Weekly Skews - S6 Ep23: Weekly Skews – The SPLC Indictment: Good News, Racism Was Fake The Whole Time

Episode Date: April 29, 2026

The Correspondents Dinner assassin that wasn’t, a Washington press freakout over hearing gunshots vaguely in the distance, and whether there’s anyone left in America who hasn’t tried to kill a president. Then we get into the paper thin federal indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center and the effort to protect the real victim of racism: Donald Trump’s reputation. Also, the funny reactions of Nazis, who want to be very clear: the SPLC are dumb nerds who don’t tell them what to do.Weekly Skews is brought to you by Americans United for Separation of Church and State.If you believe religious freedom is supposed to protect everybody, not be weaponized to turn away good families, visit https://www.au.org/crooked to learn more and become a member today. This episode is sponsored by ZBiotics. Go to https://www.zbiotics.com/SKEW now. You'll get 15% off your first order when you use SKEW at checkout

What's up everybody? Welcome back. Happy Skees Day to you. It's April 28th, 2026. We're recording this on Monday, April 27th at about 1 p.m. on the West Coast. I'm Trey, and that's Mark. How are you doing there? Mark? Looking particularly feral. As you just noted, before we started. You get lined up. Do you go to a barbershop to get your beard lined up or you do it yourself? No, a barbershop. I can't shape for shit. I knew. I somehow knew you would go to a barbershop for that. I just couldn't, you know, I don't know. It just fits. So, yeah, we got at least one big thing to talk about, I think. Yeah, if you, like, we're going to talk about the Southern Poverty Law Center indictment of whatever time we have less. Well, hope is plenty because I don't, like, if you guys have watched the news over the weekend, you might have missed the fact that what happened at the White House Correspondents dinner

was basically fucking nothing. Right. Nothing happened. Like, the guy didn't even come with it, get him the same floor as the corporation. response dinner. He was like several floors away and several layers of security outside away from the president. Right. And I'm not an expert in secret service procedure. It seems stupid for me to put the entire line of succession in the same room for something as stupid as a fucking rubber chicken dinner where you watch a mentalist. But like what happened was the guy was stopped by a metal detector,

which is what the metal detector is for. And the secrets, he ran, like he ran, got ran past the metal detector with his guns. The Secret Service drew their guns to open fire. They say he got a shot off, but I don't, I thought maybe, because the Secret Service didn't get shot in his blood-proof vest, I thought maybe they shot each other in a crossfire, which, you know, I'm not impuging the honor of the Secret Service. They're supposed to be willing to shoot each other to stop by somebody from killing the president. But like, I don't even know if he got a shot off. Right. Well, here's, so here's what's happened from my perspective with the story. I was at a, like, a housewarming party out here in L.A. on Saturday. It's like,

some comedy people and stuff. And when the news broke, and everyone immediately, first thing they said was some version of like, I guess his poll numbers are dipping too low or, you know, there's something, you know, get the other ear this time,

you know, he isn't a WWE Hall of Fame. He's, you know, he knows something about showmanship and storylines and stuff, that type, basically just immediately, you know,

implying that it was fake. And it's like, again, it's comedians, everybody's just sort of hitting or whatever. But then I start, but then, like,

you know that I'd be on Reddit, it a lot, probably too much. Again, I'm a lurker. I don't post, but I'd be read. Reddit is like just fully convinced. Like, again, immediately that it is, that it did not really happen, that it's some sort of like false flag or whatever. And I just did a, uh, right before this, I did one of the Young Turks channel shows.

They'll have me online periodically. And they didn't, they did not, they went out of their way to not say that they were saying that it was fake, but they covered a lot of people saying. that it was fake, right? So there's like this big feeling out there, you know, immediately people would be like,

okay, you really think I'm going to buy that. And I just have like a lot of questions about sort of all of that. And I don't know what order you want to approach them in. My immediate question is like the guy himself, you know,

who is he, if it was faked, what is, he's like, he's a Maasad agent. They're going to like fake his death later and he'll disappear and he'll go back to,

like blowing up hospitals in Palestine and living his dream or whatever. Like, who is this guy if it's all some big conspiracy? How's that any of that supposed to work? You know, I don't believe they're competent enough to pull that off in a way where it's never proven to have been a conspiracy if it was. And, you know, just a lot of other things too. I guess I'll stop there for now and then we'll just see how it unfolds. But a lot of people think this is, you know, bullshit.

shit. Well, as always, the problem with conspiracy theories is you can't disprove them. Right. Right. So, like, you could, like, there's nothing I could say that it would make someone, but like, I would just say, and this is where like amateurs are conspiracy theorists versus like, that's why like study actual conspiracies, because then you, they will disabuse you of believing things are conspiracy theories a lot. Wouldn't you see it, like, how things work? But, like, the conspiracy theory here is basically speed running the plot lines of season six and seven of homeland into like seven minutes and doing them really stupidly, right?

So, but like, to me, like, if I was going to, if I was going to stage a false flag attack, if I was going to stage an attack, I would want an attack to happen in some former fashion. Right. Like this, again, this was loosely within hearing distance of the president. And like, like, if I was going to, like, I saw like the former CIA guy, one of the former clandestine operations, people who, like, pivoted to writing spy thrillers and stuff. And he was like, I want to sit down. with you guys and have you talked me through

how you would plan an assassination so I can point out what fucking idiots you are. Because this is not how anybody would do it. But there are people who are in charge of thinking about such things. If you paid attention to what the Secret Service did, so they ushered Trump out of the hotel and

kept him in the beast, the presidential limo for like an hour before they moved along. Because, not that they thought it was likely this was an internal assassination attempt, but if it was, the attack and the in a hotel would be a diversion to get you to put the president out, move him out of a secure location and get him on the move where he'd be more vulnerable.

So that's why you don't move, right? Right. So people aren't thinking about that. There's a guy who used to be in the Skull and Bone Society right now, we're at the CA who made his bones, like, doing handshake deals with Hezbo and the SVR, who's sitting through working these premonitations thinking about who could have gotten up to an attack or who would have made a false flag or whatever. You don't need to worry about it because, like, you're never going to know or not know,

or you can't prove it. So like what's the point in us all jerking each other off on Reddit over it? You know what I'm saying? Right. I guess I just think that because of, you know, the amount of faith that I like don't have in the people running the show here, I just feel like if it was a conspiracy meeting like a false flag, I feel like we will know that. And to me, it not ever being proven is evidence that it's not that in the first place. Like, does that make sense?

