Weekly Skews - Weekly Skews - 8/27/24 – A Great Time to Be Stuck in Space

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Skewers, tonight we talk about the astronauts currently stuck in space, and how lucky they are to be missing the insanity that is life on this planet right now. No obviously being stuck in space is le...ss than ideal, but seriously things are wild, and we’re gonna talk about ‘em. Join us.Support the show

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Starting point is 00:00:00 what's up everybody welcome back happy skews day to you it's august 27th 2024 i'm tray that's mark how you doing over there mark what's that jay we got a fun show me talk about uh the astronauts who've been stuck in space since june and are coming home to february and it's is a it is a political story it's not an electoral sense because now the party really cares about fixing the stuff that caused this but uh it's uh it's about about, you know, privatization, neoliberal economics and decades of fucking... Yeah, extracting money from what used to be public goods so a few psychos can be richer and more powerful. So we're going to talk about it. And how it led to two people being stuck in two people approaching retirement age being stuck in space.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I'm glad we're talking about it because it's wild to me that that's not a bigger story because it's, you know, like, for example, the Martian, which I love that book and the movie hits too. But, like, you know, the idea that like marooned astronauts, the whole world would be glued to their TV every day. Like, we got to get these people home. And I feel like, I feel like 70 plus percent of people don't even know that there are marooned astronauts out there right now. No, waiting for Elon to give him a ride home and he can figure out by February. But it's like, yeah, we were allowed to, man. It's not just the Martian Apollo 13s about like, shit, the fucking, what's the one where Ben Affleck and. and they dig the hole on the asteroid.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Armageddon? Armageddon? How could you forget the cinematic masterpiece? It is Armageddon, Mark. I just forgot the title of it, Trey. I just read the title of it. So, like, we thought we were led to believe that the entirety of Earth's society
Starting point is 00:01:41 would mobilize to solve space problems. We're supposed to be, like, looking at, like, TV news coverage through the windows of storefronts and we all hug each other and cry. And it's just like, well, American flag, nobody gives a fuck. It makes you think that Adam McKay was really on something with Don't Look Up, the Leo Leonardo DiCaprio movie, which is the opposite of that,
Starting point is 00:02:02 which is him saying, like, nobody would give a fuck. And, you know, it's like, yeah, maybe that's, maybe that's more accurate. Yeah, yeah. So before we get to show, what's I wanted to bring about, there's another abortion case that could make things drastically worse in America as if, uh, if you didn't think they could get that way. So basically, uh, Oklahoma filed a lawsuit against the Department of Health and Human Services. Um, it's a, it seems like it's low stakes, but it's not. not. And I'll try to make this as unboring as possible. But this is really going to make you
Starting point is 00:02:30 understand why conservatives put so much focus on judges and law stuff because it's easy to zone out for like 15 seconds of trying to understand why it matters. Okay. So based on the Biden administration requires recipients of Title 10 grants. These are these are federal programs that fund family planning services to present patients with neutral factual information about all their family planning options, which include abortion. You can completely comply with this requirement just by giving patients a phone number. They can call. They tells them their options. You basically have a business card or brochure. If you, if you receive federal funding, you are required to at least make patients aware that abortion is an option medically, right? You have to,
Starting point is 00:03:15 people have to be aware that this is something that's on the table, like safely. You're required to give them a phone number that they can call that will let them know that abortion exists. Right. So pretty low-level messaging. Right. But Oklahoma has decided in all their wisdom that that don't hit for them. So they took $4.5 million in grants in 2023 and decided not to comply with it and no longer give people the phone
Starting point is 00:03:38 number. So then the Biden administration terminated their grant for $4.5 million. So now Oklahoma was a Supreme Court to allow it to receive Title X funds without complying with the call-in number rule. And it's laying on the court's shadow docket, which means they'll be able to rule on it without even writing an opinion. All right?
Starting point is 00:03:54 So the context here is like the federal government's been flip-flopping on this rule going back and forth since Reagan, depending on whether a Republican or Democrat was in office. So they flip-flop between requiring it or forbidding it. Either you have to give people a phone number or you cannot give people a phone number, all right? But the downstream effects of this would be that the federal government, if they rule in Oklahoma's favor across the board for all kinds of federal programs, would the federal government be required to give them money without any sort of preconditions. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:27 No matter who controls the federal government. Right. So they, so like some crazy-ass states, like for example, Tennessee, let's just say, we'll be able to take a shitload of federal funding for these purposes and use it for like abstinence only education or some kind of, right. Like they just use it for whatever they want to that they deem is under this umbrella. They could take federal family planning funds and use it to build a giant meat granted or of homeless people into, right? There'd be no rule, right? So like, it's like, at a minimum
Starting point is 00:04:58 blow up how Medicaid and Medicare operate. But basically, they want to make it so it doesn't matter who's president or who controls Congress because nothing they do will impact anything going on in red states. It's sort of like a reminder that Project 2025 is going on with or without Donald Trump as the face of it all around us all the time. And yes, Trump losing is necessary, but not sufficient to beat these assholes back and to have a democracy because if we the people like the Congress based upon a platform that then has enacted through legislation sets rules for how tax dollars are spent some dipshit governor should not be able to to overthrow the will of the federal government which is what the fucking civil war was about and is still going on
Starting point is 00:05:45 apparently so right yeah state tracts baby what are you going to do also the idea that like the government should have some say in in how other entities use the money that they give them is kind of related to what we're doing to me talking about later too. You know what I mean? The amount of control that the government should have when it comes to the money that goes towards programs like this. If the government of Oklahoma wants to have control over federal policy, he can fucking run for president. Right. Yeah. You know, my boy, Andrew Jackson was fighting this fight way back in 18. Yeah. Andrew Jackson don't have for me, but the nullification crisis was the first time.
Starting point is 00:06:22 that I'm aware of where this thing came up where the state started being like, we ain't got to listen to you. And Andrew Jackson shut that shit down, and that kind of sort of later led directly to the Civil War. But he still was in the right as far as that goes. He fucked up a lot of things, too. Anyway, let's go ahead and get into it.
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Starting point is 00:08:03 All right, as for the show tonight, as Mark said, we're going to be talking about the marooned astronauts and nobody seems to give a fuck about, but also along the way, all the things that they happen to be missing out on here on this whirling cinder that we call Earth. Let's go ahead and get into it. We begin with the Daily Dumbass, Matt, graphic, please.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Tonight's DD RFK Jr. For forgetting what the cover story of all this was. This was his VP candidate, Nicole Shanahan. The hesitation we have right now in joining forces with Trump is that he has not apologized or publicly come out and said Operation Warp Speed was my fault. It was a failure and I let it happen. I'll never let it happen again.
Starting point is 00:08:47 The vaccinations, right. I mean, all of it. Right. So Trump's entire campaign is the premise of it It's like I've never been president before Which is crazy to me Right
Starting point is 00:08:59 Like there's a controversy today about like The federal government Like pressuring Facebook to monitor To moderate content in 2020 And Trump's complaining about it As our congressional Republicans It's like who was president in 2020 Motherfuckers?
