Wednesdays - Ep 81: Once a cheat, always a cheat??
Episode Date: November 2, 2022Today we’re reunited over zoom for a big old juicy catch-up! We’re talking Halloween costumes, MIC in Bali and what happens if your boyfriend cheats?!Link to today's non alcoholic wine here. Love ...S&M xxx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Melissa, are you a doctor? I want to be, but I'm not. I'm not a doctor either. And we're
not psychologists. We're not. We're not experts'm not a doctor either and we're not psychologists and
we're not experts in anything in fact we just challenge all the shit so and we love giving
you guys advice but as we love giving you guys advice do not take what we're saying as gospel
if you do feel like you need to speak to somebody please seek professional help
okay guys we're drinking a delicious delicious shabby a spirit to shabby
hey guys welcome back to the podcast
wait i'm so confused she's gone straight in for the kill we're talking about the wine she's
drinking we're all over the shop we're not used to doing this remotely we're all over the shop
we're across the world from each other safe is in Portugal I'm in Bali we don't speak on FaceTime
10 times a day it's all it's all going my whole life is shot out of kilter it's just bizarre
Sophie's a stranger at this point I'm not even going to be a bridesmaid at the end of this
honestly it's so late though I wake up and it's like bling bling bling from Melissa I'm like it's
2am the time difference is just killing us I know and like we're not on the same wavelength of like what we want to talk
about so i'll be like oh my god this just happened and i'll be like out for dinner like drunk not
being able to respond then in the next morning i reply blah and it's the same thing it's like
so yeah it's like such broken conversation i can't wait to get into this but first of all
i do have to speak to you about because you know
we spoke to our listeners and we're like what should we call you what should our our posse
not our posse our listeners our listeners what should we call you guys what should we call you
guys and the topics i know you had a favorite but jamie and I thought there's tiny whinies, little wines,
winos, slappers, little grapes.
Oh, okay.
So my-
I like tiny whinies.
I like tiny whinies, but I also like little grapes, but tiny whinies is just, it's just
the best one.
Tiny whinies.
We're all tiny and we are whinies.
Wait, I just have to clarify.
When we say tiny, we don't think of tiny.
We don't use it in the right context.
Tiny refers to the size of something,
but we say tiny as a term of affection.
So like if you're so sweet, we're like,
oh, tiny little thing.
You're so small, so tiny.
That's not, like, I could say that to my dad,
who's six foot four.
But we use it in very different contexts.
Just FYI, so you're all on the same wave.
Well, you guys have come up with this name, yeah just tiny tiny minis yeah yeah yeah and also i
like it that we've got the whinies in there we've got a wednesday do you know what i mean we've got
a wine within the name i think that's very important to the cause it's got a great ring
i love it it's got a lovely ring to it so i am just currently actually having a margarita because
i'm about to head out to dinner
and I didn't want to open a whole bottle of wine and it's very sort of the vibe here really
margaritas I'm loving them sorry but I feel like Bali is right up my street why the hell am I not
there you know why it's quite far away it's quite a long way to go it's like going to Australia like
it's literally 24 hours traffic but anyway I hope I do something that you get foam off soon.
So you can experience this.
Right.
I went to Zurich on a lovely little romantic getaway.
We went to a restaurant.
It was phenomenal.
It was like, honestly, when I say it was about 15 courses, I swear to God, it was.
I was like, I can't.
Anyway, they gave us a wine pairing, but with non-alcoholic wines and the wine they got
murray murray m-u-r-i and there's loads of different flavors and whatever and it was
i'm not sure it tasted of wine but the flavor it was was phenomenal like i want it now to have
yeah i looked at the ingredients and it's super healthy I think it's more kombucha vibes but it was so so good oh my god lovely stuff stunning I'm all the way out in
Bali guys and I was in a beach club and this really lovely Australian girl goes oh my god
Wednesday's wine stop it was Wednesday's wine and I was like yeah that was so sweet
but it was just funny how she said Wednesdays, why?
Oh, no.
What did she say?
Like, wine Wednesdays.
That was it.
It was wine Wednesdays.
Oh, my God.
Wine Wednesdays.
It was just.
I love that.
It was very sweet.