I'm saying like, I don't think they could keep it a secret. Meaning if they did do this, I think by the end of the fucking week, they'll be pretty much like reported or known or whatever. And then it's like, okay, well, you know, and that makes it a little different. But the guy, the manifesto he turned in or whatever was like, he said it, he was already in the hotel, I guess, when he wrote it. And he said, you know, he got there the day before and there was nothing, right? You said at the actual event, a metal detector got him.

He was like, but he just walked in and, you know, there's no coverage at all, so a lot of people are pointing at that. But it's also like, again, I don't know. Did they identify a guy who was planning to do this? They'll let him in, but we'll stop him at the end of that way. Like, they would never do that. That would be insane. He'd have to be somebody that was on their side, and I don't understand what he's,

what he's then going to do or who he's supposed to be. They fabricate his entire backstory. All these reports from people who said they knew him, known him for years. At the college he was at or whatever. Well, the problem is, like, our current information environment is so poignant. that you can't like the you can't even shitpost your way into a conspiracy theory anymore because there like there was like a i. generated photo of the shooter wearing an idf sweatshirt right that too before you got caught yeah right so that's been confirmed to have been a i that picture

it wouldn't make i saw that picture but i haven't seen you know what i mean i did not see then later everyone being like oh hey that was fake by the way all i saw was the picture do you know what i'm saying so they so they i feel like people are so invested in the cartoon conspiracy theories is they missed the real conspiracy, okay? The real conspiracy is going to be this paint this guy as if he's a larger part of some movement the plan and executed and assassination attempt

to the president of the United States. When in reality, he's a very normie, like, uh, lib, like, he donated, he donated $25 to Kamala's campaign. He, like, hasn't, he had an account on Blue Sky where he made it very clear he's opposed to the rhetoric of Osamaiker, right?

Like, he's like a, he went to Caltech, he worked in tech for a little bit, then he was, like, tutoring kids. he's like avid churchgoer and his manifesto he thanked his church for being his family for 30 years of his life and apologize to them for embarrassing

him which he absolutely should because they're all going to interrogate by the fucking FBI. The thing that lately seem to offend him the most was the president depicting himself as Jesus. All right. So when I say the guy's very normie,

I mean he's not like like the assistant reporting from national security reporters is talking about how the FBI is online like terror none of the AIs or like tracking software or whatever flag this guy at all because he's not who they're looking for. They're looking for like a left wing leg like fucking lunatic or like somebody part of Antifa.

He's like a guy who volunteered for the soup kitchens. I know. And that's another reason why I don't buy that he's some kind of like patsier. It's like a fabricated thing because I don't think they, they don't know about like subtlety and nuance and shit. Like if they were fabricating this dude's background, he would be, his manifesto would talk about his time in Antifa. he'd have like purple hair and be non-binary.

He wouldn't have called Trump a pedophile and racist. He would have been like, I can't handle this toxic, you know, alpha male who's such a strong man that he's ruining. You know what I mean? It was still sort of made him sound good, but in a way that pussies can't stand. Like it would have been like that instead. And you might hear me say that and be like, right, but that's why it's smart. That's why it's smart to do it this way. It's like, right.

Yeah, I know. I don't think that they're smart, right? You know, like I don't think they would do that. I don't think they would have fabricated manifest them in such a way that would lead to Trump. flipping the fuck out on 60 minutes about it about what it said about him inside of there. You know what I mean? Like, I just...

There's also the part where like, if you, like, so, like, so the idea is like, we're going to stage a false flag attack to, to generate a three to five day three point bump in his approval ratings. For what fucking reason? This will be out of the news by Thursday. Like, by the time you, like, you guys, the audience, listen to this tomorrow. It'd be fucking long path unless they're still arguing they need it to,

it's the reason to build the ballroom. like let me read Okay, let me read here from his manifesto He starts off, hello everybody So I may have given a lot of people a surprise today Is that And then he signed it Cole, his name's Cole Allen

He signed a cold force friendly federal assassin-Alat Does any of that sound like something a Fed would fucking come up with It's too fucking corny and weird Yeah He'd like the part Again going back to the actual conspiracy is going to be here They're really lying about what's in this fucking manifesto. And I need to be clear here,

it's not just the political violence is bad because we all eventually end up being a part of it as it grows, but it's bad because why would you want to make Donald Trump a fucking martyr when he has a 33% approval rating right now? Nothing that happens after this is going to make things better, even in the short term. Right. So like, so, but so I'm not like,

no way I'm defending his actions. And also like, you have to be, like he comes across as really sane in this, just driven to moral outrage, but like, trying to kill the president by yourself as a lone gunman is a stupid, insane fucking thing to do. Right. The amount of retention. By how it went for him, you know.

Right. Even the security footage of him, like, you know, sprinting down that hallway and they're all like, oh, shit, what was that? I mean, it's like, it's funny looking, but it's also like, bro, like, that was your whole plan? You know what I mean? Like that fucking, it's not, it's not exactly, uh, IMF stuff, you know, Tom crew.

No. The fucking Mission Impossible franchise. It's a little more cartoony than that. So, so, yeah, the line about what's in is this quote,

like, manifesto, when does it email to your family become a manifesto? Is it just if you're talking about killing the president in it? Is it just, it's not,

because it's not due with the link. It wasn't very long. So, like, to be fair, I once wrote a drunken email to a producer at CMT before I was like,

had gone viral and stuff, telling them that they didn't know what they were doing by not giving me a job there or whatever. And I sent it to Corey and Drew the next morning and I was like, hey, should I not have done this? And they both immediately started laughing. And the first thing Drew said was, well, it appears to be a manifesto because it was super long. So there's precedent for emails being manifestos even without an assassination attempt involved,

Mark is what I'm saying. And I know from personal experience. You will be my go-to expert on what qualifies the manifesto. Yeah. Well, I literally published a manifesto a few years after that. So, you know, I've got some experience in manifesto work. Anyway. So they keep saying, they immediately said his manifesto was full of,

by the way, another part of this, like you've got the conspiracy theories have to account for is his family called law enforcement when they got this email, right?

