Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 294 - Brother Love AKA Bruce Prichard

Episode Date: January 10, 2018

Dr Steve, Dr Scott and Lady Di-agnosis discuss gout with Bruce Prichard, who also plugs his new gig and podcast! Classic championship wrestling came up once or twice. Creatine supplements, e-cigarettes, and more! Check out: STUFF.DOCTORSTEVE.COM simplyherbals.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Concoction. Anyway. All right. Well, listen, we have a guest, and I don't want to keep him waiting any longer because this is a big deal for me. This is Bruce Pritchard. He's the brother of Dr. Tom Pritchard, known for his work in the WWF and the heavenly bodies. as a trainer for Deep South Wrestling in the WWE, but Bruce himself is known for his nom to wrestling as WWE's brother love, the original manager of The Undertaker.

So, Bruce, thanks for being on our show. What are you up to now? Well, Doc, thank for having me on the show, first of all. But right now, man, the main thing that I'm doing is hosting a podcast myself. Now, I'm not big time on serious like you guys. guys are i've just got my own podcast called something to wrestle with bruce pritchard and and we just tell you know we tell stories about uh yesterday year in the wrestling business uh over 44 years in this crazy business i have a few stories dude you got to have me on you know i when shulie

hooked the two of us up he had no idea that i had a history in uh classic wrestling and uh in the at least in the 70s uh i was was a cameraman and audio engineer for WRAL TV, where we did Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling and wide world of wrestling. And our stable of wrestlers were no other than Rick Flair, Black Jack Mulligan, Rufus R. Jones, Mr. Wrestling, Tim Woods, Ricky Steamboat, Wahoo McDaniel, and a host of others. And I do have a few stories to tell. Well, that was a hell of a crew.

Yeah, it was awesome. And before we're done, I want to tell you my Brut Bernard story because he was... Brut was a little crazy. Yeah, he wasn't in our group, but, you know, we would hire people to come in. We, the time I met, Andre the Giant was really stunning because I walk in the studio. He's massive. He was leaning up against the wall and my brain did a double take because you don't expect. to see somebody that gigantic.

He truly was a giant. He literally was a giant. Seven foot six. Oh, my God. And, you know, you're just, you're used to seeing people fit into a certain bell curve. Sure, sure. And he just blew the bell curve all to hell. And he was a very nice guy.

Of course, our guys beat him. I think Greg Valentine wrestled him and beat the shit out of him because that was the thing. If you hired somebody from the outside, they were going to lose. They weren't going to win. But I bet nobody body slammed him that day, did they? Bounce off him, maybe. Well, you know, I'm not even letting our guests talk because you got me all excited about the old days. I'm listening.

I'm listening to your stories. I was going to share my favorite Andre the Giant story, which was Andre being on a plane, and he was seated in first class and going to sit down, and he was kind of messing with things in the middle. A flight attendant asked him if she could bring him anything, and he said, yeah, I take a screwdriver and she left and she came back and was passing out everyone's drinks and came to Andre and handed him a Phillips head screwdriver. He looked at it and he said, what's this? And she said, you ask for a screwdriver.

He holds a screwdriver and looks at it for a second and says, hmm, what would you bring me if I ask for bloody merry? That's brilliant. Oh, my God. It kind of sums the boss up in one quick fell suit. Yeah, no, he had a good sense of humor. Well, and I know you called for a specific reason, but let's trade a couple of stories before we do. Let me tell you my Brute Bernard story, right?

And then I've got one. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. I was, when I was a kid in Michigan, I used to watch wrestling on a little 13-inch black and white TV. And Brut Bernard would be on whatever, I don't know what group this was, because I was. I was a kid didn't pay attention to it. I just knew it was wrestling.

And Brute Bernard was this big stocky bald dude, and he never spoke. His partner would be up there going, you know, Black Jack Mulligan, if you're listening, or whoever he was yelling at. And then Brut would be just strutting around behind him, going around in circles like an animal. And every once in a while he would stop and he would go, ah, and just make this animalistic noise. And I remember watching him wrestle some guy and he bit his hand and saliva and just, you know, some sort of, you know, fluid was spraying out of there. And it scared the shit out of me. I was a little kid. He terrified me.

