Weekly Skews - Weekly Skews 10/12/2021 – Tennessee Juvenile “Justice”

Episode Date: October 13, 2021

We return after a week off to sift through a cavalcade of dumbasses to lighten the mood before welcoming Senior Legal Correspondent Drew Morgan to discuss one of the most infuriating criminal justice system cases you’ll ever hear, out of, where else, Trae’s home state of Tennessee. Support the show

Hello there, everybody, welcome back, and for the first time in two weeks, happy skews day to you. It's October 12, 2021. I'm Trey Crowder, and that's Mark Aegee. Look at us back together again. What's up, Mark? Yeah, we were, I would go on two weeks. I had to work two weeks ago, and last week, Trey was shooting some big fancy Hollywood shit. so he wasn't available.

And we were going, my wife and I went to the Los More set concert at the Hollywood Bulls, so it was nice to have a night off for that. Fire show, and it's great to be back on another banner day for your Las Vegas Raiders train. Yeah, yeah. You know, things are always coming up, writers, man. It's been great being a writers fan for the past 20 years,

just a continuous parade of success. And, you know. Digging to me. Lodding. Yeah. Yeah, obviously. No, yeah, as everybody I'm sure is aware, the head coach of the Raiders, John Gruden, had a treasure trove of past emails came to light, wherein he really hit for the bigotry cycle, just really left no papal stone unturned. One of the best things I saw about was an onion, I think, headline that said John Gruden apologizes to the Jews for not offending them in his emails, because that's pretty much the only group he did not offend. end or use slurs in reference to or what, how do you?

So, you know, that was, that's fun. I know a lot of the viewers zone out. We talk about sports. This is not really about sports. This is about workplace power issues, bigotry, and, you know, politics, which, you know, they're basically three big things we talk about here. And if you need a political angle to connect it, the, John Gruden's emails were to Bruce Allen, who is the brother of George Allen,

who you might remember was a Virginia politician who was governor and U.S. Senator, lost, ran for Senate again. And that election campaign, he called an Indian dude and maca twice on camera, which is a term for a monkey. And he tried to play it down.

He lost that race by 8,000 votes. It's fair to say it swung it. And he tried to downplay it by saying that he was a term of indicted. Deerment that he and his friends used for people they didn't know. It was like saying dude or homie or something, which is like transparently not true. But it reminded me of what these, all these dudes say, because it was a Gruden say when the first patch e-mails came out when he made fun of a black guy for having big, he said he had lips like

Michelin tires, and we, look, anybody is familiar with old dude racism knows we's going for there, but he tried to say that he said people who lie have rubber lips, which is a thing. He spent hours and hours talk on TV, and no one's ever, no one else has ever heard that expression before so um yeah he he if you're not familiar with emails he uh he called roger goddell a gay slur that starts with the letter f uh also called him a pussy he may he may said everyone who kneeled to be run out of the league complain about women being hired for uh to work in the NFL of officials and coaches uh he yeah yeah he did a whole bunch of stuff the one thing i'll also say about it he had as soon as it came out i was like well he gone and he was gone like hours later and

deservedly so but one thing it's kind of fun if there's anything funny about the whole fucked up scenario it's that all those emails were found as part of an investigation that was being done into the Washington football team and their ownership and Dan Snyder into some very serious allegations about them like taking cheerleaders on overseas trips and then taking their passports away for them and putting them on auction to these other rich dudes and shit like possible human trafficking shit and a whole lot of really bad stuff that's what they were investigating and so far the only thing to have happened is that the raiders coach got fired or lost this or like leave it to the raiders to take a loss as part of an investigation that ostensibly did not even involve them but it won't surprise me at all if dan snider because he's an owner and writes the checks you know never sees any real outcome or consequences in this at all we talked about workplace power stuff yeah dude gruden had to go absolutely because like he is coaching a team that has the first NFL player had ever come out of the closet.

Carl Nassive, who's been really good this year. And so you can't have him, you think you can't have him having power over this dude's career. It's just not transparently not fair. But also from workplace power, Gruden's just an employee. And they found a fall guy to save Dan Snyder's ass who doesn't even work for his own team. It's like, this is just rich.

It's all, it's all rich dudes covering their ass all the way down. And it just like, it goes uphill to a point. where it stops eventually. But the stat I saw was like they've obtained 650,000 emails and, of course, this investigation. And the only ones that got leaked were the ones from John Gruden, we didn't even see the replies to it from the Redskins, the, well, the Redskins said, the football team side.

Because it's like, in those the emails in which Gruden insulted the commissioner. Yeah. What's this? Right, exactly. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I'm fully with you on that. But, you know, again, we're just...

From a real world side about what would bigotry actually cost people, the ringer had a good article today talking about, like, how you guys might be better off football-wise, because Bruden, if you look at his track record, we'll never play one black quarterback, and that was Sean King who inherited when he took over the bucks. He hasn't had a black coordinator for 20 years, and this is in the league where three out of the four coordinators in Super Bowl last year were black.

Like, he had one woman strength coach who he put, pushed out after a year. Like, it's like, you got, it's been costing talent. Like, you're robbing yourself by being a bigot, which is the, the fuck. There's a lesson in this for, if any bigots are watching. Yeah. Oh, I definitely think it could end up working out, you know, for the Raiders. I mean, it ain't like they've been sitting the woods on fire, you know, so whatever.

