Wednesdays - EP 7. Getting Stuck In The Friendzone

Episode Date: May 25, 2021

Hey Gang,Before we begin a big thank you to everyone who has got in touch - honestly we cannot thank you enough. It's Ep 7 and today we discuss being friendzoned!!Get ready for another LOL episode and don't forget to grab your glasses!Today we're drinking a Drouhin Chablis!https://www.vivino.com/GB/en/joseph-drouhin-drouhin-vaudon-chablis-reserve-de-vaudon/w/1210266?year=2019Our ratings are:Melissa: 7.5Sophie: 7Big Love,S & M xSocial - @wednesdayswedrinkwineEmail - [e-mail] Productions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hey guys, episode seven, eight? Seven. Seven. Seven. It's actually crazy. We did episode three, no four, and we both posted, oh, episode three's out now. It's gone so fast. It's crazy. It's gone so fast. Like, it's frightening. I know. And I was, I remember, like, Sophie posted it, and I was like, okay, she must be right, because she's posted it. So I did the same. Ever, ever, and wrong with everything. Someone messaged me, like, Melissa, it's episode four, and I was like, golly, you are right.

Like, how on earth have we got it so wrong? Pepsi, we've got ice today. We have ice, and we're already sipping away, aren't we? We're a couple sips in, guys we we're a couple sips in guys we are a couple sips in my like hazel nose nasally oh god wow honestly everything I say is so embarrassing

anyway we've missed you guys I feel like now there's like more messages coming in from you guys we want to talk to you more it's weird we want to reply to all your conversations so if you have messaged us we love you we hear you we're seeing them and we really appreciate the yeah we really do chat i i want to reply to all of them we are going to go through them yeah

reply to them all but like you said last week i really do think there is something in us doing some form of even virtual hopefully in the near future event i think that'd be so lovely i so agree yeah we've actually had a few letters from people we're actually going to read them out next episode oh my god exciting which is so lovely of you guys we haven't been able to pick them up yet because they have been sent to the office the office no no no how professional it is yeah the office let's go to the office on wednesday so we didn't want an office oh my god it's actually crazy that when we first did this like we were like let's just sit down have a chat like it'll be a bit of fun and now it's like actually like a real pot i'm like this is a real thing now we're doing this every week like we fully do everything I'm so dedicated to it

we're so dedicated like at first it was just like let's just see let's bit of a hobby kind of thing now it's like oh my god like you guys actually are enjoying it like it's actually like yeah I can't believe it it's crazy you I mean this is going to swallow a while oh no you know what my ice is actually melting very rapidly let's talk about the wine right okay mean this is going to soar oh no you know what my ice is actually melting very rapidly let's talk about the wine right okay so this is from me by the way you definitely yeah i do you keep getting the nice ones oh yeah this is really nice this is a delightful one i'll get a really affordable organic one how many times have i said that guys next week i'll get an organic one and then sophie's like oh i've got a really nice wine don't worry we'll have this and i'm

like oh okay i know i actually been like eyeing this up in the car but for some time and i was next week I'll get an organic one. And then Sophie's like, oh, I've got a really nice wine, don't worry, we'll have this. And then I'm like, oh, okay, fine. And no, I actually have been like, eyeing this up in the cupboard for some time and I was like, I actually just really fancy a glass of it. So I, Chablis, one of my faves. Is that how you say it?

Yeah, Chablis. Or Chablis. You don't say the S, I don't think. Yeah, I don't say Chablis. Chablis? Chablis is my fave wine. Canape. Canape.

You know when people say that? Stop. People say that. I swear. Okay, can I tell you a secret? You're lying. My mum once dated a guy that we really disapproved of. Oh.

Oh, Siren. Like, I mean, we really couldn't stand him. That means... That's hard when you have a daughter. He sold my mum her car. So, yeah. No, just, nah. Not a vibe.

I mean, sorry. I'm not being, like, i mean sorry i'm not being right that judge a guy but just no and he didn't know what peach was and then we went to a restaurant in spain yeah he thought it was a plow and i was like sorry are you all right and then we went to a restaurant in spain he was like what's calamari and i was like no what's calamari? And I was like, no, we're done. I'm sorry. See you later. That's the dog. Goodbye, nice to meet you. I'm not joking. Calamari is one of your favourite things in the world. But also, like, who doesn't know what calamari is? It's not exactly, like, finesse dining. No, it's not.

It's bloody deep fried squid. Oi, are you alright? The passion from Sophie's face right now. I wish you guys were here. Oh wow, I mean the relationship clearly didn't last very long. No, no, no, no. She was done with that.