Can you give us a bit of a Bali update?
Because I need to know everything.
By the way, this is me hearing everything for the first time, too, because she's MIA
on the phone. No, I'm not. I FaceTimed you today yeah for a brief brief update it's bloody hard as we just
said like the whole like communication between the uk and bali and portugal and bali is very
broken because the time difference etc um but i love it it's so fun it's so cool the first few
days it rained every day and me and reby were like we hate this why is it so rainy it it's so fun it's so cool the first few days it rained every day and me and Ruby were like
we hate this why is it so rainy like it's gonna be like the whole time the weather forecast it was
thunderstorm every single day thank god it's brightened up and it's all fine and it's a whole
new world and we've really ventured out seen some lovely places it's a very magical place the food
is incredible it's just really really really lovely really good fun and also so also just have
to clear something up which is quite funny so since we've been out here some of the cast members
have google alerts on so that if their name gets put in like a an article whatever they'll get like
a google alert right so um or if Made in Chelsea gets mentioned because people are just interested
and want to see what people are writing about the show and like oh if you guys didn't know I'm out here filming for Made
in Chelsea just just to put it out there that's pretty obvious from my Instagram but um a lot of
people seem to think because Toby what goes is I and Bali at the same time that he's coming back
he's coming on the show to rekindle romance with me wait so but what's that got to do with Google
out do you need to elaborate more because someone's name was also mentioned in the article
because it's like...
So there was an article out.
There's quite a few that have gone out
that are saying that Toby's joining the show
and that we are rekindling our romance on Maiden Chelsea,
which is so false.
He is absolutely not joining the show, guys.
I would love for us to rekindle our romance.
Do you think it's on the cards?
Yeah. do you think it's on the cards yeah
guys guys we really scooted over that but in case you haven't noticed toby watkins melissa's ex
lover is actually out in bali which is a complete coincidence and we've bumped into each other a
couple times and it's just it's been quite fun we just had to clarify that he's not coming on
the show and he's not coming on to surprise me and get back with me,
even though I wish that was true.
Oh my God, that would be lovely if he did.
Go on, Toby.
Just do what we want to do.
Try and do Chelsea.
Nah, he won't.
Try and meet in Chelsea.
Show us the love.
Take one for the team.
Do you know what I mean?
Declare your love on national TV.
It's not that hard.
Anyway, yeah. So that's just like what I mean declare your love on national tv anyway yeah so that's just like I mean we've obviously just spoken about in a very silly dramatic way but that's the sort of only drama going on in my personal life right now everyone
I'm living with my villa so fun so wholesome just having is it wholesome are you busy very wholesome
not that much like we're doing like a lot of days off drinking then we'll do like one lovely like evening of drinking out to a bar it's not like mental it's been really like
lovely the perfect combination yeah it really has and like we want to make the most of the sun the
next day and stuff like that and then we've got filming early so we're really sort of pacing
and you've also got a bloody long time there so we've only got like three and a half weeks left
it's gone so quickly well I guess that's like halfway through yeah five weeks yeah wait question so is it sunny now
sunny stunning every day it's sort of sunny and a little bit cloudy in the mornings and then towards
the end of the day it thunderstorms which is actually quite magical because you've had enough
of the sun by then you're like get me inside and it's cozy because the rain's like were you really
lovely and tanned yeah i'm really tanned i'm not sure if you can tell, and it's cosy, because the rain's like... Were you really lovely and tanned? Yeah, I am really tanned.
I'm not sure if you can tell.
I mean, it's dark in here,
and you can't really tell how tanned I am.
Oh, guys, I'm so jealous of the worst FOMO.
Why did I not do this series?
She's getting married, and she doesn't need it anymore.
But anyway, this series will be probably quite good, guys.
Tune in to E4 Chelsea.
Yeah, Melissa's got B.
Airing on, I think it's like Christmas Day or something like that.
Stop.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it might be Christmas Day.
Anyway, enough of that chat.
It's Halloween.
What is she doing for Halloween, Sophie?
It's Halloween.
So I'm,
so I flew out,
I had Pride of Britain's
and then I always,
as you guys know,
my mum's got a puppy.
So I had this flight booked.
We need to talk about Pride of Britain.
