Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 302 - Plan B from Outer Space

Episode Date: March 6, 2018

Dr Steve and Dr Scott discuss: using a stun gun as a defibrillator (don't), "day after" contraception, aromatherapy myths and facts, chronic migraines, and how to sniff out cancer. STUFF.DOCTORSTEVE.COM simplyherbals.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Take everything you hear with a grain of salt. Don't act on anything you hear on this show without talking to over with your doctor, nurse practitioner, physician, assistant, pharmacist, chiropractor, acupuncturist, yoga, master, physical therapist, or whatever. All right, very good. So, somebody said, hey, they do a really good show, but number 301 really saw. Oh, no. That was the one we did when we were done. drinking so right i guess that's you know whatever what are we going to say we well we were celebrating our 300th we didn't celebrate on the 300th yes it was like an after kind of glow

hangover if you will we should have just not done it but anyway um yeah it's good to see you old buddy we're going to do a short one today but we're promising to get back to uh doing uh medical talk and uh as a matter of fact we're going to clean up our act a little bit for a reason I can't divulge right now, but it will all become clear later if this thing I'm talking about actually happens. So, anyway, we have some phone calls. Let's take some. Cool.

Uh-oh. Oh, we lost Ronnie B. What did you say, Ronnie B? Number one thing. Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. Wow, that is absolutely, absolutely the fact, and that just no truer words have ever been said. Area Code 619, you're on Weird Medicine. What's up, Dr. Steve? How are you doing? Hey, man. Hey, it's Mark in San Diego. I should listen to Ronnie B, but, hey, I've been pumping loads in my girl all weekend.

We're on vacation and don't be so until Wednesday. How late is too late for Plan B? Oh, okay. Plan B. Let's see. okay now I'm going to tell you what I'm going to look this shit up because I don't want to tell you wrong you don't want to screw this one up that's right this is important I thought you're the expert well I am dude hey 25 years ago maybe no well go fuck yourself Dr. Scott I'm the expert but I I just want to make sure that what I'm telling you is correct right so plan B is the so-called morning after pill it should be taken as soon as possible within 72 hours after unprotected sex, and the sooner it's taken, the better it works. And you've got to take it as directed. So, like, if it was yesterday at noon, then it is 5 p.m. on today. So that would be certainly within the 72 hours.

So, um... Dan, so if I got like six healthy batches in there since Friday, I'm in a badspuck. okay so today's sunday so you what time on what time what was the when was the first batch as you so eloquently said uh laid into your uh girlfriend's vagina what time uh probably probably six before we went out for the evening six p m little pre again okay six p m so eastern aty time we were in Cincinnati okay okay that's a detail i didn't absolutely need but it's it does make it more interesting. I can picture it better. Okay, so Friday at 6 to Saturday at 6 is 24 hours. And then Sunday at 6. We're not there yet. Is 48 hours. So you're within that 72 hour

timeframe. You've got 52 minutes. No, he has 72 hours. That's 48. He's at 48 hours. He's at 48 hours. Oh, yeah. Well, you're good, man. Yeah. Now, you know, plan B when used is directed, is generally, really safe and effective. It contains a hormone called Livonorgestrel, and it's the same hormone that's used in a lot of birth control pills. After she takes this assuming that she decides to take it, and that's her choice, of course. She may have a weird period next time. She could have some nausea, abdominal cramping, fatigue, headache, dizziness, breast tenderness, and vomiting. It's better if she doesn't smoke? She's a raging alcoholic.

She's a raging alcoholic, so she has all that anyway. Oh, oh, boy. Okay. Does she smoke, too? Yeah, I don't know what she does. Okay, that's probably why she doesn't take birth control pills because smoking and birth control pills. Yeah, go ahead.

Because we're Catholic. Because we're Catholic, that's why. Oh. So, wait a minute. Okay, I'm not even going to get into that. I don't get how birth control doesn't work for Catholics, but plan B does. That's, I don't, but I, but I, bottom line is 78. Yeah, bottom line is 72 hours.

