Weekly Skews - Weekly Skews - 10/10/23 – Dangerous Days in the Middle East

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

Tonight we tackle the simple and straightforward task of breaking down the current situation with Israel and Palestine. Surely the two of us shall have it solved in under an hour. Also we bash RFK Jr. for a bit, among other things. Join us. Support the show

Howdy y'all? It is once again Skew's Day. I'm Trey. That's Mark. It's October 10th, 2023. I don't know that I would rate today at 10 of 10,

but here we are. How you doing, Mark? Good, man. I don't know if you missed the biggest news in the world until shit popped off in Israel, but Commander Biden, Joe Biden's German Shepherd

won't stop biting people. Specifically, it was the biggest cable news covers this like it was the biggest story in the world that commanded by and apparently he's been 11 different secret service agents and only bites secret service agents yeah that's that part's weird he hates not black people but black yeah yeah yeah cops or suits or something he's like racist against uh secret service people that's weird fox news did this is he old is it an old dog no it's a puppy oh okay yeah uh apparently i've read like some of my german shepherds it's It's a bad environment for a German Shepherd because they're hurting dogs and protecting dogs.

You've got people coming and going a lot of times, all the towns, very busy. Probably, maybe they picked a bad breed of dog for the White House. Anyway, this is a different dog that was biting people before. Because before it was Major Biden. He got banished to Delaware. I guess commander's going to get both banished too. But Fox News is one. Are they actually getting banished?

Like, that sounds like, is it a farm they're going to in Delaware? Yeah. I mean, I doubt Biden's just going to have the Secret Service take him out back an old yellow room or anything. That would be. I'm a little too intense. Yeah, I wouldn't know if the PR would be good for that. I'm sure they're down for it, though, the Secret Service agents, but yeah. Fox News is the whole segment on whether it was happening because Joe Biden's old.

It's like maybe the dog can sense that Biden's so infirm is a need of protection, therefore he's biting everyone that comes. It's like, okay, whatever. Speaking of Biden-related, you know, horny animals, we got another Biden-nude controversy see, Frank Biden, Joe Biden's younger brother, apparently posted a naked selfie on a gay dating site. A site I'd never heard off called Guys with iPhones.com. Someone dug it.

I'll be posted in 2018, I guess. So to steal the line that I'm not even sure where it originates but I see it on the internet all the time, but if I had a nickel for every time, one of the president's male family members, dick picks leaked, I'd have like two nickels, which isn't a whole lot, but it's weird that it's happened twice, you know?

Right. Can I make a full request that I remember the Biden family or anyone with the last name Biden to stop putting their dick on the internet? That would be nice. But they try to turn this to a scandal, which I don't know, what's the president's brother trying to date? Be like, is this make the president subject to blackmail? It's like, can't imagine like a rush's intelligence apparatus going to go into Joe Biden

and be like, we'll tell the world your brother's gay and Joe Biden caring at all? It's just like totally fucking. Yeah, I mean, honestly. Honestly, it might have, you know, just having a gay brother might even, you know, being upside for Joe Biden, you know what I mean, politically. Politically, like it plays, you know, I mean, a gay brother with, you know, who's blasting his dick all over the place, you know, publicly, maybe less so. But you'll have that.

The guys with iPhones.com part of it is funny to me, too, because it's like, I feel like there's more mainstream area. But, you know, he's old, obviously, right. He's Biden's brother. So it's like, you know, he just did some spare go. Where should I put my dick on the, you know? And it just ended up like guys with iPhones. Yeah, he Google, where do guys with iPhones put their dicks?

And he just found guys with iPhones. But he's in great shape. I got to tell you, I saw the picture. He's like, he's got RFK Jr. body. Other news, Congressman back in the session yesterday or day. And Nancy Mayas walked in today wearing a shirt with the Scarlet A on it, the Scarlet Letter, because she's been branded an outcast because she voted to House Governor McCarthy. And I was like, are you called the A, in the book,

The Aist for adultery. Adultery, yeah. Are you calling yourself a whore, answering me? Right. Yeah. Because she'd, but it's like, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what she would, like, I wonder if she actually, like, thought through that.

And she was like, you know, she considered herself an outcast or a pariah or something. She's like, but if I put an O, no one's going to get it. You know what I mean? Like, I can't do it. If I just put a red P, people are going to be trying to figure out what that means. I got to go with the A, but A means adulterous or adultery or whatever. So, you know, maybe just don't do that at all. Do you think maybe the rest of our parties banned so many books,

nobody gets the reference anymore? Yeah, that would be funny. That's possible. Updates on a couple of labor things. Kaiser Permanente walked out on strike last week, a bunch of nurses. And think of a nursing strike is so depressing. As a lot of what they're fighting for is, you know, for more of their patients to live, you know, get better care.

And the company's like, no, we need this, we need this money so people need to die. It's just like, just bleak, bleak stuff in the American economy. Good news, United Auto Workers got General Motors to agree their battery factory will be union. I'm going to play this video as Sean Fane, the president of the United Auto Workers, talking shit about it. GM has now agreed in writing to place their electric battery manufacturing under our National Master Agreement. We've been told for months that this is impossible. We've been told the EV future must be a race to the bottom. And now we've called their bluff.

What this will mean for our membership cannot be understated. GM, GM. You can cut it, Matt. Yeah. So, yeah, the right wing's been doing this, the Republicans in the right, and the companies have been doing this thing where they make it sound like there's some huge divide

between environmentalism and good jobs, and this just proves that it is a total fucking scam. It's important not just to our economy in the middle class, but also the environment and, you know, saving the planet. The political stuff, like, everything's gotten so scrambled. We talked about it a couple weeks ago, but the political media just cannot keep up with how much bullshit of Republicans are related to spend. Like, here's a headline that's actually honest, but it's not from a mainstream website, a mainstream news site. Trump attacks United Auto Workers as terrible negotiators and demands their endorsement. That is a very Trumpian headline right there.

It's been salting to their face and demanding that they love him, or at least that they get in line. Yeah. J.D. Vance keeps showing up on the picket lines to do God knows what, since he's opposed to everything the workers want. And here's Representative Marcy Kaptur from Ohio, giving him an appropriate amount of shade over his Tom Hulery. Very well. Nice to see, Marcy. Good to see you. First time here?

