Weekly Skews - Weekly Skews 4/04/2023 – Trump’s Arraignment

Episode Date: April 5, 2023

Tonight we're talking about, yes, Trump's arraignment, now that we actually have some details (and courtroom shots). But also we're getting to a death-of-democracy type situation in TN that everyone should know about. Join us. Support the show

what's up everybody welcome back happy skews day to you it's uh april 4th 2023 i'm track router that's mark aji what's up mark oh nothing what's going on over here slow news day uh yeah i don't know what we're going to talk about there's so little going on in the world we just have to talk about uh easter and stuff i guess eggs rabbits things of that nature no bunch of shit going on yeah so yeah good collapse democracy in tennessee uh trump got arraigned then we actually got to look at the uh uh charges which is fun and a poll circus happened in new york and on cable news and everywhere uh and other news uh polls closed at 6 p.m hour time at wisconsin um in this the Supreme Court election.

We talked about that election last week. The left in liberal activists there seem pleased with a turnout. We'll see how that goes. Polls also closed, already closed in Chicago with the mayoral election, the runoff between Brennan Johnson and Paul Valas. So that's a really important election in people in Chicago. Johnson's an activist to an actual left winger, and Paul Valas is a reactionary centrist who, you know, gins up crime.

fears in order to defund schools. So that's a really important. Classic move. Yeah, yeah. So the Wisconsin thing, like people are optimistic? Yeah. Yeah, that's the way. We talked about all the reasons that's important for like trying to break up

gerrymandered districts and the right to vote and not throwing the election to whoever the right wing candidate is next to next presidential election, all that shit, plus abortion. Also, I wanted to send thoughts and prayers to, people of south and midwest so we could rash tornadoes there at least 32 people are dead uh that's going to come up later because Biden Biden uh I'll let there we'll get to it we'll get to it but he's apparently him being nice to people in the Midwest is cynical politics uh whatever uh also update on the story we talked about on the bonus episode so we if you

guys missed that one uh our on patreon subscribers this guy Roy McGrath who was the chief of staff briefly for Larry Hogan and Maryland until he got caught stealing a bunch of money for public coffers. I was awaiting a trial in Florida. Well, the trial was going to be in Maryland, but he was had out of Florida, wrote a fake book under a pseudonym pleading his innocence with a fake identity. He was a movie busted for. Didn't show up for his court date, one of the lamb.

Fed's caught up with him in Knoxville, and FBI agent shot him yesterday and killed him. So it was hard to tell at first because he did that cop speak thing, where like a man died and an agent involved shooting and was like, did he say he killed himself or the by the time the agent shot him yeah dude this guy's life went pretty off the rails huh it's accused of some shit shady shit in maryland next thing you know he's like wanted by the FBI pinning uh like apology books or like pleading his defense but so he wrote like a 52 page book all about how he didn't do any of the shit but he wrote it under pseudonym but everybody knew that it was him and then he gets shot in tennessee uh which is

Yeah, everything crazy is happening in Tennessee. He's really like, I know that this isn't directly related to the state itself. It's just like, it's just nothing but madness in my homeland right now. But this all right, we really, he really went nuts. Between this guy and Trump, are the feds actually doing something about white collar crime? Because it feels like it's like almost no, we're going to talk with the numbers a little bit, but almost nobody gets prosecuted for white collar crime and all of a sudden they're getting fatalities for white collar crime. speaking of the shooting desks

potentially the Las Vegas police object to this but the FBI where FBI documents were released we finally have maybe a motive for the Las Vegas shooter than the deadliest mass shooting in American history

one guy killed 60 people at a country music concert shooting out the window of a casino hotel if you guys remember that one it sort of happened and faded away because no one knew the motive so no one knew how to talk about it politically which is really frustrating for me

that like that things stop if nobody can make hay out of it. It just doesn't become an issue, but 60 fucking people died. Anyway, this asshole's motive turns out to be that he was a professional gambler and wanted to be treated like a high roll out and thought the casinos weren't being nice enough to him, according to the FBI.

I mean, I feel like it's one of those things where it's like when they try to explain it with any one variable like that, it's like maybe that was like the catalyst or the spark that might him be like, I'm fucking, I'm doing it. But like, you know, anybody that's going to do some shit like. that has got a lot of stuff going on, I think, outside of just feeling spurned because you're not being treated like the whale you think you should be by the Bellagio or Mandalay Bay or whatever. Also, I always felt like part of, like you said, it's sort of fact people didn't know to talk about it. I felt like part of that was because it was like a country

music concert. So it's like it was stereotypically speaking, hardcore 2A people, right? the targets of this particular mass shooting and it like was a twist on it that complicated all the pundits in terms of how like you said how they could make hay out of it or how they were supposed to talk about it or whatever. But yeah, I'm sure he had a bunch of things going on. It feels pretty like a lot of these shooters

have this brain disease where the protagonist of reality and they're upset that people aren't treated in the way they want to be treated, right? Yeah. Whether it's like the Columbine shooters who think they should be the kings of the school or like the, you know, know, in cells who think that they deserve more attentionable women or this guy thinking

that the casino should be treated like a big rock star. It's like it feels like there is a through line here. But the main thing is none of these people will be able to be able to inflict their pain on the rest of us. They didn't have weapons of fucking mass destruction. Right. And their disposal will be easily purchased at a fucking Walmart. Yep.

So yeah, that's the way this is political to me. I heard that. And that will come up again, that general idea here in just a second. but first continuing on producer mad is with us as always this is weekly skews before we continue i do want to remind you of course some matters of business real quick number one if you'd like to see me perform live and let's face it you really should go to traycrouter dot com check out all my dates uh still filling up dates in the latter part of uh of 2023 so that is not a final list working on the fall and everything right now but i already got plenty of options on there for you i'll be in portland oregon this here weekend and we're looking forward to it. So go to traycrouter.com. Come and see me. Also, in me news, as you may or may not know,

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in New York City, but how many clowns actually showed up? Well, we'll talk about it and what we now know, the actual details. A little later. But first, let's begin with the Daily Dumbass. Matt, graphic, please. Tonight's D.D., these woke-ass kids today for not wanting to be shot.