Starting point is 00:09:15 Like it's like what are you talking about? Yeah he was saying it's like this proof Because Facebook refused to moderate content in 2020, Trump was like, this proves that the election was, you know, messed with in 2020. It's like, you were the president leading up to that election. You were the one in charge. And he's always kind of been this way with COVID, where it's like, you know, he can't take credit for it because his people all hate vaccines or whatever. But also he's the reason that things weren't really bad and didn't get bad until Joe Biden took over and they did the best ever and Biden fucked it all up.
Starting point is 00:09:47 But yet vaccines are bad. and Fauci's an evil, but Fauci was there when Trump was there. And the whole, like, trying to walk that tightrope with COVID is, I mean, I guess it doesn't matter because it doesn't really matter what he says, but, you know. Shanahan, she's on Adam Carolla's show or whatever right there. She goes on to talk about how, like, she complains about the lockdowns and stuff, which the first round of COVID lockdowns happened with Donald Trump was president, and he was in favor of them.
Starting point is 00:10:15 He started getting, when people, us people were mad about it, he started agitating for, like, lifting a lot of the scope restrictions, but like the federal government shut down air travel. It was like, like, the idea, the idea was a passive observer to all this. He's just fucking funny to me. Um, so yeah, RFK Jr. dropped out and endorsed Donald Trump late last week, um, which everybody of course knows by now. And just one of the silliest most fucking stupid things to ever happen. Because like, to the degree that RFK's life has had anything good accomplished in it, he would, he was it, he made environmentalism. He raised the profile of it by being a well-known environmentalist, and now he just endorsed a guy whose energy plan is three words,
Starting point is 00:10:51 drill baby drill. All right. He also announced that RFK Jr. And Tulsa Gab are honorary members of his transition team, uh, the rumors are that one of the reasons RFK Jr endorsed him is because he promised him that he could be in charge of the CDC or the Department of Health and Services. Dude, wait, hold on. Wait.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I had heard that like, that RFK Jr. reached out to both campaigns beforehand about like, hey, what kind of job can you give me a fight? Which is funny to me to just announce that you're up for. sale like that, but like, what kind of job can you give me in exchange for an endorsement and that Kamala didn't return his calls at all, which is like, why, I mean, for what? Like, there's no department
Starting point is 00:11:27 of lunatic bullshit, you know? Uh, but you're saying with Trump, though, it's not just some nebulous position, it's the CDC or one of those things. Because like, I don't, I don't know, it's ridiculous, whatever he gets, but if
Starting point is 00:11:43 it's something that egregious, that's like truly hilarious. in a frightening way. Put him in charge of the Food and Drug Administration you know
Starting point is 00:11:51 a guy who believes that antidepressants have driven the surge in mass shootings that poppers cause AIDS
Starting point is 00:11:56 that herbicides calls children to be gay or transgender that he thinks Wi-Fi causes quote leaky brain
Starting point is 00:12:03 whatever the fuck that is he went on Joe Rogan show convinced Joe Rogan that Wi-Fi causes brain damage
Starting point is 00:12:09 which I'm what does Rogan know they have Wi-Fi in Rogan studio of course I don't understand that like
Starting point is 00:12:15 they think cell signals cause cancer and, quote, break our DNA. He also thinks that 5G signals in particular or an instrument and a plot to, quote, harvest our data and control our behavior, which, yes, but not like through telepathy by, like, knowing your behavior and movements and your data to, like, sell you stuff being appetizments. No, your Google searches and things of that nature, yeah, right reading your mind. It's what you walk up, you can walk right up to saying something that sort of makes sense,
Starting point is 00:12:41 and I kind of agree with, and then be like, but it could, but also 5G controls your brain waves. but also like this is today or yesterday on X he commented on some random person who posted about chem trails and said we will get to the bottom of this cry like we're still on chem trails in 2024 but you put RFK Jr. in charge of stopping chem trails it doesn't have to ground all the planes because it's just
Starting point is 00:13:05 fucking air moisture this guy it's one of the most pathetic small people in America public life and I'm glad this hopefully is the first of many people silly people want to talk off and just go live their lives somewhere. Right. He was complaining that Kamala wouldn't meet with him. There's one of his justifications for giving his endorsement to Trump.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And I'm like, what's best for the country factor at all in any of this? Or it's just about you feeling insulted? That's what I'm saying. It's just so, like, baldly self-serve. I just feel like it's a wild thing. Maybe, I don't know, maybe this is common and happens all the time. But it just feels wild to me to just publicly state. like yeah I went to both of them and he promised me something so then I endorsed him
Starting point is 00:13:50 and I know he didn't literally you know put it that way but there's no other way to take the way he framed it you know what I mean like it's just a wild thing to just publicly admit to me like he promised me something so I endorsed him she wouldn't so fuck her and it's like part of that's politics operating normally like these like usually it's fairly typical to primary someone would drop out for being promised a job as a cafe secretary Right. Right. So, like, that part's, what's weird about it is to do it between two parties that are like, at this point.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Yeah, disparate. Yeah. Antithetical to each other. The stuff they have in common, bugs a shit out of me, but they're pretty disparate on a lot of stuff. So, like, like, it's just like, so like, he also said in his press conference announcing that he was dropping out, which he's not, kind of didn't drop out what you get to in a second. But like, he basically said in a fair world, that be the Democratic nominee, like, that he was unfairly maligned by the media and the party. because he did run as a Democrat. Just because of all his mutilated animal corpse scandal, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:14:48 that means he's not fit to be president, which like he never had any shot at it anyway. But I have no doubt that he fully believes that in his head, that, quote, in a fair world, I would be the Democratic nominee because he's from a family of American royalty, and you know that he believes he's entitled to the Democratic. If he decides he wants it, he's supposed to get it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 God damn it, that's how things you're supposed to work. So, yeah. That includes if you're his babysitter and he wants to have sex with you, apparently. So, like, to be clear, like, politics saying it ain't for fucking soft babies, right? It's a tough game, right? And the two parties do play dirty when it comes to, like, maintaining their duopoly, all right? The Democratic Party did, for some reason, I don't understand, follow a bunch of lawsuits trying to keep them on ballots.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Well, they should have been suing him to keep him on ballots considering how things were going. So I don't understand what they're doing there. But, like, he had basic, like, he also ran it tremendously in constant. competent campaign like he was doing shit that was like flatly not just illegal but unconstitutional for example he lives in California and he picked a vice president that lives in California and
Starting point is 00:15:50 which constitutionally would make him ineligible to receive California's 35 electoral votes to have two people from the same state on the ticket so like he got around that by pretending that he lived in New York and to do so his address he claims
Starting point is 00:16:07 in New York was he's renting a room in his friend's house for 500 bucks a month in New York City. If you're going to have a lie, can you make it plausible and make it $3,000 a month for a room to rent in New York City? Because $500 a month ain't,
Starting point is 00:16:20 like, that's not a plausible cover story. Like, you've got to be smarter than that. No, but you know, maybe he's trying to be like, yeah, I'm a man of the people or whatever. I thought his whole, the evidence he presented for privy and he lived in New York was the fact that he dumped a dead bear in Central Park 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Right. Remember that? That was me. I've been there the whole time. That was me. It's a fairly rule, like, like technically,
