Wednesdays - Ep 8. When is it right to say "I Love You"?

Episode Date: May 31, 2021

Welcome back to our Wednesday wine club everyone! In this week's episode we advise someone who can't choose between two suitors and discuss when the time's right to say I love you. Please stay in touch with your dilemmas and wine recommendations - we LOVE hearing from you!Today we are drinking Apothic Red!https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/278453199Our ratings are:Sophie: 8Melissa: 8Love,S & M xSocial - @wednesdayswedrinkwineEmail - [e-mail] Productions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. Please play responsibly. Hello, I'm Sophie. And I'm Melissa. Welcome to our weekly podcast on Wednesdays We Drink Wine. The podcast where we drink wine, listen to your dilemmas and have a laugh. Hey guys! Hey guys! You know what's so odd? Even though I saw you last week, we've done it on a slightly different day, so it feels like it's been too long. I remember, I was like, Sophie, I haven't seen you in about two weeks.

It does feel like it's been really long. I feel like we've got a lot to catch up on we really do after this we're gonna have a big gossip yeah maybe we'll spill some bees have you guys noticed that whenever sophie says anything that's like remotely juicy or interesting she goes she whispers what and now i do it i'd say funny you know when you burn your hair on a hair straightener? Oh, God, don't tell me that. It's not me, is it? I haven't straightened my hair today.

I can smell it. Maybe it's coming from outside. Oh, God. Guys, Sophie smells awful. I suppose it smells all the time. Who can I say I smell awful? I was like, oh, here she is, sweating the wine. Okay, not on a light year.

We've had a couple sips of this already. This is not fresh tasting. Okay, do you want to tell tell me because this is melissa finally after about 20 years you've only to be fair we've been sent so many lovely ones lovely ones we wanted to have them so this is one i've been talking to you about for a while it's the apothic what's the actual can you tell apothic red apothic red if you guys watch a lot of youtube you would have probably seen it advertised it's like always at the front of the youtube it's like apothic red and it's like has this music playing to it anyway it's a bit like a vampire it does i went home ages ago yeah oh it is quite gothic gothic yeah yeah i feel you i went home and my parents had it in the fridge and I went mum in the wine fridge

sorry I was like gosh you have this red and she was like what do you mean she was like oh I just picked it up

and waited it was like one of the suggestions she always like thinks like what's the suggestion and she's like it's so nice

and it's so cheap so I actually paid something like £11.99 for this but this is in my general store they actually rip everybody off

and overprice everything yeah about £8 or £9 so it's a nice reasonable price and everything. I think it's about £8 or £9. Yeah, about £8 or £9. So it's a nice reasonable price and it's so tasty. It's so tasty. So should I tell you, I actually, when I was in wilderness filming, Julius was like, you're going to die, I'm going to show you this wine.

Oh my God, F's sake, I thought this was going to be the first time you tried it. No, I tried it then and I was like, it's pure vanilla. But do you know, interestingly, it's weird, we both like it because a lot of, like, miles and barry people are like, ooh, it tastes so sweet, they didn't like it. pure vanilla but you know it's weird we both like it because a lot of like miles and barriers like oh it tastes so sweet they didn't like i love it i love it it's very light very light very the first thing i said was oh my god why does it taste like chocolate i've never had a one like this guys ever in my life where my first sip i was so overwhelmed by the obvious taste of like chocolate and right what it says i think it says coffee dark fruit mocha yeah yeah yeah yeah like a chocolate coffee it's honestly so divine and obviously it's not

like drinking hot chocolate guys that you could have this with a meal and it's delightful but after taste it was like cacao it's just so nice cacao how funny i remember saying that to my brother cacao and he goes what is wrong with you it's cocoa and i was like no it's this new thing called cacao yeah he's so good english i just say acai acai acai acai that's really terrible but i do know what's wrong oh my god okay you know so was it last week of the week before we were talking a lot about prosexy and some prosex give me someasex and we were talking about canapes my sister yes my sister says some prasex and some canaps and I was like why is this just so funny to you no she's heard it from other but she's like oh yeah that's like what people say it's like a joke

like some prasex and some canaps like obviously it's not the way it's just like funny and I just love it I literally said to my girls like i'm having a boozy brunch basically with my girls tomorrow and i was like we'll have some sex and some the little italian place on kings road near the little roof terrace oh never heard of that we're still happy to eat outside guys we're not on the 17th yet but also can we all just like have a moan i know it's so british but what the hell is this about though i know that's why i was like we need to go for red today because i'm it's not a rosé or a white day today slightly jaded i had loads of my readers yeah a bit high over sophie is today's hair of the dog this is probably making you

actually feel better yeah it's making me feel better i couldn't i've drank a white that's why i said to you melissa was like oh the wine will make you feel better i was like no my stomach's full of acid this is good though yeah this is very like hot chocolate slash wine it's delicious i really really rate this one yeah it's like a go-to it's very smooth i know it's very smooth it's very mellow i can't believe that verity didn't like it. Oh, we went to get that app, Veneo app. Oh yeah, we've been talking about this, guys, and a lot of you have suggested it. She likes Rioja, like she likes those really heavy Spanish wines. Right, okay.