Yes, there's side effects. Read the side effects. And, uh, and let us know how things go. And God, dude, God bless you, six, six batches in 48 hours. That's, um, that's working. Even when I was at my best. And that was, I can even pinpoint. the year, I would get, I would try to get one woman over on Friday, one on Saturday, and

try to, you know, get a, um, extra innings on Sunday. And I don't think I ever did six, well, no, I don't know. I, I came close to six, but anyway, uh, I'm impressed. I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying your life vicariously and, uh, good luck. That's why, that's why, that's why, that's why Trump's trying to build the wall, because this beaners can go, man. Oh, whatever did. All right, Dr. Steve, I love the show, bro. All right. Love you too, man.

Hey, take care. Thanks. Oh, he didn't say he loved me. He said he loved this show. Okay, well, anyway. Love you on Stern, too. The one time. I'll never live that shit down.

That was on my bucket list, though. That was awesome. Thanks, man. I'll talk to you soon. Hey, good luck, dude. So. Cincinnati. My favorite bar is up there.

The Hofbrow house. It's an old German-style brew house. And it's big, huge German kind of picnic tables and just the beer and the music. Big giant. The steins of beer. God, it's just, it's like being at home. It's wonderful. Big titted women and bodices and stuff.

Yeah, with big paddles. Like if it's somebody's birthday. And they'll paddle them? Yeah, let's say that you and I, it's your birthday and there's six or seven of them. They'll have a big paddle with holes for shots of beer in it. And they put it down the middle of the table and everybody grabs one, one of the beers out of the paddle and you sell this you know singer whatever and then you get paddled because you're the birthday boy with that paddle oh and you know oh it's good stuff there's nothing worse than getting

paddled with a paddle that's got holes cut in it right because um uh a little more aerodynamically that's right it can go faster and and the air rushes through it so that there's no cushion from that uh compressed air that you would have if you had a paddle and you can hear you can hear it whistling as it's coming into too that doesn't sound like funny you You're paying for that? Uh-huh. I like it. All right, let's take another call.

Well, all right. Here that arose after a night of drinking too many. That's my life. Okay, let's try that again. Hey, Dr. Steve, I'm just calling from Buffalo, New York. I have a question here that arose after a night of drinking too many Miller lights. It's saying someone had a heart attack, and you didn't have a defibrillator. Could you use theoretically, I know you're not obviously going to ever recommend this, but could you theoretically use a stun gun to start their heart or it's just something that it's not strong enough or concentrated enough or anything like that?

No, you're just adding insult to injury. You've got somebody that's, you know, dying in front of you and then you're hitting them with a stun gun. It's just going to hurt like an MFer. My understanding is stun guns are alternating current and a cardiac defense. Fibrillator is direct current. So I don't think that's going to work. I think that's rather designed it like that, isn't it? It's so that it wouldn't do that.

Right. I mean, that may be. I mean, I think so. I think that's what I understand. Oh, that may be, Dr. Scott. I'm going to give you one of these. That's my understanding. Give yourself a bill.

I don't know that that's true, but it sounds true as hell. Yeah. You can do, however, you can do a cardiac thump. And the cardiac thump is where you take your hand and put it, you know, several inches above the chest and then just let it drop you do the way they do it in the movies where they're pounding on the person and you know breathe damn you that's not going to really do anything but just contuse their chest but if you hold your hand up and just let it drop and onto their chest it actually stimulates electrical activity in the heart and may actually start it back up again

if it was right on the bridge between you know starting and not starting so okay so yeah so don't do that no all right but it's a good question yeah good afternoon dr steve i was wanting to know if you had some information about what i've heard to be a new fountain of used drug by the name of samoralin or samarolin uh anyway thanks i'll listen on okay well uh samoralin is a um a growth hormone releasing factor, basically. So you have human growth hormone. You can take that. And I'm not saying, too, I'm just saying you could.

