Weekly Skews - Weekly Skews 7/19/22 – Anti-Choice Madness

Episode Date: July 20, 2022

Tonight we get into how the right is handling the increasingly common stories regarding the horrible consequences of Roe being overturned. (Spoiler: they're handling it badly.) Join us. Support the show

Hey, everybody. Welcome back. Happy Skews Day to you. It is July 19th, 2020. I'm Trey Crowder, and that's Mark Aegee. What's up, Mark? What's up, Trey? You're supposed to be on vacation today, but it didn't work out, right? Tell the folks what happened. Yeah, we were going to go to Yosemite. And I was going to attempt to do the show from up there, the place we were staying just for the record. But it's, you know, on fire as it often is. Now, the park's like still opening all this stuff, but they say, you know, California would just be sitting on fire all the time on account of us killing the planet and all that. The park is still open and everything, but they say, you know, expect smoky conditions and all this. And I was already thinking, like, it feels like it kind of defeats the purpose going up there, see all this natural beauty if it's a, you know, ashfall hellscape or anything.

And I talked to somebody who knew a friend of theirs had just gone to Yosemite, like a couple of weeks, like the weekend before last. And they said they got up there and just turned around and came back because it was pretty bad, according to them. So I haven't checked back in on it since we went ahead and pulled the plug last week and decided not to go. So it may have gotten better. I don't know, but I doubt it. So anyway, so now on the last minute, change of plans because the boys are on summer break, we're going to Palm Springs, which seems like it may have been ill-advised because it's 130 degrees there, not literally.

It's like it's 110 or something. It's going to be insane. But, you know, pools and stuff will be all right. It's 100 degrees in England right now. Like a couple thousand people have died in a heat wave. Yeah, they're not built for it over there. It's like snow in the south, that kind of heat over there. They're just, you know, me and Corey just got back from there in so many places just don't even have air conditioning and stuff.

And when we were there, it was totally fine. You never missed it. But when it's 100 degrees, it's a problem. Maybe we could get more Americans on board for some climate change if they realize it's going to fuck up their vacation plans. Like, the wife's going to be mad you can't go to Yosemite. We got to, you got to get an electric car. Yeah.

I got to go to Comic Con for work tomorrow and Thursday. So I'm trying to figure out what combination of seven masks to wear. 18 different COVID variants at Nerd Mecca, going on the Nerd Hodge. Yeah. Have you been there before? I'm into all that nerd stuff. The stuff that goes down there seems super rad to me,

but I also don't like massive groups of people and being like packed in and stuff. And it's kind of, I don't know if I can handle it or not. I think it'd be too much. Yeah. Crowds have never hit for me. That's why I don't like,

music festivals and shit like that. It's like, it's not that I'm like, have a fear of crowds. I just don't like other motherfuckers in my way. Yeah. It's pure narcissism reasons. It's like, all you other people are here.

I want to be up front. Why are you doing? Yeah, this isn't fair. So a couple things before we get to show. Today, the House passed the respect for marriage act, which codifies gay marriage and interracial marriage. So do that in 2022. Right, because that feels necessary. But it does, though.

Everybody that voted for it was a Democrat. Some Republicans voted for it, too. Everybody that voted against it was a Republican, obviously. And the GEP seems to be so scared in this shoot. They might actually pass the Senate with 60 votes. But Dick Durbin said immediately that the Senate doesn't have time to pass it because they're so busy doing other shit. Right. What are you doing?

What are you ever doing? You know, yeah. Like, yeah, they, they just, none of them were ever talk about like all the things they're so busy doing. Because I feel like, it's like the one thing that unites both sides. It's like, y'all ain't doing shit, you know? Like, yeah, it's ridiculous. We all keep reading all this news about all this massive legislation. passing the Senate all the time, right?

Right. Famously. I love passing stuff. In other dumbass political news, this Republican state in order to fuck over electric cars, I guess North Carolina has some random

free public electrical vehicle chargers and has incentives for private businesses to get away. He wants to use taxpayer money to smash them up or run them over with a monster truck or whatever. if there aren't parallel free gas pumps put up next one, which the government, you can't be for good stuff if you're not for bad stuff equally. That's just science, right?

It's also, well, it's funny that it's like, I think he's wanted to allocate $50,000 of the budget to destroying gas, or excuse me, electric charging kiosk. and it's like I wonder because I used to be in government contracting like if they'll solicit for bids for that or something like if just an old boy with a sledgehammer can put in his bed try to commend as the lowest bidder get that sweet sweet you know destruction of property uh contract I love I love hitting shit with a hammer I do it for me right yeah yeah uh that's just purely psychotic shit and also like it's the thing about Elon Musk turned a Republican and doing this anti-electric car shit because it used to be just just like, well, we shouldn't interfere in the free market. If people are voting with their feet for gas, okay, right? Now it's like, because electric vehicles and solar and stuff are more profitable, now we have to sabotage them with the government. It's like, it's so, like, nihilistic and stupid. Anyway, that hasn't passed in anything, but I'm assuming a little stupid people.

I mean, yeah, nothing would surprise me now any of those stupid laws could pass, but it's like they, because he's a state-level congressman in North Carolina, I feel like their state level guys, especially in red states in the South and stuff, are constantly coming up with insane built. Because they need to have something to put their name on or whatever. Like, it's hard to make a name for yourself at that level. So you've got to come up with wild shit. It's just that sometimes world we live in, the wild shit ends up going the distance.

Yeah, we were talking about a lot of that wild shit today. Before we get serious, I want to talk about one of the funniest things I read this week. Some historian dug into the history of swimming. and apparently white people love doing the breaststroke, right? That was the favorite the favorite swing method

of like Europeans. They just thought it looked more dignified. Right. So like indigenous peoples in Africa and swam the fast way. Yeah. Over right.

Yeah. Yeah. Brow method or whatever. Yeah. So white people still, once they learned about the new better method of swimming, they still resisted it for hundreds of years

because they thought it looked uncouth. Yeah, like undignified. We're not going to flop around in the water, like some sort of rabbit mammals. We are, yeah, we're dignified people. Literally drowning themselves up a racism. Because they got to keep their heads above water when I do that, you know, and it's like, I can't have my powdered wig be soiled with this, you know, filthy aquatic situation.