God, I really know my friends well, don't I? You do. What's my favourite type of wine? Yours is Provence. Rosie. Grenap. Grenap. I love it!

But you also love white wine that's not bad yeah I do to be fair I'm actually quite an easy going person when it comes to wine

as long as it's not shit yeah and as long as it's not like a shit Blossom Hill that's it oh that Blossom Hill as long as it's not

a crap wine and it's not a Sauvignon Sauvignon's not to my taste yeah but they're not shit you can get really expensive I know it's just not to my taste that's just not a wine that i like yeah i so agree we need

chardonnay so nice i know there's so many different we've got so many options i really want to try chardonnay and also we can actually start drinking like prosecco and champagne no you know what champs or champs champs i was out we can do sparkling wine i was out for my um mum's birthday and my whole family and my sister is i mean she's so good at like food and wine stuff like that i know which one it would have been and it no it was a a sparkling wine and it's english and apparently it's the new thing god it was an absolute fortune it was like 100 pounds bottle maybe that was it i had it the other day too and it was sensational the menu instead of champagne now yeah they do yeah and apparently it's it's over one it's won all the taste test awards in france by the french compared to champagne they've all picked a blind like a

blind taste test wow all the french have kind of screwed themselves honestly because they've chosen our english sparkling wine so go us yeah oh that's bloody great that's bloody great i know and it's so funny isn't it they've like raised it higher that might be a super became thing like two years ago yeah like been growing but i've seen it everywhere like it's recently it's just obviously it's gone boom like english restaurants have stopped and it's cheaper and it's just it's more authentic i love that i love it when you go to france and you have a lovely local french wine and when you go to england you have like a local it just it feels a bit more organic exactly something from the area yeah yeah you can't do that do you know which is really underrated which if you know i'm really giving that glass a swim at the moment

it's red so i'm actually allowed to be doing this i was going to go all over it no i'm very skilled and your wine glasses are christiana glasses so they are colossal do you know what i thought they were so normal this is what my parents made they're huge they are i love them like that's half a glass but it looks like it's a quarter. It's so deceiving. Actually, if I gave you a proper glass of that glass. You could fully pour in, I honestly think, the bottle into this. Yeah, sorry. It's so big. Carry on, sorry.

Ooh, what was I saying? So big. That's another one. So big. We're not even saying big yet. No, I just said big. Yeah, what is this one? It is like our group of fans, like people we know, loads of people are like, why like why do you shorten words like we also have our own language like hoot ugly where did that come

from i actually don't really ever say that that's a very sam thompson thing to say i think it's one like jamie yeah maybe and then sam's got it from jamie like is that a made up word hoot i say grima from my friend chrissy which is like for grossness yeah i know now i use it because you've used it so much in my presence but it's so good you know that like oh my god guys you know the type of share their drink with you wouldn't want to sit let's give an example of green guys okay fat on ham you know the fat oh my god i was gonna say within a person i know that's lumpy butter and bread that's grima to a person i know that's lumpy butter and bread that's green to me sorry i know that's lumpy butter and bread but you just get the spreadable or you'd have it at room temperature i know what you mean though okay so i was talking more about

green within a human so i know it happens to all of us but at the end of a long night or something i was gonna say the mascara goop like how when friends when you know that lady that he's dating joanna rachel's boss has the mascara goop that's green he when you know that lady that he's dating Joanna Rachel's boss has the mascara goop that's grima he just can't stand it and did he mention that he didn't say grima

I know guys the reunion 27th of May oh my god you know what I found out it's not actually a programme it's just them all sat in a room together

shut up on a chat show but still it's gonna be a game but Justin Bieber's on it and stuff I know it's not quite fun I thought it was

me and Harry were honestly expecting a movie I cried I fully cried I got tears I mean I was drunk at the time but like Friends is so much really I watched it yeah I know so do I guys I knew you'd be drunk because you posted the best day of my entire life no it actually was honestly if I like put in my diary yeah that's me I'm not I'm really gutted it's only a chat show I actually put a dinner that night oh honey put it on record it's okay wait yeah this is what i've heard i'm really quite gusted at that oh this is only for my follower someone followed me and she said just

so you know it's just a chat show thing i was like wow okay you kind of that's really really upsetting oh my gosh one of you guys also reported back on the porking chat and said that it is a thing told you and that people do say it yeah so told me clearly

and like bouj bouj is the new one so bouj her wine glasses are very bouj oh my god where are those glasses that were all engraved I'm really excited about

looking at those thank you so much we've got a little set yeah I can't remember I know that's what I was thinking. I just, just a second remembered. Oh, yeah. We will next week, next week.

