Weekly Skews - Weekly Skews 6/13/2023 –Indictment 2: Document Boogaloo

Episode Date: June 14, 2023

Tonight we'll be joined by Senior Legal Correspondent Drew Morgan to break down the second indictment (so far) of former President Trump, as well as the abject meltdown it has inspired in MAGA wo...rld. Join us. Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:00 what's up everybody welcome back happy skews day to you it's June 13th 2023 you want to start with a rest in peace to Appalachian literary legend Cormac McCarthy passed away at the age of 89 got to say pretty good run I reckon I'm trying that's mark how you doing there mark yeah I'll take the 89 instead of whatever's behind door number one Um, I, the irony is, I wanted to prep like a good news show and then, like, of course, he died. So it's like, we got good news. Well, he had a quote about, uh, how, you know, death is only hard for the living.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I'm obviously, I can't, I can't just do the quote, but it was something like, you know, the dead themselves are far beyond death. It's the living that they have to deal with it, you know, and then he says something like, nothingness is not a curse far from it. So I think he's, I think he's cool with it all. Yeah, I remember my dad, dad, my mom insisted on getting the most expensive casket. And I was like, this is, this is for you, mom. Dad doesn't care, you know. Yeah, I did a little bit of fun news aside, resurfaced an old story where his ex-wife, I guess, got in her argument with her boyfriend about aliens.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Like, is she believed in aliens and he didn't? So she hit a gun in her pussy to pulling him during sex. And I was like, yeah, congrats to crack with McCarthy for finding a real one. and also getting out of the right time, I guess. Yeah, that old chestnut, a tale as old as time, going from the badge during an alien argument, who among us? What a life, man, what a life. Wrote the Road, married a crazy woman, wrote No Country for Old Men,
Starting point is 00:01:46 great, fantastic movie. I never read the book. But let's get to the good news before we get to the show, the main good news, which is Trump getting indicted and Maga World sort of losing its power. our influence and Republicans, some of them anyway, pivoting away from them, but we'll be whatever, we'll see. But this is a good bit of news.
Starting point is 00:02:06 This headline, New York Times has to frame everything fucking bad. Energy tax credits meant to help U.S. suppliers may be hard to get. Okay, but the good news in here is we're poised to create millions of good wind and solar jobs, the Inflation Reduction Act, bad name for a bill that does a lot of good shit. Tax credits will create demand for four million additional wind in solar jobs. jobs by 2035. That's five times as many solar jobs and twice as many wind jobs we've had without the IRA. If there's 3.7 million jobs in solar, 0.4 million dollars in point four million dollars, uh, jobs and wind. Um, these are high paying union jobs that the
Starting point is 00:02:46 government created. Good, Mark. Yeah. But at the, but at what cost to the lives of birds, right? How many birds are going to explode as a result of this? I don't So anybody talking about that for some reason. You know what? Jobs are good, but exploding birds. Too many people are afraid to say this because they're in their pocket of big bird, but fuck birds. They wake me up in the morning when I'm trying to sleep in. So I'd, I'd, uh, breakfast or brunch or whatever with, uh, some friends here in
Starting point is 00:03:19 Burbank this morning and a little bird landed on our table and everybody was like, oh, check him out, whatever. And then he started eating one guy's toast off of his plate. So. My mom was visiting on here and we drove up the PCH and we stopped for lunch at some like beachside restaurant and had a big sign up saying, please do you give French fries to Seagulls. And my mom goes, oh, come on, they're cute. She threw one French trial on the sand and then a thousand seagulls. Kim, out of nowhere to rest.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Yeah. I don't know if you have to give them to them or not. I think they'll just take them. Seagulls. They take what they want sometimes, I think. I saw a video of a Siegel walking in a store. stealing a bag of chips, just walking out. My wife and I were down at like the Santa Monica Pier.
Starting point is 00:04:03 We first started dating and there was like a pelican. I did no idea before this, but apparently I am deathly afraid of pelicans and I think rightly so. They're frightening birds. They're humongous. They got giant chompers. They will kill you and eat you. And I would not apologize from a healthy fear of them.
Starting point is 00:04:23 But yeah, anyway, these are good jobs that can't be pushed offshore. and that's great. Inflation's down. The Inflation Reduction Act works. People working. The economy's booming. And all you're going to read about it is bad fucking news. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah. All right. Why does the Times frame it as they might be hard to get? What's that part about? I don't know why they frame it that way. Yeah, it's a new industry. The permitting is hard to figure out. But permitting reform is one thing's ever fighting about the debt-sealing fight,
Starting point is 00:04:54 which, of course, Republicans won if they went more than, gas leases, but also you need to permit this stuff faster, too. The government is like, can get out of the way a lot of this shit that would be better off, some of the regulatory stuff. We can't get, you know, I-95 bridge collapsed in Philadelphia, and they're saying it'll take, like, years to replace it. It's like, in China, we'll build like 300 miles of high-speed rail in like a week. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Let's fucking do stuff, man. I don't know. Yeah. Producer Matt is with us as always. This is weekly skews before we continue. I didn't want to remind you guys of a few things. Of course. One, if you'd like to see me perform live, and I really hope you do, go to Trey Crowder.
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Starting point is 00:07:14 Here they are, the Biden administration, arresting really their top political opponent and enemy. This is a communist country. We've been taken over. It's not the America that we all thought that we had. We're not a free country anymore. Oh, Trey. Do you feel less free than you were yesterday? We all feel less free, right?
Starting point is 00:07:37 I'm always maxed out on freedom, buddy. Yeah, I wanted to get right into it because there's a lot going on in this fucking indictments. I remember there was a viral tweet, the day of Trump's inauguration. It was like, welcome to the dumbest day in the history of America, only to be surpassed by every subsequent day. everything is so fucking dumb all this is about this take up let's look at this picture of what this all is about this is a bunch of boxes and a bathroom uh if you have this picture matt um it's this picture of a bunch of top secret documents stacked up in a fucking bathroom a bathroom that has a chandelier in it for some reason you can't uh for however this picture's cropped you can't
Starting point is 00:08:21 see the chandelier the toilet's too far from the wall uh i what what the what the look at that lighting fixture behind the toilet like you're just going to like sit there and read the payload specs for a b2 stealth bomber while you take a shit and then go back to like a tacky wedding buffet what is the point of any of this and this is like everything is all right let's let's get to today all right so trump was indicted on 37 counts him and him and some aide named Walt Nauta, who this guy, he's the guy who apparently was cleaning the pool and flooded the server room. Same guy.