First time here. Yeah. All right. There you go. That's a bless your heart. heart for a Yankee. She also, if you're only listening, she, she left him hanging on a fist bump

attempt, which I also liked. He shook her hand and then you went to give her a fist bump and she just weren't having it. Yeah, disdain. The Derek Pardy is finally learning from people like John Fetterman. Disdain's the only way to greet these motherfuckers. Yeah. I mean, what is he doing? I mean,

whatever, just to like trying to score points or whatnot, but it's just so, like, baldly disingenuous. You know what I mean? Like, like you said, Like, a Republican senator going to the front lines of a labor movement is, you know, it's a bit much. I mean, we're going to be talking about what's going on in Israel and Republicans' response to it. But, like, Kevin McCarthy, as part of his bids, or you take his speakership was like, he laid his five-point plan to support Israel, and he was to confront anti-Semitism in the U.S.

And I was like, buddy, talk to the rest of your caucus. Yeah, right, absolutely. He don't do a George Santos slur in the next step. It's like if it like this is the in a modern media environment, it'd be like Joseph Goebbels going to like a Hanukkah dinner and the press being like Goebbels reaches out to German Jewish population or something. Or I'd be like, oh, well, who's to say? Yeah. All right. Well, as we just alluded to, we will be getting into all that a little bit lighter.

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We're tackling the very simple and straightforward task of unpacking the, Israel-Palestine situation. Me and Mark both talked before the show started about how it's probably one of the things we would prefer to avoid talking about the most, but hey, what are you going to do? It's what we do here, and that's all anybody's talking about largely. So we will get into it, but first, we still are going to start with the Daily Dumbass. Matt, graphic, please. The DD tonight is everyone who got vaccinated since now, we can't do this anymore.

Edit. RFK Jr. Okay, you tell. All right. How would you like that phone, Mark? You're going to hold up a sign with a number on there right now. What would you give it out of ten? One out of ten. So I thought he was going to do a funny bit there.

We're like he was going to cut to with somebody doing it really great. flip. Yeah, that would have. You make it like it's like a black stunt man or something. You know what I mean? Like make it very obvious. It's not him, but they execute a perfect, I don't know, diving terms, but you know, some really sweet trick. Yeah. They should have you on the campaign staff. I mean, I don't know if you take that job. But yeah, that's a good idea. I don't know, buddy, I've been out of work for five months so much as a pay. So yeah, RFK has pivoted. We knew it was going to announce as an independent and he finally did it yesterday. uh this he gave a speech yesterday where issues absolutely did not matter he said me with this quote I'm proud to say that my supporters include both pro lifers and pro choicers they include climate activists and skeptics they included vaccinated and unvaccinated we have the first campaign about nothing yeah right exactly so then what are you yeah what are you going to do for all those people like you know what I mean like if you get in you have all those people how are you possibly going to like perform the duties of the job if you're trying to please both sides of the political spectrum at all times

because somehow you've courted them all. I have a feeling that largely what most of those people have in common is being a little bit crazy in some way or digging crazy shit. Yeah. There were Lerushites there. That might be his new, his actual, you know, target demo. But so we talked last week about how, briefly about how, like, is the poll number show that he takes more away from Trump than it does for Biden,

which obviously because he's campaigning about nothing except grievances, and he's an anti-vaxxer. So, like, if you're an anti-vaxxer, Trump was actually, you know, Trump made the vaccine, kind of. Yeah, right. So, like, the natural home for anti-vaxers is the RFK Jr.'s campaign. And so now Republicans, here's a headline for R&C in full-blown panic mode over RFK Jr. independent run. So he spent the last six, eight months promoting the hell out of this dude, because I thought he was going to run as a Democrat and take votes away from Biden in the primary, damage him. And now it's like, oh, shit, he might cost us the election. Yes.

So it's so funny. I made a video about this today trying to avoid the Israel thing, but also I just think this is funny. Like you said, they spent all that time propping him up and everything as he's running as a Democrat. And now it's like they played a uno reverse card on themselves here. And I find it very, very funny that now he's like in that they're all freaking out. And I know a lot of people on the left are also, you know, a lot of people are pissed still

assuming you will take numbers away from Biden. I'm not trying to like totally discount that possibility. but you know like you said like we talked about last week the polling seems to indicate otherwise and I feel like it might seem counterintuitive at first but when you really like think about it like you look at who are the only people you ever see like really gushing with praise over RFK Jr over sharing his videos or takes he has or something like that it's like it's not Biden voters I don't think it's not liberals you know what I mean it's like conspiracy people it's the tin foil crowd it's you know that's who it is so I mean it does kind of make sense that

he would end up taking more away from Trump. And if that happens, that's hilarious to me. Trump's got to be so mad because in like 2012, 2013, he was openly a vaccine skeptic who was going around saying that maybe he thought vaccines cause autism. And somebody yelled at him that he couldn't have to stop saying that if he wanted to actually run for serious office. So he did. Here comes a guy who stole his fucking lane and now he can't have it back. But yeah, you're right.

Like the Republicans used to have like a monopoly on people that thought that like 5G combined with the fluoride in the water would make you gay. And now here's the guy taking all those voters. And it is pretty funny. Let me read this. The R&C research Twitter account attacked RFK Jr.'s environmental advocacy, is

praise of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, and even attempted to criticize him for a tweet about praising Louis Farrakhan over vaccine safety. Pretty hilarious for the R&C to attack Kennedy for promoting conspiracy theory. The vaccines call autism and push and stole. They're literally criticizing him.

for pushing stolen election narratives. Right. It's like they're criticizing him now for the same things that they brought him on to do in the first place. Or like the reason they were sharing him around in the first place, you know, like exactly the reason he hit for y'all is what they're trying to go after him for now. It's a, I don't know, clown show. Yeah, watching two lunatics fights is always funny. But they also attacked R.K. Jr. on a past comment he made saying that hog farmers are more deadly than Osama bin Laden. Now, I don't have any contact.

for that. I don't need any. You guys have at it. I ain't in this fight. They must be getting some, going back to his back flip that he did, like, they must be, I feel like they must have gotten like some of the best numbers or whatever metrics they've gotten off of the, like him shirtless bench pressing and that type of thing. You know what I mean? Like they must have found something that's like, yeah, they like when you do, you know,

spry athletic shit or take your shirt off or do, you know, wear jeans in the weight room. you're all hit and this is America and you know people you're running against two 80 year olds doing a backflips about the best campaign pitch you can do uh yeah all right our first honorable mention or only honorable mention for daily dumb ass is the deep state for preventing america from hearing lara trump's amazing pipes yeah listen to this well you have to sing us a line here on Aaron, come on. I'll do my best without any music or anything. Okay.

