Weekly Skews - Weekly Skews - 6/04/24 – Felon Hard Times

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

Tonight we discuss, what else, last weeks big verdict: 34 felony convictions for Donald Trump, as well as the discourse surrounding it since from both the right (unhinged, flailing, hypocritical) and the left (basically nonexistent for some reason). Also Fauci’s big day and a bunch of other fun stuff too. Join us. Support the show

what's up everybody welcome back happy skews day to you it's uh june 4th 2024 i'm trade that's mark happy pride mark happy pride month happy pride to all y'all out there yeah i saw if you saw the fbi i was marching at west highwood pride's like we've because society's in a weird point right now i'm not sure I'll make a video up. Yeah, well, I texted you this, but I, so just on that note, the Pride Month kicking off, well, for me, I went to a Dodgers game Sunday, and when it was over, everybody was filing out, and it was like people walking this way and this way and a guy walking this way.

As he walked past me, he was like a shredded, very gay, coded dude in the tank top. He put his hand on my shoulder and said, you have beautiful eyes. And I've been floating ever since, Marr, I told, I told Kay, I was like, oh, my God, did you hear that? It was so sweet. You don't give me the vapor. you know. I don't get a lot of compliments, right? So I appreciate it. I don't understand, you know, people that were upset by that. So shout out to that guy. If you ever hear this, you made my week. This is very weird how America co-ops everything. But my understanding is pride commemorates, you know, cops in New York would bust up gay bars and stuff. And like, it commemorates a trans woman throwing a brick through a cop car window. And now you've got Raytheon prideful oats. It's just like

Yeah You know Bank of America says happy pride Yeah well them They've got consultants They've run numbers or whatever That tell them you know That they should do that I guess

So what are you going to do And it's better than the alternative It's better than Raytheon shooting a missile To prep parade But you know So this is what it is So a couple things where we get to the show So this is pretty funny

Mexico elected new president A woman named Claudia Scheinbaum She's the first woman President of Mexico And the first Jewish person He elected president of Mexico And so the hardcore conspiracy theorists who make up, you know, 80% of the online right wing where it's saying like, oh, it must have been rigged because, you know, a Jewish person got elected president of a Catholic state that's like 98% Catholic or whatever.

Right. And it's like, well, first of all. They rig things. They control things. So this would be right in their wheelhouse to rig a Mexican election for reasons. It's also hilarious because like the idea that the CIA would have to get involved for there to be a rig New Mexico. election is funny if you know anything about Mexican politics. Yeah. But

she, I mean, on paper, I don't know to talk about Mexican politics. Judge, or Amlo, the party she's a part of is you know, she was basically a handpicks successor of the outgoing guy who's name I can't think of at the moment who's not uncorrupt.

But she's on paper as a climate scientist, pretty solid lefty. And she's, you know, spoken out about civilian deaths in Gaza. So when she got up to give her thank you speech. She thanked Jesus and everyone's ears perked. I was like, oh, that does prove she's not a real Jew because she thanked Jesus. And I was actually your husband's named Jesus. It's funny because I was in the outline you have it as she thanked and I read it

as Jesus and I was going to make a joke about, well, maybe it's just Jesus. Like somebody she works with or something, somebody in her office, but no, it literally was her husband. Well, your joke is smarter than their real take is the way we get at. So I just like at a moment if wishing her husband was named Muhammad, so the whole world would have melted down. Another international goings on. So North Korea launched balloons with trash bags tied to them over South Korea this week. With timers on them that went off and released, it was like a bunch of garbage, cigarette butts, plastic water bottles, unused paper and shoes, and with like compost.

I also heard of report it as like human shit. That'll show them. yeah so south korea said like biological response teams or whatever to it like oh this is just garbage and i'm like this is it's sort of funny like whenever nukes do get launched it's going to be the end of the world obviously but in the meantime since the development of nukes and a bunch of people having nukes this is just what war

looks like most of the time now is just trolling with garbage right yeah it's like the north korean air force or whatever yes he just trash stride he just tie a bunch of shit to a balloon and send it. They're like sitting there with BB guns, wait until it gets far enough. Yeah. Or whatever.

It's kind of like how like China and India, they both have nukes, obviously. And so like, or I'm not sure if India and Pakistan. Yeah, India does, I think. India and Pakistan, they both do, right? And also China. I think all those countries there have them. So on their border, the troops, they don't let them have guns because they're always, they're always like confrontations.

They don't want to jump off any sort of nuclear war. So they just have big battles with like sticks and shit. Yeah. And I'm like, this is sort of like, we've got to do a war, but we can't have an effective one because it'll turn nuclear. So you guys just get each other with sticks. That'll be fine. So, but like, so this is, North Korea says in response to, like, North Korean defectors in

the South, like, air dropping pamphlets that say, like, actually down here we have food and electricity. Right. I'm like, this is like, so they're telling our people that we have electricity, that they have electricity, so we got to send some human shit and paper towel rolls. up here we got trash yeah I mean that yeah that whole deal is wow

I mean that the so it's defectors from North Korea specifically they're doing the operation the anti-propaganda operation or whatever yeah I mean people that are motivated enough to risk death to cross in the South Korea are going to be the most anti-communist motherfuckers

for sure yeah because that's what I'm going to say it's like that's I mean I've seen videos on the internet of like defectors like fucking Jason Bourne sprinting across the DMZ or whatever while they're like gunshots pop up around them and stuff it's pretty intense yeah we gotta have a hard border in America trade that'll work yeah all right well with us is always his producer Matt doing his thing back there this is weekly skews before we continue I want to remind y'all the couple of things

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we'll be talking about? The big bombshell verdict from last week, Trump guilty on 34 counts. How about that shit, y'all? What do you say about that? Well, a lot of people got a lot to say about that, except seemingly the Democrats for some reason, but we'll get into the discourse in the wake of that

jury's decision a little later, but first we begin with the Daily Dumbass Mac. Graphic, please. tonight's dd anyone who turned turned on congress yesterday and didn't ask themselves what year is it this is dr fouchy testifying in front of the house select subcommittee on the pandemic do you do you agree that there was a push to downplay the lab leak theory not on my part really really wow wow i think i think most of the country find that find that amazing i said 11 seconds Well, look at the facts.