Yeah, white people, man. What are you going to do? Just one more reason we don't hit the Olympics. There we go. We invented the Winter Olympics to have stuff to hit at, but not in the Super Olympics. We're just undignified to go fast in the water. Yeah.

All righty. Well, we do have producer Matt with us tonight. He's back from the fjords of Norway. I assume they got fuel. I believe that whole area up there is just lousy with fjords. So I hope he enjoyed the fjords. Either way, we're glad to have him. This is weekly skews.

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Sign up on there, get some more skews in your life. We surely would appreciate it. All right. As for the show tonight, it would seem that overturning Roe v. Wade is having some increasingly common and truly horrific, unintended consequences. Who could have possibly foreseen something like that? As for their part, the right is responding to it with the level of dignity and respect you would expect them to, which is to say, not hardly none.

The spin machine is whirling out of control right now. We'll talk about it a little later, but first, of course, the Daily Dumbass. Matt, graphic, please. Tonight's D.D., anyone who assumed that Herschel Walker's favorite game was football. No, no, no. Let's let the man himself correct us in this truly wild clip. My favorite game I used to play guy, I was rushing a lap.

People just said, what? I said, yeah, you know, people come to my house want to compete against me. You're not worthy. You don't work like I work. And unless you can put this gun in your head, you ain't fearless like me. People you think I was crazy. I would take a gun, put it in my head, snap it. Wouldn't even think about it.

Yeah. What about that, Mark? You think you're a real man? You think you can go toe to toe with Herschel Walker and shooting yourself in the face? You don't put the work in, Mark. You're not into shooting yourself in the face gym every day. I love these friends that has work. Like, working extra hard at Russian roulette is just the fastest way to die.

He got to, you got to, you got to, I was practicing Russian roulette is just committing suicide. I don't know what the hell he's talking about. For sure. But I can't, I mean, like, the thing with him is he's like clearly a nigh on pathological, if not outright pathological liar. Like, we know that at this point. Now, this, I don't know what the ups. Normally he's like, yeah, I was in the FBI and I, you know, do all kinds of cool shit. But this, I don't know if he's just like what he's going for.

But anyway, I'm just saying, he says all kinds of crazy shit. But of course, this one, I'm like, yeah, I totally believe that. But who the hell knows what this dude? The FBI thing, if the viewers don't know in that same speech, it was too long rambling and nonsensical for Daily Dumbass. But he tells us this long story about shit to kill him. And his reason was, because at the time, he was an FBI agent. And I don't know how to tell you guys this, but Herschel Walker was

never an FBI agent. No. And I don't know what. Yeah. I feel like he might not have passed the sort of like psychological background check, you know what I mean? Like to run it on him and he's like telling him his favorite game is Russian roulette. I feel like that's a pretty big, pretty big.

That's a deal breaker if you're trying to be in the FBI, I would assume. I think they also have a college degree requirement. And since he also lied about finishing college, I don't think he could pass that test either. Yeah, it's possible that the Republicans have nominated such clown candidates that the Democrats might actually hold on with the Senate. It goes between him and Dr. Oz and a few other bumbling fucking psychos. I mean, Herschel's still like a head by a couple points, but Jesus Christ. Yeah, well, I remember and look, you know, again, yeah, we could be wrong. They might both win.

Who knows. But like, I hear you on that. And I'm hopeful for that too. And I remember when, like, Roy Moore is running against Doug Jones, you know, who since lost his seat, obviously. But when that was happening and people were saying, it's like, yeah, but they're, you know, it takes this egregiously terrible of a candidate for a Democrat to actually have a chance in a place like this. And I was always just like, yeah, but like this is who they are now. Like increasingly, this is becoming the norm for them. You know what I mean?

So there's going to be more of them. And, you know, they're having that. We, America really did a speed run of an empire. We got to like the, the Roman decadence and Visigoth stage of empire in like 50 years. How long we, how long we've been in superpowers since then? Yeah, end World War II, right? Isn't that to generally accept a time frame? Yeah, I think when World War II started, we had the 17th largest navy in the world behind like Norway.

Another Norway reference. Sorry, Matt, Matt's arch enemies now. They stuck them there during an airline strike and gave him. This is a hippo violation? Mascot COVID. He's okay. He's hanging in there. He's a trooper, as always.

We're making it work because we're slave drivers over here. Norway, man, really went in on producer, Matt. What are you going to do? Sucks, because I gave you COVID and then made you come back to this health care hellscape. Been over all that good socialist medicine. Again, that's like fjords. I just assume they have it. Anyway, all right.

Our first honorable mention for Daily Dumbass, Donald Trump, for not. being able to pop a wheelie. Let's see this kind of wild interaction with Pete Buttigich and a Republican dipship by the name of Troy Nails. President Biden's mental state and for good reason. Sadly, he shakes hands with ghosts and imaginary people. He falls off bicycle. Even at the White House Easter celebration, the Easter bunny had to guide him back into his safe place. Cue cards that say sit here or end of speech, which you actually states, that is, if he stays awake. So my question for you is, sir, have you spoken with any other cabinet members about implementing the 25th amendment on President Biden? First of all, I'm glad to have a president who can ride a bicycle.

Yeah, after that, as you could probably guess, it just devolves into Buttigieg trying to answer his question and him refusing to allow him to do so by repeatedly screaming over him until his allotted time has run up so yeah you don't need to sit the rest of it if you're wondering what they're talking about um if you're not plugged into like right wing shit posting uh you might not even know about these stories but so the shake Biden's on his um you know a big middle east trip and uh he was finished giving a speech that gave him the Israeli presidential medal of freedom or whatever the version of that. And he was talking to an Israeli leader about where they're going to sit, and he's pointing to say which chair he should sit in, because, you know, obviously

that's been worked out by AIDS and stuff. Like, it's like, high-level negotiating of what chairs are which. So he's like, he's like pointing with his hand of which chair to go to, and they sniffed it out to make it look like he's trying to shake hands with nobody. It's a lot of, it's a lot of stuff like that. You don't have to, I think I'm on the record. My, my feelings towards Joe Biden are ambivalent at best. But you don't have to, like, wow. I. He's a step slower than he used to be because he's 80 years old. And that's fine. We voted for him knowing that. But yeah. Yeah. I also like it really good at propaganda. I like the congressional intern or whatever whose job it is to hold up the, you know, Easter bunny pictures and stuff behind him like that. She probably went to fucking Harvard or something like that, Georgetown. Georgetown law. And then she's back there holding up pictures of Biden with the.