This is where else my home state of Tennessee. So you're not going to like my answer. I'm going to say that straight up. It's not about this one gun. If there is a firearm out there that you're comfortable being shot with, please show me which one it is. Oh, God. All right, you cut it back.

All right. So this is a state review. The audio was a little low at the beginning. He said if there's a gun you prefer to be shot with, tell me which one it is. So they could be against you as a threat, but I think he's trying to make some cold-blooded intellectual point that getting shot with a different kind of gun hurts just as bad as you are.

Right. So it's like, yeah, the idea of getting rid of assault rifles or whatever, their whole talking point is like, well, it's not going to make any difference. You can get shot with all kinds of guns. You can get shot with shotguns. You can shot with hand guns. You know, it's like, what, assault rifles?

That's just one type of gun. But it's just like just how everything is a non-starter. Like, I don't know. I could not look, because these are all like young people, right? They're sitting there like, you know, bringing it to this guy's face, being like, hey, why don't you care about our lives? Why can't we do anything about it? And I just would not have the, I don't, guts is not the right word.

I don't know what you would call. Yeah, I'm just not a big enough of a piece of shit to have that kind of response directly to their face and be like, look, we're not going to, we're not going to do anything to keep you, to try it, to even try it to prevent you from being shot at school. So just nut up and get over it, okay? Which is essentially their platform. And I don't, it's so wild to me.

Here's the thing about this. Like this type of, this happens like court cases all the time, drives me crazy. But these, you talk about this stuff academically, right? Now, understand his point. You can be shot with all kinds of guns. But you legislate in the real world and somebody needs to ask this guy, why is it always a fucking ER 15? Why is it always an air 15?

it's like because it's a very effective weapon for killing a bunch of people in a short amount of time and the like it just won't recommend I've been shot by a shotgun before I'm still here I was like I got peppered the honey accident no big deal but the idea that like a pump shotgun has three rounds in it

and you got a pump like even if you take out like the government like the government restriction devices it'll hold like five six shells tops you got to reload those are much less effective for a fucking mass shoot they just are And this guy, if you want a little bit of his background, he's horrifically anti-gay, obviously, he's a Republican in Tennessee. But not as he, like, evil, but he's straight up fucking corrupt. Let me quote read this to you.

In 2022, after accepting $50,000 in campaign donations from Jack Janiels and other alcohol suppliers and pharmaceutical companies, he embarked on a personal crusade to ban all forms of cannabis in Tennessee, he's hating greater than 0.3% T.AC. So he took a payoff for big pharma. and booze companies to try to stop legalized weed, which is just, we've talked about this dynamic before, but that's the only thing holding back legalized weed anymore. Yes. Asholes like this and booze companies and pharma companies.

But this is just part of a whole bunch of crazy shit going on in Tennessee right now. Yeah. This is like we, I wanted to make, I knew you would have it on the outline for the show anyway, but I wanted to make sure we talked about it because I feel like this, along with the Wisconsin Supreme Court thing, are like two stories in American politics right now. They're maybe flying a little bit under the radar because of the, the shit going on with Trump and this one in particular people really need to know about so the Tennessee House is trying to expel three of the Democrats in the House after they had a

protested as part of a gun control protest apparently technically speaking they broke a house rule for speaking without permission and so that's the grounds they're trying to use to expel them it's happened only three times in 200 years the two times it's happened in modern history the lawmakers who were expelled literally committed crimes and then the only other time was in 1866 when some lawmakers refused to come in to vote on the 14th amendment that's the only times that this has ever been done before and now they are uh taking this action again because three democrats in the state house uh had the gall and the audacity to speak up in defense of and support for uh you know the children the kids of tennessee who want to see some gun control measure

And that's pretty much it. That's really all they've done and they're getting kicked out. I mean, this is like fascism inaction. It's like abjectly non-democratic. Like they were, these people were elected by constituents to hold this job. And, you know, you didn't like the way they talked to you. So you're just going to kick them all out, just carpe talents, just like that. I mean, it's egregious and it's horrific and it's bullshit is what it is.

Yeah. So what happened was a bunch of kids walked out of school. last few days and a bunch of kids and other protesters took like a filled the gallery at the Tennessee house and were chanting stuff about how Republicans are cowards for not enacting gun laws and these three reps took leadership of the chance including taking a bullhorn onto the floor of the house now they're Democrats in Tennessee they don't have a lot of power this is literally all they can do is embarrassed Republicans and that's what they did and now they're being fucking silence board each be each represented by 80,000 people so a quarter million people are about to be

disenfranchised um because uh you know they hurt republican fee fees uh guns don't kill people tray of bullhorns do now um yeah i mean that you know they're being like they literally offended these overly sensitive snowflakes and are being canceled for it right you know like that's actually what's happening and it's just so you know they're immune the other side they're immune to irony man it's inside the uh there's a bunch of uh not going into any sorts of specifics or even nearing specifics because we can't because we don't have betrayed confidence as matt has a bunch of organizing connections in tennessee and he's heard about a bunch of worse shit going on there lately that we can't talk about but it's fucking horrific and it's getting bad um i wanted to talk about

one bit of good news though we talked about the drag band there uh a drag group called friends of George, partnered with the LCA, ACLU to follow a lawsuit to stop the enactment of Tennessee's drag ban. And they won. And they won in front of a fucking Trump judge. This thing was so bad. So anti-First Amendment that it offend the sensibilities of a Trump judge. The judge Thomas Parker, he blocked the law for 14 days.

And the injunction might be extended further than that. And he, quote, if Tennessee wishes to exercise its police power and restricting speech, it considers obscene. must do so within the constraints and framework of the United States Constitution. The court finds that as it stands, the record here suggests that when the legislature passed this statute and missed the mark. So that's that's bars on the court. That is. Yeah, in court terms, absolutely that's bars.