I've kept an open mind throughout the entire process. All right. I have no idea why they're doing this now, except in your Times op-ed this week, where a woman argued that it was a fault of a lab mistake or whatever. The Fouchy's been retired for a few years now. Trump gave him, like, the American Medal, the American Freedom Medal or whatever,

and he sent him off. And it's like, there's so much, like, I can't. All right, so the lab leak thing, I don't know why we're talking about it now and the I really was like what the Fauci doesn't even go here anymore

right what the fuck are we doing and like so but they seem to believe that like Tony Fauci who was a director of National Institute of Health which gives nine bonding advice like don't eat rare steak is like is somehow was president in 2020 and made Trump shut down the country

when most of it wasn't shut down at all and like and they think that he like they think that he like personally profited greatly from it right like that's part of their as part of the rationale or their theory is that he was enriching himself off the back of the pandemic and was doing so by making it seem so much worse than it really was so people get the vaccines all that shit which was putting money in his pocket that's what they say and i could i've never been able to wrap my head around also like the idea that like why the most of it should care if it was a lab leak like the lab league theory as sane people think of it is

somebody who dropped a vial. Right. I'm glad you said that, because I was going to bring that up, too. I was going to ask, like, my understanding, the lab leak theory, it's not that, it's not that it was like purposefully leaked, like someone leaks a script or an album early, right? Like someone leaked it from the lab and started it. That's not even the theory, just like you said, it leaked out, like a leak in a water hose or something. And in that case, you know, I mean, that don't hit, obviously, but it's pretty dead. different.

It's very different from one's an act of war or terrorism and the other one is an oopsie, right? Big old oopsie. And so like, like they killed, you know, tens of millions of people. But the, but the idea like, like it's like, so the, what the pushback has been, has been against like they want to, the people are pushing the lab leak the hardest are doing it because they want to absolve Trump of responsibility for anything then with the pandemic, which doesn't make any sort of sense.

if your country's attacked an act of war and you don't respond, that's bad also. But it seems like, like, just time travel with me back to 2020 for a second here. The same people believe both that COVID was completely harmless. It was clearly harmless, no reason to take any precautions, let alone a vaccine, and COVID was a biological super weapon created by the Chinese Communist Party to wage war on the people of Earth. Yeah. Well, that's far for the course for them, dude. It's the same way that, like, you know, Joe Biden is a sleepy and competent papal and also, like,

you know the most nefarious covert operative we've ever seen or whatever the hell that you know a 4D chess playing super genius at the same time they do that sort of shit always I guess our version of this is thinking that Donald Trump's the stupid incompetent moron is also a threat to destroy the world but yes my thing is like that be that that can lead one of those can lead to the other one yeah right exactly Hitler was also mean and stupid yeah right so like mean and stupid is a deadly combination. So anyway, so like it's basically the thought process is there. Our Chinese biological super weapon is unstoppable except by a cheap and abundant horse dewormer. All right. So that's where they get these people's brainhead space. So Batchie thought did a pretty good job of trying to explain

the difference between thinking it could have been like if it was a lab league, obviously people with PhDs and experts in public health and like in virology and like in medical research, we'd have to get together and have a big meeting about whether it's worth it to do research on the on diseases when you when he creates a possibility of oopsies right but but it's not the military doesn't involve those conversations now the rest of us because I don't I don't have the expertise for it I don't really know what you get on a gain of function research except maybe you're able to develop if you're able to predict or create mutations to know what mutations are coming you can create vaccines already have them on the shell for diseases that are coming right so anyway

the uh but here's Fauci trying to push back on the conspirator part of this thinking here and I think in a way that sort of would help it make some more sense to most people. That's not this clip. Oh, maybe it is, Matt. See if it. Yeah, they're actually the next two, this clip contains both of the next two, but just the first half of this one. Okay.

Yeah. You did not suppress the lab leak theory yet in the past, you have said, quote, it is a distortion of reality, unquote. You've said, quote, I've heard these conspiracy theories and like all conspiracy theories, they're just conspiracy theories. That's what you told the American people. And so would you like to clarify what's, science were you following then versus now?

No, I actually have also been very, very clear and said multiple times that I don't think the concept of there being a lab leak is inherently a conspiracy theory. What is conspiracy is the kind of distortions of that particular subject. Like it was a lab leak and I was parachuted into the CIA like Jason Bourne and told the CIA that they should really not be talking about elably. Thank you. That's the conspiracy. I appreciate it.

So, yeah. So, again, to go back to 2020 here because everybody's got, everybody's people trying to justify Trump's bullshit of like sort of forgotten sequence of events here, the pandemic started publicly in China, right? And then Trump acted like it was no big deal because China's government was acting like that's no big deal. They're on the same side of pretending it was no big deal and they have it under control, right?

Because you can say, for whatever reason, governments that are in power always have interest in downplaying pandemic. because pandemics create instability and governments like stability, right? So, like, Trump was like basically sucking she's dick, President Xi, on his side. And with Joe Biden, the middle of the campaign, was like, I actually wouldn't trust

take China's word for this. I would insist on our medical experts being led in to do research about the origins of the pandemic and not trust the Chinese Communist Party and Trump was like, no, we got to trust him. Right? So, like, I know everything,

that seems like it doesn't make sense, but that's what happened in 2020. Now, maybe if Biden was, in power. He would have had an interest in downplay. Did there have been in a pandemic, too? I have no idea, but that's because that's not what happened in reality. All he had to look at is what actually happened. And somehow, we're all just pretending

shit didn't happen. And for example, let's play this next clip from that one congresswoman. Her name is Nicole Malia Takas. There you go. Yeah. I appreciate that. Dr. Fauci, how much have you earned from royalties from

pharmaceutical companies since the pandemic began in 2021? Pause it, Matt? Zero. Pause it. Did you catch that? Since the pandemic began in 2021. So we're now as officially pretending Trump was not president in 2020. Right.

That's the level we're operating at now. And a lot of, when they talk about, when the Republicans make arguments about the economy or whatever, they always act like 2020 goes on Biden's record, too. You know, the huge crime wave under COVID, the mass protests, the pandemic. All that happened under Biden in their head. All right. Right. And the fun fact to know here is Mallor Takas was elected to Congress in 2020.

So surely she remembers the year she was elected to Congress and when she took office, which would have been January of 2021, the same as Joe Biden. All right. So she's just full of made up shit. And you can finish this video, Matt, if you want. Sorry, I just wanted to deposit after we got that part. Yeah, because this is them talking about the money. Yeah.

It says NIH scientists made $710 million in royalties from drug makers. You're saying that you did not receive any of the $710 million. On COVID, I received, I think, $122 for a monoclonal anybody that I made 27 years ago. Okay, so just in general, though, how much have you received, not related to COVID, just in general, how much have you received in royalties between 2021 and 2023? I think none. Okay, so somebody received the 710 million dollars. Somebody did, but not me. You didn't receive any royalties.