Well, I won't back down. No, I won't back down. You can stand me up at the gates of hell, but I won't back down. I don't have a great ear, but she can't sick, right? No, so I don't know. And I was going to say normally, you know, I get neurotic when we play like clips that have music.

on them because I don't want us to get flagged on YouTube or get taken down or something, but I'm not at all worried in this guy. Even though this is a very popular song, I'm like, yeah, that's fine. You can play that all day. I mean, don't because I don't want people to stab themselves in the ears, but yeah, you could. You could power a small city with the current generated

by Tom Petty spinning in his grave right now, not just because of that she's butchering it, but just also like he would not be down with this shit. Like he was not on y'all's team, dude. He would know. It's like when they play born in the USA and stuff like that

they'll pick these like anthems and almost always the artist comes out and is like please stop doing that I hate you but Tom Petty is unfortunately no longer with us and so here's she goes I'll explain what's going on here

because it's going to pretty cocky but so yeah you're right Tom Petty he actually hit them with a cease and desist and he was still alive because Trump was playing dome back down in as rallies so so Lord Trump

made this one single a cover of Tom Petty's don't back down and she's it's not a hit and she's saying being shadow band yeah

she's saying she's being shadow banned by the deep state and Apple music or something because no one's listening to her stupid fucking song and also she didn't get

the rights to it so maybe they're not playing your song because they don't want to get sued right you can do cover song and it's pretty murky area I usually just ask first

and get permission but obviously she didn't ask but let me quote here I am not quitting my day job and trying to be the next Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston. Good for you. So she tried to buy a billboard in Times Square to promote this song, this launch. And whoever runs the billboard in Times Square wouldn't put up the slogan she wanted

because they thought it was like, I don't know, too political or problematic or whatever. So they just put up her picture. And so it's just a picture of Laura Trump sitting on a horse in Times Square with no context. Speaking of no context, I mean, what, like, what is she, is she trying to have, What's she even trying to do by covering this very famous song by an iconic artist when she herself is not a musician? Like, what's the point or the endgame supposed to be? Like, I don't understand. I don't know, man.

Sometimes when you're like a wealthy guy who outkicks your coverage by getting a pretty way, if she wants to do some fatty project, you just got to say yes to her. Oh, yeah, right, yeah. So yeah Yeah, yeah So she's You know out here We don't need to play

The next Lord Trump video Matt But I do want to get This Trump video in a second Because she's not the only one Of fighting her own pop culture battles Her father-in-law is on one too Here's a clip from a speech you gave

A couple days ago There we go Coming right up It's a vicious thing I said that's silence of the lamb You know what that is Has anybody seen silence Of the lambs?

Hannibal Lecter great an actor was he? So he thinks Hannibal actor's real. Because he said on television on one of the, I love Donald Trump. So I love him. I love him. All right. I love him.

All right. Lots to unpack here. So he thinks Hannibal Lecter's real and as the actor and he thinks Hannibal Lecture supports Trump and that hits for him. Yeah. All right. He's obviously talking about Anthony Hopkins. And Anthony Hopkins never said he liked Trump.

Yeah, I found that. I was skeptical of that too. And I was like, even if that happened, it had to be 30 years ago and some completely the other context or something. So a couple of years ago, he was asked some question about politics, and he made a joke saying that I don't think actors should talk about politics because we're stupid, all right? That's it. Trump remembers that, as Anthony Hopkins say that he loved Donald Trump.

So, I'm sorry. He said he was stupid in public, and we count those. Anyone who publicly can't be stupid, that counts. That counts. Yeah. That's as close as I could tell to political comment about Trump that Anthony Hopkins ever said. Anyway, Anthony Hopkins isn't Hannibal Lecter. So that's a lot.

Yeah. So anyway, do you remember a couple weeks ago when Ron DeSantis uses a clip of Patrick Bateman from American Psycho in a pro Desanthus context compared to, they love serial killers, man. They fucking love serial killers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, they're mostly white, you know, narcissists. No women. Yeah.

Yeah. All that stuff. They get away with shit, usually. They think of themselves as being, you know, brilliant. They outsmart everybody. So, I mean, yeah, it kind of checks out. Trump knew the guy from the jinx, right? Bobby, what's his name?

Robert, you know what I'm talking about? Durst or? Bob Durst, yeah. So, like, how many sore killers do you think Trump's don't in his life? Oh, yeah, that's why, yeah, especially because, you know, he fucked around with Epstein and, you know, there was, you know, they had a whole serial killer wang of that little group, I would imagine, you know what I mean? It was a long island serial killer that worked for Trump. Remember, we talked about a couple weeks ago. and then Bob Durst and Diffrey Epstein

and like yeah he's got he probably would be hang out he probably did hang out Patrick Bapen in the 80s if he existed he also at the end of that video he says like he's like I don't care if he was the worst actor in the world I'd still love him because he said he loved me or whatever and that's just like that's also a good insight into Trump you know what I mean it's like it's literally all you have to do it's just suck up to him or you know kiss his ass compliment him or whatever and he's openly admits that's all it takes

say you love me and do what I say and you'll be all right in my book all right well on to darker topics yeah Israel and Palestine I don't know if you guys heard but yeah it's going down over there

it got really close to really I mean obviously what already happened it has happened not just Saturday and going forward for the response or going backwards you know, 90 years, 85 years or whatever. I wrote the first

version of the outline for this, just so you guys know, is like we usually aimed for like six pages, a little shorter. Otherwise we run over. It was like, 15 pages. And I was like,