Starting point is 00:08:55 He used to be in the Navy, and he worked at the White House in, like, the mess hall. So he had a nice career in the Navy doing, like, non-combat shit, working in, like, the White House as a cook or a food buser or something, and he gave it all up to do federal crimes for Donald Trump to be his personal valet. The charges include willful retention of national. national security documents, conspiracy to obstruct justice, and making false statements, because he just lied to the fucking cops through face over and over, over again. Trump pleaded not guilty, didn't have to take a mugshot, because everybody knows he looks
Starting point is 00:09:29 like. Then he went and got some Cuban food at a restaurant where everyone sang him, happy birthday, because tomorrow is the big boy's birthday. Oh, that's nice. I didn't actually see it, but I heard in that Cuban restaurant, he started bitching about like immigration or something like that, like the country's borders or something, while in a Cuban restaurant where people were like praying for them and stuff like that to be fair. So everything is pretty dumb.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Also, I want to backtrack just a little bit. You called up that picture and it took producer Matt a second to get it up there. I want to take that opportunity. I know producer Matt's under a little bit more pressure this week because we found out before the show. He's staying in his parents' house temporarily and his parents are watching right now and worried that he's going to screw things up. Evidently, that's what he told us. They worry about his capacity to get the pictures and videos up there in due time.
Starting point is 00:10:16 and we're watching, to quote his mom, watching it like NASCAR, just to see the crashes. So, uh, hi-hdy there, Mama and Papa, producer Matt. I hope you're enjoying things.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And we think that your boy's doing just fine. Uh, anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to producer mama and Papa. Uh, thank you guys for watching
Starting point is 00:10:38 and for giving birth to producer Matt and for, uh, allowing us to, uh, fuck with him because that's always fun. But like, again, nothing happened to Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:10:46 except he went, had to fly to Miami and go out for lunch after making a brief stop at the courthouse. The judge didn't even allow cameras in the courtroom or audio recording. So basically, it looked like a produced motorcade parade. So, like, it didn't even look bad for him. But
Starting point is 00:11:00 this is how it's been processed to right-wing media if you got this video of Mark Levin on Fox News from the day the indictments came down. They're throwing all these process crimes and all these crimes that grow out of the criminal investigation against Trump. What did he do with the documents? Did he sell him to the
Starting point is 00:11:16 enemy? No. That's why we have an espionage act. Not the trick of a president. What did he do? Did he burn them all? No, the government has all the documents back. So there is no... No, they don't. They don't. It's a lie. At this point. But they throw the book at him. They go after his attorneys. They made them testify. So it's like this guy seems to be accepting the fact that he had documents, right? Because it's all like, what did he do and sell him to foreign power? But first of all, don't know that. You know, and he's like, did he keep them? No, he gave him back, like you said.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Don't know that either. It seems, you know, at least some are still missing. But like, at the very least, he left them laying around the bathroom and stuff, which I'm pretty sure still counts as something you're not supposed to do with highly classified national security related documents. So I don't really know what this guy is so upset about. If there isn't a spy agency in the. world who hasn't bought a membership to Morlago with Petty Cash by now so they can walk around
Starting point is 00:12:22 and talk to the most gossipy as fucking dude in the planet, I would be stunned. They should be fired for incompetence. It would be the first thing I would do if I was any foreign spy agency. But that's not even the point. They're freaking out like Trump's getting like treated poorly. He's already received so much preferential treatment. One, he was not charged in any way for the 197 documents that he stole but returned voluntarily. that's another way
Starting point is 00:12:46 which he makes this all fucking stupider. Chuck Grassley Senator Chuck Grassley said he hasn't written the indictment because he's not a legal analyst. By the way,
Starting point is 00:12:57 he's previously chaired the Senate Judiciary Committee. Things cannot keep getting dumber at this rate. I'm going to fucking die. Marco Rubio, whose main argument in the 2016 primary
Starting point is 00:13:12 about why Donald Trump shouldn't be allowed to be president, which is that we couldn't trust him with nuclear secrets. He was proven right, but instead of taking the win, he's come to Donald Trump's aid saying this is like a political prosecution, which, again, he got extra deferential treatment. He's been treated like, when I say he got like preferential treatment, when I'm talking about like, they're going all in for this guy, a bunch of them are.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Some of them were pulling back. We'll get to that a little bit. But like, this is a guy who's now been arrested twice as many times as he was elected. And he still won't let go of him. Lindsey Graham went on the Sunday show, has made the rounds. And he was on the verge of fucking tears. Now, talk about how we're stuck. And we're stuck being stupid as long as this man's alive.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Listen to Lindsey Graham talk about this case. Donald Trump has said repeatedly, repeatedly that he did nothing wrong. Do you believe that? Well, here's what I believe. We live in an America where if you're the Democratic candidate for president, Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State, you can set up a private server in your basement to conduct government business and when an investigation has had about your activity, no, let me finish. You got it, Matt.
Starting point is 00:14:26 So why are we talking about- Mark, he was fired up. Why are we talking about Hillary Clinton in the year of our Lord 2023? Like, what fucking time warp were we trapped in? But if we're going to talk about the actual facts here, Hillary Clinton was careless with classified information, but her behavior wasn't nearly as like, consciously criminal nor was like nor was information is highly classified for one like i looked it up the most seriously classified materials in hillary clinton's possessions emails was a mismarch
Starting point is 00:14:53 call sheet containing biographical details of the incoming president of malawi and she was calling to congratulate so a lot of stuff is overclassified right this is essentially the president of malawi's wikipedia page that's what she had right that's the most serious thing she fucking had most of classified materials you had were news articles about drone strikes. Why they would classify that? I have no idea. Probably so they don't want the media knowing that they're tracking what drone strikes they're reporting
Starting point is 00:15:21 on, which is fucking awful to contemplate. But like, I was thinking a lot, talking about this, like, both Hillary and Donald Trump did get special treatment because anybody else would have been thrown under a prison for this. I remember somebody's wedding, but like that's sort of like baked into democratic process because if you, if you, These people who are elected or appointed to these positions. They're giving all this classified shit to keep track of.
Starting point is 00:15:45 There's sort of like a baked-in idea that they're going to, like, lose some of it. Like Joe Biden and Mike Pence, like, did find classified documents their home residences. They voluntarily turned over and they realized they had them because like, oops, we're not supposed to have this shit, which is what's supposed to happen is you just like, I'll fuck it up. I gave it back. What Trump did was refused to give it back. Right. You have some of the back lie about having given all of it back when you really kept some. Then the FBI said, no, we know you have more of it.