I guess it could have been the Fed sending it knowing the family would immediately turn him in. I don't know. But it's like, they keep saying that's like anti-Christian rhetoric.

And this was dutifully repeated by the media. Like the FBI says is full of anti-Christian rhetoric, which is important to know qualifies as terrorism under Trump's EOs and SPM.

National Presidential Security Memorandum 7 that we've talked about before. The anti-Christian brother are talking about involved, let me quote here. I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes. Rebuttals to objections. Objection one. As a Christian, you should turn the other cheek. Rebuttal. Turn the other cheek is for when you yourself are oppressed.

I am not the person raped at a detention camp. I'm not the fisherman executed without trial. I'm not a school kid blown up or child starved or a teenage girl abused but a many criminals. in this administration. Turn the other cheek when someone else is oppressed is not Christian behavior is complicit in the oppressor's crimes.

He's doing a kind of just war theory for why it's not a sin for him to kill Donald Trump. That's a lot of things. It's not anti-Christian. And like it's like you can say it's anti-Christian to commit murder or assassinations.

But like you've got to also like do the people blow up abortion clinics are they unchristian? I would say they're not behaving Christianly, but I can't say I can't say they don't have faith. You know? So it's just,

all this is so fucking bizarre. And like the fact that Trump was in the middle of getting, uh, entertained by a mentalist doing close up magic is this the fucking, this guy, the Oz Perlman, let me quote here. If I had been killed,

people would have forever have said, why didn't, why didn't you see that coming? He says, like that's the worst way for a mentalist to die because the memes are just too good. you're self-aware about that if you could read Trump's mind

wouldn't it just be like cartoons of two pigs fucking or something like what the hell's going on in there I think the fact this happened at the White House Correspondence dinner is like fucking double maddening to me because the thing shouldn't be happening not in the way that it happens they should never invite the president to speak it's the first time Trump's ever gone to that

well that's another thing that's another part of it that everybody's like he's never once gone since he's been the president. He makes a big deal out of going this time. There were all these reports. He was, you know, he was playing in a quote, mic drop moment that his staff was like concerned about and that was all in the

lead up to it. And then this happens and then he's trying to get a ballroom out of it and it's just all too convenient. People like, and they used the fact that he'd never been before. And then I know, I'm sure you're probably going to bring up the Kalshi shit or whatever, right? Like the bets on, you

know, whether he would speak there. this is in our group chat the other day. Like whether he would speak or whether he would be escorted out. I read that, I guess that's, I also got that from Reddit. I mix up Reddit in our group chat in my, that there were like cowshe bets and stuff on, on that. Will he, you know, will he be escorted out? Well, he ended up speaking and people find these.

And it's like, oh, but Barron made $80,000 on this, you know, or whatever the fuck. All kinds of shit like that. He's going for the first time because he's defeated them. He's doing a victory lap. They completely suck his dick now. Like, he's like, he's, like, he's, to whip it out and flee,

you guys do whatever I fucking tell you now. Because the White House press corps is the most cowed, pathetic weak institution. They do no reporting. They write down what the White House says and tell everybody

and think they're goddamn heroes for it. And then you got, like the whole thing always has the vibe of the capital and Hunger Games. We're like, what they're doing is totally separate

from what's going on the rest of the world and all the suffering they're fucking participating in and covering like it's a goddamn TV show. And then the fact that there was a shoot

shooting where nobody got hit if a shooter got stopped at a metal detector if this happened at a school they wouldn't have even interrupted classes but because it happened with earshot of Jake Tapper it's a big fucking deal like fuck you man like my sister's schooler she works as putting in metal detectors even though it's a small rural school with no threats

because that's the only thing the federal government will get grants for it's free money they might as well put them in that we're supposed to accept that as reality but not that people can be with an earshot of gunshots because they were fucking tuxedoes. Do you know what I'm saying? Like it's, it's cartoonishly evil. Well,

I mean, I think, I don't know. I was going to say, I don't know if it'd be a bigger, it's weird because I'd almost even forgotten about the dude at the golf course or whatever, right? But it's like the first one,

that's definitely a part of it. The whole Butler thing and the shit with his ear and the picture and it's on the campaign trail and all the conspiracy theories that persist about that. And then so this happening now, it's like if that had never happened at all I don't know what people would be saying but I don't think it'd be at such a fever pitch as it is right now because of like the past context

and shit but it's also not weird that a shit load of all different kinds of fucking lone wolfie type people out there want to kill this motherfucker in particular you know in my opinion like so yeah well like what

people are always trying to kill the president right like so like like the single service shot and killed a guy in February at Moralago who was trying to it was a MAGA guy who was trying to kill Trump over not releasing the Epstein files. Now, when and where we decide what's a big deal? I guess maybe Trump wasn't at Moralago at the

time or something. Maybe that's why we didn't care about that. But like, I've lost count of how many people, times people try to kill Trump. It's not just the golf course guy or the fucking Butler guy. It's the, we've talked about before a guy who stole a forklift in Nevada and tried to kill Trump with the forklift. There's like a guy, a guy tried

to grab a cop's gun in Nevada and shoot Trump. Like, these, those are just in the deval of the happenings. There's, like, multiple ones in California. It's like, people try to kill, but people try to get, like, the way the press covers this, like, they cover Donald Trump as the center of reality. So, whenever anything's happened, it's like, was this for Trump or against Trump? It's kind of like he's Tony Sopranos and Sopranos, and everything else just kind of revolves around him, right? So, like, if it, for example, let's, let's change the identity of a shooter for a second.

The world's just, the world's just bigger, more interesting than how they want to talk about. it. If the shooter had been like an Azerbaijani Christian immigrant who was trying to kill the president of the United States, who is currently Trump, because Israel dropped a U.S. made bomb on a village of Lebanon and killed a bunch of other Azerbaijani, I think I'm Azerbaijani Christians.