Oh, my God. So when I'm working at WRAL, I heard that we had hired Brut Bernard to do, you know, a session with us. And I was kind of freaked out because this guy throughout my childhood had been sort of the stuff of nightmares, right? Oh, my gosh. So I knew he was up in the dressing room getting ready. And so there was a big metal stair that came down into the main studio. And I waited out there to see this guy, right? And here he comes.

Brut Bernard, the object of my nightmares throughout my childhood is wearing a silk smoking jacket. He's got a cigarette in a cigarette holder. He's got these big, thick glasses on, and he's holding a copy of the Wall Street Journal. Oh, my God. Fear be gone. And I was like, Mr. Bernardzer, can I get your autograph? He's like, sure, kid. Oh, my God.

It kind of dissolved my nightmares. But it would just, you know, just a sweet guy. He was just doing a damn job, you know. That's funny. It's not much of a story, but it's more about me than it was about him. I got one about me. It's about the perception and what you thought. Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. No, he was perfect at it. I mean, I bought it, hook, line, and sinker. You know, it's just like, I guess there were kids out there that believed Baron von Rasky could actually, you know, make somebody faint by holding the claw over their head. That's good stuff. Or that, or that Boris, the, well, what was the guy's name, the Polish Prince? What was his name, Bruce? It was Ivan Koloff, Boris Molenko, quite a few, yeah.

Well, there was one guy was the Polish. Prince and he would always be gnawing during the we would do these commercials right for the live shows that's where they made all the money we're in the in the uh theaters or in the you know arenas and he would always be gnawing on this polish sausage yeah and uh and he never took a bite of it and actually chewed it and swallowed it he would just kind of gnaw on and it was really kind of gross and i remember one day i was cleaning up the living room set which was right next to where we film the wrestling commercials, and I picked up the cushion of the couch, and there was Mighty Igor. That was it, the Polish prince. Mighty Igor, yeah. There was his Polish sausage under it. So what the son of a bitch was doing, and he was from Kernersville, North Carolina, by the way.

Oh, my God. As far away from Poland as you could possibly get. And he was, every week, he would pull that sausage out and gnaw on it for a while and then shove it back. Oh, my God, that's gross. Under the cushion and then the next week, you come and get it out again. Oh, my God. It was horrendous. Oh.

Hey, I've got to pipe in. Okay. Hey, Bruce, this is Dr. Scott. Hey, it's wonderful to talk to. Back in the mid-80s, I played baseball, actually late 80s at Western Kentucky University, which is in Bowling Green, which is where I got to meet Hillbilly Jim. And he still, to this day, is a friend of mine. But in college at Western Kentucky, you know, was the heyday of a wrestler. He's got a show on the outlaw radio station.

Was he a wrestler? He was a wrestler, huge wrestler. He was a great big old, he wore Claude Hoppers and overhauls into the ring. And he was just a huge dude, too. He was from Bowling Green, Kentucky played baseball and football up there, or basketball and football. So my nickname in college, because it was a heyday of the wrestling was Fitsy, Mania because I was the strongest force on our baseball team. And so instead of the strongest force universe, it was Fitsy Mania.

So to this day, anybody that calls me and says, hey, Fitsy Mania, I know when, you know where you knew I'm from. I know where I know him from. Yeah. But Hillbilly Jim's a wonderful guy. He is, and he talks more than any human I've ever met. Wow. Hey, Bruce, do you remember when Paul Jones turned bad?

That was during my year. Oh, yeah. He became, you know, and he was a baby. face and then turned into a heel and then turn back around again and see the the thing that I was always explained to my friends was that wrestling was kind of kind of a soap opera for redneck men and adolescents you know because they would set up these rivalries on the TV show and then they would play them out at the arenas and so they would get people to want to go there so they'd have it was brilliant marketing they would have cliffhangers oh yeah

and you know somebody'd turn on somebody and it's like you know what Wahoo McDaniel, if you're listening, you know, we're going to fight it out in a Texas chainsaw match and at Dorton Arena. And the funny thing is, of course, Wahoo McDaniel was listening. He was sitting right there. We couldn't separate them. They were all working together. They would all sit at these little tables, and Gene and Oly Anderson would hand out sandwiches and stuff, and Gene Anderson would call the people up. Okay, this next one's Blackjack Mulligan and Rufus R. Jones.

and then they'd get up and they'd do their thing. And we had to do 70 of them because we would send these shows out to 35 different markets. And each market needed two commercials to do Dortmarina or Charlotte Coliseum or whatever. Wow. And that's where they made money. At that time, they actually lost money on these things. Jeez. Anyway.