Starting point is 00:16:12 He fucking got this Walton of Yuta guy to move the boxes around. So the FBI couldn't find them, including flying them back and forth from New Jersey to Florida to keep them hidden. All right. Right. But it's time to my, sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say like, yeah, the idea that, you know, like you said, it's kind of backed in. Oh, you could fuck up. Oh, I didn't realize I had that or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:32 But then you realize and you just give it back. There's a whole other level of, I mean, it is bad that he had them all, but it, What's really bad is that he, like, had him, knew it, was told he wasn't supposed to have them, continued to keep them, gave some back while keeping others, and then also just the way he conducted himself, himself, in regards to the ones that he kept, which we'll get to a little bit later. But on that note, Drew is here. We'll go ahead and bring him out and just have a three-headed dragon for the show. What's up, Drew? Hey, guys. I was in black and white backstage, and I was very nervous, so I'm glad to see myself in color here.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I thought perhaps my phone knew that I was in the rural south and thought, well, let's take it back to the 50s, just like they do with voting. I was going to ask where, yeah, so you're back home in Morgan County. What's, what's the, what's the climate like that? Oh, buddy, pandemonium in the street, celebration everywhere. There was a parade earlier. Everyone is so relieved that the orange man is behind. But no, honestly, no one knows. That's the funniest part of this.
Starting point is 00:17:34 My father-in-law was watching Fox News all morning. The lead story, I'm not kidding, the lead story was the Oklahoma women softball team won the World Series, and the lead story was that they gave God the glory. I am not, that's not hyperbole. That is literally what it was, was faith in sports, giving God the glory, Oklahoma World Series champs. And they had some milk-toast white girl on there who could probably hit a long ball, talking about how Jesus was the reason that they won.
Starting point is 00:18:07 By the way, they haven't lost in nine years. Oh, hell yeah. Congratulations to the Oklahoma winning softball team. And Jesus. And Jesus. Yeah. Jesus is always newsworthy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But anyway, go ahead. We're, so we end up Drew on because Drew is not just a lawyer. He's also a former defense lawyer. He also worked in the Miami Public Defender's Office. So he has experience, you know, and helping criminals get off in Florida, which is an important theme of this. this episode. I was about to tell Trey about this high school classmate of mine. I was hanging out with it in a buddy's wedding in like 20, it must have been 2016. And she went on to work in the CIA.
Starting point is 00:18:48 She, from context, she couldn't say what she did, but like doing overseas shit. And she was really, really mad about Hillary's private email server, not because of politics. Her politics would probably send her left, but because she was just like, I would fucking go to jail for like a thousand years if I had done that. And she's probably not wrong. Just like Donald Trump, if I got caught with like nuclear secrets in my toilet, I'd be fucking under a prison. But he's not. And they're still crying about him getting like the two-tier justice system fucking him specifically. And it's driving me insane. Right. Um, these people cannot stop crying. Like we have a, we have a one to one case here. Reality winner just got out of prison fairly
Starting point is 00:19:28 recently. She put one national, she was a security car, uh, for private contractor, defense contractor who went outside the scope of a security clerk, look up documents on Russian election interference, and she found some evidence that Russia trying to hack like some local voting precincts. She mailed that document to intercept a publication and goes sentenced to five years in prison. When she was arrested, she did not get released her in her own recognizance like Donald Trump did. She went directly to jail and was never released until she'd finished serving her sentence, which ended up being like four and a half years. So fuck anybody, they think Donald Trump's being treated unfairly.
Starting point is 00:20:05 He's being fallated by the criminal justice system after being caught. Anyway. Drew, I wanted to ask you just generally because Mark said you were at public defender in Miami specifically. Obviously, this is an extremely, this is like a singular case. It's literally unprecedented. I get all that.
Starting point is 00:20:23 But like, and also it was years ago when you were there, but like, just based on your knowledge of that region and the justice system and the courts and whatnot, like how what like was it it pretty okay was it corrupt as hell like how did it stack up american justice system wise were you like yeah i mean obviously at the federal level so trump's being indicted in federal court that's its own ecosystem for lack of a better word um
Starting point is 00:20:51 but miami date itself is of kind of the wild west when it comes to the court system other than maybe orleans parish i don't personally know of what i would call an unhealthier situation in terms of the courthouse, police's relationship with the public, judges' relationship with the public, judges' relationship with the police, prosecutors' relationship with public defenders, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, we were taught and trained to be cowboys. And what I mean by that is it was like, fuck you, we're going to trial because you're all corrupt, you're all overworked, you're all dumb,
Starting point is 00:21:27 you all got your jobs because of who your daddy was, and Miami is just that kind of place. whereas then I came to Knoxville where I was a public defender and they had to kind of scale me back because I was kind of like fuck you, fuck the prosecutors, fuck the cops and people were like, hey, they give us good deals here
Starting point is 00:21:44 and we have a healthy community so maybe don't do that. So I can only comment on the state but at the state level, yeah, Miami's pretty fucking corrupt, dude. I mean, you've got a lot of different players down there and obviously there's a shit ton of money anytime you got that going on. I mean, who wouldn't want to be a judge in Miami?
Starting point is 00:22:03 So, yeah, corruption is huge. At the federal level, though, I can't imagine it's any worse. I would say it doesn't even stack up to Manhattan in terms of the power play. You know, it's where you kind of go to fuck off into the sunset. It's not where you go to be involved in shit. Yeah, I don't really element of those. I didn't realize, I'm not sure when they made the decision to indict him in Miami. it appears to be so they can keep the D.C. circuit, I mean, obviously for jurisdictional issues because, like, Trump's team could appeal if they convict them in the wrong venue. But there's an argument he made that he also committed the crimes in D.C. because that's where he stole the documents from. But I think they're also, like, keeping the deck cleared so they can use the D.C. as a venue for whatever J6 charges they have come in, which is the real thing, the T. The T. Leaf I was reading here.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Well, I think that, I think that's probably true, but also think of what his defense is going to. to be. One of them is going to be that these weren't classified by my own desire that they not be classified. He's going to have to prove that he took some steps to do that, but any of those steps would apply in D.C. They wouldn't apply post-presidency, which is, so there's almost like a hypothetical framework that we've got to imagine in our minds, and it gets a little boring. I was hoping to come on here and talk shit on Donald Trump, but I guess we do have to go through the minutia of this stuff, like the moment he stops being president, he's supposed to return those. The moment they say, hey, return these, he's definitely supposed to return
Starting point is 00:23:37 those. You're in Florida when that goes down. So that removes a chunk of, or makes harder for him to get at a chunk of his likely defense. So I think that's the other reason they did it. Gotcha, because like the conspiracy charges all took place in Florida. It makes sense to me. but like all that being said like all the stuff trump did right if he had done nothing to like like if he did nothing to comply with the various efforts to recover the files still lied about having them but just let the feds take the documents back after they're during one of their many attempts there's basically zero chance he gets indicted he could do everything but have that Walt dude move the boxes and he'd fucking wouldn't have caught charges
Starting point is 00:24:21 this is like absolutely fucking insane but like talking talking about talking about about Trump's defense. He's on recording saying, waving documents around being like, I would show this to you, but it's still classified. How'd they get that? Do we know how they got that recording? Is it going to, is it going to stand up? Yeah. He was giving an interview to a guy was writing an autobiography of Mark Millie. Sorry, autobiography of Mark of Mark Meadows. That's so funny. That's like the one law school exception to everything that you would be able to throw. It's like, Wait a minute. You're telling me that this dude was talking to the press.