Would it matter that it was Trump he was trying to kill when he would have the same justification for killing Joe Biden? Our, RFK Senior was killed by a Palestinian activist. Like, like these people, Like, there's certain kinds of people are always trying to kill the president. I think there were 11 separate attempts on Obama's life.

People kept trying to kill Obama through 2023, I think it was the last one. Like, he's a bit of president for like a half, close to a decade, people were still trying to kill him. I think there were five documented attempts on Joe Biden's life. The thing is, you don't remember those

because they didn't fucking cry about it. Like, they're the victims of reality. It comes with the job sometimes. Well, I mean, I do hear you but I feel like again the golf course one is an example we talked about that on here

but I feel like it barely even came up and did kind of go away or whatever but this is most people know what the White House correspondent's dinner is there had been some like scuttle butt about it beforehand or whatever else it's in like a public place where fucking you know

they normally have Stephen Colbert telling jokes or whatever and it's just more high pro and then not the Butler one was insanely high profile and everything and it's like yeah, there's always attempts on the president's life, but normally they don't get anywhere

and nothing really happens and people don't even really find out about them or care with this one. I mean, you're right, they definitely are making a big deal out of it too, but I don't know. Maybe it's just the culture of spectacle in general that's like adjacent to the, you know,

the Trump era or something. They also just like, it's like the most world leaders would feel the need to show some measure of reserve. Right. And like steadfastness. not run to the media and cry like a little bitch. Like it's like I don't know the way to put it, but like, like he, like, so he did an interview

with 60 minutes Sunday night where another thing you got to, this was a plan false bag to make him look strong or whatever. He faced, played it and fell face first into the carpet where they tried to walk in. I know that, right. Yeah, I alluded to that. So I said I don't think they would have set it up that way if it was. Right. And he spent the whole interview talking about how actually he didn't fall, the Secret Service

wanting him to lie down for a minute. So does any part of this feel like anybody's behind or orchestrating it? But like so, but yet I will admit that Trump. gives extra reasons to kill him. Like, he fires, like, he weighs in on everything in our reality. If you have strong opinions on NFL kickoff rules, so does Donald Trump, and you might want to kill him over them. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, like, so, like, the example, so Saturday, you know, before the fucking White House press court, it's on a correspondent, there was another event. He was a proud reception for holders, the 297 biggest holders of his meme coin. So they have this big meme coin. way back when he first took office. It was immediately, it was $70 when it launched. It's currently valued at $2.60.

So if you bought, if you bought $100,000 worth of Trump meme coin, it's not worth less than $4,000. Yeah, right. Yeah. Right. Your life savings is fucking dusted. And here he has an event with the 297 biggest holders

mean the people who haven't sold off yet, mean the people who just have money and aren't afraid to lose it and it just bought access to meet with the president of the United States. Exactly. Right. Right. Yeah. Would that not make you,

want to fucking kill the guy? Right. Yeah. If you were the person who lost your house and everything over it, right.

And then, yeah. Because yeah, obviously, yeah, the top 297, they don't, it doesn't matter to that. They always knew it was going to lose money

and they never did it for that reason in the first place. But there's like, you know, fucking mammoths, Midwestern mammals and shit who lost everything on it. And they, now they're having like a gold-plated gala in the name of the whole thing.

It's insulting and offensive. On top of the normal. anti-government activists, your right-winger's, your black-pilled right-winger who hate every president, your fucking Islamists who want to kill every president, your random loons who always want to kill every president, the people who want to impress Jody Foster. You also have people with, like, sincere, like, sincere-specific beefs with the, like, president, like, he stole my life savings, or I bought a pair of gold sneakers that fell

apart, or I bought a watch from him that says, supposed to be made to America, and a guy came, and then he turned my wrist orange. Like, they bought all those reasons, too. The people who lost money on Trump Airlines and Trump steaks. whoever, like, he's going to use government money to bail out fucking spirit airlines. Like, if you're another airline employee, you got laid off, you got a personal beef with the guy. So, like, I think I, it's just like, you can't, trying to make sense of, like, I understand why people resort to conspiracy theories because you need some of this to make sense because it's so fucking stupid. But, like, I just want to point out here, the funniest part of Cole Allen's manifesto is, let me read here, administration officials, parentheses, not including Mr. Patel are targets, prioritize from highest ranking to lowest.

He made it clear that Cash Patel was not important enough to fucking murder. But honestly, like, here's the weird part. He's such a centrist, Normie Den, that I think what he was doing was trying to make it clear that while he is killing the president of the United States, he does respect law enforcement. Right. I mean, he also listed, he specified, like, hotel security, D.C. police, capital police and stuff. And on all of those, it was something like, as long as they're not trying to kill me,

I won't, you know, I won't fuck with them. And Cash Patel's the only one, even in the realm of law enforcement that he, like, singled out. And it is funny to think. I wish he put that in a parenthetical. I wish he would have put in brackets in the parenthetical, you know, not including Mr. Patel brackets, because he's a fucking loser who's going to be fired soon anyway. So he's not worth my time or, you know, something like that. Apparently even counts.

We all know he's going to lose his job. Like, he just slammed him a little bit. But you're right. It's one of the more seemingly clear-headed manifestos that I, can remember reading, which does add to, you know, the old... I guess. And then we have to do the little dance where, like, they have to be, like, was Democratic Party's rhetoric to cause for this?

Like, they basically want to, like, blame, like, I don't know, Democratic politicians for all the people on Blue Sky are calling him Cheeto Mussolini or whatever. But, like, the idea of the Chuck Schumer that should tone down his rhetoric is fucking hilarious. And he's trying to pass a bipartisan ICE funding bill. And, like, the idea... Trump was about to take the dais and probably... call for Mark Kelly to once again be put to death for treason.

And then we got like they said they're trying to call for everyone else to be more civil. When Donald Trump's the fucking president. And like the idea like to paraphrase, what they're basically arguing is that these demonic evil traitorous terrorists need to tone down their rhetoric. Yeah. Because they're leading to violence. Yeah.

And I guess it's probably, so we should probably, uh, take a break for we get to that. We'll take a break. Yeah. Yeah. There's obviously a lot to talk about in the up top section, given the news of the week. But we'll be right back with the rest of the show.