Canappi? Is he the type of person that would have said Canappi or did that just bear on the memory? Probably he would have been that type of person. Canappi? Oh, also. The type of thing I would say if I'm so stupidly dyslexic I just read everything and say it how it is he went to a meeting and the guy had adam oh now i can't speak edamame beans and he was eating the

no no no so you know you eat them and then you put the skin in the other bottle he was eating from the bowl of the skin i mean we were in Zuma once. I think it's my mum's birthday. Bless my dad. Didn't realise, like just talking, it was like,

ugh, that was like really nothing. And I was like, dad, you just picked up like an empty one. My,

my like, that's out. Oh my god, it's too much. Oh my god, it's actually quite easy done if you've had a couple of days

and you're really not paying attention, especially in those dark restaurants and you just pick up one and you're like, oh golly, that wasn't right. Why was there no bean in there? Where was all the salt?

Where was the bean? Okay, so. Can we talk about the wine? Yeah. So we're having Chablis. Having a nice bottle of Chablis. Chablis? I know, it's a lovely Chablis.

And 2019, I just, I'm not going to read it. You go first. Okay, right. Yeah, go on then. Drawing. Vue. 2019. I just, I'm not going to read it. You go first. Okay, right. Yeah, go on. Drahen Valdon. Valdon. Okay, try to say it. Drahen Valdon.

That's how I do it. You're so much better at pronouncing these things. I'm not. Because you speak fluent Spanish. I feel like you're just better with the old languages. Okay, right. Let's have a look at the back. Is it a French?

It's obviously French. Is Shabby always French? Am I getting this wrong? I refuse to answer because I don't like such a more... No, we said something. My friend Alice honestly, like, slayed me. She was like, Miss, you're so stupid. Of course, it's because, like, Mirabeau is always French.

And we were like, is it? Oh, my God. Sorry. We're not going to know it all. But we will be by the end of, like, I think after a year. I reckon Gabby's Italian, Mirabeau's French. These are the drinks we've drank. Don't know where a Ami is from.

We need to check that out. No, that's what it was. These are the drinks we've drank. Don't know where Amy is from. We need to check that out. No, that's what it was. She said the Gavi. She said that whatever we thought the Gavi was was like always, she was like, that was really stupid. And I was like,

oh, what? That was me. And the Gavi was not the drink. It was, we were both the same. Okay, come on. We need to sniff it and taste it and then I'm going to tell you my notes.

Okay, go on. This is definitely French. Yeah, tell me the notes. I've got the back of the bottle, guys. This is the weekly test. Pear, apple. That is definitely French. Yeah, tell me the notes. I've got the back of the bottle, guys. This is the weekly test. Pear, apple. That is so rude, but pear and apple. Woody pear and apple, like smoky woody pear, apple.

That's what it tastes. Maybe a bit of berry, like cassis. Ooh, ooh, God, I like that for me. Okay, well, you're going to be quite disappointed because the back of the bottle doesn't actually tell us the exact notes which is quite disappointing because that was really impressive if you were correct i think it is if anyone wants to look it up we're also going to share let's take a photo of this share next whenever yeah it's a good idea people i think like that because then they can find the bottle also one of our very very very kind listeners message to say that we can actually

like download this app called like Vimeo yeah I saw that message too and we should basically like listen to our we should rate it ourselves and then look at the app and see what

how correct we are so we should maybe incorporate that next time oh my god that's such a good idea yeah we should do that and we're contributing to the wine community

officially by rating on the app I like that also we can start drinking Prosecco and champagne, I think. Prosexy? I know. Anyone who says Prosec or Prosexy

is that mad at me for being a rascal. A rascal. I love Prosexy. I saw it. So this girl I know, a friend of mine posted it and it was like, you just reposted this meme and it was something like get me some prosexy like as soon as the restaurants open

and I just for some reason like this meme was so funny maybe you don't know whenever I see for a second I'm always like oh yeah I'll have some prosexy I just think it's so funny it just does something to my sense of humor when people say like prosex or shamp I'm like no really sex oh yeah I love bit of shamps yeah I'll have a glass of shampers really will you I say that I love it yeah but you kind of like get away with it you say things up here so I actually don't say that anymore I think you got me out of the habit but that was like a stage in my life I thought it was the funniest world ever we've actually spoken about this in the podcast right pips banging i love it i'm gonna bring it back you're gonna bring it back what else what else is coming back suddenly in social media

duh people are going yeah duh i'm like sorry are we 15 again i still say i've always said that i go to jamie yeah duh yeah i know but it's like a funny thing that's like come back in like people are writing it like i'll coffee in the morning duh i'm like oh god i'll grow up you hot girls grow up you hot girls my friend literally called me face at me chrissy mentioned her every podcast she was like are you okay there's songs made about hot girls yeah i don't know what is wrong with how you how you this is just missed off your radar i read bits and do you find things fun things oh my god sorry did you regret the words that just came out of your mouth