Yeah, that's satisfying, man, especially coming from a Trump judge. It's like, it's, I mean, it's, that's why it's so upsetting when, when, like, Trump appointed judges are, like, the type of full-bore lunatics you expect them to be. because, like, a lot of judges still, you know, try to maintain some semblance of, like, judgeness, impartiality, fairness, justice, things of that nature, alien concepts to some, but, but yeah. Yeah. There are right-wing judges who are saying they're just increasingly fewer and far between. But, yeah, the protests that have been going on in Tennessee among kids and, you know, young people in general, are far large.

than those objecting to Trump's arrest that showed up today in New York but guess which one the media is focused on I know we're part of the problems we're about to talk about it because it's the main thing in the news and part of what we do is make fun of news coverage so we're going to do a lot of that tonight but I wanted to show you this

and say that I fully agree with these kids in front of the Tennessee State House fuck Bill Lee fuck Bill Lee that clip was the first thing to make me realize this is neither here nor there but that his like his full name is so is like is billy you know governor billy which just you know same fit. No, he's a huge piece of shit, but yeah, I don't know. I thought that was funny. But we only have, go ahead, go ahead. I'm just eyeballing that, but it looks like

several thousand people at least. And if you guys are wondering, how people showed up in Manhattan that they did a protest for trunk. Trump, I saw the estimates between 20 and 50 people. We're talking about what we're valuing in society and what's important. This type of shit's fucking important. All right. Right. Whether or not one guy gets six months of health arrest for some fucking weird financial shit. He ought to pay his taxes.

That's the crime here. But this is so fucking dumb. It is. Speaking of so fucking dumb, guess who? Marjorie Taylor Green is our only honorable mention for Daily Dumbass tonight. Well, I guess, well, technically the honorable mention is cops for trying to stop Nelson Mandela for making America great again. But this comes from large brain margin this clip out here. President Trump is joining some of the most incredible.

people in history being arrested today. Nelson Mandela was arrested, served time in prison. Jesus, Jesus was arrested and murdered by the Roman government. There have been many people throughout history that have been arrested and persecuted by right. I got to say one thing I'll give her is I'm kind of stunned that she didn't, you know, blame the Jews. You know, she talked about Jesus getting murdered and she is who she is. And I feel like it took some restraint. on her part to say the Roman government instead of the Jews, as I'm sure she probably actually believes. That's how low the bar as far as I'm like, well, you know, she could have done that and she didn't. So at least there's that. Now, this is fucking hilariously absurd. I can't, this

shit keeps driving. I saw somebody, I saw another right wing influencer or whatever on Twitter today. I guess, I guess Martin Luther King got arrested on April 4th one year. I don't even know if that's true. But that's what they said. They had a picture of Trump beside a picture of Martin Luther King, and it was like on April 4th, 1962 or something like that, Martin Luther King was arrested. On April 4th, 2023, you know, coincidence or whatever, you know, like I just, it's, it kills me.

It's like there's some pretty huge differences between these cases, between Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, and yeah, Jesus and Donald Trump's case is like the audacity to, but it's, I don't know, dude, it's so absurd. This is the dumbest timeline imaginable. And we, well, I don't know, I shouldn't say that. It's dumbest so far. It could get dumber and it wouldn't surprise me. So we'll see.

Yeah. I thought about this before, but in, uh, uh, you know, like 17, 1800s, New England, if a guy got caught fucking a sheep, they would, they would murder the sheep too to prevent human sheep hybrids from being, uh, being born. Yeah. No, I know. I've actually got a whole stand-up bit about how I don't think we're getting dumber just because of how dumb people used to be. So, yeah, I mean, that's what I tell myself, you know, over and over again. So, let's talk about the Trump arraignment, indictment, the charges and shit.

But I wanted to start this clip from CNN yesterday before anyone knew what was in the indictment because it killed me. got this clip, Matt. He's working on it. I see him. He's clicking on it. He's clicking on it. Yeah, we could see in the docker. We could see when Matt's moving around and stuff. We can see when he's asleep at the wheel. And our politics lead a significant majority. 60% of the American people tell CNN in a new poll that they approve of the indictment of Donald Trump. Democrats are nearly universal in their support. I'm 94% say they approve the indictment.

I was going to say who are the 6% of Democrats who don't approve. But I wonder if it's like one. I saw like I saw my old buddy Bill Maher making the argument that it was not a good idea. And it's like, no, you got to do. That's not the point, right? It's like if you broke the laws, fucking you have to do it. But I'm saying maybe it's, I just thought, who are the six. that don't agree.

And then I thought, well, maybe it's the ones they're like, oh, we're playing right into their hands. This is going to backfire. That's what's going to happen. We're making a mistake. It's going to add fuel to the fire. That whole, that whole thing. It's got to be something like that.

What killed me about this was no one knew what the charges were yet. No one knew what the charges were yet, but 60% of Americans are like, yeah, just put it in a fucking jail. It's just like, I mean, I don't, I understand the impulse. We know we did some shit. I don't know what I'm doing the things of this. but we know he did a bunch of shit, and it sucks. So, like, yeah.

But it's just like, that's how, like, we're a deeply authoritarian country all across the political spectrum. And I'm, like, yeah, I'm a total hypocrite on this because I'm basically a borderline prison abolitionist except for five people. And Donald Trump's one of them. Right. The, yeah, so Trump got a raid today. And the act is 34 felony charges, all 34 were falsifying business records in the first

degree. It's basically 17 different crimes, but the 17 different crimes relied about in two different places. and like Trump's taxes and Michael Cohen's taxes that the Trump organization filed. So that's my reading anyway. I'm not a lawyer. But, um, uh, so forgive my wading into legal shit here because I am only, uh, half understanding of it. I, what I do is I watch a bunch of law and order and then I text Drew.

Uh, so basically from August 2015 to December 2017, uh, Trump orchestrated the scheme with others to influence the 2016 presidential election by identifying and purchasing negative information about himself to suppress publication and benefit the defendants electoral prospects. So the reason to bring an election stuff in this, we'll get to in a second, but there are basically three payouts here they're talking about. One was Stormy. One was Karen McDougal, who's the Playboy Playmate.

He had a long-term affair with. Storming, he just fucked once as far as anybody knows. And third was a doorman at an old Trump building who had a story that Trump followed a kid out of wedlock in like the 80s or 90s. And he was trying to sell that story. The story appears to be utter bullshit, but they still took the act of covering it up. But what Trump did was he had David Pecker, who owned National Enquirer, paid for the rights to his story, and then not run it.

So they basically got it. Okay. Yeah. All right. I was wondering, I've been confusing where the National Enquirer guy came into it. So Trump, like, paid him to purchase the story, but then bury it? It's not even clear he paid it. It might have been done as a favor.

