Weekly Skews - Weekly Skews – Assassination Nation

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Today we talk about the trial of the guy who tried to kill then-candidate Trump last summer. No not that guy, the other one. He’s decided to represent himself, and started off his case by challenging Trump to trial by combat. Then we get into the latest on the killing of Charlie Kirk and the revelation, after a week of FBI flopsweat, that the killer seemingly knew a trans person.Support the show

what's up everybody welcome back is once again skews day you know at least where you're coming from you're watching this uh on tuesday september 16th 2025 uh we are recording this coming to you from monday september 15th at about 130 p.m on the left coast that's where we are in space and time as we sit down to record this missive to y'all in the skew universe this is weekly skews i'm trey that's mark mark how you doing how you're hanging in there like that hat thanks buddy just enjoying my birthday as it is you know yeah i was i was gonna like i was gonna say everybody wish mark happy birthday whatever but i didn't know i didn't it wouldn't surprise me if you were like all right can we go back from the can we take that from the top like you know i don't want anybody

know it's my fucking birthday i don't want to i don't want to deal with happy birthday messages and fucking, you know, I thought you might respond that way, so I decided I just wouldn't say anything. But yeah, happy birthday. Thanks, boy. Yeah, we're going to have some, an interesting show today. We talked about, you know, the Charlie Kirk shooting on Friday show, the bonus episodes. We're not going to rehash all that, but we were going to talk about the latest developments, in which case they, you know, seem to have sort of settled on a theory of the case that involves motive, but they don't have a motive. They're just kind of spitballing. But before we get to that, since a lot of what we're talking about today is the competence and trustworthiness of Cash Patel's FBI, I want to talk about this before we get to the show.

Some FBI agents in Billings, Montana, had a dilemma, and that is that they had two pounds of methamphetamine they need to get rid of. But luckily for them, the town has an animal shelter, which has a furnace, so they had the bright idea to burn the two pounds of methamphetamine in the animal hospital's furnace, in the animal shelter, sorry. and you'll never guess all the dogs and cats got super high on meth along with the 14 people who worked there so

cops had moved on meth there's got to be fucking that's got to be a sane right there I think of wild Jesse Pickman is a cat as you guys got going on there

I'm just excited that cops have moved on from shooting dogs to get him a high on crystal so let me quote here from the shelter executive director her name's Trinity Halverson that said she was unaware

the drug burn happening. I can firmly and confidently say that as the executive director, I did not know they were disposed of extremely dangerous narcotics on site. So they snuck in the animal shelter to burn this meth, I guess. So the whole team got exposed. And this is basically what happens when you fire everyone at the, like, RIF, everyone at the FBI with an IQ over 80. Some of the staff were exposed to smoke for more than an hour. The impact of animals were given veterinary care and placed in temporary housing, including four litters of kittens

who were being closely monitored because they were closed in a room with a smoke. Four litters of kittens. So basically they've created a kitten army to steal your copperware and catalytic converters. Jesus Christ. I have a hard time getting in the minds of these people because, like, American police have gaslit themselves

into getting panic attacks every time they come in contact with fentanyl because they think that like merely touching fentanyl, will be enough to kill you instantly. Yeah. All those videos. I know you've showed them on here before of some cop having like a very over the top, you know,

freak out session very dramatically because, oh, that's fentanyl in there and acting like they're going to die and stuff and everything. But they just like take a couple trash bags full of meth and chucking in the fireplace with all the family pets and everybody, all their loved ones in the room with them with no ventilation. and stuff, like, I should be fine. Yeah, in an enclosed space.

Yeah, and so basically, like, the shelter's uninhabitable for like a month, so, like, they just completely ruin all these people's lives for the next few weeks or whatever for no fucking, I don't know. You've got to be a better way to get rid of meth in Montana. Right.

At least they aren't selling it, I guess. Yeah, that's what I'm surprised. Yeah, that wasn't the move. What do they normally, what, I mean, what, what is the normal move? It goes into, like, evidence, I guess, right, until the case is closed and then they just, they sell it and keep all

the money sometimes. Obviously, I'm sure that happens. But otherwise, you know, what is it? Like an approved incineration, you know, facility for these types of disposition efforts? Their defense themselves, they've burned drugs to get rid of them at this specific facility before, I guess, whatever way they did it, they forgot to open a window or something. I don't know. It's all too stupid. You're right. I think they usually do burn it, but they burn it differently. Right.

Yeah. All right. Well, let's get into it. But before we do, of course, I've got some, you know, some business to take care of. As always, if y'all want to send me to stand up, well, I have it in person, which I just got back from, four days in upstate New York and Connecticut. It was interesting time. But a good time. It was fun.

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We answer your burning questions. So get some more skews in your life, consider it. All right. As for the show tonight, we're going to be talking about, you know, just all the continuing ongoing fallout of the past few days and where we're at with all that, like motive, without motive and everything, as Mark already referred to up top. We'll get to that in a little bit.

First, we begin, as we always do, with the Daily Dumbass. Matt, graphic, please. Tonight's D.D., judges who've never heard of defendants pleading not guilty by reason of being too sane. In court today, the 59-year-old shackled at the wrist and ankles calmly told Judge Eileen Kanna, and he wanted to dismiss his court-reported its attorneys. When Cannon asked if you wanted her to assign two. two more, he said, I will represent myself. Cannon quiz Ruth on his background. He said he has a GED, two years of engineering at UNC, and has only ever defended himself in traffic cases.

Okay. So this is the trial of attempted Trump assassin, Ryan Ruth, who was the guy, he's the guy that tried to shoot him on the golf course. Oh, well, you didn't get any shots off because the Secret Service agent saw him and he shot at him, and they drove away and they caught him. You remember talking about. Dude, it's so crazy that I honestly had kind of forgot that that one even happened. Like, obviously, I remember the one in Butler or whatever. But yeah, I mean, I do remember this now that it has been brought back up, but I had, like, completely forgotten that there was, you know, a second, you know, thwarted at her failed assassination attempt on Trump last year. It's fucking, yeah. So I do want to thank Judge Eileen Cannon for letting

him represent himself because he's going to get some good content out of it. So let me quote here as his trial started last week. Introductory statements are typically used to preview evidence and arguments for the rest of the trial. But Mr. Roos were dedicated to his philosophical musings on intent, the history of human evolution,

the quote, need to be kind to one another, and the beauty found in hearthstones worn smooth by generations of children. He invoked Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Putin and declared, quote, modern trials seem to eliminate all that is human. So, yeah, it's like, what should we all just hug and go home?