Easter Bunny while this dude rambles on. In that hearing, they asked him, they asked Pete Buttigieg just to describe American one word. He just sat home. And he said, well, last week, President Biden said, I want to describe American one word. And there was a string of like 43 letters or condiments. He tried to get Joe Biden. Pete Buttigis just to sound it out. And the intern really looks like it's like, oh, God, it should have worked at Popeyes.

This is my course. Yeah, right. Yeah. I'm sure you have to feel that at least sometimes. But I just don't like, I know this is what always happened. You know, it's always like, what about Trump and everything? But, you know, yeah, Trump can't ride a bicycle. But also, like, you know, he famously did a bunch of dumb shit all the time.

You know what I mean? That didn't have to be fabricated. It's just, I don't know, it's wild bitching about the mental capacity of this president when, you know, your implied preferred replacement is the dude who still talks about acing the dementia exam he took or you know whatever that was camera woman man room light killed it if this bicycle thing had happened when trump was in office like he would have done a photo off the next day where he would have tried to jump like use a ramp to jump a jump a kitty pool or something and then somebody would have come up with footage where he zoomed out and it had

training wheels on both the front and the back and then he would have called it fake news yeah but i guess we're engaging in fake news right now too because uh actually on our next Honorable mention here, turns out Mark Trump is the picture of physical fitness and American excellent, at least according to this guy. Ronnie Jackson, baby. Back at it again. Former White House doctor. Obama and Trump. Now, you're famous for extolling the health virtues of Donald Trump. You did so publicly. And a lot of people are like, oh, man, you're overdoing it.

But actually, let's face it, he is a very unique specimen. I mean, anybody can see that. 76 years old. He has the energy of a 16-year-old. I don't think you are, do me favor. Tell us about his health, if you don't mind. No, he's in great health. And people wonder, like, why is he so healthy? Because, you know, he's famously doesn't have a really great diet and he doesn't exercise much, you know, than playing golf and whatnot. But you've got to look at the, you know, his whole life. I mean, throughout his life, he never drank, he never smoked. He lived a pretty healthy life overall compared to a lot of folks. And so I think that he's reaping the rewards of a healthy life early on. And he was in great shape. I mean, I put him on the treadmill, did a cardiac

stress test on him. He knocked it out of the water. I mean, he was in the top 10% of everyone in his age. I mean, he did extremely well in his cardiac stress test. And he just, you know, he's in great health, be honest. This is North Korea State media shit. I like, like, right. Yeah, they, you know, they do, well, they do, like, they're, like, obsessed with acting like he's a, you know, physical specimen, despite every, you know, it's so obviously to the, all you have to do is look at him and tell that that's not true, but that, you know, they, they paint pictures of him and shit, like, stiff arming linebackers at the goal line to score the game-winning touchdown or, like, with abs, like, looking like Rambo with Donald Trump's head. Like, they, they love doing that shit. It's just like, it's their whole thing. thing with manliness and masculinity, that obsession they have, you know, with like being real men. So it's like their God emperor, he has to be the paragon of physical excellence.

You know what I'm saying? So they just roll with it despite the fact that he's, you know, a lump of old Play-Doh, orange Play-Doh. I like the line where he says, like, has the energy of a 16-year-old. It's like, yeah, because he's famously hooked on Adderall and a bunch of European diet pills. Like, like, literally, in the drawer. but also like so the kaira there is ronnie jackson wrote a book and so i looked up what his book is um and the synopsis his own synopsis of his book the whole book is about how healthy and hard

working don't trump is and how he watched him up close it's just it's just a whole book about how don't trump has abs and so here's from the book excerpt on the amazon page i would talk to the president before the chief of staff even saw the president in the morning i walked into work and he and i was already in the oval office talking to president trump it was rarely medical to her be honest with you. It was whatever going on in the news. I mean, the first person to see in the morning, the president was completing tasks two to three hours for anybody else showed up in the West Wing to work. Yeah, we saw the tweets, bro. We saw the 3M tweets. Again, Adderall. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, you can make money just telling

people that Trump. Yeah, as an ass kicker. I know. That's what I was saying. It's like this dude's whole thing seems to be talking about how much of a badass Donald Trump is. Like, that's this guy's career is doing that. I mean, he's a fucking congressman now, correct? Yeah, but that's sort of what it comes down to. Let's round out the Daily Dumbus segment with a delightful little slip of the tongue from Sean Hannity, please. Yeah, it's just fun.

No big tech. It's just fun, yeah. All right, as summer now hitting America, swimmers hit the beach, but this year, things are getting more dangerous than usual. There's been five separate chartered. Shark attack. I had a buddy in college. They called him Matt. Oh, shard attack. That's not a bad college nickname, honestly. I don't know where the shark panic comes from. I didn't know that. I had no idea. When you put that clip in there and I watched this, I was like, I was completely unaware we were still talking about shark attacks. I thought that was like started after Jaws and they ram with it every now and then.

But then everybody just sort of gave up. Every now, then a surfer gets their arm bitten off or whatever. And so it gets some more legs, no pun intended, the shark panic. But, yeah, I didn't realize that was still a thing. Me neither. Yeah, no, look, guys, we're largely safe from shark attacks, okay? We murder way more of them than they do us. And it's, you know, it's a shame.

People cut their fins off just to make soup that don't even need the fan in it and such as that. they are comparatively speaking eating very very few beachgoers so leave the sharks alone yeah they got even up the odds eat a couple hundred thousand more of us than we can call it even right all right well let's get into it what do you think mark yeah all right so uh this news came out late last week uh some proof of a thing everyone had already been talking about for for a little bit um so there was an arrest made in the sexual assault of that 10 year old who got a, got an abort, had to travel to Indiana for an abortion. And I didn't know before that, but it had become a right-wing talking point that the whole thing was made up.