Yeah. Okay, because at first I thought that he was like one of the people that Trump, like, paid off for something. I was going to be like, fucking the National Enquirer. Like, who, what, you know, let them say whatever the hell that. Like, I didn't know they were breaking news anyway. You know what I mean? Oh, they broke the John Edwards affair. That was their story.

Yeah, I'm just saying they say all kinds of shit. I thought it, I had misunderstood and thought that he was like hushing them also. And I was like, I think I probably would just save that money. I get hushing the other people. but you know the fucking inquirer but that's not the point it makes sense that trump's like on good enough terms with the guy that runs the national inquire to be to have like favors called in or whatever it's it's funny yeah there's not a shithead in the world that trump doesn't have in his rolodex it's not see what it comes down to but uh yeah so cariband dougal they did the same

the national inquirer their parent company am i did the same thing with car mcdougal where they they bought the exclusive rights to her story that never did anything with it's which What they basically did was they trick these people into signing NDAs that didn't know they were signing when they were trying to tell their story. But that's not an element of the crime here. Basically, it's a, if you want to get into election fraud, finance election donation schemes, they're saying the $130,000 that he paid Jeremy Dougal was like an in-kind election donation because it was intended to benefit Trump's campaign for president, but the donation was way larger than, you know, you're allowed to donate to a candidate, right? So there's all that. That's a part of it. They appear to have audio tapes probably from Michael Cohen that where Trump clearly states his intent, his motive, to just to get elected because he says that he doesn't even want to pay them. He's trying to delay payment until end of the new year when he's already taken office and he doesn't care if it becomes public. So his argument that he's trying to protect his family and spare his wife's feelings doesn't make any fucking sense because he didn't care if she knew about it. Which, by the way, she already knew about it.

Stormy had already given interviews about this shit, waited to In Touch magazine like 10 years. years earlier. He just like everybody had forgotten about it. He didn't want it back in the news as he was running for president. So anyway, all this seems pretty paint by numbers. Um, like when you do crimes on paper, the problem is they're on paper and you wrote them down. So if you got the recordings to his motive and you got the actual actions on paper, it seems like fairly paint by numbers. Now, what they haven't dead to rights on is a misdemeanor of 34 misdemeanors. All right. Okay, which is what, or what's the difference? vast amount of jail time.

No, no, no, I mean, I'm saying you say they're having dead rights on the misdemeanor. What's the, I don't know, just elaborate on that. I'm also law dumb. What do you make, like, what they haven't said what? They got indictments for the felonies, but the, oh, it becomes a felony if the, if the falsifying business records is in furtherance of a second crime. And they haven't said with a second crime matter. Everyone's guessing that, but they held some stuff back in the indictments.

The best anyone's guess is, is in order to achieve tax benefits or achieve, like, we'll get to it in a minute, but New York law is written much wider and vaguer than federal law, where it's, if in order to obtain another benefit, it doesn't have to even be financial, like, tax benefits. It could be, like, reputational benefit that allows you access to, like, say, becoming president of United States, all right? Okay. So, well, but that's going to be a lot of legal haggling over that. Trump's next court hearing on this case isn't until December 4th. Yeah, but I mean, I guess I'm not, I feel like anytime I've ever heard about, you know, the gears of justice or whatever, I've always been like taking aback at how, you know, the glacial pace at which they move. So I shouldn't be surprised, but damn, December 4th.

You rob a liquor store. You can be tried, convicted, and executed in the parking lot before you get in your car. Yeah, well, it's only, yes, absolutely. I'm only like the, like, real high, every high profile case ever, it seems like, gets drug out and takes just a fucking eternity, it feels like. Yeah. Anyway, today was a lot of fun. I wanted to show you this police sketch because I have no idea whether they just sketch, the sketch artist hates Trump, but I would think so. That's the fucking Grinch trait.

Yeah, 100%. That, uh, that literally looks just like the Grinch, but, uh, why are they, because I also saw a picture of him in there, right? there's a picture of him sitting there. Who? We, like, does the court employ the sketch artist? Are they a court employee? Nah, these are they working newspapers. Okay, I thought that their whole thing was like because of a, like,

when cameras weren't allowed in courts and stuff. So they got to sketch it and shit like that. All right. So. Yeah, you know a little bit about this. Cameras aren't usually allowed in New York courts at various state to state. because of the high profile nature of this, the media interest, they did a lot of cameras at the beginning to take pictures of everyone sitting down.

Then they all had to leave. Okay. Later on during the hour long or whatever. Gotcha. Okay. Did you know any sketch artists when you were a journalist? Did you know the guy who did the sketches for the newspaper or whatever? Like, how you get that job?

We had, we could take cameras in. Okay. It wasn't a thing in Texas. Not part of Texas I worked in anyway. So let's do a little more legal broccoli eating before it gets a lot of fun. and there is fun here. So I've seen different people talk about the strength of this case

and it's basically like national media thinks the case is weak and I saw a lot of New York lawyers say, no, no, you don't get it. This is actually, this is, you know, pretty buttoned up. So the son of the national take for a second here. Here's a headline from Vox, the dubious legal theory

at the heart of the Trump indictment. Basically, they think the second crime to hang the felony on is federal election fraud. All right. So they don't think, you can hang a state felony who's, you know, what do you call it? You know, I don't have the word for it.

The accelerator, the other thing, the additional component is a federal offense. They don't think you can do that. But also, New York has state election laws. And also cheating under state taxes is also a crime. So I don't really understand that. But there's another legal principle here that comes into play here, too, where the Supreme Court could crush this. It's called the rule of lenity. All right.

The basic idea is that lenity, lenity, I've never heard it spoken out loud, I've only read it. So forgive me lawyers from getting that wrong. But the basic idea is the state has to make clear what's illegal before they can convict you of a crime, right? It can't just, like, trick you into doing something you unknowly didn't know was illegal or change the definition of the law behind the scenes without letting you know it, right? So if he could appeal this is in court and be like, they never prosecuted anyone else for crime like this. How was I supposed to know as illegal? And they'd be like, yep. And in general, I think this is a good principle.