It's defense. Those quotes sound like the general type of things I would have expected a guy like that to say or be into, meaning like, you know, he seems well put together, obviously, like, very cogent, clear-headed. You would expect a guy who decided to single-handedly to try to alter the course of the history of the United States to be a little bit of a narcissist, but even he goes a little bit over at the top. I can, if her part, had to interrupt him a bunch of times to remind him a proper procedure and, quote, reprimand in for quote making a mockery of this court it must really hit for judges and lawyers

they could do TV law drama shit yeah well especially that isn't she the like soup like trump's like right hand judge for one of them like she's very very yeah she was uh team trump so based on just that i'm i would assume she also fucking loves attention and fucking you know circus antics and shit shows and stuff would be my right she's a very up to get Yes. She's a very young by the standards of those things, like movement lawyer who was like rushed onto the bench after Trump lost in 2020. And is like, yeah, she's the one that did a bunch of things. Every lawyer and judge in the country was looking outside to get like make sure Trump got away with the documents case. Right. Right. So the guy, Ruth, let me feel in a little more of his vibe. Canada previously rejected his proposed questions to prospective jurors in the case, calling them quote very much off. base and an irrelevant. The questions canon said included queries about pro-Palestinian studio activism and Trump's support for a U.S. takeover of Greenland, obviously very important to a criminal trial in Florida.

Prosecutors planned to show the jury at least one letter, Ruth purported the missive address, quote, Dear World and allegedly included in a box left with an acquaintance months before the incident and began, this was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump, but I'm so sorry I failed you. So I guess he figured that it would only be read if he was bad. dead after trapped or failing to kill Trump, which I don't need, like, why even go to, yeah, I mean, just fucking plead guilty. They don't, they don't, they didn't actually shoot anybody. It's still don't have a death penalty case. Like, you're going to get found guilty.

Yeah, well, I figured a guy like this in his mind, he thinks he's going to, this is his chance, you know, to, like, whatever, get his message out there, captivate the hearts and minds of the people or whatever or just, you know, kind of, influence some form. of change, I think. Obviously, no, that's going to happen. I'm saying I bet that that's probably what he thinks or something. Or even if it's just like, I have to be able to tell my story or who the fuck knows. But you know what I mean? Yeah. He's wild. He's a little crazy. So like, you know. He proposed a prisoner swap where the Trump administration trade him for somebody to either China or Taiwan or, uh, Iran. But like, his previous history is like protesting for like vulnerable democracies like Ukraine and Taiwan, so I'm not sure why he wants to go to China, considering he supports Taiwan. I guess he wants to be tortured by them instead of us.

Ruth also tried to call an old girlfriend as a character witness, quote, the unnamed lover would apparently attest to Ruth's peacefulness because he refused to spank her ass. I mean, you can follow that. You follow that logic. yeah if you don't want to smack you know smack a girl's ass then you probably won't want to shoot a person yeah I just imagine like like if I like a like if I like a like I was charged with a murder where like somebody had like wiped down the scene with their fingerprints like calling my wife he'd like never fucking clean up after himself that good yeah right yeah uh fucking another aspect of this like a lot of his briefs are like written on old like uh like basically

he had to sue to get himself a typewriter because they're not like allow computers in prison. He followed an extremely unhinged motion where he challenged Trump to a fight. Quote, give me shackles and cuffs and let the old fat man give it his worst. Then he asked for strippers before challenging Trump to golf.

If he wins, he can execute me. If I win, I get his job. So we're doing, like, he wants access to strippers in prison. He wants to challenge Trump to trial by combat. And if he won't, Trump would submit to that. He wants to challenge him to trial by golf. Yeah.

And if he wins, he gets to be president. But, you know, this guy sounds like he's got some good ideas. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, Mark. Like, you know, he might as well. He's like, what's the worst that can happen? They say no. That's, you know, might as well ask if I can have strippers and combat golf with the sitting president or whatever for my freedom. But, yeah, I don't know.

It's always been kind of a wild thing to me that, that, I mean, it makes, I get it. I get how it's like your right to represent yourself if that's what you want to do. but it's like, has there ever once been a case of that going well or working out, you know? There must have. I just can't think a while off the top of my head. But yeah, it's like this. Like, usually it's a circus. Yeah, you want to, in general, if you want to, you know, a good solid defense case,

what do you want to do is like dispassionately and effectively dismantle the state's case or poke holes in it, not angrily rant about your inner. Because that's not really going to work. Yeah, I mean, what's the old expression? The lawyer represents himself as a fool for a client. Like, even professional lawyers don't do this for a reason. Right. Yeah, it's hard to look at yourself clearly in the mirror.

It turns out even for people who go to old school, do it. All right. So let's talk about the continued fallout of the murder of Charlie Kirk. Here's Eric Trump on Fox News over the weekend. There's a whole level of unreality happening here. disconnected from the case entirely, and I just wanted to talk about that for a little bit. Well, I mean, Erica right there was so powerful. I watched the entire thing.

I couldn't believe her strength and her courage. You know, there was that famous quote right after Pearl Harbor. You know, I think we've just awoken a sleeping giant and filled him with terrible resolve. And it kind of rings true here. That's exactly what you did. And literally, as I was showing up to this studio, Maria, there was an older Jamaican man who came up to me in very broken English and said, Mr. Trump, I'm very sorry about Charlie Kirk. He was an amazing Christian. I am Charlie Kirk, right?

It transcended. Jamaican came up into it in Brooklyn English. Do you want to guess what's language they speak in Jamaica, Trey? Yeah, it is English. Look, I'm sure that's probably bullshit or whatever, but there's other things wrong with it, too, i.e., like, that guy's clearly an immigrant, right? You know, or whatever, in New York, like, that don't hit for them in general, you know, but he claims this particular immigrant loves Charlie Kirk, so, you know, he's on board with it.

