Wednesdays - Ep 80: Lottie Moss talks ex’s, only fans and older men!

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

This week we are joined by the one and only Lottie Moss for a delightful wine and a gossip. We talk ex's, only fans and older men and thing's get WILD! Love S&M xxxThis week we decided to treat ourselves and we drank a bottle of Nyetimber available here.Sophie Rating: 6Melissa Rating: 7.5Lottie Rating: 8 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help all right well cheers gang All right, well, cheers, gang. Cheers, bitches. Look how full my... Look how lovely... Oh, no, no, no, that's pathetic. Don't judge me. Do you know what's happened to you? You've gone down in my boots with the boozing. Yeah, but you know why I'm doing that?

Because I'm miserable. You know why I'm doing this? By the way, guys, we're introducing the... Lottie Moss. Can we get a round of applause? We can all hear you. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeehaw.

No, I'm so excited to do this podcast. What we do is we taste a little bit of wine. We are drinking bubbly today. It's an item and you can get it from Waitrose for £38. And then we gossip on celebrity gossip typically because we're just really shallow. I love it though. I love that stuff

i actually how i went on a podcast recently and i like will call her daddy i know massive fan which was i loved it i love her she's amazing alex is the coolest girl ever incredible you guys should have her on she'd be funny to joke with alex honestly if you're listening i've really ever watched the one of her and hayley bieber and it was quite like negative and depressing honestly i was actually shocked about that it's not the normal vibe this is a thing it's not the normal vibe she was so nice to me she was like i didn't think she was mean to hayley i think you just don't know it was mean i just felt like it was a bit of a negative so i feel like you don't know her like you know her i just think i'm a big hayley fan and i felt like hayley was uncomfortable and i

just thought that all the podcasts no i think they're very different to that no I love her I love yeah for my podcast I felt with her she was very kind to me and she really honestly wanted to know my story because I think as well the way that the press has pictured me is very negative um and like in the past year few years yeah past year year and a half since I quit modeling I think they kind of like grilled me and what happened with that so I feel like especially like when I went to rehab they really grilled me on that and sort of like turned stuff that I'd said yeah like a joke kind of into like this like whole tragic story of my downfall and things like that which by the way does not help when you are in a very vulnerable like miserable position like i was really unhappy and i felt like i just everyone was shitting on me

you know what i mean like everyone in the presence with all mental health awareness and all this yeah when they actually see mental health like going badly they're not just like they were just horrible to me yeah but i did only fans and i actually don't regret my decision i really love it and i love what i do now and i'm so happy do you still do you're still doing it so i'm still doing it i'm actually i can say this now because it's out i'm doing the web summit in lisbon with the ceo of only fans me and her speaking on a panel together oh my god wow yeah so i'm really excited about that yes i'm doing a q a on one day and then i'm doing a panel talk with her on another day um just to describe and sort of talk to people and try and you know connect

can you tell us a little bit about it because i don't i the only sort of insight i've had into it is obviously you telling me like brief bits but also i listened to olivia atwood on call her daddy and she was sort of saying how it's like a full-time job it's not just like you know everyone jokes and they're like might just quit my day job and draw an only fans well i do get that and i think there is obviously ways you can do it like every you can do your job half-assed in any job you can you can half-ass in any job the people that really commit to it the people that make money from it so like you have to have set shoot days and things like that you have to like find people to collaborate with which is like actually a lot harder here than it is in la there's a lot more people doing really fancy in what way do you mean collaborate

with as in do it with another girl that does only fans because you do a lot with Megan Barton so I did with Megan Barton Hanson I shot with Mia Malkova who's a big porn star I love her and I shot with Sky Bree um who's another porn star Sahara right yeah yeah um so I just like. So it just, like, a lot of them are, like, people that I meet through the industry. And so why does collabing with somebody else change? Because you take, because it's like you're using your platform and another platform and coming together. And I guess men.

