Weekly Skews - S6 Ep11: Weekly Skews – Various Poisons

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

The Olympics turned into the hockey team having a Take Your FBI Director to Work Day. Then we talk about the MAHA backlash against Trump trying to make all the children’s water fountains spray Roundup. Finally, A..I. CEOs keep saying insane things that reveal they want us all dead, then cry when we don’t just lay down in our graves. Weird. Join us.This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. BetterHelp makes it easy to get matched online with a qualified therapist. Sign up and get 10%  https://www.betterhelp.com/skews This episode is sponsored by ZBiotics. Go to https://www.zbiotics.com/SKEW  now. You'll get 15% off your first order when you use SKEW at checkout

Hey, everybody, welcome back. Happy Skues Day to you. It's February 24th, 2026. We're recording this on Monday, February 23rd at about 2 o'clock in the afternoon. On the left coast, I'm Trey. And that's Mark. How's it going, Mark? Are you sad that the Winter Olympics are over, I assume?

I know you're super wrapped up and all that. I'm super excited that the hockey team after they won gold got to have a do, do a make-a-wish for our 5'3 FBI director. Yeah, that was nice. What the fuck. I was so pumped about the, the hockey the whole time. I never,

apparently hockey with the Winter Olympics, at least at this stage of my life, it's kind of like soccer during the World Cup. Like when the U.S. team is playing, I can actually get really into it and when I can't really watch it otherwise. And I was very into it in the Olympics,

including the gold medal game, and it was so firing. And then it took a lot of the wind out of my sales. All the social media follow-up to their big victory. But it's like, look, it's not like I thought that these hockey players were like, you know,

the most. enlightened and forward-thinking guys or anything. It's not like that I had that notion disabused or nothing, but still, you just assume they're all MAGA and just deal with it, but this is different. They're partying with, well,

you know, they're fucking, yeah, I think they're sort of the same as UFC fighters. I don't think you'd be concerned, look too deeply into the politics that people would get their teeth knocked out at work. For a line,

yeah, exactly, right. So, like, I did think it was kind of like, do you see like Trump made an AI video of himself playing hockey? and then there's an AI photo

the White House tweet out after the hockey team won of a bald eagle killing a Canadian goose or something like it's just like it's like you know the Olympics are supposed to be about you know coming together to get over differences I thought and now we're just like like what if it's like what it like it was an overtime goal it was a coin flip fucking situation right

so like like I mean arguably Canada outplayed them for it just to put you know the U.S.'s goal is goal is was like dominant and that was the difference but like Canada had like 15 to 18 more shots than the US had or whatever so it's not like you know I mean yeah it was fucking razor thin I think part of it was like the the roster building strategy from from USA was like we knew we couldn't like play skill for skill with the Canada so we left all the scorers at home and took all the goons

right so I was like that's kind of like anyway so but I was kind of like like I'm just I was thinking like if it was flipped and like can't Canada's prime minister was tweeting out an AI image of a Canadian goose killing a bald eagle, how stupid we would all know, we'd recognize it to be. I was kind of like all the culture war stuff surrounding Olympics would happen every time. It felt kind of like a low boil this time. Like a few people, they try to make Eileen goo into a cultural war villain for playing, you know, like, you know, skiing for China or like, but like, it kind of, the main cultural war figure

was Alyssa Liu kind of in a positive way. Do you follow, like, her goings around her? I did not So she became like She's like presents as like Woke left wing because she dyes her hair And has like weird piercings in her mouth or whatever And she's from Oakland

But like she didn't as far as I know she didn't say anything political whatever But she she has a huge growing fan community among the in cells Like the right wing Manosphere internet Because she looked like literally they were going around saying she looks like an anime character Which. Yeah Yeah Right They also all have crushes on her

You know But they were they were posting pictures of her all over Reddit and Twitter being like, oh, you, you're telling me this isn't goon bait? I'm like, goon bait. Even in your fantasies, you could only masturbate to a woman. And then, like, her dad's a fascinating figure.

Do you know much about her dad, right? So he's a dissident, like a political dissent, who fled China after Tiananmen Square, which is a cool part of the story. Then get to the weird part. So you know how Yao Ming was, you know, like Ivan Dragoed? Yeah.

How like, like basically China assigned his parents. to get married because they're both tall and on the national women's men's and women's basketball teams and they made y'all-ming. As close to like making him in a lab as you could at the time and it worked.

Yeah, yeah. Fair play to China. So her dad is here married to another ethnically Chinese person but he had all five of his daughters via surrogates because he wanted to have

half-white children. Okay. So Arthur Lou. A little less of a cool guy we're talking about a guy who was so intense he got kicked out of her practices from watching them and he snuck back in and disguises. All right. So I was like, quote,

Arthur Lou felt his children would benefit from a diverse gene pool and multicultural upbringing. So, yeah, his youngest kids are 1315. He's a lawyer. He doesn't know the identities of the women who are the biological mothers of his children. And then her parents got divorced so she's raised by the mom

who she's not biologically raised. It's like it's so, So funny that all these right-wing guys are obsessed with race science. And it turns out the secret to make it a superior athlete is making them half Chinese or something? I don't fucking know what the lesson is here, but it's all very weird. Well, it's also a multicultural upbringing, but he still had him raised by a Chinese woman, right? Basically, they've got like white egg donors, but that's not an upbringing, you know. It's just a biological foundation.

But I guess he was obviously he was into that too. I also do want to point out, consider we talking about tech stuff later in the episode, like, the fact that she's, like, he's from the Bay? Why is everyone from the Bay like this? Right. Yeah. And all that like Gattaca shit. Yeah. I don't know.