Yeah, we've got next week. Also, we've got sent the most beautiful letter and the most beautiful bracelet. It's one that's the one that's very, very, very kind. And it's a massive shout out to you. Yes. Sending you lots and lots of love and hugs. Yeah, let's say her name. Did you just say Anne Huggs? lots of love and hugs yeah let's say her name did you just say

and hugs yeah love and hugs we're sending you you know through the microphone oh yeah yeah yeah we can't obviously see you um her name is caris caris burnett thank you so much for your gorgeous letter um we are so so sweet you like the podcast and that has helped you get through lockdown and your bracelets are so sweet and jamie loves his oh my god i'm so babe and we can't make it hopefully meet you one day or hopefully very touched we're so much we are any more letters send them in thick and fast thick and fast and they're it's just so much there's something really special about the letter oh yeah keep them forever yeah and it's just so, so, so personal. Have you ever been to a doctor's appointment?

I have. An ex or anything? Or, like, have you ever fallen out of it? I think I may have written letters to my mum when I was, like, super young at school, but I'm so dyslexic, guys. Oh, so nothing makes sense. No.

Like, I can't, honestly. Have you ever written one to my ex? My ex has written one to me, a very deep one. When I'm, like, really fucked up not like a like cheater or anything but you know what i mean like regrets yeah definitely done that it's just a more touching personal thing actually you're meant to actually write letters to yourself and burn them if you're feeling like anxious and stuff really yeah so it's a do you know where i heard that from um you know katie piper yeah that amazing woman who yeah was she her therapist actually told her to because obviously she was dealing

with a lot of anger yeah yeah what happened to her and she ripped that wrote letters she ripped those letters ripped the letters um but she said it was a massive help so she wrote it on write a letter, write down your thoughts also apparently I have heard that also drawing and stuff like that is meant to be fabulous for your mental health I went through a stage of colouring yeah it's meant to be really really good

and we encourage children to do it but then as you get older you stop but actually it's the best thing for you to just just like get something out like on a piece of paper on like a canvas and just go for it oh what on a canvas i think that's any form of art like just expressing your feelings in any sort of way it's meant to be very like good for you yeah i just all like get a coloring book like they're so underrated what are the ones with the the really the number paint by numbers oh yeah they're quite good they're quite goodrated what are the ones with the the really the number paint by numbers oh yeah they're quite good then it's always very impressive at the end because no one knows you

don't paint my nose you're like look what i've done yeah i might feel more creative yeah and do it on like a little time lapse show us all oh i'll hold you to that maybe we can do it together maybe we should do the workshop oh i know i should paint my numbers workshop oh my god that would be lovely people have wine and they do art that is a combination that just sounds lovely but come and say we'll do it with painting coloring oh i think that's a bit of pottery as well maybe no i've tried it i'm so bad at it painting the pottery i I like that. Painting like a mug, you know.

Actually, that was like really where I got it. Something. And I used to go, what was it called? Pottery glass or something. I don't know. Like always as my friend. I remember there was a mermaid that I painted. Oh, God.

Still, my mum has kept it. I did it for Father Christmas. And a snowman. And my mum kept it. Oh, my mum. I think the snowman's foot got chipped and it's still in there oh god yeah that was

guys and that was like proper activity yeah that was like birthday parties you'd go to birthday parties and paint

yeah yeah yeah my walls I think my walls it was your part it was mine that's oh

okay I have to tell you lovely memories I'm going to fully die of this okay guys please don't judge me because i was honestly like seven i went to a place called hatton country wells don't know whether you've ever heard of it it's basically like a country farm and it's for really young people and you go and you stroke there's a guinea pig farm there's but there's pigs there's goats you go stroke them and there's

obviously like bungee jumping and then there's like a gold mine where you like go through gold and you find coins and it's super fun okay i loved going because i like was obsessed with the outdoors when i was younger yeah we all were i really was my sister really wasn't she was like really played we indoors i would never into like indoor to computer games i was always outside my I was always outside. My brother was quite into the indoors, but he was also very, very sporty. And I was a bit of a tomboy as well. I loved... The camo trousers.

Yeah. Oh, my God! I would like, I would like pretend there was like fairies following me in the garden or like play hide and seek and be like,

did all of that stuff. I do. Okay, there was a film that I watched when I was younger. Yes, Secret Garden. About these fairies. Okay, Secret Garden. Yeah, obviously classic. I was obsessed with that. There was another one. That was like, that was what I was younger yes about these fairies okay secret garden yeah obviously

classic I was obsessed with that there was another one that was what I was about these fairies and I remember thinking like I'd find trees and I find like a bit of like that like fungus at the bottom that makes it like it's almost like a mini toadstool thing sticking out the bottom of the tree and I'd be like this is like a fairy's like place oh my god and i fully like made like bits of furniture and leave it there i think like for my dollhouse like they're gonna use that my sister and i when we moved into our first like big house we had like this it's like it was almost like a fairy world there was like this core courtyard which was like secret garden it had loads of wires and had like a bent tree that grew up like that and we would

give the tree facials mud baths my mum would be like where's the mop we've got it, got mud, water we'd mop it and give it a facial for the fairies because we thought that was the fairy tree I remember it being like

by the way my sister, no offence if you're listening, you were way too old to be doing that, she was definitely like 12. so they'd have these guinea pig farms anyway you could sort of bend down and you could stroke them yeah my mom kind of let me run wild a bit when i was like she would have been having natural coffee and like right wasn't keeping two eyes on like yeah this is outrageous they have baby guinea pigs and i know you're gonna say you've lost it in my hoodie and in my head i was like i'll take it the same as my pet i got in my dad's car i was driving back we were halfway down the road we live quite far away from there and i went to my friends she was like last night she's like we're gonna get arrested by the police oh dad don't see

like what is going on spam the car around he had to take his bike i mean he did get in trouble but i think i got in massive trouble with your parents i thought you naughty naughty girl it was in my my hoodie pocket. How old are you? About seven? Maybe younger, six. But like, how old were you? Too tempting for a child though.