okay, we got a lot of shit. Well, there's a lot to talk about. Yeah. So it got potentially even way more dangerous at a brief point on Sunday

where like we're talking like enveloping the whole region and maybe the world. and I don't think people really notice that or if that like notice that how unhelpful a lot of American politicians response to this because it was nothing but fucking bloodthirst and vengeance and a way that's not really helpful

and you and I were talking earlier with like you mentioned the top of the show helping never really want to talk about Israel and Palestine because it's just too much to talk about an hour long podcast from two guys who are half educated about it and there's also no way to talk about it where you can't make everyone mad. Right. Yes. if you're not like firmly on one you know a side or the other and then you'll just piss off like the other half but like I just you know it's real complicated but also like I've seen some people it's on the internet and otherwise like I'm assuming you know hardcore lefties whatever very pro-Palestine people basically implying that like you know pretty much anything that Hamas does is like justified because of the circumstances of you know with Israel and all that and I just like I'm just not even a little bit on board with that.

Like the type of shit that they did on Saturday is like never justified in my mind regardless. And but then on the other side, like they are horrifically oppressed. It is a fucking apartheid and colonialism and all that shit. And that don't hit for me either. But like you just ought not ever be killing women and children parading raped corpses through the streets and that type of thing. I don't care what your ideology is. That's pretty much how I feel about it, generally speaking. but also like we're talking about how there's nobody talking about that making everybody mad if you say you shouldn't kill innocent women and children either side could take that get mad at you for saying that there's unfair criticism right because they both be doing that right yeah so like i firmly come down like you the killing women and children is in unarmed combatants is bad no matter who's doing it and my my main political position is that everyone should be not killed and be able to

live a normal, happy life. Does that seem, if I said anything that's going to make anybody mad yet? So, a couple things out of the way. Neither the Palestinians or the Israelis are their government. Right. Hamas isn't even really a government,

that's a whole complex situation on its own. More context, hundreds of thousands of Israelis took to the streets earlier this year in protest of Benjamin Netanyahu's government and their dictatorial power grabs, and among other things, including their policy with Palestinian and shit.

Presumably, some of those people who are pro-Palestinian were one of the people murdered by the Palestinians. All right, this shit's fucking messy. It's talking about

how much people are their governments. Netanyahu barely hung on to power last election last year. He cobbled together his coalition of right-wing psychos that took 64 out of 120 seats in parliament. Okay,

it's not like he's more popular in Israel before this, and he's likely to be less popular. after this because this was a huge fuck up. Right. On the other side, Gaza has millions of people and Hamas claims about, I mean,

according to Israel, Hamas is about 30,000 soldiers. All right. As far as as how much they reflect the popular will of the people in Gaza, the last election held in Gaza was 17 years ago. All right. So, Hamas, by the way, is an acronym stands for Islamic resistance movement. And the word

itself, Hamas means zeal in Arabic. They're literally saying they're zealots. Right. If you ask Benjamin Nanyahu, he'd probably describe himself as zealots. You've got two groups of people who are largely just want to live their lives who are caught in literal and figured a crossfire between a bunch of fucking people who want war and death. Yeah. I mean, like Hamas, they like, I mean, they openly just want war, right?

And they don't, like, they're not bothered by like civilian casualties, even on their side a lot of times, right? Like, they play, right? Like, their, Hamas is bad. I'm not saying Palestine is, right? Like you said, the Palestinians are not, they're not, it's not the same thing. Like Palestine, I feel bad for the regular people in Palestine, but like Hamas is monstrous in a lot of ways. But, you know, Netanyahu Israel has elevated IDF. Yeah, right.

Netanyahu elevated Hamas's status because they made a convenient boogeyman for him, but he literally made them a negotiating partner with him. Like, he's who he deals with in Gaza. He did this to sideline the Palestinian. any authority because he wanted to handicap their ability to work, push towards a one state, a two state solution, because he doesn't want that. So to divide the Palestinians,

he elevated Hamas. He made them more powerful. So, like, this is like, this is a really cynical operator. There's a bunch of people here that just want war. You're right, Hamas does want a wider war. That's why you shouldn't, we should get to the Iran part of this in the second. You should not take their word for it because what they want, just like

Osama bin Laden intentionally drew us in the Middle East to make us more convenient targets to kill a bunch of Americans, and to damage or staying in the world and suck trillions of dollars out of her economy. And, you know, like, his plan fucking worked because we fell for it. And that's essentially what Hamas is trying to do to Israel. Right. I mean, yeah.

I mean, people have, it's already been compared by a lot of people, Israel and just everybody, too, you know, it's like, this is Israel's 9-11, right? And me and that we're talking about before we start, but a lot of people are saying that. And it's like, you just broke down everything that happened to us after 9-11. It's like, yeah, well, maybe, maybe try to. treated as a bit of a cautionary tale if you can. Right. Like, look at America and how it's like, yeah, no one blamed America for retaliating after 9-11 and they didn't, you know what I mean? It was like seen as totally justified

considering what had happened and whatnot. But then like, look at how everything went after that, you know, a quagmire that like we literally just got out of by fucking everything up completely at the very end two years ago, you know, year or two ago or whatever it was. Like, and that was 20-something years ago. So like keep that all that. And of course, I mean, they've been at war over there for just ever anyway. But, yeah. That's why, like, I'm trying to, like, try to be as dispassion as possible when I talk about stuff like morality, because, like, I want to try to keep this in terms of, like,

what's going to work and what's likely to cause a bad reaction to it. Because I just remember talking about a buddy of mine who was for invading Iraq in, like, 2003. And he was like, you know, he was talking in terms of morality, like, whether, you know, cause us belly or whether they had the, you know, cause a spelly or whether they had right to invade Iraq. And I'm like, I'm not arguing we're in those powerful country of the world. We're going to do whatever we want anyway. It doesn't matter what the UN says. But besides that, is it likely to help? Right. Is that, is it a good idea? Can you argue? Can we debate that? Because it wasn't a good idea. And if like a time to roll back to after