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And I guess the thing is probably most relevant to President Trump is that they were paying the person who was involved in that United Rights rally in Charlotte's bill, which was one of the biggest points of criticism for this president during his first term. What's his thinking on what's going on now with the DOJ and the SPLC? Well, you're right. The Southern Poverty Law Center was a very reputable organization

at one point in time, and they have unfortunately transformed into a criminal organization run by fraudsters who are paying for and inciting this very racism that they claim to stand against. Now, you mentioned the Charlotte. Yeah, so the guy of Alabama journey to greenlight insanely thin indictment. It's 14 total pages of throat clearing case law, relevant statues, and evidence. Again, just 14 pages altogether to support 11 charges. I want to quote here, the SPLLC is manufacturing racism to justify its existence according to acting Attorney General Todd

Blanche. You talked about how like earlier that if this was a conspiracy, they'd talk about the assassination attempt, they would immediately tell us before the end of the week. What if I told you that they blurted out that this is a all the fucking con job

to retroactively make Donald Trump look better? Like there's not just Caroline Levitt saying it right there. They're trying to like fix Donald Trump's reputation over Charlottesville, which we've all fucking forgot about, but he's still obsessed with. Right. Play up this next video, Matt, and here Donald Trump himself confessing to it. These no kings, which are funded just like the Southern law was funded.

You saw all that Southern laws financing the KKK and lots of other radical terrible groups. And then they go out and they say, oh, we've got to stop the KKK. And yet they give them hundreds of thousands and even millions of dollars. It's a total scam run by the Democrats. It shows you that like Charlottesville, Charlottesville was all funded by the Southern Law. Okay. So Trump's going to find the secret planners of Unite the Right to strike to try to find whoever funds the protesters for BLM and the No Kings. And just like Elon Musk smashed up USA to try to find out how George Soros was paying the front of the protesters around the world.

It's the same thing. Just focused on the Southern Poverty Law Center right here. So if you guys aren't familiar with what the Southern Poverty Law Center is, they were founded in 1971, basically the idea was because white juries wouldn't convict a lot of racist murderers. They were going to take them to civil court where the bar is lower and shut down all these different clan chapters and Nazi organizations by suing them for civil rights violations. And they were the target themselves of a bunch of clan bombings and Nazi assassination attempts? Or were they? Or all those fake Nazis who got sent to prison for trying to kill the SPLC?

the just doing keeping quiet in defense of the SPLC the real gang they were part of huh makes you think right right this is like sort of inverse of if you ever heard that conspiracy theory about the uh fred feltts westboro baptist or whatever which i i feel like they've fallen off as maybe it's because the world got even crazier than they no longer stand out for their lunacy or something or he died he died a couple of kids derailed power struggle at the top yeah west bro they're all They're all inbred and shit, so they couldn't figure out who would give it to. But either way, there was like an internet conspiracy theory about them for a long time that they were like actually, that they were kind of like a false flag meant to like raise awareness about and get attention to like homophobic,

fucking, you know, causes and shit or something like that by showing up and, you know. That, I don't have any evidence that. I never thought about that before, but that would be a clear example of how you would go about something like this. they would be like having the Westboro Baptist was so obnoxious in such a small organization that was easy it was one church of like one family yeah in Kansas yeah yeah who would travel the country and it didn't take a lot of money to do and they would like protest troop funerals right because the troops were defending satanic fucking pro gay sinful the empire of the United States right so like if I was going to try to make somebody hate bigots that's a very clear

lead operation to do that right um but yeah so if If convicted, by the way, they're charged an entity, so what happened is a bunch of financial penalties, and it would create the groundwork for people to sue them into oblivion, the way they sue the clan into oblivion. So that's sort of like what would happen here if they were convicted, which I don't think they will be. But to try to solve the logic, all the racism in America is funded by the SPLC, to gin up donations for the SPLC, so they can pretend to fight the racism that they are actually funding. And the point of all this is just the fundraise. They don't actually do anything with the money that they fund the racism with.

other than fund the racism. They don't steal any of the money, which is important in here. They just pro fundraise for the love of the fucking game. And I want to play this clip with David Sachs because there's a lot of like fuzzy math and funny numbers here,

but yeah, this is David Sachs who's billionaire, like, tech investor who's Trump's Aazar talking about this on his podcast. A lot of details of this case. Yeah, so you're right that the SPLC allegedly did fund $270,000 to help plan

Charlottesville In addition to that, they secretly funneled more than three. So $275,000 to fund the United Right Rally. Well, the actual allegation here is like one formant was paid a total of $270,000 over nine years between 2015 and 2012. So they paid him $30,000 a year to risk his life and forming on his compatriots at whatever organization he was a part of. So he'd gotten paid about $60,000 into his pocket by then, which they are pretending was funding the actual rally, which is not. Yeah, that's why I was, I knew you were going to get there eventually, but I was like, let me clear up exactly what they're even saying happened here because it's, yeah,

they paid informants who were Klam members or Nazis or whatever, but like, that's like always the case, isn't it? Like, if you need an informant on any kind of like criminal or nefarious organization, you can't like pay like some hero who also hates them to give you information on them. You're trying to do that. You got to get the information from the inside, which means they're going to have some affiliation with the group that you're investigating. It's like with the police, they have informants and shit. Those informants are part of the criminal organization they're looking into or whatever.

Like, that's all just, that's just how all that shit works, isn't it? Or is it like a further accusation that, like, you know, they give them the idea to do these things, like the way the FBI does? Like, they give them money and they're like, hey, you know, it would be cool. if you started a Nazi rally and ran over a bunch of protesters at it or whatever. And then when it happens, they're like, these fucking lunatics. Like, are they saying they did that?

No, it's like, so I used to have a buddy I'd argue with about like, you know, in the Leops of Iraq war, the Bush administration was clearly blaming Saddam for 9-11. Now, the rhetorical game they'd play was they would never say Saddam did 9-11. So we have to pretend to prevent the next 9-11. Saddam Hussein must be overthrown. Yeah.

And a buddy who defended me, where they're not saying Saddam, I was like, no, I know there's a period between the two sentences, but if you're barely paying attention, what do you think they're fucking saying?