Yeah, I think in my head. Oh, I'll take that. That's for me. Yeah, it would be for me. Where was I going to put it in a box in my bedroom? I love how you put it in your little, I bet it was a gap hoodie. It was a gap hoodie. I remember it so well

my dad used to have a big room I was really cramped oh my god the poor flipping lucky you didn't suffocate the poor thing you know what you probably gave it a lovely adventure and you took it back to it's home I took it back to it's home and it probably got more attention I think they were like really laughing

at the situation and I remember having to go and apologize to the manager like my parents made me and i had to like write a letter to it i think my parents this is where the letter came from plea like a police to make you understand how awful the consequences were yeah good you naughty naughty girl terrible business but when you're young like things like that like i feel like you always have like a weird dude were you allowed were you the type of kid who has two types of children in this world the kids that were allowed as many weird and wonderful pets as they wanted so harry had a gecko yeah i think he had a hamster he had all these weird things i was not allowed anything absolutely nothing no no no we

didn't even have dogs all i wanted was a turtle i was we had tortoises oh i take it back but they were from my mum when my mum was about 13 tortoises last for blood so my mum had them wow that's actually quite yeah and we used to to give them, like, oil facials. So on their shelves, we would, like, wash them with soap, and then you'd get, like, olive oil on a cotton ball, and you'd, like, rub the olive oil over them all. I think that's probably quite nice. We didn't even have any.

We didn't even have any. Yeah, they're just very, like, they're actually bloody quick if you, like, leave them out. I really wanted to get terrapins. This guy used to bring them to our office, and I'd just sit, and they would nip my little fingers out of it. Oh, my God, the poor things. That's not a safe environment for a pterophant I do not rate that I was so desperate for a normal pet

When I was younger that I used to capture Snails And put them in No no no boxes You know when you used to get like a Chinese takeaway Those old plastic you don't get in these days I put them in no no no boxes okay so you know when you used to get like a Chinese takeaway those old plastic you don't get them

these days I put them in there with a couple air holes and I would play we had this like little like recorder that would play like sound effects

and I'd play bird noises thinking so they would have like outdoor nature my mum would use and I used to okay wash them

in warm water and soap obviously I had no idea I was so young probably killed the poor things i did with worms as well i was so desperate to have a pet and i and i really thought that i was i was just sophie i i was just so desperate and i'll never forget at night i would leave the snails outside because mom would make me leave them outside the back door at night obviously i

was and then in the morning they were just gone she was like i don't know where they've gone obviously she was letting them out every night that is hideous i was just so desperate of slugs and worms my sister if she sees a worm will run and run and burst and shit now i would like on the netball pitch they'd always be crawling around the astro tab but you'd always see a rogue on the astro do you know what i did which is really oh i did actually have answers i had two answers but oh my god sophie that's like the dream no but i would have killed that because i do you know what I did? Which is really, oh, I did actually have hamsters. I had two hamsters. Oh my God, Sophie,

that's like the dream. No, but I would have killed for that. reason for that because I basically, I'm pretty sure I caused my parents to lose because I slept in the bed from the age of, honestly,

five to, honestly, I must have been 30. Oh my God, that's terrible. But my room was haunted. I'm telling you now, now we've moved,

my mum's like, yeah, it was haunted. Oh, that's not good so they thought if we give her a hamster and put it in her room and they had this whole table set out for and i oh my god i had the cutest room i had like a tea party i had like a table and i had two tellies and tea like a whole tea set i was very very like into princessy kind of yeah yeah

i was tomboy but like my room was very princess like and like kind of same i think i like you like that like dolly like yeah yeah yeah really girly and they put the hamster i remember and it would go all night long so i couldn't sleep so i actually did more harm yeah they start running apparently on the running machine like at night like they just go for it little thing oh no you're going to tell me you get crushed it went in the ball you put them in these oh yeah

and then they can move around the house down the stairs shhh it still survived though little chip chip was a bastard he'd bite you all over

biscuit was gorgeous biscuit I'd like snuggle around now I'm really sorry I'm really I don't know little chip biscuit and chip my grandparents had a dog called biscuit Biscuit was gorgeous. Biscuit, I'd let snuggle around. Now I'm really sorry, I'm really, I don't know. Let's watch it.

Biscuit and Chip. My pet, my grandparents had a dog called Biscuit, little Cavalier. Biscuit's a really cute name for a pooch or a pet. I thought the reason why was because Biscuit was like a biscuity colour. He was like brownie. Yeah. And Chip was ginger and white. And I thought he looked like... Chip, the little bastard.