So there's a lot of dumb bullshit happening with that. quote for sure. But I mean, dude, you've heard, they speak a patois of English, a lot of them do. And if you're as white as Eric Trump, you barely, you ain't going to recognize that as even being English probably. I would imagine. Fair enough. I'm just like, everyone with personal security is even tangentially related to politics right now, like they're, they're on super high alert. I just don't think they would let a random guy walk up to Eric Trump. Right. Right. Again, I'm sure it is bullshit either way. So I don't like, this is not, we talked about. the killing a lot. I don't want to repeat ourselves, but like, murdering people's bad.

It doesn't mean you need to lie about all this stuff that Kirk said up the course of his career. It's just not necessary. It's also like the level of that disproportionate here. Like there was a point over the story over the weekend where like the top eight stories in New York Times website were all about Charlie Kirk. And it starts to start to be like this thing as a way because like I know we follow this stuff closely, but is he a bit, is he that is it like when Tupac died or something? Like, did I miss something? So I went to found like this Harvard youth survey back from the spring.

And, you know, it's about a poll of various public figures with like young people, people under like 21, which I guess we would theoretically was this target demographic. I know it wasn't that. I know he was a target demographic to like entertain older people. But like 46% of those kids had never heard of them, which is less. than more people never heard of him than had heard of Theo Vaughn, all right? More people had heard of him than have heard of Theo Vaughn? Is that what you said?

Had not. More people had heard of Theo Vaughn. Okay. So, for a frame of reference, 3% of those people had never heard of Donald Trump, which really was... Right. Yeah. So... I just don't... You know, I wonder what that... Again, and I remember saying some version of this

on the Patreon episode Friday, but it's just like... I feel like a lot of that also... It's like... I don't know what the standard is anymore, because we don't have like a monoculture and shit the way they're used to like i don't know what that number means because there's dude there's like massive fucking pop stars active right now i guarantee you that i have no idea who the fuck they are but they sell out fucking stadiums and all kinds of shit you know and it's like just because the fact that i don't know they are does that mean they're not famous or whatever right so like you know i don't know there is a there's

definitely that going on but but in a frame of reference where like the the the most monoculture, the extent we have one, is making this the biggest... You wonder, like, I understand it's because a lot of these people knew him personally. It's also because it's like a 9-11, 4, like, 9-11 kind of popped a bubble where Americans were walking around and feeling safe from, like, large-scale attacks, and then all of a sudden we didn't feel that way anymore, right? All these people who felt like they were completely untouchable, one of them got killed, and now they're all scared.

I understand that. It's like, but the rest of us walk around vulnerable all the time. but like that like okay so there's a there's a thing happening on a conservative internet right now where a bunch of people are spending their time driving around their towns looking for businesses that don't have their flags at half mass posting pictures and snitch tag in those companies or harassing the employees i'm talking about like a chase bank in fargo north to cargo right this lady posted a story on x twitter or whatever you want to call it where according to her she saw in all I think it was either advanced auto parts in AutoZone, didn't have their flag lowered.

She marched in angrily, confronted, demanded to see the manager in front of him and asked him why they didn't have the flag lowered for Charlie Kirk. And his answer to her sincerely was who. And she stormed out crying. Right. And I'm like, that guy spent the weekend mowing his grass. And like the, like, the, like, say, so like, like, that poll, I was just citing, like, Charlie Kirk had a net negative favorable, unfaithable rating, but that doesn't even mean what you think of it is, because even people that disagree, agree with your politics are going to find it annoying to talk.

There's probably people out there who absolutely agree with a bunch of stuff Charlie Kirk said, who listened to like Barstools college football coverage instead. Oh, dude. I mean, how many things we ain't got to name names or nothing, but how many like, you know, leftist public figures on the left? can you think of offhand that you're you know you find fucking annoying or that you're not you know a real big fan of like a ton so yeah that obviously you know dude half the liberal leftist internet i'll read i'll read their shit and be like i agree with you but shut the fuck yeah yeah um like but like we're just the level of pretending here like so ted cruz spent the weekend doing this if you got this image matt so a per

Ted Cruz, someone spray painted, fuck Charlie Kirk on an overpass in Houston. And he went out there with a roller and painted over it. Do we think someone, whoever is doing street art in Houston, what are the odds? They know who they know who is. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, they do this stuff all the time. Like, there's the guy who painted Black's rule in his driveway or whatever. It's like, maybe somebody did that.

I don't know. But, like, if I'm Charlie, if I'm Charlie Kirk or Charlie's family and I see Ted Cruz doing that, this all feels very vulgar. Dude, that's what I could buy that someone tagged that just because, but the, but the, but Ted Cruz himself going out there and having a picture taken of him scrubbing it off is just like grossly performative and obviously so. And it's just, it's just very in keeping for Ted Cruz, you know, it's lucky for him he wasn't, he didn't happen to be on the Amalfi coast or somewhere when this. You know, when the people of Houston needed him desperately, he was actually there for this one with his wagey in hand. He posted video of him doing it. And like, I'd like, look, I forgot to pull the video, but like, I mean, just say his form,

like it was like if my mom was doing it. And I say that as a person who looks really embarrassing when I swing a hammer. So I'm not even like, this isn't even really a personal critique. But like, he didn't clean it off. He painted over it with bigger, wider, a bigger, worse patch. So, yeah, the message. was gone, but he just, he did a bigger form of vandalism. So

he didn't matter. He won't get a ticket. It doesn't matter. But yeah, so the bulk I want to talk about is like, they're trying to blame this on trans people. They spent, like, so let's watch this video if you got this next one out. A friend that's roommate slash partner

is, you know, transitioning and the transgender movement just seems to be extremely problematic these days. And many of the mass shootings that were seeing in this instance, it was the assassination nation of Charlie Kirk. All right. So unfortunately, this always seems to come up

the last few years. There have been a few cases involving trans people involved in like sort of shootings or high profile attacks. But it's very, unfortunately, we, for our country, we have a decent size, sample size of both mass shootings and high profile killings. Yeah, I mean, this just, I mean, this literally just came up, what, two weeks ago or whatever in Minnesota.