Starting point is 00:16:40 Dick Cheney and George W. Bush both lived in Texas when they ran, but it's fairly easy to establish residency in America. You just, like, buy a house and change your voter registration. But he didn't even go through that amount of effort.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It's just a lazy and incompetent shill sort of thing because, again, he wasn't trying to get, like, the president. He was running to, like, try to make Democrats lose and it didn't work. So, like, whatever, whatever he's doing now. He's always going to drop out.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Do you see, like, the prediction markets? You could, you could buy dollar bets and predict it that he was going to drop out for nine cents up until like two weeks ago. They were selling dollars for nine cents. I was like, this is so ridiculous. All right. Another way he screwed up was they had a bunch of ballot. Like, they didn't have enough signatures to get on ballots and they had some fraud associated with him.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So he wasn't going to be on the ballot in some states because they just couldn't, they had no organization. But he wasn't actually, the point is like he wasn't actually trying to win. To be mad, the world's unfair to him that he's not the Democratic nominee when he's a fucking moron who can't do shit properly is like, But you at least got to do your homework before you complain, right? He also, like, he's also kind of, he's still going to be on a lot of ballots. Like just yesterday or today, the Wisconsin's election commission voted five to one that he must stay on the ballot. You can't remove himself from majority of the seven battleground states where he says it hurt Trump's chances. He's going to be on the ballot in Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, and Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:18:05 The motherfucker can't even fuck up not quitting. Right. He quit too late. Right. Yeah, because that, I mean, at the end of the day, that's what has really happened here, right? You were saying, oh, he was never really playing it. It was like, he was meant to play spoiler to a certain candidate, i.e. Joe Biden, later Kamala Harris, when it became clear that it wasn't actually going that, when it became crystal clear that that was actually working in reverse, then they were like, well, you got to, you have to, you have to drop out then. And so that's why he has now since dropped out. But again, but they still. fucked that up. He did it too late. So he's still on the ballot in some of these states and could have some financial impact.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And a lot of his voters, their goal was to get to 5% naturally because that unlocks a lot of stuff that you won't have to get back signatures to get on ballots in the next election. You want to get public financing and stuff. So like a lot of people were supporting him just to have a third party. A third party. That's what, yeah, that's what always the argument is for like third party candidates. Like, I think I guess 5% and then things will start to change. And it's like always from a macro.
Starting point is 00:19:10 In macro scale, I appreciate that argument because having just two parties don't hit for me. You know what I mean? But it feels like in most of my adulthood, or at least for the past eight years or whatever, it's been like, okay, but now it's the time to do that, though. We can't meet, you know what I mean? But I mean, it would be nice. I mean, not for the party he represents, but to have other options, I could get down with that. Also, Bernie and Trump both showed the playbook for how you do it. You don't run as a third party.
Starting point is 00:19:38 you run an insurgent campaign within a party because a lot of stuff comes with being a political party. The Republicans did not want Trump to win the primary in 2016. Democrats did not want Bernie to win in 2016 and they successfully boxed him out. They also didn't want Biden to win in 2020
Starting point is 00:19:54 but he fucking beat the staff. So like the Biden thing was a whole different. That wasn't because of his politics just because of who Joe Biden is because the party won somebody different. But so like it's just a brain dead.
Starting point is 00:20:08 way to do something. If you want to establish a third party in America, I get it. You start from the ground up. Win some fucking city council elections and start from there. Don't start with the presidency. It's dumb. But just from a seriously, coming from the Kennedys, a family that was very good at grabbing and exercising the levers of power. Like, how bad this dumb motherfucker is as it. Forget his politics for a change for a second. Like just just that part's embarrassing. Like Joe Kennedy and RFK mostly rolling over in their fucking gray is in shame. Yeah, but that's how that goes, though, right? With a lot of family, I mean, I guess not all of them.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Some of them have been around for a long, long time. But it's, you know, it's like someone makes the fortune, someone else kind of like coast on it. And then the, and then the grandson ruins it. Like, there's some saying that's like a, that's a, do you know what I'm talking about? Where they, that's short sleeves, long sleeves, short sleeves, no sleeves, kind of that. Right. Yeah. But, yeah, they, you know, because he, because of the circumstances, the context in which he grew up, he, he, he don't have.
Starting point is 00:21:08 the capacity to live up to, you know, whatever, their family name, because he's never had to really hit it anything. He just traveled the world fucking murdering animals and shit. Right. He only became an environmentalist, an environmental lawyer, to rebuild his brand because he was a heroin addict. You had to go through recovery. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:29 He's like, he's like, just a completely silly, frivolous person. And like, like, the idea that Joe Kennedy, who made, start off as a bootlegger, built a business empire that did business with the Nazis. and fucking got his son elected as the first Catholic president of the United States has to have this this this this failed son fuck up on his grandson his resume is like insane to me so like the I know but the the complaint that in a fair world he'd be that he'd be a candidate he'd be the president the next president of the United States is like insane to me because the only reason anyone took him silly seriously but was because of his fucking name he's a nobody
Starting point is 00:22:01 he's a nothing he's like he's just a big of a loser's like Kamala's not meeting with me and you either right I'm too busy me with archive jubes I got nothing going on. So, like, what the fuck? It's like, America's love for the Kennedy is, I hope this is, like, the final nail in the coffin of it, because they're just, like, a ridiculously, like, there's this whole thing where the Kennedy cursed, like, they, like, all their deaths come out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And sure, like, RFK and JFK getting shot was cursed shit, all right, or conspiracy, depending where you come down on that. But, like, the plane crashes and stuff, like, they're a really reckless, weird, drug-addicted alcoholic family who has an insane sense of entitlement. And one of the Kennedys died skiing into a tree while playing a game of ski football, which is a family tradition. They skied out on the mountain really fast while playing football. I'm like, it's not a curse if you die doing that. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:52 That's expected. Yeah, I mean, no, you're right. Maybe, you know, ski where there's not any trees at if you don't want to run into a goddamn tree. Right. Yeah, but he's like, no, these trees should respect. I should respect who my dad is. Don't you know who I am to a tree that you've just smashed into? The sure amount of like sex crimes and weird deaths in the family's wake.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like it's like, like, did this argument that like Ted was the best Kennedy and he probably watched a woman drown and didn't tell anybody about it. Right. So like just just fucking please the Schlossberg, the Kennes who just like post on TikTok and enjoy their wealth have at it. Leave the rest of us out of your weird shit. All right. Yeah. So. Bye,