Nip on your finger he would rub him bite all over naughty and then i don't know what happened to him i think i gave him to my cousin or something because i was not cleaning the cage and she was like yeah if this is the thing i think when you're younger like it is actually such a responsibility and the parents don't want to do it yeah it's like it's hard that's why i was just not allowed because i just i think my mum had grown up, they bred guinea pigs when my mum was younger. I know.

Really? My mum just sounds like she had quite a dreamy childhood in terms of that. They had loads of ponies, loads of dogs, and they bred guinea pigs. And they had a sweet shop.

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Also, I really apologise for calling it a moustache my parents are highly upset with me why? it's funny I actually said to her the other day

your moustache my dad honestly said where have you got that from yeah but it's obviously not the pronunciation you know that it's just funny I've never heard

I think it's like when you think about it too much you then like over pronounce weird things. I always get a speech impediment sometimes. Maybe. Yeah, maybe.

It's the alcohol. All right. Okay, ready? I'm going from first on first. So I'm currently talking to this guy. We've known each other for years and were friends in school, but recently reconnected and have been on a few dates. Lovely.

He's so sweet to me and he said that he's been waiting two years to finally date me. Oh my god, sweet. But, oh there's always but, but the guy who I've been in love with for four years and had on and off friends with benefits scenario has come back into my life and says he wants to have a relationship with me. No, bad news. In the past he's been shady

getting with other girls, goes to me a month at a time, so I'm really not sure how serious he is of whether I can trust him or to be loyal. What should I do? Go for the new guy who has done nothing wrong and makes me feel happy? Yes, obviously. Or would I regret not giving my first ever chance in case he's the one I've got away? Sorry, I just want to say you probably aren't in love with that first guy.

You just are in love because you've never got him. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. What's the thing when you're, like, um... Infatuated. Infatuated. That is the word. We have all been there.

And it's when they... It is the chase. Actually, you know what? I don't think I have been there. But I've seen it happen to so many people. Like, it's such a common thing. Yeah. The infatuation thing.

And, like, I'm sorry he's had his chance this this bloke that's been your friend on and off that you're in love in love with in quotation marks he's ghosted me for months at a time like i'm sorry no we can't deal with that oh god she's moving on shit i want her like i'm unfortunately that's probably the truth yeah and it's just a control not a control thing almost like a what is it the boys a bit of a control and ego yeah the whole thing is just classic classic boy behavior all over and you know what it's it's also classic human behavior because you know he's been on and on on off with you and that's what's made you so keen and now you've been off with him seeing this other boy and that's what's made him so keen maybe and um yeah I don't rate that behavior from him if he's truly like you know you

need to see the good that's in front of you with this other boy that's obviously like really into you and he's got good intentions yeah and also it is true like boys do get scared i understand but if a boy i'm sorry it's brutal truth if he really liked you the other guy he would not have ghosted you totally not mess you around he would have been with you like over four years you would be together and there's a reason you're not and it's because he just doesn't like you enough yeah i'm gonna be brutally honest because i don't want you to mess up something that could be really good based on this arsehole that's just playing games it seems like yeah he just likes an ego because he wants his cake and eating it exactly and i think that i almost think you have to cut him out your life because

it just doesn't sound very healthy it's a little bit toxic yeah you know he's had you and he could have had you for four years four years it's not i'm sorry you've had your chance honey yeah see you later yeah i totally agree and i think you focus on what's good which is this guy not the one who doesn't meet and you've said he makes you feel good yeah so focus on that revel in that it's rare you know that is what you deserve yeah that is what you deserve and i think it's so nice to have someone that just like worships the ground you walk on you know yes feels good feels bloody good i hope you um listen to us and i hope you follow our instructions because i'm certain that's just like i do believe in second chances however i feel like four years

you've had enough chances you know what i mean like four years, you've had enough fucking chances. You know what I mean? So four years, like second chances when like he's not known, but ghosting someone for a month. No, no. Okay. It's fully not acceptable. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry to be brutal, but he's not.

Okay. Hey ladies, I have a dilemma. So I've been with my boyfriend now for just over two years and he has never told me that he loves me. The words have never left his mouth. Shocking. I'm very reluctant to say it as he tells me it's a big thing to say two years that is honestly bizarre i kind of understand him purely from the fact that i'm his first girlfriend we're 22 23 by the way what and he doesn't know what he love feels like and

he doesn't even say to his mom and dad that he loves them contrast me he says it to my parents twice a day what so oh wait you say it to your parents twice a day but he doesn't say it to anybody she says it to him twice a day too and he doesn't ever say it back okay he's okay right are we done it doesn't affect me that much because i know he would never tell me we're pretty happy together when we have had a bit of a wobble in the relationship he was so sure that he couldn't lose me I just would love him to say it as I'm such a romantic I feel like I compromise a bit but honestly it's two years and I kind of want to hear a bit because I'm a needy person and like the great assurance whenever I ask him he won't say it it seems like a bit of a sore subject he never wants to talk about it I firstly you're not needy firstly you are not needy you are human you're chilled have you yeah flipping hell two years i'd be like you're right oh my god when

did you say it to harry i he said it to me very quite early on that he thought he was falling in love with me and i was like oh, same. It's because I'm so great. I've got that enough to teach you how to be a man. Yes, of course you are. Yeah. So, I mean, this is a really tricky one because if your relationship is really fab and like... He might just be really unemotional. Yeah, there's something going on here

if he doesn't even say it to his parents. This is almost... I don't like that. Yeah. There are people who are like that, especially boys. God, I am so like... I go love you to everyone. Love you, bye.