Or you could take a growth hormone releasing factor that would cause your body to produce more human growth hormone. It's still the same human growth hormone. So basically, Samoralin is just another way to increase human growth hormone levels in the bloodstream. And I know that it's been touted as a fountain of youth. And believe me, at 62, I'm looking for a freaking fountain of youth. But the extensive amount of study that I've done on human growth hormone supplementation and elderly individuals shows that it really does have an effect on healing. So if you're injured, human growth hormone may help. But other than that, I don't see anything magical.

There's other ways that you can stimulate human growth hormone release, though. There's this supplement that you can take over the counter called GABA. It's gamma amino butyric acid. And GABA is a neurotransmitter that in the central nervous system will cause lots of different effects, including in certain parts of the brain's sleep. So when you take certain medications that are sleep medications, they increase the release of GABA in the central nervous system. Now, but taking GABA won't do that. You think, well, I'll just take GABA then.

It doesn't work. It doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier. But the weird thing is, is that the byproducts of GABA, when they're taken at night, do seem to increase the production of human growth hormone. Another thing that may increase the production of human growth hormone is taking glutamine, which is an amino acid after exercise. And so the first thing is, though, you've got to exercise. So get some exercise and follow it with some glutamine and then take GABA at bedtime and you should increase your human growth hormone levels. so at least according to a couple of these really small studies that I've looked at

in the medical literature but I'm not a fan of just supplementing human growth hormone if you overdose on human growth hormone you will get a condition called acromegaly and if you want to see what acromegaly looks like look at Richard Keel aka Jaws from the James Bond movies I believe and if I'm incorrect

I apologize to Richard Kiel, but I believe he was, he suffered from acromegaly. Also, the British neighbor on the Jeffersons also suffered from acromegaly. So you get a big chin, you get this kind of weird, throaty voice, you get pain in your joints. And it's just because the bones are trying to grow, but there's no growth plate. So they're trying to grow, but there's no place to grow into. So they just grow abnormally. It causes sweating and a bunch of other stuff, too. So not a fan.

And I don't know enough about the Samoralin. You know, I'm sure that people are supplementing in gyms and stuff like that. And, again, not a fan of self-treatment with this type of prescription medication. I just can't endorse it. Sorry. All right. Let's see what we got here. well goodness it's very professional my name is peter so my wife got into the essential oil movement

and i'm not sure but she's claims that a lot of this stuff has medicinal purposes and it could prevent illness or help ease any kind of pain or help you heal quicker and i really just don't know and i'm wondering if you knew anything about it or dr scott i'm just trying to find out if this is not bullshit or if there actually is a thing to them anyways thank you very much love the show okay hey thanks man let's talk a little bit about essential oils as in their use in aromatherapy things like lavender are touted as causing when they're smelled or inhaled causing a peaceful feeling or decreasing stress and a lot of this comes from The fact that the nerves that hit the, that come from the nose that affect smell or that sense smell are really at the top of the list as far as things being plugged into the brain.

And so our sense of smell, although not very acute compared to other animals like dogs and other animals that rely on their sense of smell, is. really tied into memory. And I know there are certain smells that I smell that it just immediately takes me back to my grandmother's house. Yes. And if I walk in the hospital, I smell that smell from when I was an intern and I immediately get tired. So aromatherapy absolutely does do stuff. It does stuff. But I think this idea that lavender on everyone is going to make them feel.

peaceful is bullshit. What if you were, you know, ritually abused by your grandmother and... Or howl smelled like lavender? Or how smelled like lavender. When you smell it, you're going to feel anything but calm and peaceful. So I think that you can use these oils and find the things that work for you. If something makes you feel peaceful, great.

Just don't generalize it to the rest of the populace. And, you know, if your mom brewed tea, every morning, you know, using a little tea tree oil, something like that might make you think of your youth. If you had a very pleasant youth, then that might make you feel better. To make a generalizable statement about these smells, to me is malarkey. I don't see any evidence in the medical literature. And then they, but they didn't just talk about that.