Starting point is 00:25:00 This dude was talking to a writer, and he probably put in writing somewhere that this dude can't record him. It's also not just that he said these are classified. He specifically said, I could have declassified this when I was president, but I didn't. And now I can't. So this is still secret. So he literally kind of just like spells it out in this recording they have, evidently. If I was his lawyer, I'd probably kill myself. This is like, so.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Well, they've come close to it. They've all like jumped off the ship. Well, two of them resigned the day he got indicted, which is wild because that's very touch and go in terms of lawyer ethics. You can't really abandon your client just because the case is hard. So I don't know, you know, that may be the least of Trump's worries. I think only Trump could bring that bar complaint. But I found that hilarious and very interesting. Just like, excuse us, Judge, we're off the case.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Okay, what grounds? Did you hear what he said in the interview, Your Honor? Yeah. So, yeah, two guys resigned the day the indictments came down, like hours before they did, but they obviously knew they were coming. One of his main lawyers resigned a month ago has been all of CNN talking about what a dumbass Donald Trump as the client, how dysfunctional legal team is. Another one of his lawyers, former lawyers, is the main witness against him because Trump tried to engage him in the conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:26:28 He basically instructed this guy to hide documents. The guy who quit and the State and the, you know, the Department of Justice Pierce crime fraud exemption because the reason he quit because Donald Trump was trying to get him to participate in a crime. So there's really no defense there. But yeah, they tried to get this article right here in the Rolling Stone says they tried to recruit Alan Dershowitz to take over. He was a lawyer in this case, and he turned them down. This is a guy that represented O.J. Simpson pro bono. And flew around with Jeffrey Epstein. He's like, no, I'm not doing this shit.
Starting point is 00:27:00 But, New... Sorry, go ahead. I was just going to ask, Drew, so that you mentioned a lot of the evidence is coming from one of his former lawyers who he tried to get to participate in the guy didn't want to or whatever. I also read an interview that Trump gave. He was lamenting all this saying that either he said it used to be this way or should be this way or something that lawyers aren't allowed to be witnesses. or take part in like a case like this on account of their loggers, Drew. Yes. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:27:26 100%. That is true. 99.999% of the time, the only time an attorney can be part of the witness team for the prosecution is when you try to get the attorney blatantly to help you cover up your crime, not defend you. Not like, hey, I did this. Here's where the body is. What do we do? but hey the body's over there will you go move it
Starting point is 00:27:52 and even then in many states that lawyer doesn't have to tell on you they just have to say all right we're done I can't be your lawyer anymore unless they get subpoenaed and then they get subpoenaed and they call to the witness stand now they have to spill the beans
Starting point is 00:28:08 that's going to cut like seven ways though and something that we talked about on the well red podcast when we touched on it briefly is that to prove that attorney-client privilege doesn't exist, they're going to have to have a lot of hearings behind closed doors if this goes to trial. The pretrial hearings are going to be a nightmare. They need someone as smart as Alan Dershowitz.
Starting point is 00:28:30 They're not going to find them. It's going to be some dipshit at dipshit and dipshit LLC. And they're going to have to have all these in-camera, like just the judge hearings because they're going to say this is all privileged. and in case it is privileged, they have to hear it in private. Here's the flip side of that. The prosecution is saying these are all classified documents. Well, in order to win their case, they're going to have to prove that they are, in fact, classified documents.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And that's going to take slightly more than just someone saying, it says it at the top, Your Honor. It's going to take a little bit more than that. That's also probably going to have to happen in private because the public cannot, by definition, hear these. That's the whole fucking point of why we're having this trial. Some attorney knows that, knows that, knows that they, they'll be able to cause a quagmire, knows that they'll be able to make their bones, knows that they'll be able to be a talking head forever
Starting point is 00:29:20 and the hero to some of these other dip shits, but also knows they're not going to get paid, also knows they're ultimately going to lose, also knows they're going to have an insane fucking person as their client driving the ship. That's the other thing about being a defense lawyer in this case. You've got to kind of do what he says. And like I was saying Mark on well read the tray,
Starting point is 00:29:40 like I wish I could be his lawyer so fucking bad because I would literally just do whatever he said to do. And I would be totally fine ethically as far as the bar goes. My client wanted me to file this saying fuck Hillary Clinton as a motion. Your Honor, we as a defense move to fuck Hillary Clinton. This is not appropriate. Judge, I tried to tell him, but I had to give my client the zealous defense here.
Starting point is 00:30:05 So it's going to be fun if you are a masochist and you don't have any positive feelings towards America and her future. This is absolutely the swan song of the end of this great democracy. And we got a front row seat to it. It's really, really something else. See, this actually is one of the, I don't think, like, we'll get to the punishment phase.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I don't think actually, I don't think Trump's actually going to, he's not going to fucking jail. He's just going to be miserable. Mark, it's so hard to fathom them finding him guilty of this and him not going to jail. Like, I hear you, I haven't read the statute specifically. I never thought he'd be indicted. What you just said is part of the reason why.
Starting point is 00:30:46 It's not that I disagree with you in my soul or as a social studies guy. Like socially, the way politics work, you're right. But looking at these charges, I literally don't know how you find them guilty and he doesn't go to. I don't know. I mean, I'm not sure probation is an option at the federal level for, this is basically fucking treason. Like, I don't know what the specific charges are. are, there may be a way to put him on probation. And if there is, I agree
Starting point is 00:31:15 with you, they will. I just like, yeah, I saw some white-collar lawyer, lawyers saying, like, technically it's just Trump's first defense, even though we know he's been a career criminal, but, you know, he's never been convicted of anything. First offense of what, though? Anything.