Yeah. It's fine. Anyway, uh, so, um, at with us is always his producer, Matt. This is weekly skews first. And remind you, if you're vaccinated, I didn't want to see me live. You go to well read comedy. for tickets we will be at one of our favorite clubs in the country next weekend in our nation's capital the dc improv october 21st to 24th hope to see y'all there okay as for the show tonight

we will be joined by senior legal correspondent drew morgan for a story out of tennessee that sees my levels of disappointment in my home state reach heretofore unseen heights at least until the next horrific story breaks that is what is it well it involves carons in charge and small children in jail and is somehow even worse than it sounds. But before that, we will keep the mood light as we dive into everybody's favorite segment, the Daily Dumbass. Matt, graphic, please. Tonight's first DD, this anti-vax protester in Los Angeles on Saturday, for thinking she could scream out some shit in front of the homeless people on Hollywood Boulevard and not get a response from them. Listen closely, everybody, to this clip.

that play it. Okay. Okay. Okay. In case you see all these homeless people around? Are they dead in the streets for COVID? Hell no. Why? Why? Where are the biohazard? Bins for these masks? Okay. In case you missed it because it's sort of hard to hear. It's truly tremendous. This lady says, you see all these homeless people out here? Are they all dead in the streets from COVID? No. why and then presumably a homeless man yells out because i'm vaccinated you dumb fuck which is just wonderful yeah just because somebody doesn't have a house to me and they're fucking idiot yeah exactly but the context here um if those you don't live in l a man and bany or like hollywood barred's not a place people to live here go uh it's exclusively homeless people and tourists

And that's how you know that lady's not from here. She's down there annoying homeless people and tourists with their anti-vax bullshit. Yeah, wild times, man. It's like, I'd never get tired of seeing these people get owned because, like, they're, they're fucking, their worldview is so myopic and stupid that, like, they just, when they're confronted with any basic reality, it's like, just immediately crumble. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, our first honorable mention for Daily Dumbass is anybody who missed out on AmpFed.

The Florida right-wing Coachella event, that's right. If you're wondering what the hell did that look like, well, let's take a look at it. Matt, play the clip here. it doesn't even right it doesn't even right also they couldn't get eric clapton you know i thought this was his whole beat now right because that's the thing it's like the things they have to convince themselves they're into i feel like where art is concerned because their options are so limited clearly because the vast majority

of artists and creatives uh are not anti-vax lunatics so next thing you know you're dancing to some horseshit vaccine wrap in a tent in fucking Florida or whatever and pretending like it's a Kendrick Lamar show or something. Yeah, well, a keyboard beat from a Cassio, he just pissed the, you know, when you return to beat on and press it. And then go Johnson and Johnson, modern and Pfizer. I'm going to take it. Yeah.

Yeah, no. It's like, what are we doing here, man? I don't know. It just steals something to ruin it. I guess that's white people's log line, I guess. Just the idea of a right-wing Coachella is kind of hilarious. Do you know what I mean? It's like, that's not, how do you make that work?

You know, like, what is the right-wing version of Coachella? It's just like CPAC or whatever is what the actual thing is, right? Like, you can't go to a hit and music festival and have a good time while being what they are. Because they don't like that times. Good times, not their thing. thing you know also you can go to music fest like like the woodstock 99 it wasn't some left wing event it's corn olympiscuit you can uh just like these people robbed themselves so much by making their whole identity just uh you know i mean there's a guy at the uh lost more set

concert with a fuck joe biden shirt he's to let himself enjoy some decent tunes you know he wasn't like making himself listen to more shit uh all right so our next honorable mention is uh for Daily Dumbass is anybody who didn't get the vaccine because now you don't have cracking blood like the rest of us. I hope you're happy. That's right. We got little tentacle monsters in our bloodstream now from the vaccine and you don't. So I hope you feel proud. There's a GOP lawmaker, a New Hampshire state representative Ken Weiler who shared some wild conspiracy theories about the coronavirus involving Satan, the Pope and 5G as well as tentacle creatures lurking in the vaccine. He said if you look at the vaccine under the microscope, you can see little

multi-armed demons in the vaccine floating around. I don't know what they're supposed to be doing once they get in there. I guess they, you know, they're all little magnetos, which is how we get magnified or something like that. Or they're all little IT demons, maybe. That's how the 5G aspect comes. I'm not really clear on how the details work. But yeah. We all got crackings in. I like the idea of like the Pope, Satan, you know, tentacle monsters from anime porn, like all like teaming up in like a suicide squad like mission. Like we have nothing common, but we're going to do this to enslave humanity or something.

It's like what a, what a fucking dirty dozen odd couple of cast of characters. It's also funny because apparently it was full of anti-Catholic bigotry, which as I understand it, that's a pretty old school, that's a pretty old school bigotry there, right? Like, that used to be a whole thing in America, I guess, where Catholics were, like, second. It was like a big deal when JFK was elected because it was a Catholic president or some shit. But, like, a man still holding the fucking fuck Catholics line in, uh, in 2021. It's just, yeah, he's really kicking it old school. He is 79, though.

Yeah, I mean, uh, who, have there been any other Catholic presidents between, uh, Biden and JFK. I don't know if they ever have, but it wasn't no idea. I don't think it I run through my mind real quick, and now I can't think of any. And the idea that, I mean, the idea was that like because Catholics are all supposed to listen to the Pope

if you like to JFK, then you basically be elected the Pope president, which was dumb because if you ever met a Catholic, none of them really listening to the Pope. But the idea, yeah, the clan was riffly anti-Catholic. I mean, that was, this

is basically when back before Irish and Irish and Italian were considered white. So there's all sorts of paranoia about that kind of shit too. But yeah, I can't be able to say it's like, they're just like when they said they're going to take

America back to the olden days, they're just like they're including like prejudices from like 1930 which rule. Right. I know it's like the only to some of these people the list of people who are all right by them is literally just whoever is exactly the same thing that they

are like it's not even just other white people or other Christians you got to be the right type of white Christians specifically or you also are a bag of shit to say nothing of all the Muslims and immigrants and gays out there that goes without saying but even fucking Catholics they need to get their shit together too it's just like it's just like enhanced bigotry you know yeah also I want some fucking tentacles yeah I know that's what I'm saying I want your dog city is speaking yeah I had to walk three dogs I could have used a couple extra hands an extra arm, my egg, carrying groceries up, you know. Sex probably be a lot more phone more hands, too. Come on.