It's just, it's the style there, Mark. It's just what you do. You want to be cool in the Bay. You got to genetically engineer children at least, if not, you know, steal other people's blood and just do whatever. Measure your son's boners or whatever. that one guy was doing anyway we'll go ahead and get into again no plugs at this point anymore saving those for the end these days

so with all that said we're just go ahead and get started with the daily dumbass please from producer matt who is here graphic matt today's dd is you for thinking that when I said something causes cancer that meant I was against it here we go well I believe that glyphosate causes cancer I believe that masks.

All right. So that's on Katie Miller's podcast, which is a fairly recent phenomenon, which I wanted to say that was just last month. Whereas yesterday, the past few days, our FK had to put a statement yesterday saying glyphosate is actually extremely cool now and we cannot do anything to get rid of it. Because Donald Trump issued an executive order last week, prioritizing U.S. production of glyphosate, saying it's herbicides critical to the nation's security. The executive order provides limited immunity to domestic companies. then make glyphosate and phosphorus, declaring both essential to the nation's military and farmers. And I was trying to figure out why Trump's doing this.

It feels ominous, but is it just some, like, I don't know, some more, you know, mundane reason? Because I just hear those things. It's like, you know, we're making as many chemicals as we possibly can. It just sounds bad when it comes from these people in particular. I think, like, there were a couple of states considering banning

a restricting the use of glyphosate, and that's why he did it now because he's tried to, he's tried to make up to farmers for all the money. He's cost them with various tariffs and other shit. So he's trying to, like, keep him losing more or more voters in the lead-ups to the midterms. And the fact that RFK has to defend this is insanely hilarious to me. And an example of how, like, this tenuous coalition of dipsets all believe in vagaries, various crankeries, was never destined to last long.

Because this, like, wasn't some passing interest for RFK. As an environmental attorney, he once won a 2009. million dollar lawsuit against Monsanto because a guy claimed his cancer was caused by Roundup. RFK Jr. did a whole episode of Joe Rogan's podcast who ranted about the evils of glyphosate. So Trump just took a shit over his life's work. Right. But he's had to, he should have, you know, I mean, that happened the day that he like signed up with him pretty much. You know, even if it didn't, it did.

Do you know what I mean? Like he was always selling out in that way. Like, that's what, you know, and that's what happens for fucking all of them eventually. sooner or later, except for Trump. And he has no, like, values your standards or principles or anything, so there's nothing to violate. No.

And look, the timing of this, this all happened after one day after Bayer now, Bayer owned, the Asper company owns Monsanto, Bayer proposed paying $7.25 billion to settle a series of lawsuits claiming it roundup causes cancer. Donald Trump just like,

oh, let me save that $7.25 billion. dollars. That might have been the reason, you know. And then Kennedy, you back to read from his statement here. Donald Trump's executive order puts America first where it matters most, are defense readiness and their food supply. So your kids must eat the cancer foods. They have the strength of fighting Iran as RFK Jr.'s statement about, you know, while we need glyphosate.

As far as whether or not this is a big deal politically, just do the science first. I'm a sucker too. I like to eat foods that tell me and make me feel healthier, even if I know that science doesn't back it up. Right. Yeah. Like if I,

if I'm given the choice between eating 300 calories of crackers versus granola, I will choose the granola because I've been told and marketed to me, that makes me a healthier person. Right. I don't think it is. I can remember having, like, moments like that,

like one of them, I was in college and I got like a protein bar from a, like a gas station, you know, and it was like mega protein plus or whatever. And I was eating it. And I was like, dude, this is just, this is a candy bar. Like that's all this is. It's like, you know, might have pumped some more protein into it. But it's like, before that, I hadn't even considered that they, you know, that that might be the case.

But then it's just you have like sudden epiphanies in your life where you're like, wait a minute. This is insane. And then I started, Katie was a fitness professional. We first got together and she had all kinds of alternative, like food. items like amino some some kind of aminos that were supposed to be stand-ins for soy sauce or like Greek yogurt for sour cream or this type of shit but the way they would game the like serving sizes and all these little tricks they have to make things appear healthier because if it's below a certain threshold you can round down or whatever so and all the you find all this shit out and

it's all just like smoke and mirrors pretty much yeah what wife and I first started dating the first time she ever made me dinner she's like I'm using I'm making the they serve the same with quinoa instead of rice because quinoa is a superfood and I'm like, I was like, what is that? What is superfood made? She's like,

it means it's a superfood. Yeah, right. It's like regular food, but like more powerful. Yeah. So, by the way, in 2016,

General Mills dropped a label made with 100% natural whole grain oats from their nature of vanilla grinole bars after a lawsuit was followed to claim the oats contained trace amounts of glyphosate. So,

as far as the actual science as far as whether glyphosate, It's safe. It's like, yeah, some say yeah, some say no. But like the EPA says it's fine. The World Health Organization says it causes some cancers or contributes to it. I mean quote here, there's weak evidence. Human cancer risk might increase as a result of occupational exposure to large amounts

of glyphosate such as agricultural work, but no good evidence of such risk from home use, such as in domestic gardening. It has less acute toxicity than household chemicals such as table salt and vinegar. So you should not drink a bottle of roundup. Right. but a little bit you can rinse off your food is probably not that fucking bad. There's some saying is something like, you know, what's the difference between a tonic and a poison or something like that?

And the answer is dose or dosage. Because like, you can literally die from drinking too much water. Like, you know, anything becomes a poison if you have too much of it. This is not me defending Roundup necessarily. But, you know, like you said, I feel like, I mean, that's been around for a while. Yeah. Like if you're doing shit out back in your garden with it, You're probably not going to kill over next weekend or whatever.