Starting point is 00:31:30 No, but I mean, what is the charge exactly? He is being accused of. Go ahead. Let's see. I mean, conspiracy to obstruct justice. a willful retention of national security documents, making false statements. There's 37 total counts.
Starting point is 00:31:48 But, like, I'm more thinking of logistics of putting a former president in prison. Like, I just don't think the government has the capacity to do that unless they block out a whole wing of a supermax. Then they're going to have to get him to take a deal where that second charge you just mentioned is not on there. I could be wrong. But I think that it's hard for me to imagine that when you go read the statutory punishment for that. that the minimum isn't jail time. I do what I, before, before moving on,
Starting point is 00:32:17 I, like, his former lawyer's testimony is all over the indictment. So I feel like they've already pierced the crime fraud exception. I don't think they could appeal it, right? And try to take it to a high level of judge to try to get it, get that taken away. But I think I've already done that. But you said the next lawyer is going to be a huge dumbass. We've already found him. There's a guy named Chris Kice and his notice of appearance.
Starting point is 00:32:37 This killed me. You're talking about how you're not, you're not supposed to be able to quit. because the case is hard. He's notice of permanent appearance on Trump's behalf included this last clause. Feed a abuse between counsel and client shall not be the basis for withdrawal from this representation. Trump made him agree that he can't quit just because he doesn't get paid.
Starting point is 00:32:55 That's amazing. That's mostly why they've got, he's refused to pay a lot of lawyers in the past, not just lawyers, fucking contractors, just anybody in general works for him. But like he's got a track record of that. Lawyers,
Starting point is 00:33:10 contractors, Mexicans, fucking people who fold his sheets, people who do the deals for him, probably people who worked on the apprentice, the people who make his shirts in China. Yep, the people who fuck him.
Starting point is 00:33:24 He don't pay. But he does make you famous. And that's got to be what this whippersnapper's goal is. I imagine this is a young person, Mark. Do we see a picture? No, I haven't looked into his background at all. My guess is his 40s.
Starting point is 00:33:38 My guess is his suits fits. too tight, uh, just if he is based in Miami. Um, what are we reading here? Walt, well, so I wanted to, I actually wanted to ask you about this guy. Oh, that's, that's sad, dude. Okay, I was, see, I was going to ask you about this dude specifically. So Walt, not, Nauta or Nauta, or every say his name is, uh, this former Navy guy who worked as Trump's eight or whatever. And he's the dude that moved all the boxes around back and forth. He also, like, drained a pool into room, which destroyed a bunch of evidence and all this shit or whatever. But I wanted to ask you like uh call that the panama canal yeah this dude i'm sure probably did no and
Starting point is 00:34:18 but like draining a pool yeah right but if you're and maybe they're just charging him because they already know that i'm just wondering if you like work for someone like donald trump in this capacity as like a porter and whatever else and he tells you move those boxes from there to there and those boxes contain on it's classified information shit like that like is normally that a problem Or it's like they've got to know this dude was, like, operating on a higher level. Like, there's more element here. The feds had questioned him and he lied to the feds of moving the boxes and Trump had instructed him a lie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:50 That's the conspiracy part of this. Okay. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely, it's definitely going to be easy to prove he's part of the conspiracy, but I would say their main goal is to get him to talk. You know, you file the charges, you threaten him with everything. And then you're like, all right, or you can be our second star witness. And that's going to get interesting because I guess. guarantee you as a non-disclosure agreement. And there's some, I don't remember the case law, but there's some interesting case law on whether or not that you can claim that if you're being asked to testify in a criminal case.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I think he's going to have to testify and then Trump's going to later sue him for going against his NDA, which is also funny. If he doesn't flip, the government doesn't want him. If he doesn't flip, he's a fucking moron. But going back to the law of the stupidity of this, the judge today instructed him to not have to, any contact with any witnesses after Naota, Naota or whatever his name is, and Trump were seated next to each other in court. They left together, went to lunch together, flew to
Starting point is 00:35:50 Bedminster together where they're doing a fundraiser this evening where other witnesses are in attendance. All right? So judges are going to contact witnesses and he's throwing a wall witness party with his buddy Walt. This judge is really in an interesting situation because obviously this is one of Trump's appointees and they have a career that they want to keep.
Starting point is 00:36:10 and maybe keep going, and there's going to be a lot of powers that be that wanted to do certain things. But also, Trump and Walt apparently are just like literally flying right in his judge's face in terms of, fuck you, we won't do what you told us. And that's going to be interesting. Judges don't like that. The main case, they drew Eileen Cannon again, who's the same judge who tried to fuck this case in the beginning by appointing by appointing by appointing for the documents and trying to stop the government from investigating. She's a Trump appointee. But the judge today for the arraignment was a different judge. I don't know that person's background.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Well, whoever does they have the power to hold of both in contempt, which is what they've done. Right. That's what crime they committed today. Yeah. They're still, they're just doing more fucking crimes the day they got to. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And potentially witness tampering. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Just doing it. What's going to be hilarious is if Walt is miced up right now. So that they can get him on another one. Now that would fucking rule. If someone was like, you know he's going to tamper with this guy.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Let's just let him. Yeah. Well, on that note, like we mentioned, a lot of the cases against him are built from like his former lawyers and stuff. And if this dude flips and others talk about like Mark Meadows flipping and stuff like that. And they call it the opposition, you know, calls it a witch hunt and everything. But a lot of the evidence and testimony is going to be coming from people that work directly for Trump. But I guess their rationale would be like, yeah, but they have a vendetta against him. Because they, you know, whatever I, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:38 they couldn't handle how patriotic he was or something. This is not like, look, innocent people do get railroaded by cops forcing their friends to turn against them. But Trump's not like a corner weed dealer, all right? Like, I even hate the pack of people using allegedly in this. The government would not come for a former president who might be their boss again in two years. If they didn't have all the T's and eyes tied. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:38:02 So, like, the idea that, like, they wouldn't pull the trigger on this, without fucking having him dead to rights is like extremely silly to me. No, the only time people lose federal cases on the prosecution side is when their evidence gets thrown out. And they have an overwhelming amount here. It's not going to happen. He's going to lose, which I can't believe I'm saying that because I just didn't think anything like this was going to happen a year ago.