And I don't know why they have to say it's made up, because this is obviously a consequence of, you know, banning abortion without rape exceptions. So why they would go to the map saying that this couldn't possibly happen was very bizarre to me. But I guess we're going to wait. Well, wait, what do you, what do you make? Because I feel like you just kind of answered your own question, didn't you? Like, that's what, that's why their knee-jerk reaction was just to say that, oh, that's bullshit.

It's got to be bullshit. It can't be true because that type of thing doesn't have. What we are so fervently in favor of does not lead to situations like this. It can't. That's why this can't be true is sort of how I assumed, you know, how they immediately landed on that. And just fake news in general, just the, you know, the impetus for fake news to be a thing. You know, they say all kinds of shit isn't true. it is all the time. But this is a particularly heinous example of it, for sure, given the subject

matter. Yeah. I mean, it went, it was all over the place. I don't know how I'd missed it, but like, I think, go to the beginning, I think we all heard the anecdote about the pretty horrific anecdote about the 10-year-old growing in Ohio who was sexually assaulted, traveled to any after an abortion. Um, and people would, this became, we're going to get into this, but like, we should not be talking about this because this girl's trauma was bad enough without the whole world trying to figure out who she is. I haven't looked, but I bet her actual identity is already public on the internet somewhere. And that's going to lead to horrific consequences for the rest of her life,

because she's an addition to all the suffering, she's going to have to go through. And I would imagine that she'd get death threats if in when they reached a tipping point where a lot of people knew her name. But people sort of thrown out wild bullshit. Like the Washington Post columnist said, well, actually only were 52 abortions in 2020 to all the children younger than 15. Oh, is that all? Yeah.

Like, what the fuck? Right. One a week. And it's been like it's like a trivial number that we shouldn't worry about the law affecting. And I can't write a lot of them. And what you said, you said that for the record, that's just Ohio, right? Yeah. Like just the state of Ohio had 52 abortions for people 15 years or younger in 2020.

And yeah, but they were calling it. It's like, listen, this type of thing's very rare. There are only 52 of them in 2020. And like you said, that's one a week. And it's just, you know, it's not, that's not a trivial amount of abortions on children in your state. And those numbers from 2020 when everybody was, you know, isolating and having contact, including sexual contact, a way fewer people. And just to point out the obvious here, kids here on the 15 can't accept the sex definitionally. So those are all right.

Yeah. Automatically, all of those are instances of, of. Right, but statutory, right, at the very least. Yeah, I mean, certainly some of those were with people their own age. Right, yeah, two 14-year-olds or whatever, yeah, but, yeah. But anyway, it's not like a minor problem. And there was, because those numbers that was from 2020, there was, the numbers were higher in 2016 through 2019. So we're talking at least one kid or rape, one kid a week being forced to carry a period to their term.

The definition of all those are rapes. And, but this is just an anecdote, right? And you can come with an anecdote to prove anything. but we're going to be doing a lot of argument by anecdote because these laws, everybody's body's different, everyone's situation's different, and having a blanket law with all these people's going to result in a bunch of weird shit happening to individuals that everyone is going to be really frustrated by. Talking about not knowing we shouldn't know about this girl's story. When people talk about Roe being a privacy case, this is sort of what I think a part of it that goes under talked about is like you're going to be forced to litigate your sex life in court and also therefore the newspaper. paper because you're going to prove if you have a miscarriage if some prosecutor wants to take it to court you have to prove that you wanted the baby and lost a back accident right which is

nobody's fucking yours and miscarriage is sucked i was about to say yeah it's already one of the worst moments of somebody's life you know what i mean like and then to add that extra element of like needless humiliation and an invasion of privacy you know just for this uh bullshit law and like you were saying everybody's situations there's so many different possible circumstances that are, you know, uncommon in their specificity that could necessitate somebody getting an abortion that are just not thought or cared about by the anti-choice crowd. You know what I mean?

Like that just like, no, abortion is killing babies. You can't have that. And that's where we're staying. That's all there is. And they don't consider any of these myriad other, you know, possible scenarios. and they're now playing out in the real world because, like, they're real things that really happen to real people, you know. Talking about litigating or sex allows in court.

I read an interview today with a law professor who's also like an abortion law and rights historian, and she was talking about how the right termed against rape exceptions. And the basic reason they did this, and they don't say it out loud very often, but they think if you create a rape exception, then all those sluts are just going to say they were raped so they can get an abortion, right? Which is a stupid and horrific reason to not have a rape exception,

but they are correct in the sense that their legal regime creates an incentive structure to lie by being sexually assaulted, which is the nightmare scenario that all these men's rights students talk about all the time, which isn't realistic because when you say, oh, like, Amber Hurd made of abuse to get rich, it doesn't work that way. It ruins your life to accuse a part of it.

awful guy of, uh, of, uh, of, uh, bad behavior. But like, this is an scenario, which there is an incentive structure. I must say anyone would do it because you'd have to be, you know, in order to try to ruin another guy's life to, you know, it's like, it's too awful to fucking talk about. But like, right. These guys are all, these people are also gross and they don't, they don't understand, they don't understand the forces they're fucking with. Not just women's going to, I thought on the, just on that note about the, you know, them, uh, turning against an exception for rape. I saw in one of the articles we had in the outline, I was reading over it. And this is just what I assume most of their, you know, like general talking point on the matter was, was this guy.