Yeah, so if I'm, sorry.
You just need to go back and talk about that.
Fine, Pride of Britain, Monday.
What do you want to hear?
Guys, Molly may listen to the podcast.
You know how we love her.
Oh my God, does she actually?
Yeah.
Well, she listens to NearlyWed,
so hopefully she listens to this.
She doesn't listen to this.
Great.
Oh my God.
We love her.
We love a wholesome blog and a wholesome person.
How,
how big's her bump?
Like a lovely size.
I don't know how big.
She looked beautiful,
so flawless.
She looks like the type of person
that's face doesn't actually look like
she's pregnant at all.
Do you know what I mean?
Like you just can't tell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was sat next to a really lovely girl
called Lucy Fallon,
who you guys might know from Coronation.
She was also pregnant and so beautiful. And I was like oh wow just brings you this lovely glow they do say
when you're having a girl oh no it's the opposite they say when you're having a boy you look really
really beautiful if you're having a girl you don't look as beautiful because based on the beauty
isn't that a lovely little well kind of not because kind of lovely but I mean Molly may
look so stunning so yeah but also we just need to touch base on your outfit Sophie because it was absolutely phenomenal
the makeup was phenomenal the hair was phenomenal so can you just talk us through your routine and
how you got the outfit and all that shenanigans okay so I actually did the out I bought the outfit
myself because I always try and get a style too late and I think all like the dresses have sort
of been given out to people so I didn't right get left with the best option it was stunning and then
thanks it's from Net-A-Porter I will is it Net-A-Porter or Net-A-Porter I say Net-A-Porter
but then Mr. Porter's definitely Mr. Porter so I don't actually know right either one I got it from
there tried it on on the day luckily it fit luckily it was all good and Gigi
stylist got me some lovely jewels from Hatton Gardens I could do all this she also got me my
heels and this really nice vintage Chloe gold bag if you saw I saw the bag I love the bag it was so
lovely really cool and then I got my hair done at Harry's by a lady called Miffy in Notting Hill and she did me like
this updo I loved it and it was really did you make up I did my own makeup sorry yeah I do my
own makeup both Melissa and I do our own makeup and the more I think about it I know everyone's
like can't do it for your wedding and look my sister's done my wedding she's incredible at
makeup I still I just don't like anyone doing my makeup I decided. And you know your own face better than anyone knows it.
Kate Middleton did her own makeup for her wedding.
If she could do it, we could all do it.
Yes, it's true.
And look, I've got a new hack that I must share with you all.
You've probably done it, but I get these individual lashes.
I get them from a company called Swede Lashes.
And I just stick one, so they're like three lashes.
It's because I hate the fake lashes on me i don't know right i do too so i stick them right at the corner like just in
the the last lashes basically three on each and that's me done and they're amazing so beautiful
i've seen sophie have it a few times in real life and i remember saying to her like why do your
eyelashes and your eyes just look so beautiful and she told me and now whenever she does it goes oh she's done the lashes again and it's so bloody
subtle you would honestly never have any you could literally wear it in the day and doesn't it like
last that you can't normally get it off like it like stays on the next day as well you're like
lovely like they've stayed on I fully like wash my face with oil cleanser and everything and all
my makeup comes off perfectly and the lashes have just stayed on perfectly I'm like washed my face with oil cleanser and everything and all my makeup comes on perfectly and the lashes just stayed on perfectly.
You're like quite nice.
Yeah, lovely.
So that was the stitching.
It was a really fun, lovely, lovely, humbling, wholesome event.
Right.
So just came back to Halloween.
What are you going to wear?
I don't think I'm going to wear anything.
Oh yeah.
You guys can't.
Cause this is when I filmed Buenos Aires with Maiden Chelsea and it was over Halloween
and we just didn't dress up.
Because it's huge out in Bali.
Halloween's like a big deal.
Oh, well, then you must.
I know.
So I think we're all just going to buy stuff last minute.
I'm thinking just shove me in a load of fake blood.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, just, I'm not going to go and buy a costume.
Flutty outfit.
Flake blood.
Get the boobs out.
Get the legs out.
Just wear a bikini with loads of fake blood.
And be like, oh, no.
I've been bitten by a shark.