Like that, that was actually. a trans person right that time or was that even that was it like it was a person who had detransitioned who was mad about oh right that's right yeah I remember now yeah they had been trans but then we're like well yeah

but then we're detrans anyway whatever so even that's like you know iffy but yeah but then the whole thing they treated that like you know we don't have a gun problem or a mass shooting problem we have a trans problem and it's like you know trans people make up less than 1%

or whatever it is or 0.1% or of all mass shooting and stuff. But yeah, we just went through all that, again, which that wasn't the first time any of that had been brought up either.

But it just happened. And now, of course, it's just always trans people. The Minneapolis one, at least there was, like, like a, you know,

depending if you want to include it in a storyline, there is an element that involves, you know. But, but they remember the most famous one was the Denver guy who shot up the gay bar whose lawyer was just trolling trying to get him out of the death penalty

and being like, we can't have committed a hate crime because he identifies as trans. Right? That's just doing a bit. Like he never. that's not even remotely, you know. But anyway, like I said, we have a decent sample size of thousands of mass shootings in recent years.

Five are known to have been committed by transgender people. So roughly the percentage of the population they are, which is basically kind of what you'd expect. But like, over the past week in this story, like it's changed so many times. At first they said the shooter was trans, that turned out not to be trans. Then they said the bullets had transgender, the bullets were trans, the bullets had transgender ideology on them. We talked about that on Friday. No, they didn't. It's like they missed her studio video game references.

Have they come around on that, though? like yeah so they have since admitted that like the the cover like they being fox news and whoever else right wing media they've acknowledged that they had that wrong that's a they just stop talking about it but like but like but like when spencer cox went on t uh went on tv a couple times he's the good the republican governor of utah talked about it so like so basically they moved either moved stop talking about it or admitted that they had nothing with about the bullets anything to do with anything trans now they're saying that his roommate is trans

but last week you lived in home and didn't have a roommate also like they're saying they're romantically involved and that part I'm not sure where they're getting from because like the roommate does seem

to like be doing gender right in some level whatever but like they also have another roommate like what's that guy's deal why isn't he part of the motive and also like to the degree that the roommate is involved in this at all

they've been fully cooperated with the Florida so like the involvement of a trans person here well is helping solve it. the case also like the I don't know the idea it's like look this guy this guy's got a trans girlfriend or trans partner or however they would put it's like you know what's that tell you or whatever like that immediately like this just keep trying to like bring him back to like whatever he's he was being you know radicalized by leftism or leftist ideas or something

like he was when he went to college or it's got oh he's got this trans girlfriend what kind of shit you think she's putting in his ears or whatever they're like implying but it's like I pulling this kind of out of my ass I just know that I've heard over the years that like like trans porn is like the most oft searched porn amongst like conservative dudes or in conservative states or like the Bible Belt and shit like that so it's like even if all that is true that don't that literally don't mean anything as far as like him being like a groper or a different type of right wing nut like even if he has a secret trans girlfriend like that isn't even really off brain. for them if you, you know, know anything about how they move in the shadows or whatever. It's not even really that surprising, even if it is true. I think Nick Fuenik Fuentes, you know, the leader of the Groyper's does, like, a regular podcast stream with a person who identifies as a transferee or something. It's like, it's like all this stuff is so, like, you don't need to make, people be out

there doing stuff. You don't really make sense of it. That's fine. But like the argument, a bunch of people seem to be arguing sincerely that he can't, he can't be concerned. And again, we don't know the mode is motive for politics. or anything like that. He's an extremely online person.

He seems to have left no fucking paper trail, what seems weird, or post trail. But they seem to be arguing that, like, he can't be conservative because he has a secret trans girlfriend. Like, that's exactly who would have a secret trans girlfriend. Yeah, right, exactly.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Right. Yeah. They also, like, like, so Spencer Cox always said he was, like, influenced, or, quote, had leftist ideology, to my Tyler Robbins in the shooter here.

But we're talking about Utah. We're like, it's like, left wing there to to say that, like, Jesus didn't ride dinosaurs with a saddle on them. So, like, what are you talking about? And you, just to catch people up that aren't patrons

and not catch them entirely up, but you were, you know, sort of, where it seemed to be, like, the direction it seemed to be pointing in when we talked about this on the bonus episode on Friday, it was all these, like, things that were carved in the bullets and what little pieces we had that they were reading as being anti-Antifa or whatever,

were actually like deep internet rabbit hole groiper shit nick foentes and that type of thing who had beef with charlie kirk and all that is that like does that i know that i know we don't know anything for sure but like has any of that changed do you know what i mean like no to you is it still seem to be that seems the most likely you know so what i got it down lower we were talking about like to tyler robinson his own words a little bit where like we had group chats the group Discord chats with his high school buddies, where he seemed very normie politically. But, like, I don't know what to make of that. But, yeah, there's stuff you're talking about.

Like, he wore a Pepe costume for Halloween. And what was it? Wasn't a Pepe Mean? It was an all right thing. Which could just be in that meme culture. The bullets, like, we're doing video game references. And, like, one that said, fascist, hey, catch, which seemed pretty straightforward. Maybe it is, right?

But also, that's a video game reference. And Nick Fuentes also has repeatedly said, we're living under Jewish fascism and hated Charlie Kirk from being anti-white race trader. Right. And there was that song, that anti-fat, that Bella Chow or whatever the song, the Italian song that's supposed to be, that it is originally anti-fascist, but it's used ironically or became ironically co-opted by, again, Groyper's and shit. It appears on Groyper playlist and stuff because they passed through from video games.

But like, yeah, so like you don't, to some sense, like, you can try to make sense of this or just give up, making sense of it. Like, it seems straightforwardly, Robinson seems straightforwardly guilty as far is what we know, but like, we also, of course, we need to figure out the motives so we can start blaming each other, even though none of us did anything. So,

so Cox appears to be getting his information about the roommate transitioning from the FBI, which is problematic for reasons we'll come back to in a little bit. But like, I don't know where they're getting that they're romantically involved. I don't know who the source is for that. Maybe it's the roommate. The roommate's their own interesting person.

But, yeah, Fox was the first to report that the roommate was trans. And then they based upon a high-level anonymous FBI source. But the reporter Fox, who tweeted that never actually got around to writing up the article. Maybe her bosses didn't that sourcing was firm enough. But Cash Patel screencapped her post and then tweeted it out as if he's not the high-level anonymous FBI source, quoting himself being passed through a reporter. you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah.