And sorry if you're going to get to this specific quote later, but a very hardcore anti-choice advocate said that you shouldn't, you know, you shouldn't punish a child for the sins of their father or something like that, meaning like the baby still deserves to be born regardless of the circumstances. So just because, you know, someone was raped, that's not this baby's fault. And, of course, I'm saying, like, that's how they justify it, even when you're talking about a fucking 10-year-old or whatever, which, of course, I think is fucking ridiculous. But I hadn't even really considered the implication you just brought up. But, yeah, it's just the whole thing is just really upsetting. I think you're talking about the quote from Jim Bop, right, who's a national right to life official. and it was one of his quotes was she would have had the baby and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape

we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child he's talking about a 10 year old I know about say he said like many women who've had a baby as a result of it's like she's she's not a woman we're not talking about a woman we're talking about a fucking child I've got a 10 year old he's a boy but still

he's a fucking kid a 10 year old is a child so it's absurd to compare her to win and then also but like just the idea like listen we'd hope that she would you know we believe she would come around and see the the beauty in her circumstances or whatever the fuck he's basically trying to say and it's like a 10 year old who was it's just i don't understand this but yeah fucking jim bop are we gonna talk more about jim bop later yeah let's go ahead let's go ahead i'll explain who he is now because he's he's really he's a good character in this because he's kind of edifying for

example, that abortion writes a story. I was talking about it was talking about the long game played by the anti-choice for slash pro-life movement. She's separated into buckets. She got the zealots who were large at the beginning were just purely Catholics. And then you have the pragmatics. And she put Jim Bob in the pragmatic category. These are the people who are open to stuff like rape exceptions, right? And in the guys that passed in law because pretty much everyone agrees that people that are molested by their dads or stepdad or grandfathers or or whatever, people that are sexually assaulted should not be forced to carry that baby to turn, right? So Jim Bob, this is full mask off fascist for him because he used to be the guy arguing full rape exceptions,

but he would turn out he was pretending the whole time. The thing about Jim Bob, he's a very powerful figure in conservative circles. He's a lawyer. He's a former state attorney general. He, a study conducted in 2014 should that Bob was one of a comparatively small number of lawyers, most likely to have their cases heard by the Supreme Court. So, like, he gets a leg up in big level. court cases.

He's been repeatedly named one of the hundred most influential lawyers in the United States by the National Law Journal. And yeah, he did try to overthrow the election. He's also the brains behind Citizens United, which is the reason the money is free flowing into politics. I think the number I saw was like billionaire spent 32 million on an election in an election cycle before Citizens United and last year they spent like $1.2 billion.

So like one of the reasons our politics has gone completely insane is because they're completely controlled by four or five fucking psychos who want to turn the world into their own vision. We're talking about just like a handful of people like the Mercer's and Peter Thiel. So anyway, this guy gets by vote for one of the most underrated, most destructive Americans

of the 20th, 2020s. Yeah. And this is dumb, I know. But it's upsetting to me and yet also feel strangely appropriate that our society in this country is being undone, in part by a guy

whose name sounds like a 50s dance, you know what I mean? It's like, hey, Daddy O's, you want to hit the Jim Bop with your main squeeze, head onto the dance floor right now, you know. And if not, put an egg in your shoe and beat it. Like, it's just, I don't know. Just the whimsy of the name Jim Bop coupled with the, you know, the horror of the reality and the evil of his actions is just like it just seems to fit the current American narrative in a depressing way. Yeah, getting back to how we're going to be arguing by anecdote. You're going to read story after story like this shit. But here's one from the other day. Because, again, everybody's body's different, everybody's situation's different, trying to have a blanket loss to the shit like this. There are people who can't have, like, who got a rheumatologist for, like, blood and bone disorders,

who can't get their medication because those medications are also used to manage miscarriages and are part of an abortion cocktail. And it's like, so, like, you're talking about people who aren't even remotely pregnant, can't get the drugs they need to stay alive and not live in pain because of these stupid laws. From a story about a Texas woman who'd started a miscarrier, but her doctors couldn't perform immediate abortion because the fetus still out

a heartbeat. She lost liters and liters of blood. They didn't put her in a breather machine as a result. This is a woman who wanted her kid, who was going through a painful miscarriage, and they made it more painful because they have to wait for her to almost die. They sent her home and told her she could come back and get the procedure when she had to wear a diaper

and when she had to change it more than once an hour because it was full of blood, then she could have the procedure. she needed. They all knew they're going to give her eventually input. That's just, yeah, it's fucking, I mean, that's the type of shit you hear that coupled with that, you know, the first anecdote about the 10 year old and everything

was just like, I genuinely don't understand how you hear things like this and not get that you're on the wrong side of this particular thing. You know, if you're okay with that, then I don't understand you as a person. But of course, you know, in part what they do is they just

deflect and say, well, that and all, that's all bullshit. or whatever. Oh, they're making it up. It ain't all that bad. You know, that's one way they sort of try to deal with it, I guess. And many of them just don't give a fuck. But, yeah, it's wild. Yeah, it's only 52.

It's only 52, Tray. Before we get into this whole story, backstory, I want you to see how fast Fox News pivoted off this, like, from the 10-year-old girl is lying, or people lie about this 10-year-old girl existing, or both, actually, this whole both lies, and to what the news story is, because this is neck-breaking speed. These are back-to-back days in these stories. We do not have all of those answers at the moment, but right now it looks specious. Well, it also was repeated by President Biden.

Correct. And so that is another question here. So we'll continue to watch for this as well. An update from a story we brought to you last night. A man in Ohio has been charged with rape in the case of a 10-year-old girl who traveled to Indiana to terminate her pregnancy. Police erected Gerson Fuentes Tuesday after he admitted to raping the child on two different occasions. Ice confirming to Fox that Fuentes is in the country unlawfully. Fuck you. There it is. There it is. You know, as soon as that came up, they were fucking

high-fiving and she was like, oh, thank God for that. Okay, we got that. We're going to run with that. We're on agreement, right? We're running with that, I guess. This is an immigration issue, Mark. That's what this really is. If Biden didn't have the borders fucking open and everything, then, you know, we wouldn't have to be talking about none of this. Forget the abortion thing. Like, it's the most, it's the most obvious and transparent pivot you could ever imagine them happening or them performing. Not for nothing. I think everybody already knows this, but undocumented immigrants are one of the least crime-committing populations for fairly obvious reasons. You want to start a radar on.

Yeah, right. Not trying to draw attention to themselves. Yeah. Anyway, what I'm talking is immigration status because it doesn't fucking matter. There's going to be scumbags and creeps in every population in general. general and using the skin color in this case is just evil and gross. And what had happened is the Ohio's Attorney General have put on a bunch of news saying he didn't think of it was real because he hadn't seen the case.