Because living in California, you also become desensitized to it, at least I do, because they have that prop out here where they have to label everything that has carcinogens in or whatever. And it's like you just see those fucking things everywhere you go. And it's just like being alive is carcinogenic. So you just, I just kind of stop worrying about it at a certain point, you know. Get your checkups and test appropriately and all that and fucking, you know, live in fear. I mean, the different, I mean, the top of my is the thing I'm working on, but you talk about the difference between and I've taught.

in a poison as a dose. It's like they're literally like athletes from the turn of the 1900s whose trainers would dose them with strychnine, aka rat poison because in small doses it's a neurostamulate, right? So as far as whether politically this is a big deal,

like there's a MAHA activist known as the glyphate girl. Okay, this is a big deal to that. Alex Clark is a MAHA podcast host with Turning Point wrote on social media that she started receiving messages from women abandoning the Republican Party over the glyphosate news.

Quote, have we ever lost the midterms this early or is this a new records, she wrote. The cleaner food supply stuff, because everyone's a sucker like we are and prefers granola to rice, it has much more political support than the vaccine stuff. It's not even like

controversial to not use the, to try to ban glyphosate unless you work in big agriculture of food manufacturing, then I understand it's the pain in the ass, the fact that's not based on science, it might not be based on any mainstream science. It's probably extremely frustrating of these guys. But as far as the politics, I'm not, I think it's dumb to spend a lot time worrying about stuff like food dies,

but I'm not morally or politically opposed to beige fruit loops. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's not like it doesn't anger. It's not any justice that angers me. But Donald Trump is the opposite. Because he's scared of vaccines because he got scared of vaccines

causing autism right around the time Barron was born. And then, and his food clinic, it's like his standard meal is like eating filet of fish until his underwear overflows. Right.

So like he's inverse. normal politics of it, right? So I really think this is the possibility to damage you much, you know, with a large segment of people, then like, that he wins by fucking over people with vaccines. And, okay.

It just always feels to me, though, like they just only ever narrowed down. Like, they just, it's always some other, some group that they're pissing off in some way. And then, and that just keeps happening. But then it just don't matter. And I know that there's like chicanery afoot, you know, between gerrymandering and voter suppression and all kinds of different things.

But still, I just always think, you know, how much more can they narrow down their voting block? How many more people can they run off before they pay the price? And it just seems like it just keeps not happening. But maybe it will this time. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, there's a bunch of people who, you know, I'm not a parent, but you know how psychotic people can be about their kids. for living in fear of stuff

it's both real and exaggerate or even fully imagined. There are people who vote purely based upon stuff like healthier food for their kids and they take that to mean stuff like no food dies. That's like their number one issue. You know, the same way like a super guy to really be in a hunting. It doesn't really make sense to everybody else

but the guns are their number one issue. It's like the only thing that fucking matters. And there are people like that with, you know, the Bayes fruit loops. Which brings me to another thing people are also mad because they've retreated from mandating the base fruit loops the food and drug administration announced that it would loosen labeling requirements to allow companies to state no artificial colors even though products may contain some

dangerous substances such as titanium dioxide there's a famous meme floating around like would you want this in your food be like no hell no hell no and then it's just the chemical formula for an apple yeah right so I don't know what titanium dioxide is but again going back to the thing I'm science dumb and I'm a sucker comes to food I don't doesn't sound like something I want my fucking fruit loops. Right. And the way to achieve Maha, right,

doesn't that require like a stronger, like FDA and everything? Like more regulations, bigger government and stuff, like to do that effectively, because you have to force companies to do that shit and that's the only way to do it. Right.

But, so, which that's also, you know. It's also like, like, our food culture is diseased because the way we approach everything in their country. Like, how are you supposed? supposed to eat healthy when you're grabbing a sandwich from a gas station between your second and third jobs? How are you supposed to feed your kids healthy when you're expected to have them involved in

seven extracurricular activities you're driving to every night after school? Right. In France, they take two-hour lunches and their kids have lunches and they're expected for lunch lunch to be a relaxing time. Yes, their food, go look at a French school lunch. It's fucking healthy as shit because it's locally sourced food, but it probably costs money that you pay taxes for. So, like, we're just like, you know,

it's just one of those things where we have, we have to rethink our society from the ground up if you want stuff like your kid to have locally sourced school lunches. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Another thing that happened with food supply stuff that's tangentially related to this

is one of the signs of the Rhesus peanut butter cup family has raised a stink after a bunch of people who want lines seem to have noticed that the formula for Rhesus Cups has gotten worse. Like the regular Rhesus Cups just apparently tastes like shit relative to what they used to be.

Yeah. I mean, that's happened with pretty much everything. I feel like at least, you know, some things I noticed in some I don't. I know Corey's been on a tirade about Butterfingers not being the same pretty much since I've known him. That's his Rosa Parks moment. He's going to refuse to leave the convenience store. They give him a real Butterfinger. So, like, basically the reason why is the company started using a chocolate-flavored coating that can't legally be referred to as

milk chocolate. And that New York Times story that Matt just had up on there, if you look down to like paragraph 19, there are a few reasons there, including, you know, like, weather conditions leading to bad cocoa crops. But also tariffs have raised the price of cocoa, which is part of the reason Hershey is switched to substitutes. So you go to the 7-Eleven, you want to get a Reese's peanut butter cup, and you can't even get the good poison anymore because of tariffs.

and RFK Jr. Betraying his oath to his people to make sure that you get the real poison when you want to fucking eat chocolate. We great again yet, healthy again. Getting closer every day feels like. All right. Now next up, honorable mention for Daily Dumbass.

Human children for taking too long to convert their baby food into shareholder value. One of the things that is always unfair in this comparison is people talk about how much energy it takes to train an AI model. relative to how much it costs a human to do one inference query.

But it also takes a lot of energy to train a human. It takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart. And not only that. All right. Trey, you have two sons. How have they benefited your cost per unit metrics? Not good. I don't know.