Hey, Bruce, you have any good Hillbilly Jim stories? You know, I think that the best Hillbilly Jim story was in later years, you know, Hillbilly, the real Jim Morrison, who played Hillbillard with Jim on TV, was about as opposite of Hillbilly Jim, the characters you could get. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he later on went to work for a company called Coliseum Video that produced the videotapes for the WWF at the time. And one of our writers, Brian Goertz, says to us one time,

because Jim would show up, and he said, do you think we might be able to get Hillbilly Jim back and not the guy that runs the porn arcade down on the street. Because Jim would come in and he would have his hair all slick back and wearing a bunch of gold chain and silk flowery shirt and everything. Hey, everybody, how you doing? Yep. He resembled the guy at the local strip club or at the corn arcade on the corner.

Hey, y'all, come on in here. We've got a special two for one. Yeah, Barker. And he had that old crazy hair slick back. He looked like he came straight of like, an Italian. You know this guy? You're still friends with him?

Yeah, I called him. I called him Wednesday. I didn't talk to him. We need to have him on the show. He's got a huge, huge show. He's great. He is. He's got a great show on that he does.

It's called the Moonshine Matinee on Series XM Channel 60. Well, Bruce, I've totally monopolized this conversation. Nice talking to you, Bruce. Call back anytime. Hey, guys. What can we do for you? Thanks, we're going to be at Barclays Center in Brooklyn on January. There you go.

No, I know you called for a reason. Did you, did you want to get your medical thing out of the way? First, do you want to plug your gig at the Berkeley Center, which, by the way, Bruce's podcast, they get a million listeners a week. Wow. We get about a million a year, so they've got 50 times our audience, so I don't know how we can help him, but we're always happy to plug our friends' gigs. And this is actually, we're doing a gig in Brooklyn on Friday, January 19th, and it's a

partnership with the Brooklyn Nets and Barclay Center. So you get an NBA basketball game, and then right after it, you get a live version of our show. And it's going to be the first time we're doing anything like this. Tickets start only $35. Get them at box of gimmicks.com, but it's basketball and live Bruce Pritchard right afterwards, which is always a lot of fun. We're going to have a huge special guest and a ton of fun.

Wow. So, in Brooklyn, so it's going to be a blast. January 19 you should be there box of gimmicks.com know it is that it you're not going to forget that one yeah okay that's it man and then you know getting to my medical question yeah man okay what is okay and i just just getting over this but gout oh and for whatever reason you know i i've gone through the thing and and now i'm convinced that it's just uh Atlantic shrimp or frozen shrimp that comes anywhere from the gulf Yes. Dr. Scott also has gout.

I can eat all the ghost tramp world. Nothing. That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, Dr. Scott also has gout. Yes. And have they confirmed that you have elevated uric acid levels? And, I mean, have they confirmed that it's truly gout? Because there are some people that are called gout that turns out they really aren't and they get treated inappropriately.

Right. Yes. Yes, they have. And I've actually been prescribed allopurinol as well. that I take date. And I'm going to bet that you're actually not an overproducer, which is what allopure. Okay, so let's talk about gout for a second. So gout is an abundance of a breakdown product of protein called uric acid or urate.