9-11 and be like, I know everyone's mad, this is probably going to make things worse. And it did. And I'm just to be fair. And I'm sure you probably were too. But like, I mean, there were people. And I'm sure there's people in Israel right now doing the same thing. But like, you know, there were people in this country back then saying all that about the Iraq part, at least. You know what I mean? Like that there were plenty of people being like, this is not going to help. This is going to make things worse, you know, whatever. And, you know, bloodlust won out. We're going to get to it a little bit, but there are louder voices in Israel calling for restraint and retaliation than there are in the United States, right? But in going back to your 9-11 thing, like, people were posting the

take about, I understand like, Israelis are fucking pissed, right? I remember how it felt here after 9-11, but someone was like, well, they didn't urge us to use restraint after 9-11. I'm like, well, maybe someone should have. Like, it's like, maybe, because like, Hamas's actions

over the weekend will get to exactly what they did in a minute and without being too, without being graphic. But the, uh, it's not likely to aid the Palestinian cause for freedom. And whatever, what Israel's about to do is the middle of doing, in my mind is not going to make them more safe.

So that's, to me, that's the two things to keep in mind here. So Hamas, basically Saturday, invaded a three-prone invasion in southern Israel, air, sea and land. And we're talking like dingy's, the sea versions like dingy boats and rubber boats. And the air version, they use parachute plane. Like, we're not talking about an air force here. They use parachute planes you can buy off Amazon, where you use the parachute as a, as the wing, and it's got a fan on the back. One guy driving in another guy with the gun on the front, right?

We're not talking about a high-tech fucking operation here. It was time for the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War, which is when Egypt and Syria attacked Israel by surprise in 1973. Yeah, literally, like, on the day of, right? It was like the 50-year anniversary, and it's like that's part of one of the many reasons why this is the scene is such like a major intelligence failure on Israel's part, right? It's like, how, you know, like, you should, you would think they'd be like on alert on a day like that. you know, they'd be having more scrutiny towards this type of thing.

It is like, in one of the 9-11 parallels is like a huge intelligence failure, except it's a way bigger intelligence failure. Gaza is one of the most closely surveilled places on Earth. They literally have sensors in the ground surrounding it so they know when people are digging tunnels or step over the fence. The drone surveilling at 24-7. Nanyahu, his government apparently pulled a lot of troops away from the Gaza border to go to the West Bank to help some settlers do some hate crimes or something.

That's according to like a bunch of anti-left-wing Israeli military veterans who are against the occupation, right? So maybe take it with a great assault. But you've got to when, when enemy soldiers are running amok in your territory for hours upon hours when civilians and there's no defense, you've got to wonder where the fuck was the army. And that's why Israelis are really mad at Yahoo right now too. Right.

um so and egypt by the way says they warned nanyahu that something big was coming um it's just like but so how this happened is going to be a really big question and it's one even one he wants to squash the big war to try to get a rally around the flag effect to save his own fucking ass so like hamas had been openly they constructed a mock Israeli settlement in gaza where they practiced a military landing and trained to storm it and they filmed it and put it on the internet Israel saw it and thought they were just playing around. Right. Like,

that's worse than the people are, uh, Arab immigrants are taking flight lessons with no landing. That's a way bigger red flag than that. Didn't they think that they kind of had them placated with like money for a while? Like they had like economic incentives going with them and stuff like that. I mean, Israel did for,

for, for for people in Gaza. So like Israel says that they thought that like they didn't, you know, that Hamas like actively did not want any conflict at this point in time. or whatnot, and so they give a few token like work permits for people to leave to go to work. It's really like Gaza's not a fun place to live, man. People call it an open-air prison. I don't know that's totally fair, but they're surrounded by a fence.

Israel controls who comes and goes, controls all their trade, limits their access to food and medical care. Only a few people get to work. Millions of people there, right? Like it's not very big. There's two million people. It's like very densely populated. It's the most densely populated area on Earth. Oh, damn.

I don't know that. People pile up on top. of each other. Like, Israel cuts off the food, the water and electricity at whims. Right. So, like, it's pretty easy to radicalize people in that kind of environment. That goes back to the, is this going to work thing? So the death toll, last I saw Israel and the Israeli side was not heard of killed,

including 260 people who were just had amused, like an EDM festival. At least 14 Americans were killed. They took 130, so hostages back to Gaza. Some of them are children. There's also, like, a bunch of disinformation floating around that's trying to make the situation even worse than it is for some reason like there was a report floating around i think even some mainstream news outlets picked up that like hamas militants had beheaded 40 babies and that's not true like well the stuff they did is fucking bad enough man like you don't have to like do that

maybe they maybe somebody did but i don't know i haven't seen documentation of it but somebody just made that up and put it out there and it went a viral and got picked up there was like there's like video game clips going viral people were saying from the war one showed like a helicopter aerosolp that someone claimed was Hamas is from a video game called Arma 3 and like you people think the Hamas has like attack helicopters right like what the fuck plan did people live on

but do you know was that just some random person who posted it and claimed that and it went viral because people believed it versus like right not like a journalist or anything like it's like sensationalism and rumors and shit just like run amok especially in the internet age when something like this happens you know what I mean right but yeah it's they don't

it don't help none of it helps yeah so uh We're out of context here for these, like, so Israel has amassed 300,000 troops, I think saw the number on Gaza's border. They're pounding him into submission beforehand. And, of course, they're saying they're trying to hit Hamas, and these civilian casualties are going to be collateral. But like, if they had good intelligence in Gaza on Hamas, where Hamas was, they probably

would have known they were mounting an invasion, right? So this is the most right-wing government in Israeli history. It has been, they have invaded Gaza. in 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2021. They basically do it every two years. Netanyahu calls it mowing the lawn. That's a routine it is to bomb the shit out of fucking... Yeah, that's pretty rough, knowing that they like officially call that type of excursion,

mowing the lawn. But yeah, at 2020 or COVID obviously made them a missy year. That's tough. I don't know if they were so taken aback. I don't know if they were so taken aback by the Trump, you know, rise in 2016, but yeah, other than 2016 and 2020, it's a biennial thing. It's every other year for almost the last 20 years. I laughed when you said COVID, but it probably, it probably, I just laughed because I thought

it was a joke, but it's probably not a joke. They probably was a huge outbreaking guy because they didn't let them get medicine. They wanted to send troops in there. I mean, I was joking, but yeah, I mean, probably, I bet they were bummed that they had to wait, you know, until lockdowns lifted or whatever to do their, you know. know, a biennial bombing campaign. So talking about what's not going to work. So the first thing to do was cut off all food and water going into Gaza.