So where does it come from? You got to believe this. It's in the newspaper. I told the newspaper this anonymous. It's like, Jesus fucking Christ. And the last few days, like all this, it's like a game of telephone with three people playing with each other. And maybe, again, I'm open to being to proof of whatever the guy's motive is, but like,

I don't see it here. So they, the FBI is saying that Kirk's views on gender identity were, quote, hateful to people like Robinson's roommate, a six sources. familiar with the case tell axios the six sources familiar with the case all cited the same FBI officials so the six sources are short are quoting other people at the FBI who might all be the same person right and like this all this is all basically the head cannon of cash Patel and we're all just have to like live in this reality it's like these actual like journalists and and and law enforcement officials and stuff are all just like playing telephone with each other or something

and, you know, no actual sources to be found. But it doesn't matter. You know, what they said about the truth can make it all the way around the world before a lie gets down the block or something like that? Yeah. Gets its shoes on. Gets its shoes on. That's what it is, I think.

I've heard, I've heard, shoes and pants before, yeah, that's probably cool. But, yeah, so, like, what you're talking about, like, it seems to be a problem to me that, like, a bunch of cops and journalists all seem to believe that don't even understand it's possible for their sources. to say things they don't mean or fully believe? Like, it's like we live in the, you've ever seen the movie The Invention of Lying? Mm-hmm, yeah.

That movie had a lot of potential, not to turn this into a movie critiquing podcast, but I thought that movie started out really strong and it was a great, like, premise for a movie in it, but Ricky Jervais did Ricky Jervais shit to the second half of that movie, in my opinion. But anyway, go ahead. First half's hilarious, but...

Yeah, I thought it was, I thought it was, I thought it was like thought it was like thought it would be like if only one guy could lie. Obviously, he'd be kidding. of the world, right? Yeah. So, so the Daily Mail, which of course, they're, they're fucking rag, but since everyone's sort of doing this right now, I thought I'd, like, go with it. So the headline of this piece is trans partner, partners in air quotes of Charlie Kirk's suspect, quote, praise Joe Biden, that's in air quotes too, before conservative activists was shot,

as linked to bizarre furry lifestyle revealed. Now, Robinson apparently did have a username on like a chat board. There were people talking about furry stuff or did furry stuff. And one of the meme. One of the quotes he carved into a bullet was a reference to a meme about furriers from 2015 when he was like 12 years old. All right. So the person we're talking about the roommate, um, daily male used their name, the name Lance Twigs, but I guess I'm not sure if like, I'm not sure where they're at with that gender stuff. I'm not trying to like, you know, again, Lance didn't do anything wrong. He just had a roommate. Right. So as a want to be pro gamer, which Lance,

wants to be famous, which you should, like, everybody should involve with this. Should recognize that as part of this story. He was posting in a forum called the, uh, uh, was it called the Love for Landlord subreddit, which is inherently ironic, okay. Yeah. Um, so that's where all these quotes come from, but their source for the fact that Lance is trans is they go, they go here. It is quote, now been wildly reported that Twigs is transitioning genders.

What has been widely reported? What is the sourcing for that? Mm-hmm. It's just the same shit that you're talking about, isn't it? Yeah. Like, yeah, the, like, cyclical FBI sources close to whatever, and it also needs to point back to the same thing, which, you know. Trey, it's been widely reported on the internet that you're secretly Jewish and doing a character.

Mm-hmm. Right? So, they also, like, so I've said, quit before that Robinson apparently posts on, like, some sort of furry forum, but, like, also, like, people, do sexual pleasure stuff to themselves to all kinds of stuff that doesn't mean they identify as part of a community, right?

Like, I don't know a single person identifies as a babysitter, for example. But like, so they seem to be saying that, like, they're saying that Lance was also a furry because one of their, avies and one of their social media accounts is this picture, which is just Lance wearing footy pajamas with a hood

that appears to be either a panda bear or raccoon. that are you serious like meaning are you serious that that is the sole basis for the claim that that person is a furry yeah because you see fucking i see people with in airports walking around with those fucking things on those animal onesies or whatever all the goddamn time and in my head it's always been like uh these kids today they probably like japanese cartoons that's probably where that comes from you know or whatever like because i've seen actual fairies too and that ain't no You can tell the difference, like pretty, pretty immediately. Like, furries are, you can't, it's hard to mistake a furry for not a furry in my limited experience having run into. Yeah, you're not a fur, like, the publication is like the Daily Mail, you know, all the whole Rupert Murdoch universe, the Fox News or whatever, just exists solely to, like, make old men shake their fist at their fucking monitors and TV speeds. Been that way for a long time now, but yeah, you're, yeah, so what is the fact Lance has pajamas have to do with any of it? Like, it's like, like, you're not a furry just because you wear whimsical pajamas, and it wouldn't matter if Lance was furry. His Lance didn't fucking do anything.

Right. Um, so anyway, back to the... And again, even if the other dude, the guy that did shoot him is, like, in love with Lance or whatever, they had some weird, torrid thing. That also, even if that was the case, that doesn't mean anything about, you know, the origins or motive or, like, psychology of the shooter either. So, like, what is all this shit? It's just like you said, it's like they immediately jumped to, of course, you know, like in the 33 hours where this guy was missing, they were like on the news and shit being like, we will catch the black trans Antifa gang member socialist who did this, you know, whatever, like this far left activist. They said all that before anybody knew anything. And then they kept the actual guy.

And now it's just like all this, anything they can find, it's even like left coded to the fist shaking papaws that watch and consume this stuff. they're just going to run with all that because the fish check and pap balls, the FSP's, they see all this and go like, see, we knew it. You know, knew it the whole time. Told you. Exactly. Explain that. You know. Like, so getting back

to what I was saying a few minutes ago about how like everyone's pretending to not get irony or not get people saying things sarcastic. So the person with the headline of this Daily Mail piece did get it because they put praise Joe Biden in air quotes, okay? So what they're referring to, the person who wrote the article seemed to not get irony. So in the

love for landlord subreddit, which no one loves landlords, so obviously they're fucking lying. Lance posted, We are riding with Biden on this glorious subreddit. I don't know to translate internet for everybody, but that means Lance does not like Joe Biden. Or is ironically

professing support for Joe Biden to be funny. I do want to quote here, Twigs' grandfather, Jerry Twigs, declined to speak about Lance's gender identity. Quote, I don't want to comment on that. I'm not sure what his situation is exactly right now. He's the first, we got a woke Utah pat-ball tray. He's saying, let me check him with Lance where he's in right now.