And when uric acid builds up, it can collect in the joints, and it can precipitate, just like those experiments we had when we were in chemistry as kids. You put two things together, and it would precipitate crystals out of solution. And it'll precipitate in the joints out in the periphery because it's so far away from the rest of the body. And typically in the toes and ankles and feet because of gravity. Yeah. So it is extremely painful. People will tell you that it's the worst pain they've ever experienced that they can't even stand to have a sheet touch their toe.

and it's usually, usually in the big toe, although I've seen it in knees. I've seen it in a hip. I've seen it in a sternum. I saw it in a guy that had it in every joint of his hands and feet and had these big giant things called tofi, which are collections of uric acid crystals. So there's only two ways you can get an elevated uric acid level in your body. One is that you produce too much. Those are called overproducers, very fancy medical term. And then another way is to accept.

excrete too little. In other words, not pissing out enough for whatever reason. And those people are called, you know, figure it out. Under excreter. Under excreters. Very good. Very good lady diagnoses. So the vast majority of people are under excreters. But the vast majority of people are treated as if they were overproducers. And the reason for that is is the allopurinol does work whether either way. It just doesn't attack the underlying problem, which I like to do. Go ahead, Dr. Right. And I was going to add to that to Bruce, where Dr. Steve is going with this is a lot of people get the alipurinol because that's kind of the standard go-to. A lot of doctors are not. It's a knee-jerk thing. Gout allop-urin-a-Pirn.

They don't worry about checking other stuff. One thing that I will tell you, and this is certainly from personal experience, if that aliparinol does not work or control it completely, then you need to have them, and this is thanks to Dr. Steve, he taught me in doing this. I actually did a urine test, a 24-hour urine test, and they put me on an old medicine called Probenicid, which it binds to the uric acid crystals, and the kidneys, and they flush it out. She actually pee out the uric acid, so you don't, it's not, I don't worry about producing too much. I just pee out all of it. Probenicid makes you excrete more, and if you're an under-excreter, it seems to...

God, it's a miracle. to fit the, you know, the paradigm that we want to treat the underlying problem. The interesting thing about probenicid is, is if you take penicillin, you won't excrete it. It'll block the excretion of penicillin. We used to do this all the time with people of VD and stuff. We would give them a probenicid and then give them a shot of penicillin. It'll hang around longer and kill all the, you know, naughty germs. But the probenicid enhances the excretion of uric acid.

So it's just interesting how these things work. And can I address the shrimp thing, too? You know, I don't know if you know this or not Bruce, but shrimp are really high in purines. And I would guess that those Atlantic, you know, shrimps may have a higher level purines than Gulf shrimp or something. But I haven't touched a shrimp in about 10 years because of this shit. And you still get gout, though. You know, but thank God I haven't had a, I have not had a flare since we started pro benison. Yeah.

Since the last time lady diagnosis and JVic had to carry. Are yourself a feel? I'm giving that to myself. And that is Dr. Steve, thanks to him. Yes, absolutely. So, and then the question. I like it. Yeah.

The question, Bruce, is, is, does it happen often enough for you to take something every day to prevent it? Mm-hmm. Or is it severe enough when it happens that you want to take something every day to prevent it? Yes. Because if it only happens once every six months, it is kind of silly to take a pill every day to prevent something that's going to happen every six months. Right. because there are medications that you can take when it happens to knock out. But those didn't work for Dr. Scott.

No, they did not. When he had his big attack a couple of years ago, when he was in here, I prescribed the stuff that is supposed to abort an attack, and it did nothing. Didn't touch it. So where do you get your gout there, Bruce? I'll write my left big toe and my ankle. Isn't the ankle the worst? It's painful. It's horrible.

Oh, it sucks. Yeah. Did you, now, how often do you get your go out? See, I haven't had a flare up in a long time. Oh, good. And that's kind of the only thing that was different was we went out and we, I had, I'm a stickler on what I eat and especially when it comes to seafood because I live on the Gulf, I only like Gulf shrimp. And we went to a place. And as soon as I bit into it, I knew us.

This is frozen. Atlantic shrimp, because I could tell the difference. And I ate it, didn't think anything of it, because I hadn't had a flare up in a while. And lo and behold, 24 hours later, I was hobbling. Yeah, yeah. How long does it last when you get the symptoms? Is it like a week? Yes.