Okay. So, I see no royalties. A few things about this. I saw the discussion about this on Twitter and some other people pointed. They showed this clip. See, he says none. He says he got none. But whatever, tax records, whatever it is, show that in 2019 before the pandemic,

and this is all, you know, blue check patriots saying all this stuff on Twitter, 2019 before the pandemic started, Fauci's net worth was like $8 million, they said. And he said now today his net worth is like $11.5 or $12 million. So clearly he's full of shit. But it's like, and I'm money done very openly so, but I feel like that's not really a crazy or egregious amount of growth for someone who has that much money to begin with. Like if you have eight something million dollars five years ago and you do rich people shit with it, especially during, you know, this economy and the markets and all that, like five years later, the idea that it went up by three million is not that inherently crazy. Number two, the whole NIH scientist getting royalties for developing the vaccines and whatnot. It's like, what that, so big farmers should, they help develop them.

Like, they had a part in the process of developing it, right? So big pharma should be able to just like get that benefit for free and then keep all the profits themselves and that would be okay. Or big pharma making all these profits off the vaccines, that's not inherently shady or anything. But like the fact that the government scientists who, you know, were a part of the process and developing it, that makes it inherently shady. So I just don't get any of that. It's also like, you know, an incentive. have to have people who hit at science to work at the NIH, you know, in situations

like this. It's like I just don't get what's wrong with any of that. Yeah, an $8 to $12 million up the course of what's been five years. That's the index. That's just the index mutual fund, right? Plus he probably wrote a book. I imagine he wrote a book. If he wrote one, it's probably successful.

Speaking engagements and all that. You know, a bunch of rich people shit. Right, rich people shit. But yeah, you're right. Like, it's like these people have made a bunch of money off, you know, making treatments. It's like, aren't you guys capitalists? But I guess Was it trying to insinuate is the people at the NIH had a financial incentive to jumpstart the pandemic?

Yes, but I don't know. Isn't it, I like, can't you just apply that logic to kind of any sort of medical situation? Do you know what I mean? Like, where big pharma is involved? Like, that's always true. Like, if you make money off fighting or treating or curing some kind of disease, then you are inherently financially incentivized to, you know, propagate that disease. Like, that's always true. We just have to, like, hope that.

they don't do that or whatever. You know also we had a financial incentive to jumpstart the pandemic? DoorDash, Instacart. Oh, yeah. Clorox wipes. So like I, but like are you, but the real thing is like Nancy Maliotakis, are you arguing that we should take the profit motive out of the health care system? Because we're on the same side if you are.

But if you're not, what the fuck you're talking about? Right. Marjor Taylor Green and as she's wanted to do, turn this whole thing into a circus where she's basically, she refused to call Fauci. doctor. She did admit a big show calling a Mr. Fauci saying he should go to jail for crimes against humanity, which I'm not pretty sure there is an actual crime against humanity law, but whatever. Anyway, this is her after the, uh, after the, uh, hearing, kind of hitting. Here you go.

That Republicans across the country and many Americans in general are sick and tired and fed up with a feckless, useless Republican party in conference that does nothing. All right. Yep. You got a bat. So like, you're just fitting. Well, you know, You know, when you're right, you're right. She just spent hours in a bunch of government money holding memes she printed off up the internet off at a retired guy. Right. And she's like, this feckless do-nothing party.

It's like, what the fuck ever, man? And at the end of that thing, that clip right there, she even says she was like in meetings like that point. I don't make, I'm paraphrasing, but it was something like pointless meetings like this one that amount to nothing. People are tired of this shit. And it's like, yeah, they are. But you were like one of the headliner dumbasses of this particular meeting. You spent 10 minutes being as dumb and loud as anybody in there and accomplishing nothing. So it's like, you know, just the sheer lack of self-awareness.

But it's like also she is the person who like actively prevents her party from doing the thing, all kinds of things all the time anyway. You know what I mean? Like when they do a thing like pass a budget with the Democrats or whatever, she's the one who steps and it's like, ah, we can't have that. She's like one of the most. I know she wants to do opposite and terrible things. But still, she's obstructionist. She keeps things from happening. and then she says this, which again, the thing she said in itself is very, very true.

People are sick of it and should be, but it's her fault. Maybe she's saying that the committee hearing would have been worth it if they'd slap Dr. Fauci in handcuffs and let him out. Probably. He spent like a decent chunk of the hearing. He was asked about the death rest against his family because of his stupid performing a bullshit like this. And while he's sitting there talking about how his grandkids need security because people are threatening to kill them, two guys behind him, one of whom I know at least, would just got out of jail for January 6. He's like smirking and laughing.

So if these, if these hearings do anything, it just reminds people they want to kill Tony Fauci. Right. So, yeah. Maybe she succeeded. We'll find out if he gets murdered. I mean,

I've thought for a while now, but after today or yesterday, too, like he really, I mean, he got the patience of Joe, but I mean, I guess $12 million helps and whatnot,

$12 million and being retired and all that. But like, just, I don't know. I feel like it would drive me up the wall. If I was this dude in this position, and not only do people, people not appreciate it, but they call for your head, want you to be thrown in prison for

crimes against humanity. It's like even on a smaller scale all throughout the pandemic, we had, we've got some patrons and viewers and stuff who've talked about it. People there in the medical field who would like have to help, would want and try to help people with COVID and would get, you know, yelled at for it or whatever because they didn't, you know, for political reasons. And that's got to just, it just has to drive you crazy. I feel like I'd be pulling my hair out all the time.

I mean, he's like the peak of that. It's also like, like the fault of memory here is like there were countries that had strict lockdowns where you literally were legally not allowed to leave your house. And I'm not talking about China. I'm talking about Spain. Like the UK had a law where you could get one 20 minute walk outside of your house a day. But those are rules that weren't really enforced. You're hardcore nerds follow them.

But like if you're a small business owner and you were forced to close, absolutely. That fucking sucks if you couldn't get a PPP loan. I hope if you have a small business loan, you got a PPP loan and got a committed hell of fraud. But, like, the idea that, like, people who lived in Florida are rebelli, they want to kill Dr. Fauci because they, the beach was closed for three days in 2020. It's so fucking insane. Yeah. Yeah. Well, speaking of it and sign, let's talk about the, again, the discourse surrounding Donald Trump's historic conviction. A moment of history, truly befitting of this moment for a great nation of ours. And the day of the, the day of the verdict was handed down.

