Weekly Skews - Weekly Skews - 11/28/23 – School Vouchers: Ain’t It

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

Tonight we discuss the growing trend of school voucher programs in red states, including (of course) Trae’s home state of Tennessee, which is set to expand their already controversial program tremendously. The problem with this is that voucher programs are dumb and bad. Also we got some top shelf dumbassery for yuns. Join us. Support the show

What's up, everybody? Welcome back. Happy Skews Day, Pete. It is November 28th, 2023. I'm Trey. This is my mustache. That's Mark and his beard. What's up, Mark?

How are you doing? None, buddy. Going to talk about school vouchers, specifically in your state of Tennessee, but also, like, how it's been tried and is failing around the country. And we're still pushing forward with it anyway, uh, because reasons. Yeah, I texted you earlier today without knowing what you plan to talk about and suggested this topic.

And the main reason is because I know Tennessee is up to it. I know just because Tennessee is doing it. I know it's some bullshit. And I've since looked into it and understand some of the reasons, right? But it's one of those things where if you just hear about it just on a very superficial level, it sounds like, oh, well, that doesn't sound. That sounds like a nice thing to do or whatever. And then you dig into it. And of course, it's all bullshit.

So we'll get into all that a little later. Yeah. Yeah. Before we get to the show, a couple things. my friend Elizabeth watches the show sometimes, I guess but hadn't seen her coverage of Queen to Doolo. She just texted me today if I was

familiar with what the Q&on Queen of Canada is up to. I was like I have not lately, but thank you for letting me know she's up to some shit. So she's back, maybe. Queen to Dulo, if you're not familiar, during the height of COVID declared herself the rightful ruler of Canada and had

her minions go around delivering cease and assist orders to police stations in Canada to stop enforcing COVID. protocols. She, her cult apparently moved into a small town in Saskatchewan called Richmond. It's a town of 150 people. You can imagine what it would do to a town of 150 people to have like 30, 40, 50

psychos moving in the town. Yeah, that's, that's rough, dude. Yeah. You know, town of everybody,

I'm from town like 7, 800 and everybody already knows everybody. I can't imagine one fifth of that getting overran by 50, you know, cultish lunatics. That's, that's tough. that fucks the potlucks all up you know yeah so they moved into an abandoned school that had been bought by a guy who uh it turned out to be a follower of hers but it originally planned to turn it into a weed grow uh so it's abandoned school yeah classic cult stuff i feel like you know and they were doing rituals in the school auditorium they were like they have these bizarre religious rituals involving a made-up currency that queen didoulos declared the official currency of canada anyway So they called a fire marshal owner

They got them kicked out Because somebody had noticed They spotted a heater propped up against a propane tank Which My thing is like Solution to your problem is right there Yeah Like just let nature run

Just let them do it Yeah right Yeah let them Darwin award themselves Why not? Well I was actually I was going to say We first brought this up It's why you people like this come up

You know she's come up a couple times I feel like the first time It's like the height of COVID it's like three years ago at this point. And people like this will come up and you're like, damn, that's wild. That's a wild person. And like, you just go on with your life. But unless they're dead or in jail, that person is out there every single day still being insane.

Right. So, like, imagine what all she's been up to or what all's going on. Like, you hear about them and then you forget about them. But like, no, she's still out there crazy and it up. It's wild to think about it. Her father has bought her a couple of RVs that she kind of stole and it's like okay uh so the fire marshal chased them out of the band in school and they thought they'd gotten rid of them but they just moved into a farmhouse and the outskirts of town so it's like

funny to me this town's trying to deal with qanon people like they're like they're a bed bug infestation yeah right yeah just burn the farmhouse down you know yeah uh my other the other favorite news story i saw today uh this headline in time magazine south korean farmers threatened to release two million dogs in protest of dog meat ban. I didn't know people were still, I mean, obviously you heard all the hacky racist jokes from the 80 and 90s about Asians eating dogs and stuff. I want 100% fully thought that was just like a racist myth or whatever. Like, it never crossed my mind that they actually were eating dogs over there.

So I was pretty taken aback by this because I always thought that was just some, you know, some shit your drunk uncle says. and always has said, you know. Well, it's not super popular anymore, but we'll get at a second. But like, so like I eat meat. I'm not judgmental in that aspect of it. I got a little dog. I can't imagine eating my dog unless, you know, times get real, real hard.

But like I eat like, people have pet cows and they eat steak and people have pet pigs and they eat bacon. So it's not like. I mean, right. I mean, I think aren't pigs supposed to be, aren't pigs like ostensibly? They're like just as smart as dogs, right? I mean, it's one of those things where it's like, really, it's kind of just. arbitrary. I know how insane this sounds to some people, big dog lovers and whatnot, but I mean,

it's true. Like, it is kind of arbitrary the things that we're like totally cool with eating versus the things we're not. Because again, if pigs are just as intelligent as dogs, then what difference does it make? It's just that bacon hits that hard. So that makes it different, you know? Maybe dog hits. I don't know. Yeah, right. Good. Yeah. So, but these people that run these dog butchering operations are really obviously, you know, up in arms about their livelihood being taken away. So what they're threatening to do is to release the two million dogs they have, which of course would not be profit centers.

They would just be losses. They're going to release two million dogs around the home of like government officials. Yeah. And I was like that's just as a purely as a fan of chaos and it's not happening around me. I kind of think it's fucking hilarious. Let me tell you some of these coastal white people here in America. You talk about rescuing dogs. Y'all love to rescue dogs.

Hey, here's some dogs in serious need of rescue. Yeah. you guys need to coordinate a plan of action. Yeah. So some polling data, like 86% of South Koreans have little intention of consuming dog meat, 57% support a ban on dog meat consumption. This is a popular. It's like eating dogs is not super popular over there.

And another poll last year, so 64% of South Koreans are opposed to dog meat consumption. And this is basically just pap halls mad about losing tradition because like it's like centuries old practice. It's like a superstitious thing. They eat dog meat to combat the summer heat. It's like a way to, they think it like cools you down in the summertime, which is not something else familiar with. Well, you know, what's funny about that is if, unless this is also a myth, as I understand it in Korea, also older people, they have a superstition that ceiling fans are deadly, that they can kill you if they're in your home. So it's like, they're causing their own problems here.