They went beyond that, talking about preventing disease and treating disease and treating pain. all I can say is show me your evidence. I just want to see the evidence. Show me one decent, double-blind placebo-controlled study, and I know it's going to be hard to double-blind an aroma study, but do the best you can, that shows that you've prevented any disease, that you've cured any disease,

or that you have relieved anyone's pain. What were you going to say? Well, I was going to say, of course, they don't only use them as aromatherapy. Well, they rub them in and they... Well, and they do drops and they do topicals for certain skin infections and things like that. Sure. No, that's what I'm saying. Not just aromatherapy.

I was talking about the aromatherapy as something I can get behind. Right. Show me the evidence on any of this other bullshit, you know? Yes. And I just want to see the evidence. When I see it, I will accept it. For example, there's good evidence. Well, it's decent evidence that tea tree oil.

used on fungus infected nails will improve the way they look and may clear the fungus if used every day, twice a day for 48 weeks. The funny thing is, is that there's also evidence that shows the exact same thing for VIX VAPO rub. 48 weeks, twice a day, eradicates the fungus. interestingly there is a medication on the market called what is it jublia or something like that that is a topical antifungal that you paint on the nails and you use it for 48 weeks and you can get it with a prescription at least it doesn't stink like tea tree oil or vix vapo rub but they all seem to take about 48 weeks to do their thing so but anyway way well but you know but the one thing we do know is that there's been some pretty good studies on the peppermint oil which is an essential in in those intericoded um capsules sure for for irritable bowel okay i'll take that one so at least there's there's but some of the claims that

i've heard some of these people let's it back up so people are going what the fuck are you talking about so peppermint oil there there is some decent data that shows that enteric coated peppermint oil improve symptoms of in a capsule not rubbed on your stomach or not stiffed but actually taken in an interracosal capsule yes right in the doses that they studied improves the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome and i will say anecdotally of course it did it work for me sure extremely yeah yeah yeah nothing else had worked so we've had a bunch of people uh report that again that's anecdotal evidence but they do have some double blind placebo controlled evidence on You can do that if you're ingesting it.

So there may be other things. That's why I'm saying. We recommend that stuff. It's on our website. Go to stuff. Dot, Dr. Steve.com, and I recommend you do that anyway, and thank you for doing that. Stuff. Dot, Dr. Steve.com and scroll down, and there's a link to that peppermint oil preparation.

We don't, boy, that was gross. Sorry. But before we make any, you know, broad-based, generalizable recommendations, there needs to be more studies. Right. Well, yeah, any studies. Anything. They make these outlandish claims. Oh, I know.

And then let's see the evidence. How do we know stuff? We got to have evidence to know things. Right. You give a thousand people your medication. You give a thousand people something that looks and tastes just like it, but is inactive. That's the placebo-controlled group. And then you don't know which of those thousand people is getting the real drug.

and you which is getting the placebo and they don't know either that's called double blind placebo controlled and then at the end you have to have an end point what's your end point well you know what's weird is if you did a um a study on syldenafil which is the act of ingredient viagra and your end point was blood pressure reduction it didn't work that good right you know so you got to choose your endpoint right if your end point is big meaty erections it worked great. So you have to choose your end point and then you have to see if there's a statistically significant difference between the active group and the placebo group. And if there is, then you can make a claim based on those, the characteristics of your thousand person cohort on either

side. If they were all, you know, Northern European males, then you can really only say that it worked, you know, for Northern European males until you tested in other groups that are slightly more diverse so i mean that's how we know stuff right and just saying you know we've talked about this before we had this whole foods pharmacy uh not too far from us and they were selling the idea that since walnuts look like brains when you open them up that they were good for your memory and it's like come on what's the evidence well they're it looks like a brain that was their evidence so i would consider that to be insufficient evidence all right uh all right next