Fans from both sides. And then they come together and find, you know, I feel like it's when you have guests on here, it's good for them and it's good for you. You know what I mean? So it benefits both parties and it's also just fun, you know? is why i started kinky this is why i started doing in the first place i was like this is the best job in the world like i'd done modeling which like for other people people would look at and think this is like a dream job i always got told that oh my god you're

like living the dream life i was like i hate this this is not for me yeah like it was fun in certain aspects but it just was not me at all like i grew up watching the simple life like i've always been very like sexually liberal and so i don't know why this was like a shock to anyone when i started doing this i don't think it was well i think the the press the press because they didn't know me as a person and i think yeah a lot of people commenting on things like that as well like a lot of hate hate from that but they just didn't know me that i've always been like this and i remember the first time i was sort of around only fans and it was Sahara my friend and I'd become friends with her and she was shooting I just thought this looks so fun like all we would do is like they like professional shoots you have a photographer no like some of them we just shoot with our friends so we had one day when I was

living in LA um a few years ago and I was staying with Sahara and her boyfriend and her boyfriend was running this OnlyFans company at the time, like a management company. And she was shooting and we invited a few girls over and we set up different sets. So we'd set up like a bathtub set, an outside garden set. And it was all really cute. And then we had girls come over, all bring their lingerie, stripper heels, everything. And we all just like had drinks and just like smoked and had fun and just like all shot together. I had a laugh laugh like got drunk told

stories like you know we're just doing fun stuff and i we'd help each other shoot so i'd be like to her like a girl do you want me to help you and then she'd be like yeah do you mind being in with me and stuff so it was actually so fun i was like this is lit like this is how i'm just running around naked with your friends like this is insane so you get into it and can I ask like what do you have to do is it just like because all the photos I see you're sort of wearing your underwear which is kind of like what's going to be on your Instagram anyway so why would you be capitalizing a little bit more explicit on the website so is it yeah can you tell us more so if you don't yeah no I so don't mind I mean I do and I think this is like important as well like I want to say to any sort

of girls that are thinking about doing it if you are thinking about doing it be very sure that you are okay with yourself and confident in yourself and not embarrassed to speak on it I think yeah a lot of people that I hear a lot of stories about people that do it and then they other people find out that they're doing it like they don't want other people right I don't think you should do it then if you're not gonna sit there with your friends especially if you're like i had a girl say to me when if her friends does it and she didn't tell her and she found her only fans i was like why wouldn't you tell me yeah yeah don't do it if you're gonna be embarrassed about i'm sorry with yourself yeah because you're just gonna hate yourself at the end of it you're gonna be like oh my god like i've done something wrong or not

almost you know you should be proud of what you do whatever it is and like i'm so proud of it i'll talk about sex all day bitch i'll talk about only fans talk about being naked i love it i'm just so proud of it and i just i see it as a tool of empowerment i see as something that empowers women and so you have control over the ceo as well is now a woman and she's super like she's been i saw like articles on her instagram she's been speaking with like women's wear daily and stuff just talking about how she's trying to like empower women to make it an empowerment empowering platform yeah you know something yeah i agree like if it makes you feel good like everyone's good at different things you know when you guys do that do you guys ever do that

do you guys ever do that though when you go out and you get really sexy like you know you put your makeup on get your hair done and you look in the mirror and you think fuck yeah that happens to me on very rare occasions when it does it feels nice yeah you know when you're feeling yourself that's how i feel yeah when you're feeling yourself yeah it's like when you take a hot nude even if you're not putting it online you know what it's like getting a banging instagram picture oh yeah it's just like that it is yeah it's yeah you know when you're so excited to post it, you're like, the ladies are gonna love this. And so what happens with all these men message you throughout the day?

And do you have like relationships with them? Or is it just like, do you know who they are? No, so it's strictly, strictly professional relationship. And like, they do have to be reminded of that sometimes. And it is like,

you know, like. Do they ever want to call you? Wait, do you speak to them? Yes. Wait, I thought they just bought the pictures. No, no, no. No, no, no. Oh my God, my mind's blown. You have to tell me i didn't understand i thought they just bought

pictures it's a full-time job then so it's like a full-time job so you have to like obviously reply to them and things like that but if you didn't reply would they not subscribe and then you've lost money and is that how it works no like i think i think they would still buy like a lot of guys do just buy you know just to have like the videos or the picture i do a lot more videos than i do pictures now but how many times a day do you post or is it just a weekly it's just honestly whenever like especially because we were speaking to people so it's whenever like they request and you send it to them directly so what i'm imagining is it's like it's instagram you have a feed yeah and then they can like tip or if they want to see more they dm

you do you know what i mean so they can't just subscribe to you and then just see the like the what comes up on the and then when you send them the stuff like privately they pay more do they pay more how do you send them that how do they get the money oh my god there's so many questions sorry i have so many questions same this is the most fascinating thing i've ever spoken i love but i love it that people have questions i think it's so good that people are asking questions about it and trying to understand it that's why i'm really happy that I'm going to the Web Summit and being able to like speak to people. Actually in the like technology business as well. Because I think people need to take it seriously.