Yeah, dude, like you mentioned earlier, you know, there's plenty of porn out there that proves that thing. Producer Matt has pointed out tonight is the first Seattle crack and hockey game, by the way. Coincidence? Yeah, certainly. Absolutely it is. But anyway, okay, let's see.

What do we got next here? Next up, uh, dump for dumbass. Bebop and Rock Steady for not putting a stop to such government way. I love this. You remember what happened in Arizona. 5.7 million spent on the Ninja Turtles who were going through all these ballots, and the net result was more votes for Biden, fewer votes for Trump. Is it, is he just like being purposefully condescending about them?

Do you know what I mean? Like the cyber ninjas, like is that what he's doing? Or is this just a genuine, like, gaffe or whatever, you think? I think it was just a brain fart. But what's funny is he's too old. He's even been into the Ninja Turtles. So maybe his grandsons love the Ninja Turtles, and that's what Madame in his brain.

But, yeah, but, I mean, honestly, like, Ninja Turtles is a better name for him. They don't know shit about Cyber. And it took them forever, am I right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're not new ninjas either, though, you know?

Just turtles. I mean, at least they're passingly familiar with what ninjas are. These guys can turn a computer on for the first time last week, I think. So if they've seen Ninja Turtles, they're more qualified to be Ninja Turtles than they are to conduct a forensic audit at an election. Yeah. All right. Next up, honorable mention here, Mansion and Cinema for thinking they can ever possibly negotiate with this shit. Maria, we know that the buildback better agenda has become the Biden buildback broke.

agenda. And the American people have figured out that what they're trying to do is institutionalize socialism. They're trying to do a takeover of the country in one vote. They want government control of your kids. They want to look at your bank account for every transaction over $600. Anything that you do on Venmo in PayPal, they want a part of that transaction. They want government control of health care. They want to demoralize the military. close the churches, destroy your faith in the American system, and then here they're going to come with the socialist program to run your life from cradle to grave, daylight to dark. Unbelievable.

Senator Marsha Blackburn from where else, Tennessee there. We've talked about her plenty of times before. A proto-Caron, she is just truly. Yeah, like the idea that that person who interprets this legislation that way and feels that way about it, that you could, you know, come to the table with a couple of line item adjustments or whatever, and she would be like, oh, okay, well, now I'm in. You know what I mean? There's not, there's nowhere to go from that.

Somebody who's crunched the numbers about why America's falling apart. And basically like in like well-developed social democracies, like they spend about half their budget on like what you call human infrastructure. like health and welfare education medicine and stuff like that America spends about 15 percent so like you're just trying to help people out with child care reasons people aren't having kids we don't have enough kids in America and uh she's you call it socialist for you just push ahead and do it man you're calling you socialists no matter what and as proof I've mentioned a couple times but I saw this old news blurbler floating around and I'd mentioned before about how they when I now tried to build interstates they called them socialists this is a guy

who defeated the fucking Nazis with the army general Manion blast Ike's policies is socialistic. And planet's manucused president I was nowadays nowadays of pushing a drift towards social government, central government, which he once abhorred and feared is a danger of democratic government. He cited his examples of the president's new highway program, which he termed a form of creeping socialism patterned after the Tennessee Valley Authority. Now, this is extremely funny for a couple of reasons. One, they tried to privatize the Tennessee Valley Authority a couple years ago. Marshall Blackburn was horrifically against it because, and I quote, it would drive prices up. so I don't want to fucking do

what to do about these people man so maybe this is just me like trying to be somewhat optimistic but I'm almost like that shit about Eisenhower and the response he got from the far ride or whatever back then is almost kind of makes me feel

a little bit better in a way because it's like they've always been doing this shit like we've said before it's like dude you just know if somebody if fire departments didn't exist and they got pitched tomorrow these lunatics would be like that's some socialist bullshit or whatever that's like a talking point that gets brought up a lot that I have always subscribed to but like knowing that they were doing it even then or like you've

talked before about like when seat belts seatbelt laws and that first became a thing it's like they hated that then too but in all those instances eventually it didn't matter you know the things happened we got past it they found another car to chase or whatever embark at and and everybody moved on. So, like, hopefully that will happen here, too, eventually, you know, we'll just push past it in spite of them and get where we need to be one day. They'll move on to the next thing. Actually, like, to be positive for a second, I saw this take today where somebody was like,

the real takeaway from the current political moment is that the over one majority of Democratic Party is full on in for saving some sort of social democracy, and there's only a handful of moron standing in their way. Now, these happen to be a handful of very powerful morons. instead of my Joe Mansion. But for the most part, the parties in the National Party anyway is arrived at the right conclusion.

Yeah, right. A few fucking asshole holdouts and some pretty dark population trends that are like are really holding us back here. So people are coming after Mansion and cinema demanding, you know, accountability or responses

as to why they're holding this up and what it would take. To get them there, apparently people like kayaked out to Manchin's boat the horror you know he got accosted while on his fucking boat uh and uh people met cinema in the airport and we're you know asking her questions asking her to just you know illustrate what her stance actually is is it this you have a problem with is it elder care is it this is at this and of course she just wouldn't answer any of it and hit took refuge in a bathroom or whatever so that this shit has been happening and joe biden was asked about it

And Matt, if you could play the Biden clip, that would be... Mr. President, you're talking about how you have 48 Democratic votes right now. The other two have been pressured over the weekend by activists. Joe Manchin had people on kayaks show up to his boat. T.L. Adam. Senator Sinema last time was chased into a restroom. Do you think that those tactics are crossing a line? I don't think they're appropriate tactics, but it happens to everybody.

from the only people that doesn't happen to are people who have secret service standing around them. So it's part of the process. I mean, first of all, she wasn't, like we were off last week when this is a big deal, so apologize if we're coming back to something you guys are already over. But like, she wasn't chased into the bathroom. They tried to talk to her as she ran into a bathroom.