Before I, before you tell you his pronouns. Oh my God, man, America's fucking crazy place. So this has all been such an insane cluster fuck from the FBI standpoint. They basically take control of this investigation, even though it's a local cron. And they've been trying to backfill this stuff with culture war bullshit, although even though we don't have to, I didn't guess there's a culture war element from one angle or another. no matter what it is. It might be both. He might be a gorper who loves trans people.

That's theoretically possible in our world. Place crazy. So, like, they, so they appeared of, like, the administration of the FBI appeared of gotten lucky that there is a trans person connected to this story, which they seem desperate for, for the usual cultural reasons that we just talked about, but also there's specific reasons we'll get to in a little bit. But to me, it's just funny as fuck. There's just a pure coincidence.

They come him through his life and found a trans acquaintance or roommate or lover or friend or whatever. And they're basically like, does they have anything to do with anything? Who cares? Let's fucking run with it. Right. That's why it's because it'll be taken as, you know, prove for being connected or something by a whole lot of people. And they know that.

So of course they're going to run with it regardless of how much of a, you know, basis in reality there is there or whatever. Yeah. Like, Cash, man, like, I don't know if he'll be employed at the end of the week. He probably back to podcasting. He's got, he's got some congressional hearing. he's facing later this week about whatever the hell is going on in this case, because everyone seems to be mad at him about it. I mean, quote from him today, he went on the news and said this.

He's saying that Tyler Robinson, the shooter, wrote a note where he confessed the shooting before he did it, but the note no longer exists, okay, which you should trust them on. The written note we believe did exist. Evidence of his existence we now have learned existed. Yeah, well, he was also, was it just the one time, or was it? it multiple times that he like claimed that they had the guy and they didn't and then had to be like actually we don't have the guy we're trying to figure it you know as the director of the FBI and it's like I mean he clearly's just very much in over his head not to

mention he always looks like he's you know he's like always looks like he's about to be plowed by a semi truck because while crossing an interstate at night yeah got the deer eyes going on but yeah Robinson was at least the third person they arrested for it in 33 hours um so Patel is not a career investigator. He was a lawyer, okay? Or is a lawyer. So some of this stuff, he should be know, he should know, like he's been all over TV talking about his personal friendship with Charlie Kirk while he's taking personal control and

oversight of the investigation. That's a big no-no. It should not be doing that. You should be, you know, stepping away. What do you call it? What do you, uh... No conflict of interest. You recuse yourself.

Recuse yourself because of the conflict of interest. Yeah. After a person is a controlling investigation, he walked the crime scene himself and said he found evidence of screwdriver. This was like 29 hours after the shooting or whatever. So I don't know whether maybe

it's true. Maybe he did personally find evidence, but you've got all kinds of chain of custody problems there and also like it also who didn't find the screwdriver the first few times they searched the fucking crime scene. He also said on TV today that they have DNA evidence that connects

Robinson to the rifle. I don't think you can get DNA evidence in like four or five days, but like, even then, you can't publicly talk about it because DNA evidence has to be carefully delivered to the jury with specific instructions because it's not like it is on TV. DNA is not just not positive. It's probabilistic, which has to be explained to jury. So that evidence might not be amissible even if it exists anymore because he's poisoned the jury pool. So like, even if Robinson's guilty, you might get off now. That would be insane.

I can't even imagine like if that if he got off on a technicality because of Cash Patel's incompetence. They might have any evidence. Like he immediately stopped cooperating once he took him into custody because they're trying to give him the death penalty. If he was there's the death penalty off the table, he might have confessed and told him why he did it. So, yeah, again, no one can really tell what his motive is.

His grandma, the people run around saying the Antifa stuff pissed off his grandma, because grandma gave an interviewer, which is like, basically arguing the whole family's MAGA. It's like, most of my family member, his grandma's name is Debbie Robinson. She's 69 years old, Utah. Most of my family members are Republican. I don't know any single one who's a Democrat, which, you know, I wouldn't talk to my grandma about politics.

I mean, she brasked me a way, but like, you know, it's not something that comes up. Right. Robinson's parents are registered Republicans. He's not affiliated with other party, and he's never, he's not voted. He's never voted. Right. I mean, isn't it also, even within like, within the world of the whole, like, Groyper angle or whatever possible that it's just like, you know, some version of like,

you know, he did it for the lulls, essentially, or some like weird internet and troll shit where it's like, fuck it, why not? This will, people want to what to think about this. It's like, this is the ultimate troll or however you want to put it. Like, I mean, who the fuck knows with the way people are today? And it's also like when people do these horrific school shootings and shit, it's not always assume some like political messaging involved. It's like they want to be famous, they want attention, they didn't have shit going on in their life, they're deeply disturbed, all these other things that normally lead to these types of actions, like, could very well also be at play here.

It's just that this guy was, you know, a major public figure in the world of politics, and it's very, very charged politically. So people are all searching for this. It has to be this, like, politically motivated, but even that is not necessarily true. It could be just your standard lone wolf school shooter lunatic mentality type thing, you know. If there's a larger thing, take away here for me, if I'm a politician or a public figure, it's that the school shooter meme types, the ones who are talking to each other through these shootings and on message boards and stuff, trying to quote unquote, get the high score, mean to body count and try to leave, they do this in the most epic mean way possible, like in scrabbing wacky memes on the bullets and shit. Right. The, uh, if they, what would strike fear in my heart is the shooters, if they start learning that no one cares about school shootings anymore, because they're too common and this is the way to get. Right.

100%. Absolutely. You know, it's at least occurring to some of them out there who have been mulling it over because it, like, yeah, it, sadly, we don't give any fucks about school shootings in this country anymore. It pretty much become completely just desensitized to them or whatever at this point. And that, but this has, you know, set this country on fire over the past almost week. So, yeah, they're definitely going to take note of that type of thing. And that is scary to think about. It's also like the, the actual accelerationists that are part of like the black pill, like, like, groyper sort of movement.