Love you, bye. On the phone. I miss you. You said it to my daughter. Love you, guys. I'll be like, love you, bye, bye. Yeah, I know. I know.

I love you to everyone. Same. Boys, everything. Love you, bye. Same. Maybe we should stop. I know. We're being too generous with our

love you so much um this is really hard because if your relationship is great and there's no other faults you know really and you've been together for a long time and your relationship sounds solid it's just this one thing and it's all it is at the end of the day is a word actions speak louder than words and there's obviously something going on where he's deeply i guess he's issued by the word like there's an issue with that he obviously just like can't open up yeah he's obviously just super close a closed book when it comes to emotions and like some people are just like that but i don't think it he shouldn't be that difficult yeah but maybe he just really...

Maybe you do just have to sort of... You just have to accept it, maybe. You just have to accept it. And, you know, you know he loves you. Maybe let him write it to you. Does he ever... You know, I need more info. Please follow up on this.

Yeah, go on. Like, I would love to know, like, on a birthday note in the card, does he write lots of love or love from or i love you is it ever ever ever ever ever ever or does he just write from no i think you would like yeah very formal from best or just like andy andy kiss that's where you get a kiss kind regards oh my god like if you've got it you know you have to be really secure in yourself you know he loves you which is so great you're saying that because you have said that you know you trust you've been cheating on you you feel so secure in the relationship which is key

so you sound like you're pretty secure in yourself as well so what you have to work out is you know for me it'd be more so the love you yeah whatever but it'd be more like if he's not kissing me if it's not yeah like you clearly don't like me kind of yeah and what my thinking is is but maybe his parents don't say to him like maybe it's just something his family don't do which is obviously like you know but i think that there's you know what i actually can relate in some way because my mum's side of the family are you know

they obviously they love you we give each other two kisses but my dad's side are very like so extravagant love you

love you lots of hugs lots of kisses right sit on my knee just cuddle the whole time and my mum really actually

when she met my dad wasn't like that she wasn't that affect touchy feely yeah yeah affectionate, yeah. And now she was. So it grew.

And I actually kind of think I am, like, Jamie's so affectionate. I'm not, like, I'm affectionate, but I'm not, like, 40 kisses a day. No, yeah. And I've had to sort of, like, become more affectionate, I guess, because Jamie...

You adapt. Yeah, you adapt. So, like, give it time. He's got to say it at some point I know this is quite ridiculous like you know are you gonna I mean you're 22

and 23 you're still very young human beings I wouldn't put pressure on him though because I think he might get I know but I think

you know just maybe have a conversation and be like I know that you do you know do we there is actually a movie quite similar to this

what where I think Jude Law's in it and who's the girl that was in Black Swan oh Natalie Portman oh I love these two what movie is that it's they're quite young and he's saying I love you I love you I love you and they've like broken up getting back together broken up anyway and in this film she goes to him she goes you're saying the words but I don't actually feel it you don't love me they're just words so I think it's like a fine line like maybe for some people it's an enormously enormously

big deal and I don't feel like this boy would be with you in a relationship which he is if he didn't love you because that's just you know he would do that there's definitely love there he's just obviously got something going on like some people just said it doesn't mean anything and some people I guess just don't say it at all because they're so unbelievably afraid yeah it's such a big thing to him which is yeah really nice like there are definitely people I say love you mind you and I don't mean it like you know I'm not yeah I don't love you I don't love you I'm saying bye like yeah yeah I love you but like there was something no I know yeah and I know like my ex definitely I think compared to Jamie like Jamie was is very frivolous with the word love you yeah I obviously know he loves me but it is very different like with my ex I think it was a

really big deal okay um so it does depend on the guy yeah it so does kind of it's a bit more special when they say it. Yeah, maybe. But I do feel like two years in, I totally feel your pain. I would be very much so like, just effing say the word to me. Like, what's wrong with you?

Yeah, it's three words. Like, we've been together for two years. If we're not in love right now, like, what is this? I say it to you twice a day. Yeah, I would be, oh, that's so... So what does he say back?

Does he just go, thanks? You know, how does that... Yeah, like Ross and Mona. Yeah. She's like, I love you. She's like, I'm not spending time with you. I need some good dating stories. Same.