complete lice I read books what was the last book you read I listened to them I like audio books at night time and they're under the name of Calm I would class them as books because if someone's reading me at night time sorry stop're under the name of calm app i would class them as books because someone's reading me a night time story stop you're actually quite good you're better than me i've never

i've never read a book in my life so i actually i refuse to do that because surely in british did you not do it for a level or gcse or whatever you had to do it for gc. So for GCSE, we read in class. So the teacher would read us segments of the book. And it was... And I used to also... No, they never used to read us out because we were in the low class

and we were all dyslexic and none of us would be able to do it properly. It was really tough being dyslexic, but it's not going to lie. But I was always... I was very fortunate to be in schools where they really, like,

yeah, Caterpillar, and I had so many other kids that were the same, I just felt like it was normal and like I love it now I kind of use it as a bit of excuse which is quite rude like every time like Sophie you've got to read out the dilemma because you just can't be honest right shall I read it out today I'll read one out a short one we'll see how I go but yeah my school teacher read it what's of mice and men and then we watched part of the film of mice and men stop oh you are lying i did street name desire with um marlon brando and i literally fell in love with him so because you're so clever like you're probably in a way higher than me oh okay all of my friends are so bright every single one one. I'm like, top set. I'm the only one listening to this story,

this podcast will be like, Sophie can not be bright. I was just very exam smart, but I'm fucking dumb. No, you're not. This wine's going down a treat for Sophie. She just finished the glass up. I know, I did actually.

You're beautifully looking at me. I am. This is a good sign. This is a wonderful wine, guys. Yeah, there are certain wines that I really like, and then certain wines this is just a classic

lovely wine like if you're in a restaurant you know you can go for a Chablis and it's going to be lovely yeah you know quite an impressive one to go for

it's not as like basic I think because you're like I always just I'm so basic and I'm like yeah Pinot Grigio or like Pinot Noir

yeah so I just know they're always going to be like fine good wines but this is like a really lovely I think Chardonnay don't mind them they're okay they're always going to be like fine good wines but this is like a really lovely don't mind them they're okay

they're quite oaky aren't they oh I don't know I think they're quite like smoky quite smoky yeah I've got no idea but yeah a Chardonnay is always one that like I guess gets ordered when I'm at a family dinner like a Chardonnay is one that comes up serving one is also one that guess gets ordered when I'm at a family dinner. Like, a Chardonnay is one that comes up.

Yeah. A Sauvignon is also one that comes up sometimes when I'm at family dinners. But not at my family dinners. Like, at other family dinners that I've been to. Like, it just depends on what you like, doesn't it? Yeah. Some people love a Sauvignon. But I think a Chardonnay is quite a grown-up choice.

Sounds like you know what you're talking about. Sounds like it's a world-famous Chardonnay. Yeah, it is lovely. Maybe we should, like, mix it up and, like you know what you're talking about sounds like some words like champagne yeah it is lovely maybe we should like mix it up and like have champagne I'm just saying

oh I like this and some made canapes no what was the word that you said that was funny what I think a nibble on whilst we're doing it

a nibble on canapes canapes we should do it with some canapes some champs and canaps I love it some champs and canaps champs and canaps yeah banging let's get some champs champs and canaps i love it some champs champs and canaps yeah banging let's get some champs champs and canaps okay can we read some dynamics we've got so many this is just actually

a little note from a really sweet girl and i thought this is definitely something we need to read out because it's so validates like what I've said hey Sophie and Melissa love love the podcast all the way from Sydney which is super cute I did not realize people listen most really I love that such a great lesson and look forward to every week also for Sophie's wine allergy you should try some natural wine which is what I've said, organic, natural. Minimal sulfates, low intervention, is that what she said? Yeah, that is what she said. Yeah, low intervention. If you haven't already, it never gives you a hangover and is delicious without all the shitty preservatives that cause allergic reactions.

I can't drink regular wine now. Ha ha. Can't wait for the next episode. You, I won't say your name just in case you want to be anonymous but are a bloody delight anything that's not going to give me a hangover and will not make me yeah it's like blocked nose it's just like dreamy and we have had this conversation and you are not the first person to say this so that's like really good information you see i told you i'm not making up the organic ones you're not turning up you're not delivering with the organic only because also we get we have

been sent a really lovely like amount of wines and each week It's only because also we have been sent a really lovely amount of wines and each week Sophie's like, oh, we've been sent this this week, let's try it. No, this was what happened. But this was, you did have this in the cupboard. Yeah, but it's... I can see, guys. What?