You know what I mean? You wouldn't have to combat the summer heat with dog meat if you just hooked up a ceiling fan, at least that would help a little bit. But these superstitions are fucking these people over. Also, this feels like one of those things that's like, based on the stat you just gave us, it seems like this would probably just take care of itself in another 15 or so years. So, you know, maybe just let it ride so you don't have two million stray dogs running around everywhere. I don't know. It is sort of hardening for me that like every country has like pap balls.

We just can't let go of dumb bullshit even if it's like. Universal law of papal them for sure. Yeah. And it's like the like my aunt's sister. or used to have this thing, like this whole wife's tail that, like, if you get an ice cream headache, if you hold the bowl of ice cream out in the palm of your hand or make the ice cream headache will go away in like five seconds. I'm like, but ice cream headaches go away in five seconds. It's just like, okay.

Put your head between your legs with your thumb up your ass for five seconds. You know, eventually the headache will go away. It's crazy how that works. Yeah. So it's like, if I can't eat dog meat, how I go cool down in the summertime? I don't know, man. It's like, go like this for a little bit. Yeah. That's my solution to your problem. also we're going to talk about Eric Adams for a second the mayor of New York so he got hit with a sexual assault law

so you're seeing a ton of these right now in New York because New York passed a law called the Adult Survivors Act that sort of suspended like statute of limitations for a year in the wake of me too to let people like get justice for long ago assault so that's what that's what Donald Trump was sued under by Eugene Carroll So, like, that's why, you don't know if you've seen the P. Diddy lawsuit details that are pretty horrifying. And I kind of feel like I haven't seen the details, but yeah, I know about it. Yeah. Russell Brand. Right. Yeah, Russell Brown's one that got sued under this. Like, I feel like P. Diddy's about to, uh, diddy's about to go through it, I think. And if you did all the stuff he's accused of, including planning a car bomb as one of the stories I read in a kid Cuddy's car, allegedly. I'm going to say allegedly or something by Diddy. Quick side note, I was on a, I did a, I was a guest on a serious satellite radio show, the Karen Hunter show, which is on their urban channel, right?

So I was the only white person on there. And they asked me, and I hadn't, they asked me, he was like, do you hear about what did he did recently? They brought up and I was like, oh, yeah, that was crazy. Right. hilarious. And they were like, what? And I was like, you talking about where he like dressed up as Batman on Halloween and pretended to apprehend the Joker at that record party or whatever?

like he hired a guy to be the Joker or whatnot and he came in as Batman, hilarious. They're like, no, no, it's horrific sexual assault allegations. I was like, oh, okay, well, no, nope, hadn't heard about that. And I don't find that hilarious. Yeah. I apologize. It's really easy to step in a hole like that because y'all get our news from such different places now that, like, you could just know the Batman story and not know about the horrific sexual abuse allegations at all. Right.

Well, they wrote it off as me being a white guy, which I was totally, I went with. I was like, yeah, that's it. They were like, yeah, in the black community, we're all keeping up with Diddy, but I guess you guys haven't gotten the news yet. And I'm sitting there knowing that, like, you and most white people have. It's just me. But I was like, yep, us whites, we don't keep up. So Adams, like, his denial, like, I don't know why guys do this.

But his denial is like, I don't recall every meeting this person. And I would never harm, well, first of all, I don't recall every meeting this person. I don't know public relations strategies, but I would not do that because the next thing that happens is immediately a picture of you two together at a party at, like, yeah, 95, whatever. Right. But like, uh, he also said, I would never harm anyone in that magnitude. So obviously he's saying there's a degree to which he would harm people.

Right. So Eric Adams should not talk in public. I don't know if you ever listened to like, his ghost you're saying is the hate, my haters when I sit down at the table of success. He likes to say that over and over again. Dude, first of all, it's tough for him because he doesn't have the card to play, uh, pleading not guilty by reason of being Italian. right the way that uh the way that Cuomo did and speaking of Cuomo what the fuck is up with like New York

politicians you know what I mean it feels like they're exclusively crazy I mean it's like because I feel like New York's you know it's obviously a wild place in a big city but it's wild that they they only elect lunatics apparently like it's being a big city mayor is big sure just signed up to you the most hated person at a town I cannot think of a popular big city mayor in America right now. But New York especially, like, they might never have a normal mayor again. Like, their last four, you got Rudy, who, you know, did weird bits. We dressed in drag like Marilyn Monroe and announced he was divorcing his wife at a press

conference before he told her. You got, and he was a national joke before 9-11, then treated as a hero after 9-11, then became a national joke again for reasons we're all familiar with. You got Michael Bloomberg who made a signature issue trying to take away everyone's, like, large sodas. You got Bill de Blasio who murdered a Groundhog on live television on the Groundhog Day celebration. And then immediately after leaving office announced him and his wife were opening their marriage, which do it if you want to, but leave us out of it. And now you've got Eric Adams who just last week said, he said, I'm mayor because God gave me the authority to be mayor. He

invoked the divine right of New York mayors. Sure. Yeah. So ignoring this, I don't know any details of the sexual assault delegations, and I imagine we'll be hearing more about them going forward. But he also, like, his devices got seized by the FBI a couple weeks ago because he's accused of, like, taking illegal campaign contributions from Turkey. And so he supposedly helped the government of Turkey get city approval to open a 35-story skyscraper housed diplomatic facilities in 2021, despite concerns about the towers, fire, safety systems. So he helped the Turkish government skirt fire.

regulation so they could all die faster in a fire, I guess. But the punchline of this is he apparently has a lot of, when he's going back to being borough president of Brooklyn, he like has a lot of ties to Turkish government. He actually made a cameo in a 2017 Turkish rom-com where two guys ask him for political favors in Turkish. He says they can't understand them. They'll take a selfie together.

Let's watch this video of Eric Adams in a rom-com pretending to take bribes from Turkish officials years before he's accused of taking bribes in Turkish officials. Hodgeam, my apartment

a head cut should be a road yordaam mr. Thank you, Eric, Mr. Mr. President,

thank you, let's go ahead of us to get him can't come to you. You guys are from Turkey. Brooklyn loves Turkey.

Brooklyn is the Istanbul of America. We love your food. We love your music. I always said it. Everybody says that, Mark. Brooklyn is the Istanbul of America. I've heard, yeah, common, common idiom, common phrase that.