Like, this has become clear that, like, if you want to actually like accelerate, this is like, like, like, kill right wing politicians. I was just about to say that, too. It's like, also if it's like the whole idea of like, you know, that's a common tropey mode. amongst like people that do types of domestic terrorism or something they think it's going to whatever they want to kick off a race war or whatever but do their own version of like some kind of false flag or something like you said acceleration as shit yes the past six days has shown that this could be a very effective strategy if that's your goal too which is also both of those things both of those implications are really unnerving to think through especially but at least

all the rest of us are generally on the same page about about how we're going to move forward and conduct ourselves, you know, and help prevent something like that from happening. Yeah. No, they're playing right. A lot of people are playing right into the hands of people who want that kind of shit. The, uh, Fuentes is kind of a funny player and all this because, like, he immediately disavowed, like, he apparently, he knew there was a civic possibility the shooter was a raper.

So he immediately disavowed all violence and said he doesn't want you, people, these type of people associate with his movement, which is like, what his whole movement's, that's a part of this is, part of this is just factional. beef settling between the factions even if they're not involved in the shooting is like this Nick Fuentes is a basically his movement's bit the knee to fucking turning points USA and Charlie Kirk sort of movement because of all this um but yeah struggling back to a Patel so and this one reason you know the knives are out for him is like um uh this report came out that while Patel was live tweeting the second incorrect arrest he was at a fancy restaurant in uh in new

York called Rale's an Italian joint that's apparently really hard to get into. Yeah. He had a reservation that he just kept for his good dinner before he went to Utah. Yeah, that's funny. That's kind of like, it's almost like a scene out of like a VE type show or something like that, or the cross between that and American Psycho or something. Because, I mean, I've heard of Rale. It's like, it's a meme how hard it is to get reservation.

That's just like a, you know, like, I don't know. That's funny. Yeah. So, another thing bears. thing for i mean the internet like these these people are on is always going to be ahead of them for a little bit but like the effect their inability to put catch up to it is sort of like wild to me like um so robinson was on it was in a discord group chat with like 20 of his high school buddies and the day of the shooting they hopped on there dropped in a picture of the shooter who

actually was robinson of course but they didn't really fully understand no it was just thought he looked like him but uh somebody dropped the image in and said where are you at with a skull emoji, basically a joke and he looked like the man who got caught. And then Robinson's like, oh, my doppelganger was trying to get me in trouble. And then everywhere else sort of chimed in, Tyler killed Charlie. Ha, ha, ha, ha. After Robinson joked that the gunman

was his look-alike, another user suggested that the group could turn in Robinson and get the $100,000 reward the FBI was offering. Robinson responded, only if I get a cut. And then they joked about, don't go to McDonald's, which is a reference to Luigi's arrest. And the

Robinson's messages on Discord appeared next to his Avatar, which was a Garfield comic and depicted the confused face of Garfield's owner, John Arbuckle. What do you do with a mass shooter who likes Garfield guy? Yeah, right. Yeah, the Garfield thing is more out of left field than anything else who said so far, in my opinion.

Like, the only political joke that Robinson made on there that I saw was he said, like, oh, a left wing, like, they're joking about Trump's in the National Garden to Utah. And Robinson's like, oh, well, obviously the shooters from California. you know, making a joke like a normally would

that California's all liberal and Utah's all conservative. But like, so nothing about him screams political at all, even in private. In fact, like, here's the part that got me, like, he responded in the group chat, quote, I heard the ammo had something about trans stuff on it, but they aren't releasing photos or exact quotes. And also, the claim wasn't backed by the official FBI,

just some dude in the briefing room. So he seemed surprised they interpreted the shooting as, as, like, if you wanted to send a political man, message. Yeah. You'd want it to be clear. Clear. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. So. That's why they normally write fucking manifestos and shit, which end up being oftentimes not all that clear either because again, these are crazy people. But yeah. And this guy, right. You know, there doesn't even seem to be an effort in that, in that regard. With this case, which is.

So what does that tell you? He had a hero is presented with a perfect opportunity to help get his message out there a little more without. like confessing to anything. All he'd do was stop up to the first sentence. I heard the animal had something about trans stuff on it. Stop there. He disagreed with himself. So as far as why they need the motive to be trans...

Patel screwed this case up so badly. Besides the Cultural War stuff, and talking about specifically why in this case, they seem to want this to be a federal case, all right? But murder is a state charge, almost always. But cash is desperate to save his job. They really need to get this guy, the death penalty would be on the path for it. The only way to make a death penalty case in Utah is to call it terrorism, which is kind of a stretch here.

And they really really want to kill this kid. But they're also like Mormon juries, I'm not super well read on the Mormon opinion, Mormon opinions about the death penalty, but they feel they're not enthusiastic about it. It's put it that way. And there's a Mormon jury, which you get like the, if they try them in this county, 90% of the people are Mormon. A Mormon jury is not going to want to give the death penalty to a young Mormon kid. Okay. Who can be redeemed. All right.

See what I'm saying? I mean, yeah, I just, I'd sooner lasso the moon and try to parse the inner workings of Mormon dog muck. I have no idea where they're at on any of that shit either, but I believe you. Right. So if you get into a federal case, you pull from a statewide jury pool, which means maybe we'd move it to another county that's less Mormon, right? So the also, I think, but the only way to move it to federal, to a federal court is to try to argue that there's a hate crime element attached to it was why they want, I think they want desperately for the, for Robinson's motive to be related to like trans liberation or whatever. It's they can call Kirk's murder and anti-Christian hate crime. Mm-hmm.

