Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 316 - Keto and Heart Disease

Episode Date: June 14, 2018

Dr Steve and crew discuss new research on "high protein diets" and heart disease. Also dementia and Lyme disease, ramp salt, seasonal allergies, and more. PLEASE VISIT THE NEW IMPROVED Stuff.doctorsteve.com simplyherbals.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's got it's buffered saline with some peppermint oil in it. And a few other proprietary. Oh, really? Is there some other proprietary stuff in here? Look at this label. Cliff, you're young. Can you read that fucking label? Oh, Jesus.

Yeah, oh, thank you. No. Thank you, and it's on Cricket, too. I've got my reading glasses if anybody needs to. Okay, see if you can read it. Okay. Okay, here you go. Oh, shit.

I got that back. All right. I got you. There has to be some rule against making the text so small that no one can read it because what it's really saying is, you know, arsenic and. Yes. Flying squirrel feces. Flying squirrel feces.

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I take a picture of it with my phone. Yeah. And then I blow it up. Yeah. It's all good. All right. Just shoot it in your nose and be done with it. No, it's good.

It's the greatest stuff in the world. And I'll have to tell you this. Now, this you're not selling on your. on your website at simplyerbils.net, but that stuff you gave me for, it was Xanthium, I think, for allergies. Yeah, it's called Xanthium nasal form. It's the best sinus formula I've ever seen.

And it was really good. And I was really surprised by that. It tasted like horseshit. No. Now, it's, you know, it's doing something. It's not just sugar pill. It's not a sugar pill. That's right.

All of those things, they don't bother, and I think this is fine, adding other things to adulterate it to make it taste better or something, you know. We don't have a bunch of fillers and sugars and stuff just to make them sweet. Right. Or some weird coating. There's nothing extra in there. It's just the stuff mushed into a pill. So it tastes like Earth. It tastes like Earth.

Yeah, that's what it tastes like. It tastes real. The way I describe it. It tastes like what it's supposed to taste like. I was surprised. But again, anecdotal evidence, totally. But I was impressed by that. You know, 4,000 years of traditional Chinese medicine, they figured some stuff out.

There's no question about that. But anyway. And you know me. I'm an empiricist, so I can't make any claims for this. So I can just say it would have made me feel better. That's all I care about. It's all about me. It's all about me.

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Let Dr. Scott You know Pick a little on his ukulele or whatever that stupid He just won't let me plug in He'll let me sit up Yeah, you'll look good. He'll out play.

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That's the one issue. But come and then, you know, I don't know, go do something else for the rest of the weekend. And if you're interested in archives of this show, of course, after this first eight minutes, why would you be? But go to premium.com. You can get our full archive for a buck 99 a month. You can subscribe.

And the best place to listen to our show if you're going to do the premium route is to go to the app store and get the weird medicine app. And that can be obtained at the Google Play or the iTunes app store. All right, all right, very good. We've got a couple of people on hold. I just wanted to throw out. There was an article recently that came out about high protein diets that were linked to heightened risk for heart disease. And this was even for vegetarians.

So this is from, I don't know, QZ.com, not the prestigious medical journal. But I'll just read you from this article. It says, for 20 years, a team of researchers watched more than 2400 Finnish men eat. Um, well, anyway, okay. Were they, were they in the clean plate

club? Anyway, sorry. Anyway. Oh, shit. Well, I'm just talking myself. Okay.

So they watched 2,400 men from Finland eat. And what they learned gave us a glimpse into some of the long-term health effects of one of today's most popular dieting fads. So they link. this to the Atkins diet. And this is where all of these articles tend to go awry. They're saying ketogenic

diets and Atkins diets are now unhealthy. And they said this new study published this week by the American Heart Association shows that eating a lot of protein derived from both plants and animals is linked to an

elevated risk of cardiovascular failure. Even still, the University of Finland researchers undertook the study note in the paper that many unanswered questions about their findings remain. For example, it's not clear how and why various amino acids abundant in animal protein sources lead to poor heart function. Okay, they didn't say that. What they said was there was a correlation between people who ate a high protein diet

and the risk of heart failure later in life. Now, the numbers were unbelievably small out of, and that I've got to get these numbers, but out of 2,400 people, there may have only been 10 people with heart failure. And, you know, so the absolute risk is very small. The relative risk looks high. So, well, let's say in the group that weren't on the high protein diet, and they have to compare them to a normal population that is matched, and I don't know that they did that.