Like it's a real thing that's making money online right now. It's a huge thing. And it's like it's, you know, helping a lot of people as well. I think people are focusing on like the fact that it's like a new content website. But it actually has helped a lot of people. Like, you know, people that can't go to work or people have to work from home it's a career it's a career like and it you know it should be taken seriously it's also not pornography it's you know it's something on that kind of different to that i mean not that there's anything

wrong would you ever yeah like on that topic having gone into this would you ever be like okay maybe i'd want to try pornography or like you know go into different things oh i don't know it's very different obviously i've spoken to a few porn stars about it i actually when i was in la last time i met chloe cherry from euphoria she's my which one's that you know the big lips you know have you seen euphoria yeah no not really no the last series with the no i haven't seen it you haven't seen it made me feel anxious what sorry seriously yeah oh my god too many drugs and too much sex i felt i love it i felt like it was quite dark i felt like i like dark psychological stuff yeah i need light so she was i mean you guys need to know this because you guys have a pop come on you guys need to get on top of this i know she is but she's amazing and she used to be a porn star

and then she started in euphoria and now she's like doing amazing stuff with like modeling and everything but i do find i do find it interesting like how that was how she was received very differently like you guys don't really know about her but she was a full-on porn star yeah you know all these different you know sex tapes and stuff and on porn hub and stuff and then she did euphoria and she you know completely changed her vibe and she got invited to these fashion shows and suddenly everyone wanted a piece and but i find it very interesting how i used to do modeling and then when i stopped and i did only fans everyone exiled me really so can you tell us i got fired from pac sun they fired. I remember because you used to do that line with them. Yeah,

I swear on my life. And they, and they have Playboy as one of their customers as well, which I'm like, you are, you, you're happy to like vouch for a brand, which is also to do with sex,

but then not my brand, which is to do with sex. Did that upset you? It upset me definitely, like a lot of rejection from that industry. But at the same time, like I didn't want to be a part of it really anymore. So it kind of,

it wasn't like, it was just shattering for me. Like I knew I was getting myself into, I't want to be a part of it really anymore so it kind of it wasn't like happening for me you know like i knew i was getting myself into i knew there would be a lot of backlash but i just find it very interesting how there's different type like how that how chloe cherry could go and do you or like even like kim kardashian she started from a sex tape and then every yeah now look at so how is it it's just weird how it's different because i came from that and then started doing it. It's almost like they do, it's like people don't like you celebrating it. It's like if you were shameful about it

or like timid about it or embarrassed about it. Or if I was doing a fashion show and I had my boobs out, which you see a lot, you have the nipples out at fashion shows and things like that.

That's fine. But I'm not allowed to sell it online. That's different. Yeah. It's strange how it's like, because I'm empowered in it and i want to do it not because not because i'm getting told to do it by a fashion show yeah yeah is is that isn't that strange though it is there's a lot of that that goes on there and it shouldn't be

that way but it is yeah i do feel like it's true i feel like i was definitely like it's kind of lol when people are like oh that guy's on OnlyFans but if a girl does it it's like oh no I know what you mean what do you what do you guys think about it because I have a lot of girls

that come oh my god one of the most common things I could never do I'm like you don't have to well yeah I don't have to do it but no one's asking you to

yeah no one asked you to do it you don't have to I've known you like I've known you forever like for me I'm like this is the happiest you've ever been this is

I was not shocked at all i was about fucking making money on it but in a roundabout way we all kind of post that sort of shit like the bikini pictures and everything but also just what do whatever exactly so when you you know when you post a little like kind of like topless moment or something we all fucking do it there's girls i know on it that literally only do lingerie and swimwear but i think at first i was a bit embarrassed i think i was embarrassed probably because of the press and everything like that exactly i've been like i literally got the first article that was like written about me was like lottie moss hits rock bottom and i was like wow and it was written by a woman i was like oh savage i just felt shamed

and i was in la at the time so i didn't feel that bad but when i came back here i was like oh wow it really got your old agency deal with it oh yeah they fired me so they they called me and they said obviously we can't have you anymore because you know the younger the younger girls that are with us their parents would never accept this and also the fact that i was making money somewhere else other than the agency probably is way more i'm sure but you know what it is it's it is it is funny like i the way they fired me and you know what's funny after i got i got back from my lane i was still doing whatever you know got a call from them pretending like nothing had happened and i was like huh they were like no we didn't fight