At the end of this, he takes a selfie with him. Also, I feel like one of those old, like jokes and like old martial arts movies and stuff where it feels like, that dude, the subtitle, the second guy, it said he said, show us the way, which takes three seconds to say. And he talked for like nine or ten seconds. You know what I mean? Did you notice that? It just felt like, I feel like he was saying more than just that. He said a whole lot of Turkish words, and it was like, you got it, buddy, or whatever. I watch a lot of shows that are subtitled on, like, Spanish and Portuguese, Brazilian crime shows hit for me.

But, like, so, like, they'll talk, like, I'm sure it's just the translators, like, trying to... Yeah, make it as simple to understand for English speakers as possible. Yeah, right. It's not a literal translation. Taking out idioms we wouldn't understand and references, you don't understand, just to get the... I'm sure they're not telling us the full translation of what they're saying. but they will talk for like three minutes and then they'll pop up like let's go to the store

like okay right right so yeah Eric Adams sucks and like three years ago people were asking like he was obviously the next Democratic nominee for president and he's corrupt and stupid and venal and a bad mayor and I don't know the truth about the facts but if he goes to jail I will enjoy that

so let's get so I do want to say quickly this was a while ago now but you were on one so I just let you keep going but when you're going through all the recent mayors. You were like, Giuliani, right, did all the Giuliani shit. De Blasio, murdered a groundhog and then did some wild sex stuff. Eric Adams, sexually assault, whatever. And then Bloomberg, you're like, this dude tried to take away big gulps, right? And then you just kept going. Like, I feel like Bloomberg, if he was listening, was like, well, that doesn't feel entirely fair. I don't know if the. No. But he's a mega billionaire. So like, he's got to be,

you know, there's got to be other shit. Oh, yeah, for sure. But like, also, he didn't, he didn't need to be corrupt. He need to be corrupt in the normal bargaining for votes way, but he, because like you said, he's the billionaire, he didn't have to like take money to try to get to be able to eat out at nice restaurants like Eric Adams does. Right. So, yeah, he did out there. I mean, like, stop and frisk, all that shit was going on. He was bad in other

ways, too. I just the one I could remember off the time. I know. It was just funny the way it played out. And like, I don't have any, I don't have any huge, like, ideological problem with being like America has an obesity crisis. We shouldn't be giving out 64 ounce sodas for a dollar 50 because the government subsidizes like corn, you know, corn syrup.

Yeah, right. But, like, also, it just makes Democrats look stupid. It looks like nanny state bullshit. Like, so if you can't do it, don't propose it. I'm actually pretty, that's one of the, I've thought before that, like, that might be the thing I'm the most, I guess, conservative about is that type of stuff. Because, like, I agree. It does feel like nanny state shit. And I'm a big proponent of, like, personal responsibility when it comes to that type of shit, you know what I mean?

I don't think, if we're supposed to be a free country, we're not not be telling people, they can't, you know, explode in proportion because they like 64 hours drinks, like, you know, that's on them. They want to make a mountain do. Let them have a mega mountain do as far as I'm concerned. And also it's like you're not regulating, none of you're not regulating. You're subsidizing the companies that make those sodas. And on the back end, punishing us for consuming and enjoying the products. My thing is like, yeah, the government should not make it illegal for me to have a flavored

vape because they think it's going to give me cancer. While it's legal for corporation to dump chemicals in a river that give you cancer. Blake. Do one of the other. Absolutely. 100%. I'm with you. 100% on that. All right. Let's get into it. Producer Matt is with us behind the saints, pulling the strings.

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So go to weekly skews.com slash more or go on Patreon and look me up. Either way you'll find it, make it happen. All right, we appreciate, as we mentioned up top, we're going to be talking about school vouchers. We already covered all that, why it seems all right, but is bullshit. We're going to get into the details of that in a little bit.

But first, we begin with the Daily Dumbass. Matt, graphic, please. Tonight's D.D., the media for talking about actual crimes instead of adults fucking each other. This is George Santos, naturally. Congress, reporters don't care to write about adultery anymore.

And trust me, there's been plenty of this Congress. And nobody writes about it anymore because George Santos is here. They should look at it this way. Look, with George being around, a lot of this shit's going to go under the rug because none of the reporters write about it anymore. And if it does, it ends up getting like some

inner obscured column somewhere in the newspaper. It's not front page like it used to be. Members of Congress have resigned or have been ousted from positions of power for cheating on their spouse in the past. Now, that's nothing. Nobody cares. George Santos is here. So just putting that out there because I think it's relevant. I think it's really relevant.

And one thing that I bring up, and I do want you to go. Classic narcissist, the whole, like, you know, it's like, oh, they're not going to do that anymore because ever since I showed up, it's all about me. Right. I had two thoughts when I first heard this. My first thought was like, oh, shit, because you said, he's already said he's not running again, right? He's not running for reelection. Okay. So my first thought was like, oh, shit, Santos's about to go score or stirs, right?

Just air every kind of laundry and get like, that's going to be fun. But then my second thought was like, yeah, but he's the most easily discreditable person on planet earth. You know what I mean? Like, I can't act like I believe all the wild shit. He's about to start saying about all his Republican, you know, colleagues after pointing out every other thing he said as a goddamn lie. So that's a bummer, you know, because I feel like he's about. to come out with some juicy shit, but it's so easy for anyone to go like, yeah, you actually believe that, though.

You know how this dude is. You know, I wish it was someone else. He also is like, it's amazing this guy's like, God elected to Congress and has been there a year and has like a child's understanding of how stuff works. Because he's basically complaining that he gets all the attention for being corrupt. And he's right, because his corruption is by the black letter of the law, straightforwardly illegal. And egregious, you know. Yeah.

he doesn't understand why those people resigned because it was not for cheating on their spouses. The Washington media, for better or for worse, does not just write a story if you cheat on your wife. That's not a thing they do. The fact he thinks they do that is utterly bizarre to me. He also went on to talk about how like other members of Congress do insider trading. And he's right. That is corrupt. It's also legal, right?

So, like, he's just like a naive little baby. He talked to, he talked about how, like, people are fucking lobbyists in exchange for votes, what also probably isn't illegal. The Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky's story only got covered because everybody knew it, kind of. Drudge broke it first, and everybody stood around looking at each other, trying to figure out how they could talk about this, the thing everybody knew, the mainstream press had no way to talk about.