There have been, specifically because there had been no DNA testing report to the state lab. Now, that guy had already been arrested and confessed. So why would you do in the DNA test to put him in double jail? And also the attorney general of the state wouldn't be engaged in like district level prosecutions. There'd be no reason for going. It was bullshitting from the fucking beginning. And the worst part of this is the Washington Post did a fact check where they questioned the story. And I just want to say, fuck Glenn Kessler.

When he was called out for it, he's like, well, actually, I have that family numbers raped. So I don't know what they're supposed to me. We're going to be talking a lot about fuck the Washington Post. We've been talking about Megan McArdle in a second because she sucks. So the order of events here are, let's talk about the Indiana doctor for a second. The story came from a doctor in Indiana who did the procedure. she talks about giving the procedure she gets called a liar

the spin machine goes into overdraft the guy gets arrested the doctor gets called a criminal for not reporting it in the right fashion which she actually already had the spin machine doubles down and calling the doctor a monster

and an activist she's not an activist for being an expert in her field this is like they do this with climate scientists too it's like all your environmental activists no I just know the seas are going to be boiling

in a fucking it's also like am I wrong and it's like it's implying they're implying that she also shouldn't have done it? Like, it's, the, it's, the implication is that the, the 10-year-old should have, you know, should have been forced to carry the baby. This doctor shouldn't have done that and they're trying to come after her for it.

Yeah. So, Indiana's attorney general, went on, I think, the Sunday shows and was saying that she basically said that she had violated HIPAA law by talking about the girl's case. That's not true. Then he said she may have violated state law by not reporting the sexual assault. Also, you've got to, I guess you've got to follow specific paperwork for, when you do an abortion procedure and an underage girl

and they said she hadn't done that what she had so she's, by the way, she filed a lawsuit today or escalated towards following a lawsuit against the Attorney General for defamation. I hope she fucking wins

and takes his house. So important little caveat here. We only know the actual facts this case because a local news reporter in Ohio went to saw it on the docket the guy was getting arraigned and went and sat in the courtroom and heard the details of the case that confirmed

this was the case, the girl that went to Indiana from the procedure. So while local newspapers are shutting down, we're not going to have actual facts anymore. It's been nothing but national level arguments about shit we don't know is happening. So that that part scares me, but to support your local newspaper because if you want a democracy to keep going, we got to have actual information. So they're tearing us apart because the only source in the story was the doctor who done the procedure. That's what more reason they're questioning. But like, think for a minute why they're only one source talking about this story.

The girl's not going to go on the record. Now they're her parents. They want to keep their identity secret for fairly obvious reasons. The government protects the names of victims of sexual assault. The arrest hadn't been made yet. The cops weren't talking. So, like, Quinn Kester question, yeah. But also, I mean, is the doctor who performs a procedure not a, you know,

that's not a valid enough source in a situation like this, in a story like this? Like, it's a first-hand account from a, you know, expert and, you know. witness on the matter, isn't it? I don't know. I'm not a journalist. He was. You tell me. Yeah, to take it back to my journalism ethics classes, you would as many sources as possible to give you to confirm a story. Like, there's a famous man to

go. Well, Michael Hesikoff was chased and Lewinsky Blitzky Clinton's sex scandal story. Somebody walked by his desk and asked him what he was doing on the phone. He said, I'm trying to second source a blowjob. Not an easy thing to do, but like you can't really go to print with big level allegations with very thin sourcing. But again, these types

of sources, stories, these are the sources you're going to get because doctors are afraid to speak up in general, even if there multiple doctors were in this case, because this woman is getting death threats, and it's not the first time. She's been getting dead threats before. And also, the Attorney General was threatened to prosecute her. So a bunch of people aren't going to be talking on the record about this shit. By the way, the Ohio Attorney General, he started fucking lied. We talked about he lied about the law and what he knew when and where. He was trying to say that she shouldn't have had to Indianapolis because Ohio's law would have had an exception

for a case like this. It absolutely doesn't. You go read the plain text of the law. It does not. Only has exceptions for the life of the mother. They're trying to say, well, a 10-year-old giving birth is dangerous. But again, this is the environment where doctors are letting women almost bleed out for doing procedures because they're scared of getting arrested.

He's also, he takes a lot of pride and pro-life stuff. He, after Roe v. He was overturned. He successfully followed emotion-dissolving injunction in Ohio's six-week abortion ban. and tweeted out celebratorily that the Harvey bill is now the law. Anyway, his son and daughter-in-law publicly criticizes his actions and messages on Facebook in late June. His daughter-in-law said, The lack of pro-choice is blatantly against what this country says and his banners and documents.

The land of the free doesn't seem so free right now. So I love this guy's getting roasted by us on the family. But I still can't believe how hard it went on this. Jim Jordan, Congressman Jim Jordan to Ohio, and this is all happening in his home state, went on Twitter to call the 10-year-old victim a fucking liar. He later deleted after the arrest.

But these people are all lying because they don't want people to blame them for the inevitable consequences of their policies. At the beginning of the story. These are awful and popular for fairly obvious reasons. Everyone's listened to this being like, why doesn't everyone agree with this? Everyone does fucking agree with this.

Or most people anyway, only true psychos want a 10-year-old to carry a product of rape to term and have to raise it the rest of their life. This is a kid who wouldn't miss out on like, you know, school dances, first loves, going to college. Like, it's like, fuck, you, like, you consigning this kid to a life of misery for a clump of cells. And also, to say something is very obvious, because everybody wants doctors to be, like, super brave here. But, like, you don't go to medical school, so you can go straight to prison.

So I'm sure some doctors are going to be resistant, stuff. But, like, you can't expect people to just risk going to jail and leaving their family's fatherless, it's, it's, it's right. Losing their licenses, probably. I'll be getting sued all kinds. I mean, death threats and shit too, you know, I mean,

like, yeah, I mean, that shit's easy to say, but I mean, I definitely, you know, understand it.