Starting point is 00:23:42 RFK. But hold on, but it, but even though he left, the scandals have not stopped, right? A new one happened with, oh, yeah, forgot. Yeah. So, oh, I forgot to mention up top that we're going to be talking about Ben Affleck for a second here because Ben Affleck somehow affected American presidential race, but through no choice of his own. So he, J.Lo is divorcing him. And he started kind of maybe dating a woman by the name of Kit Kennedy, who is RFK's daughter from his first wife three wives ago. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:14 So people started Googling what Kit Kennedy about and found an interview with her from 2012 in Town and Country Magazine where she tells a story, God, let me read this to you. Around 1994, Kennedy caught wind with a dead whale and washed up on a beach of Hyannisport, Massachusetts, and rushed it out to the scene with a chainsaw and six-year-old kick in tow. Like you do. Yeah. He cut the whale's head off, secured her to the roof of his minivan with bungee cords, and made the five-hour drive back to the family's home in New York. Quote, I'm quoting Kik here. Kick, by the way, is she's, that's her legal name, but she was named after a matriarch of the family's nickname.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Okay, so her name is not the weird part here. Every time we accelerated on the highway, whale juice would pour into the windows of the car, and it was the rancest thing on the planet. We all had plastic bags over our heads with mouth holes cut out, and people on the highway were giving us the finger. But that was just normal day-to-day stuff for us. That is such a telling quote. Do you know what I mean? This family of rich people driving down the road wearing like mask from a 2000s horror movie, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:25:24 Like just eye holes and shit cut out looking like something from the strangers or whatever with whale juice spraying the six-year-olds. the back because there's decapitated whales head on the top of the fucking car. It's like, how much more insane could this motherfucker get? It's so funny that the brainworm thing, I don't know if it's funny. It's almost like, he's almost lucky that the brain worm came out early in the process of all these things. Do you know what I mean? Because people can now, people can now be like, well, I mean, a worm did eat part of his
Starting point is 00:26:01 brain you know so it's like a built-in excuse so it's like having it having you yourself admit that brain's like part worms like part of your brain is like turns out to be a good thing for you from a PR perspective is really indicative of this guy's whole deal this this made me realize that like he's a very common type of rich dude throughout history but he realized he was born in the wrong century because like 200 years ago he'd be a perfectly normal rich weirdo he'd have like a cadet of curios with stuff like different kinds of fetuses from all over the globe. Shrunken heads.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Shrunken heads. Yeah. Skeletons from like, like here's an elephant skeleton and people in London would be like, oh, I've never seen that.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Like you'd have like a like, like a, like a trail around the world buying like, have like a dead people zoo full of like stuff corpses. Like oh, that's what a pigmy looks like.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And you wouldn't have like, like it's like fucking just like, this type of guy's always been with us. They just should not be. That's, no, dude. You're so right. That's so true.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Because it's like, you know, and I've said a version of this in the video I made about it today but it's like it's like what like like a whale skull doesn't make a kickass centerpiece for a shamanistic blood ritual you know what I mean you really gonna act like that's not metal as fuck like that's not cool I'm the crazy ones you know like I mean I hear you but yeah you shouldn't be in charge of shit though now we're to talk about a different kind of weird other shouldn't be in charge of shit and that's the board of Boeing and Elon Musk so let's talk about space Let's start from the best place to learn about the recent happenings with this fucking weird situation. TMZ, you got this video, Matt. Welcome back to TMZ Live, Harvey and Babcock here.
Starting point is 00:27:38 This story about these two astronauts who are stuck in space. It feels like lost in space almost, the TV show. But we're talking about Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams, who thought they were going up last June on the Starliner, which is a Boeing spacecraft. for eight days. It now looks like it's going to be eight months. And there is a whole thing going on.
Starting point is 00:28:03 They actually had a suitcase that they had packed with clothes and everything. But NASA said, look, it's only going to be eight days. So they didn't bring the suitcase. And they didn't really even have any clothes. Wow. NASA told them not, NASA is fully turned into fucking Spirit Airlines. They lost their luggage, basically.
Starting point is 00:28:19 We'll let them check a bag. Oh, my God. Just everything about this. So, like, they were going to, try to maybe come home over the weekend, or they had to make a decision over the weekend, and NASA decided to bring the Boeing Starliner back empty because they essentially were the first crude test flight of the Boeing Starliner and had propulsion problems, which is why they've been stuck up there since June. Now, they're not alone, and they're not in danger of starving
Starting point is 00:28:46 to death, but as Harvey Levin made it clear, they do not have a change of underwear, which feels like an important thing, relative to the quality of life. So, like Harvey said, they've been up there since the beginning of June with no idea how or when they're going to be able to come back to Earth. And this has turned to me from a horror movie premise into something that's like starring Danny McBride. Okay, but Mark, real quick, just to where I'll establish here, they took a Boeing ride up to the space station, right? But it has fucked up or got damaged and they were worried that it was not safe for them to return on said ride. So now they're stranded up there and that's what happened. And again, the vehicle itself we're talking about was manufactured by Boeing who was otherwise been crushing it lately.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I can't be any other negative headlines coming out of Boeing over the past year. But yeah, what the fuck are they doing? So now they're going to have to wait for a ride home from SpaceX. Ah, Elon. Which always blows up their rockets in February if Elon could pull that off. so only you know 240 days away from their family when they're supposed to be eight
Starting point is 00:29:58 all right so people were making some pretty funny jokes about this like we got like if we all got some got some pretty sweet monkey costumes
Starting point is 00:30:07 to greet them when they got back we could have a really great time yeah that's funny that's good out of it so we should totally like psychologically tortured these marooned out and they'll get back
Starting point is 00:30:18 it would be funny though we should do it for the lulls you know get a lot of likes out of it but no is a good idea. But like, psychological torture them even more because I just need to point out here because like the idea that they're probably not going to die is like obviously good,
Starting point is 00:30:34 but it's not like, again, necessary but not sufficient here because they did not sign up for an eight-month trip. Yes. They sign up for an eight-day trip. Yeah, anyone that's like, oh, hell, they're fine up there. It's like, bro, it's not, I would imagine, literally imagine being stuck in like a kind of okay Hilton, like an airport Hilton for eight months
Starting point is 00:30:56 or whatever, that would drive you insane. Now imagine it's a fucking tube orbiting the world and there's no one else around that. No room service ain't nothing. Like, I mean, it ain't fun. What's the most stranded you ever been? Because I was trying to think about earlier.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Stranded, I don't know. Do you have an answer? Let me keep thinking about it. I got three. Like one time at Christmas, my wife and I were stuck in an airport for almost 72. hours because there was a fire at the airport Atlanta. So we were stuck at LAX, then Boston, and New York. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And the other two options were drunk with a dead cell phone in a part of New York I wasn't familiar with. Yeah. And the third option was me and my dad, our headlamps ran out of the batteries where were a coon hunt and there was no moonlight. And we had to sleep in the woods and the freezing cold until the sun came up. But all those had an end. I knew all those had an end point coming.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Right. Eventually the, eventually air travel was going to be figured out or the other two both sawed by the sun coming up. This is not a good answer because we, it ended up fine, but I, I,
Starting point is 00:32:04 we got caught in a blizzard an hour away from downtown Los Angeles in a place called Mount Baldi. You've been up to Mount Baldi? You know where Mount Baldi is? Less than an hour from downtown L.A., but the elevation goes up like crazy. We got caught in a literal blizzard, I'm from the south, more snow than I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 00:32:22 It was insane. And we got stuck up there and it took us like 14 hours to get out. But, you know, 10, 10, 11 hours into that, our fuel light came on, whatever, and we're sitting this big line of cars. And so I thought, like, I very genuinely thought me and Katie and our like five and six-year-old sons, who we had no food for, we're going to be stuck in a fuelless. Jeep in a blizzard an hour away from downtown Los Angeles. But we didn't.