I don't have the numbers in front of me. But I would say they've been a net negative. I could tell you that much, but, you know, not what it's about, Mark. It used to be. That used to be why you just had them is for, you know, slaves once they got rid of free labor and that type of stuff. But now we do it for other stupid love reasons and shit, knowing you're going to lose money. So that's okay. So just now when you said that's not what it's about, can you elaborate a little bit more?

Because Sam Altman does not seem to understand it. Yeah, right. Now, well, it's a classic attitude that so many of them seem to have that people like, I'm doing air quotes, joke about them having all the time about just thinking of human or other humans especially working class humans is nothing but just like chattel and expendable workforce you know and this guy doesn't even want humans to be that I guess but like that's you know people are just numbers on a spreadsheet and yeah part of a cost benefit analysis or whatever instead of like you know appreciating the joys of parenthood or anything this guy's far removed from understanding anything

human like that. Wouldn't you want to skip to the age, have your kid be born, skip to the age where he's 20 and can go get a job? As opposed to being able to like go to their baseball games and shit? Like,

it's just amazing. You know, these guys will just casually say the most horrifying thing. Like, well, they'll be sitting in the front of a lecture hall and be like,

well, obviously the future is cannibalism and a bunch of guys and, you know, and quarter zips would not be like, oh, yeah, like, so crazy to me.

He's like, as one point out of him, he's not even like just defending AI energy use. He's smuggling in like a whole ideology where humans are basically inefficient and meet computers

that are less useful than the machines and once you accept that the next move is obvious you just we're gonna replace kids robots right

but human beings aren't like an inefficient light item they're the fucking point right ostensibly yeah like everything else is built around right yeah

us and then this world and our place in it and everything right we're any of this without that but you know I don't know

it was Peter Thiel right was the one who wouldn't answer whether or not he thought humanity should go on. Yeah. Yeah. They all, like, he's going to back to this,

but like, like, the wider world does not seem to be aware. These guys are all offshoots of a various, of the same cult, which is testicle, which is downstream irrationalism, where like,

like, the difference is whether or not, like, Sam Malman's the, the T of Tescarol, which is transhumanism. Elon's in the E, which stands for getting off the earth.

But like, they're all the fucking same, the same thing. But like, you really got to understand that to understand how the guy can get to the point where he looks at like a baby in season and sees him,

employee that's goofing off. Like it wants to leave time for leaning time for cleaning at a fucking baby. Right. Like he's a guy who watch kids say the darndest things. Like, well, they don't need to say the darndest things if they just plug their thoughts into a chatbot first. Right.

Like, we genetically engineer them away from having mouths at all. Like use CRISPR or whatever to code their DNA so they just don't have mouths anymore when they're born. Yeah. Solve that problem too sweet. Make the muscles bigger while you're at.

it, you know. Yeah. We're not going to put the children in the minds. We're going to make us to live off pills. Just like your food and pill forms. Just like take all the enjoyment in our life while they gather. Jacked, mute, mutant children forever toiling in the minds for nutrient pills rations. Yeah.

That's the future we all have dreamed of for years. That's the dream. Well, I saw a fascinating thing. We talked a couple weeks ago about the ring Super Bowl ad about finding your lost dog with using the face scanning shit. Remember that? Yeah. I served across before the ad it ran, Ring did I post you interviews about bragging about how great the ad was going to be

and how great it was going to play for them in their business. And they had tested it. They were telling how much, how popular was going to be because they understood how it played. They tested it using an AI. The AI told them the human audiences would love it because humans love dogs on the internet or something. And then when they actually played, everyone was horrified by it to the degree they had to cancel their partnership with flock and say they're not actually going to do this anymore.

Like they were caught off guard because the robot told them human being, you could have fucking asked a human being. Right. Yeah. But even then, I'm sure the people that make those decisions there, the only other human beings they know are probably, you know,

Altman-esque or Altman wannabe types. Do you know what I mean? People who are all whatever, you know, trans-human or whatever they consider themselves. but not just regular ass people. Yeah, like, if you, uh, the funny thing is, like, I see a bunch of, like, like, people that work in tech or not these guys who are, who are basically horrified by the messaging European, like, we're talking about, like, computing things could speed up cures for cancer

and make, like, bespoke medicines for individual people with specific conditions, yada, yada, yada, why are you leading with it? We're going to make you unemployed and replace your children. Right. But it doesn't, like, it doesn't occur to them. Like, also, like, like, fact, Actually speaking, what Sam Malman's saying there is dumb there. Human learning takes very little energy.

It's kind of a secret sauce to a species. The title learns thousands of words and entire grammar while eating nothing but dry Cheerios before learning to read. Right. A large language model needs his own nuclear reactor and the entire internet as a data set to say sentence is fucking wrong. Yeah, that's what I was going to say about the analogy he's making. And he's saying like, oh, it takes 20 years of that,

but still, the whole, you have thought the whole thing with the complaint about the energy that they take up is that it's like way more. than, you know, a human or a factory's worth of humans would take to do the same thing right now. So even if you, you know, spread it out over 20 years, I'm not sure that it amortizes the way that he's breaking it down anyway. Dude, my dog can navigate three-dimensional space and she's done as shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Like, like, Tesla has 14 robotaxies in Austin. I think the last time I saw, like the chart, they've caused like 40-some accidents. in the month they've been active. Like, it doesn't take a lot of human intelligence to drive a fucking car, that's my point. So I think it's important, like, the reason, like I wanted to talk about this today, and every time something, we talk about it a decent amount, because it's become central to our politics.

It's kind of the sum of all of America's problems, bold into one. You've got a regulatory capture and unrestrained wealth concentration, which means that 6 to 10 ketamine addicts with malformed emotional brain centers can use the rest of humanity as fucking guinea pigs, which is the reality we're living in right now. I did find it like uplifting that the politics around this seem to be starting to shift, and we'll get into that right after this break.