Have you, you've not really ever dated. I feel like I literally want to date other than dating. I just am so desirable. I get snapped up the moment I'm single. I do. No, honestly've just kind of I'm so desirable, I get snapped up The moment I'm single No, honestly Like seriously No guys, I'm so joking I guess it's just happening to me

I've missed out on the old I really miss out on dating I think it's Dating is hard And you go on some really shitty dates, you know, my friends, from what my sisters told me, like, you know, it is great fun, and you go out and you meet some, I guess, like, interesting characters, but when you have a disappointing date, I think it's quite exhausting after a while, like, just get me a good date, like.

Also, like, imagine turning up and being like, no, ooh, green. Yeah, and then you also to sit out for a whole dinner should I tell you what greener is we need to go back on this yeah

the white bit the spit either side of the mouth of the mouth it's like well or a girl's mouth to be honest

yeah it's like no sort yourself out hun no I totally agree has it ever happened to me no never

but I like honestly get paranoid about it I'm so so if we go for dinner she goes do I have green mouth I'm like fuck no

I never get paranoid like I just or like to be fair when you put a lot of lipstick on it does kind of sometimes it gathers you have to like scrape it away and I also find

the mascara goop gathering especially now with this new trick with this new with this new trend of like putting the eyeliner on the inner corner

which I do do but I have to keep yeah because you have the eyelashes there so it naturally looks like you have the flippin' eyeliner. I have eyelashes there and I'm like,

eyes, guys. No, on the inner corner and it's actually so beautiful and it looks like she, I mean, she has this beautiful shape, but it's like very almond, is that right,

very almond shape? They're not beautiful with the eyes. No, they are. So people put eyeliner there now. Yeah, but eyeliner is very different to hair.

No, but you just naturally have, no, but it's like one tiny little petite eyelash that looks like a sleek line I'm actually gonna have to look in the mirror yeah

so the mascara goop from Chandler is another thing for me which I'm like I look in the mirror and I'm like god why didn't anyone tell me

but then I'm like why would they because you know it's I can't imagine you ever having mascara goop it's never bad

it's just like naturally like if you have yeah when it's bad breath it's just like a cup it's like naturally like if you have yeah it's bad breath it's just like so green yeah that's greener what else is greener there's other things that are greener where we talked about it um and you've got a greener oh i feel like it's a daily thing like oh god they're just so obvious you know this is my friend for chrissy's like family thing that I love the family I love it yeah they all say green oh my god that's so funny sorry there's a word that I use as well and it's completely gone out my head because I've had a drink or two um what is the word

oh my gosh you guys next week hopefully that I can remember the word because I'm not remembering just like the ick that's what you always say remembering. Oh and just like the ick, that's what you always say. No, yeah there's the ick but there's something else I say. Uh, like clammy. Oh, claggy! Claggy! That's it, claggy. Oh yeah, they feel a bit claggy. It's just like clammy hands

or like, you know when you've had your makeup on all day long. Oh and it's just claggy. Just your armpits are a bit claggy yeah yeah yeah yeah you just want a big scrub scrub you need a clean like claggy boys don't really get claggy i feel like it's more of a girl thing and it's also when you're a bit hungover and you just feel like no matter how many times i wash them always just like a bit claggy also like thick waxy skin i know it's so mean to say but you really can't help it but that kind of gives me greener i don't think

i've ever come across that it's like more of a manly thing. Yeah, like... On the forehead. Thick skin. Just like, you know when they've got, like, thick, waxy skin? If you know what I mean, like, sorry if I'm being a bitch, but that kind of gives me dreamers. Right, guys, it is that time of the week.

It is now the boyfriend dilemma. Or the boyfriend complaint. You ready? Okay. It's from the beast this week right my complaint of the week is i don't like it when there are locked doors in the house don't know why we lock doors i like doors that are being open and sophie when she has a shower or does things like that she tends to lock the bathroom door so i can't get in i'll tell you why because i am a human being and although girls don't poo you walk in on me in the bathroom at all times so sometimes when i'm having a shower i'm not actually having a shower i see and he's like oh my god leave me alone also guys in this flat there is honestly about three showers and three bathrooms i don't understand why can't he just leave you alone he's like honestly every time i go into the bathroom he decides to follow me out there to show me like something on the phone

i'm like no no no no no so then obviously oh my god how flipping annoying which by the way is so normal i can have a shower like What if I want to shave? I don't really want him walking. No, yeah, I feel you. I'm not. The only time that that happens between Harry and I is if, like, I'm busting for a wee and I'm like, Parsh, you've got to come in. And, like, if the door's locked, she's like, oh, it's fine.

But then I've got to go. I can unlock the door from the other side with, like, a penny coin or something or a key. Oh, no, I don't think we can. No, I don't think you can do you remember that time you locked yourself in the loo and then the neighbour or a handyman

had to come and let you out I was like your mum was actually so mad at me on Instagram she was like are you okay if you didn't have

your phone with you how many hours would you be stuck in I know I dread things my last night I was getting locked in the bathroom

like naked locked in any room any room oh god no to be fair you'd be alright in here you could open the door and like, neither. Locked in any room? Any room. Oh, God, no. To be fair, you'd be all right in here. You could open the door and, like, shout down. Yeah, you could. But what would you say?