Right. They were trying to talk to her. These are grassroots activists who canvass for her who did a lot of work to get her elected in close election, who she's ghosted so she took office and the context she teaches a class at a college is where they found her. She's the class

on fundraising. She's teaching the class on how to deal with lobbyists and she won't talk to her own fucking constituents. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, and they of course jumped all over Biden's response here too, be like, oh, that's just supposed to be normal people harassing it. But it's like they're offended at the idea that these people should

have to answer to their constituents and the people that voted them in, you know, they're like, they're public servants. These are the people they represent asking them for answers. They're not being held at fucking gunpoint or anything. It is part, it should be part of the process. The idea that like

anybody's supposed to be like crying over the, you know, the, the treatment that these poor senators are receiving on their fucking boats. Like, it's just such horseshit. Every United States Senator and Congress

should be required to spent a whole day a week in their home district in a fucking dunk tank. These are public servants. They work for us and they fucking suck. They're not your god kings. You don't worship them. They treat them how, like, being annoyed in public

is something we all go through and we're not, we're not paid off the public dole by taxpayer money. And she, those activists who were trying to talk to her about the, the girls trying to talk to cinema about her grandparents being deported. and cinema's running away from her. They tried to meet at her office, but she's essentially shuttered all her district offices, and she doesn't go there anyway.

So, like, she's not doing her fucking job. And that's not talking pass the bills. You can explain your constituents why you don't want, why you don't agree with them or whatever, but. Yeah.

You should have to. You should be forced to explain that shit, you know? Yes. Let alone not be sympathized with because, uh, you refuse to in public and act like you're being harassed and mistreated. because someone has that expectation of you. Yeah, it's fucking stupid.

All right, well, let's move into the main segment. Do you want to sort of set it up a little bit before we bring Drew out here to discuss it? Yeah, so ProPublica had a pretty infuriating long read the other day about this school district slash county in Tennessee where this one woman is basically, an emperor of the child criminal justice system, and she's been locking up 50% of the kids that come in front of her, as young as seven fucking years old. And no amount of federal lawsuits apparently can make her change her ways. And Drew was mad about this.

And if you don't know, Drew, he's a former, he's a lawyer. Lawyer by trade used to be before he went to the comedy full time. He was a public defender in Miami and Knoxville. And he's got a lot of anger about criminal justice issue. So we thought to bring him on to help us walk through this story. Bring in Drew, Matt. All right. Drew, friend of the show.

What's up, everybody? Hi. Tour partner. Come see us, well-read comedy tour. It'll be a lot funny. Thank you. I was going to ask you to plug that at the end, but we can still do that too. You're doing a hell of a job.

My man out here selling us. All right. So, yeah, Mark mentioned, so this is Rutherford County, Tennessee, the geographical center of Tennessee, is where Murfreesboro is. And the statewide average for children who have like a juvenile court issue, the statewide average for how often they actually go to jail or lock up or juvie is 5%. And in Rutherford County, it's 48%. So yes, nearly half of the time they're locking kids up, most of whom, not all, but predominantly these are black kids. And again, when we say kids, we're not talking about 16 year olds out graffiti shit and stuff like that, them, two, but fucking seven, eight, nine-year-olds. And so pretty horrific, Drew. I don't know where you want to start, but just get into it.

Well, there's two things to look at here, which is this lady and the people she surrounds herself with, in other words, this case, which is pretty horrific. And I guess we should start there and we will. And then the macro, which is how does this happen, how did it continue to happen in spite of numerous whistleblowers, and what else is going on? world. Is this an anomaly? I do think she's probably one of the more egregious cases we've seen, but I don't think she's an anomaly, which is part of why I asked to come on the show is I need people to understand that a lot of what's going on in our country right now, whether it be Republicans

appointing judges all the way down to people like this lady who failed the bar four times, but was appointed by a local politician. Republicans have done a great job recognizing and then utilizing the judicial system for what it is, which is a borderline democracy-proof power, an entity of power. And it's extremely frustrating when I talk to my friends on the left when both died in the world of Democrats seemingly

and people further left than that don't seem to understand how important this stuff is. It was my big thing, the last election. I didn't love Joe Biden, but I was screaming at the top of my lungs to anybody that would listen to me, we have to stop Republicans from appointing judges. So we'll get into the macro. Let's get into the micro. So this lady, and I've forgotten her name, honestly.

Donna Scott Davenport. Thank you. Ms. Davenport, as I mentioned, had failed the bar four times, took her nine years to pass it. She gets appointed in Rutherford County to be basically a magistrate in the juvenile, detention places, a magistrate is somebody, usually what they'll do is, let's say, arrest warrants are needed. And someone comes to a magistrate and they say, this is what happened. Can I get an arrest warrant? The magistrate will go, yes, someone broke the law, or they'll go, they didn't quite break the law there. They do other stuff, but that particular

duty will come to head in this case. She eventually becomes the appointed judge and head over the juvenile system when that is bifurcated off, I want to say in the late 90s, early 2000s. It was August 2000, and she was actually elected, but she was, her opponent was a major in the sheriff's department who was later charged with sex crimes against minors, the guy that was running against her for a juvenile court judge. And he got probation for that, by the way, ultimately. But anyway, so she won that election. And she hasn't been a lot of sense.