hey doctor steve i was just curious my girlfriend gets really serious migraines and uh this week she actually had migraines that got extremely worse it's uh perpetuated over several days and at first it was uh really severe i mean generally she'll get migraines and right before migraines she'll start to have sort of minor loss of vision right before a really serious one and she's been prescribed medication and had various tests done and shown nothing's really shown up and they've told her that it was serious migraines just curious if there's anything that i should look out for any way that i could possibly help her with this yeah you know the first presentation particularly of migraines can be really scary i've seen 17-year-olds with

left arm numbness and weakness and weird neon sign visions in the side of their peripheral vision, yeah, and all kinds of stuff like that. So those are called classic migraines when you have what's called an aura that goes with it. You start seeing flashing lights or smell weird smells or anything like that. And then you get the headache. And what's going on is you're getting a contract. This is presumed, by the way, you're getting contraction of blood vessels in the brain and around the brain. And when that happens, when you get the constriction of those blood vessels, the brain isn't getting the blood flow that it's used to.

So there will be weird effects sometimes. And loss of vision or weird vision or something like that or tunnel vision even. may be something that you would experience. Then that goes away, and as the vessel relaxes, it over-relaxes, because it's been contracting. Now it's tired, and so now it dilates, and as it dilates, it's going to start pumping, you know, with the bloodstream, I mean, with the blood flow coming from the heart, and you'll feel this pounding feeling as those blood vessels feel like they're being stretched to the point of breaking. and they don't let there are these stretch receptors on those blood vessels and it's a warning that they think that they're they're getting ready that they're tearing right and that's what that's what those signals are for and so it's just a very maladapted response to constriction of the blood vessels and why it happens nobody knows it's probably genetic predisposition there may be some environmental factors that lead into that. But so one of the medications that they'll use is something like imitrex, which tries to continue the vasoconstriction and then release it more gradually so that the vessel doesn't expand and feel like it's tearing.

There are other medications that try to prevent the vasoconstriction in the first place. That's for people who are taking migraines more frequently than once or twice a month. And they need to take something every day. So they may take some vasodilators that just keep the vessels dilated in the hell with it. They can't constrict. And then if they can't constrict, you can't get a migraine. Those are like calcium channel blockers and other things like that. Then there are the weird ones like Depakote, which we use as a mood stabilizer,

but it has some effects in preventing migraines. There are other medications. I don't want to throw them all out here. I could, but it doesn't make any sense. There's not going to be a test afterward, and it's just going to sound like a bunch of gobbledygook if you're not used to hearing these drug names. So what I recommend is you go see a neurologist

and go see a neurologist that specializes in migraines. And if you don't have one in your area, you could go to a university center or Mayo Clinic or Cleveland Clinic or one of those diagnostic centers and try to get on a regimen. And what they'll do is they'll do a workup. They'll make recommendations. If it works, they'll refer you back to your primary care and just say this is what we recommend. So I do highly recommend that she get checked.

And the first time you have one of these, you need to get checked anyway. Okay. And real quick, can I add this too, Dr. Of course. You know, once everything's been cleared, and we know there's nothing. God's got something that's profoundly wrong with the individual. Acupuncture treatments have been pretty effective for migraine headaches, stress-induced headaches, hormone-induced migraine headaches. And the way we treat our people is usually once a month that just keeps those headaches for coming back too frequently.

Now, this is in our office. I can't tell you, there's been great research. I mean, I can look it up. I think there is. But if he has not. Let's go ahead. Keep going on. If they have not.

founding one if they'll email you know us we can certainly turn them onto someone in their area that that is board certified and in oriental medicine that can can do all the acupuncture and all the um just making sure that she is is well taken care of because those migraine headaches i tell people all the time migraine headaches are the or the thing i hate to see the most because they're so debilitating for the person right but for uh for me it's the most gratifying thing i see because it's you help them it's it's it's it happy they get the quickest response here's um a review article in the journal headache. This is not some complementary or alternative medicine journal.