Starting point is 00:38:25 That's where I get back to the jail thing though, Mark. He could still be their boss, especially if he's out, you know, because he's allowed to run, which I'm sure you guys have covered. So all this is wild. is completely unprecedented. I think the people who are up in arms, the fair-ish gripe that they have is that Hillary Clinton did break a law.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And it is sort of similar to Trump's. She didn't do it repeatedly, blatantly, nor say on tape that she was doing it and continuing to do it. I'm reminded of that movie grown-ups where Paul Rutt's girlfriend has that client. And then he's like, that's not me. And then on tape he goes,
Starting point is 00:39:04 I can't believe it's me. John Jones committing a crime in a way and it's like it's that freaking blatant so I mean my point is morally these people if they want to talk about like if you feel aggrieved and you feel like the media and everyone skews to the left too much and Hillary's evil and part of the Illuminati nothing about this will dissuade you I get that but the other side of that is yeah but she is a better criminal this is part of why she She would have been a better president. She accidentally committed this crime.
Starting point is 00:39:39 The one she did on purpose, we don't fucking know about. This dude committed this crime on purpose, told a fucking writer who was writing a book. This is why I can't believe they think he's smart. He is the dumbest motherfucker ever, but he keeps winning. So there is a part of me, it's like Brady when he was down 21 at halftime against the Falcons, and people were like, it ain't over yet. He's Tom Brady. Donald Trump is the Tom Brady of getting out of shit.
Starting point is 00:40:08 So I will see. Yeah. We like you said he said he said he said he told something to a, you know, he confessed it to a writer. But it not, he did that on tape on the record. But like reportedly, he was just showing everybody that came through all of these and like bragging about that was like, that was like, that was apparently his like his whole motivation. I'm sure he probably sold some of these and did whatever else too. It wouldn't surprise me. But like reportedly, he mostly.
Starting point is 00:40:34 was just, like, having people in there and being like, hey, check this shit out. That's pretty rad. I can't let you read that. I know you'd like to. It's top secret. That's why. His only crime is hitting too hard. I agree.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So, like to say, Matt, I know we're jumping around a lot, but let's go, let's go down in the motive section because, like, he was, as far as I can tell from the indictment, just hitting. All right. So this is the headline I'm reading right now. Trump's messy bragging is all over this indictment. Like, him to quote from the indictment.
Starting point is 00:41:04 here. It's like highly confidential, he says. Then the tape, this is on the tape to record it. It's like highly confidential. CNN reports the tape captures the sound of paper rustling as if Trump was waving a document around. Secret. This is secret information. Look at this. He says in the transcript, you attack
Starting point is 00:41:21 and, and then the transcript cuts out, presumably because they cut out the stuff that was classified that Trump was telling the fucking reporter about. Well, that's funny because one of my hypothetical defenses that Trey asked me to give some defenses when we did well read was, well, I would argue with the tapes he was lying like he was just waving some papers around trying to get his
Starting point is 00:41:41 dick sucked like oh these are classified and he'd be like yeah Trump's the consummate entertainer were you not entertained by that but he's literally reading them on the tape all right so in that scenario if that was the case then the government fabricated evidence against them because they recovered a bunch of top secret shit that he had all right no i'm not talking about them fabricating evidence. I'm talking about on the tape, it seems like he's doing it, but his defense is, yeah, I wanted the person I was talking to
Starting point is 00:42:10 to think I was doing that, but really it was just some resumes or whatever. But what I'm saying is, even that very goofy defense, which is pretty paper thin, won't work because apparently he's not just going, see these? These are classified. He's then going, I mean, look right here. And then he's reading
Starting point is 00:42:26 them? Yeah. He's done. I used to defend 13-year-olds, and they were better criminals than Donald Trump. They would put their crimes on Facebook. They would tag the victims, and they were better criminals than Donald Trump. But he's just been like, you know, he's been the same guy's whole life. He's never really gotten in trouble for any of it.
Starting point is 00:42:48 He's gotten away with all that, like you said, his whole life. And now he's a former president on top of that. Like, of course, he fully believes that he could just do all this shit and nothing will ever matter. I mean, hell, honestly, why wouldn't he believe that? But, you know. This is like, let me quote here. Like, okay, this headline says showing off was Trump's motive. And I tend to generally agree with what's in the public record so far.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Like this person is talking about the New York Times said the federal prosecutors, quote, did not supply a motive for Mr. Trump's actions, but described incidents at which he appeared to be showing off the material. That is the fucking motive. That is the fucking motive. And he's like, he's just a fucking petty, dumbass. Even on Fox News, here's the positive spin I'm saying his motive was just to show up. If you have this video, Matt, this is Byron York on Fox News earlier today. Yeah. It's actually quite simple, guys.
Starting point is 00:43:39 This was right after theory about why the former president did keep this stuff. There are two possible reasons. One is souvenirs. He really liked mementos. His office in New York spilled with him. And the letter from Kim Jong-un would fit into that. He was really, he was taken with those letters that he got from Kim Jong-on. And he read them to people in the Oval Office.
Starting point is 00:44:02 He thought they were quite amusing. So, yeah. Just sitting in there looking at the, you know, just like, ah, this one reminds me of the time we almost bombed Iran. It really takes me back, doesn't it? Drew, if I take a diamond necklace from a jewelry store and say I just like to keep mementos, am I, therefore, not criminally liable? No, I think, I don't think I can get you out of that one.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Maybe if you work there and the owner let you have it for a little while, but even then it's touch and go I think that you touched on it earlier Trey and you did just now a little bit
Starting point is 00:44:37 and might have been Mark somebody was talking about some of the things the people running against him brought up Rubio
Starting point is 00:44:45 all the people who ran against him they would say things about Trump in the primaries like he's just not fit for this role
Starting point is 00:44:53 he simply is not presidential this is where we're at now that alone is not a crime but my point with that is this dude literally can't not keep these things like he as mark said he had every opportunity to just give him back and he was like but they're mine right he can't his brains it's really wild his brain is genuinely unique i have to give him that it cannot fathom that he don't get to keep the letter from kim joan But it wasn't, it was also a war plan for, like, let's get to the war plan for an invasion of Iran because the doc, like, we, we talked about that in a previous episode, but there's no context to it. But the context here is hilarious because what had happened was, because the ego thing cuts both ways. It's not just showing off. It's also like a psychic, like a psychic defense, like protecting his own ego, thinking he can't not hit. All right. So when he was talking to Mark, Mark Meadows biographer, the context of this, before we get to reading this in a second. There was a story at the end of the Trump administration with anonymous sources said that the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Mark Millie, had ordered, had warned the Defense Department and commanders in the field to not follow any illegal orders coming to the White House because the White House was so fucking chaotic and Trump was going crazy. And the context of it was like Millie was basically saying he was worried that Trump was going to order an invasion or a bombing of Iran.