Where are you going?
Stop,
I don't even think
I want to hear
because I get so much
fake legs.
You won't know
anywhere we're going.
We're going to all
these random places.
What are your plans?
So we're going to go
to this place
called Luigi's
first
for some dinner
and some drinks.
Lovely stuff.
And then we might
go to another place
which we've been told is amazing.
And then we might also go to this house party,
which...
Whose house party is it?
So it's just loads of...
Like the people that we're here with,
like know loads of people here.
So it's just like, I don't know.
We'll get the update next week, guys.
So don't you worry.
Stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
Now, should we get on to Dilemmas?
On to the Dilemmas.
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Okay, right.
Dilemma one.
I really can't wait for this.
Please keep it on.
Love you girls and the
podcast me and my partner have been together for a couple of years and i have even moved out to his
home country for a while we have a strong relationship and talk about our future etc
the other night we went to a party and he got so drunk to the point of barely speaking and kissed
and touched another girl while i crashed in the other room. He told me a day after and is
in absolute pieces about what he's done and
he wants to do anything to make it work with me.
I can see how much it's hurting him and the
thought of losing me is killing us both.
This is honestly so out of character as
we have never even had any red flags
prior to this point. I'm taking
some space but would I be a
mug to consider giving it another chance?
No, I don't think so.
God, we're so weak. i'm sorry that's a mistake that's a mistake people make
mistakes that's not a malicious you're in the next room he's hammered and he's gone oh fuck
what have i done he's told you straight away yeah you you can tell when someone's in pieces and
you're just like okay you fucked up you fucked up everyone you don't you don't have it in your gut
i can hear in your gut you're like i know that yeah yeah yeah it's very different yeah yeah don't
worry about you in the doghouse but yeah yeah make him obviously i don't see necessarily work
for it but like he obviously has to repent his sins right and also make him oh not that i think
he'd ever do this again because he sounds like the type of guy who's like he will learn his lesson yeah he's like hates the feeling of being like you know doing something bad
but make sure that he knows it's bad you know like don't just be like okay forgot it yeah good
that you're giving you're like taking the space and like making him sweat because obviously you
need to get over this yourself like the shock the shock of the situation the shock of the situation
is it doesn't really sound like it's someone who you can't really trust it's just also just a bit because obviously you need to get over this yourself, like the shock, the shock of the situation. The shock of the situation is,
it doesn't really sound like it's someone
who you can't really trust.
It's just also just a bit like gross.
You've like tainted your, yeah, it's a shock.
It's a shock.
But no, you're not a mug.
I can hear it.
I can hear it.
Was that really weak of us?
I know, I'm going to say like any future boyfriend I have
is now going to think like, just forgive.
I was just thinking that hello girls I love the pod so much I could really do with some advice wow you read that out exactly
as it was really yeah I thought I'd really get into character okay so basically this guy in my
friendship group literally liked me for three years straight and we all knew about it there's
always the friendship group I know I know I wish
I had someone in my friendship group I think I just pretend everyone fancies yeah they do
I just live in my own fancy guys I'm like when we were like filming there's like this really
beautiful cameraman like always used to just go oh he fancies me honestly if anyone doesn't like
Melissa she goes oh I must fancy me it's just because he fancies me it's also with every ex we're like they're not over us they couldn't give a fuck
we're like they just love us they love me what is wrong with us if you live in a fancy wild
it is the best way just just fake it till you make it right okay so basically this guy my
friendship group literally liked me for three years straight, and we all knew about it.
Then all of my girlfriends persuaded me to give it a go.
It's nothing to lose.
So I did, and we went out for eight months.
Wow.
It was a lovely relationship where everything went so smoothly.
Stunning.
However, I broke up with him as I could just tell he was a lot more into me than I was into him, and it just felt uneven.
I kept making up false excuses not to see him, et cetera.
Yeah, no. it just felt uneven i kept making up false excuses not to see him yeah no but basically now i'm in
such a tricky situation as he is heartbroken we've now been broken up since april and he's still
telling my girlfriends how in love he is with me and he can't move on poor little lamb he is truly
upset my friends have tried putting him in contact with the therapist as that is seriously the only
thing he talks about he is starting to push all his friends away too oh god mate come on he also insists that still occasionally talking
to me on text is what he needs and would be too sad to stop but it's so hard as i don't know
how to not upset him etc also as we were in the same friendship group i hate seeing him as it
feels like he is always trying to oh no oh no and wants to get back together and he is always
looking at me no not when you feel the eyes at the back of your hand.