Then they found the corruption angle, which was he had tried to use his leverages. to get her a job to bribe her to stay silent, all right? That was the part that gave him the hook to cover it. Santos, in other hand, is threatening, like, he might be doing it now because they're supposed they tried to call him to resign today. Like Mike Johnson met with him and urged him to resign to save the caucus from a tough vote. He's flatly to deny, refusing to do so and was supposedly going to go on the floor of Congress

tonight and air all these allegations. He might be doing it as we're speaking, in which case, thank you for the content. next week, George. That will get them to cover it because they will cover it as Psycho George Santos goes before Congress and accuses X and Y of adultery and taking bribes. So he might get

what he wants. But either way, they're voting to expel him on Thursday, and I don't think this stuff gives them more reason to keep him around. What's also just funny, it's not surprising coming from a guy like this, but the sort of like underlying implication of like

that if that shit's not talked about his shouldn't be talked about either like the you know a same person hears that and it's like yeah none of that is cool and people should anyone should be held accountable for any of that type of you know illicit behavior i'm not saying like just plain all adultery but you know any kind of actual wrongdoing anyone should be held accountable of that in congress especially but his opinion on it seems to be like no no one should and it's bullshit that only i am you You know what I mean? It's like, I thought that was the deal with a job like this is because, you know, look around, look at these guys. You're supposed to be able to get away with this stuff, but I can't. That's not fair. And it's like, it's just the insight into the way he looks at it. And I'm sure a lot of other ones do too.

He ran before he walked. What you do usually is you get elected, you get to Congress, you look around and figure out what scams you can get away with, then you do it. He started doing scams before he got elected. right he hadn't had the tutor and so like it's just like anyway he's not going to go quietly this might be the last time we get to talk about him in which case uh rest in peace George Santos um while we're talking about Mike Johnson uh he said some weird shit

so he dug up some old shit no way he was talking about like Is it sex related? Yes he basically said a radio interview that like people shouldn't be allowed to be trans because him and his friends would have pretended to be trans in high school as they'd go in the girls locker room and look at the naked girls. That feels like a confession,

Mike, and it's not really the way things work in the real world, but I did want to, like, after we talked about moral panics, I was thinking on the Patreon episode, I was thinking about it, because I don't know if you remember we talked about it. The expert's described as the first step is labeling, creating what they call a folk devil, right? Right. It's like you take a small group of people exaggerate their power and numbers and importance, make them out to be bad, and then target them, right? It's sort of like they can be a fake, they can be a fake group, but also they can be real, like trans people.

I saw some numbers that fucking astounded me about how successful this sci-up has been to a degree. They did, the recent public polling that asked Americans to guess how many people they think are trans in America. And the median response among all the people who took this survey was 21%. Absolutely. There are a ton of Americans walking around thinking that America is 21% trans. What's so wild to me about that is that I assume the people who are guessing super high like that. I'm assuming that they're right-wing and they're terrified of trans people and trans people don't hit for them.

I'm further assuming that they don't know any trans people, right, personally. And I bet they know a lot of other people like them who also don't know any trans people, which means they must assume that like San Francisco, for example, is 98.5. percent trans people. They don't think about math that hard, but I'm saying they never, ever, ever see them in their daily life and fucking bucksnort Tennessee or whatever, but they think one in five people is trans. So that means they think cities are made up just exclusively of trans people or something,

or blue states or both, you know, it's wild. America, by the way, is 13.6% blacks. They think there's like 160% as many trans people as there are black people walking around America. And by the way, according to this survey, the number of trans people in America is about 0.5%. So about 142nd of the number of people said in this survey. I've seen other numbers as high as 1.6%. And also, it's a little bit higher by generation.

As kids get more socioliberal with this stuff. But the closest in the group of people I could find to 0.5% is native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander is 0.3%. So roughly about as many of trans people in America as there are native Hawaiians. all right but like the thing that I found amazing to me about this is we know

from the last couple electoral cycles where they failed fear mongering about this stuff and Republicans have kind of except outside of

women's sports has kind of stopped talking a lot about it even though unless they're like really protected right wing districts

but it's like we know it doesn't work to like move people's attitudes despite the fact they've gas lit people and a thing that more than one

and five people is so they this the propaganda part worked 70% of the way and then everyone stopped caring. It's just the funniest fucking thing they did to themselves.

It's like, God damn it. Oh, fuck. It's so weird. So also today, Hunter Biden, James Comer called Hunter Biden to testify. It is whatever shame of impeachment investigation. Yes.

And Hunter said, okay, all right, that's fine. I'll do that. Which I imagine they did, they could not have expected that, I feel like. They had to expect him to do what they always do. What Jim Jordan and everybody was always done, you know. Duckus and using Ducky and all that. So, you know, that had to talk.

But he basically said, I'll testify about it in a public hearing, so you can't lie about what happened and what was said. He can't care. Like, I mean, every single American should want every single hearing like this to be public. I cannot imagine what kind of mental gymnastics. you have to go through to make an argument that they shouldn't be. Like, why? Why could you possibly argue that they shouldn't be public? So, well, the argument is they want to be able to lie about it. And by the way, I'm not exaggerating

about that. Yeah. Former sports anchor, I think this is Michelle Tofoya. It is Michelle Tofoya. Former sportscaster, Michelle Tofoya, turned right-wing grifter. We got the talking points, and it's explicitly what she said. If you don't believe me, check it out here. Yeah, that would be interesting. But I agree that. I, I, I, prefer hearings to be done behind closed doors because I think that they actually get to the heart of the matter and they get some truth and they can ask questions without preening for the camera without all the grandstanding. That is my preference. And for Abby Lull, his attorney to say,

well, you all use that to misinform and to distort the facts. Well, you know what? You can do that too, Abby. After he comes out of his closed door session, you feel free to knock yourself out and you can distort too. I mean, it's a silly argument. See, that's just like I said earlier about Santos, like his outlook on it is like, no, we should all be able to get away with it and it's bullshit that I can. It's a similar thing here where she's like, yeah, we're going to lie and twist the truth or whatnot. But I mean, you just do that too. Why would you not just do that too? Instead of like, how about the truth just comes out? Or like, people are allowed to see the truth. Like, yeah, so insane. I had wondered, I wondered, because I'm a huge football fan,

and every now and then I'll wonder what happened to Michelle Tafoy. I knew she went right wing like and lost her job as a football person, but I didn't know she had parlayed into Fox News stuff. I'm not surprised, but yeah, hadn't seen her in a minute. Yeah, a few SBM personalities have tried that recently.