So I have not delved deep into this study yet, but I will over the next couple of weeks. so you have to match those cohorts or groups of people that you're following and what if there was you know if there were seven people in that group and 10 people and I'm just throwing out a number you know it could have been 70 and 100 I don't know but the so that the relative risk would be 30 percent right there's 30 percent more heart failure in the group that ate a high protein diet but the absolute risk was three of out of 2,400. So the risk to the individual is very low. So we'll have to see. Now, the thing is, I have lots of other data. So let's look at this one.

The effects of, this is a study in the journal Nutrients. And this is one of those systematic reviews where they look at, you know, it's a review article where they're looking at other things. And I just lost my place here. Shit. Hang on, hang on, hang on, sorry. Okay. Okay, so based on the available literature,

a ketogenic diet. Now, a ketogenic diet is a low carbohydrate diet. And Atkins is a ketogenic diet. It's a necessarily high protein in the sense that Atkins said that you should eat lots of green leafy vegetables and then lean animal protein and you can and fat wasn't the enemy you can have some fat uh and he was a proponent of the low carbohydrate diet well you know by just by lowering the carbohydrates you're increasing the amount of relative amount of protein in your diet right but it doesn't have to be you know the true adkins diet is not what a lot of people think it is well i just

eat steak and bacon all day that adkins would be rolling over in his grave if he thought that's People were calling that the Atkins diet because that's not what it is. You know, spinach, lettuce, kale, all that stuff was a big part of Atkins diet. Those were all low carbohydrate vegetables, you know, green leafy vegetables. Well, anyway, it says here, based on the available literature, ketogenic diet may be associated with some improvements in some cardiovascular risk factors such as obesity, type 2 diabetes, good cholesterol levels. it says these effects are usually limited in time and they said as ketogenic diets are often rich in fat some negative effects could happen and um so anyway so you know there there are lots of other studies that I could pull up that show true beneficial effects of a ketogenic diet particularly when it comes to type 2 diabetes and obesity so um you know there's this This is not the answer to everything. And I don't like it when journalists take high protein and then say, well, that means he's talking about the Atkins diet or other, you know, ketogenic type diets because that's not necessarily what they're talking about.

They're talking about people who eat a relatively increased amount of protein compared to other people on the planet. You know, you can have an Atkins diet eat the same amount of protein in anybody else. you know you don't have to eat six chicken you know royal bacon wrapped chicken right right chicken fillets yeah i mean my perfect atkins meal was always a grilled chicken salad you know and the bulk of that was the bowl of salad you know with a little bit of chicken on it or tofu even you know so anyway nobody's going to tell me that meal is unhealthy it's insane to to assert that okay great all right yeah yeah Dr. Scott's, a pescatarian, could you ever imagine someone telling you that a salmon, grilled salmon salad, like they serve at our local fusion place, you know, it's spinach, vinaigrette, strawberries, or whatever, and then a nice piece of baked or broiled salmon.

How in the hell can anyone assert that that's unhealthy? That's a typical Atkins type meal, a typical ketogenic meal. It would be tough for someone to sell it to me, that's for sure. I agree that these people, you know, I used to call it the Redneck Atkins diet. I don't know why I called that, but a lot of my people I talked to are like, yeah, I eat that meat diet. And, you know, they were just literally eating steak, mayonnaise, cheese, and bacon. Now, you will lose weight on that. There's no question about it.

Because you're malnourished. Yeah. You know? Right. You can lose weight on a high carbohydrate diet, too. The Doof used to do this thing called the rice diet, and it was a diet high in carbohydrates, and those people would lose weight. That's another way that you can lose weight.

Again, those people were pretty relatively malnourished. So I've always liked the typical balanced ketogenic diet or Vinnie Tortrich's no sugar, no grains diet. In this. Because it's balanced. And you're getting all the nutrients that you need. You're not really losing anything. We don't need all those carbohydrates. Our ancestors didn't have them.