I just want to point out here these are seven-year-olds being punished with jail time because this lady says people need to suffer consequences for their actions here's a guy that molested kids that got probation

because he was a cop this is the same fucking county judicial system so it drives me insane so what I was I guess tried to express is this lady's whole career started out because she was

appointed by a friend of hers or whoever it was which gives her the experience to run in the first place I genuinely don't believe this lady wins that first election I mean she would have maybe against that guy, but she probably wouldn't even been a viable candidate had it not been

for the fact that she gets appointed in spite of her failings as a human being inside the justice system. So she becomes a personality. She starts going on her own radio shows there locally. She starts doing all that stuff and she's getting reelected on this campaign of, we've heard it before, law and order, tough on crime. There were examples in this article that came out of people thanking her publicly, appointed, appointed politicians, excuse me, elected politicians, thanking her publicly for, and I'm paraphrasing here, making kids wear belts in court and pull their pants up. Yeah. She's real big into that whole thing. That's kind of her whole thing is like, she frames it as, you know, raising these kids right or whatever, like their wayward children

that she is correcting, course correcting. That's how she looks at it. And that includes like, Yeah, you got to pull your pants up. You got to wear a belt. You got to tuck your shirt in. And she's like, and she's always talking about how terrible it all is. She's like, and, you know, she's like, oh, it's worse now in Rutherford County that's ever been this scourge of unruly children, she means. And then she specifically is quoted as saying, my nine and 10 year olds, it's unbelievable. It's worse than this, you know, I'm seeing a lot of aggression from my nine and 10 year olds that she's putting in jail. And when she says my nine and 10 year old, it's worth noting she calls herself the mother of the county. uh so she really thinks she's raising all these people's kids even though she's taking away a lot of their fucking kids um there was a court there's a court case where she got overruled like she she took away custody of someone's kids a higher court overruled her and when the case got sent back to her she took the kids away again and urged the couple to final she gave them to to finalize the adoption real quick to make it harder to take the kid back away that could the judge they eventually took the kid back away from the dad to parents and gave it back to the birth parents how what does that fucking new to a kid, man. What's this lady? This lady is so high on our own supply. She should be

in, she should be in a fucking prison, man. Listen, before we go back to Drew, just in the same vein of what we're talking about right now, says, for cursing, so for cursing in her courtroom, she typically would sentence kids to two to ten days in jail.

About that, she was quoted saying, was I in violation? Heck, yes. But am I going to allow a child to cuss anyone out? Heck no. So, you know, It's just in violation. She's talking about the state law and the United States Constitution, by the way. But she knows better.

And a mandate that came down, I think, during the Obama administration era, she's also in violation of putting kids in solitary confinement. Solitary confinement, children. So the case that brought her to light, let's run down that quickly, they arrested 10 kids for fighting. Now, when I say that, I don't mean. Yeah. Two kids got into a fight.

Two kids were fighting. One kid was filming, which is where they got the tape or the quote-unquote evidence, and then there were kids sitting around watching. One of whom who got arrested was saying, stop Taitay, don't do that. In other words, was trying to stop the fight. They charged them under a statute of criminal responsibility. That was quite literally the charge against them. As quickly as I can, I'll explain that the criminal responsibility statute is not a crime.

It is not a crime to be criminally responsible. That statute is for, as an example, you don't shoplift from Walmart, but you force a 12-year-old too. You tell them you're going to beat them up or take them away from their dad. Something really messed up like that. And then they go commit a theft because of you. You are criminally responsible, but you're criminally responsible for the theft that happened. So they didn't even charge them with being criminally responsible for fighting. these idiots and the way it happened is that they decided through the filter system

which is something she created sorry I'm looking at these notes and they're distracting me because I have ADD I realize not even for me I apologize fellas the filter system was a policy that she put in place at the juvenile detention facility where people would decide if kids needed jail time based upon basically a feeling it just says whether or not they're a I think it was true threat was that the phrasing used yeah so essentially what this lady is running

is a little fiefdom where whoever comes in front of her courtroom she just decides if they're a bad kid or not she wants to put on the record saying things like I have training so I know if someone's in a gang even if it doesn't look like they are by the way they wear their hat I wonder if my blue hat would make that bitch think I'm fucking Cripps or whatever

because I would like to shoot her so the thing about the filter system or whatever so everybody just joining us We're talking about a case in mine and Drew's home state of Tennessee where this tyrannical juvenile court judge in Rutherford County has been locking up small children for years for very much so trumped up charges. But what you were just saying about the filter system, just so everybody knows, that's supposed to be very cut and dry whether a kid actually goes into lock up or not. There are, of course, laws and statutes that dictate that. And it's supposed to be, like, wanted in connection to a very serious crime that resulted in injury or death, right? Or has already escaped from, you know, whatever custody.

There's like a list of things that are supposed to qualify a kid for actually being locked up. And they're pretty severe because generally speaking, you want to avoid putting children in jail. But she didn't like all that. It wasn't good enough for her. So, yeah, she has her own system where any kid that is deemed a true three. by either her or I think also like the guards at the juvenile center or whatever if they say, yeah, this kid's a true threat, then that to her is justification enough to lock. It's worth point out this juvenile detention facility got in a lot of trouble for horrific

conditions. These kids weren't just be put in some hotel or something. Like there were a couple cases where one where the guard opened a cell and went well, went in there and beat a kid with his belt. There was another one where this one's kind of funny. Well, it doesn't start off funny, but I got pepper sprayed a kid in his cell through the bars and the next time the kid got out he caught up at the guard and beat the shit out of him and the guard got fired when he figured out what it happened so that part hit for me that's also my favorite part yeah but the particular sorry drew you know the particular of this case that launched it are pretty the so to set this scene this happened in 2016 um in april uh three cops showed up to arrest four kids or

a warrant that apparently had had they got a blanket approval hadn't even been to the magistrate yet uh two or three cops uh two of them happened to be black and they really did not want to do this one of the cops ended up crying uh he he put the eight-year-old girl in cuffs then ended up when he's walking to the car took her cuffs off because he realized the fucked up thing he was doing and felt terrible about it he'd also called his bosses and tried to beg them to call this off but the ringleader was a gung-hole white cop who didn't even know what they were there for he's just he was a just following orders type dude the principal and vice principal are crying. One of the girls is diabetic. They did convince the cops to let her get her