And they have applied it to regular Joe's, not just for it successful people. It would just appear to be complete another bullshit at the Supreme Court with, you know, three justices, Trump personally important, reached down to, like, solve him of guilt of this. But I thought that like, so this is only in cases of like really, like, nebulous laws or like more obscure laws or shit like that. Because I'd always heard like some version of like ignorance of the law is no excuse. or like the old Dave Chappelle, but, you know, it's like, I'm sorry, officer, I didn't know I couldn't do that, right? And it's like, well, now you know.

And like, I've heard that just, you know, the idea of not knowing you couldn't do some shit, been made fun of a lot. Yeah. Like, legitimate version of that very thing where it's like, if there's no reasonable expectation that a person could have known

that what they were doing is illegal, like generally across the board, then that is unfair. Because, I mean, I'm kind of with you in terms of, Like, that sounds like a pretty okay thing in principle, you know. Yeah. Yeah, it is in principle, but like it doesn't, it's not, but again, that they, I've complained about this before, but like, the ignorance is no excuse thing really doesn't apply on white collar law.

Like, you have to prove intent. You have to prove intent. So, like, you've got to knowingly violate the law here. And I would seem that like, the lie seems to be the proof to me. Yes. Why would, why would you lie? Right. On paper about what you're paying Michael Cohen to pay Swarmy Damos for.

if you didn't think you, if you didn't want anybody to find out or didn't know it was illegal. But that anyway, like, right. Lawyers are going to be talking about this for like three years. So no point getting too deep in the weeds of it. But as far as why the New York lawyer is saying it isn't a weak case, they're basically saying that under New York law, like I said, fraud doesn't have to involve property or money. It can include intangibles like political benefit or frustrating the state enforcement of law, like tax law or, you know, like federal or like. election laws. Plus, it's the same crime again, Cohen already pleaded guilty to, which is pretty clear evidence that Trump knew it was illegal. Anyway, so white color crime. So if you wonder, like, this shit never gets prosecuted. That might be in the best defense. It's like, how can you prosecute me for this? You don't prosecute literally anybody else for this. Right. I, uh, on my other podcast putting on air as we talk about fancy people stuff. I did an episode about doing crimes. It was like, I try to, like, draw, like, look at where there's a place where, like, fancy people and trash people overlap, right?

And so, like, they both do crime. Of course, every type of person does crime, but you get what I mean. And so in doing that, I was looking up white-collar crimes statistics. Who's more likely to commit crimes that, you know, rich people, poor people, that type of shit? And in looking into it very quickly, we can't, like, some sites fucking, you know, business inside or whatever we'll talk about. And it's like white collar crimes at a record low. It's all it's gone off a cliff in recent years. You know what I mean?

It's down like it's the numbers are way down and all this stuff. And it's so clear that it's like they're just not getting in trouble for it or like they're not they're not getting caught or prosecuted or whatever. And it's happening at a, you know, a higher rate than ever. But yeah, they just, it just kind of just is allowed to happen generally speaking. I don't know what makes the line that you crossed where they actually will do something about it. if it's just like totally egregious or you piss off the wrong other rich person in the process or something like that.

Usually it's if you rob from other rich people. Yeah, right. But like the most common type of theft in America is wage theft. It doesn't go in crime statistics because it's not technically illegal. It's a civil violation. So your boss can just not pay you money he owes you.

And the best you can do is taking a court over it. Right. So there's nothing, that's not considered theft. But even though if I take money out of your mailbox, box so you don't you no longer have to buy food and pay rent with that's a crime if i hire you for a job and don't pay you the money you need to eat and pay rent uh with then that's perfectly legal you just got to take me to court so tell me who has the power here but let's let me talk about some numbers here for a second uh these numbers are uh the most reasons i could i could

find for uh from 2019 in 2019 white color prosecutions fell are the lowest levels since researchers started tracking them in 1998 And most of those are against low-level con artists and small-fri financial schemes, not the big people doing the worst damage. Since 2015, criminal penalties levied by the Justice Department have fallen from $3.6 billion to roughly $110 million. So that's basically fallen from a lot to nothing. Illegal profits seized by the SEC have reportedly dropped by more than half. In 2018, a year when 19,000 people were sentenced in federal court, that's not where most drug cops are prosecuted state court, 19,000 people were sentenced in federal court for drug crimes alone.

Prosecutors convicted just 37 corporate criminals who worked at firms with more than 50 employees. So if this was happening in 2019, Trump will be one of 38 people. That's so crazy, dude. Yes. Because it's like you, I mean, you just, you know, beyond the doubt, when no, like, statistics or evidence required, like, you just know that there's, whatever much it's happening, it's more than 37 people. Do you know what I mean? And just imagine the sheer level at which these motherfuckers are committing crimes out here because it's basically okay to do. Like, all that does is incentivize them further to keep doing it.

If they know they're not going to get in trouble for it, that's kind of the whole thing here, which is part of why, you know, this case ostensibly should be important is that very concept. We talked about those assholes in the SVU bank collapse who confessed to intentionally, causing a bank run to drive a stock price down and think of buy it because they thought it was still a solid investment. That's a fucking crime. They tweeted and tweeted out. Yeah.

So Trump's supposedly given a speech right now. I don't know. I hope he, if I'm his lawyer, I would have tried to talk him out of it. Because the, this cable news car on from today, it was just like, who do you guys think this guy is, all right? I'm ready to it. AIDS. Trump not planning to speak publicly about arrest in New York if he follows

legal's team's advice to hold back on vitriol. Right. His advice to hold back on vitriol. Yeah. Two things he's known for following his legal team's advice and holding back on vitriol. He never fucking listened. That's why they get fired all the goddamn time.

That's two things you don't do with his lawyers. Listen or pay them. He was already tweeting vitriol on the plane ride back to Florida. All right. There were like rumors. He was truthing. He was truthing.

Yeah. So, yeah, truthing. boast on true social There were theories They might get hit with a gag order But of course that's extremely problematic But it's very hard to get gag orders in general But also Trump's running for president

So like it's a real tough balancing test here Between free speech versus the right to a fair trial Because the point Taint Trump will taint the jury pool Just not in the way that he thinks Everyone is fucking sick of this motherfucker All right So a gag order would ironically

Give him a much better case to get off But you got in a country where 60% of people wanted him to go to jail before they even knew what he was charged with. He's not going to get a fair trial. It's going to be fucking impossible. So, by the way, after the judge in the hearing told them to please watch the rhetoric because Trump had basically threatened the life of D.A. Alvin Bragg and called them an animal. Don Jr. and Eric both posted a picture of the judge's daughter on truth. I mean. All right?

