and Sadie? We would only ever drink that.
Okay, we must get one.
Right, okay, should I read the first dilemma?
Yeah.
We've got to crack into it.
Okay.
A few months ago, I met a guy when traveling on my last evening abroad.
We had one amazing night together with an instant connection.
We laughed and chatted and even slept together,
but then I came home, and the following day,
he stayed away for a further two months. So could only be a one night thing but but we both admitted it felt special oh my god so sweet and magical since I've been home I went back
to my normal life met a guy online and things are progressing nicely we haven't had the girlfriend
boyfriend chat yet and are acting quite serious meeting friends and family and he really
does tick all the boxes and is a complete gentleman the guy from holiday is now home and is asked to
meet up and there's a part of me that thinks i want to see if there was anything there but don't
want to risk ruining my new thing what would you do this is hard this is hard oh my god you almost
had something similar to this do Do you remember? Did I?
Yeah.
Drug with men?
No, it wasn't.
Like, you just fancy someone,
then he went away and then he came back
and then you were just starting to get with Toby.
Oh God.
But like, if anything,
that was because I wanted to like sleep with him
to almost prove to myself
I didn't like make the other person jealous.
Do you know what I mean?
Right, okay.
But there wasn't a part of me that thought like, oh, we had this instant connection. It was just like stunning. No, no, no, but it was like stunning. you know what i mean right okay but there wasn't a part of me that
thought like oh we had this instant connection it was just like stunning but it was i know what
you mean you're like is it worse because it's at the very beginning we're not boyfriend girlfriend
so technically i could go and date someone else and sleep with someone else if i wanted to but
it would it ruin things yes i i always think because you're because you're considering seeing
this other guy you're not completely satisfied with with the one that you're seeing now.
I would just see him because life's too short
and imagine he was the one.
And then you could almost just meet up for a coffee.
It doesn't have to be anything intimate or anything less
than literally just a chat.
Or would you?
Because if I was at the stage
when Jamie was meeting my friends and family
and he went and met up with a girl
that he'd had an instant connection with,
I'd be like, well, we're done.
Oh my God, it's so hard hard because what if you see this guy and you have butterflies and it's like mad fireworks and you're like oh my god and what if he's just there for the
shag do you play it safe or do you go and then you'd have to spend more time with him to see
if it actually is worth it yeah you know what they say okay right what did johnny zepp say about like you always thought there's two if you fall in love with two people and you
always go with the second one because you can't love the first one that much if you like the
second one apparently you always have three great loves in your life jamie i heard it was two no
jamie's stepmother told me it was three great loves i heard it was two i'm only on two so i
really hope it's not three.
You're only two too really.
First love was the first love. When you're a child you don't really know what love is.
My first boyfriend didn't love.
Yeah like not really exist. Like non-existent in the
relationship terms. I've only had two so I'm hoping
it's two. Mine was two too.
I'm choosing my own fate. It's only two.
I was. Yeah I think it's
two. I heard it was two but like every love is different. They say you love people differently every time. It's only two. I was, yeah, I think it's two. I heard it was two.
But like every love is different.
They say you love people differently every time.
Yeah, you definitely do.
Some people have about seven different loves.
Who cares?
There's no rule to this game.
I don't know.
How many do you really feel like?
I don't know.
I feel like you can't have seven different loves.
Like, I mean, maybe you love them all in a different way.
I'm not sure, like, you can love, love, love, love, love someone.
Like, you were with someone for four years,
and now you're like, I'm not sure I loved him.
No, I'm not sure if I was in love with him.
Definitely loved him to bits. There you go, that's my point.
I think a lot of people love people,
but I'm not sure you're in love with all those people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is, yeah,
which is probably quite normal.
That's just the processes we go through.
Yeah.
And also, it's great to love someone. Right, so what the hell does this girl do? Okay, normal. That's just the processes we go through. Yeah. Yeah.
And also it's great to let...
Right, so what the hell does this girl do?
Okay, right.
If we're playing it safe, there's two ways you can look at this.
If you're playing it safe, you might cock it up with this guy
if you go and see this mystery man.
But it sounds like you...
The fact that you're really thinking about it
and you're wanting to,
I almost think you'll regret not doing it
and then it will always be a what if.
I think you need to get out of your system.
I think you need to do it
because you'll always think about him.
And, you know, life is too short
and if he is the one
and he makes you feel that magical way,
that's so rare
and it doesn't sound like this current guy does
make you feel like that.