Starting point is 00:32:54 We made it out. But that was the most like, that's the most worried I've ever been about, about being stranded somewhere, I think. I think your story beats mine because you had kids, because you had kids lives at stake and mine was just mine. And all I'd do was not freeze to death during a Virginia January and over the night. So like, but, okay, so they don't know when they're going to be able to come home. They haven't known for a long time.
Starting point is 00:33:16 They're stuck up there in outer space. and it's not just a bad day at work. They're losing, if you know about space travel, they're losing muscle mass and bone density and shitting in a bag. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:24 But they got tang, so that's fun. They got dipping dots, probably, maybe, I don't know. And the fact is American where, like, when I was a kid, the space program at the national point of pride,
Starting point is 00:33:36 the fact that NASA has no vehicles of its own that can gas up to go get them is a fucking humiliation. It's absolutely a disgrace, bro. It is. That's my main thing with this. It's just a sad state of affairs with NASA and but like
Starting point is 00:33:48 I feel like a lot maybe a lot of Republicans might be like yeah that's why NASA's a fucking we shouldn't be giving them no money it's a waste of fucking money look what they're doing but it but I feel the opposite it's like this is why we should have been funding NASA more robustly over all these years and let them
Starting point is 00:34:03 maintain the kind of status that they had during the space race so that shit like this doesn't happen and we don't have to come to fucking Elon Musk hat in hand to fix a scenario like this it's a goddamn travesty that's what it's not it's not like NASA Day hasn't had
Starting point is 00:34:18 fuck-ups in the past. They've killed astronauts and made mistakes and stuff. But the point of it is when that's the bad stuff that happened, they owned, but also the good stuff, the public owned.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Right, yeah. Everyone was proud we put the flag up on the moon if you believe it happened. So like, yeah, like when we have GPS, we have fucking, you know, like we have a lot of stuff. Like the internet exists
Starting point is 00:34:38 because of NASA and the DoD, right? Which, you know, maybe we delete the internet, but we tried something new and maybe parts of it hit. So like the, but like, so instead, of giving the money to NASA to fuck up,
Starting point is 00:34:50 we give the money to Boeing to fuck up. So if things go well, they keep it all. If things go poorly, we're still the astronauts that are fucked. Yes, right. And you meant, we're all well aware of the shit going to a Boeing by this point, but I want to read some headlines.
Starting point is 00:35:05 These are all from just the last five days, all right? I'm going to go through them pretty fast. Alaska Airlines flight forced to return to C-TAC after Boeing 737's engine shuts down. Another story, Boeing's main 737 door plug mechanic was on vacation during final assembly of Alaska Airlines blowout aircraft. Why the Air Force is paying Boeing $2.6 billion for just two airplanes? Ex-Bowing staff claims electrical faults, quote, concealed. A judge who overturned a $72 million verdict against Boeing disclosed he bought and sold Boeing stock while hearing the case but says his wife's IRA was to blame.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Boeing workers are on the verge of striking. this is from today Delta workers killed after Boeing planes tire unexpectedly explodes All right now it's I want to talk about
Starting point is 00:35:55 the challenger for a second here because like my wife and I were talking about it recently because she has an employee who's like in her late 20s and somehow 9-11 came up and she was like do you remember 9-11
Starting point is 00:36:07 and the person this woman had a vague recollection of 9-11 but no understanding of what life was like before 9-11 right right not just you could take you could walk to the gate of the airport to greet people but the vibes society wide the vibes were different absolutely paradigm shift for sure so like like I can tell described to people what happened when the challenger exploded
Starting point is 00:36:30 I cannot make you understand that the whole country cried that day because a few astronauts died live on television because they were national fucking heroes and so like when you describe it so like as a news story, some astronauts died. It probably sounds like this has the same way to you as those Delta workers dying in an accident or you read about a car crash on the news or something. It did not feel that way. No, and part of it was, I think maybe we've talked about this part of it on here before, but a big part of why that happened was they had this big campaign in the run-up to it
Starting point is 00:37:02 about putting a teacher in space. We're going to put a teacher in space that she was on the Challenger mission. So school kids, nation, wide, we're watching it. Like, it was this big concerted effort. Let's all watch this teacher going to space, how inspirational that is. So every school kid in America was watching that shit, and then, you know, then it exploded and it went the way it did, and yes, that fucks people up.
Starting point is 00:37:26 But did you also know, Mark? I can't remember we talk about this before. Did you know they came very, very close to even going a step further than that? Did you know who was almost on board challenger when it blew up? Big bird. Oh, my God. I swear to God because as part of this
Starting point is 00:37:44 this part of this campaign they have putting a teacher on thing whatever they very nearly put the big bird puppet on Challenger because of all these kids watching and shit and then but it didn't work out
Starting point is 00:37:56 but like all of America's children very nearly saw Big Bird explode and a fiery deathball in the middle of fucking homeroom or whatever that day but yeah what would children's workshop television workshop have done
Starting point is 00:38:10 because you can't bring Big Bird back to life, but they would have had to a place. They didn't have a funeral for Big Bird. I don't know. It would have been, but, yeah, that came this close to happening. Anyway. So, like, if you guys are too young, like astronauts, we talked about the show, I'll try to keep this quick, because I know we brought it up before,
Starting point is 00:38:25 but astronauts were fucking heroes. They had trading cards. They still are to me, Mark. But, yeah. Yeah, people, people had posters of them. And we decided to privatize that to where the only astronauts we can name right now are Butch and Sonny who were stuck on the fucking, I can only name them because I got stuck on a fucking...
Starting point is 00:38:43 And it reminds me of how far we drifted as a society. This is like... When Trump's administration killed the Iranian general, Soleimani, they owned us pretty well. They were talking about potential retaliation targets, and Soleimani was a big military hero in Iran. And they're like, there is no retaliation. They don't have any heroes to kill. All they have a celebrities and cartoon characters. I was about say, it's like, I don't even want to say what I'm about to say.