Good Lord. Keeping it classy, man. Yeah. Trump's defense attorneys opposed, this is so funny. Everyone's trying to act like this is a normal court proceeding. Trump's defense attorneys opposed on cameras in the courtroom. They wrote to the judge saying, we have grave concerns that audiovisual recordings with Tomorrow's Arama

will only further exacerbate an already almost circus-like atmosphere around this case. Who's bringing the fucking circus, dog? Who's bringing circus? He's the one that told the clowns to show up, you know? And he encouraged them to show up and show their ass. Remember, Trump's lawyers complaining about the circus. They gave a long speech in front of the courthouse surrounded by the few Trump supporters. And they were there along with like thousands of media.

And listen to these guys talk and ask me if they don't want the circus. That incites. Guys, here's what we're going to talk about today. That's a human leg. That's a mannequin leg. I don't know this case. And I will say this to you. Today's unsealing of this.

indictment shows that the rule of law died in this country because everyone is not above the law no one's below it either and if I'm going to tell me the lawyer in a minute yeah he's a fucking lunatic but yeah while he's talking if you guys listen to the podcast version someone's

holding a mannequin leg over his head that has a wedding garter on it I don't fucking know what's going on but it's definitely sort of like to me all right well okay I was going to ask you know if I was just missed it like that hits for me regardless but I was wondering for some added added lever of like level of clever context or something

and I was missing with the mannequin legs specifically. Okay. Not that I can think of. Still helps. Let's talk about the circus. All right. So this is a regular day at the courthouse also. So a bunch of people were there just getting married.

They already had their weddings scheduled. So they're fighting their way through this crowd to get married by Justice of the Peace. If you're there to get your divorce, at least they added some levity to it, I guess. There was, like I said earlier, there's way more media there from protesters. If you wonder what the vibe of the protesters

like here's one guy who hit for me if you got this picture about or i guess man i can see you in there uh somebody came up to me at a show after a show and uh where was that i was in minneapolis somebody came up to me and they had like i think they'd had a shirt made or something we really should make more shirts it says uh it says tray and then like this is tray saying this says tray producer matt throw up that graphic and then it says producer matt colon parentheses, not a damn thing happens for 45 seconds. The picture of the top, right, Mac. Click on that for us.

There he is. So there's a... Red blood of an American man right there. Yeah. So he's wearing American flag bib overall shorts. No more respectful treatment of the flag in my imagination. No shirt under it. And also, those are pretty tight.

I don't see an underwear line. I think he's going command. Yeah. Oh, God. The one notable protester showed up. I think George Santos is there too, but he didn't talk or talked to anybody or anything. But Marjor Taylor Green was there. And she tried to give a speech, but another Trump supporter there for some reason had handed out whistles to everybody. They're all tooting on their whistles. So nobody could run out of there pretty quick, didn't she? That's how I saw it being represented. Because she thought the whistles were people shouting her down where they were. cheered her on with the hooting whistles and she basically did a rant and she went on Steve Bannon's podcast immediately talking about basically Antifa was whistling at her but they were yeah they saw an interview

Ben Collins from NBC interviewed the whistle guy and he couldn't have a good reason why he ended up whistles he just did it because it hit for him uh anyway so George Soros distributed the whistles or something and so Trump tried to gin up all this fucking violence and I started written an interview with an expert who follows online

right wing radicalism and basically he's saw nothing out of the ordinary going on like there's a bunch of psychos and of course you can't stop one this one lone wolf psycho or a couple people from teaming up to do on some damage but there's nothing approaching the levels of like uh january six level enthusiasm involving any of this which is good news you know um but what i want to talk about was the news coverage of this because it was fucking embarrassing show this video matt The luggage is starting to come out from the bottom. So my guess is that they don't want to get off the plane until the luggage is in the cars.

That way they can just come down the stairs and then be ready to go. So we're just kind of watching this. This is all day yesterday. Yeah. Cable news followed Trump's, what do you call? The cars driving motorcade. Motorcade to the airport in Palm Beach. Yeah.

They washed him bored. They had news carriers. was waiting before we landed in New York. They watched his luggage. Then he watched his motorcade go down the FDR Expressway in New York. They've watched him walk into Trump Tower. None of this is anything. It's nothing.

Their kids are fucking protesting in Tennessee, right? There's tornadoes in the south and the Midwest. There's like, there's real fucking shit going on in the country. And they can't let this up go. Again, the poll we showed up top. 60% of Americans want this guy to go to fuck away and they cannot let go of him. But they, like, this is pretty much. the peak of CNN's coverage.

I mean, quote a reporter here. There are so many doors in this courtroom, many hallways of these doors, so there are many doors to choose from. They were just doing an open-ended discussion about which door Trump was going to come. Yeah. insightful, insightful stuff there. I mean, I've, like, it's like, they're just not going to cover anything else, but also, like, there hasn't been a lot of new information. Like, even in this part, it's like, okay, he's flying to New York to be arraigned.

We know that, but that's going to take a day for, you know what I mean? And then in the interim, nothing new is going to, like, be found out or said, but they're not going to stop talking about it all. So they end up talking about his luggage and the number of doors in the courtroom and shit like that. It's pretty pitiful. Yeah. And that's our left wing. They're still Trump obsessed. They're Trump obsessed from like CNN's like like a dog, like a zoo animal.

MSNBC is addicted to like shitting on him. And then Fox is who hates him behind the scenes, but their audience loves him. So they're caught in this fucking middle lane where they can't not defend him, which looks like this when it filtered through the eyes of Tucker Carlson. What is this? Well, the name of this system of governance is anarcho tyranny. You get state-sponsored anarchy accompanied by political tyranny. What is this? State-sponsored anarchy, Trey.