It's a very weird move and he got a great job. Right. Yeah. Yeah, because she was on Sunday night football. I know we don't have a lot of football fans or whatever, but she was the sideline reporter for years on like the premier football, like the game of the week.

Most popular show on television. It was popular show on television. Yeah, right. Yeah. I mean, it was like a, one of, like one of the hitness jobs you can have in all sports broadcasting, in my opinion. She had it and said, fuck it, because she wanted to go off about the Jews and transfers or whatever else. Sports center host, whose name I can't remember right now, she was upset about being forced to get vaccinated. She got it, but then ended up quitting anyways to start her own podcast, and she gets like 10 downloads.

Fumbling the bag, baby. All right. Yeah. It is next. Yeah, sure. Honorable mention for Daily Dumbass. People who are asking questions when it's me who's asking those questions. Not me with this guy.

Yeah. The oldest president in U.S. history also continues to face questions about his age, even here in Nantucket. Mr. President, are you too old to be running for re-election? Too stupid. Why is Donald Trump beating you in the list? So, if you can't tell, that is the voice of the man. giving this report. Yes.

He's continuing to face questions. Smash got to me asking the question. Yeah, right. He's like, so some people are asking, you know, and it's like, what people? Well, for example, me, I've been asking, you know. And it's so funny. It's like, if I scream to Donald Trump, do you have diarrhea in your pants, sir? And then Lynn turned and were like, Donald Trump is continuing to face questions about

whether or not he has diarrhea on. Yeah, on Fox News Network, on the number one most popular cable news network. You know what I mean? If that happened on that network, you know, Rick. because that's the important context. Like millions of viewers here continues to face criticism for his age and it's just this dude saying a thing

that he did. It's so ridiculous. It's like breaking news. We all Joe Biden's all. We all fucking know it. I want to talk about this story. Kraft sued some giant egg producers and successfully convinced a jury that

egg prices, which are all led to believe was the fault of, I don't know, woke people or bodies. Joe Biden. Eggs and gas was 100% Joe Biden, Mark. Where are you been? They got busted for price gouging.

So Graf's going to get some, I guess they've been to take eggs to put in all their other food. They're food good. So they haven't provided the damages yet. But they did remind me that like, these people have obviously been price gouging with over inflation. Of course. They've been saying it on their earnings calls. I don't know why that's not a major scandal.

Right. I know. I know. And that's like, that's the part why I do want to be critical of Joe Biden. because he could have come out and used the bully pulpit of the presidency to point out these incidences of people being price-couged and corporations pretending it's inflation when really it's just pure profit it's pure free profit and they realize they can just jack up prices and blame it

on and blame it on the government but also we talked about this when comes to gas prices in Saudi Arabia do you really want to let these people pick the president do you know what I'm saying like they can manipulate prices to decide who's president every four years if they want to if we're all going to be this big of a suckers but Joe Biden absolutely like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren have both been beating this drum about corporations price gouging us on the cover of inflation. And that's the one big thing that Joe Biden could be doing to make a better case about what's actually going on in the economy and who's actually the bad actor here and who's at fault. The other thing you could do is like the Fed keeps raising interest rates to fight inflation,

even though inflation has been brought down. And like you really do, as much of a pain in the ass as inflation is, you absolutely do not want deflation. Deflation is way worse than inflation. And that will lead to stuff you imagine, like, happening and, like, what we imagine happening in, like, you know, developing world economy. Zimbabwe, where they were printing billion dollar notes and stuff? Right.

So one thing, when Jerome Powell and the Fed were raising interest rates under Trump, he threatened to fire them. That would a huge break in norms, but the president can do that. Usually just let them serve out 10-year terms. Biden should absolutely threaten to fucking fire the Fed for jacking up home and car prices constantly, to fight a battle they already won. And that's the thing that's really frustrating. He could actually do that.

He won't do it because of the norms, but that is where he's fucking up. I do want to say, like, the ceasefire between Gaza and Hamas has been extended. It's not a perfect ceasefire. People, you know, take pot shots, keep violent. Israel's still, you know, sniping people with quadcopters. I don't know if people are, like, they have, like, quadcopter drones or sniper rifles on it,

which is, like, frightful. The existence of that type of technology, we're really are away from doing war with robot dogs. For sure. It's right around the corner. Yeah. I kind of believe that DARPA already has those. Like robots or robot panthers or whatever. Like I bet they have killbots, fully functional killbots.

That's a. Yeah. Yeah. A four-year-old American hostage was returned. Thank God. Three Palestinians were shot in Vermont in the back this weekend just for like, they're like here going to college and some guy just shot them. for, like, wearing cafes and, like, speaking in Arabic.

They weren't, like, it's just, like, just purely a hate crime. And, like, I just sort of say, like, I can't, I'm not sure how to judge, like, in foreign policy stuff, I tend to give presidents a big, a bit of a leeway, except what you're up to, to the limits of stuff, like, starting an optional ground war in Asia. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, if you want to talk intelligent, but, like, how you should fight a war in Afghanistan, you've got to know about, like, what's it called the Darden line? and the history of the partition of Indian Pakistan

and how all the different tribes relate to each other, I don't have to know shit to be like, that seems like a bad idea, let's not do it, right? So like, but like, so I don't know how to give people credit for stuff that hasn't happened yet, but everyone seems to be settling down a little bit. Like Iran told Hezlblen to knock it off.

Us and Iran stopped taking pot shots at each other. Hootis have gone crazy. They hijapped a couple of ships, including one American ship. So that shit's got to correct the fuck out. But like, I was really scared about, you know, my nephew being drafted

to go fight in Iran three weeks ago. Yeah. Fear right now. But the main thing is I can't believe how dumb people have been out loud about all this shit. And the metaphor I thought of about foreign policies,

it felt like people are always trying to like forestall the apocalypse by bailing out a battleship with a plastic cup or something. that's anyway that's why I tend to like be a little bit forgiving about the broad strokes of stuff because we have limited power in the world even though the most powerful country in the world but like the people saying the dumbest stuff out loud like ben Shapiro posted i think the dumbest take in the history of the world the other day he said

the Palestinians would have kicked jesus out of gaza because he was Jewish like my friend ben do you really want to make your cristophascist followers think deeply about what they think the Jewish people did to Jesus? Right. Yeah. Yeah. It is fun. Yeah.