Dude. Yeah, I mean, all the redneck bros and stuff, I was in my high school at the time, we're literally just saying, you got damn right, we gotta go to war with Iraq.

They knocked our towers down, like that type, you know what I mean? Right. They just straight and believed that it was, right, yeah. They weren't paying enough attention

and it was like, well, he didn't exactly say that. You know, like the message got through regardless. So they're saying that they, paid a guy, $270,000, of which he'd received $60,000 before United the Right. And then somehow that led directly to Heather Hyer getting railroad by a car. But again, like, when the feds, like, they'll do similar type operations, but they charge the underlying crime. They're underline crime.

Like if Heather Hire died at Charlottesville, she got hit by a car and died. If they had proof that they had actually arranged for that to happen, they'd be charged with conspiracy to commit murder or terrorism. They're not. They're not remotely alleged to be connected with it. What they're doing is saying they gave a guy $60,000, he also did something, like the actually indictment, that person, let me read this to you because like they do not spell this out in the indictment what's actually alleged. This is as close to they get. This is a, the guy is called F-37.

F-Stance for field source, with the, I guess what the SPLC calls them as field sources. F-37 was a member of the online leadership chat group that planned the 2017 unite the right event in Charlottesville, Virginia, and attend the the event at the direction of the SPLC. they don't say what online leadership means. They don't say who else is in this chat group, how high up this rank this person was. They say he attended at the direction of the SPLC, which they don't include the email or evidence.

I have no idea whether the grand jury saw it. I said, quote, F-37 made racist postings under the supervision of the SPLC. Bro, have you been on the internet? Nobody needs to be ordered to make racist postings, especially the guy who became an informant for them because he was already in the fucking clan or whatever. Right.

That's why, again, all of that, I don't understand how any of that is supposed to be the same as them. It's making it out, like they orchestrated and funded, you know, all of the goings on. They paid this, yet, he's an informant who's doing clan shit. That's why he's an informant for them. And they're fucking paying him the way they pay informants as part of an investigation or whatever. If this was an actual leader, if this was like Stuart Rhodes, the guy was in charge of the oathkeepers, they'd be like, oh, wow, you got something there. This is pretty fucking interesting.

But, like, this is just some guy who, like, was voted in as, like, social chair of a local clan organization. Like, I don't know what they're supposed to be. Like, even the idea of, like, directing him to go to the rally, even that to me is, like, if he's an informant, the idea of being, like, hey, fucking go to that and give us information about, like, what happens there or whatever. It's, like, that's not weird either. I mean, I guess I will. I didn't know that the SPLC, I didn't know that they even did this kind of like whatever, you know,

whatever you call this, investigation and stuff, but within the realm of investigating, right, criminal organizations or hateful organizations and everything, it all sounds pretty par for the course to me. This is nothing different like than what every private investigator of the United States does. Right.

It's like, like, like, like, you go to like, hey man, I'll give you $1,000 for some records you stood to take them a filing cabinet.

Yeah, right. By the lawyer work for is sue when your boss. It's like, okay, slide the fucking $100 bill across the fucking desk or whatever. Yeah. We've all seen, we've all seen Fletch, right?

So like, so like, like, like, if you want to outlaw, like, like, so yeah, don't have private detectives. I was also talking about, like, corporate espionageal. If you want to make all this stuff illegal, let's fucking talk about it. But like, why is this one organization the one not allowed to do it? But the last thing this guy's accused of F37 is as he helped coordinate transportation to the event for several attendees. What did they mean by that?

Did he forward the hotel where they had a block? right, the information? Did he actually make plane, like, buy plane tickets? What does this mean? Like, they don't say. There might be something there, but I think if they had a there there there, they would say the there and the there. You know what I'm saying? So, like,

but as always, this is just like an attempt to recast white people as the real victims of racism? It's like, oh, they weren't a racist, they were just entrapped by, again, a lot of the leadership of the SPOC is, you like, historically, Jewish. I'm going to point out there.

So basically, what they're saying is a civil right advocates who spent decades mapping and dismantling the clan or somehow its secret benefactors enriching themselves by secretly creating racism something which is apparently in such short supply can only be generated and constant infusions of cash and here we are, Trey, being racist for free like a couple of suckers.

It's always, that's what I'm saying. Everybody else's always getting paid to have the beliefs they already have. Not me. I've gone just have in mind for fucking nothing. Right. Yeah. But the thing is, like, with these sort of cases and sort of like, they're already like, again, talking about the assassination, the real conspiracy being to miscast what happened and who did it just by, by, you know, screaming the loudest with the lack of facts.

This whole prosecution is designed to leave like a big false impression in the minds of people who never look past the headlines. Right. And like, no one ever go back and tell these people in this case quietly falls apart in a month or two months or six months. Yeah, it's like all that. The Somali dikear shit, you know what I mean? stuff and all stuff when we were talking about all that and yeah

Iraq did 9-11 we just get like a surface level sort of an understanding of a thing that happened that you think is bad and then you just run with that forever without ever you know hearing any of the actual context

or caring to you know I remember like the we talked about it before but the Atlanta nightclub the post nightclub shooting in Orlando that like the first day story was like it was a homophobic hate crime committed by a guy who's

ISIS supporter. And the guy did basically, you know, did do it to shout out ISIS, but it's not clearly the New Pulse was the gay club, or maybe he was clothed the gay. But anyway, they tried to make her into a big conspiracy. And when his wife was tried, she got acquitted. Everyone was super shocked that his wife was acquitted, but there was never any conspiracy there.

It was never. It was just the FBI looking busy. So, like, but all this, like, bullshit, I don't want to remember that, like, in the hours after January 6th, Matt Gates went on the house floor and claimed that facial recognition and confirmed the violent mob was really Antifa.

And then for years after January 6th, they said that Oathkeeper's militia member, Ray Epps was an FBI plant. And Epps had to move houses because he got somebody death threats for being a fad. Ramps wasn't a fed. They weren't Antifa goons.

Everybody's just fucking pretending to get lying that the people that the people that did this shit somehow got tricked into doing it. Right? It's fucking such bullshit. Right. Is it just a

do you think the origin of this is like you said like Trump still is a little sensitive to the perception of Charlottesville and the aftermath. It was one of his first big what the fuck bro, like sort of moments when he said there's good people on both sides.