Oh, man. And that sucks. It's horrible. Yeah. Especially, you know, I tell people you think gout hurts when it's in your toe, but wait until it gets to your ankle. Yeah. And then it's, and then, yeah, and then the knee is even. worse and Bruce I'll tell you a couple a couple lifestyle things you said you're pretty

you know pretty diligent as far as your diet but you know exercise as far as I'm as long as I'm exercising moving and pumping blood through my legs and feet I tend to not have near the near the issues if I'm sedentary you know sitting on planes and stuff I'm at a high risk for sure for the gout so staying active is huge well you know brother love is doing those working out yeah do doing those doing those You're flying Russian sickles and all those wonderful moves you guys can do. Well, God bless. And, you know, there are medications that you can take if you have an attack.

There's two of them, anti-inflammatories. A lot of times, that's the only time we'll prescribe an anti-inflammatory called endomethousin. Indomethicin. Endomethison, I was just going to say. That's a hard core anti-inflammatory, old-school. It's hard on your system, but it works for gout like almost nothing else does. And then Colchocene. Colchicine is the other thing.

You have to take it until you puke, though, and I don't like to puke yourself to death. Or shit yourself, right. Now, they can give you IV colchicine, and it bypasses all of the GI effects, but that can only be done in an emergency room with cardiac monitoring because it increases your risk of having a heart attack in the short term. So it's not something we do lightly. but if someone comes in with gout in the knee and they're in excruciating, writhing around pain, they'll walk out pain free. Yeah. So, but anyway, all right.

Hey, Bruce, plug your gig again. And we've got to have you on. Yeah, it is. Yeah, go ahead, man. I love it. I love it. Hey, we're going to be in New York City, Brooklyn at Barclays Center on Friday night, January 19th, get tickets at box of gimmicks.com.

It's a double header with the Brooklyn Nets. They're going to be facing the Miami Heat that night. And right after the game, you get a ticket to the game and a ticket to see us live. That's myself and Conrad Thompson with our special guest. It's going to be surprised in people that are big into our show. They have to be there to see it because they don't want to read about it the next day and wish they were there. And tickets started only $35 at Box of Gimmicks.com. And we just want everybody to come on out and join us live.

And where can they hear your podcast? I mean, you've got a million listeners. They already know. Hey, they can hear our podcast. at something to wrestle.com and it drops every Friday at noon and if you like the podcast and you want to support the show and get some of the greatest t-shirts in the world and go on over to bruce pritchard.com don't put a tea in my name put one on your back oh there you go pritchard well i'm going to have to get you know hey you got to get all the plug

oh my god that's horrendous all right buddy Hey, listen, it was great having you on. If you see Shulay, tell him I said hello, and we'd love to have you back on and talk classic wrestling again sometime. Maybe he'll let you talk next time. Thank you very much. I appreciate the time. Hey, we hope you feel better, Bruce. All right, buddy.

Thank you, guys. Take care. What a cool guy. Shoot you. That was great. Those old school wrestling days, man. I never have an opportunity to talk old school wrestling. That's how Sam Roberts.

You get all excited. I love it. I do. I don't know. I love that old stuff with Hulk Hogan. You know, Hulk Hogan's the only person that ever body slammed Andre the Giant. Oh, really? He literally got him up in the air.

What? I'd like to see that. He put him up and slammed him. He do a suplex on him. I think, yeah, my gosh. I do get excited because it's one of those things that at the time I was like, how the fuck can I get out of here? Right. But in the rearview mirror retrospectoscope, I was involved in something that people, he's got a million people that could listen to the stories just like that because I was there, you know.

And it's a huge business to this day. Yeah. And they love it. People just love it. Well, the TV shows then were a loss later. They would pay to put the TV shows on just to get people into the arenas. That's why they never resolved any of the conflicts on the TV show. they only set them up.

Interesting. Yeah, it's cool. It's good stuff. All right. Thank you, Bruce. Well, you want to do a dang phone call or something? All right. Here we go.

Number one thing, don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. All right. We won't, Dr. Bennett. Hi, Dr. Steve. Mike from Massachusetts here. If you could answer this on the podcast, that'd be awesome. Just got a really quick question for you. Curious on your opinion on creatine.

for working out. I was told that it might help to increase my size. I'm kind of scrawny. And I've been working out like a crazy person. Doing my best, it looked better. I heard it might help. But I also know there's no free lunches in nature. And if I'm using it, I'm probably dying in another way.