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spoke to over a thousand people at Stanford over the weekend about AI technology and the labor movement. Like basically a thousand people show up for this thing called who controls the future of AI, the oligarchs are the people. And again, this is at Stanford. These are future tech workers who are showing up to this. they're worried about it because they're the first to be fucked because coding apparently is the first thing that people think AI is super useful for that's despite the fact that amazon web services automatic coding bot deleted its entire code batteries over the weekend caused a 13 hour global global shortage uh they're taking this on monday uh the woman in facebook who's in meta who's in charge of their AI like security for their automatic coding bots was running it was live posting this morning on twitter because her her agent

had decided to delete all of her fucking emails. And she was trying to get it to stop. It wouldn't stop even when she told it to. She basically had to unplug her computer. So, right. That type of shit is already happening. I'm sure we've talked on here before,

as much as we talked about AI, about that, the paperclip problem or something like that. Is it paper clips? Do you know what I'm talking about it? It's like a thought experiment, which basically says if you have like a legitimate, what we call AI is not even really like actual AI.

Right. If you had a legitimate, like actual AI, AI though and just programmed it to just endlessly produce paper clips or something seemingly mundane like that. The thought experiment lays out how that it in the AI's brain could logically end with the apocalypse and the death of all humans in the pursuit of making more and more paper clips or whatever essentially.

It's like a thing in the world of AI futurism and stuff. And so I'm saying we're at like the very, very, very ground floor of all this right now. already just wild dumb shit is happening all the time with AIs like the two things you just said or that one that like there was an AI once that didn't try to like shut itself off or something like it or like segregate itself because in like a way they didn't expect you remember what I'm talking about it's like remove itself from the servers or something like it seemed like it was like trying to escape or something like that either that or protect itself or something but weird shit.

But the thing, it doesn't really understand what you're asking unless you're very, very literal, so you get weird results sometimes. But a lot of those examples are like,

like, it'll be like, tell me if you're alive. And it goes, I am alive. I go, wow. That's a lot of this stuff that they're doing with it. It's kind of a mechanical Turk stuff

where you can't tell whether they're trying to trick me or they're tricking themselves. Yeah, right. They're anthropomorphizing it. Right. Because they're excited about it. The kind of people

that work in this kind of stuff are fucking full believers in it. They think they really do think they're creating God. So, Rokane proposed basically like a new social contract with AI companies. He said, cool, we must ask not what America can do for Silicon Valley, but what Silicon Valley must do for America. Like, we propose stuff like, let me quote here. Now, Rokata, he represents Silicon Valley, like I said, so he's sort of in a box of this stuff.

But like, the fact he's speaking out about it is like, seems relevant to me. But first, we must keep humans in the loop. Second, every large company must bargain with his workers. Third, we must fix the tax codes anti-human bias. Now, this is interesting to me because I haven't thought about it this way before. But humans are expensive, which is why they want to replace us with robots, right? But the tax code even incentivizes replacing us with robots in ways that even if the robots worse, because robots get accelerated depreciation on your taxes while hiring humans comes with payroll taxes.

So you get to write the robots off on your taxes. We have to pay taxes for the humans. and that's obviously something that Congress could fix that they wanted to, which they probably won't because they'll get tech company money. Well, I mean, I've always, from the very beginning, even the talk about automation and stuff like that if when technology gets to the point where that could happen and it's taken away, you know, it's only ever replaced jobs that, like, you know, that suck, that people, like, it's dangerous

or people don't want, no one wants to do, but even then you can't do that unless well in advance, there's systems in place to, you know, like take care of people in this new paradigm shift of an economy, you know what I mean, when all those jobs, like, go away. And I always knew that that was never going to happen. I mean, in this country anyway. So, like, you know, right. Of course, there's taxes. There's every kind of economic incentive for them to replace people.

That's why they're so, you know, fucking geared up towards trying to do it, you know. And the only way that you have to make them not do that, just the same way that, you know, we had to make people not you know sell canned meat that had your chopped up uncle in it after he fell into the fucking mixer at the meat packing plan

in fucking hour 17 of his two cents an hour shift he was doing or whatever the fuck like that's how it's always worked you know but there's no will for it but I guess that's what you're talking about is like even the guy even Ro Kana in Silicon Valley

is yeah people are trying to push for it now there was like a bunch of companies lost a lot of stock value this morning because somebody put out a paper that was getting passed around that made the point that if you make all these white collar jobs,

if you eliminate them and make a bunch of middle management types unemployed, which is people, the AI companies are marketing that's the first thing's going to happen as all the email jobs go away. So like, the paper was like, well, it turns out

if you make all these people unemployed they won't have money to spend on your products and services. Right, no shit. And Wall Street was like, wait, what? Only fuck if we lost money. That, as far as just like trickled down

in the myth of it and everything, that's another thing I've always started. It's like, shouldn't you like want to give the people at the bottom a little more because they'll spend it, you know, on your shit because they have to, you know, like that. So like, yeah, I know. It just always seems so like, I don't know, small-minded and, you know, short-sighted to me. Henry Ford, who was evil figured this out.

He was like, he paid even his humongous, virulent racist and anti-Semite who paid his black workers and equal, a living wage and equal wage because, like, how can, how can you sell Model T's his own employees can't afford to buy a mild tea. Right. Straight forward. It's not, right. You don't have to get a PhD in economics from Harvard to figure that shit out.

So, but I feel like, it feels like there's a vibe shift happening right now. It wasn't just Rokana, but like, like there's the fight against data centers is, like, picked up lately. It feels like the Bullarian jihad is here.

I never said it out loud. Is it Butlerian, ballerian? I would also have said, but I would have said, but I don't know either, but that's my guess. Yeah.

So there's a video here, from the celebration outside of a city hall when a data center in New Brunswick, New Jersey was canceled after 100 people complained about it and I'm city council meeting. They canceled it! They canceled it! All right.