He can't, he still hasn't gotten past that and it's like he's looking for the way to fuck them over. Because he's got a lot of political enemies he's trying to come after in some sort of legislative fashion weaponizing the DOJ or whatever and this they someone ginned up this approach for the SPLC specific

specifically, even though, like I said, it's all kind of standard operating procedure. They were like, well, we could do this. And they're like, all right, well, then that's the, that's the spin. That's the narrative to run with that. And then here we are. Yeah. I mean, the SPLC specifically has been, as a boogeyman on the right. So like, the fact that, like, I'm not even sure where they got the idea to, like,

what pretext they used to subpoena these bank records that are in the indictment or, like, how they got all this information. But like, first of all, the idea that the federal government was shocked to find out the SPLC was using informants is extremely silly considering the SPLC the FBI used the information they got from the informants for fucking decades until Cash Patel stopped

this practice in January of last year as soon as he was confirmed. It's like there's so many Nazis and Klan members in federal prisons because of SPLC informants that must be really pissed off at the FBI FBI right now. So here's okay now to be

a little bit nuanced to a point where I make everybody mad the their basic beat for the SPLC is that like and Elon

retweeted a guy he like he does recognize that people are smarter than him and made this point cogently with a little bit

anger and braces and invective but it's like the SPLC I'm paraphrasing here is another legacy

liberal organization the forgot its core mission and spread out and it's like basic just vague diversity

in DIA wokeness and sort of like got off track and like the one they'll point to is the SPLC named a couple years ago turning points USA Charlie Kirk's group a hate group all right now I'm not a fan of Charlie Kirk or TPSA or their politics or you know the go around debating random teenagers at colleges and it seems like a waste of time is just propaganda efforts to me but like I don't think it's fair to put them on the same list as organizations that burn down black churches right so that's essentially

how the right got so mad at them. It is sort of unfair that are, like, a lot of times breast coverage would treat the SPLC terror designation as like sacrosanct. It's like this group, comma, which has been called a hate group by the HPLC, it's like, oh, it's a hate group.

Like, it's like, so it is like, it loses large in their imagination. Right. You know what's funny about this to me is thinking that like all the like Nazis and clan members and stuff who are at Charlottesville or who have done these things, this is kind of like slandering them. you know, which is funny.

Yes. That was our idea. It wasn't some fucking liberal Jew lawyers who came up with it, all right? We spent weeks planning that hate rally and that had fucking taken all our credit. You have no right. Here's Richard Spencer

on the podcast of Gavin McGinnis, the guy who founded the proud boys making this exact point. Richard Spencer, if you don't remember, is the alt-right neo-Nazi new right leader, explicitly racist, friends went to college with Stephen Miller. He's the one who got punched in the face of Trump's first inauguration. Conservatives are dumb and they come to the wrong conclusion and they come to a very self-serving

conclusion, which is that anyone who isn't, you know, daily wire or Matt Walsh or what have you, Anyone who isn't in a movement conservative is somehow a puppet. And the people pulling the strings are, you know, graduates of Yale University, the military industrial complex of the SPLC, the deep state, et cetera. And it's all fake and a sham. The fact is this is... He's saying, I helped organize United the Right. It was really about something.

and you're fucking stealing my valor. So, like, let me leave me here. There's a guy whose Twitter handle is Emperor Invictus, so you can guess what he's like. I went to jail over Charlottesville. The event was on the up and up and y'all are dead to me.

Nick Fuentes, the new line that I work with the SPLC is the laziest fed-jacketing narrative yet. I was 18 when I went to Shrodsville. The SPLC docks to my house in 2022, which led to me almost getting murdered, got me censored, docks to my interns,

and got friends of mine fired from their jobs. This is part of a new wave of attacks against me from the Washington Post, Atlantic, ADL, and now the MAGA crowd. They're going after my credibility again with the debunk Fed narrative, all this is because we're going to have an impact in the midterms.

He's saying this is a federal government conspiracy to silence Nick Fuentes because he's turning on Donald Trump ahead of the midterter. I was just about to say, as you were reading that, I was like, I don't even think about that angle because obviously there's the MAGA civil war

or whatever the fuck is going on right now and the idea that, yeah, this is part of, yeah, discrediting Fuente because I know Fuentes has been going in on him lately and everything so well Fuentes gets I mean all these guys in you know it's

we all exist in the same sort of content generally it's easy to make content in opposition to something right like it's it sucks for my brain or whatever but it's much easier putting this show together when Donald Trump's president than when Joe Biden's president right so

like like Nick Fuentes makes not hurt $1,000 a year in superchats from people that are riled up and want to get him to answer the questions. So like he, I mean, honestly, putting him on my head, my brain in his head, like, he has a right to be frustrated. He was promised a bunch of mass deportations. And they're ineffectually carrying him out and it's fucked up. And now he's lost support.

It's not going to happen. So his basic thing is like, we need to clear house and start over again in 2028. Right. So like, because he really, really wants to make America whiter. And John Frum's fucking that up. So, like, so I want to talk about the actual indictment here because I want to, I want to talk about specifically what's being alleged outside of the field sources and the informant stuff. The theory of the case here for why this is fraud is the SPLC's website says they fight Nazis,

but in actuality they paid some of the Nazis, so what they did was they defrauded their donors with their website copy. Thing is, they haven't made it clear that donors didn't know they were using the money to pay informants, and no donors come forward to complain about the covert information program or even be expressed surprise about it. So they're arguing that the SPLC was ineffective in their mission. So if so,

why the Nazis hate them? So, I mean, Nazis fucking hate the SPLC. That's why they want them destroyed. Yeah. Again, I just don't know. I wouldn't blink. If I was a big multimillionaire and I'd like, don't a bunch of money to the SPLC because I wanted them to take down like the Klan. And then they had

some big case where they got a bunch of Klam, you know, successfully you know, sued them or brought legal action against them or whatever and then i found out as you told me as part of that but they used some of the money i gave them to pay an informant which led to actionable information on the workings of that organization that's how they helped to build a case i would be like okay cool well money well spent then you know what i mean because that's i don't well how the fuck else they're supposed to do it other than just sitting cars with fucking cameras and those little long