They got, it's just a shitty circumstance for them. But the people, they immediately go into, like, this is just a wild story to immediately, you know,

go straight to, oh, that's clearly made up bullshit. To me, like, given the subject matter of it, I, I just feel like you'd want to take

even more care than usual to not, you know, say some to trivialize it or say some or, you know, put it in a, you know, act like it's not true when it could be true and is true. It's just, I don't know. Well, they're trying to say, they're trying to say that the laws are clearly written and people can get actual medical care that an ectopic president's pregnancy doesn't count and you should be able to get a miscarriage cleaned out, all this stuff, but the laws aren't written that way. They're written incredibly vaguely and doctors are taking advice from their

lawyers in the hospital's general counsels. And if you write laws intended to force doctors to arrow on the side of not aborting, where there's any question at all, you get medical errors of not aborting. It's baked in. They're not going to guess when their freedom's at stake. That's exactly what happened. Here's a Washington Post headline. Confusion post-rose spurs delays, denials for some lifesaving pregnancy care. And these are all the liars, right?

But there are psychos among us who don't care enough to bother lying. These are the true zealots. The Idaho Republican Party just had their convention, and they debated whether or not to have a life of the mother exception, and they decided not to. The party that governs Idaho and their campaign platform is stating they will remove a life of the mother exception from their abortion law. They're going to sentence women to death if they're in the middle of having dangerous miscarriages. Idaho, I believe, was also one of the ones we showed a clip from their statehouse when they were debating something on the floor related to the. this where a Democratic state congressman asked them to clarify that under their law, it would be possible for the family of a rapist to sue the rape victim.

And they said, yes, it was. So that was also in Idaho, I believe, if memory serves. Also, I just want to say real quick, Matt, producer Matt, if you want to start, you know, putting up some comments and stuff for people about this, I know we haven't been getting the comments recently, but we'll keep talking about it, but you can hit us with some comments and stuff there might. And if you miss a couple of string grabs or something, that's okay. Don't worry about that. Anyway, go ahead, Mark. I overprep the show. I'll just run through this real quick.

There's a couple things happened in Congress last week. A couple of people were testifying in front of Congress, Josh Hawley's wife, who's a right-to-life activists. And that one we talked about before, who was ahead of a pro-level organization. She's the one who said that fetuses were used, being tossed into power plant stoves, to power washing in D.C. That went away. Yeah. They both, they both pull the same. move in a congressional hearings this week where they were asked about life-saving medical care that was being forbidden by these laws, and they've tried to define those as non-abortion. They said the 10-year-old Ohio kid getting her procedure does not count as abortion.

They're, like, they're a well-ean change in the language. Abortion is a definition of a medical procedure. It's not a political issue until you make it one. So, like, she's trying to say, like, chemotherapy isn't chemotherapy if you get it for a different kind of cancer. And that's absolute bullshit. And the other woman was asked about ectopic presidency. can you get a terminated ectopic pregnancy pregnancy and she said that's not an abortion like yes it is a fucking abortion ask a doctor right here and said it yeah it's like they're trying

to be like no listen we're only opposed to the bad kind you know the good kind is fine even though nothing about the way our laws are written or codified would give you the reason to think that we're just saying of course we're not monsters we're okay with that but that's we don't like abortion that's uh that's something else that's awesome We don't know what that is called, but it's not abortion because it doesn't suit the narrative and also makes me look like a monster if I admit that it is, so I'm just going to not do so. Right, but that's like, but it goes at the root thing is like, my abortion is justified, but those sluts shouldn't be able to get theirs, right?

It's sort of like the blanket stape and national version of that. But also, you can't claim ectopic pregnancies don't end an abortion when Catholic hospitals limit doctors' abilities to treat those cases because they claim that it's abortion. picking a fucking thing, right? Yeah, yeah. There's not even a narrative through line here. So getting to the end of this. Like we said, Indiana's going after the doctor,

people have threatened to kill her. We talked about she'd been threatened before. She got, the FBI alerted her last year that her kids were subject to kidnapping threats. She stopped traveling to South Bend to do procedures because she had like a remote clinic there. And this is probably the craziest thing. that I saw, there's a proposed bill in North Carolina that would be a constitutional amendment

to establish a fetus as a living person and includes a carve-out that says if you kill someone who's about to perform an abortion or facilitating the abortion, that would basically be considered self-defense because you defend the life of another. So you'll be able to legally murder abortion doctors in North Carolina if this becomes a constitutional amendment. Well, I tell you what, the other North Carolina congressman that came up with the electric vehicle charging post thing he's probably kicking himself after there's like his you know his asshole buddy on the other you know in the republican state house comes up with no it's okay to murder pregnant women if they want an abortion you know he's like god damn it why did i go with the electric

car thing yeah right exactly now he's gonna get all the headlines for being the crazy asshole around here that's supposed to be my job no that's fucking insane dude i mean that just they could just show up to abortion clinics and stuff and just execute people, like with a law like that. Everybody. You do a mass shooting. You do a legal mass shooting. It's so crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I can't wrap my mind. I saw lawyers debating online about whether whether you'd be able to kill the mother to stop an abortion, and they couldn't figure it out. So if your pregnant girlfriend tells you she's getting abortion and you murder her to stop the abortion, might be a viable self-defense claim in North Carolina starting next year.

Jesus Christ. Mary Beth Wells Allen on Facebook says America has the highest maternal mortality of any industrialized country. So, you know, this will help that, obviously. All this shit. They saw that and are like, well, we've got to get that. We got to shit that stat up a little bit further. I always wonder why things could.

We have some, America has so much resources to make things better. in so many ways. And we just, like, they just tell us America's number one. And we just say, yeah, I guess they can't do any better. And then we just keep doing it the way between it. Right. It's like, yeah, babies don't die as much. Babies and moms don't die as much in other countries.

And if we wanted to actually care about life. Yeah. Kim Avery, Kim Avery on Facebook says, allow women to have abortions at VA hospitals. Yeah, I saw that people want to abide to do stronger executive orders. He passed one. There was like pretty much kitchen sink,

about freedom to travel and all that stuff. But like, I didn't realize that freedom of travel isn't in the Constitution anywhere. So, like, they could, the Supreme Court could just say, you need a passport to go from North Carolina to Virginia. So the idea that Biden, because the VA is like an executive branch agency, so he could dictate that,

a VA hospital in any state could be. I guess they're saying because it's federal property that state laws wouldn't apply, but I'm not sure. I know there was a proposal to do it on Native reservations. And all that stuff seems like, obviously a Hail Mary situation, but I don't think making the legal regime more confusing is going to help. I don't know.