you i was like uh yeah you did what yes you very much did i was shook and it was because i'd gotten so much press from it they probably got loads of offers for me and they were like oh now we need to get back but it is how the tables have turned yeah interesting but this is what I find funny and I know because I'm doing so much work with only fans now and you know I've got some like exciting stuff in the pipelines and I've signed a contract with like another late brand which I'm really excited to work with I think it's going to be funny to watch in the next five years how people the whole industry yeah because then they're gonna go yeah oh my god we always believed in you we always believed in only yo shut up yeah you guys hated it you guys yeah this is the thing i know when it becomes you know more socially accepted i think when because it is funny how like it is actually

very sexually like liberating to be honest should be people jumping on that this you know magazines and stuff you know you should be jumping on it trying to find girls that are so sexually liberated a lot of the girls i know they have you know brands and other things or podcasts and things going on and they do this on the you know as well yeah so it's all like entrepreneurial business women a lot of the women that do it and these people and it's just like no one's jumped on it yet do you know what i saw the other day which really struck me is i know a lot of girls that do only fans and work and you know do sex work and they have their instagrams deleted all the time or their posts deleted all the time crazy i'm shadow banned so you can't search me

oh yeah that happens oh you yeah shadow ban oh i am so shadow ban yeah no i like because i used to post the link to my own i didn't realize you couldn't do that that's why everyone has like link tree you know that's why everyone has link tree because you can't post the the link to my OnlyFans. I didn't realize you couldn't do that. That's why everyone has like link tree. You know, that's why everyone has link tree because you can't post the direct link to OnlyFans. So, and loads of girls are like that. But then I saw, and I literally, I love Emily Ratajkowski, but she posted her full with her boobs,

like through her sheer top, like boobs out at a fashion show, walking down the runway, boobs going everywhere. And no one says anything. Instagram leaves it up everything if i posted even the back of myself like even the back of me with no top on they're like goodbye really yeah yeah absolutely yeah because you'll put instagram my friends my friends don't post nipple and they get their instagrams deleted all the time all the time what literally my friends

have like five different instagrams because they always get deactivated by instagram oh my god but then but then how can she post that and it's fine because it's to do with fashion who's behind it as i'm like it's calling instagram out community guidelines hit me up bitch i don't get it i'm so pissed if i get one more notification you've the community guidelines i'm going to punch some of the videos. Swear to God. Do you get that when it deletes your post? No, probably not. I never had a date deleted.

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and love your podcast you really know how to help a girl out I have a dilemma please keep it on help a girl out basically I've been seeing this man

who is twice my age for a few months now lovely I'm in my 20s and have had mixed opinions on the age gap and i can't decide if 20 years is too much to take seriously i really like him we get on so well he has admitted that he loves me fuck so do i take the hit and go for it tell my family friends and settle down or is the age gap too large and it's inevitable it's not going to work damn sorry i'm gonna be honest with you. If you were 20

and you're dating a 40 year old, I would say she, what the fuck. Wait, exactly 20s. We don't know how old she is. I thought she said she's 20. No, he said, didn't she say 20 years older?

No, yeah. She's a dumb mate. I'm in my 20s. Okay, in her 20s. She means early 20s. Because she'd say late 20s and she isn't a late 20s. She means 21.

She's 22. She's young. And she's dating a's young 42 yeah i think i think you would say to me melissa i don't think that's a good idea do you know what because it could be your dad at that point you know what i mean it really could be oh i don't know i mean i think some girls are into older men and i think that's fine i think it depends on how you feel but i don't i i think you were my sister or my friend i would advise you not to yeah if it was like yeah if it was my friend or my sister i would be advising you not to but being it depends as well because if if he's like x if you know if he's got an ex-wife and he's this is like the rebound thing this is like the midlife crisis like yeah he's gotten himself a porsche he's left his wife for the dog walker like do you know what i mean like he's like the red

lamborghini or something you know he's got he's gotten like a hair transplant he's like trying to relive his youth like i think that's very different to like actually being a very honest relationship you know so i think it depends who he is you know 20 years older is quite a lot i think 10 years 15 years is age. 15 years is pretty like. If you're 40, are you going to date an 80 year old? No. Actually. Babe, no, no, no.