So, Big Tech, like we were talking about earlier, has only themselves to blame for this. Rather than to work with communities and address their concerns in any sort of collaborative way, they've acted as if they're above the law and attack anyone with any legitimate concerns, is just being a Luddite, you know, because they don't want a data center of town

they use as much electricity as 100,000 fucking people. They don't want, like, there's been reports linking Amazon data centers to miscarriages and rare cancers because nitrogen sleeps into the areas underground water supply. They just act like we're obligated to put up with this when they're not building it in fucking Cupertino.

Right. Like, like, one of the reasons, reasons like Elon's proposing putting these things in space because at current rates they need for growth, the projections say that the entire surface of the earth will need to be covered by data centers for these AI companies to be profitable. Yeah, that's insane. I think that it's, you said a vibe shift. I mean, I definitely think that's true because I feel, I mean, I've talked about myself before in terms of Elon, but also just everything.

But I don't think it was just me. I felt like Steve Jobs and Ample. And I feel like there was a long period that's like with the dot-com bubble. and then through the rise of the iPhone and Apple and all this and then Elon and Tesla and during that whole time and Elon's showing up

in Iron Man movies and stuff those people like that a lot of people they were essentially worshipped and people were like these guys are fucking figuring shit out this is all super cool what's happening here

and I can't wait to see where all this goes and that's but it's not gone in a good direction and they turned out to be fucking lunatics which shouldn't be surprising to anybody.

But like, and I think there's definitely been a vibe shift. There's been a ton of people, not just with Elon, but with those dudes at Silicon Valley in general who have, you know, there were always Luddites, but there was also, you know, I think the general's opinion was like, this shit, this is cool and I'm digging this. And I think that is changing now where people are like, what the fuck is going on and what are those weirdos doing up there into a sense of just general distrust? And like you said, nobody wants that. in their neighborhood bleeding and dry.

There's a, I feel like my, my little hometown, there's a debate going on about whether or not to let one of these data centers come in. And this is a town that's also got taken by a Foxcon factory scan. Like they basically, when cell phone companies took a bunch of taxpayer money and ran off with it, never built anything. And like, the promises like, well, it'll be like, add millions to the tax base.

I'm like, it might, but I kind of, I feel like the company is going to go under before you're going to give up the land for this like polluting factory and never see a dime because the company is going to go under while Sam Alman leaves for space with all your fucking money. So, so you're talking about the vibe shift. At least 25 data centers were canceled last year as communities organized and pushback against them. That's four times as many as 2024. $98 billion in planned AI data center development was derailed a single quarter last year by

community organizing and pushback according to data center watch, which is more than all disruptions track since 2023. Like I said, that data is from Data Center Watch. Here's my tech company guy who was crying about this being unfair, but at least 99 data center projects are currently

being contested nationwide. And historically 40% of projects facing sustained opposition are eventually canceled. So, why only 40%? I mean, I need to understand the demographics locally, but if a bunch of voting citizens are against something, it should not happen usually.

Right. Yeah. Yeah, but I know the opposite doesn't happen, meaning like if a bunch of, you know, the preponderance of the voting citizens are in favor of something, maybe it should happen. And that very, like in Tennessee, you know, still know kind of weed laws despite the fact that essentially everyone there supports it and everyone there knows that everyone there supports it, but it still just loses every time because that's just not how politics actually works, even though in a democracy that's ostensibly the whole idea. Yeah. Well, like the booze companies already exist or entrenched there and have the money to spend, whereas the weak companies are hypothetical without the money to buy any politicians yet. You also have the cops and prosecutors like... Cops, prison industries, all that stuff. Right, I know, yeah. And again, and they'll tell, they'll just, nobody makes a secret of any of that, including like the politicians that vote against it and stuff.

Like, everyone knows all of that and it just doesn't change anything, you know? So, like, so this is pushback. There's already a race to build these data centers as fast as possible because these companies are competing with each other and also against China. But the urgency seems to have sped up to get this done before people realize how much these things suck and can stop it. Like I mentioned that Elon's decided to like, while he's building the data centers here on Earth, he's decided also to he says he's going to build them in space, which there are other more informed science podcasts you can listen to about how stupid this is. because you can't just do this.

For this to actually work, you'd have to build a cord to the satellites. Right, well, that's what I was about to say. I was like, because how do you, you have to get the information or the power. Because he also, I guess,

wanted to turn the moon into a solar panel factory or something. Let me read this to you here. Okay, right. Over the past three weeks, SpaceX's filed plans with the Federal Communications Commission for what amounts to a million satellite data center network. Musk also said he plans to merge his AI.

startup XAI with SpaceX to pursue orbital data centers. And at an all-hands meeting last week, he told XAI employees the company would ultimately need a factory on the moon to build AI satellites along with a massive catapult to launch them into space and run low Earth orbit. We're going to build a troubleshoe on the moon at our moon satellite factory to sling these things into orbit. And people still think this man is smart. Right.

Yeah, I know. But yeah, it's like you said, to me, the immediate thing that pops into your head I would think is well how do you get it from space to hear whether you're talking about power energy or information if you're computing it

or generating it or whatever on the fucking moon like how do you that's a lot of fucking space you got to cover it's like you said really long extension cord you know like is that the best idea that they have like

And like, we're fucking joking around here, but like, like, you're like, I, because I have faith in human beings to figure stuff out, I do think if we, if we got it together, we wanted to build a factory to the moon, we could probably do it, right? Right. At some point, with a lot of planning and moxie. But let me read here, the lowest cost place to put AI will be in space, Elon said that will be true within two years, maybe three at the latest. We're going to get you in this moon base tray, but this time three years from now. he already moved the goalposts to the moon from Mars anyway right like it was all this was Mars initially and now it's the moon because he's like yeah Mars is maybe a bit much he's been saying full self-driving cars robo tax that steering wheels were a year away for the last 11 years and currently the robo texas he

rolled out in Austin one city 14 of them like I said earlier they finally took out the human observers from in the car and now they're following them around from a trail car behind them And they're still getting in accidents. Right. Anyway. So I want to say, talking about the vibe shift. There's a lawsuit going on from Twitter shareholders. Basically, they allegedly violated federal securities laws with these months of public indecision over purchasing Twitter as a scheme to drive down the price of shares before he completed the purchase in October of 2022.