Like, you know, there's two sides here. Right. And Jews or whatever. And coming down, they're like, imagine how badly the Palestinians would have treated Jesus, right?

He might have been, they might have killed him. Which, he might have ended up dead. And I'm not saying the Jews killed Jesus, but that's what they say is that the Jews killed Jesus. So, yeah, it is an odd point to make, right.

Especially at Christmas time. The German government, I don't want to emphasize that, the German government the other day, posted a statement saying that they were seeing anti-Semitism at unprecedented levels in Germany. Now, I'm not saying there's no anti-Semitism and it rising isn't bad. I think it's at least a little bit precedented, though. I think there's some precedent for anti-Semitism in Germany. Call me crazy. So let's continue to ceasefire So everyone stops getting so aggressively

Fucking stupid Yeah I want to get to the vouchers But we have one last clip that I do want to watch Just as like a pallet cleanser If that's cool with you So like for a pallet cleanser Let's see what Liz Cheney's new book has to say

Among other things about Donald Trump And Kevin McCarthy And she writes Get ready Cheney Mara Lago What the hell Kevin Kevin McCarthy.

They're really worried. Trump's not eating. So they asked me to come see him. You went to Mara Lago because Trump's not eating? McCarthy. Yeah. He's really depressed. Okay.

So, all right, first of all right. So this is the wake of January 6th. So this is the wake of January 6th when McCarthy had denounced Trump, when he had a spine for like a minute and a half. Yeah. He apparently made Trump feel bad. So we had a flat of Florida. They'd tuck him in and give him his big. Right. That's what I'm saying. That's what's so funny of it is. First of all, I very much doubt the veracity of this. I'm sorry, that Trump refused to eat, hard for me to believe. Right. He's got, I'm sure he has a McDonald's in Mar-a-Lago, right, presumably. But also, like, the idea that, like, Trump is sitting there, like, fingers or arms crossed in a huff, like, hmm, you know, like, refuse. And then they, like, call in McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy is the guy who gets the call to come in. So Kevin McCarthy shows up and is doing the airplane stuff to Donald Trump. You know what I mean?

like here comes the airplane we you know it's uh it's just what an absurdest hellscape we live in yeah i just like kevin mccarthy yeah doing the little airplane yeah here comes the airplane there comes the airplane yeah to donald trump like the idea that it would be kevin mccarthy who they needed to do that and then him doing that it's just also you know truth of strangers than fiction it's so ridiculous but yeah uh school vouchers they weren't to talk about this for a while. Well, I've been wanting you to talk to me about this for a while. So take it away, Mark.

So I generally assumed they were bad. I didn't really think they were this bad because, like, the thing is like, so people are in favor of federalism, like to call the state's laboratories of democracy. Because in theory, it's like, okay, you got 50 different places, trying 50 different styles of governance. And we see what works. People can copy each other's ideas. States have been, you know, deregulating this process and given out school vouchers for, like,

a while now. So we kind of got a good handle on what it looks like. And it's fucking awful. And despite the fact that it's awful, Tennessee is about to roll out. I think the most expansive version of it in America, where basically in a couple years, every student in Tennessee, which is pretty unprecedented, will be able to have access to this program, which will, you know, withdraw money from public schools to send one kid at a piece to a private school of their choosing with questionable accreditation and a lot of them are clear scams. Yeah. So it's like you hear about it, like on a surface level, like I said earlier, and it's like, well, what it does is it takes, like, Department of Education funding and it allocates it to, you know, ostensibly, some of them say, lower income or children of need, and it gives them the opportunity to go to like a private school. They can pay their private school tuition with that. And like people hear that and they're like, oh, well, that's a nice thing to do. And then you might hear like, like, we were years ago when Bill Haslam was the governor, Tennessee became the first state in the country to make community college free for everybody, for every Tennessee. And right? And that was a major victory. It's like, last time I was proud of my state, right?

And but so then you hear it's like, well, they're expanding it. They're opening it up to everybody. And if you don't look into it or think too much about it, you're like, well, good for them. But there's a lot of reasons why it's total horseshit and actually does not hit. So it doesn't hit for breaking those down. It doesn't it doesn't hit for schools in general, the kids who get the vouchers. The kids are left behind in schools that have less funding. And America in general, because we have a generation.

of dumber of less prepared kids and schools that are crumbling. But just for it like, so since 2021, Arizona, Florida, Utah, and West Virginia created or expanded voucher plans. And here comes Tennessee. And here's a fascinating part about this. So Bill Lee sent out like to his party, to Republicans in the state house, that he was going to propose this and what their talking points should be. And some Republican or Republicans apparently tried to stop him from doing it by leaking

this horrifying plan. so it doesn't even hit for the entirety of his caucus. What this would do is provide funding for students to attend unaccredited private schools with little track of success. I'm quoting from, by the way, I just want to shout out our hero, Phil Williams. Yeah. From News Channel 5, he's the one who got this lead copy of Billy's plan. So everybody.

Real deal fail, buddy. Real deal fail. Yeah. Yeah, he's a G. So he did, he was. scheduled to announce it this afternoon, which he did this proposal. So right now, at the current moment, a number of low and middle income students in Davidson, Davidson, Hamilton, and Shelby counties are entitled to receive about $9,000 a year to attend eligible private schools under this program called the Education Savings Account Pilot Program. It's a pilot program with a few, like, underserved kids in rural counties.

You get $9,000 a year to go to private schools. Pretty small. You said it's not rural counties, though. Those are, that's, that's Nashville. Chattanooga in Memphis. Oh, my bad. So they're doing the bait and switch where they're saying

they're helping underprivileged kids in urban counties. Well, that's amazing. My first recollection of hearing about school vouchers was Betsy DeVos when she became the Secretary of Education under Trump and it became a thing.

I never heard of it before. And I remember when I first heard about how it's supposed to work is like, well, you can, it's to like give kids money so I can go to private school and not public school or whatever. My first thought was like,

I'm from Clay County. I literally do not know where the closest this private school is to my hometown. It's at least an hour plus away, right? Right. Well, like, when you said earlier, some Republicans in the state house don't like this.

I have to imagine they probably represent super, super rural districts or something because, like, I just don't understand. Just from that alone, like rural people, as always, getting fucked more than anybody by any, you know,

given Republican policy. But yeah, this one's like, to me, that's like, before any of the other bullshit, you know, about it,

which there's plenty. Just that alone, it's like, that's not an option for a lot of people. I don't understand how that's supposed to help. They're already underfunded, dude. My school shut down for a while a few years ago because of budgeting issues. When I was in school, I was not bragging.