So curious, I'm yours. Not necessarily on this one. Cretein is a nitrogenous organic acid. It helps to transport energy from one part the cell to the other, particularly in muscle cells. And there are, you know, I probably need to take this stuff because I'm fucking old. I realized the other day, Lady Diagnosis, and this was sad. I could get Social Security.

You know, at 62, you can start getting Social Security. And I was telling this to Tacey in my self-deprecating, you know, you know, fucking, hey, I could get Social Security. And she's like, well, do you want to get Social Security? And it's like, no, no, it's not the point. The point is, that's how old I am. It's an old joke, not an actually I want to start getting, you know, cashing my social security checks in. But it's, there are some evidence that it might prevent skin aging and multiple sclerosis patients may benefit from it. If only that it optimizes muscle strength.

And, you know, a lot of. Athletes will use it to assist with high-intensity training, and it can cause body mass increase. So I don't – there was – people would tell me, well, don't take creatine because it causes renal failure. Well, I looked it up. There was indeed one case of somebody that had end-stage renal failure after using creatine. We don't know what their other risk factors were. But that's the only case I could ever find. And so out of the millions, hundreds of millions of people that have used creatine, one person had an adverse effect from it.

So you want to buy it from a reputable source, of course. Can you overtake it? Use it too much? I think you can overtake anything. Sure. But what would the effect be? Maybe that's what he's thinking. It could possibly be hardening in kidneys because you're going to, the kidneys have creatine anyway.

Well, that's creatin. Or creatin. Yeah, that's a different thing. Different thing. We took creatine in college. Yeah. You know, because we used to do a lot of heavy lifting. And it seemed to help as far as recovery.

It appears to be safe in moderate doses. But, of course, like everything else in this sort of realm, a low long-term safety hasn't been proven. It's just three amino acids. It's arginine, glycine, and methionine. And it's actually, you have it in your body now. It's about 1% of the total volume of the human blood. So, you know, there's a lot, lots of it in your body.

So when you're supplementing, you're just increasing your levels of something that you already have. Right. All right. Okay, dope. Well. Is that all for today? No. Hey, Dr. Steve.

I'm listening to your podcast from a few weeks back. A caller I called in talking about he quit smoking cigarettes and started smoking e-cigarettes. I pretty much did the same thing. I haven't smoked a real cigarette since 2013. Good. So it's been over four years now. The thing is, these e-cigarettes, I'm probably more hooked on these than I was actual cigarettes. The thing is, the actual cigarettes, it's a measured thing.

Like, if I'm smoking one while I'm taking a dump, I know I'm smoking one cigarette. Or the e-cigarettes, I'm puffing on this thing. That's a great crime. So it's probably even worse. I tried quitting a few months back, and it was definitely harder than when I quit smoking real cigarettes. This is the problem with this stuff. First off, we don't know what the fuck we're dealing with. And I see these people now with these ornate e-sigs and with these big tanks on them where they can just puff on it all day long and they're just blowing out the bigger the cloud of, it's not smoke, but of mist that they can blow out, the cooler it is.

And it's become kind of this hipster thing. You know, oh, I have my clarinet-shaped vape pin. I think I'll take a toot on it. And it's like, cut the fucking shit. There is no way that having that much of whatever that is, and I think it's ethylene glycol is part of it, can in the long run be good for you? It may not be bad for you, but it certainly isn't good for you.

And it may actually be bad for you, particularly the people, that are inhaling vegetable oils and stuff to flavor these things. So I'm not a nambi-pambi-pambi just-no type, but I think that this guy, particularly, he went to a nicotine vape pen, and now he's addicted to it. So that should be relatively easy. I believe that you can decrease the concentration of the vapor, and you could just do that slowly, just like tapering cigarettes.

and use a measured device. Don't get one of those ones with the big giant tank. Endless tank. You want to get one where you have to replace the little capsules and start decreasing the nicotine value. And he should be able to get off of that. And again, nicotine withdrawal is very uncomfortable. But that's all it is.