All right, next question. Hi girls, love the podcast. I've recently moved to London on my own and the weekly gossip from you guys makes my Wednesdays. So I've been seeing this guy for a couple months and it's been going so well. Literally couldn't revolt him. We get on better than I have ever with anyone and it seemed like we've been

on the same page. We've met each other's families and planned trips and he recently told me that he's falling for me and sees me being his girlfriend one day. But he has a huge player history and I can't get it out of my head. He's never really had a girlfriend, just loads of flings. So when he doesn't respond for a long time or he or his tone seems off i convince myself he's going to ghost me or end things i've had bad experiences in the past and i'm so torn between letting myself enjoy the relationship and fall for him versus guarding myself and preparing for the worst would love to hear your views on this did i write that i'm like hang on is that sounding very familiar yeah it's a difficult give some advice no i think i think everyone i think you need to just not panic because i just did that i honestly did

that recently when i was dating a guy in la and i started everything that he did that wasn't like the same after like a month i was like i know i know i just got too attached too quickly i started spending every day at his house just being you know when it's just too much and then anything that because I spent so much time with him he was so like love bombing me at first anything that he did wrong that was you can't say that he was love love bombing kind of like you know when they're like I really like you like yeah yeah I've felt this way before but promising you the world promising you the world truly and I was believing it obviously eating it up because i love that shirt and how old is it it's 28 eating up like your porridge eating up like my porridge thinking oh surely like you know

the guy with all the tattoos as a music producer he's gonna be a good he's gonna be a good one you know um and pre you know mummy issues too mad mummy issues and i just thought and then everything and then and then he started pulling away and i noticed immediately and i was like so i was clinging on for dear life so i was just hanging around his house i'm just at his house and he's like do you want i'm like no i've got no work today when they pull away apparently girls just go that's what they don't want so i actually heard this i actually heard this because i listened to like audibles like because i can't really i'm really bad at reading so i was listening to the order but i was saying about how when a guy pulls away from you yeah let him just let him you've got to let him and then you've got to show him what he's missing a

bit so you just got to put away who doesn't do that i i cling on for dear life i'm like a spider monkey i know it kicks into action i'm like right he's gone off you've been clingy bitch and i'll see you later and i'm pretty cool i know i'm like will right, he's gone off you, you've been clingy bitch. And I'm like, see you later. And I'm like, cool. I know I'm clingy, but I can't help it. I've got a good willpower for doing that. No, I know I'm clingy and I can't help it. I'm like, I love you. I would never do that.

You're never leaving me. I would be too embarrassed. Really? Yes. It is embarrassing. She has no shame. She doesn't fucking care. The reason that drives you to do it is because you're like, I just don't care.

I need to serve this instant. It's like an instant gratification. It's like, for me, I'm like, yeah, I feel shit now. I'd rather be with him. I'd rather text him. But I'm like, don't give in because for the long run,

he'll fall in love with you if you don't do this. Like, that's how I play the game. So I think the end of the game is, at the end of the story, if they're pulling away, let them pull away. Yeah.

Yeah, I can't speak either. But I guess I wouldn't, it doesn't sound like this guy is pulling away, but if he is, the worst thing you can do is like confront him about it. Hi girls, love the podcast. All right.

I have the most amazing boyfriend who treats me wonderfully in every way. Lovely. Good for you. Stop rubbing it in. And what's your question? we have been together two years and we met when i was 22 lovely great good you again um however sometimes i think we are not on the same page i am not closed off to having a period when we explore an open relationship as i feel

like maybe too young to settle down for good but he is the man i want to be with forever and i can't imagine spending my life without him, but I can't shake the feeling that if I don't explore this, I will be compromising and may resent the relationship down the line. Any advice would be appreciated. Please keep me anonymous. I think from like what she was saying,

I think she wants to have her own experiences and I think she should break up with him and have her own experiences. Live your life. Go crazy. Figure yourself out. Have a bit of fun. be single shag about you know all that i think so too i think you're 22 years old do that babe she's 22 years old like babe be single have fun right should we rate the wine right okay oh we're rating the wine now we're coming to the end

of the guys it was a 10 out of 10 it's's made me absolutely so hammered. I can't even explain. So, okay, what's this wine called? Night Timber. It's quite well known. It's a lovely English sparkling wine. I love it. I'm having the best time. Take the rest of that bottle home with you.

I know. Oh, my God. I don't think I can actually do that. I need to get my dread. I can do it, though. Okay, I'm going to rate that a lovely 7.5. I'm going to give it an 8. I ain't giving it a 6. It was warm. But it's a lovely 7.5 I'm going to give it an 8 I'm giving it a 6

it was warm but it's a lovely brand I love the drink when it's cold love you guys so much thank you so much thank you for watching thank you for having me on

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