range microphones and stuff you know what i mean you got to talk to people on the inside I don't get how any of this is supposed to be bad or out of line if you're not an idiot who just hates the SPLC, I guess, is what I'm saying. I don't even really sounds that bad other than they wrote checks that were cashed by people who were in the Ku Klux Klan or whatever. But if you know the context of why they did that, it's not weird. It's like, of course they did that. Well, the problem is, like, everyone's so conspiracy brain now that even when you're told about

conspiracy like we've uncovered us a memberships of a clan role that prove these guys were all the same club and one of them blew up a building and you're like no no but what's the real story they must be the government like it's like there's never any bottom to it enough to tell you oh we got to the bottom of it it was this cell of federal

agents who were working for a delta force because he won't inflame it's like okay okay but who really did it who's framing delta force for it you're like oh fuck there's no like you cannot be pleased here it's like you think like the fact that a bunch of Nazis are running around all around you

would be an interesting enough conspiracy theory but no, there's got to be there funded by the SPLC. So, another part of the case here is like the proof of the SPLC's

cognizance of their guilt is that they're using bank accounts under fake names to pay the informants. They need, the fake bank accounts were set up under names like Fox Photography,

rare books incorporated and a company whose initials were CIA, which is like really bad this. Okay. Again, that feels like that should be standard to me.

If this is the type of thing you're doing. Like, do you know what I mean? That's just very general, like, I don't know what the word is, fucking trade craft or whatever. A member of a, a member of the Nazi party is your informant having a pay stubs it says Southern Poverty Law Center on it. Of course. Like, yeah, nobody, even if you're paying him, informants would be like, what the fuck you're trying to get me killed if you didn't do that?

Like, they would demand that you do that so that they don't get discovered or whatever. Like, of course they did that. And these are organizations that do kill their informants, which begs the question, if the SPLC is openly partnering with these groups, why would the Nazis kill people for taking their money? Right. Right. It's like we're really begging the question here. So what, let me talk, first time, let's talk about what is in the indictment. Zera mentioning self-dealing by SPLC executives, meaning they didn't take any money for themselves. Again, they're just calling people out of cash for the love of the game to have a sit-in-a-bank account. if the SPLC were really trying to manufacture racism

devoting just $3 million over the course of a decade and annual budget, annual budget tops $120 million. You're talking about out of $1.2 billion, they spent $3 million of it generating up racism according to the federal government. This is a pretty inefficient way to go about it. And the government's theory of the case, the informants took their SPLC bounty

and put it back into the organizations instead of spinning it on like truck payments and crystal meth, which seems unlikely to me. Right. So, tell about how women. Tell about how thin and weak this case is for a second. So this is based upon their copy on their website. The DOJ quoted an SPLC article describing a Ku Klux Klan group called the United Clans of America as, quote,

a millennial reboot of what was once a serious domestic threat. A millennial reboot of the clan is hilarious to make the United Clans of America. So, but so they say that the SPLC is framing them to make them be. hype them up to be big and malevolve, except they misquoted the website copy because it wasn't a millennial reboot. It was a pathetic millennial reboot. They omitted the word pathetic,

which contradicts their case. So you can imagine it, whatever FBI has got to get up in court, and it's like, sir, do you think this undermines the credibility of your argument? And then you're going to have a federal attorney from Alabama, I'd be like,

objection, y'all. How dare you impuging the integrity? You know, all the southern juries like fan of themselves, because, yeah, serious undersuits. Yeah, we all see the movies. And also, the indictment describes a decade-long scheme involving millions of dollars, but when you read lower down, they're talking about the actual wild fraud charges cover $14,000.

They're removed on a single day. And the argument is that the funds were transferred under false pretenses because the email across state lines didn't actually say what the money was for? It's like, if this actually results in a conviction. It surely won't, Robin. That's their whole thing. I'm sure there's some, like, really fucking good lawyers that work for the Southern Poverty Law Center, right?

They're probably... They're probably laughing about this, I would think. Like, you know, there's no way... Like, if you just took this to any, like, random civilian organization or just a private entity or something, but, like, kind of...

At least nationally famous, if not world-famous, a law group in particular, like, it just feels like... surely not. I mean, I know we're not dealing with the best courts or judges in certain areas right now, and I know they're kind of a buggy man, but still, they're used to that,

I would think. I think they can probably navigate this. It would think, but that's where you would, that's where this wraps up into the big picture, and well, we'll close that on this. It's like, Project 2025 was a pretty scary document, and they're implementing it pretty ham-fistily, and they fucked it all up. But, like, the whole idea

between huge parts of it was like a war on liberal civil society, like, like the SPLC, the ACLU, you know, Greenpeace, Amnesty International, you know, like any sort of NGO. And do you tack like, you know, they're fundraising apparatuses. You go after like their tax exempt statuses. They're like remember back when they, they try to blackmail all these white shoe law firms into, you know, signing agreements of federal government to keep their national, their security clearances. And part of the agreements where they would would not do so much pro bono work for groups like the SPLC

Instead would donate pro bono work to the government on behalf of suing groups like the SPLC That was a pinch or move to try to stop these organizations being able to function right Right so like that's that's the part of it like that should be that I've been waiting for the shoes to drop and the fact this is just fraud a really weak fraud case and as opposed to charging them with some sort of larger Antifa terror conspiracy plot is kind of relief to me

because this is fucking stupid as fuck. Right. But any guy, if you're wondering how all this connects together, Representative Jim Jordan said that on Fox News Sunday, I don't think it should be lost on anyone that we have a third assassination attempt

on Trump in the same week we learned that the Southern Poverty Law Center has been exposed for paying and generating hate. So, again, ACLU, SPLC, all these groups from the same conspiracy to kill Donald Trump and they must all be rolled up in a conspiracy charge and brought down on Rico

for the sake of America or something. All right. You guys heard, Mark demands it. Thank you guys for watching real quick. Go to Trey Crowder.com. Check out my upcoming tour dates. I've got Brooklyn this weekend and a bunch of West Coast date right after that

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