Last week's wine is half drunk. Half like opened on the floor, like with the lid on. You're not going to drink that, are you? No, you take it home with you. You kept that hoping that you're going to drink it and it's just not happening, right? I kept it because I thought I would probably have a glass of red on my own but I wouldn't have a glass of white but then I'm not going to do it if you take it home you kept that hoping that you're going to drink it and it's just not i thought i would probably have a glass of red on my own but i wouldn't have a glass of white

but then i'm not going to do it if you take yeah no but that's probably gone now it's a week old it's probably going to be off and if you suck all the air out which is quite a good contraption i'll have to get you one of those for your birthday sorry what's this saves the wine for longer you shove this little like it's like a rubber oh yeah stop it and then you suck out the one the air and it sort of reseals it and then it lasts oh my god amazing good for you yeah very good for me especially yeah you have a cup when jamie's not here you have a couple glasses and then you're done i don't even drink when jamie's not here no well you do with me yeah i do it's such a treat anyway so yeah i'm gonna be honest the organic thing, not giving you a hangover, that analogy only works if you have a couple glasses.

If you go how on the wine like Heidi, and you have like a bottle and a bit to yourself, you're going to get a hangover. If I had a bottle and a bit of wine, I'd be honestly like, yeah, off the walls. But it does help, I will agree. It stops the clagginess in your hair. Do you know that grey, like, claggy feeling? It's like sticky, heavy. Yeah, it reduces that for sure without the sulfates and i feel like most wine companies probably are going in that direction but it's quite a new thing this organic

wine thing you know all right okay um this is quite a long one so do you want me to read it you did do very well reading that by the way i'm not that bad i just like you just kind of use it as an excuse okay i've never ever written into anything with a dilemma before but i would love some advice one i have at the moment i went on a hinge date with a guy who frankly is totally awesome i broke my never message first rule and asked if he would like to do something again he replies saying yes but okay could we do something again on a friend level we have now seen each other three times and he's very proactive in reaching out to me and setting up the next meet we have more and more fun each time and the last time we spoke he admitted that he wasn't really feeling the dating app as he had come out of a relationship on lockdown and so he

felt he should be single my dilemma is i'm starting to like him more and more and whilst it would be sad to lose this new friendship is it disingenuous of me to keep seeing him knowing i like him more than a friend i think he must like you more of his friend too okay so there's a couple ways of looking at this this is so like looking at it from a girl way and then looking at it from a guy's perspective so if I was him and I had just come out of a relationship I don't want to come across harsh I feel like the tough love maybe sometimes is needed so I think you're feeling quite lonely when you're fresh out of a relationship and you miss that constant interaction with another human and that like

you know so I mean he has been honest with you and said like he just wants to be friends but at the same time I think that you need to put your feelings first and be like shit if I'm getting feelings here and all he is seeing this as is the friendship you know is it a good idea to continue the date dating is so hard again like have they been kissing I guess yeah I mean I guess not if it's friendly I just know from

past experience having lived with a boy he kind of did do this and again I do think it came down to loneliness I do think boys like reassurance they like knowing that a girl's there they like female company because let's face it we're fucking great we are um and yeah that is one theory or you could look at it like she should probably just but like what she got to lose by saying hey I like you more than that like how long

can you be friends with him like without it damaging without it hindering your experience on dating otherwise you know like you might be putting off meeting the best guy ever because you're always with this guy and he only sees you as a friend so there's part of me that's like maybe it's a conversation to be had yeah maybe this is really tough this whole dating thing and it's such a mixed signal that he's very keen to set up the next day and like yeah so key and also like surely you have other friends you know why are you so keen for this new friendship kind of thing it's like there's a couple like angles you can look at this but I think if he has been honest with you and said just come out of a relationship shitting myself a bit about the app

I just want a friendship with you then that's you know obviously a very clear time because he's said it to your face or said it to you but then also strangely he's so keen to meet up all the time and like arranging the next date I think you've got to really put your feelings first and you know you can't leave the ball in his court to be like okay I'm going to carry on seeing you in the hope that you'll change your mind and be ready for us to like date romantically that's hard you're wasting your precious time and as Sophie said like you might be missing out on meeting another great guy that does want to be in a relationship with you or you know have a romantic relationship with you maybe like pause a bit on your friendship.

Still like, don't lose it. Maybe, you know, putting this in my position, I am not the person to go up to some guy who is meant to be my friend and be like, look, this is the way I feel. If I were you, what I would do though is I would start dating other guys. I would start messaging other guys.

I would not close the doors off. And I would make my the doors off and i would make my brain realize me and him are never gonna work if if you can handle just being his friend fine continue just being his friend if you are like seeking his friendship and thinking like i think one day i'll sway him yeah then you've got to cut you do there's nothing like you're just hurting yourself yeah totally and also i think for me personally like if if i knew that someone i guess didn't like me it would almost turn me off them yes weirdly i'd be like oh i need someone to literally be obsessed with me like i can't pine after someone and hope i i like never pine but i do fancy boys who don't fancy me. Who like openly do.