It just sounds like he's ticking boxes on paper, which be boring and i also just think so like what you said if
you're with the boy you shouldn't ever be thinking about another boy exactly i just don't think you
should be like it's got to overcrowd your brain so that you're repulsed by any other person exactly
you've ever kissed got with slept with anything yeah you're like oh yeah you literally have to
be repulsed that's a lovely situation to be in but i don't think everyone is no but by the sounds of it if you were with this mystery guy that you met
traveling it doesn't sound like you would think once about the new guy the online guy yeah i agree
i think the way that you've worded it you know it's progressing nicely like he's a proper gentleman
ticks the boxes he's nice you're not like you know there's fireworks i'm crazy about him i love him so
much there's no doubt in my mind he's the one i want to marry you're not having that vibe this
other guy is giving me the butterfly feels yeah you need that butterfly feel and everything happens
for a reason if it doesn't hang if it doesn't work out with butterfly feels then you know that's good
you've at least you won't have any regrets and it to me it sounds like um gentleman online boy is um kind of a nice
backup which it sounds like what you've done you've settled for like oh yeah he's all right
do you know what i mean yeah you could have him as a backup he doesn't sound like the guy
he doesn't sound like you just like look i man up with him and this happened and then he doesn't
even need to know about this guy like who cares you went for a coffee with someone you went
traveling you went on traveling a mate i feel bad they didn't even need to know about this guy. Like, who cares? You went for a coffee with someone you went on traveling.
A mate.
I feel bad.
You didn't even have a relationship with him.
Family and friends.
Oh, I know, but life is too short.
Like, family and friends is intense.
And you know what?
If the shoe was on the other foot,
if there's a guy doing this to a girl,
I'd be like, you fucking what? You are a vile human.
Okay, so maybe we need to be a little bit more sensitive
towards the guy, because it's actually quite unfair.
Family and friends is, the friends is fine. meet the family there's a there's a line
that's an invisible line that's saying you can't date another person sorry that's in my book but
she's not dating him she's going to see him and then she fancies him like it's almost worse like
she should almost he's back in england though just go do it like i'm blocking my ears just go do it
you've got to do it and then you've got to reassess. And you know what?
If you meet up with him and you're like,
fuck, I actually like this guy so much
that I shouldn't be with the other guy
regardless to whether or not I carry on dating him.
You call things off with the other boy
and you're like, look, you're so great,
but right now I actually have some shit
I need to figure out.
I'm not actually going to date anyone else.
But clearly my mind's a bit confused,
which is fine.
Or that other guy makes you realize
how much you like the original guy.
Exactly.
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Okay, so dilemma two.
Hey guys, got a dilemma. I feel like i've been such a psycho towards my
boyfriend we've been going out together for two years and the first year of it was basically all
in lockdown recently he's been going out more which i'm pleased about as he says he doesn't
see his friends too much however i get anxiety every time he goes out i'm not too sure if you
guys feel the same or have in the past,
but I do trust him 100%.
He is the kindest soul and reassures me.
But how do I stop worrying about where he is,
what he's doing every time he goes out?
I've asked him to text me just for a bit of reassurance
and hopefully in a couple of months,
I'll get used to him going out and he won't have to text.
But then I keep overthinking, why do i need to text why do i need
to text him in the first place because i trust him please help as it drives me insane love the
pause and love the advice i think it sounds like you're just insecure which is so fine i think
loads of people are like we all go through this phase we all have our own insecurities in various
different ways and obviously for some reason or other like maybe you've not even noticed
but something's happened to you in your life so far that's made you insecure that he's gonna
choose someone else or cheat on you or like leave you you know there's like all these deeper issues
to things like not that it's an issue at all I think that is so normal it is so normal and I
think because I mean he hasn't done anything wrong to. He's given you no reason from what I can see here
to make you feel insecure or, like, stressed about him going out.
So I think that you need to take yourself on nights out
when he goes on nights out and throw your mind off it.
Because when you're out, you're not going to be thinking
or caring about what the hell he's doing or where he is.
It's because you're probably sat at home, like,
it's actually almost a bit of FOMO as well, I think.
I don't like to see Jamie and I love going out together.
Like, is it weird?
You're old and you're engaged, it's different.
You go out together a lot.
Yeah, we do.
No, we do go out together sometimes,
but that's mainly with you guys
because we don't share that many friends.
And then we'll go out separately,
but then we always end up meeting up, like, after.
Like, normally on weekends, like, we'll both have quite a lot of plans.
We'll always meet up afterwards.
It's interesting, that, isn't it?
Maybe it is because Jamie's older.