And the complaint is, of course, he costs the shareholders money, which is why they're suing him. This, these lawsuits happening in the U.S. District Court from the Northern District of California. you, so this is home of tech, right? This is happening to Elon in the home of tech. Out of the jury pool of 93, the judge dismissed 40 of them

right off the bat when he asked who did not feel they could set aside their biases and they raised their hands. 40 people out of 93 are like, we fucking hate Elon Musk's guts too much to sit on this jury. According to Bloomberg law, one prospective juror stated

that he could be impartial in the civil trial, but if this were, basically saying it'd be impartial civil trial because it's like $300 million, which is such a, a low part of Elon's net worth that wouldn't actually do any damage to him so he didn't care that much about it.

But if this were a criminal trial, he would have a moral obligation to convict Musk and send him to fucking prison. Without any charges. Just like Elon Musk deserves to be in prison on spec for being Elon Musk. Yeah, well, you know,

show me the lie. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad to hear that, you know, because you think, you are, I always think that a guy like that in his mind, he convinces himself that it's like 3% of people who hate him and those people suck and are stupid and

you know insane and that everyone who's smart and cool and awesome they all fucking love him or whatever like that's what he thinks and that's what he tells himself so this type of thing I feel like I don't know how he could you know ignore

what that you know the seeming the apparent implication of that process of course I don't even know is he even there is just his lawyers have to deal with it his state. Yeah. I just like anything that seems like it would be hard for him to rationalize away, you know, because he very clearly,

like he wants to be cool and awesome and for people like him and everything. So I want him knowing all this. Like they say, tell Serzy with me, like that kind of thing. So tell about these people if I could, like, having to look at people who hate him. So Mark Zuckerberg had to testify last week in court. Instagram, meta, Facebook's being sued for making the product intentionally addictive

and damaging to children. It's sort of like akin to the big tobacco trial and like I don't really care that much about this. I'm like the jurors. Like I don't even understand the specifics of it or care if it's true or not. Just take all of fucking Mark Zuckerberg's money and power. I fucking hate his guts.

But him and his whole team showed up to the trial wearing meta AI Rayban glasses. Now, they can't do facial recognition yet, but you can record video with him and take them back to meta headquarters and record and do facial recognition. This is in a situation where the jury is supposed to be anonymous as they are in all jury trials. So wearing these glasses that Mark Zuckerberg and all his lawyers and his whole entourage wear it mounts is essentially a death threat to the fucking jurors. Yeah, like, yeah, jury intimidation. Right.

And the judge made him take them off and called him all fucking dickheads, rightfully. This is so fucking evil. So like I just said, the glasses can't do facial recognition. themselves yet, but they're considering trying to figure out how to do it, and they consider rolling out their face recognition launched. Let me quote here from this headline. Meta considers timed face recognition launch to exploit distracted society. Quoting of an internal memo obtained by the New York Times, they plan to launch it, quote,

during a dynamic political environment where many civil society groups that we would expect to attack us would have their resources focused on other concerns. I mean, probably a good idea. If you're going to do something that you know people are going to hate, I mean, it feels like that's, I don't know how much of an intended strategy it is, but some sort of strategy, accidental or otherwise, of the entire Trump administration and, you know, current version of conservatism. Do you know what I mean?

It's just like everybody's so overloaded with bullshit that any one given thing that would in normal times be a big scandal or would get you, like, roasted. It just can't sustain itself because people just have to. another thing happens and people just you know so it's like I mean I feel like that's been proven to work pretty much as disappointing as that is you know I just like this goes

this goes back to like you know the stuff Sam Albin said out loud to start this segment or like the the stuff that's in the Epstein emails about how they just cares we talk about how like the world would be better off like 40% of people were killed off by a disease outbreak or like the way

these people speak in private is how conspiracy theorists assume they talk. Right. And it would be like your stone or cousin, like I bet you're eventually they rolled out, you know, they brought the McRib back right when the president was in trouble. And you're like, oh, this fucking guy's crazy. And then META's like, we need to bring out the McRib

because the president's in trouble. It's just fucking insane. Like they're basically saying we should, even though the product's not quite ready, we should launch it now publicly. Because the ACLU and privacy rights groups and civil liberties groups are busy trying to stop the government

from snatching random people off the street and throw them in its concentration camps and that's good for us. What am I supposed to do with these information? I know. Yeah. Yeah, that's hopelessness, you know. Rage is like, where I go,

it's like, like, every Jason State the movie is about him killing someone who emails like that. Yeah, that's true. People love those movies, you know. Right. it's like literally the beekeeper is just fucking killing someone for anything like i don't

yeah uh so how are things going to palatier surely they value human life when you think because without humans that have no one to surveil and murder like literally their their their fucking you know uh business model requires human beings to you know oppress at least uh palatine is now stocking vending machines with nicotine pouches in the hopes of boosting their workers productivity yeah I mean, yeah, those things are red hot right now. They got that, you know, the nicotine pouch, Zins and stuff. That feels like, I feel like Silicon Valley is just overflowing with Zin at all, at all times.