Really? Not who are like, oh no, I don't like you. But I like the chase for sure. But that's just me. But if he said to you like, I just want to be mates. Oh, I'd just be like, see you later. I wouldn't even want to be his friend. Yeah, I'd be like, no, no, no, I can't do this. Like, sorry, bye.

I'd just be like, it'd hurt my ego. Yeah, exactly. It would hurt my ego. And I would. I don't know whether that's what's happened with them i think they've just hung out and he's before she's like expressed how she feels he's just been like oh i just want to be friends so she's not in a place where she's embarrassed which is what i wouldn't yeah deal well with to be honest so i'd be like ah i'd be like bye never speak to you again if i was like like, oh, I really like you.

And then he was like, no, I just want to be friends. I agree. I agree with you. I think you need to decide if you can handle the friendship as just being a friendship and you're not going to like let it cloud the rest of your dating fun. And you definitely do need to still date. If he said to you, like, he doesn't want to have that kind of relationship. You can't just wait around for him.

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i don't know what i want feedback to this okay if you can handle the friendship and you can sort of just suppress your feelings and let them just go away and you're gonna get over that like little crush i guess that you've got then fine carry on with the friendship if not i would just really like put it on pause and be like i've just got to concentrate on myself and dating right now you know if that's not what you want that's fair enough but it's a bit confusing for me to carry on seeing you all the time oh my god I really like exactly yeah it does I love any of you guys notice Sophie every podcast you'll whisper something really every time it always does oh my god you actually are like you're trying to flirt with me stop it all right my time wait actually before we play another dilemma

there's another little mini dating i guess it's like a mini dilemma we've got a little voice note is someone that i know quite funny i know for a fact that she was a little bit drunk when she sent this in oh god and i feel like she was really like like not nervous but she was like i need this to be like because she obviously knows our podcast so she was like i need to know that what i'm saying is not going to embarrass myself i need to say i'm like saying the right facts but this is a genuine dilemma she said it to you before a couple of times. And I think we all have this at some point.

Come on, I'm there to listen. Hi girls, love the podcast. I've recently broken up with my boyfriend and it's hot girl summer. I'm really excited to be dating again. I'm happy to shag on the first date but don't want to make the first move or seem too keen.

How do I make it obvious that I'm happy to go home together without being too forward? You've got to be fussy, I love her too forward I love it she sent me a message the next day like did you um get my message and I was like what I was like checking my messages I was like no did you get a voicemail she's like I sent it to the podcast Instagram and I was like oh my god she was like listen to it she was like I was so drunk I had to pluck up the courage to send the voicemail how funny um farsi hello so many girls have experienced

that i know and you know what there's such a like slut shaming thing on like but then there's also so much like fuck it does it's hot girls family exactly what the fuck you want if boy sorry just so much it's passionate it's passion if boys can showerag those if so can we I I totally right I regret I guess in my past not doing things that I instinctively wanted to do or go home and no not go home and like just shag someone but like maybe I was in a position where I naturally would and it was like after like I guess a couple dates and like I was in a position where it would have been totally fine and romantic and I I wanted to do it so badly, but I constantly, like, stopped myself, because I was so, like, I mustn't do this, I'm a girl, I don't want to up my number, like,

that stupid mindset. Yeah, shut up about the number, also, you can lie about the number. No one has to fucking know, like, this is your private, like, thing, you know? Don't, like, if someone asked me what my number was, first I'd be like, you okay, you loser from year seven. I know. I'm not like, I have asked Harry his number a couple times, he still ain't tell me. Well, Jamie wouldn't know what his number was, honestly. I'm definitely sure he's got babies out there.

From the 30th. Oh, my God. Little blonde rugrats. Stop. Stop, everybody, my Chelsea. Oh, my God, I'm dead. No, but seriously. from the 30th oh my god little blonde rugrats stop stop everybody in my jersey oh my god I'm dead

no but seriously I think that it's you know something that we should just be able to do and I also think it's quite shitty

of boys to be this is the problem with it if you actually like someone shitty boys can I guess

be like oh I kind of got what I wanted sweet don't need to speak to her again but then i do think if they actually really like you i know so many of my girlfriends that are in really long-term relationships and they're like oh yeah we slept together on the first date felt right i wanted to and it was fine i guess me and jamie did did you well you knew

each other before is it so different it would be really weird if i was like oh i'm going now it's like we've known each other for years. That is a different scenario. That is a very different scenario. But I think just fuck it. Go for it, honey. Do you know what? I think go for it.