And also you've, like, grown to get more of a friendship group.
Like, I don't know.
Imagine six months in, you probably didn't share that many friends.
Yeah, you guys are only six months in.
It feels like you're a year in.
Yeah, no, six months in, I went completely separate. Yeah, yeah completely separate yeah yeah yeah and then you start to get to know each other's
friendship groups more and then it all kind of merges into one and then everyone goes out together
and it's fine but when they're strictly like boys nights girls nights at this stage for me and my
friendship group that is kind of actually the girls nights things normally it's just like a
dinner but normally it's like school friends school friends so like that yeah i feel like yeah you need to occupy yourself on these yeah you do
you need to reassure yourself don't know for him for reassurance exactly when you when those thoughts
come into your mind say this isn't the true narrative like he's not done anything wrong
this is obviously my insecurity yeah i'm great he loves me and then try and distract yourself with something else like go on a walk listen to a podcast you know go to the gym
well yeah go out go out yourself or get your girlfriend over for dinner watch a little movie
together have a pamper night arrange something early get your favorite delivery eat watch the
program that he doesn't want to watch yeah just when jamie's out i use it as like oh my god i'm excited i used to be like oh my god i'm phoenix i'm so annoyed he's not invited me
whereas now i'm like i'm so excited sophie's always invited but sometimes she's like i just
need a night in by myself yeah go alone like that happened quite a lot yeah he invites me like just
boys now so i'm like can you imagine me turning up the boys will all be like, what? Oh, how sweet. I know that they'll be like, can she go?
What are you doing?
Yeah, that's the advice for that for me.
Yeah.
I've been seeing a guy I met through Hinge for five to six weeks.
We clicked on the first date,
and since we've been seeing each other twice a week
and spent the last few weekends together,
we haven't formally said what are we or put a label on things,
but he's shown me his commitment slash interest in a lot so I haven't needed to ask he said on the
third date he'd not been on a hinge since meeting me told his mates about me we bumped into one of
his mates who jokingly also said when's the wedding told his mum about me told me a girl he
used to date briefly asked him to go on a date and he said no I'm seeing someone and also asked if I still called us seeing each other a date to which we both agreed it wasn't anymore anyway
he's now gone on holiday which was already booked with his brother and two mates who are all single
apart from one I don't know why but I decided to check his hinge and he's updated his location
to where he is abroad I've also been seeing he's been following girls and liking their pictures on insta. One was a bikini pic crying face. I don't really know where this leaves us
technically he's single so not doing anything wrong but it has made me question how much of a
nice guy he is. I guess my question is how bad do you think this is and how do you think we should
proceed? It's so hard to judge because I don't know if anything's happened but I just think you're not
using a dating app on a lad's holiday to make friends are you sadly I feel like the majority of guys
would have done something similar which doesn't make it right but makes me think if I bin him off
will I find someone better okay right what the hell is she gonna do I think that is really like
we listen to that and we're like what an arsehole but I think that like partly boys are just i think he might have been trying
to seem laddy as well i think there might have been a peer pressure i think he probably just
literally probably had like an inquisit like they're not boyfriend and girlfriend like i think
it's really bad but i think she should give him the opportunity to explain himself and i don't think
yeah but we find a sneaky way so what should she do be like one of my friends saw you're on hinge
and you you said your thing lol send a screenshot
of his hinge and be like huh he gives a fuck at this point i wouldn't send it to him i think that's
a bit much what could she do i think wait till he's back and they're on a date and be like look
i'm not gonna lie it's kind of been on my mind because i saw this but i know i'd rather hide
behind the phone with that something like that oh my god no that's death i don't send him when
he's on holiday with the boys i would not be able to say to his face, it's been on my mind.
Like that looks so deep.
Yeah, no, it's been on my mind since you've been away
because I saw it and I don't want to say anything
and ruin your holiday.
But like I saw it and it's kind of bummed me out a bit.
Like, am I allowed to still date?
Like, what's the vibe?
Yeah, I wouldn't.
I think if you send him a screenshot
when he's on holiday with his friends,
they'll be like, you're a psycho, psycho.
I wouldn't be able to say it on a date.
I would just not be.
Because my anger.