Starting point is 00:39:08 But, yeah, it's like, at the time of challenge, you're kids back, like, at the time of challenge your kids idolized astronauts and shit and now it's like aiden ross and jake paul or whatever you know what i mean and they don't know who any fucking astronauts are and it's uh to me it'd be worth it'd be worth the price of nassas whole budget to have a killed kids heroes be astronauts again instead of fucking jake paul yeah right andrew tape you know anyway sad though but like going like to bowing for a second like all everything i just said is a failure of you could write a whole People are going to write whole books about how Boeing is a failure of like late-stage capitalism, outsourcing corruption, regulatory capture, et cetera, just about this one fucking company. And you can write it just about the space program forgetting the fucking passenger air travel shit.
Starting point is 00:39:56 It's insane to me they're still allowed to exist or not re-nationalizing some of this stuff and nobody's even proposing it. Yeah, that's what I know. I was about to say that. I almost like jokingly said like, when are we going to take these motherfuckers over? But like literally with the amount of power and. market cap and everything that they have and the number of lives that are at stake, like, at what point do we actually take them over? Because it's starting to feel like that should happen.
Starting point is 00:40:20 You know what I mean? Like, they clearly do not have their shit together. And again, people can die. People have died. People can continue to die. Like, it's wild. Oh, even without like the Elon's crafts are mostly unmanned. So when they blow up, they haven't killed people yet.
Starting point is 00:40:37 But they're going to blow up and kill people. And that's not counting like the, the, quality of life and the, like, the poisoning and pollution deaths are doing it the facility and the long-term deaths from a cancer and shit that are going to be as a result of, like, space act activity in Texas. Like, so like, this is like, my question is like, because Boeing is an American company that obviously cannot build a spacecraft. We're relying on Elon, who's an immigrant from South Africa to build our spacecraft for us,
Starting point is 00:41:03 I guess, consuming he can get one to fly to this international space station to bring him home. Do we, can Americans, we're Americans. Were Americans ever able to build spacecraft? It was only the Nazis we kidnapped from Germany. Werner von Braun, yeah. Operation Piperclip, man. I guess that's the only way we ever pulled it off to begin with. We need Operation Paperclip, too, I guess.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Except those white supremacists that we kidnapped, too. And I'm not going to mean like, they might have just been passionate about physics. And the Nazi regime was the only one around to work for. Right. Because Warner von Braun famously resisted the militarization of NASA. So good on him for that Maybe he had some regrets about the course of his life Building rockets and blew up London
Starting point is 00:41:44 To kill civilians in London or whatever But like They were employees Of the American government Elon Musk Basically behaves as if he's the boss of the American government Exactly yes That that right there
Starting point is 00:41:59 Is the main difference in what's fucked The whole thing up in my opinion Is what you just said Those like Werner von Romer was employee Of NASA of the American government And therefore of the American people by extension. But now, like I said earlier,
Starting point is 00:42:12 the American government is coming to Elon Musk hat and hand being like, can you please help us here? Will you please bail us out, sir? If you don't mind, sir, could you please help us? And that's the position he's in. And it's like, that, this shit, this ain't it.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Like state capitalism is privatization. It's like they always used private contract. I used to be a contracting officer for the federal government. I know that we do that and have always done that. But the dynamic was not the same as it is now. And you just summed it up by putting it that way. That's the difference.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Werner Brombron worked for the government. The government works for Elon Musk today. That's what's wrong with everything. Wesen, pretty pleased to go get two people stuck on the space station. He's like, maybe I'll get around to it in seven months. Yeah. Got a lot of shift posting to do. I got this election I'm trying to swing.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You know, I'm interviewing famous fascists on the internet. I got a lot going on right now. We'll see how it goes. And not for, I want to talk about who Bush and Sonny are, Butch Wilmore and Sonny are for a second here. Sunny's name, by the way, is spelled S-U-N-I because her mom's of Indian descent.
Starting point is 00:43:20 But I've seen him pronounce Sunny a lot, so I'm going with Sunny, all right. Bush grew up in Mount Juliet, Tennessee, which is about an hour and a half from where I looked it up, hour and a half from Salina, where you're from. He played football for his high school team and later for Tennessee Tech. Woo, Gold Gold N Eagles, baby, Class of 2009.
Starting point is 00:43:35 That's what I'm talking about. See, I didn't even know that. I didn't even know when went to the same mom. what's funny is I almost brought up earlier but then thought better of it that when I was at college at Tennessee Tech in the 2000s they're like not claimed of somebody they were very proud of at the time was the CEO of Boeing at that time was a TCU graduate that he has he's not now and he hasn't been for a line that's what I'm saying you never saw a shit happening on his wife he was probably a monster but anyway so he was at least an engineer though right they
Starting point is 00:44:04 were probably placed all their engineers with MBA dudes yes no he was an engineer yeah TTU's engineering school. I didn't, I'm not an engineer, but yes. So, right, we got a couple connections this story. Look at TT. But yeah, anyway, I didn't, I didn't even know we had an astronaut. I'm proud. I'm excited. Cookville, Tennessee, baby, TTU. That's what's up. Bring Butch home. Anyway, sorry. Go ahead. So after Tennessee Tech, he joined the Navy, became a test pilot, 8,000 hours of flying time, 633 aircraft carrier landings. The fact that he's 61 and she's 58, I believe, is a part of this. We're talking about pre-show that like it feels like that's too old to be an astronaut but I don't think because
Starting point is 00:44:39 people don't try to be astronauts anymore it's not clear that anyone's coming for their jobs they're probably all the people that would be in the past would be competing them for these slots probably worked for Boeing SpaceX blue origin of all the private space programs which depresses me he flew combat missions during the first Gulf War and there was a flight test instructor this is his third trip to space as is sunny as he was in flew to the ISS in 2009 as a pilot five years later he was in the orbiting lab for six months on a Russian Soyuz from he flew out of Kazakhstan.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Personally, he's married with $2. He probably misses. She'd bring him home. But he's been doing Zoom church with his church in Houston. So that's good for him. Sonny's 58, like I said, she was the first woman to serve as a test pilot
Starting point is 00:45:22 for a new spacecraft. She's from Massachusetts originally. Born to an Indian-born brain researcher and a Slovenian-American healthcare worker. She thought she'd be a veterinarian, but then she ended up at the Naval Academy and became a helicopter pilot. and served overseas in the build-up of the Gulf War.
Starting point is 00:45:40 This, like I said, is her first third trip to space. Her first one, Jesus Christ, she flew aboard the shuttle discovery. But she also had to stay longer than expected on that mission six and a half months because Atlanta suffered hail damage to Florida pad. Like, she's been stuck in space twice, dog. Yeah, that's wild. Like, during that trip, she was supposed to do the Boston Marathon. She ended up doing it from space on a treadmill.
Starting point is 00:46:08 We got this picture of her, which this is what doing a marathon in space looks like. She's not having a good time, dude. I don't know. She's rad, though. She's cool. Look at her. She is rad.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Good time, bro. She's probably lit. Well, I'm not saying she's living the dream. She shouldn't be stuck up there, but I'm saying these people are built different, bro. She's running a marathon in space. That's pretty hardcore. And some smart asses probably like, ah, hell, it's easier in space.