Let me read this headline from I think Politico Ever been slapped by breasts? That's how chaotic it was ahead of Trump's historic conviction. I found the video of a woman jumping around and showing her titty. He's not going to show this because this is the family show here. It's cute. She just straight up to smack the woman with her titties because she loves Donald Trump. Don't show it, Matt.

Don't show it, Matt. We'll get in trouble. You guys can imagine it. Before, so 34 felonies, whatever. He's at first time of fend. Before we get off the rails with the apocalyptic rhetoric about what happened here, this thing he's charged with would probably result because he's technically speaking a first-time offender because he's never been convicted of any other shit he's ever done.

It's like at the high end, one to four years in prison, which he won't get, he's probably going to get a fine and probation, right? If he really pisses off the judge, the judge really wants to punish him for how what an asshole he was during the trial, it'd probably be like home detention for like a month with an ankle monitor, permission to go to his rally. And also, I mean, just based off what I have seen people who at least claim to be loggers on the internet say, like, that's not really out of bounds, right, in this situation. Like, it's like legally speaking his first defense, even though, you know, we know he's been breaking law for since ever. But it's the first time he's been convicted for it.

It's nonviolent. All that's the nature of the crimes and all that. That's like a reasonable expectation. Yeah. But he also insinuated death threats against the judge's daughter. You factor in all that stuff. He also has to do a pretrial sentencing meeting with a psychologist. I imagine that's going to go swimmingly for him.

So anyway, so this is how he responds to it. I believe you have this video of Trump talking about on True Social. My civil rights have been totally violated with this highly political, unconstitutional, and election interfering which hunt of a trial. Our failing nation is being laughed at all over the world. what's happening. All right. So as he goes on a rigged trial,

I just want to talk about how nobody involved this conversation has any real principles. Like, this is a guy who took out a full page ad in the New York Times calling for the death penalty of the Central Park 5 for sexual assault. They actually absolutely did not commit. They were free from jail from.

So, like, he doesn't care about rigged trials. He doesn't care about fairness. He doesn't care about civil rights. And I just think it's funny. He's claiming his civil rights were violated. He's claimed his trial was unfair. which to him, I think, means that all the witnesses he successfully bribed were ones in his other cases. Right.

Because from Public, I had this report came out this week. The multiple witnesses have received significant financial benefits from his businesses and campaign. Let me read here. Nine witnesses in the criminal cases against former President Donald Trump have received significant financial benefits, including large raises from his campaign, severance packages, new jobs, and grant of shares in cash from Trump's media company. One campaign aid is average monthly pay double from 26,000. to 53,000, that's a month.

Another employee got a $2 million severance package, barring him from voluntarily cooperating with law enforcement. Right. So these are people who in some capacity work for Donald Trump and would be reasonably called to testify as witnesses in these ongoing cases he has. And these people have gotten, you know, seemingly odd and unexplained bumps in paying benefits and stuff

directly from Trump in the run up to their potential testimony, which seems a little odd, right? I would like to have been the pay negotiation for the guy who's pay went from $26K to $53,000, $54,000 a month and been like, well, I'm going to quit if it's only $26,000. And nobody goes, well, how about $30? And they go, well, how about $54? It's just like, what an insane fucking thing, the negotiations. So, like, we're drowning in so much bullshit. The start from Trump himself here in the right, like Trump has now come fully around.

because they would say he was complained about locking up political rivals. And someone on Fox News during an interview was like, well, in all fairness, you did say you would lock up Hillary Clinton. And now he's like, well, I never said to lock her up.

It was just the crowd champion. Right. Yeah. Right. No, they were saying it. They were, you know,

that wasn't me. And the Fox News people were like, well, we can call it up. He goes, no, no, no, don't call it up.

It's like, okay, we're just like, retelling you didn't do that now. And here's Charlie. Yeah, well, he also had that, Do you see that clip that they dug up of him in the run up to the election in 2016 on the whole lock her up front, him in the middle of a speech, talking about how, like, she should be barred from, she shouldn't be allowed to run because of that for the stuff for Benghazi or whatever.

I don't remember what her emails, whatever all the shit they wanted her locked up for. Like it was him saying that, you know, based on that she shouldn't even be allowed to hold political office or run from it because it's like, you know. Right. also I've seen to take a lot but I can't believe a felon is allowed to run for president and I want to say like yeah I mean I wish Trump wasn't

possibly going to win the presidency but I just felon should be like we criminalized so much political activity in this country most of the left like in 30 years of someone who chained themselves

to an oil pipeline and environmental deterred for it yeah there was man I can't remember the specifics of this but there was some like early on socialist

dude who was like Eugene Debs that yes that's it right right who like ran from office from prison he was effectively an actual political prisoner but you know it's like but you know he was keeping it real what was he doing what it was like what specifically had he done it was related to like unions and all that shit right or like the cold mine situation or something like that i don't remember so it was probably people were like back in that era people were like thrown in jail for handing out literature saying that you shouldn't be a draft for World War one and shit so like it's stuff like the right right Like, you're literally talking about, like, if you say felon should be, like, run for president, it's like, well, should, like, somebody who caught a stupid charge for, you know, spray printing political graffiti or something? Like, I don't, I, when they were 17, I, I, like, I, I think that the founding fathers are correct about this, because they were all fucking outlaws. Yeah. Would have been hanged as traitors if they hadn't won. So they didn't put that in there for a reason. Right. No, I'm with you. I do think that, you know, someone who, you know, foments a insurrection should not be able to run for president.

But, you know, I haven't been found guilty of that yet, I guess. If you commit out and out political violence as an adult, it's probably fair that you shouldn't be allowed to participate in the civil democratic process to. I mean, it's not like Trump was young and dumb when he did January 6th, you know what I'm saying? So, like, I just like, yeah, I do think you're right. But yeah. So back to like some crazy rhetoric about Trump. maybe getting a fine and some probation.

Here's Charlie Kirk and so you found a very influential talking point USA and mother mega influence. What is going, do they all, does he require his guests

to be like, uh, different versions of him and they all wear the same MAGA hats the whole time? Is it like the uniform for going on the show? This is so,

yeah. This is funny to me. This panel that we're looking at right here with, with those hats on and all that. Yeah. Yeah. That font and,

uh, you know, currenting isn't even the, the original merch. They got their own bootleg. Like Mega Merch. Bootleg Maga merch. All right.

Let's see what Charlie's got to say. So today, as we say, this was an attempted judicial and legal assassination. Some of you in the audience remember where you were when you heard the news that they killed JFK. Do you remember where you were on 9-11? This is an equally as significant day. You will remember the day. You remember what you were doing when you heard the news because it has never happened before in American history. So today as-

Got it. So it's funny when you say, like, so he says some of you might remember where you were when JFK was assassinated, right? So turning points to USA, we know what it really is. It's grassroots, pretending like the Donald Trump's young and hip, right? Astrofts grassroots grassroots, right? But what it pretends to be is organizing college campuses for conservatives.