The meeting agent got, what is that supposed to do? Like, like, you're going to make people more desperate than they already are. You know what I mean? Like, that's not. How is that going to help? Like, I don't understand. If you think, think it through for half a second, because Hamas is prepared for this, the one they picked the time and place for it.

So they probably saved up food and water. So the median age in Gaza is 19 years old. If you're 19 year old in Gaza, what are you supposed to do to get food and water? The answer is join Hamas. Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that hits for Hamas. It's like you said, because now they can go to these people who are super desperate and give them like an option.

You know what I mean? Like, hey, it's fucked up, right? Your family's starving or whatever. Here's a gun. We'll take care of it type of thing. Yeah. People are going to take them up on that. And I know I'm a fucking bleeding heart, liberal.

but like this idea that this isn't likely to work is not some hippy-dippy thing, like Shin Bet, which is like Israel's intelligence agency is like their domestic CIA that focuses on like combating like for one example of Palestinian terror threat. Here's a report they put out a couple years earlier this year. The head of Shinbet, the Israeli domestic intelligence service, warned Nanjahou earlier this year, the deadly attacks by settlers on Palestinians would increase the security threat to Israel. He was rarely announced by members of Netanyahu's like-good party. one likelihood member of parliament complained. The ideology of the left has reached the top echelons of shin bet.

The deep state has infiltrated the leadership of shin bet and the IDF. So, like, there's, their FBI counterintelligence chief or whatever is like, you're going to make more radicals. This shit's not working. And they called him woke. Woke, yeah. It's just like in this country, like the FBI being woke for a while and that type of thing. You know what I mean? It's a similar situation.

It's like the people who would know when they say something that you don't want to hear, then you just immediately got like discredit. them call them pussies or whatever and then go back to doing what you wanted to do it's like why do you even have them in the first place you know what i mean like what are they there for if you're not going to fucking listen to them on a subject like this the guy that got in that position is probably personally killed or ordered the deaths of hundreds of Palestinians right some fucking soft-ass politician when he tells them it's not their strategy is not going to work is like this guy's a fucking commie snowflake uh so just and go back to the idea that like this could

possibly work like the so the promising hit is Palestinians of Gaza harder than ever but like how much harder can you fucking hit them like they've been hitting them over and over again for like we just listed all the times they've invaded and killed a bunch of people they're constantly bombing them and they were able

to melt the most successful operation they've ever attempted after all that right so like if it didn't work the first time and I know like look I'm not like again I understand Israelis are humans they have a fuck, like, there's a very human thing to want a bunch of revenge.

That's why you need somebody in charge. Right. To find somewhere else to put it to make it productive. And like, do you think about the possible solutions here? You got a two-state solution where Palestine gets to be its own country, which Israel probably finds intolerable because you're going to have, they'll have control their own borders and build a built their own military funded by Iran, for example, right? They held down upon them whenever they want.

So, all right? Then you have a one-state solution where you just let Palestinians be citizens, let them vote, let them have access to benefits and stuff and then everybody tries to live together the problem is it's not going to be acceptable to a lot of zealots on either side the middle part's the hard part where you've got to suffer a bunch of stochastic and organized

terrorism for people who don't want society to make progress and that's really difficult to suffer through. The third solution is Israel kills everyone. Right yeah. So it's like they seem to be committed to slow motion version of the third one and that's the part that I find like not great.

It's worth noting here that, like, Netanyahu is, like, facing three different trials for corruption and almost lost the last election, like I said, to stay in power. He created a coalition with the biggest right-wing psychos in the country, including one guy who literally was ruled ineligible in the, they have, you know, mandatory military service. Yeah, right. This guy wasn't immediately to the IDF because he was too crazy. And now he's, like, in charge? He's in charge of one of the defense ministries. He has a poster on his wall office of a guy who was a mass shooter at a mosque. Bro, what?

That is wild. So the Israeli defense minister, his name is Galant. I might be pronounced that wrong. I said, I have ordered a complete siege in the Gaza Strip. We're fighting human animals and we act accordingly. So far, they've killed at least 830 people in Gaza, injured another 4,300. It includes, depending on your count, between 33 and 100 kid children. It's wild for a Jewish guy in Israel to be, like, so actively dehumanizing the opposition like that, you know what I mean, calling them animals and imply that, you know, they need to be eradicated and stuff.

It's like, this don't remind you of anything else, man. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you guys have been here before on the other side of it, but. I mean, give you another quote here. This is from the Israeli finance minister. His name Smotrich. He was arrested in 2005 when organizing violent nationalist activity, by the way. he said talking about because Palestine took a bunch of hostages for a bunch of reasons one human shields two to trade to get people out of prison right so as a you know prisoner swap um the human shield part's not going to work because according to him quote we have to be cruel now and not consider the captives over much so they're saying they don't mind blowing up their own people if they get to kill some Palestinians too uh so yeah I mean we're talking a lot about Palestinians I mean the Israel here because they have most of the agency because they have all the power

This is not to excuse any of the shit Halas did. Right. The same loss is a small percentage of Gaza. It's just like they don't, most Palestinians have no say in any of this shit. Just like most Israelis don't either. It's just like who's going to decide how many people die going forward? Most of the Israeli government, at least in the short term, medium term. My main point is that Nanyahu's government does not need to be egged on right now.

They do not need to be like how their buddy, their hype man, America in the corner being like, yeah, fuck them up. You know, it's not helpful. Enter American Republicans. Yeah, that's exactly what we do. I mean, sometimes we're in the ring. You know, you want us coming there and fuck him up for you? That's what I'm worried about. You know what I mean?

But like, yeah, you know, we're going to be all over this shit, especially the Republicans. Marker Rubio went on CNN yesterday and call it for pretty much everyone in Gaza to be, quote, eradicated. The context, this does remind me of after 9-11 over here, even though it didn't even happen to us. Senator Ed Markey, you know, Democrat from, was it thing, Massachusetts, was booed by Boston crowd for calling for de-escalation.