Starting point is 00:46:33 You weigh less. But you go up there and do anything. spice motherfucker right they'd come talk to me so so that team to circle back that team that TMZ
Starting point is 00:46:42 clip we showed earlier led to an interview with her mom who said she's fine up there but to me like I'm sure she likes being in space even though she's away from her family
Starting point is 00:46:50 but like people but like the idea like it would make me uncomfortable just generally wondering if and when they were able to be able to bring me home
Starting point is 00:47:00 do you know what I'm saying like they don't have any guaranteed of a safe return considering that every attempt they've done to bring them home so far is fucked up right so like also like her mom's name is bonnie bonnie panya uh she was on tmz to promote her children's book called little tale big tales the adventures of an astronaut's dog the story of which revolves around the dog getting in pickles going on adventures while her
Starting point is 00:47:23 owner uh sunny is uh on the i s stuck for six months so did bonnie manifest this that's the secret baby you know what i mean that's the secret it's first Proof it works. Yeah, you got a man. Yeah, that's why. Well, okay, well, to be fair, to Bonnie, you did just say that her daughter literally has been here before. So, like, maybe Bonnie was just writing about what happened to her poor baby's dogs the last time she was marooned in space, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:52 Yeah. But anyway, so maybe the dog's name is Gorby. I don't know why the dog's named Gorby after Gorbachev, maybe. But, like, so if, admit him she misses her dog. and her second time being stuck in space and it sucks to her country that she's served for these many decades cannot fucking bring her home.
Starting point is 00:48:11 So now the plan, like I said before, is to catch a ride home on SpaceX. And another degree to which this fucking Boeing Starliner thing is disaster is they basically handed all the full faith and credit of America's private space program the contracting with NASA to SpaceX. So like,
Starting point is 00:48:30 again, this is the first crude flight. that they tried with a starliner. And so every business analyst is like, yeah, well, this means Boeing's got to go out of the space business, which means SpaceX is going to be the only credible alternative, the only credible alternative for NASA to use to try to get stuff to and from space because they can't go to space. This is why I fucking hate Elon Musk so much lately
Starting point is 00:48:52 is because he colors the way people interpret this whole thing, including me. And what I mean is like, none of what you just said hits me. It wouldn't hit for me anyway because of privatization and capitalization. and all that. But, like, no way that's like, oh, yeah, we've got to come to Elon for help. Oh, yeah, Elon's going to be the only game in town. And that all sucked.
Starting point is 00:49:11 It just, I just hate, I hate that he is the way he is because it makes me dislike those aspects of it when I know that there are, like, brilliant great people who work for SpaceX, right? You know what I mean? Like a lot of them, like a lot of brilliant engineers and aeronautical physicists. And that's probably made a real thing. but you know what I mean who like worked for that company
Starting point is 00:49:35 and are doing the bad and because they grew up loving space and the moon and NASA and all that and that's one of the places you go to do that and they're like fucking leaders in the field
Starting point is 00:49:45 they're on the bleeding edge and they're great but all that most people think about when you bring them up now is fucking Elon and his shit lord memes and everything he does and that just that just sucks
Starting point is 00:49:57 I just think that sucks is all I'm saying and all those people you talk about who are bringing about space shit should be working for NASA, except NASA doesn't have the money to hire them because they gave all their money to fucking SpaceX. Yes, 100%.
Starting point is 00:50:10 That's exactly the case. Yeah. And Elon as a defense contractor remains a problem, by the way. We did a whole episode about it, so I don't want to rehash old ship, but as far as new stuff going on, I Google what's going on with Starlink in Ukraine, and American media is not cover yet,
Starting point is 00:50:27 but I did find some foreign sources, including one website called BulgarianMilitary.com, So, but the videos were of Ukrainians doing shit. I found some other sources. But again, it's just not in the American media, but it's other, like, this report was in other countries like stuff. I just thought Bulgarian military.com was the funniest source for it. Bulgarian is like a limited democracy and they do hate Russia.
Starting point is 00:50:48 So if that gives you, uh, helps you weigh their credibility, they're a member of NATO. So, uh, analysts suggested Ukraine's latest Polansia kamikaze drone could significantly impact Russia, particularly if Elon Musk permits the use of Starlink for effective. offensive operations or attacks in Russian territory because he's not doing that. His, as the loan actor, is deciding to limit Ukraine's military capabilities.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Right. And we're still paying him to do that, not just through SpaceX, but through Starlink, which is a subsidiary of SpaceX. So he shouldn't be a defense contractor, and we should be nationalizing his company or forcing a sell-off. If you don't want to privatize it, forcing him to sell it to Bezos or somebody
Starting point is 00:51:31 because he's a fucking menace. All right. He's not trustworthy. He doesn't have America's best interests at heart. I'm not saying that just because he's an immigrant here. There are a lot of very loyal people who moved here from overseas because he love America. He just fucking hates the idea of America as a liberal multicultural democracy. No, he shouldn't be no, you know, as Kanye said, another brilliant man.
Starting point is 00:51:51 No one man should have all that power, you know. But yeah, no, like you said, it's like, oh, but that's un-American. That's anti-capitalist, whatever, just takes somebody's company away from him. That you built. I don't fuck that. First of all, whatever. You can pay him. You can give him enough money to have as many yachts as he ever wants to have.
Starting point is 00:52:06 He already has that much money anyway. He'll be fine. He's never going to struggle. He's always going to be completely fine. And it's just some of this shit should not be in the hands of one person. Like you said, like Ukraine's military, a whole other country that's being invaded by one of our biggest enemies, their military capabilities should not be hamstrung by the whims of one. one fucking, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:34 apartheid era, South African billionaire lunatic named Elon Musk. I don't care about capitalism or how to market presented itself or whatever. That just should not happen. He's got enough money to fuck off somewhere. We should, like, make him fuck off somewhere. That's what we should do. If Henry Ford had said, I'm not building jeeps
Starting point is 00:52:53 to the U.S. military during World War II, instead, I'm going to make them for the German government, which he was affectionate towards. FDR would have fucking killed him and taken his company. Abso-fucking lately. All right. So it's not about... You're hitting for me to not, Mark.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Yeah. This is not just about capitalism versus managed capitalism or late-state capitalism or whatever, what kind of economy you want to live in. It's like whether a country has any interest in fucking surviving. Right. Because like, like no other country would let themselves be sabotaged from within. If you could make up, I've literally met a comic once who built up a small, like, fleet of a hundred ice cream trucks in China, but ice cream trucks didn't exist in China.
Starting point is 00:53:30 China before that and the government of China took all them ice cream trucks. It was like, you can get the fuck out. Round-eye, we run this shit now. I'm not saying we should be entirely like China. No. Any other country fucking just wouldn't stand for this shit. Imagine
Starting point is 00:53:46 those ice cream trucks rode around the streets of Beijing or wherever. We're tanks instead of ice cream trucks and they were controlled by the U.S. military. That's more of an apt metaphor of what's going on. All right. So like, like, it's just like, And even if you think subcontracting is the better way to do things, it should not be with him.