Excuse me. Can you help me get in? But then how would they get into the other... Like, you'd be screwed. I've been locked up in the building quite a lot, actually. I always leave my keys everywhere. I'm such a scatterbrain when it comes to that. Gosh, so...

But I call someone who has a spare set and I have to go. But, like, the worst when your phone's on low battery. Like, you just look like the girl's back there. And my phone is always on low yeah why why is okay guys if anyone else has this I've actually got a bug within my iCloud backup it just means I have to wipe my whole phone I'm not quite ready to like let go of all my photos and my contacts yeah it's in the backup the bug the virus so whatever phone i like put my stuff onto it happens it just drains the battery that's a real bummer it's a real shitter isn't it that's a real that's shitter of the week like i'm so legit i locked the door give me some privacy huh yeah when i ever go to the loo i I mean sometimes I run the tap. Yeah, I run the shower. Don't want you listening. Yeah, run the

shower, run the tap, you know, that's normal protocol for a gal. And you know what I actually know, you know it's quite funny, like you kind of just know when the other person's doing it and Jamie obviously has not talked on. It's disgusting. Stop this now. I actually hope you're listening because this actually will

be the end of us if you don't behave do you like change his fuck your table manners up his um

toilet manners hideous yeah that is hideous yeah I know 32 year old what's he doing you know what

I never understand those relationships you know what I am not where they will go into the other room and just sit

with their partner whilst they are on the loo but I wouldn't even really do that with you. I just think that's kind of gross. Oh, my God. I would never do that with you and a girlfriend. I'd be like, get out.

I don't want to. Oh, wee. Different thing. But if I'm going for, you know, number two, get out. Sorry. But, like, loads of girls I know do do that. I've never done that with any of my friends. No, I don't want to smell your shit.

Actually, to be fair, we've kind of done that with each other. I won't digress. But, like, I've been in your room and you've been in the bathroom and we've been like having a chat. But like, not in the same room. Yeah, but not in the bar. In the... Yeah, that happens quite a lot.

Oh God. I can't believe it. Yeah, but I feel you. Lock the bloody door. Stop trying to get in. This is my private space. Yeah, it's like, also, even if I were to just be having a shower...

I've locked the door for a reason. i don't want you to come in and honey everyone needs time out from jamie len because he's like a bloody dog yeah you're gonna have to have your own quarters in the next house you live in yeah yeah we've come to that time of the week god that went really fast it did I feel like we have rambled on guys we've almost been going for an hour

golly gosh it's been lovely though it has we have to rate the wine okay right can I have a refill as well yes yes yes I have glugged that glass

we made it I've nursed that glass yeah you've done so well I have done well I wasn't talking you up at all I've really done so well I you've done so i have done well i wasn't talking up at all i've really i've really done well oh i actually would give that an eight i really same and it's just cheap you know what i will say though if you have too much it gives you a real thick head in the morning oh really but you know what i feel like red wine just does that doesn't

it we haven't tried an organic wine i was debating i was looking at that and my organic and i was like you know what i'm so'm so desperate to try this. But you flipping already had it. Oh. I was really excited for you to try it. No, I don't. Apothic red. I don't.

Oh, I just don't remember. I love it. You just wanted a similar bit. So where's it from? Is it a California? California wine, which I think is so cool. I feel like parent trapping the vineyards. No, I'm happy.

I went for this thing there. How delightful. How itles, Abby. I reckon it's me there. How delightful. Have a look, Sue. Right, okay. Inspired by the apothec, a mysterious place where ancient wines were blended.

It's masterfully crafted smooth red blend rich layers of dark fruit and are complemented by hints of mocha and vanilla. That is where, yeah.

That lovely flavour comes through. You really do taste it. It does contain sulphates though, which obviously you do. We know it does, yeah. It's a USA rhyme, which really do taste it. It does contain sulphates though, which obviously you do. Obviously. We know it does, yeah. It's a USA wine, which is kind of rare. California.

California. Here we go. Here we go. Oh my God. Oh my God, you guys. If you need someone to sing at your wedding. Stop. You were quite good.

I was so funny. No, I was not. Me and Sophie will be there okay yeah i out of 10 i'm with you and also let's just talk about the legs because this is a red one apparently the legs is an alcoholic it's quite alcoholic right it's 13.5 vol i love the way safe says bowl but bowl so massive yeah i think that i think that is is an i asked when i was at restaurant hide hide restaurant sorry i asked the sommelier and i was like what does the legs can you please just give me and he was like half talking to my dad and i was like and he said something about i

think it's the level of alcohol that's in it i'm not sure if i heard that correctly but well this one's got quite quite lovely legs they're not that thick but i mean they're visible we can see them yeah they're drooling down nice and slowly however the correct camera and it smells that this is one of the best no i think that's heaven like yes they always very alcoholic when you just smell it like that but like how weird because I never smell that in a restaurant like when I see no neither maybe it's these glasses

they like really like just scooch in the wine smell yeah but that smells really tasty like that smells guys it's such a good wine and if you want to impress

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