But my advice is, boys do like the chase, as do girls. And the only reason I'm saying this is because I like the chase. In the morning, do not be keen. You've slapped no i'm just gonna see that you gotta play the game bit yeah you gotta play the game so if you're new to dating go on honestly if you want to get back there feel the vibes if you're a bit drunk had a couple cocktails go do your thing but then the next day maybe take pool maybe don't i would you what I would do? I've always wanted to do the whole, yes, I would add them. And I've always wanted to do the thing, disappear before they wake up. And they're like, no, she's gone.

Yeah, I would want to just leave in the morning, like, because then they wake up and they go, I don't think you can do that. That's, like, really aloof and a bit weird. It's like, you know what, I've seen too many. That's always, like, you've used and abused that. I've seen too many films. No, what I do is I leave and leave my dad. What? Oh, my God, can I tell a story about Jamie? You can, indeed. I've seen too many films No what I do is I leave And leave my dad Oh my god

Can I tell a story about Jamie He was really upset He basically was so drunk And went back with this woman Who was much older than him Oh my god I know this story He woke up and he was like Surely that didn't happen

Turned over and was like Oh thank God no one's in the bed. Thank God. And then he goes and has a shower. Oh, my God, no, I can't wait. He's having a shower. And written on his mirror in red lipstick. That gives away the age of the woman, because, like, you have. Who wears red lipstick?

Yeah, like, go for it if you do, but, like, I definitely can't. Was had a great night, love heart. And he, like, literally crushed the problem like oh my god by the way this goes to the grave and i've just told all of you guys i've heard much worse stories from we're all like in it together like yeah you know what we've exposed quite a lot about ourselves so and jamie's got some great stories like in the dating world like we should get him on for a little dating segment the first date and this whole dating thing is hard they're gonna be so brutal they're just gonna be like oh he doesn't like you what do you guys think about if we did a foursome with Harry and Jamie and we replied to the dilemmas gave our girl advice and they give

the boys yeah because have you ever seen that film? He's just not in there into you. And, like, the boy's advice is, like, we always go through these things, like, oh, you know, maybe he just, you know, he's got something going on at home. And we almost, like, lull ourselves into thinking there must be, he can't not like me. But you know what? Maybe he just doesn't. And, like, it's as savage as that.

And you've got to just sack it off. Okay, fine. You don't fucking like me. Someone will love me. Yeah yeah and you move on you can't keep pining after some guy that's just giving you a half-hearted you know like as long as when you think about it you're like as melissa said like surely he should love me rather than like why doesn't he exactly wrong with me then it's fine i just don't want any of you girls and like i've always been very good at being able to do this like i've always been very good at being able

to do this like i've seen all my friends here they blame on themselves no don't you're fucking badass i don't think that if they don't like you it's down to you it's down to them they're lost exactly it's down to them and also some people i think what the problem is boys they're also cowards they almost don't have the balls sometimes to just be honest and be like look I really think you're great but like the chemistry's just not right for me yeah they string you along they string you along because they they like the attention I guess they can't that I think they're cowards like they can't bring themselves to do it and you know what some girls are like that I've actually done it with quite a few boys in my life where I've been dating them and I'm like geez I actually

just don't like you that much but I feel so bad now because they clearly like me and I don't want to say it and it's it's a hard one because at the end of the day everyone's human no one wants to hurt other people's feelings which I think is another thing the ghosting vibe that boys also do on the dating apps. I say dating apps. I mean, that's because we're talking about Hinge. But that's odd. Just be honest. Yeah, I agree.

Like, if you've gone on a date and you've spoken on an app, like, you have to just be honest. I think it's also a bit odd when people go on these apps and they're like, just for fans. Yeah, that is an interesting one one apparently those girls are on it just for friends i'm like really yeah i'm serious okay can we listen to the second dilemma i have a situation i've been in this for nearly a year now i need advice i have a manager he is super attracted but he's one to sleep around and at the moment he's window shopping, but we stack together in numbers.

I'm really in love with this. Oh my god, this is so good. I feel like I've gotten too deep, as he's been so emotionally supportive towards me, but he always said he only really has one night stands and never goes back to one, so I thought it would be just the one night stand. However, he keeps coming back to me and wanting my attention, and he gets very jealous if I mention other boys. Oh my god. I'm going to knock him off what he's a just a user i i can we for for a start he's your manager is this okay is this allowed like no this is naughty behavior for a start quite liking the

whole christian gray vibes that's what i'm kind of getting initially yeah but it just sounds like he's using and abusing all these chicks. And the fact that he's actually openly said, I only have one night stands. Oh, gross. That kind of put me off it.

Yeah. But also, that would make you, you, honey, if he's really fit, you'd be like, I need to tame you. Yeah, but I go so the opposite way.