Starting point is 00:46:28 to sort of wag the dog as part of an effort to stay president. All right. So what Trump was doing when he was talking to this writer was he was, you can put that back up, Matt. He's saying that it wasn't my idea to invade Iran. Here's a military plan to invade Iran. They made. They gave it to me.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Let me read this with this quote, Trump. This was done by the military and given to me. I think we can probably, right? Staffer, I don't know. We'll have to see. Yeah, we'll have to try to. Trump, declassify it. staffer figure out a yeah
Starting point is 00:46:59 Trump see as a president I could have declassified it staffer yeah laughter Trump now I can't you know but this is still a secret staffer yeah laughter now we have a problem Trump isn't that interesting all right so dude as as script writers there's so much going on in those
Starting point is 00:47:15 parentheses with the laughter as an actor it's like what kind of laughter is that nervous laughter nervous laughter he's showing a writer a plan to invade Iran which again we talked about previously
Starting point is 00:47:29 but like they have plans to evade everybody they're planning to evade all our fucking apartments there are a list somewhere it's not proof that Trump wasn't dangerous with regard to Iran but he's making himself the subject of a federal criminal indictment to push back on a three and a half year old news story
Starting point is 00:47:43 everyone already forgot but he remembers it's petty beefs all the way down so you follow just to follow order events with Trump's personal beef with fucking Iran he scuttled the Iran nuclear deal he postured frequently about attacking Iran scaring his own generals.
Starting point is 00:47:59 He ordered a drone strike that killed an Iranian general named Kassam Soleimani, who was a huge national hero over there, which was such a crazy action. And Mossad repeatedly turned down the opportunity to kill fucking Soleimani. And Mossad is infinitely more crazy than the CIA. So you got offended. Then he got offended the generals were afraid he might invade Iran. But then he got a hold of a top secret standard and ran invasion contingency plan.
Starting point is 00:48:21 He stole the plan to settle to score against Mark Millie. Right. We're so deep into Trump lore that no one understands it. of Trump. Oh, God. So I wanted to ask Drew a couple other lawyer questions about this, or at least one. Like you said earlier, it's like, if they convict federal, federal cases have like 98% prosecution rate or something crazy. I like that.
Starting point is 00:48:47 They've got all this evidence. You're like, if they convict him, I don't know how you give him probation with something like this. But on the convicting and part, one thing I'm curious about from your perspective, like there's going to be a jury. right? Like, how, like, how do you go about that? Because I know one of the things they said about this canon lady who's his appointee and is a lunatic herself, like, she could fuck with the jury selection process knowingly putting people on there who are like, you know, wearing red hats in court and, you know, whatever else. But like, I mean, what do you, I mean, how do you approach that anywhere in this country? Like, all, listen, first of all, the whole jail thing, I should
Starting point is 00:49:24 have been more clear, I'm in if he won't take a plea. And there's, that's the only reason for him to take a plea right now is if they say, we won't give you any jail time. And it would be the logical thing for him to do because then he can play the victim without being in jail
Starting point is 00:49:40 and can run for president again, and then pardon himself or whatever the fuck he's got planned for that. But, because it's Trump, because he's so petty, he stole a document to win an argument that was three years goal that no one else even remembered he might go to trial that's a nightmare for everyone if he loses and that's what i meant earlier i can't imagine him not going to prison if he loses that
Starting point is 00:50:04 trial i don't think you can force the state or the or the feds to take you to trial and then expect probation at the end on this case on the other side to your point tray it just takes one right it just takes one fucking juror and he has a right to have a right to the right to a trial by jury. The state can not decide to do a trial by the court, by judge. It just takes one fucking juror, and they can literally just go, not guilty.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Why? I don't think he did it. And that's it. So wrap yourselves up in that tonight. Everyone who thinks the orange man bad go away. It's funny to me that like we're across the Rubikar moment
Starting point is 00:50:49 in a lot of ways, because like at this point, both the government and Trump are in a weird box because you're right like any plea deal Trump would would be offered would probably include an agreement for him not to run for president I don't know if they can do that legally I don't know how they could sure I can't but but the thing is I don't know how if Trump accepts that deal but then still runs the government goes back and prosecutes him but he then he can rightfully say he's being politically prosecuted for running for president see what I do so like there's like there's
Starting point is 00:51:22 This is a hugely weirdly complicated situation, but just to get for the record, the charges, he's being charged on the Espionage Act. And the Espionage Act charges face them, each, each defendant for each charge faces the maximum sentence of 10 years. They're not going to sentence consecutively. I guess it'd be considerably, concurrently, whatever they did. The tampering and consumer charges used to carry maximum prison sentence of 20 years. What's the minimum?
Starting point is 00:51:48 I mean, minimums go all the way down. I didn't see a minimum. um but like these are 37 charges so anyway uh i just let's how the reason i'm the reason i'm asking mark is there are some federal laws where probation is is not even allowed right i mean like he would plead down to a lesser charge though right well he could yeah that's what i was saying if he if he makes them take him to trial that i should have been clear earlier i can't imagine him not going to prison can he should take a plea and that's exactly why i don't think he's going to. And this is why he's the Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:52:21 of committing political crimes. He is down 30 at halftime boys, but it literally just takes one juror. Just one Rob Grankowski juror catching four touchdowns over the middle, and my man is back in the gang. Maybe he just knows that or is banking on that.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Like, good luck putting a jury together. It doesn't include at least one person who's, you know, a Trump lover or whatever. I mean, God knows. I mean, I'm sure he's convinced that he could never actually go down for this, but. buddy the more i'm thinking about it i think i could win this fucking case i'm not even like i mean it's a lottery ticket right because you said you got to get
Starting point is 00:52:57 uh 12 sane people will be like obviously he's guilty and vote yeah it's all one of what voir dire is when you pick the jury this if this goes to trial that's the whole fucking case right there right and i i don't know at the federal level and my and florida you could only strike three apiece so if there are four magas on there there's nothing you could do as a prosecutor you're losing can we uh before we get out of here i wanted to talk about the because there's going to be so much he's going to fucking walk but then he's got to deal with the j6 charges in dc with the dc jury i don't like his chances of finding a maga hat there uh so i want to talk to the espion izac for a second because there's
Starting point is 00:53:41 going to be a lot of bullshit around his trial and the right has become really good at adopting like left wing postures when it comes to like stuff like specifically the the FBI and the federal government. You know, like, for example, the agent provocateurs, they think started Jay's January 6th, which is fucking ridiculous. But there are agent provocateurs, and they do infiltrate in political movements, just not theirs. But so the espionage act is largely a lot of bullshit.