insulin shot from school nurse before they dragged her off the jail. The kids' faces were blurred out using a filter in the videos. They could even see, they arrested the kids in the word of the kid who's one kid whose face was visible was the kid who got beat up who didn't want any of them arrested. So it was also also the whole list of kids that were to be arrested was a result of an investigation by this other cop. Her name's Crystal Templeton. who yeah like you said you can't even see she interviewed like one kid and her parent and put together a list of names of kids who were present at this fight and those are the ones that end up being arrested crystal temple templeton you'll be utterly shocked to hear has a long history of uh suspensions and unsatisfactory uh job appraisals and things like that as a cop like she's had a lot of let me let me run this down real quick we talk again these kids are suffering consequences this is the woman who uh got them all arrested uh She joined the Murphy's Borough Police Department when she was 21. By the time of the arrested Hobgood, she was disciplined at least 37 times, including nine suspensions.

She once left a loaded pistol in the seat of her patrol car. During the pursuit, she failed to turn on her dash cam. Another time she lost control of her patrol car and hit a forward explorer, which in turn hit a Nissan Pathfinder, while Templin's patrol car spinning spec to Toyota Sequoia. So she caused a four-car pile-up, seven people were injured, including herself. There's 37s don't count the time she was suspended. for this she got three days paid leave for this but don't worry she's off the force now now she's a life coach and does multi-level marketing shit so there you go uh god damn these people man fuck

right so where do we start and that's that's kind of what i was saying in the beginning about wanting to come on here is like so i was a juvenile public defender for most of my short public defender career in miami day county we had a judge who was very difficult uh A lot of people don't realize this, but most of the time you go to trial with a juvenile, the judge is the jury by statute in most states that I'm aware of. We had a tough judge. We couldn't convince him of anything. I had a case one time where a cop shoved a kid on camera who had nothing to do with the case we were doing

as he was walking down the hallway, just randomly, just knocked him against the wall, rounds the corner, two kids are arguing. He rums up to them and then starts beating the fuck out of one of the kids. and then he claimed that that kid, you couldn't see it on tape, Judge, but he slapped me first, and the judge just believed him. In spite of everything that we saw on the tape,

I'm saying that, why is a cop there in the first place? And, you know, that's in Miami-Dade. In this Rutherford County case, this principal, I felt bad for her, she started crying, et cetera, et cetera, but she does not have to let police into her building. There's no law that says that.

If you don't have a felony arrest warrant, you can't, you just tell them, No, but she didn't know that. She wasn't empowered. None of us in this country are. The reason we're not is we have eyes. And even though the Constitution says we can do certain things to stop this stuff, we don't feel it. That cop who cried didn't feel empowered in his own department. He's probably being ridiculed right now because this very fucking thing came out. The cop who got one day suspension for being so gung-ho and a yes man, I'm sure he's being lauded right now by his people. The lady who runs the detention facility, who is a good friend of the judge, I'm sure she's being privately lotted. None of them have been fired. The judge is still in place as far as I know, although I'm curious now that we have this national story, if that will be the situation or not.

We have major, major problems in this country when it comes to the justice system and almost, I would say, 90% of them are tied to it being for profit now. I would say the other 10% are tied to our strange, probably goes back to our Christian roots, desire for law and order, make them kids pull up their pants.

A judge who throws kids in jail for cuss, and that's what we need in this community by God that's fucked up. And I did the southern accent, and I heard someone talking about the South having Stone Age law. It's not just the South. The worst case that's come out was out of Pennsylvania. It was a pay-for-play situation

where judges were literally being paid to put kids into prison to fill the bed. Let me read you some outcomes from this article towards the end of it when they stopped talking about this specific case. Forced to stop jelling, so many of its own children, Rutherford County ramped up its pitch to other places to jail theirs. They created a marketing video titled, What Can the Rutherford County Juvenile Detention Center do for you

over saxophone music and a B-roll of children in black and white, striped uniforms? Judge Davenport, Nairage. She talks about the size, the employees, ex-access. 39 counties now contract with Rutherford, according to reports published this year, so does the U.S. Marshals Service. Go ahead.

Sorry, before we move on, we actually have that video. I want to show it real quick because the dystopian the dystopian reality of it versus this marketing pitch is fucking hilarious because you play a little bit of it now, Matt.

The Rutherford County Juvenile Detention Center is a 43,094 square foot facility that is located in the heart of Tennessee. Just minutes from Interstate 24 in Murphusboro, the center is easily accessible with plenty of lodging and restaurant choices to choose from. There are also several major hospitals within a short driving distance as well. With its close proximity to I-24, you can also connect with Interstate Hospital. connect with Interstate 65 and Interstate 40 and less than 30 minutes via state route 840 that The idea that we have a close proximity to hospitals for when we pepper spray and beat the shit out of the kids is like so fucking dystopian Like you talk about the paper plate the cash for kids scale in Pennsylvania like they essentially found a loophole here where this is perfectly legal Because she's she's getting all her money from the taxpayers. This lady the down down

The judge makes $176,000 a year in Murphy's Borough. And we didn't, we were talking about a resume earlier in her political career. We didn't talk about how she lied in her fucking resume. None of her, none of her history lines up with any sort of public record. She says she was a campus cop, but she was in college. That wasn't true.

She also said she helped the FBI catch serial killers in a time where she was working in the fucking private sector. This would be funny if it wasn't rooting kids' lives. Well, she's nuts. She's a narcissist and a, psychopath, but we cannot get rid of narcissists and psychopaths. The question we have to ask ourselves going forward is how do we prevent them from becoming important people? And this isn't the 100% cure, but one way we got to do it is to stop putting profits over people. It's the

classic example of why you can't privatize schools. They say because if you own a grocery store, you get a bad case of blueberries, you throw them away, you can't throw away quote-unquote bad kids. That's why it should be public, not private. It's definitely the same thing. when it comes to not just juveniles, but all prisons. Let me read you some more things that went down with this. This is right from the article. The Department of Children's Services licenses juvenile detention centers. When they went to basically, not test, what's the word I'm looking for?