I'm getting it on your behalf.
I just want him to forget me, and it's starting to really annoy me
because I don't want to go to events he'll be at.
Also, it's stopping me from talking to and having fun with other guys,
so I'm generally worried as to how he would react.
Right.
What month are we in now?
October. April, May, June, July, August, September. how he would react right well what month are we in now october april may june july august september
he needs to get a flashlight
he needs something like that i thought it only takes half the amount of time to get over something
that you were they were together for eight months and it's always been a stupid obsessed with us
since day dot oh my god yep he's been in love with you for three years. Makes sense. So he's basically in his mind
getting over a three-year deep love.
Oh God.
And the fact you've said no.
Shit.
He's just, he's just.
There's nothing you can do.
You're doing everything that you can that's right.
He's just got to ride this wave.
Eventually he will get over it.
What if he doesn't?
It's not your responsibility.
Do you know what I mean?
There's only so much you can do for another person without being too close to them then if they're in love with you like you can't
be the it's not you can't do anything now you can't there's nothing you could do you have to
just try and go go on with your life as respectfully as you can obviously don't go snogging boys right
in his face but no but you know what if you're in the same friendship group it's been like seven
months you can do what you fucking want you don't owe him anything anymore in that respect
you go through a respectful period that's fine but essentially you've got to move on with your
life and you can't constantly worry about somebody else yeah i agree i'm so sorry to him but i know
seriously he will be fine he will get over it i think maybe you need to give him some tough love
that will actually help him get over it i think he needs the tough love i think that you need to message him and be like this
has to stop now i appreciate it's been hard for you it's been hard for me too i'm fully moved on
and you need to do the same and we can't really be in contact and i think it's best that we try
and avoid being around each other as much as possible we can't speak we can't be in contact
yeah but don't you isolate yourself no don't you isolate yourself i think it's good i think by the
sounds of it your friends will want to hang out with you more than him because
he sounds like he's bumming people out but then also people do need to be there for him like
yeah he probably does need to speak to a therapist just to align his thoughts
and then understand how to like cope with the situation a bit better because it doesn't sound
like he's coping very well i think that you need to give him the tough love that's the only thing
you can do from your side that's what i would would do. I would be quite blunt and brutal.
Same.
If he continued to text me, I'd be like, I'm blocking you.
I would be like, we can't speak.
This is not good for either of us.
Yeah, this is not helping.
Yeah.
But I probably wouldn't.
Yeah.
I think you've got to listen to Melissa.
You've got to give the tough love.
Yeah.
Boy needs help.
Hi, Sophie and Melissa.
My toxic ex has moved in up the road no my previous boyfriend and i broke up
four years ago and i'm now with a lovely boy and have been for the last two years with my ex it
was very toxic relationship where he cheated on me seven times that i know of but probably more
god that's a lot of times how do you forgive someone seven times it was a very horrible period and took me a long time to start feeling like myself again i kind of know these
these kinds of relationships where you just like i've lost i was a shadow of myself and you don't
even realize it happening it's weird isn't it yeah i think drains you friends has been a bit like
that yeah i have just started in my final year of university when i was walking around campus the
other day when i bumped into him the shock was horrendous but I think I held myself together well and he told me he was
doing a master's it has now been four years into uni and I have now had three encounters with him
my housemates and I have worked out that he has actually moved in up the road from us what are
the chances what are the chances I wonder if he like knew you were there and like follow you it's almost comical just to be clear I love my boyfriend my current
boyfriend and have no lingering feelings for the ex I'm confused what I ever saw in him and now he
gives me the biggest ick I don't know why but I get very anxious knowing that he's potentially around
and really really really don't want him to infiltrate my friendship group have you got any
advice about what I should do so that I can enjoy my time and not worry about a potential run-in this is quite good your department
actually because it's happened to you happened to me too actually but it didn't happen to me
when you joined Chelsea oh right well we weren't that toxic although I do think he might cheat on
me more than I think we were so naive back in the day yeah he loves me he
never cheats honestly I really did think that I still don't know that's just me speculating
speculating um I don't really know I didn't like have such a toxic thing where I hated to walk
yeah you you go um I I think so I had the same fear because the relationship was so toxic and
he gave me the ick and i just hate i i was just like oh something about me get the ick melissa
gets the ick i get the ick real bad like it's it's a problem like it affects my day-to-day life if i
have the ick and i know i have to be around that human it affects my day-to-day god i've never i've
only had it one person in my life where I had to be around him and it was
Gone see you later
Lasted a day and I was like I'm out
If it was infiltrated into my friendship group
Then I would be like I'm gonna vomit
As in like it would just
It just makes me feel sick about myself
Looking back like that
That's a different thing I think when you have the ick
Anyone feels like they can't really be around that person
Just because it makes you feel Like a weird certain way when you have the ick, anyone feels like they can't really be around that person just because it makes you feel like a weird certain way.