Starting point is 00:54:05 So it should be another contractor. And they should force us, like, his, the U.S. government should cut off contracts at a minimum until his board forces a hiring of a new CEO. All right. So, because Elon's being sued because when he fired a bunch of people from Twitter at slash X or whatever, he didn't pay them proper severance. So the results of that lawsuit, the opposing counsel got a hold of a list of people who actually owned Twitter who, the people who supplied the money for Elon. to build it with. It's real like, you know, patchwork of losers and psychos, including Bill Ackman, Puff Daddy, Puff Daddy owns part of Twitter for some reason, Larry Ellis, and also
Starting point is 00:54:42 his Royal Highness, Prince Al-Aul-Bin-A-Law-Bin-A-Ziz, Al-Sluid, if you're not familiar with him. He's a member of the Saudi royal family, although he was, when MBS took power, he was imprisoned in the Ritz Carlton and in their yacht until he handed over $6 billion to the crown prince. So it's not clear where he got the money to invest in Twitter because he's no longer listed on Forbes billionaire list, but he must have gotten some money back from somewhere. He's the guy on the right with the big eyebrows if you're watching the feed.
Starting point is 00:55:10 He's mostly known for his eyebrows. But anyway, it's not just like whatever's going on Ukraine, Twitter being in the pocket of somebody connected to the Saudi royal family who might be a carve-out for MBS while dissidents are being rounded up in Saudi Arabia for posting political tweets on X seems problematic to me, but whatever. I'm just a person who actually believes in free speech, unlike Elon Musk. Also, there's some Russian oligarchs who own chunks of Twitter, which might be impacting partially Elon's views about what's happening with the war in Ukraine and his views on the Russian
Starting point is 00:55:47 government. Two people who own a chunk of it are Dennis Avon and Jack Moskowitz, who are the sons of Russian oligarchs Peter Avon and Vadim Moskowitz. If you're not familiar with how Russia operates, you can't be a Russian oligieg. can not be, you get to have money in Russia through two ways. Either Putin gives it to you or Putin lets you have it. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:09 So, like, the idea that these guys are, their families operating independently from Putin seems weird to me because they're still alive. Because Putin will famously kill you even overseas if he disagrees with what Russian Acts are doing with their money. Peter Avon, by the way, unsuccessfully sued media outlets and the Hillary Clinton campaign because he was accused of drug running in the newspaper and also he showed up in the steel dossier and he lost
Starting point is 00:56:34 those lawsuits so it's not his first time being accused of being a dirtbag but as far as the technical capacities of SpaceX SpaceX tried a launch today of the kind of vehicle that would be sent to the space station to get these astronauts back
Starting point is 00:56:50 and it was delayed because they had problems with a helium leak which is the exact same fucking problem that the Boeing Starliner had. The brilliance of capitalism now has two separate private companies spending government private companies spending government money in competition to see who can have the biggest helium leaks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Yeah. I don't know. I'm helium dumb. Maybe that's a real complicated part of the process for all I know. You know what I mean? If they're both fucking that up. Maybe it's hard to keep helium where you want it. I mean, big balloon seems to have figured it out.
Starting point is 00:57:25 but yeah i don't even know what helium does in a space shuttle like maybe the astronauts just like to have funny voices in the call back to earth like they've been occupied by an alien being or something yeah it's a morale booster so the part that made me mad about this is being mad about the government no longer being in control of space travel because the things we all used to be proud of this mission during this mission the polaris dawn crew will attempt to reach heights higher than humans have traveled since nasa's apollo program in the 70s NASA astronauts haven't been this high in the 70s. It's now been 50 years since the 70s,
Starting point is 00:58:02 and we just stopped being able to do shit we used to be able to do. Tell me about it. I've lamented it as long as I've been old enough to understand it. I've lamented it. It's one of the biggest mistakes this country's ever made as far as I'm concerned. We could be so much further along than we are right now, if not for that. And to add insult to injury to this, there's no plan I can see among anyone or any political agitation to, like, claw some of this back and bring it back internally.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Like, NASA just gave SpaceX a contract because the ISS has almost run out of its lifespan and needs to be brought down to Earth in 2030. They gave SpaceX the contract to destroy the international space station. $843 million that we could have spent, I don't know, build a new space station. And the plans to replace it with nine, right now, Earth's governments and companies have plans to replace it with nine space stations. I think five or six of them are going to be American base, but they're all going to be controlled by Elon Musk's, Jeff Bezos,
Starting point is 00:59:00 Lockheed Martin, and North of Grumman. I don't know why Lockheed Martin wants a space station, but I don't want them to fucking have it. And by the way, if Elon can successfully get a rocket to bring these astronauts home to the space station, another comical fuck-up of this iteration of capitalism, they probably will not be wearing spacesuits. They're two different kinds of space suits.
Starting point is 00:59:24 The one you use your spacewalks and the one you use for flight suits, right? The suits they took with them to fly on the star ladder are not compatible with the SpaceX rocket. So because the way capitalism works, because it doesn't work based upon the best competition anymore, it's based upon locking in your customers and the systems they don't want, they can't escape.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Right. They can't share information. We don't even know why they're going to. compatible because it's proprietary information. They cannot tell us why a SpaceX suit, a Star Ladder suit can't hook into a SpaceX rocket because it's proprietary, even though the government's paying the bills for all this shit.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Right. No, it's because it all has to be SpaceX certified. That way you need SpaceX to do everything because things won't work if they're not all SpaceX compatible, or however to fuck it works. But Apple tries to do the same shit, but the EU just recently forced Apple to finally put a regular goddamn charging port on their fucking iPhones over there, by the way, which is exactly what
Starting point is 01:00:28 should fucking happen, because they shouldn't be allowed to do that shit in the first place. And the fact that that's happening, our space program is horseshit. Right. And it's like, and like, so the reason you wear the flight suits is because it decreases risk of like, like, death. If there's a fire or sudden depressurization, yada, yada, yada. So like, Matt texted me this joke. I want to give him credit for it.
Starting point is 01:00:49 The same forces that make it impossible to open a Windows file on a Mac are going to get these fucking astronauts killed. Exactly. Yes. So it's just maddening. Nationalize all the space shits, start building, rebuilding American heroes
Starting point is 01:01:03 to people that go to the fucking moon and rock out with the cocks out while fucking Led Zeppin play songs and we make Michael Bay movies about it instead of abandon them in fucking space and leave it until a goddamn private company to get all the credit for it. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:17 American flag on Mars, God damn it, while class is that's what I won't. I didn't expect to get us fired up during this episode as I did when I knew what we were going to be talking about, but I mean, I should have because space is my shit. But anyway, thank you y'all for watching. I appreciate it. Go to Treycrowder.com.
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