So he's telling his audience of supposed college kids, obviously a lot of you remember where you were when JFK was 16. Yeah, I thought that too. He said that and I did some quick math in my head and I was like, I don't know that, but then I was like, well, I don't know. He probably does have a lot of papals watching him. He does. Yeah, I'm about saying.

That's the audience. Yeah, right. Yeah. Anything in this even realm at all, I always assume it's, you know, the same type of demographic that Fox News is dealing with. Not entirely, but mostly. Yeah, and it's nothing, it's kind of like the MTG thing sort of where it's, I mean, I don't think, I don't know that it'll be a flashbulb memory for me, but like him

being like, because this has never happened before in American history, it's like, yeah, no, that's true. This is wild. This shit is wild. And a lot of people are going to remember it. But like, you know, because it's so insane to us that a former president, potential future president has been convicted 34 times on felony charges. Like, that's noteworthy. You know, but he's saying it's the, whatever, the deterioration of the justice system in America as we know it. And of course, that's insane. Right. These people, I don't know what they're looking at, man. A lot of people, like, people's fundamental understanding of reality is so far. different than mine and based upon stuff that's not actually real it's like it's some mythical version of stuff they believe in like are like let's say trump did get totally railroaded that's normal in america like it's not the first fucking guy to get railroaded it's like it's utterly insane like but that brings me like one of the biggest groups taking else here like the centrist and center left pundits who said this is like a super weak case or this isn't how we do things in america mature democracies lot they're the presidents in prison all the

fucking time. I think the last three Brazilian presidents went to jail. Francis's presidents have gone to jail. Fucking South Korea's last presidents in jail. This is like we need to throw more, lock more presidents up, man. Lock more politicians up. It's fucking normal and it's healthy if they do stuff that's fucked up. And so the dissentious for a second, like for the past eight years, we've called this endless stupid brain loop talking about misunderstanding how things work. Like a lot of simple truths were treated as matters of paralyzing complexity. You got a man who ran his entire business on fraud, cheated on his taxes, committed sexual assault, conspire with his henchmen to instruct justice, made himself

into a presidential candidate, then became president. And then because he became president, it couldn't reconcile the first set of facts with the last one. So then you go, presidents don't do, don't do these sort of things. Or if a president did do those things, it couldn't count. That would mean the President of the United States was a criminal. And that would mean, I don't know, the Debrain goes on the fucking fritz. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't know. It's just so weird to me because I'm like, I, I default to assuming that the majority of high level politicians in this country do some kind of shady business shit that would get me or you in hot water if we got like I just so whenever it comes

that whenever one of them gets and it's just they just got to try to not get caught but whenever they like get caught I'm always like oh they did that shit and it's not just with Trump but that's that's where my head goes and the idea that they just can't buy that he specifically would do all that but also like they on the off of what I just said about assuming they all do But they've been doing that, too. Who is that? There was a Republican congressman who, when all this is going on, tweeted out, who's like, the average American commits three felonies a day.

There's Andy Biggs, yeah. Yeah, Andy Biggs is like, it's like, I don't, I'm not doing it. Yeah, we talked about that on the show. But it's like, so you're doing all those felonies. Like, look, I do felonies, you do felonies. We all do felonies. We're like, I don't do felonies, though. So, you know, telling themselves.

it's also like like so we'll get to the actual like merits the case in a little bit like we talked about a little bit but like so yeah they did take 34 charges that would be misdemeanors and elevated him in a federally based upon a conspiracy count that the jury bought but it was a novel legal theory but people people get busted for these underlying charges all the time right but like like like i think it was like three thousand last year people pled guilty to this business fraud charges he was hit with it's just a felony escalation penalty that conspiracy one that's a little weird but like you you're not allowed to try new things of the prosecutor since these people fucking love prosecutors throwing a book of people for dumb bullshit. So what happens once to their guy, it's like, well, we got a good assistant down. Absolutely. Well, that's the whole thing. And now in Revert, like, we're talking about felons and shit. Like, these people,

you know, right, they love people getting the book thrown out. And they have no sympathy whatsoever for anybody called up in the criminal justice system. It's like, can't do the crime. Can't do the time. Don't do the crime. Felons should be thrown in the trash forever. They shouldn't be allowed to vote on a gun, have a job. It shouldn't be allowed to do anything ever once you've committed a felony because you've removed yourself from society at that point, you know, by fucking up. And that's your own fault. And you got to live with that and have to take personal responsibility

for it. And we, the rest of us don't want you around. Like that's the magical world. That's their general outlook on every other fellow in this country, except for Donald Trump, who is conversely, their God emperor. So, yeah. Yeah. And we got like, so we spent like trapped in this hell for past seven years or whatever where all these people in the middle who are high on American exceptionalism who think it's like somehow uncouth to point out what a tacky fucking immoral criminal asshole Donald Trump is like it brings down the entire republic like how we all think of

ourselves if you just point it out and then 12 regular Americans listen to a couple weeks testimony got in a room to deliberate deliberated for like nine total hours seven of which were lunch and like yeah he did that bullshit And I mean, that indicates that, like, because I'm all dumb, too. Like, that would seem to indicate to me that it must have been a pretty strong case. You know what I mean? In terms of the merits of it and or a very shitty defense, you know, but yeah, like, we were talking last week.

I was like, Mark, how long should we expect this to go? And you're like, well, apparently rule of thumb, it's probably, they're probably deliberate for four days, but could be more. Who knows? And yeah, it ended up being nine hours. And it's like, when it comes back that quick, it's pretty open. open and shut, I would imagine. His lawyer spent a huge chunk of the case trying to convince trying to get Stormy Daniels to admit that they didn't have sex.

And like literally no one believes they didn't have sex. But he had to spend a lot of time with that because Trump wanted him to prove it, right? So like, like, like, I'm going to have a Matlock moment because Trump probably watched Matlock where it's going to get her to confess on the stand that actually never had sex and she feels so bad for framing poor Mr. Trump or whatever. But like, so the, the also like, my, I heard somebody explaining like, because Trump's main attorney in this is called, his name is Todd. Blanche. And Trump apparently, you get like 10 peremptory challenges for jurors in New York

for criminal cases like this where you can just dismiss a juror for whatever reason. Right. Trump, but they both do. Both sides do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you can strike 10 of them. Yeah. So Trump was basically doing his own jury selection where he used, he insisted Blanche used like 10, uh, perimitary challenges on jurors and then ran out and couldn't actually bump people actually might have been politically biased against him. And then he just, Trump just assumed the the judge would just give him more periptery challenges. Right. So you just, they fucked up the whole thing, but that's like, that's not my problem.