Yeah, imagine something like that. state sponsored how to how horrific would that be if people uh if you know the state instigated us you know an anarchist an anarchist an anarchist a bunch of fucking anarchy especially if like it happened at the capital uh or something like that that was crazy uh instead of manhattan but yeah and our tyranny of anarchy isn't a thing like i'm not an anarchist they're opposite they want no governments there can be no tyranny right yeah exactly Anarchy's the lack of tyranny and it's extreme. Right.

Yeah, right. So by the way, the language he was using there as state-sponsored Anarchy was created by a white nationalist in the 90s. Like, this guy's like a well-known white nationalist writer. And it first showed up in a magazine screen where he was ranting about the evils of Seat-Loss. There you go. All right.

So I would advise everyone to please. you stop watching cable news like the it just makes you fucking dumber man there's nothing like there's nothing there worth talking about the except to make fun of like we do but the they read this piece today called the title of it was the more you scroll the less you know and a quote of this uh jackson brown song from the 90s pretty pressantly called information wars talked about where he talked about the comforting glow of the living room tv set says you get the world every night as a tv show the last spin on the shit we're in blow by blow and the more you watch the less you know and i was like yeah that pretty much so

sums up the area we're fucking in. Because even like, even if you like watch, these people will talk about the charges, but they won't even go into the legal analysis that I tried to give where it's actually what's good, like what's actually in this shit. They won't even do that. They just talk about the political effects of it. All right. So let's talk about Trump's lawyer, the guy with a leg over his head.

His name is a Joe Takapina. Great name. All anyone knows about the guy is like it basically has client's been in the past. And he's been the news a bunch before. He's not a lot of high-profile clients. But Trump's other lawyers don't like him. Here's the headline of the Rolling Stone. Trump's team blast his lawyer is dumb loudmouth.

A third source familiar with the matter calls Tacopina such a freaking idiot. Well, he sounds like for the job to me. Also, like, I don't know, like, I mean, I can't be surprised at this point. Trump's not picking from the cream of the crop anymore. You know what I mean? Like how many lawyers he ran through in his time there? And how many times did they come out and said he never paid them and all that shit? Like, you're going to end up.

But this dude, this dude's had some high profile stuff, though. Yeah, Mick Mill. I represent Mick Mill, who Mick Mill was, should, shouldn't, was getting railroaded. So this guy helped to get him out. Good, good in for that. He represented Alex Rodriguez, the legendary Yankee slash Texas Rangers slash Seattle Maritor. He also, he won both those cases, but he also had a, he had a pretty high profile flame out with former New York

Police Commissioner Bernie Carrick, who's a great eight shitbag. And so I'm not, no idea why those two hate each other, but Bernie Carrick's a big Trump supporter, so I don't know how they're all working that out. But he also helped Lillo Broncato, who's the guy who played math. You remember Matthew

Bevelaqua in the Simpson? Sorry, the Sopranos. I'm tired. I'm tired, Trey. So the actor played Bevaluqua. He was the guy that Tony and Big Pussy killed for taking a shot at Chris in I think season two.

That guy He was him and Big Pussy had to be anyway, it doesn't matter, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, Lilo Brancato was the actor who played him and Joe, for his name, Tocopina, helped this guy get off

for killing a cop. He killed it off duty cop. Well, what would happen to that guy? I didn't know he got into drugs and killed him off the car. Yeah, I'd never heard that. I didn't know that was a thing. That's why.

If I had heard it, I'd forgotten it. But, yeah. Yeah. Taco Pena. What a while. It's like, I wish his, I was his middle name. His last name was Calada. Taco Pena, Kalada.

Sounds like, it's just fun night out at your local Mexican place, you know. Anyway. He also represented Yorin Vander's Flute and the disappearance of Natalie Holloway. So really like a good, just a eclectic grab bag of various types of shitheads here, except for meek Mill who rules. So that's the guy in charge of Trump's legal defense. Let's talk about his political defense for a second. Um, previously mentioned this clip. This is the, uh, Wilcato Fox News. While everyone is talking about Trump's indictment, he's out of his basement and he's on his

best behavior. Today, he went to visit tornado victims in Mississippi. And he's trying to paint a picture for the American people. One of us is here to help you. The other one is about to get arrested. It's all right. That's reality. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. It's like that what I don't, I don't understand how what that was supposed to be like do you know what I mean like you said it's like that's just that didn't make any sense to me from the perspective of it being on Fox News is what I'm saying it's like that I don't even I don't understand that's supposed to it's like yes that is that is what he's one of us is here to help you the other one is going to be arrested oh it's because it's so calculated it's calculated political and cynical that's what they're saying yeah uh like

It's like, it's unfair, and that's why they're mad. It's unfair for you to do the right thing if it also benefits you. Right. Yeah, right. Yeah. That's just cynical. Yeah, yeah. So we're running out of time, Matt.

We can skip these last few videos. I'll just describe them real quick. So the other defense is essentially Stormy's a greedy whore because she's already profit off this by selling sex toys and shit, which is fine. That's the American way, baby. But by the way, what they're calling a stormy a greedy whore for profiting off this, Trump already claims to raise $4 million off the indictment, and his campaign is offering free t-shirts and donations about a certain threshold. He's already also making a t-shirt with a fake mugshot on it, which really hit for me because if you look at the height charts behind him, he made himself over six foot five feet tall.

Yeah, that checks out. Oh, God. A special prison lift song. Marco Rubio made a video in the front seat of his car tray really ripping you off, really ripping you off where he talked about how this sets a dangerous precedent because what if other prosecutors try to make a name for themselves by making cases?