This is the journal of record regarding headache treatment, and it's just called headache. And this is from 2015. And they reviewed large and well-designed trials of acupuncture for migraine prevention and also the effectiveness of acupuncture when tried against proven migraine preventative medications. And they concluded acupuncture seems to be at least as effective as conventional drug preventative therapy for migraine and is safe, long-lasting, and cost-effective. It is a complex intervention that may prompt lifestyle changes that could be valuable in

patient's recovery. So I'm glad you brought that up. I mean, I've got an acupuncture sitting here, and then I forgot to go to you on one of the things that there's really good data for what you guys do. And I always recommend don't go to a weekend warrior acupuncturist. find someone with a D-O-M after their name. That means they're a diploma in Oriental medicine, and they've done four-year Chinese medical school,

and those are the people that really know their shit about this stuff. It's not to say that a weekend warrior couldn't learn how to do some headaches. Some good stuff, yeah. But still. The main key is just making sure the person's healthy. Yeah. Yeah. Work them up.

Yeah. You know, Topamax, I've had really good, or topiramate, had good luck with that, But I think every migraine, chronic migraine sufferers should see a good acupuncture. Absolutely. I really do. Yep. All right. All right.

Let's do one more. Okay. Hey, Dr. Steve and the gang, it's Tony up in Cleveland. And so my girlfriend and I, we get intimate and we enjoy ourselves and everything. And I got done. Braggered. You know, taking the plunge. ate up, and she's like, can you do me a favor?

I'm like, yeah, what's up? And she said, if there's an odor down there, can you please let me know? I'm like, odor, what do you mean? She said, well, a few years ago, I had some cancer cells that were there, and they needed to be taken out. And apparently, the last time that happened, there was a, there was a mild, just very, strong odor that was emitting from my vagina. So I guess my first question is if she has, you know, like why is there, would there be an odor there if there were cancer cells?

And I guess the second one is maybe not necessarily a question, but what if I'm down there and I say it smells and there is no cancer? I'd be in the doghouse. So I love to hear that and love the show. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Dr. Steve. Thanks, man. Now, it's a great question. So, this woman had a weird odor, and she subsequently was found to have cervical cancer.

So let's talk about how cervical, or, well, cervical cancers call us generally by human papillomavirus. And certain varieties, particularly HPV, subtype 16. And so cervical cancer is a. They may be, at least in its underpinnings, a communicable disease. Well, it is a communicable disease, and it can be prevented by vaccinating our kids against those virulent subtypes. But anyway, so when you have cancer, you get these cells, and they're not growing right. They just grow crazy. And if you look at them under the microscope, even an untrained eye, can a lot of times tell cancer cells from normal cells because they just look all whack.

You know, the nuclei are all goofy-looking, and they've got more or less cytoplasm than normal, and it's just some sort of random. Not normal shapes, yeah. Sheets of just weird-looking cells. Well, anyway, they, the tumors a lot of times don't have good blood supply, and they'll try to recruit blood supply to themselves. But even that's wacky. and so the cells will die off quicker even as they're growing faster they don't die off fast enough unfortunately

that would be great if they did and so that may be what was going on she may have had some what we call necrosis of tumor cells that were just dying and then sloughing off and then she had all this extra these cells in there and the body's got to do something with them

and that will cause an odor and those cells can also be food for yeast and bacteria and stuff too. So that's most likely what was going on. And yeah, you've got to be careful. You get down there and go, honey, I think you've got cervical cancer again. She goes running to the OBGYN. You've just said she's got a stanky vagina.

Uh-oh. That's going to be painful. And there's no cancer there. So I've heard of cancer sniffing dogs and stuff, and that may be some of this. You know, their noses are just so much more attuned. to their environment than ours are. Well, anyway, all right, well, let's get out of here. I'm about half-ass today.

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