Like, I just want to sweeten it. Oh my God, same. But deep down, you would be like, fully obsessed. Oh yeah. yeah but i but i go so the opposite way like i just want to speak to him oh my god same but deep down you would be like fully obsessed oh yeah like i need to tame me but i would just say it's so cool oh my god it's so hard to get you've got to play the game with these yeah predators yeah with the boys that like unfortunately you do farcey feel mental health you probably should just like sack him off because it's probably gonna like make you a bit especially in your work environment that's really like if you want to get him my advice is to just like sack him off because it's probably gonna like make you a bit especially in your work environment that's really like but if you want to get him my advice is to just like completely be aloof ignore him yeah on a couple days act really cool don't act like you hate him

oh my god be polite and be like oh my god it was so the same as me like do not worry like just i totally just joke with him yeah like chill out with him flirt still but like never text him oh my god no and when he texts you first you gotta leave it you know go back to the old school as in when we were at school and a boy would text you don't reply for at least two hours that kind of vibe you've got to really and when you do if i like one month just be quite sure and be like so sorry i'm so busy like i honestly like i really like obviously like he'll be like i know what you're doing like just in a really cool way like you know then he'll start calling you and you can be just make do busy yourself actually go out with your girls yeah actually go all the time test waters then by

the time that he like wants you you're probably going to be fancying someone else and also if he does really want you he will hopefully then be like look I am really quite ready

to like date you now I'm sorry what I said before I really like you or it is what it is and he is just a one night stand

predator as they say and maybe he just used him for the sex yeah you had a great time you fancy him don't get your feelings deep though no you

can't especially the fact he's your manager this is really quite intense actually thinking about it we've never been in like full-on offices where this has been a thing i almost can't imagine it like the only thing i can like revert back to is christian grace in that 50 days of grace yeah terrible business why am i doing that i mean I imagine this being quite sexy and steamy you're pitching a really older guy being really really like not that much older just a bit older than her being really sexy and powerful

35 year old silver fox that's why I'm pitching super tan so far from a really great really pictures can you please send us pictures in you know like great laugh, great really tan. That's when we send

that completely off. That's probably just my dream. This is like reading a book guys. This is what we do. We like pitch this whole thing in our minds to like place the story together. And you basically are like

going and getting the coffee. You see each other and like he grabs your ass and then someone walks in and you're like oh yeah do you want milk with your coffee? Oh my god stop this yeah.

Oh my god. Oh god it's steamy. It is ste steamy god i'm jealous to be honest okay like we're losing the plot we live through you guys oh my god we actually do this is an amazing story but at the same time you really need to be smart about it you know you have to play the game ultimately that's just like annoyingly how these boys like their brains just were like that so you know as you as sophie said like act aloof act cool let him come to you honey and own your shit be confident tell yourself you love yourself every day and when you do that your confidence will grow and he will come calling he'll sense it yeah that's bigger and better confidence is bigger and better and self-love is bigger and better than anything you can ever like

admit better than like looking great better than whatever you know yeah totally and if he doesn't come calling then you know that's his loss and it wasn't meant to be yeah and that was the end of that and by that time you'll be like feeling so great in yourself you'll probably like be dating those of others anyone else yeah exactly i feel like you're like really risk taker hilarious that he's actually said to her though like i only do one night stands like i actually would have laughed out loud if someone said that to me i'd be like who do you think you are i'd be like well i hope you got checked with all this one night stand oh my god yeah crikey i think our advice has been quite good on that one. Yeah, I think so.

Quite a nice fantasy we've just lived out for you. Yeah, I'm like really excited through that fantasy. Can you please follow up on this? Yeah, DM us again. Tell us what's happened like since this.

Boys don't ask or send us a picture. We won't obviously put it anywhere. We won't show it. It's really nice for us to see the vibe. Especially if she takes

something and you turn around around it's like flash whoopsie no just send us a linkedin profile that's good enough oh yeah yeah that's good just give us his name i'll stop myself yeah yeah just let us have a little follow-up on like what's happening now yeah let's know it is now the time for the boyfriend complaint of the week. Okay. So this week, no word of a lie, our hallway in our flats looks like an Amazon delivery office. There are so many boxes from Melissa's orders that it's beyond a joke.