You know, think of a caveman running around a hunter-gatherer. What would they eat? They didn't have bread. And they might have had potatoes if they knew how to dig them up or guava or, what is it, cassava root, you know, in sub-Saharan African countries. they'll have you know that's a staple but you don't have that all year round you know and you have to discover it first so they would have had carbohydrates when there were berries on the trees and when the grasses were the grasses were um after they flowered it gone to seed and even that's

not a whole lot of carbohydrate that's more a you know grain product and and you're getting all that the brand along with it so anyway all right so i call a little bit of bullshit on this study. And we'll look into the actual relative versus absolute numbers in a future show. Scott remind me to do that, will you? Sure. Okay. All right, area code 617, Matt, you're on weird medicine. Hey, Dr. Steve. You guys and gal's great. Hey, thanks. So I have a brother, older brother, he was diagnosed with early onset dementia around 58. Oh, my goodness. He's about 64 now, and it's really kicked in. Yeah. And so, The question is, what should I expect at this point?

Okay. Yeah, I'm sorry to hear about your brother. I hate dementia almost as much as I hate cancer because, you know, where cancer ravages the body, dementia just ravages the personality. You know, it's not just the mind. It's not just the memory, but the person goes away over time. And what tends to happen with patients with progressive dementia is a long, slow decline. punctuated by episodes, particularly at the end of decompensation. So what may happen is he may get a urinary tract infection and it'll kick him into a higher

level of dementia, meaning worsening, worsening, memory loss. Or physical trauma, patients with early dementia who break their hip, for example, and then have to have their hip repaired, it'll do good for a couple of days, and then they'll just be bouncing off the walls. And then this long, slow, inexorable decline to the point where they lose the ability to smile, they'll lose the ability to eat on their own, lose the ability to walk. And when the patient is having difficulty walking and eating and is no longer even talking to you, has maybe, you know, one word that they use consistently.

That's a time when you can consider hospice. Because what you've got to decide is, would my brother want to be kept alive artificially under these circumstances, given this? And it's his decision. He just can't speak it anymore. So you all, whoever his primary decision maker is, has to make decisions based on his values and desires. And that's for the medical students out there.

This is a board question. That's called the principle of substituted judgment. So the family has to start making decisions. Now, let me tell you something, Matt. you spoke sign language and your brother was deaf. And let's just hypothesize that you're his decision maker. I would speak to you. You would sign to him.

He would sign to you. You would speak to me. Any decisions made in that loop, right? Wouldn't be your decisions. They'd be his, right? This is an analogous situation, except now you have to reach into the past to get those answers. But when you reach into the past to get those answers, you know, if your brother said, you know, if I was ever totally debilitated, I wouldn't want to be kept alive.

artificially. When you communicate that to the health team, that's not your decision. That's his. You're just speaking with his voice because he can't. And for whoever his decision maker is, he is counting on them to make decisions for him based on what his values are. So it's... Right. So fortunately, before his decline, he did make that decision with his wife. So she's in that position to make those decisions. Good. Okay. And he did... So a quick, Yeah, go ahead. A quick follow-up. About a month ago, he had a grand mal.

Yeah. And then he ended up getting the MRIs and all that, and because he fell at the time. Okay. And he ended up being okay. He was discharged from the hospital like a day, yeah, day later. And for about three to five days afterwards, he clearly wasn't back to the person he was 10 years ago. But he was quite happy and very lucid. Have you seen that?

That's fascinating, isn't that? Yeah. Seizures, you know, that's the principle behind electroconvulsive therapy for depression. You get these folks and they have what we call psychomotor retardation where they've just become so slow and they're just so weak and, you know, and no medication will help them. And then they'll induce a seizure with electroconvulsive therapy and obviously that's a last resort. and it amazingly works. It doesn't matter how you induce the seizure. They used to do it by giving them an overdose of insulin, believe it or not.

And then they found a more humane way to do it. And then they get better. So, you know, there could be a component of depression in your brother, or it could be that just the seizure, you know, affected his brain in a positive way for a short period of time. Patients with dementia, about 10% of those will have at least one unprovoked seizure. And, you know, seizure disorder is just, you know, basically static in the brain that just runs wild. And it usually is self-limited.

If it's not self-limited, it's a medical emergency. It's called status epileptic. So most seizures will come and then the brain has a mechanism for shutting them down once it starts. But, yeah, that's rough, man. I'm sorry to hear about your brother, and that's a relatively early age to get dementia, too. And I'm assuming they did a complete workup on him and didn't find, you know, some weird thyroid disorder or anything like that. Correct you. Yeah, he was in the hospital for a couple of days.