He said, maybe we should de-escalate and a crowd booed him. All right. And there's like this thing, this ratching effect that happens. We talked about with like in terms of being soft on crime or tough on crime stuff, or you can't say anything in the other direction. You basically have called like a coward or pussy or whatever. People need to sound tough on television. They saw all kinds of crazy shit.

And it supersedes any other possible response. So if you say like you have two sides of an argument basically like this war will kill tens of thousands and miserate nations, create generations of resentment and ultimately leave everyone far worse and often far less safe. The other side of the argument is can't sound weak. You can't sound weak wins every fucking time. Right. And again, in context, this is going to get a lot of Israelis killed too. This is not like picking aside being pro people being alive is the least popular. died to be on.

Yeah, they're kind of fascination with Israel and undying support for it. It's always been kind of wild to me because, of course, you know, the American right, that's where all the anti-Semites are at. You know, they call them all globalists. They,

like, they don't seem to care overly much for Jews, but fucking love Israel. And that used to always be wild to me, but it's like, I mean, I get, you know,

Israel is surrounded by Muslims who they hate even more than Jews, right? And so, like, that part of all right, like, the book of evangelicals, I was going to say,

like I have known that for a while now, but I didn't always know that part because I'm Bible dumb. I didn't grow up in church. And hearing that part is like, that is so fucking wild. But yeah, a lot of right wing, a lot of Christian conservatives.

It has to do with like bringing about the rapture eventually, right? Like the Jews have to be in Israel and everything for like Jesus to come back at the end of the world and all that shit. It's all like biblical in nature. And that's a big part of why they're so pro-Israel. And that's like that does not hit for me. Like that's crazy. dude. That's so wild. Yeah. I saw somebody

somebody covers Christian nationalism, a conversation from like a mainstream Christian forum where people were debating, well, Israel's at war now. Is that mean Jesus was coming back? Right. And I'm like, these half of Republican congresspeople probably surfed that. Yeah. Right.

So in this context, Roda McDaniel went on TV on Sunday, I'll like meet the press and said, this was this Hamas killing a thousand Israelis, Israeli retaliating kills in a thousand Gazans so far was, quote, a great opportunity for Republicans. And then just here's Donald Trump talking about this, I think, earlier today. And now it even pertains to Israel what happened yesterday. It was incredible.

I mean, well, so many people killed. I don't know. So remember after the poll shooting when Trump tweeted, appreciate the congrats? No. because you know he's done so much other shit but like congrats from who nobody in particular he just said appreciate to congrats like he was right about muslims because one shot up a nightclub in florida or something um it's like the the coughity of the republican response has been either to blame Biden for shit Hamas too or to like say that we should go to like guys is like

25 miles long and five miles wide Israel does not need our assistance to fuck him up Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not sure who we're supposed to like go to war with. But anyway, let's go round up of like the responses so far. Tim Scott said Joe Biden funded these attacks on Israel. J.D. Vance that Americans must face a stark truth or tax dollars funded this. I'm going to explain to this in a second. Trump said sadly American taxpayer dollars help fund these attacks, which many reports are saying come from the Biden administration. It sounds like he's saying the Biden administration not plan the attacks. Rick Scott and Vivek Ramaswami, both echo these sort of claims. So these two big lies they're pushing are the ones that Hamas use weapons that we gave to Ukraine, which doesn't make any sort of sense. If you know anything about any of these nations' politics or agendas, one, Iran and Russia are allies, if that matters, and Iran's ally with Hamas, so why Ukraine would fund, you know, get arms to a country. Help out the allies of Russia. yeah right yeah um also ukraine needs the weapons we sent them that's why they asked for them they're not going to like give them away um also ukraine has been soliciting israeli support and while nanyahu's been kind of winking at russia because he fucking sucks so he loves russia

uh if it matters at all the russian russia's foreign minister recently met with hamas and by the way u.s senator josh holly is called for redirecting u.s aid from for ukraine to Israel as if like the kind of weapons that would actually help this situation would be defensive weapons like you create like Israel has an iron dome that stops a lot of rockets coming in yeah I'd be all for supplying stuff like that because it would reduce Israel's need to escalate like Hezbo lobbed a few rockets in yesterday they were mostly stopped and as a show of solidarity with with with Abbas and Gaza but isn't Israel like fully fucking loaded anyway like They're strapped hardcore already, right, because of their long-standing relationship with us and everything.

Like, they don't, they don't really need anything from us for all this right now. They have F-16s, tanks, nukes. They got everything to go. They got the fourth, they got the fourth most powerful military in the world. The other big lie that they're pushing is that Iran funded this with this $6 billion that we just gave them in exchange for releasing our hostages. One, we didn't give them $6 billion. All right. that's what all the quotes listed above were about that conspiracy theory what happened was in exchange for freeing hostages the trump administration had let iran sell some oil back when they were in office but the money was kept locked in a bank account in south korea we released the bank account the funds to go to a different bank account overseas by the u.s treasury where the money can only be used for food and medicine like to buy medicine food medicine directly handed out and they're going oh money's fungible that frees up money

money to spend on weapons. I'm like, I'm not sure if you're giving that Iranian government too much or too little credit. Like, you're saying they would let their people starve and buy weapons if we didn't,

or whether you're saying they wouldn't do that, therefore we free up the weapons. I'm not sure, it's so cynical, I can't even fucking, the Iranian regime fucking sucks. But I'm saying like, there's non-humanitarian reasons to give your people food and medicine,

like, for example, so they don't overthrow you and put your heads on bikes. Right. Right. Anyway, not a dollar, whether money's fungible or not, not a dollar of it has been released yet. Right. It's straight up not true.

But that's like to do this, I'll take something where it's like something that kind of sort of is related to what they're saying happened that actually did happen. In this case, $6 billion of Iran's own money that we unfroze for only specific purposes and then sometime in the future. But then they take that and just use it to say, we gave around $6 billion, which led to these weapons being purchased by Hamas. and that's Joe Biden's fault. And they can just do that with a straight face. And it works, you know, like, just like the straight up say shit that isn't true. And it doesn't matter because that's what people on their side want to hear. So they hear it, never question it at all, just get pissed and continue with their day.