I don't think I would say anything. My anger, my annoyance would not allow me to be that nice so I'd have to do something
better but that's just a fault of me like I wouldn't be able to be that nice and like be
that open which is probably what you should do but I wouldn't be able to sit in front of him
yeah I think from a really correct mature point of view you should literally just say to him I
don't want to say anything in you were away but it kind of has
bummed me out
because I saw it
yeah so listen to that advice
that's the best thing to do
I just
I know myself
and I wouldn't be able
to swallow my pride
and even go on a date
with him after doing that
without him apologising
or explaining himself
I'd be so not
but then what's he going to be like
mate can you fucking chill out
we're not boyfriend girlfriend
like why are you being so intense
it's hard
but if they're
no but if they're
what stage are they at
they should
they're not boyfriend girlfriend they've only been on like how many however many dates oh wait i know this is the
problem though no wait no but the they've been dating for six weeks quite that's quite long when
you told him but then like he's told his mom about her like i do think that is a bit of a
i would just be like i just probably wouldn't speak to him until the point where he'd be like what's wrong and i'd be like apparently you just changed i just think it's a bit lame a i would just be like oh i just probably wouldn't speak to him until the point where he
was wrong and i'd be like apparently you just changed i just think it's a bit lame but that's
just me being such a bad person don't try to think of where i was at the stage of six weeks
i know where i was which is where i would just be like oh no you and jamie's so different though
because you knew each other for years before so there was almost like no there was no foreplay
there was no sort of hiding behind like,
oh, I have to play it cool kind of vibe or anything like that.
It was like, I don't give a fuck.
And you only saw each other like once a week at the beginning.
But I know that Toby was talking to other girls after we got together.
I don't know how long before, but he was.
Well, of course, after you got together, but not when you were like...
I wasn't.
But not after six...
Yeah, but our scars are different.
Not after six weeks.
That would have been a dump of events to me.
If that was happening, no, no, no. Yeah, see? You're different. Not after six weeks. Yeah, not after six weeks. That would have been a dump of events to me. If that was happening, no, no, no.
Yeah, see?
You're right.
Yeah, so to be-
That would have been after New Year's.
You'd have been like, bye.
After New Year's.
It would have been January.
There you go.
So you, yeah, New Year's.
So you go into, look at him.
He's on a boys' holiday and he's changed things.
You'd be like, no.
See?
I would have sacked it off.
I'm sorry.
That's how much you know that they're together
and he's told his mum about you. I would have sacked it off I'm sorry That's how much You know that They're together And he's told his mum
About you
I would have
Sacked it off too
I just not
I never message him
And wave him
To be like
What the fuck's going on
Yeah and be like
Look like I get
Where you're standing
With this now
And like it's just
Not my vibe
Yeah I'd literally
Just send a screenshot
And be like
It's not my vibe
Yeah alright
Scratch that
Let's just review
That first piece of advice
That I gave
We were attracting that statement.
I would literally send a screenshot
so I wouldn't even give a shit at this point
and just be like, lame.
I would be like, this isn't my vibe.
And just wait for him to shit his pants.
And if he doesn't, then fall on him.
Then you don't want to be with him.
Yeah.
Get straight back on that wagon.
Start dating someone else immediately.
Do not waste any time.
The day you ran it you need
you need to reverse also he's not stupid he kind of knows you're gonna see that which is another
weird thing just update it is lame you've updated it to like barcelona like oh don't know no not for
me that is like quite dead i don't know who are you gonna date in barcelona on lads holiday
yeah exactly just wants to like,
chirp some girls
and then meet up with them
and shag them.
Or grow up.
We're horrible girls.
Right,
dilemma four.
We're so savage,
but just honestly,
there's no time for boys like that.
There isn't.
Do you have any tips
on what to do?
Slash,
we've just given the girl
in the previous dilemma the advice to go and meet up with another guy.
Are we okay?
We're not well.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Our morals are not in the right place.
I know, they're really not.
But it's all circumstantial.
It's circumstantial, yeah.
It's circumstantial.
Six weeks.
We just like, we can read through the phone.
That's why I can read, I can sense what's happening.
Do you know what I mean?
Same, same, same, same, same. I can tell, I can sense what's happening. Do you know what I mean? Same, same, same, same, same.
I can tell, I can tell.
You're not going to fall in, the second dilemma, girl,
you're not going to fall in love with this current guy
because the other guy's in your mind still.
Exactly.
It's holding you back.
Different situation.
Yeah, we're just speeding up your progress.
To putting yourself out on hinge for the world to see,
including the girl you're dating, like,
yeah, I'm open for dates, girls, give it to me.
That's a different vibe.
That, my friends, is different.
Right, dilemma four. Do you have any tips on what to do when you want to hang out with more people at a festival and someone ends up clinging
to you god we've had a lot of these clinging ones recently oh i hate a clinger i think i'm a bit
clingy with you you're not you're like so unclean um Okay. I don't think we've ever hugged.