Examine this facility. Some of the reports, there was very little graffiti, an inspector wrote in 2010. Neat and clean, the inspector wrote 2011, 2013 and 14. Two inspection reports in 2016, says, there were no concerns regarding the program or staff at the detention center. Now, eventually, 2017, Tennessee stops reporting its juvenile, what am I trying to say, the data about how many juveniles are held across the state. We stopped reporting it.

Why are we doing that? Why don't we want people to know? Are we truly full of evil people who just want to throw kids away? I think there might be some of that, especially if they're, hello, black kids. But also, I'm telling you, it has to do with the money. It has to do with this. This is talking about the county commissioners of Rutherford County. The commissioners gave Davenport's budget request.

It was a huge increase that she asked for. A favorable recommendation. Their vote was unanimous. During the meeting, one commissioner, Michael Rather, took a moment to express his admiration for the judge. I've said this for years. If a judge has, if we have a judge that has a box in the courtroom with belts in it that requires young people to put a belt on and hold their pants up in a courtroom, I'm all for it. Good job. Another quote, one of the commissioners laughed and said, well, I've lost it.

But he said something about business being good because we're making profit. Right. Yeah, because they were housing other counties, kids and stuff in their center. Yeah, he said, yeah, basically said, you know, locking up little black boys. toys is our business and buddy business is a booming. I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but that's pretty much what the guys said. So she's a local radio personality who uses that platform to talk about how she's the county's mother and is tough on crime. She's getting $170,000 a year to put people in prison and make these places profits.

And the county commissioners are going, well, this is great, you know, usually a jail cost money. It's actually making us money. This is wonderful with no one looking at the effects that it's having on their actual constituents. once. I don't know how you fix that, but the profit is, you know, the quest for the profit is definitely a big, big part of it. I, like, I, talking about it, but nobody feels empowered. Like, this passage, we ragged

on cops a lot, uh, deserily. Um, but I wanted to read this because it's like the dehumanization, dehumanization system, like it applies to everybody. Um, check this out. The father at the, the guy in mild, the guy who took the eight cuffs off the eight year old, his last name's mine. Miles. Miles is exiting the jail after the eight-year-old turned out didn't get processed because she was arrested in, she was arrested accidentally. She wasn't supposed to be brought in. So all she got was PTSD. So the father asked why this was happening. I don't know, Miles answered. We are good people, the father said. I can imagine what you're feeling, Miles answered. He explained briefly the juvenile court process. I'm sure that's helpful. This is wrong, the father told Miles over and over. After the third time, Miles fighting back tears said he understood as a parent himself, the father's anger and you, the father said.

I understand, Miles answered. Like, you can only ask people to turn off the humanity professionally so many times before it's just permanently fucking off. You know, it's goddamn infuriating. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that that cop has PTSD as well, and I have absolutely no sympathy for him, but I do think, on a personal level, but I do think you're touching on something that is really important here. I mean, you look at this woman, she's being lauded.

She's been overturned numerous times. She's been told point blank. She's been reprimanded by the state bar. And that's where I'm going, these are the checks and balances we're supposed to have in place that are failing. This lady's being reprimanded, but she's being reelected. The county commissioners like her. Why? Because she's making everyone money.

Now, you touched on earlier about how it's a loophole because it's technically legal. I'm not so sure because numerous times she's put people in jail kids. when, by law, federal and state, she was not supposed to. And there are protections for judges when it comes to your official judicial capacity being protected. It's a type of immunity, but there are exceptions to it. I genuinely think that this lady is guilty of wrongful imprisonment and or kidnapping. And not just because, like, I want that to be the case. It is hard for me to imagine unless there's a particular statute that just keeps her immune.

what her defense would be if in your capacity as a judge you are allowed to jail kids only in these three circumstances and quite literally thousands of times those circumstances weren't met you on the radio in public said you knew that

but you didn't care because it's important to be firm it's really hard for me to see why she's not being prosecuted right now and I feel like if the prosecutor of Rutherford County had any fucking balls, he or she would do it. Yeah, but you know they ain't going to, though, dog. That's like the, you know, that's like a cop telling on another cop, man.

Well, here's why I know they're not going to. The DA of Rutherford County probably loves her. The DA of the Brothford County is one of the worst DAs in the state of Tennessee. I only know this because our buddy Tietz, who's a criminal lawyer out of Nashville, practices there. But that's how corrupt the system is, folks. And that's why, as I spent my career due in public defense, I became so, I guess the word that they used these days is radicalized. Our criminal justice system is only criminal. There is no justice.

It's not just in the South. It's not just in conservative areas. It is a system that breaks people, like the cop that Mark was mentioning, like lawyers who tried to fight this lady and got nothing done, who took her all the way to the Supreme Court, got her reprimanded. and nothing happened. It breaks people down. Yeah, something that happened, I forget why he's in it. Like, they took this case

to the district attorney before they pressed these kids. The ADA told them there's no fucking case here, and they still wouldn't arrest him anyway. There's just no, like, no one, unless you're going to take a gun and go down there and physically stop her, no one can stop this lady from locking up kids. It's like her one purpose in life.

Which is why somebody needs to stand up to her, who's official. but I don't think that they will. On this very hopeful note, let's get Drew out of here. Drew, thanks for coming on and illuminating all this for us and also tell the people, you know, how they can follow you, find you, whatever, all that good stuff. I'm at Drew Morg Comedy on all social media.