These people are like, America's too powerful to have these people put in charge of it, any way, shape, or form. It's like, this is dangerous fucking shit. And like the most dangerous point of this weekend, when we're talking about Iran, So Wall Street Journal Heather's report. Let me read from it. Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas' Saturday surprise attack on Israel and give the green light for the assault at a meeting in Beirut last Monday, according to senior members of Hamas. Okay, a couple things. One of the reporters with the bylaw on this story was previously fired from another job for making up stories.

All right. Secondly, Hamas wants a bigger war, like I pointed out earlier. why are you taking Hamas's word for it that Iran also needs to be attacked because Israel would itch to nuke fucking Iran over some shit like this Israel nuke attacks Iran that's going to be a legit war

so now we have to come in on Iran side okay so on the Israel side Israel side sorry and then yeah and Iran's allowed Russia right now's where we're not shooting war with Russia so that means NATO's activated so Europe's at war like this is like don't

Just go saying shit like that, Wall Street Journal. All right? So Washington immediately pushed back so they saw no sign of any Iranian involvement. I don't understand where Iran's at right now, why they would want to do this. I don't doubt that some small part of the Iranian defense intelligence apparatus could potentially be involved in something like this. That doesn't necessarily, like if the CIA does some shit, that doesn't mean the, you know, the National Parks Department was in on it. Do you know what I'm saying? Right.

So, but like, Iran quickly denied it and Israel also said they saw no links between the two. And I was like, whew, thank fucking God. Even if they're all lying, this is a very good lie to be telling because there's no coming back from there. Right. But the general Republican position here seems to be like the threat for Hamas, again, an army of 30,000 people with rifles, is so dire we need to divert all foreign aid from Ukraine. Also, it's no big deal that they blocked all these roles from being filled. There's current no U.S., there's no ambassador in Israel, Egypt, Lebanon, Oman, Kuwait, no confirmed top USAID official for the Middle East for three years and no State Department

coordinator for counterterrorism for the last two years. This is because of Tommy Tuberville, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and a couple others, is holding up mass slates of appointments just out of fucking spite. ambassadors matter this is how shit like this gets de-escalated is by having people in those towns you can go shake hands and talk to people and have heart to hearts and i remember talking to somebody when trump got elected about how dangerous it was just he was hauling out the state department the brain drain from chasing the air quote deep state out of everything it's going to mean more wars for generations because you don't have any sort of expertise as far as how to get out of this

situation like if these psychos have been in government during the Cuban missile crisis The war, the war, oh, God, damn, dude. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, you know, blame in Biden at the same time that their policies and obstructionism as everything is actually making it all worse, you know. Foxx knew to the segment today talking about these vacancies like Biden just never nominated anybody. Right.

He's really blaming him for the Senate not approving an ambassador to Israel. So in the context of all this, Tommy Tuberville's fucking dipshit ass, he fought a police report against the former CIA directed for a mean tweet. Michael Hayden, somebody said that Tommy Super Bowl should be removed from his committee. And General Michael Hayden, who used to like, again, forward director of CIA, quote tweeted with, how about the human race? And he reported it as a death threat.

What a goddamn baby. All right. All these people are incompetent. The Army is telling Congress to please do your job, meaning find a speaker of the House and start approving these bills to have aid because the world is at a dangerous place. We need to, like, arm Ukraine. and figure out what Israel needs to make it feel safer so it doesn't fucking, you know,

turn the rest of the Middle East into sheet glass. And Kevin McCarthy used this moment to say he's open to return to the speakership because the world desperately needs Kevin McCarthy. Clearly. Just as a show of how unsurious Republicans are about how the U.S. conversations all bluster, no nuance. You read more sensible takes in Israeli newspapers. is here's Heretz, Israel's newspaper record, quote, Israel can't imprison two million

gauzes without paying a cruel price. You would not see that opinion in American newspaper. And here's Israel's New York Times printing this opinion piece. Here's another editorial in Heretz. The disaster that it befell Israel today is a clear responsibility of one person, Benjamin Nanyahu. The prime minister completely failed to identify the dangerous he was conspicuously leading Israel into an establishing a government of annexation and dispossession while embracing a foreign policy that openly ignored the existence and rights of

Palestinians. In Israeli, he was literally just shot at, spent the day running from Hamas, says there's nothing they can justify what's happened. Absolutely. Yet I know that what they've been through, I've heard their stories when so much hate builds up in you, this is the outcome.

Desperate people are dangerous. Yeah. A woman who was just shot at by the bad guys that Marco Rubio was screaming about has a more sensible take about what it will take to get out of the situation. than any American politician I've heard talk about it.

Right. Because it sounds like she actually has experiences with the people on the other side, you know, like on a personal level. Like she's actually talked to them and spent time with them and stuff like that.

And, you know, when you do that, you tend to be more empathetic. It breeds understanding eventually. But, and then, yeah,

but then you have people like Marco Rubio probably never stepped foot over there and don't know shit about it. Talking about how everybody needs to be eradicated. Yeah. Not good. It's like, like,

throwing this out. Like, we've done the same thing over and over and over again for close to a century. Maybe something different. That's my wild pitch. I don't know what it is. I just know maybe something different. And thoughts and prayers to the people, the powerless people on

both sides of this conflict who are going to be killed by their fucking governments and militias. So it's just like just so stupid. Yeah. And I got feeling it's probably probably going to get worse for it gets better, I would imagine. So yes. I wish. the best

but yeah like you said thought's important but I don't pray I hope everybody I just hope that it doesn't get too bad don't know what else to say

but Netanyahu goes to prison you get a sensible leadership who finds some path to negotiate find an honest negotiating partner somewhere in Gaza they can deal with

to get the more humanitarian aids that are less radicalized and find them ways to have actual jobs in lives and medicine and then less Israelis will die

you know less Ghazans will die that's Americans will die because it won't radicalize fucking Al Qaeda this shit you know so like it's just good groups like Al Qaeda yeah all right

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