I was like, imagine a dystopian world where prosecutors try to gin up clout for themselves by making bullshit cases. Wouldn't that be a terrible fucking country? Yeah. Yeah, because they're going to, they're, you know, running for DA or mayor or whatever or something like that got to make a name for themselves it's like every day in america yeah right yeah every fucking day the another commentator of fox news

tried to make this did this really tortured analysis where he said this is not just cancel culture it's the cancel justice system i'm like okay guys you're trying too fucking hard on this just say you think the case is bullshit if you think it's bullshit you don't like you don't have to do this also I thought if it's going to be great for him you know what I mean like this is actually a good thing then in what way is it canceling him or whatever like how you know you can't have it both way I mean but they they do often have it both ways even though it doesn't make any sense because they don't give a shit but yeah it doesn't make any sense if you strike me down I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine but also please don't strike me down yeah not fair for you to strike me down but if you do I'll fucking kick ass though but you shouldn't it's not cool the there's this old stereotype by the way the prosecutors the joke is they could could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich yeah but that's that's generally true in lots of cases because it's not like it's not a reasonable it's not beyond a reasonable doubt it's just a preponderance of the evidence so you get to be

like more than a 50% chance you think the person might be guilty and your grand jury will indict all right yeah but they're pretty resident reticent to indict high profile people because they're just people there two days a week for like a month. They're not trying to get involved in a bunch of bullshit. Like, so they're very rarely indicted high profile. People, for example, grand jury is almost never indict cops for killing people no matter how egregious it is. But like these, everyone says it's unprecedented.

I wish everyone, I know cable news has to get their fucking, news has to get clicks and their, their ratings by making everything out to be the most important biggest thing that ever happened, the most important rose ceremony ever. And we keep here the word unprecedented. We did a whole chunk of the bonus episode. on Friday talking about unprecedented. But this is very, very precedented, all right? Presidents, former presidents, have been in legal hot water before.

In February of 74, a grand jury was about to indict Richard Nixon for bribery, conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and obstruction of a criminal investigation until Gerald Ford pardoned him. If four presidents cannot be prosecuted, what the fuck did Gerald Ford pardon him for? Yeah. Why didn't need to be pardoned? Bill Clinton, as part of a deal after he left office to not be prosecuted for lying under oath about the Lewinsky affair, agreed to surrender his law license. And sorry, what was his other penalty?

Basically, he surrendered his law license for five years in order to not be charged criminal. So Clinton did suffer some consequences. It's not that he was going to practice law or whatever, but it's fucking humiliating. But everyone knows these guys are above the law. This is not like something out of the fucking left field. It's really annoying to me the way this is being talked about. Right. Anyway, yeah, Matt, you got any comments, stuff for us, comments, questions, whatever you got from the lovely viewers, the skewers, as it were, out there.

Let us know what they think. Sorry for ragging on you earlier, Matt. It's just, you know, you were lagging a little behind. I had to fill the goddamn time somehow. Right. It's not personal. You got to fill the fucking dead air about left. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. So, you know, you were the subject at hand. I just sort of went for it. I feel like you're getting me back now, but not okay. Anyway, Earthcat says Matt at Matt. Trump just addressed his supporters at Mar-Lago and did the very thing the judge warned him not to do. The flying monkeys are all riled up to lay siege again. So obviously we didn't see that, but I guess he, so I guess he's riling them up.

Sounds like not surprising at all. But like, but I mean, you know, he, he riled him up before this ever happened too, very attempted to, right? I mean, before he even got indicted, he said, take to the. the streets, you know, and all that shit. And, like, we've, part of what we covered in the show tonight, there was, you know, not that many people there. So, uh, Amy Nagel says, what do you think of the 60 minutes, Marjor Taylor Green interview?

I haven't seen. Awful. They didn't like, they, they, they, they, they, they, the mainstream national media just does not fucking get it, dog. They just don't get it. The, the, they, essentially, she's like, you call it, Leslie Stahl was like, you call Democrats, pedophiles. And she goes, you, they are pedophiles.

And she goes, you, they are pedophiles. like pushback yeah you just you just invited a woman on national TV to call an entire political party pedophiles right she tried she she she asked her about the parkland shoot uh saying the parkland shooting was a false flag she denied saying it and said but i have a fact check she literally i have a fact check like what goes your fact check when you invited her on the lap i don't it's like and they talked about they used all these positive brandy buzzwords like she's a firebrand who fight what she believes and she won't back now.

The maverick. Yeah. Yeah. Nicole Johnson says, she showed off how strong she was in CrossFit. Yeah. Nicole Johnson says, hit that like button, everybody. Thank you, Nicole. I always forget. Like, share, subscribe. Leave us a five-star review if you listen to the podcast version of it. Or hell, even if you don't, even if you don't ever listen to podcast version, you can still go subscribe to the podcast version and leave a review

because, you know, all that, all that silly internet shit helps. Mary Wayland says, Matt, we love you. Matt is one who put that out there. Look at this. Matt's a fucking time out. Look what he's doing out now. Yeah, Caradimo says, we love you, Matt. You guys realize this is Matt who's putting these up here.

Matt, you son of a bitch, this is hilarious. Chrissy M. It's not like I have to read them, but I guess I'm going to. Chrissy M. Frye Condry says, we love you, Matt. Seems like everybody loves Matt. We love Matt, too. You know, just busting his B words a little bit.

L.A. says, how are you feeling about DeSantis' chances now? He's more dangerous than Trump. I mean, it seems like he's getting wrecked at this point. I saw that, I saw, I don't, I can't remember where the poll was from, but it was a poll that was trending on Twitter that said since the indictment, Trump was up like nine point or like 12 points and DeSantis was down nine or something like that. Like it had gotten even more lopsided over the past, you know, a few days since this came out or whatever so I I I these guys are in such a such handcuffs when it comes to Trump like I if you just you're running to be the leader of the free world show some fucking balls I mean balls metaphorically obviously I'm I'm saying a woman can show

balls too but I'm saying like this be like even if you want to be the dumbest route you could be like I'm mad enough to defeat the New York DA whereas Trump is too weak what he's going to say right yeah Yeah, I don't know. Candice White says, kudos to Tennessee for protesting. Yes, thank you for saying that. I should have said that myself with all these young people.

I saw somebody point out actually that, I think the clip we showed where there was chanting fuck Bill Lee. Pretty sure the person had uploaded that, the caption they included said that's the next generation of Tennessee voters chanting fuck Bill Lee right there. And it's like, I hope so like I, because Jesus Christ,

it's been tough sledding Tennessee politically for a while now. And that type of shit's the only thing that gives me to kind of hope generally is like okay there's still a shitload of young people in Tennessee or are not lunatics and maybe they won't all you know leave the way I kids kids can be naive kids can be you know ignorant about some stuff but kids were right about Vietnam the kids were right about ending segregation the kids are often right they're right about the Iraq War yeah no go kids do often be right all right well listen one last time

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