It feels like to me that's where we're going with this. Oh, definitely. Well, they've been, you know, I mean, they've been desperate to be recognized as far and away the most oppressed and persecuted demographic. this country for years white Christian conservative so you know they definitely would love to they'll take any opportunity to do that but especially in a case like this one

the uh they're already starting like this has been a weird this is not even related to like how we feel about Kirk or Turning Points USA or Conservatives or whatever's going on in Magistphere any of that stuff like the general vibe about free speech

this is worse than fucking after 9-11 man oh yeah dude no I've been Look, I've been freaked out about, I said this on the Patreon episode, too, on Friday, like, and I mentioned, you know, my, the rant videos I do, we're going to try to talk about some of this, but I'm already, I'm trying, I'm definitely going to be, you know, walking on eggshells a little more than I normally am, I think, because I've been for you, dude, these people are, they've been losing their minds. Just basically calling for, like, pickup truck pogroms or whatever against people on the left, open civil war. war we're going to fucking kill you all has been the tenor of a lot of the shit that I've been saying at people they're out here making lists and stuff and they're not nope the the leadership the administration and everything is not it ain't like they're uh you know trying to pour cold water on that or nothing fucking straight gasoline is what they're doing

generally and which ain't and it's like it's fucking scary yeah it's also inflation like like some stuff like you know i can understand like a like a company or or a business, some of this stuff I've seen I want to be associated with it. You know, like, some of it's like openly gleeful about someone's murder and that's bad. But the majority of it's just like people being like... Quoting him.

Yeah. There's a lieutenant colonel in the army who they're trying to drum out of the service right now for literally just posted quotes from Charlie Kurt. They didn't even say they were bad. He might have been a fan of them. Yeah, right. But it's like, what does that say about you

that you interpret them that just, you know, just the quotes on their own with no. additional context added your interpretation of that is like oh he's trying to make charlie you know look like an asshole or whatever like what does that say about the fucking you know the quotes themselves or whatever if even you um interpret it that way or you know i just but yeah it's also like it's not it's like it's like it's like it's not like kirk was ashamed of any of the stuff he said he's this whole deal was saying it so like it's very very very weird to me but like the but yeah i've seen people getting fired for very straightforward in not an extremely innocuous stuff

I've lost count on how many people have lost their jobs the past couple days. And this is the middle of the government itself. Dude, J.D. gave a horrific, he guest hosted Kirk's show today and get this fucking rant that was like, Jesus Christ, it sounds like he's like calling for like every college professor to be lined up in front of a firing squad.

Right. That's what I'm saying. That's how they've all been sounding. It's fucking. It's freaky. See, yeah, let me quote here. Many Republicans and conservative comments,

are calling for a sweeping crackdown on left wing groups, assuming that the perpetrator would likely be someone from the opposite side of the political spectrum, Ms. Kirk, which even if, again, we don't know this guy's ideology, but no one's alleging that he was part of any sort of network or, like, funded by anybody or anything like that. He just, like, he took his dad's a little hunting rifle and shot a guy. Quote, my administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity into other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who grew after our judges, law enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our

country, it's a quote from Trump. Then Stephen Miller said they want to launch a crackdown and quote radical left organizations that also blamed. He basically, they're going to take away the tax exempt status of like gay rights groups and try to like use the IRS to punish lawyers who represent them. That's basically what they're saying here. Here's a video from Stephen Miller if you want to talk about the divide here. Universities in many places have become incubators for extremism.

They become the equivalent of, of madrasas for jihadism, our university. Okay. Robinson went to one semester at Utah State University. Yeah, like a farm school, I think, like an agricultural college, one semester, in Utah. Those famed breeding grounds of far-left ideology, you know. They transferred to a technical school, and maybe they're doing, you know, cultural Marxism between HVAC classes. Right. It's just so ridiculous.

And then, so stuff like I've seen the last few days, just like the ideas are kicking around. Clay Higgins, Republican Congressman, is talking about using Congress's power somehow to call for lifetime social media bans for people who made jokes about Charlie Kirk. The State Department's trying to, like, saying they're going to deport people who posted any sort of, like, negative stuff about Charlie Kirk. There's also a bill in front of Congress right now. They'll give the State Department the right to take away Americans' passports for expressing audio. they don't like so they're trying to lock us in the country yeah um and like Pete Hexseth has people like hunting for like every like the social media profiles for everybody versus Department of Defense uh anybody who mocked or condone the assassination which condone

their eyes is basically saying like while I think murder's bad I don't know if we should be praising Charlie Kirk as much that's considered like said even though you say you should have been murdered just take just to construe that as I'm glad he's murdered yeah any sort of like open adulation, you know what I mean, and like hero worship, or like deep, deep mourning, you know, like anything, anything other than that, doesn't matter how nuanced diplomatic you try to make it. That counts is, bro, the guy, the guy to advanced auto parts store who was like, who earlier? Like that guy could go to, like, they want to put that guy in prison for not knowing who he is. Um, so, uh, already several service members, people have volunteered to

join the armed forces have been relieved of their jobs because of social media post. Let me quote here from, they started the snitch hashtags for service member to snitch on one another. So we have keyboard warrior, like, no, sorry, for civilians who see Facebook posts and stuff to snitch on people in the armed services. So we got keyboard warriors taking out actual warriors. The, uh, some have been pretty harsh. Like the hatred you spew is enough to get you, we deserve, pal, which, you know, armed services kill people for stuff like the political positions.

that's literally their job. So I'm sure what you expect. But some of the posts in that collection don't necessarily condone or mock Kirk's murder, but have been reviewed as unfavorable, including one that read, I don't give a shit about Charlie Kirk. You're not allowed to not give a shit. They're essentially calling together a meeting of the whole armed force and said, you will give a shit, soldier.

We quote here from an officer who said that troops know they're not allowed to condone political violence, but being fired for criticizing a person, particularly a civilian, who has no ties to the military, is extremely rare. quote, we can't criticize the commander in chief, but I can't remember anyone ever telling me we can't say anything critical about a civilian like this. He was not in our chain or chain of commander anything, the officer said.

So they're forcing the U.S. Army to honor him. Like, what is he, a Confederate general? You know? Yeah. The fuck. They're going to be renamed Fort Bragg to Fort Charlie Kirk. It's like, what the fuck? He's going to be on money about this time next week.

I do. Wouldn't surprise me at all. Yeah. It's been and truly wild. And, you know, again, who knows where it's going to go from here? I might as well just make that the official sign-off of this show every week because that's pretty much what I always end up saying organically. Thanks, you're fucking insane, and we don't even know how much worse it's going to get. See you next with.

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