Imagine if some people have the ick about us.
Impossible.
It's impossible.
It's impossible.
Can't happen.
Right, keep telling me.
So I've had the ick before where someone's,
I've been scared that I've had to run into someone
in the friendship group and that was not toxic.
But you know what?
It didn't happen.
That was fine.
So I've never had to deal with that.
But I have had it where a toxic ex has always kind of been in the friendship group and that was not toxic but you know what it didn't happen that was fine so I've never had to deal with that but I have had it where a toxic ex has always kind of been in
the friendship group and then since everyone came back from uni and integrated back into London
everyone started hanging out again like as in all my school friends basically he was always around
the beginning I had a hard time with it because I was like oh all I just remember is how much of an
arsehole you are like I don't want to be around you like I didn't care that much but I was also
like I don't want to hang out with you really like
yeah but then I just kind of got over it and I think we had a conversation he was like I'm just
fucking sorry you know I was like all right fine yeah and you always just let go because you're
never going to put yourself back in that position again when you're treated like that you're never
going to go out with him again so it's easier just to let go of all that like I guess resentment and
like weird feelings towards him it's going to be easier for your life to let go of all that like I guess resentment and like weird feelings towards
them it's going to be easier for your life to let go of it I think I so agree and I think also
you obviously had a connection or something that brought you together on some level so if you take
away the emotional side sort of like the loving side you might be left with a friendship if you
take away the fact that yes he teased on you seven times but you aren't in a relationship with him now could you potentially be friends could you
like love who he's going out with or give him like relationship advice like try and look at it from
that angle like you don't have to be attached to it in an emotional way you could look at it as in
a friendship way yeah and just see him as just someone you know who you and also you can't delete
the past the't delete the past
the past is the past and everything happens for a reason and it's sad to look at any relationship
and be like i really hate them you know i don't want to see them like we did spend time with that
person so try and look at the good in it you're not with him now he's not fucking over he's not
cheating on you so say what if he's down the road yeah wave try and let go just let go of the anger yeah
who cares if he starts hanging out with your friends no i get why you do i know but like
you've got to just let it go and you've got to be like oh who cares whatever because if you make a
bigger deal out of it it's not yeah you've got to just let that all be but i'm sure your friends
will also kind of have respect for you and be like well obviously we're not gonna make a conscious
effort to hang out with that bloke. Do you know what I mean?
You'd think.
You would think and hope, but not always the case.
Especially if they weren't friends with him before.
Like, they won't.
Do you know what I mean?
They won't just suddenly bloom new friendships.
They might do.
They might do.
You never know.
You've just got to go with it.
Go with the flow and let go of the resentment. You know what?
You can't get worked up about things you can't control.
You can't control where this boy lives. He's,'s you know he's entitled to live his own life so just you live
your life and just easy breezy lemon squeezy easy breezy just breathe and just think it's quite
funny that's what you thought of thing god quite funny he lives down the road the world works in
mysterious ways we love you tiny whinies oh yeah tiny whinies we'll We love you, tiny whinies. Oh, yeah, tiny whinies.
We'll see you next week, tiny whinies.
Bye, guys.
Thank you so much for listening.
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