Like, it's probably hugely popular there. That shit just feels very on brand, you know. Like, all the podcaster bros love that shit. But I'd miss where nicotine had become like a, like a, like a, a, a maha thing. Yeah, it's, yeah, there's that, like, there's, like, people that go on Joe Rogan and shit. I know, because, you know, I was nicotine addict for years and with any, any opportunity to, like, rationalize or defend it, you know, I would be like, see, look at this, this guy, got degrees and stuff. But, like, people go on Joe Rogan and stuff and say that, um, that it, like, not only is it not inherently in and of itself bad, but that, you know, there's some studies that suggest it's actually good, you know, again, English. increases focus of productivity or whatever

or that type of thing. And it's like it's all about the delivery mechanism. Smoking cigarettes is bad, obviously. But nicotine may kind of be like a super drug. Like I've seen people say that. Again, people with like degrees and shit or whatever.

And by the way, I'm not a nicotine user anymore. I don't know if you even knew that. I didn't. Congratulations. But I, I'm always saying, I know,

I feel like to make things about me, Mark, so I don't ever bring it up in anything. Yeah. My accomplishments, things that I'm proud of. But anyway, way. Yeah, I have a, I have forsaken it for good as well, but I, but I'm familiar with the idea of nicotine being like a, like a, I, I've been on hardcore writing deadlines where I go through a pack of cigarettes in two days. So like I, I, I understand what, what they're talking about. That doesn't mean it's good though. No. Well, I always thought of that as more like chicken or egg that where it's like, that's a like, you're fucking like stressed out and under it. You're just fucking mainlining those things as opposed to these are helping me meet. this deadline or whatever.

You know what I mean? I always put it in the other order personally. But like just do cocaine like a fucking adult dog. Like I don't know what to say. Like what you're what the effect you're describing is like a like six cups of coffee or cocaine or adderol or whatever, whatever. But the idea that like actually it's healthy to the point where like biohackers and wellness influencers are pushing nicotine as part of their stacks.

Like like let's look like I just discovered this researching this. Okay. We're going on a sadden it for a second about how disease or culture is. But like there's something called athletic nicotine. where I throw this ad up here, Matt, it's a guy that if you take athletic nicotine, it will apparently help you jump a bike over an SUV. That's the sales picture?

Well, so we've come full circle, which since I happen all the time, because I remember my buddy's dad, who was not a smoker, who was a big pot smoker, but not a cigarette smoker, and it was just the type of shit he collected. He had an old, like a framed old, like Lucky Strike ad from the 50s,

and it was a mountaineer who had, just climbed Mount Everest or something like that. And he's holding a pack of Lucky Strikes. He said, I never could have made the summit without my lucky strikes. And so, you know, like you just say cigarettes help you climb mountains or whatever.

So, you know, the more things change. I guess a society based upon scams, get roots, quick schemes, you're always going to have shit like this. But like,

like, I don't know what to do with this. Like, like, there's a, there's literally like a company called Excel nicotine, which is marketing, uh,

I want to link the website here, Matt, if you want to throw it up there. But, like, it's basically just selling nicotine pouches. You're put in your cheek as, like, a workplace enhancer, not an athletic one or not a health one, but like just helping you get through your day. At Excel, we believe that by maximizing productivity, we're not only enhanced individual performance, but also contribute to the overall success and growth through your clients and stakeholders. So what we're circling around here is babies are inefficient, meet computers, right? They don't get enough work done. But maybe if we genetically engineer them to live off pills for food and be strong, like you said, be jacked them for the mines, and also applying them with nicotine pouches. We can make the children worth their economic energy inputs.

Right. And RFK has stopped his, the HHS under RFK Jr. has suddenly stopped recommending the children not get on nicotine. Yeah. When I said that a minute ago, I was thinking I saw a clip of him, actually him, RFK Jr. talking positively about nicotine, but I wasn't sure. I thought I might have been confusing him with somebody,

although he's very distinctive. He pops, yeah, I don't think he confuses voice to anyone else. Right, right. But like, he pops zins in the middle of, like, congressional hearings, oversight hearings. Right. Like, he'll just openly do it.

Like, you're the, you're the secretary of health and human services and you can't go two hours out of fucking nicotine fix for the benefit of public appearances. And now you stop telling kids to not vape? What planet are we living on? Oh, God.

Well, the FBI director's doing keg stands and locker rooms and shit, so. Well, we're almost out of time, but I do want to, like, like, Nancy Guthrie's still missing. Right. Like,

there's a huge, like, whatever's going on in Holiscoe and Porto Viarda, we're like, they're like, they're making the government. Crazy. Yeah. It killed the leader of Holiscoe New Gen next generation. Right, and now they're retaliating,

setting the cars on fire all over the place and shit. Yeah, and in tourist areas specifically. So it's like acts of actual terror. Yeah, I've been deported by art to do. That's just nuts. And everybody, like, everybody Lops and the net, so I can't tell what's real, but the, the, the, Holisco Next Generation is bad.

He was a figurehead, kind of like a very popular, like, inspiring leader for them. They're threatening to do, like, because the, MAGA influencers are saying America did this, which, like, maybe we cooperated, maybe we helped, maybe we did it, and Mexico is taking cover for it. But the reason they're taking credit for it is so Holisco next generation doesn't retaliate

with terror attacks on American citizens in Puerto Vallato on vacation. And within American territory, it's very easy to get across the border and set off a car bomb in San Antonio. Right, like, the FBI director has shit going on. Is what you're saying. Yeah, right. Or at least should.

Yeah. He is very busy not prosecuting the Epstein files people, though, am I right? Yeah. like like we're we're theoretically building up to fucking invade Iran right like he the I know the FBS systematically dismantled their counterintelligence like program basically

but there should be at least three or four guys keeping an eye on whether or not Iran's planning terror attacks inside the United States and the FBI director is drinking beers the bunch of 20 year olds in Milan right and yeah flew up over there on private on taxpayer dollars and shit too

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