It's just uncomfortable. It's not dangerous. Right. Exactly, yep. Not like, I mean, you're in danger of, being an asshole. Asshole, but it's not dangerous like benzodiazepine withdrawal or alcohol withdrawal can be. So I highly recommend once you realize that you're hopelessly addicted to something,

that's the time when you need to start making a plan to get off of it. So I would look at the e-cigarettes that have the replaceable capsule and look for ones that have different nicotine values and just start decreasing it and get off of it. There's no proof that e-sigs cause popcorn. lung yet, but there is some concern that there may be some long-term deficits to using ESIGs. So I just, I hope that it doesn't do something like cause pulmonary fibrosis because that may actually be worse than what cigarettes do.

So I'm just saying, I hope, look, if you're an ESIG manufacturer, God, you know, God bless you, I guess, you know, particularly if you are importing these things legally and selling them legally in the United States. R.J. Reynolds, way back in the day, back in the 70s, I think, was going to come out with. Listen to this. I remember this description.

They were going to have a cigarette that was a metal tube that had a red light on the end of it, and that would heat up a capsule of water and nicotine, and then you would inhale it like a regular cigarette. That was an e-cigarette. They applied for FDA approval, and they got turned down. Now, would things be different if they had gotten FDA approval? I don't know. You know, we would at least have some long-term safety data at this point.

So, you know, tar causes cancer. Nicotine promotes cancer. And nicotine increases risk of cardiovascular disease. So the good thing about vape pens is they don't have tar in them, but they do have this other stuff that we don't really know. what inhaling it does, but I understand it feels just like you're smoking. You know, you get that full feeling in your lungs and then you blow it out and you get that emptying feeling.

I remember. I mean, hell, I smoke three packs a day. So anyway, I'm concerned about it. But that's what he needs to do to get off that. Or go get nicotine gum and then get addicted to it like Rich Fawes. It's got to be better. Yeah. All right.

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And it starts playing clown music. That was fun, though. Yeah, it was very much fun. If you don't get your feelings hurt. Yeah. Nope. And so check out premium.com. You want to play a song, Dr. Scott?

Sure. All right. Let's get the fuck out of here. Let's do it. You're going to fade us out? Yeah, I'll fade us out at the end. Okay, first off, let's get you... There you can.

And let's get you some reverb, Dr. Scott. And... There you go. Oh, nice. That's better. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I have something, if you have a friend that's into music and you want to get them a toy that's not a toy,

get for under, I think it's 50 bucks, you can get a teenage engineering synthesizer. These are little pocket synthesizers, and that's what we're going to use today to keep Dr. Scott on the rhythm. And this one's called the pocket operator tonic. And you can do up to 16 different rhythms. You can do special effects for each one. We're just going to do a real vanilla beat. My phone's ringing, shit. Where is it?

No, I don't know. I hear it. Oh, it's on the floor. Hey, buddy, just come up here. Okay, ready? I think it's in time. I let out from Reno, I was 12 by 20 hours. Didn't get to sleep my side to the morning came around.

Selma, take the time of a friend and a new friend of mine. I get home for the night, I just make you sleep tonight. ran into the devil's bay in the winter night the entire cave upon the head when I ran to take the time of friends I get home to morning that I just make it to see the night When I do I have a bed of Damn caught me there Took my $20 bill

And I'm running But I'm running for take the time Oh friend to do A friend of mine I will For delight Just like it's the same Tonight

Got to reason Why I Way's slowly down. First one, they plead in the queen, she's my husband. Check on this present, ma'amper, she's on my trip. If he catches up with me, I'll spin my life in jail. Got a wife and she no baby, one in Jerry. First one says she's got my child, and don't know back to me.

Set up one of the pigmatown o'clock I get home, holding by it just like it's the city of the night Got to the reason why I cried, wait slowly night First one leaves me in the dream She's my heart to learn Second one is prison baby The sheriff saw my trip If he catches up the finger

I'll spin my life in jail Got a wife, French, oh, baby, one's chair, The first one says she's got the child And you don't look like me Said I'll run I'm going to pick my time of fool And I'll be a friend of mine I get old for tonight

I just might get some sleep tonight I didn't know you were going back to the bridge. I was just falling the screen. See you next week, everybody. See you guys.