That's because I see you too often. Yeah, but I, yeah.
It'd be too hard.
It's like if I saw you like every couple weeks,
then I would have given you a hug.
I would give you a hug,
but because I see you every day,
there's no point.
I don't think I hug,
I'm not really a massive hugger though anyway,
as a person.
I am.
I don't think you are.
I think we're like the same level of hugging.
Guys, so if you once told me I'd make an awful mum,
I was like, that's the worst thing you can ever...
Did I?
Yes, you were like, you'd be such a bad mum.
I was like, what?
And Toby was like, no, she wouldn't.
When did I say that?
I don't know.
I remember you saying it to me thinking,
God, cold bitch.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
I think you'd make a lovely mum.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But savage.
Savagely brutal to them, for sure.
You'd be like, that looks awful.
That's when my mum raised me.
Yeah.
Worked out well on me.
All right, okay.
How are we going to deal with a clingy friend at a festival?
Flick them.
Just keep flicking them away.
Just run away.
Run away.
Go into the portly, pretend you're in the loo, wait for her to go in and then make a run
for it.
We're bad people.
Okay, right.
So, again, stopping you.
You were joking.
That was so good.
That was a complete joke. You've actually done that. I've never done that. I've never. So, it gets stopping you. No, you were joking. That was so good. That was a complete joke.
You've actually done that.
I've never done that.
I've never had a clingy friend.
Clingy person, what do you do?
You find out another clingy person
and you set them together
and then you cling them together.
I've done it many a times before
and it works a treat.
You suss out the person who's quite quiet
and would like a clinger
or suss out another clinger
and you put them together
and then you disappear.
But I don't think it matters
if someone's clinging to you
and you're at a festival with a group of people.
Who cares?
You've got someone to go to the loo with you.
We really do 360s,
but I don't mind a clinger.
Like I don't.
It's because you know what?
I've never had it.
I've never like noticed it
on someone doing it to me really.
That's the problem.
Like I can't imagine it.
Well it's probably because you and I probably do it. Like on a night out I like a had it. I've never, like, noticed it on someone doing it to me, really. That's the problem. Like, I can't imagine it. Well, it's probably because you and I probably do it.
Yeah, we don't notice it.
Like, on a night out, I'm like a clinger.
Carry on.
Don't let it bother you.
Just look, turn it around into being a positive.
Like, oh, sweet, I've got, like, my friend with me the whole time.
I love it.
See, you and I, like, we are actually quite clingy.
We cling together.
We're like, don't go to the toilet without me.
Yeah, yeah, no, we are very clingy with each other, to be fair.
We're so clingy with each other on nights out especially and like we get upset if one of us
does something without the other yeah i'm like why'd you go without me yeah yeah i will say
what's annoying on like a festival like a night out someone keeps talking to you and you're just
like trying to dance and they're like and you're like just shush see i just don't notice stuff
like that so someone does that to me i'll just go in one ear and out the other.
Yeah, because that is you.
Because I just ignore them.
Yeah, because you ignore them.
Whereas I feel obliged to be like,
oh really?
So your mum went there on Sunday?
How interesting.
When actually I'm like,
oh, you know,
that's my idea of a clinger.
Not someone clinging onto my arm.
Because I love someone clinging onto my arm.
Yeah, I don't really mind the clinger.
I think you just embrace the clinginess
if I'm honest with you
I think we're at a festival just let loose
and you'll be a clinger as well at some point in that festival
so don't have judgement on one clinger
you won't want to go to the loo on your own
and you won't want to go and get food by yourself
you know what I mean like all those little things that you want to do
like oh bit peckish I need another drink can I go with someone
oh yeah I've got my little friend to come with me sweet
yeah yeah be grateful for the clinger
don't underestimate the clinger all right i think
that rounds that up guys so we are now going to rate the wine which should we do three two one
i'm okay three two one eight and a half oh we're just so annoying again do it again three two one
eight and a half you copied me because you heard me say that.
Stunning.
It's really, really, really lovely.
We just gave him a bottle of like 70 pound.
She's such an exaggerator.
No, if you got it in a...
It's 30 pounds.
If you got it in a restaurant, it'd be 70.
Give Sophie a drink.
She changes numbers by honestly a thousand.
Then I ask her about it the next day.
She goes, oh yeah, that was a lie.
It's actually this.
He's laying after it.
All right, bye guys.
Bye guys, love you.
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