It's sometimes funnier than I was today. I tour with Trey and our buddy Corey, the Buttercream Dream on the Well Red Comedy. tour you can go there for tickets we uh we have a great show a great live show and uh yeah man i just want people and there's two things the environment and the criminal justice system where i'm like guys it's the whole damn system it's not you know i'm gonna vote blue but like it's not just voting blue we've got to look at it and overhaul the whole thing and cases like this i'm really really really hate saying this they're going to get more and more common or less because

we've killed the press, but more people like her exist than y'all than any of us want to process and accept. It is horrific, and we're actually lucky when we arrest those two judges in Pennsylvania. One of them just got out, and I think somebody should shoot him. All right. Thank you. My official recommendation from my official recommendation that he'd be excused. As your lawyer, everyone, I legally recommend that we make it legal to kill that man and then we do it. Because I would never, ever say you should break the law. Then I might be held criminally responsible when you do it. But if we change the laws to say legal, then we could kill that guy.

And we should do that. Yeah. All right. That's why he's right. That's why he's our battle call, Saul. That's right. Senior legal correspondent. Thank you, Drew.

Okay. uh all right we're going to hit some comments and stuff over here i just uh i'm getting conditioned now when i look at the comments to remember to say hit that like button and smash subscribe hit like and all that computer internet stuff that i'm supposed to tell y'all to do do that because it helps us out as i understand it so yeah thank you all for doing that i'm going to look through matt you can put up some comments if you're saying because i'm just now trying to get through some over here uh as we do that uh because yesterday it was Columbus day uh and annual argument about Christopher Columbus that happens online was extremely stupid yesterday,

including our boy Josh Mandel, uh, saying that Christopher Columbus was an American hero, which is funny because he was an Italian sale of for Spain and never set foot in America, but whatever, but it's also, you know, again, to these people, Jesus is an American hero, you know? Yeah, yeah. Jesus, the first American. Everybody knows that. So yeah, I, it's so wild to me, you, you will never be able to convince me that any. of those people give a single shit about Columbus or Columbus Day, dude. It's just like a thing that I, you know, you got some marginalized people wanting something and, you know, they can't have that.

But also it's just like, I'm supposed to be on this side of this thing. And so they act like they give a shit. They don't, nobody gives a fuck about Christopher Columbus, dude, or his day. Yeah, the Sopranos episode on it is pretty much the, uh, called Chris is pretty much the only thing worth the final word of the matter. Right. Jim Gray says happy indigenous People's Day. Yes.

Yeah. Which is like Joe Biden signed a proclamation about that and everyone got mad. But Columbus Day has been Indigenous People's Day on South Dakota for like 30 years, I think, because they have a lot of large Native American population and nobody ever got mad about it. But also like we talked to, me and you talked

about it yesterday, America Vespuces right there. Like the whole country's named after him. He's another Italian-American hero. By the way, he's the cartographer, of course, who, like, drew the outlines of the South American coast, and that's what he named it after him. He quickly realized that he wasn't in Asia. That was in 1501, so only a decade after Columbus. He was way smarter than Christopher. He never killed anybody, never raped anybody, never enslaved anybody.

So build a statue in him, if you want, if you need to be replaced the Great Italian. But yesterday I learned I'd never known the origins of Christopher Columbus Day, which is really funny to me. So in 1892, it was a 400th year anniversary of, you know, Columbus Landing and Española and in the Caribbean. And he, so what had happened around that time is a couple of Italians were accused of killing a cop in New Orleans. Some good old boys, as they were prone to do, go hyped up on, you know, on racism. They went down the courthouse and lynched eight Italians. I think they shot eight, six, and hung two. So there was a big internet, Teddy Roosevelt said, that's awesome.

We should kill all Italians. Italy got mad about it. So Benjamin Harrison to try to calm shit down and to pander for Italian-American votes issued a national proclamation for the anniversary of Columbus, the Columbus Day, the Columbus Landing in the world, that we would have a national day of celebration for Christopher Columbus. Harrison lost the next election anyway. anyway everyone forgot about it if we made a national holiday in the federal holiday in 1971 i think so it was like an olive branch an olive oil branch if you will that we were offering the italians okay yeah it's just a very very very american that like so teddy roosevelt is a horrificly racist against italians we put up a statue at him in south dakota uh to make up for him being racist against

italians we put up statues of a racist italian that was our compromise Yeah, you've got to even out the racist. You know, as long as we're having an equal number of separate racists represented by statues, then, you know, we can keep on America. And Carla Barrick says, I'm an American Indian. Thus, Columbus can kiss my brown ass, and we have to share the day with him. Yeah, but, you know, maybe one of these days will just fully take it away. We talked about it last year, I think, after Columbus Day,

but I get mad about it every year because so many people seem to think that Christopher Columbus proved the world was round and it drives me fucking insane everyone knew the world was round in 1492 Eurostophanes, what the dude's name is BC calculated circumference of the earth than five kilometers

Aristotle knew the world was round sailors who had to navigate a curved earth in three dimensions by stars which moved because the earth was rotating knew the earth was round if not because of that because when they're sailing they saw another ship, the first thing they would see was sails coming up

over the fucking horizon. That's why they put the flag at the top of the mast. So the first thing you'd see was whether you were coming up on an enemy or a friend. They knew the earth was around. Columbus up the earth was small. He was a fucking idiot. He got lost. He almost died. The only good character quality involved in this is a morally neutral one, which is

brave. He was bravely stupid. And therefore, he got to be the first one here, if you don't count any Native Americans and the Vikings. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you just don't count them. Stephanie Seton says Drew trying to legislate his way into the purge. Yes, yes, he is.

He would love nothing more. Yeah. Big, good old purge. He's a purgy type some bitch he is. He wants to burn it all down. Combine the purge with the terror in France and you got that's pretty much Drew's a night dream scenario. Guillotines, baby.

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