Starting point is 00:54:05 It was passed in 1917. It's mostly been used to crack down, like whistleblowers, leakers, and left-wing political agitators. Like, for example, like, Corey the other day was asking us, like, how can, how can, how come a felon can run for president. I'm like, well, it's good that felons can run for president. Can you look at the people that have been convicted under the espionage act previously? Eugene V. Deves ran for president five times as a socialist. Once got six percent of the vote, ran a bunch of those times from prison. The stuff he was sent to prison for included
Starting point is 00:54:36 protesting the draft during World War I. And he was imprisoned for leading a railroad strike under the guys that he interfered with the mail. All right? That's fucking bullshund. shit. Daniel Ellsberg was prosecuted under the Espionage Act for releasing the Pentagon papers and would have faced like a hundred years in prison for trying to get the word out that America knew we were losing the Vietnam War and they were pushing forward anyway because they were afraid to admit that we'd lost. And he was only not, didn't die in prison because the G. Gordon Liddy robbed his psychiatrist office and plotted with it while inside the White House to murder Daniel Ellsberg. All right. The government just didn't want
Starting point is 00:55:18 to prosecute, they wanted to throw the case out because it made him look bad. But Trump's not being held account under those theories of the law. He's been charged under a straightforward part of the statute that just says you can't still government documents to keep them in your fucking bathroom. All right. This is not that. It's not a political prosecution. I ended my fucking rant about the SBNLJAC.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Man, I personally had 50 on Mark bringing up G. Gordon Liddy. So I got to collect that. Yeah, dude. But the fascism in America, what's so scary about it is it's not like iron-fisted murdering people. And that would be scarier. And that might be what's coming. But it's how adaptable and good at PR it has become. And that thing you're talking about, Tucker Carlson made a career in a fuck ton of money doing it,
Starting point is 00:56:11 which was co-opting anything the left does or claims and applying it to your guy. and now they're just doing it trying to make Trump seem like some sort of victim. But it's already working. I mean, that's been working for years. That's what January 6 was about. Trump's been a victim even when he was the president. He somehow played the victim. Being able to be the bully while playing the victim is the most lucrative thing you can do in America right now.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Trump's going to keep doing it. He's great at it. And I'm sorry, it took me this show to decide it, but I think Trump's going to walk. He's going to force him to go to trial, and he's going to win the trial. And there's nothing we can fucking do about it. And there's nothing we can say even. It's like, did he get a fair trial? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Well, I don't really care if he walks. I just don't want to be president again. Completely agree. Yeah. Katie, coffee mug says no one thought the grand jury would indict either, just not fretting about that one juror. Yeah. We'll see what happened.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Before we get out of your, Mark, I just want to ask for a quick update from you, on his followers and how they treat him in fashion for January 6th and all that. I was led to believe that today would be the start of Civil War Part 2, right? Or another Civil War. What actually happened there before we leave? So I had a whole section that, just so the reviewers can know the background here, a whole section in the outline about the scene at the courthouse today. So there's a bunch of worries about violence because people have like January 6 in their head.
Starting point is 00:57:39 But January 6 was well orchestrated and planned, right? They had months to get ready for it. This indictment was handed down on Friday. Also, Trump doesn't have the juice that he used to. But people online were talking a lot of shit about, like, let me read a couple of quotes here. They were trying to find out the names of federal prosecutors and find information about the children and families on R the Donald. Someone said their children are fair game. I want blood.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Mago will make Waco look like a tea party. I'm buying more ammo. I want blood. I want fucking blood. But then the Donald, which is where January 6th was largely in 10. Yeah. The Donald went down on Sunday while they were trying to agitate and plan, and nobody knows who did it. Anonymous said they did it. But also congressmen were threatening violence. But again, nothing happened today. Right. And it wasn't worth a grape in a fruit fight. There was supposed to be, there were four busloads of people were supposed to come down for Orlando, but they only got enough people to barely fill two of them. Of the people that were there at the courthouse, it was about one third media, one third pro-tebrose.
Starting point is 00:58:45 protesters and one third vendors who were selling like a bunch of Trump merch and also there was a lady there selling mangoes. The magamango girl. I know her. There was one lady from Nicaragua who's hugely pro-Trump, who was walking around with an open cup of beer drinking and giving interviews and talking about a two-tiered system of justice in America while she was freely public drinking. There was a guy there walking around carrying a pig's head with an American flag stuck in the
Starting point is 00:59:12 mouth. No reason, no context. I know it's a real pig's head. had because it got discolored as the day went in the 90-degree heat. But even the one-third of the protesters are there. That looks so photoshopped. Right. We live in such a cartoon fucking country now that.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah. I don't know. I didn't understand why that is Trump, the pig, who got slaughtered unfairly? Is it the pig stand for cops? Why does it make a flag in his mouth? I don't know. But half the one-third protesters, they were counter-protesters, which I don't know why you'd go down there to yell about how Donald Trump's guilty.
Starting point is 00:59:44 when I was like somebody's going to sit off a fucking truck mom there was a lady there a wine mom having the time of her life and a shirt that said on Tifa
Starting point is 00:59:52 and I was like oh God bless this fucking gun she's touring she's like grateful dead she's like a deadhead but for Trump and diamonds all right
Starting point is 01:00:05 right yeah well maybe show that at least I hope she's at Bonneroo yeah well I found it I was pretty convinced it wouldn't be another January 6th, and that's at least something of relief that it went as somewhat comically, as you just described. Mark, we're out of time. Drew, tell everybody
Starting point is 01:00:22 like they should come see you and stuff, right? What do you want them to? Yeah, I will listen to. Yeah, thank you. I will be in Fort Collins, Denver and Boulder at the end of the month. That would be the 29, 30th, first, and second. You can go to Drew Morgancomedy.com to find tickets. Come see me, Denver. I put $70 on the nuggets. I won 700 because I did it. earlier in the year. Hell yeah. Go Joker. But yeah, just follow me there.
Starting point is 01:00:51 You can listen to Gravy Baby, the podcast I have with DJ and Carmen. If you're familiar with me, you know about that. If you're not, it's not political at all. We just talk about what makes us happy, which is mostly DJ's goat.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And then Drew Morg comedy on all the platforms. Follow me. And yeah, if you're in a good mood today, great. If this is the best day of your life, fucking go to therapy like he's the tom brady getting out of shit i'm just warning you guys buckle up right so on that encouraging note i'll also remind you uh tray crowder dot com to get tickets to see me weekly skews dot com slash more to sign up on the patreon get bonus
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