I was in gifted and gifted is under the special ed umbrella. I was in the same class. I was actually in special ed ed for those gifted classes because special ed and gifted were in the same classroom with the same teacher and we did the same work for budgetary reasons, right? So I got like a hundred in like AP science or whatever, but really I was like making straw towers and molecules and stuff. That's so fucking funny. The tiny one-A school in Clay County, Tennessee. And I'm saying the last thing needs to be happening is that we need to be taking money

away from the public education budget, in my opinion, just what this is for. And like my heart grows out to kids that are trapped in like underperforming public schools. right that like but the solution is not the solution is to like give more funding and resources to those schools not take it away to give one kid a lifeboat that he can't even use because that nine thousand dollars a year you give this kid to go to a private school uh i looked up some numbers nowhere close it's like elementary school started like 11,000 something and high school was like 16 something yeah the and the hidden private schools in tennessee which they don't even take the they don't participate in the voucher program first of all

But they, it's like $30 something thousand dollars a year for tuition of those schools. So this $7,000, it sounds like a lot. I mean, it is a lot of money in a vacuum. But it doesn't, if you're dead broke and they give you 70% of the cost of tuition, you still are not going to be able to come up with the other 30%. Right. So it's like it's an empty gesture. And the good private schools don't take the vouchers is an important element of this.

Yeah. Because money finds a home, right? So if the good private schools don't want the voucher kids because you don't want them dragging down like the test scores or whatnot or are just don't want the riff raft around like and they're they're they're entitled to to to reject whoever they want they'll reject special needs kids because they don't want special needs kids around this is why you need public schools who can't turn right away right um but people fall through the cracks and you have to the government has to step in and

prevent that from happening which is you know that's what public schools are for in addition to other thing and that's why I just can't believe there's any support at all for basically gutting public schools. I can't especially can't believe that it's such a, like a, you know, huge, trendy policy on one side of the political spectrum in this country. It's crazy to me. I think, I mean, obviously, they just don't like public schools at all. Like, Betsy DeVos, who's sort of behind this push nationwide still, even though she's not Secretary of Education anymore. She calls public schools government schools, like, their government and doctrine.

I mean, we do the Pledge of Allegiance, of course, their government indoctrination centers, the government school. But, like, she calls them government schools to, like, vilify them as opposed to, like, just being a public place. Well, I say, I think that's a lot of it with them, too, is I think that, like, you know, another narrative they have going is that these schools are centers of wokeness, woke indoctrination. And it's so funny, me thinking about Salina High School or the schools I went to, like, thinking that those were, like, woke bastions, hilarious. They're the total opposite. And I'm sure any rural school district in Tennessee is the same way. But anyway, it's centers of woke indoctrination, right? And so it's like, this allows them to get kids out of there and go to Jesus schools.

Because also in Tennessee, most of the private schools are Jesus-y, right? And so it's like that they, you know, it's that also don't hit. That's another part of it. So like that's not just J-Z schools because like I had some of my best friends in college went to Catholic high schools in Richmond. And they were smart. They got a good education. there are good jesus schools. Yeah, some of them are good.

It's like a hospital. Some of the hospitals, St. Thomas or whatever, you know, they're like Catholic hospitals and stuff, but they're super legit hospitals. Some of the schools are like that too, yes. But like Trace said, if the good schools won't take the vouchers and money's going to find a home, that's why they're expanding the program to unaccredited schools. So some hustler can open a fake school. And I covered education for a little bit when I was a reporter in Texas.

This happened a lot. You start a charter school with no experience or accreditation. You take a bunch of money from people. and then it's out of business in three years and the kids didn't learn shit, right? That's a lot of this. That's where the poor kids end up. Let's talk about where the rich kids end up

because before we get to that, because first and foremost, the people that use these, 75% of them are already in the private high schools. That's how the private high schools get the voucher money is you're already in the hitting private school and you get free money to the government to send you free money to your house

where you're going to invest anyway. These are well-off suburban kids, which I'm not hate a well-off suburban kids. I'm just saying they don't need the money. Right. It's like it's sort of, it's obviously not corporate welfare, but it's like, you know, it's like when a bunch of people that didn't really need it got like the PPP loans and never paid them back and then they bitch about student loan forgiveness or that sort of thing.

Same thing. It's like, why isn't this socialism? Why ain't this bad? Why ain't this a handout? It's all of those things. It's just that it's going to like primarily well to do suburban people. And they're like, well, no, but see, I'll use it responsibly. See, that's why it's okay that I get it.

Unlike this, you know, trailer trash. who would waste it all on booze and stuff, you know. They're going to spend it all on drugs. It's better that I have it than the government have it, really, because the government's irresponsible too. And I'm a responsible, God-fearing, red-blooded Christian-American. So I'll make good use of it. And that's what makes it different.

Yeah, the poor are just going to spend it on mind-altering substances, whereas I am going to spend it on my cognac collection. So what are the kids who, like, so those the kids, the 75% of the kids, who are already in private school the parents just get free money from the government, all right? But what about the kids who do leave public schools

with the vouchers? Here's some data here. Some of the largest test score drops ever seen in research, in the record of research, between, I don't know how to judge these numbers what the evaluations mean, but the numbers there are not here

are negative 0.15 and 0.50 standard deviations of learning loss. I guess I'm not to parse that, but the expert said it's on par with what the COVID-19 pandemic did the test scores and larger than Hurricane Katrina's impacts on academics in New Orleans. And like, that's, like,