That's why you hire a good attorney and let them do their work. But these 12 jurors are the common sense wisdom of the regular person, one out, and they're basically braver than every single U.S. fucking senator. And they knew, they did this knowing they would get death threats, and that's exactly what has happened. There's like, the online activity of people trying to docks them and figure out who they are, going to post your address online and swap them and try to get them murdered has shot through the roof. And I hope nobody ever finds out who these people are. If one of you is watching,

please don't take a book deal. Right. Quietly live your life. But like, this is just like, I just, this is where we're at America right now. And I don't think Trump has the juice to like actually get anybody murdered right now. Maybe I'm sure there's one cycle out there if you wanted to do it. But like it, it wasn't like it was in 2017. As far as everyone's political takeaways from this, this is by far the funniest one to me that everyone seems like all the centrists in right see the centrists seem to believe it the right

wing seems to be bullshitting but I'll let Hugh Hugh at a pre-expressing on Fox News a conservative legal supposed legal expert I think Trump is in a much stronger position today than he was on Wednesday. Kelly Ann yes I agree with

everything I mean yeah man this is what they've been saying like since you got indicted and it's like and I said this in the video I'm worried about about both about the indictment this but it's like i remember after you got indicted i turned on fox news i'll see how this is going it was they're all talking about how great this was but they're like so pissed out they're like saying it through like gritted teeth and teary eyes and stuff you know what i mean they're like this is great this is great news i'm thrilled about this this is awesome it's like they've been doing that

the whole time and they're doing that here now and it's like i don't know it's you seem pretty upset about it considering this is such a massive why are you so pissed off about it if this is such an objective huge win for you and your guy You know, it's like, I don't seem to attract to me. If the old expression, a hit dog, go holler, right? If a hit, if getting hit feels great for the dog, why does he holler it? Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

So another, another bizarre take, Mitt Romney, who ostensibly hates Donald Trump, said, Bragg, that's the DA, should have settled the case against Trump as would have been the normal procedure, but he made a political decision. Bragg may have won the battle for now, but he may have lost the political war. Democrats think they can put out the Trump fire with oxygen. It's political malpractice. now mid romney is also a white-collar criminal so i'm not like the big my bigger takeaway from this is the trump verdict but take away from the trump verdicts that corporate political corruption is so

normalized in this country that people who benefit from white-collar crime are just fundamentally in shock about it right yeah and sure it's like admitting that they do all this shit right they're like well hold on but i thought we all kind of understood that we were going to do shit like this And this is what you're supposed to be locking people up for weed. Not this stuff. We run this country. We make jobs. Let us do our crimes.

What the hell? So that brings us to the politics of this. It's going to say the mid-romantic things that gives Trump oxygen. We'll get to a pretty funny focus group that New York Times put out today a little bit. But like, so Trump honestly might have gotten pretty lucky with the conviction with the timing of it because Slate's piece about a guy coming forward, say you heard the Trump say the N-word on the set of the imprint. like came out the same morning as the indictment. Oh, absolutely. I know it did.

Because I was looking for something to make a video about because I need, you know, try to do like one a week if possible or whatever at least. And I was like, it was like, well, you know, I didn't think the verdict was going to come down for, you know, a few more days or something. I saw Trump said the N-word and I was like, bad of work. I can do something with that. So I put out a quick video by him saying the N-word in like literally 30 minutes afterwards. It's like, you know, breaking news.

The verdict happened. I was like, well, that's a bad word. right. But yeah, no, that definitely got buried for sure. I mean, like, in the whole point of the video I made, it was like, oh, this is going to be huge for him. It's people love it when people say the N-word, you know, the N-word is one of their favorite words. They're going to love it. But, like, I don't know how much that would have ever mattered to begin with, you know, especially with Trump. But it definitely got buried completely for sure. All the talk about MAGA stuff, it's worth remembering that Trump does need sane people

to vote for him to win. He does. Right. Normal everyday people walking around. or I'm comfortable without and out. Pretty much the only thing most Americans agree is racist is saying the N-word, right? And most people don't like that. So I think if you could get people to know that, I think it would change both, right?

And by the way, if the Dems wanted to do this back in the news cycle, if they ever felt like doing politics, which they never do, which would get to that in a little bit, but they can have hearings about this because the situation in which Trump said it, as a game show host, was do you think America would buy an N-word winning, right? Yeah.

Arguing to the producers that they could not let a black guy win a business show. Right, because America wouldn't, America would be like, that can't be right. This doesn't make any sense. Black people can't do business. Yeah. I mean, that's the type of thing you hear about like studio executives and shit in Hollywood having those conversations for like years, but, you know, 40, 50 years ago. Do you know what I mean?

It's like, well, we can't have a black lead in a movie. when they're by the Cosby's. Yeah, right, exactly. So, but like if they wanted to get back in the news, they can have hearings about this under oversight because, like, the federal government does take the rigging of game shows seriously, right? There are huge laws about that. You can't rig a game show to have a white guy win because you think it's more

believable to the audience, all right? I worked on game shows. There's a bunch of compliance people walking around because there's a scandal in the 50s and it's very heavily regulated. So they could have hearings about that and call us got to testify and have them tell a story. They're not going to do it. But that's, but they absolutely could. So, bring it back to this, the, the verdict.

So, Granger returned into indictment over a year ago. Trial's been ongoing for over a month. With all that time to repair for any combination of outcomes, Democrats seemingly did nothing and are largely paralyzed. They have no like huge, if they're doing anything, they're saying we need to respect the verdict and the rule of law, but they're barely doing that, very mealy mouth. I saw a few people, Eric Swah, a friend of the show,

Eric Swalwell had a cool moment on the, at a hearing today. talking about it, but for the most part, there's no organized, like, sort of talking points about it. There's no assertion someone with 34 felony accounts to be disqualifying for a major party nominee. And here, there's this tidbit. The Biden quote, this is from the new republic. The Biden campaign has no plans to spend money on television ads about Trump's criminal conduct or the facts have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. They're so fucking bad at this. Like, the Biden administration did put out a statement saying he's a convicted felon, but that's like, that's nothing. That makes it sound like it's sort of agreeing with Trump that

all he did was a paperwork crime, right? Yeah, I don't know why, I don't get why you wouldn't just emphasize in campaign ads or otherwise, whatever, just in the messaging that, you know, the opponent is a now a convicted felon that this happened, like to make the choice to avoid Biden generally, hasn't Biden generally his whole thing has been like he tries not to just talk about Trump at all, like he barely ever says his name and shit like that, they just try to avoid it and whatnot. And then also, I guess they're like, the other side has been saying that Biden's the one pulling the strings on this the whole time anyway. You know what I mean?