I mean, we're talking about trying to save people's lives here, so obviously do everything you can't. Stephanie Hinton Sells says, my Republican ex-friend says she's pro-choice, but it should be up to the state. Same argument they had for slavery. I'm losing it over this insanity. Yeah, well, you know, again, the week that the very,

week that SCOTUS overturned Roe, that same week they had that gun control case where they were like, listen, states can't just be allowed to decide things like this. There's about the state of New York. And then they turned around with Roe and were like, this is for the states to decide. So I mean, yeah, they're not even pretending to be logically consistent or anything where that's concerned. Yeah. And also, like, they're not going to leave it to the states because, like, there's like 180 sponsors or something in the House right now. Republicans sponsors for national heartbeat bill. So the goal here is to not leave it to the states, have a national law outlaw and abortion. Matt Knight says I don't understand how Republican women don't stand up to this. I mean, look, they've had, you know, seemingly obvious reasons to oppose or be opposed to, you know, the Republican Party line for a long time, in my opinion. and they just, you know, I don't know. I mean, a lot of, there's a lot of hardcore anti-choice, you know, women in this game. Obviously, I mean, fucking Amy Coney Barrett, the Josh Holly's wife, the other lady,

you were talking about to testify before Congress this week. Like, you know, they're out there in full force too. And I agree. But it's like Mark was saying. They're like, yeah, why, you know, I don't, me and my other good women friends don't have to worry about this. this is a nasty women issue, you know, how it works in their head, I'm assuming. There's some hardcore, true believers, but also there are just people that don't think it will affect them or their kids. I think they're being naive, but they're also like some deep weirdos.

I was at my buddy's wedding a few years back. I was back on the East Coast. And one of his college buddies is married to a woman who happens to be the director of a pro-life organization. And she'd never met my wife before, walked straight up to her, and immediately asked, or what birth control method my wife and I is. That's a hell of an icebreaker right there. It's like a liberal walking up

somebody at a wedding and be like, so, butt stuff, yeah, no? Like, where are you guys at on? Honestly, that's a much more interesting conversation with me. Yeah, no, I'm cooler with that one too for obvious reasons. But yeah, it's just a wild line to cross right out the gate upon meeting somebody.

So there's one of those people who converted to Catholic. autism as adults and went really hardcore into it, right? Like, like trad-calf kind of shit. And so they have, they have a bunch of kids. She was trying to pitch my wife on the, um, the utility of the rhythm method. And she goes, wait, how many kids do you have? And she goes, I mean, she's like, rhythm method.

It really works. It really works. Never fails. And my wife goes, how many kids do you have? She goes, seven. Like, okay. Maybe that's what she meant. Maybe she was like, yeah, you know, it really works.

It gets the babies going. When Michael W. says, 10-year-old must carry a full term. Can we say Handmaid's Tale? Yeah, ever more dystopian around these parts for sure. Kim Avery also says, Handmaid's Tale is not a documentary. Yeah, the shit is rough. But also, as we just alluded to you, you were saying, the Catholic, you know, Matt Knight had said, I don't understand why more Republican women are not okay with this or whatever.

You know what I mean. And it's just, I mean, so much of it is also God, man, and religion, like, you know, most, any kind of like hardcore Christian. I know there's, you know, there's progressive Christians and stuff, but you know what I mean. Like any kind of hardliner remotely is going to have this take on it probably because that's what the Lord says, they believe. I've told this before I think, but I met a guy, a liberal dude out here in L.A., we were talking about it, and he's a Hispanic guy. and he said his parents didn't even like Donald Trump, but they voted for him. And he said it was 100% entirely because of abortion. Like they're single-issue voters, and that's the one.

Abortion has to be illegal. A lot of Christians feel that way, evidently, men and women. So there you go. I mean, if you actually fully believe that life begins at first, they're trying to pass laws to say life begins at fertilization, which is completely a scientific, because it hasn't even implanted. And you might, it doesn't matter. But if you really believe that, then there is a genocide happening every day, all day, every day. So I can understand if you actually believe that, why you absolutely, you have to put a stop to it at any cost, including women dying, because you're still saving lives in aggregate. I just think that's really stupid and destructive.

For a whole host of reasons, we just spent the whole show talking about. But like, I think they're talking about the Republican women thing. I'm sure they're going to lose votes over this. the question becomes to what extent voting affects anything anymore because certainly the races that aren't gerrymandered like governor and president

it'll help but state legislatures where a lot of this stuff is happening they're jerrymandered all the shit right and between the gerrymandering and just the way the sort of whole system is set up within the Senate and everything anyway this is a minority ideology that has such a stranglehold

on American society because of the way of our political system works. Like, more people are opposed to all of this shit across the board, but they have an outsized amount of power, but sort of related, you said, you know, voting, how much is it matter or whatnot? On a somewhat related note, Natalie Nichols, there she is, longtime listener and commenter, says if Trump runs and loses the primary, do you think he would run as an independent? No, I don't think so. Because he definitely lose that. He doesn't like losing and I don't think you'll lose the primary like so they're they're making a big hay of like most primary voters large you would like reject trump in a poll but he was still leading by a mile

it was like because it's like they put they pulled 10 different people and he's getting like 20 almost 30 percent but that's how he went last time we had like 30 percent in the republican primary last time he became president so like brad brad shaw crew says if trump runs there will be no primary he'll just be the nominee i mean yeah i don't i agree with both y'all and that i don't think he'll lose the primary either if he runs, unfortunately. I think DeSantis will definitely try. Because the donors already turned to him.

I think DeSantis will run. And I think you'll see some never Trump candidate get like 2%. Yeah. Going to be fun. 2024. Can't wait. But hell, we've got to get through the rest of this year. And then, 23, who knows what fresh hails those will hold for us either

before we even get to 2024. So, yeah. Anyway, Jesus Christ, God damn. All right, so, yeah, I remind you again, we're just about out of time. Thank you for all the lovely comments. Thank you for being here. If you want to see me live doing stand-up, go to traycrouter.com. If you want to support the show and get some bonus skew stuff, get on Patreon, sign up on there.

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