Trace said, that's because the hidden private schools, turn away these kids. Instead, the typical voucher schools are financially distressed subprime private provider often jumping at the chance for tax bailout to stay open for a few extra years. These are just straight up scams. And now we have, I'm not hypothesizing anymore. Like, you ask what's the pitch here, what's the sale? A lot of people fall for this, the selling points are all hypotheticals or lies. Now we have actual data here. In Wisconsin, 41% of voucher schools have closed since the programs in session in 1990, and that includes the number of pop-up schools opening just to cash in on new voucher payout. For those pop-up schools, the average survival time is just four years

before their doors closed for good, all right, which is why these don't hit for educators, these programs. In Tennessee, just the last couple days, Jackson-Madison County School District voted to sue Bill Lee because they'd rejected a charter school commission twice over for being a failing rigged scam of a school sponsored by this liberal like the libertarian think tank with a bad like you know pedagogies up the road

like a bad bad information of the school I've been able to teach you all right and so they're suing Bill Lee for basically the government stepped in and try to make them let this bad scam of a school open but the level of scams here isn't just some like shady person

taking free money from the government to pretend to teach kids while they play video games or whatever you can also homeschool your kid and get free big game through video money. It's from Florida. They changed the rules a couple months ago to allow parents to spend leftover school voucher funds on TVs, kayaks, and tickets to Disney. I mean,

those things do all kick ass and it is Florida we're talking about. So I guess I understand. They're, you know, like, I'm not saying, it's funny, it's just so appropriate that Florida was like,

sure, buy, you know, go to Disney World. Why not? You need a kick-ass TV. That's important. And I can envision a scenario where having a 55-inch TV in your classroom to show nature documentaries or whatever would be good for helping teach students.

I also envision, like having a stand-up paddleboard, which the rules allow, is more fun than just jogging in gym class. But public schools don't have the money to do this shit, and the state won't give it to them. If a teacher wanted a 55-inch TV in her classroom, she'd have to pay for it out of her own fucking pocket, much less a stand-up paddle board. or ticket to ticket kids to Disney. So it's just like it's a two-tiered thing where the government's paying rich kids to fuck off and to have a great time being homeschooled while public school kids

have school lunch debt. Right. You know, it's like, it's fucking, it's ridiculous. And so there's also a thing where we're like conservative skepticism of like people who get free money from the government, which you brought up a little bit earlier, hypothetically speaking, if I was the kind of dirtbag that conservative,

as imagine being on government assistance programs, which is what this is, the government assistance program. Yeah, right. I could just pull my kid out of school, pretend that I'm teaching shit, and get a free kayak in 55-inch TV. Mm-hmm. I mean, especially in Florida.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Right. Yes, I know. Right. Where's the skepticism? That's exactly. If they could not benefit from it, they would be screaming that argument from the mountain tops, right? But because they themselves can get this money that's free,

they keep their fucking mouth shut about it because, you know, they benefit from it. And again, they rationalize it however they need to. But yes, if it was only for poor people exclusively, actually, and had these same stipulations you could spend on TVs and stuff,

dude, we'd never hear the end of this shit. It's like the, one of the biggest buggy man they've had over my lifetime is that exact type of thing. But they're totally fine with it here because it's open to them too. It's just, it's horseship, man. It also worth knowing that like a huge explosion in private schools in the 60s and 70s

were direct responses to integration. Of course. Researchers call them segregation academies. And so like a private school still operate that way. They can turn away anyone for every reason. In Florida recently, a voucher funding school made national news when it banned gay kids. In Indiana, pre-pandemic estimates showed that more than $16 million in taxpayer funds that are already gone to voucher schools with explicit anti-gay admissions rules.

they also don't take special needs kids like I mentioned earlier but like it's so it's another way of saying this is not about parental school choice it's about the schools choosing the fucking students and the libertarians pushing this is being pushed by the Kato Institute and Heritage Institute and the Bessie de Voss's organization in few other places one of the guys pushing Bill Lee to do this is a libertarian like think tech guide by the name of Corey DeAngelis who's big on the front line lines of this. And Phil Williams, God bless him, a hero, dug up an article he wrote back in like

2016, I think, that talks about how good voucher schools are specifically because they get to discriminate. And his arguments are that like discrimination will work its way out in the marketplace. Like if a school won't hire a better teacher because they're black, obviously that school will fail and the school that hires the black teacher will succeed in the marketplace of ideas. So therefore, that'll work. Are you pretending there's no free market for where people will buy things because they're racist what planet do you fucking live on right right part of libertarian horseshit is about how people should be able to customize their educational experiences which is not how education works like shouldn't they

didn't hit for me i still had to learn them right that's necessary you can't just customize everything off a menu an example he used is like if you wanted to start at say an academy for football players, you should be able to do so and have looser educational requirements because it'll be easier to teach the football player's physics if you like use a football as example in physics, all the physics problems, even though it doesn't meet like educational standards. I'm like, got libertarians like are raised in the lab to like have no contact with the real world about it. So to recap here, this is fiscally responsible because it raises costs.

The government's going to be spending more money to educate kids. just because you take money out of the school budgets doesn't mean they don't need that money. You're just paying extra money to fund schools set up to siphon that money and steal it to not teach kids. It's a huge transfer of tax dollars to wealthy family whose kids already attend private. Instead of out as uncredited schools to recruit kids for the money

while destabilizing school financing across the state. So what's the fucking pitch here? It's like we'll spend a lot more money on education but in a way that virtually ensures worse results. locks in massive inequality, dismantle school systems, and creates a boon to unscrupulous operators with no business teaching fucking kids. Sure, but no more wholeness and no more big government, Mark, you didn't think about that, did you?

No more indoctrination. Get everybody in Jesus school where they belong. And, yeah, and, you know, leave behind the people that need to be left behind. A lot of upsides to do it if you're on that side. It's worth pointing out here that conservatives will not often say it out loud, but they fucking hate public schools. They hate them with the big, because they. because they create educated citizens who don't fall for bullshit.

Ronald Reagan supposedly wanted to dismantle public colleges because public colleges were where the anti-Vietnam resistance was or not, dude. Yeah, education is super bad for them. And yeah, they totally know that. Time to wrap it up, but I want to real quick, you're talking about libertarians. Have you ever heard the analogy of libertarians and house cats? So I think it'll hit for you. So analogy goes, and I see it on the internet all the time, libertarians are a lot like

house cats. they are utterly assured of their own fierce independence while being completely dependent on a system that they lack the capacity to understand, which I feel like is pretty accurate. And I'm a huge cat lover. That's totally how they are. The guy was quoting,

lives off right wing wing nut welfare from a billionaire, it pays a Saturday to spit out takes like that. He wouldn't survive five minutes in an actual fucking market economy. He's got no skills. So like, like, but all these are like thought programs. They don't survive contact with the real world because the real world's complicated and messy and some kids need extra instruction and some kids don't. And it's like, like, you can't like, not everything happens in your whiteboard while you're just spitballing ideas. So it's just like it's fucking drives me fucking crazy.

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