Honestly, we get like 10 deliveries every single day. And then if Melissa goes a day without opening those boxes it's just a nightmare so yeah we can barely open our front door today okay i will like we actually had a bit of a not a row but like he had a bit of a go at me about it just before i came here because so we were out all day we were out in Selfridges I got some new makeup for myself and as we came home so oh I did no no they came in the box they were in one of the boxes when I got home so our concierge I mean we're very lucky like they pick up everything gets delivered to the concierge and they let themselves in they have a like thing they have a pass and

they put them all in the flat so when we get home there's all these boxes and it's quite outrageous they stack them up and harry was like oh my god i'm not there's i guess in the industry that we're in as well we also get a lot of like pr packages and harry was like oh my god melissa this is so much there's honestly seven boxes on top of each other to be whenever i come into your flat it's the same i open the door at the bottom stair and i'm like oh i bring i bring sophie's parcels up here it do stress me out a bit i'm so so grateful but the packaging i just wish they'd like dance on the plastic it's getting better though it is getting better but it's i know what he means because even i look at it and i'm like there's just so many parcels and today it was like like right before i came here i was like

i know but like i guess it's just it's it's the it's the future of all the deliveries and stuff like that like it can seem overwhelming and when you're in a small place like in london like you don't have this you don't have another room to like shove it in i opened sophie's like food cupboards and there's yeah anything it's all organised. Like, mine is, like, a lot of stuff is in there. I would not think of you like that. Yeah, I know. I think it's because, oddly, I think I've read that it's because I'm quite, I guess, a relaxed character.

Like, that sort of thing just doesn't stress me out. Yeah, I see that does. I'm really high-struck. Anyway, so the box thing, I do apologise for, he was like i was like oh gosh can you send your like um i said i would piss complain today he was like i don't have to complain about anything i was like what did we just argue about the boxes he was like oh my god you're right god but it is so annoying and like it's obviously not an issue but like it's something that's constantly like he's just got to deal with it and i'm like i'm so sorry about the boxes my mom's just the same my dad

always says that it's literally like a dpd like shipping yeah i stayed with jamie's parents at one point his mom was like honestly this isn't okay and i was like i am so sorry they were still getting my deliveries and she was like no oh my god Oh my God, so. She's in the country, has to go up the drive to get them. It's a big old deal. I'm so sorry. I had to cancel all the PR companies. Oh my God.

So I'm with Harry on this one. Prash. I am too. Melissa. It sucks. I'm sorry. I also have an online shopping addiction, which doesn't help.

Yeah, you really do. What the hell is in this month? You go out shopping, as in you shop in shops. No, I don in shops I online shop no I I don't really I half and half

um but I need to go get this training sorry I'm gonna copy you I came in when these trainers stay so good I'm gonna get this

is that okay with you no I said is it all right is it all right with you I was like of course it is we've got to check some people get so annoyed

there are certain things I'm like please don't copy you I don't mind. You're one person. You're actually the only person I can hand in my outfit that I wouldn't care if you had the same thing as me.

Yeah, same. Other people are like, no. But that's because we actually are very similar. Yeah, I know you.

We might get it anyway. Yeah. Exactly. It's just pointing out to you like, oh, lovely, I didn't realise they did that. Yeah,

they didn't. Like that kind of vibe. Whereas someone's like, you don't normally wear that shit. You've got it because I'm wearing it. Like, who are you? Oh, come on! This is only in like, I guess, our friendship circle. Like, or the outskirts of where you can see that someone's on it and is like, uh oh, you've just copied me.

I guess it's a compliment. It's a compliment it's a compliment it's the highest form we need to now rate the wine I'm honestly quite drunk on it

I'm gonna have another sip we've only gone through like one quarter yeah but I had that one must be quite alcohol it is for white wine

12.5 vol I don't know if it's just vol I say percent volume percentage I say a six

a seven I don't know I don't I don't drink enough white wine I'm sorry you know what's really hard when you don't taste it

against other wines but I'm really enjoying this I think you want us to have like four wines because then I feel like we could really rate it. Why don't we incorporate that then? I think we should.

Maybe once a month we should do like a little round up tasting and then rate them again against each other. Yeah. You're going to have to take that home with you. Some of them drinking. I'm by myself this evening. Can't do that. Yeah, but you're having other bars. No, not alone.

Yeah, but pressure will come back tomorrow. Sad times. I'm by myself tonight, tonight guys i'm going to go dinner and i'm not invited i don't expect you do no i have but like you won't come like for various reasons she won't come to this particular dinner um okay i'm gonna go for a 7.5 i'm gonna go half up didn't you because i thought it was really lovely i really enjoyed that you really like all the ones I choose I really enjoyed that

and I think the I think the bottle is very elegant I do think classic it's like a classic one you dab a pick 2019

like a lovely wine always 2019 I must have likely drawn to them in the supermarkets where's this from what supermarket um

I think it's from that wine shop I went to the other day I've got two I've got two i've got the gavi and that and that's why i've wanted to try it he he said this is very like the gavi and you know what it actually is it is it's lovely i'm really enjoying this like they're flavorsome flavorsome well guys that brings us to the end of episode i can't seven six seven but we love you

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