So I don't know if they think like if we flex on it, that'll, I don't know. I think it's insane to not, you know, to just ignore this completely. That seems wild to me. It does. Like, all right. So the complaints, like the one that is driving me the craziest about somebody that like cares about criminal justice stuff is like they're. saying it's a politically motivated prosecution. Every prosecutor in America is either elected or appointed by a politician.

Every single prosecution is politically motivated. And if you're mad about this one, if Bragg thought it would get him more votes to convict Trump, that you need to get rid of political, like, the prosecutors then, because I got bad news about every single time they avoid charging a police officer who does something fucked up, or every single time they want to look tough on crime. So, like, everybody in print, do you know what a felony murder is, Trey? I mean It's when you get

It's when you basically get like 20 years of life in prison or whatever Because a crime you initiated And it resulted in someone's death So you could be shoplifting A security guard decides to try to shoot you Misses you and hits an innocent bystander who dies You're on the hook for the murder Something like that happens all the time in America

And those prosecutions are also politically motivated Even though all you did was like steal a sweatshirt or some shit All right So like I just don't need patience for those sort of complaints It's like what I'm right It is all politics. even like, you know, like famously, like when Harvey Dent tried all 300 members of the Gotham Mafia at the same time under the RICO laws, you know, that was a political stunt, okay? No, he couldn't convict him.

No, you couldn't get victim. Right. Dead, dark night rules. So, so when you just say it's a convicted felon, it sounds like, like, yeah, like I said, it sounds like you're agreeing with him, you just committed a paperwork crime. It sounds like you just ripped the tag off a mattress or something. And it's like, it's not very specific. And it sounds like Americans don't trust institutions anyway. That's kind of what makes us all Americans.

But like, what he did, like the Biden administration is, put a statement saying, or the campaign said he paid, he had his fixture payout Daniels quote for personal gain. It wasn't for personal gain. It was to defraud the American public. Deprive them of information. Like, I'm not saying that, like, I personally use his high-minded rhetoric and a conversation with a friend, but for a political campaign, it's in bounds. He was depriving the American people of the information they needed to make an informed decision on Election Day 2016, and it illegitimately, illegitimately attained the most powerful office in the world on behalf of the country's far right. They covered up his affair with Daniel so he could appoint

Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court to take away your fucking rights and rig elections for people want to empower your employer to fuck you over. He committed felonies so that the reactionary Heritage Foundation could rewrite the nation's tax laws to make rich people richer. Doesn't that sound better than he's a convicted felon?

Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. He's, yeah, he lied to the American. He purposely misled the American people. And again, it's like, it just feels like it's one of the things that it's wild to me that even, that is the most obvious thing about him. He has purposely willfully misled the American people for this on. But now he's like, you know, formally convicted of doing that.

It's not, but it's like, it's not, it's not, it's not, it's not, like, you've got to connect the conviction with people's lives being worse in a lot of ways. Right. Because who I heard, we're like, ah, well, you know, at the end of the day, who gives a shit about any of that? Like, people might have that response to it. It's like, it's not like killing people or whatever. He's doing weird old business stuff.

I'm sure they all do it, you know. it's not relevant. I still like his tax policy. Like that's the thing. He lied to obtain the presidency so he can stall judges and a regulatory regime so that 16 year old kids are literally falling into meat grinders at packing plants. All right? That's what

he did. You can say that. It's not only in bounds in politics. It's true. It's fucking true. And they're not going to do any of that, man. It's like, this is like, this case is like a perfectly embodiment of what a trash human being Donald Trump is, too, if anybody cares about character anymore. Forget the adultery, although

if Melania can't trust him, why should you? is a pretty good campaign ad. What kind of terrible employer has an underling bar against his own house to cover up his boss's affair? Right. It's just a piece of shit, man. But all they're going to fall back on is going to respect the rule of law and, you know, trust in the jury verdict.

And like, the reason you would do that is to curry favor from the Republicans by not capitalizing on their political misfortune for having accidentally, air quote, nominating a fucking criminal to be the presidency. There's Tim Scott, who was ostensibly one of the sainer Republicans talking about the verdict. If you got this, that's not it. You thought it's not. That's Trey Gowardt.

We skipped over that guys running behind us. That's Trey Gowdy talking about Hunter Biden. He actually hit there. He's talking about how he's a former Republican on a Fox News. He's talking about how he thinks the real unfair prosecution is the government going after Hunter Biden, which is really funny. We don't need to say it. So, Tim Scott caught it a day of evil. Yeah.

He tried to make the argument that there's going to be good for the Trump campaign, but called it a day of evil. All right. So Biden's keeping his mouth shut to hopefully try to tamp down the anger from the right. Megan Kelly's promised prosecutions of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for offenses. She doesn't know what they are. Charlie Kirkry talked about earlier said we need to indict the left to lose America. Donations to the Trump campaign surged.

You got this video of Mike Garcia, Matt. I actually want to show it as an example of why Democrats do politics. All right. Concern you having a convicted felon at the top of the ticket? I think the American people saw what happened in New York. They saw two what were typically misdemeanors being elevated to 34 felonies. All right. So Garcia is a member of Congress who represents the California 27th out here in Santa Clarita and part of San Fernando Valley.

Yeah, right on the road from me. Me too. He also represents a district that Democrats controlled for 20 years until he barely took in 2020. and he's in a district that Biden won in 2020, 67% to 31%. One reason to do politics about this shit is a gin-up turnout, so this asshole loses. And you have a better chance taking control of the house.

Right. Well, also on that note, sort of on that note, you mentioned the money in passing because he did, Trump did, you know, it got 300 million, whatever it was, a crazy amount of donations in the wake of this

from his cult from his people. But like, we had talked before in a person, previous episode, even that is like not necessarily the worst thing, right? Because it's like, that's less money. The more money that goes to Trump that goes to his like legal defenses and stuff, that's less money from Republican donors or Republican supporters that's going to other Republican races or the Republican Party writ large or even his own campaign. So it's like, even that is not all that bad if you look at it that way. Like the fact that they're doing that

is not like, you know, a huge detriment to the left. His campaign is probably paying like Kimberly Guilfoyle, her stylist, $30,000 a month or some shit. It's all fucking grips. So, yeah, but the part that makes me sad is some mega grandma on Social Security sending sending him 50 bucks or something. Yeah. So not a lot of polling out yet, but here's one from Axios.

49% of independence think Trump should drop out post-guilty verdict. Also, 15% of Republicans said Trump should end his campaign because of the conviction. We're five days out from the verdict, and to my knowledge, not a single elected Democrat has called on Trump to step down. Why? Yeah. Do you have any idea? Why? I mean, no, like, just as a practical, no, politically no. I like, practically, it's like, because they know that, you know, if there's no point in it, but politically there is a point in it, it's, uh, you know. Right. To put it into people's heads that he's unqualified to hold the office. Yeah. Right. And so, like, you can't, like,

I don't know why they find it so uncouth to do campaigning and politics. Like, it's like, it's so weird to me, man. I don't understand what they don't want to win. Well, they've always kind of, in my lifetime, anywhere, in my living memory, it feels like they've always kind of had this, this, like you said, it's uncouth. Like, it seems like they, whatever, like they think they're taking the high road or that they're above that those types of, that type of chicanery or whatever. And it's like you said, it's like, well, do you want to win or not, you know, like,

you got to play the game sometimes. You got to get in there and, you know, sling a little mud with them. You got an electorate who wants better environmental laws, investment, manufacturing, green energy, higher minimum wage in general, access to abortion. And you're losing elections because Republicans call you pedophile and you refuse to engage with it. It's very fucking weird, man. If somebody called me a pedophile, I'd want to punch them, not just want to, much less try to take their job from them. That seems like a bare minimum you should want to do. so you can't let like undecided voters try to figure this out on their own even though they're

kind of doing it so like here's there's a deeply funny uh conversation with with undecided voters in a focus group that the new york times put out today 11 undecided voters um here's an exchange let me read i'll just read from a couple of them here's one guy you have to remember why trump is the choice for millions of people trump represents a shock to the system his supporters don't hold him to the same ethical standards he's the anti hero the supran the tony soprano the breaking bad the guy who does bad things who's a bad guy but does them on behalf of the people he represents and then the guy got the same pointer which he's the guy's sort of right i was about to say wrong but he's right that's what i was about to say it's like dude this guy like i mean i feel like that's a pretty astute

observation really it don't it don't hit for me but like i think the guy's pretty on point with that the nihilism the nihilism is fucking bleak but the uh he's political his political understandings are correct if he was doing his analysis and not his own justification i would absolutely agree with him. So he said, so the exchange one like this, Trump is not a moral compass to a lot of supporters. He's the bad guy that'll do things in our behalf. He's the Tony Soprano or the Walter White. Another guy's like, don't bring my

sopranos into this. The other guy goes, he's the anti-hero. Another guy goes, come on, man. Is this mad about you making a feel about a soprano? Another guy said his reason for why he was leaning against Trump now was, you're saying it's all like a political theater and a farce and whatnot,

but he was having an affair with a porn star and not a particularly attractive one at that. There are so many wonderful porn stars. This guy, well, this guy's clear, he's got his list of favorites, you know, he just disagrees with Trump's, you know, why not Alexis, Texas? You know, that's what I'm saying as an American. So this guy, not bummed about the underlying behavior, but is, but once a president who would have had sex with a porn star, he finds more attractive, all right?

Yeah. This one is the best one. This guy says, what's the big deal about brabbing, stormy? Daniels, I want a president who's going to be able to cover up a $130,000 Brad to Daniels. If you can't pull that off, I'm not going to trust him with a nuclear football. I want a better class of criminal. He's quoting, the second Joker reference, was that the Batman version, this town

needs a better class of criminal? I mean, Jack Nicholson version, this town needs a better class of criminal. That's what Washington, D.C., he's a better class of criminal. That's why I can't bring myself to vote for Donald Trump in 2024. Voters rule, democracy rules. yeah i mean yeah it's like i said it's like i think a lot of people you know seems like this guy like again it's like taking for granted that the people in those positions are going to do that type of shit they just can't get caught and if you get caught you're a loser i guess they don't

they don't like that it's true but it's like it's like it's sort of like even in good fellows like everybody gets pinch it's how you get you got to take your pinch like a man right yeah it's like and they say they didn't get around of that yeah he's like he wasn't he wasn't smart enough to figure a way to get away with paying $130,000. That's true. Couldn't figure it out. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I saw some of the polling, like you said,

independence thinking that, like when it first happened, I didn't really think that, I didn't really think it would move the needle in either direction at the end of the day, really, just because I felt like, again, we talk about all time. These, like, the, independence, undecided fence. Those, they're just so wild to me, like, conceptualizing those people. Like, at this point in America, after the last eight years. years we've all been through or whatnot.

I just don't, it's wild not knowing which way you're going to go yet. But, you know, they do exist, I suppose. Your, your, your buddy Al Gore lost an election in in 2020 because people were banked shot horrified by the fact that Bill Clinton, uh, cheated on his wife, even though, uh, the economy was rolling and we were not, we, we were 9-11 didn't have it for another year after the election. It's like people don't like. People don't like adulterers. They don't.

And a majority of people... They haven't been a known adulterer, though. You know what I mean? People don't know that, Trey. They don't... I can't explain to you how little people pay attention to me. They're still going to not know that, Mark, is what I'm saying. No, this...

Even if you tell them, they're like, they don't believe it. They don't believe any of it. It's not like they've ever been exposed to any of it. They don't think... That's not true. It's a witch hunt. That's not true. Again, Trump needs normal people to vote for him.

The hardcore mega-cycosos are unreachedable, are not a significant chunk of the American electorate. They might be 25, 30% total. And they don't vote, obviously, because he's told him not to trust voting. So, like, he needs regular people, married women in the suburbs, to go to the election polling location

and check a box for him. And whether or not, suspecting that, like, I don't know if you've seen the data, so many people did not know about the excess Hollywood tape because it went out of way as a story so quickly because the Democrats could not make hay of it. Right.

so this a president being convicted of a felony is big fucking news they will hear about right all right it will it will break through the news a jury convicted him of cheating on his wife basically so i know it's just it again it's just wild to me the things that people yeah don't know or have forgotten or don't realize or the things that don't get to them i always forget that so many people basically there's people that don't really engage in politics at all until maybe an election year a little bit and then there's tons of people who just never engaged period and it's like it's just wildly someone here be like, wait, what happened? Donald Trump got convicted and thirph? That's crazy. When did that happen? But, you know, those people exist, I guess. Donald Trump was president? Yeah, right.

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