Okay, okay. So you're being okay, in that respect. Scott, go ahead, Scott. I've got something interesting, may or may not be relevant, but, you know, Chris Christopherson was diagnosed with, with, dementia and they felt like he had Alzheimer's and was and was really deteriorating quickly he he had some um so they put him on anti-seizure medications because he had a couple seizures and he had aches and pains all over and but you know for for in his mid-70s that was an issue um and they thought he was going to die of of the Alzheimer and he wound up having Lyme disease now

yeah and I'm not saying that's what he may have I'm just saying that that is not you know For someone that young, I would at least have someone rule it out. Dr. Steve, I mean, I'm not trying to give any false hope. No, no, no, no. But that's a discussion to at least consider. I mean, we need to make sure that we... Yeah, go ahead, man. Right.

Yeah, and Dr. Scott, a great point. We ran across some literature on that five or six years ago, and we made sure he was tested for that. Good, good or for bad. You know, that was not. Okay. He did not or not. Well, at least we know. Yeah.

And just to talk a little bit about Lyme disease, Lyme disease is caused by a Borrelia species that is very closely related to syphilis. And so that's why you have, with syphilis, you'll have a primary derminologic phase, right? And then it goes away. So you get the shanker, then it goes away. And then you have this latent phase. And then when it comes back, you know, it affects the brain and the heart and other places like that. And so tertiary syphilis sucks really, really bad. And Lyme disease, kind of the same thing.

You get this primary dermatologic manifestation. You get this weird rash. I've seen it. I used to practice in Vermont, and I've seen it. And then if you don't treat it right then, it'll go away. You think you're fine. And then when it comes back, then you've got problems. And I guess that's what happened to Chris Christopherson.

But anyway. Well, shoot. Yeah, man. Keep in touch with me. If there's anything I can do to, you know, help walk you through this, I'd be more happy to my email is let me see weird medicine at riotcast dot com you can try that one or weird

medicine xm at gmail.com or you can just go to dr steve.com and click contact and ignore the warnings that's not for you guys that listen to the show the warnings that say don't don't leave medical questions here and um right so okay we'll do that we'll follow up

guys really appreciate your help thanks best of luck that's the you know the nerve Central nervous system is the last frontier for medicine. And eventually we will figure out a way not only to prevent Alzheimer's, but to treat those cases when they happen, or at least arrest its development. So it's coming.

That's probably, I'm guessing 15, 20 years off, but they're on it. All right. That's good. Thanks, man. Okay, be good. let's take area code 304 you're on weird medicine hey what's up doc hey man

what can we do for you I work for ramp salt oh oh it's the ramp salt dude yeah so we were just talking about you or did you hear us and that's why you called in oh I called in because you're probably one of the coolest dudes I've ever seen oh what you're making his head sweat

bullshit We just plug your stuff. I've been plugging my stuff, so I can't really argue with that. No, it's awesome, man. Everybody here has tried it, except for Cliff, the intern. And I've actually, I think I have a bottle for you as well. Do you cook? Yeah, he cooks.

Okay. You've tried it, right, you mean? And Scott, you did you try it on some fish? Yeah, I made it in fish, and I made a little kind of a taco or a burrito thing no, and throw it in there just as extra seasoning. Yeah, it was very good. It's way more complex and subtle than, like, garlic salt. Yes.

It's way more. And if you guys want to check it out, go to wv rampsalt.com. Now, what was this controversy about somebody stole your website or something? What was that about? In 1995, I developed this system. I was sitting around the campfire. And everybody was talking about, we're going to make cookbook. Okay.

I decided, okay. Well, if you can make this, if you can make that, I know how to make ramp salt. It took me a little over 10 years, and I developed a process, and came up with the ramp salt. So it's actually hard to do. I just figured you just dried out a bunch of ramps and crumbled them up and threw it in with some kosher salt. I don't dry all of anything. I have ramp salt in my house right now. I've been curing for over 10 years.

Holy crap. Okay, interesting. And it's the best-pacing called ever. You're going to find out, just packaged up something for you. I'm going to send it to you. It's amazing. Cool, man. If you open the lid, make sure there's two or three people around you,

because when you open it, it's a one-ounce jar, and it will definitely make your mouth water. Wow. Okay. That's what I'm talking about. I was in a relationship, and I moved to a new place. and the mail wasn't forwarded to me. And I didn't update my domain.

Oh, yeah. So I got a, I logged into my website, and it said, huge domains. Oh, no. I sell it back to me for $5,000. Oh, God, I hate that. I hate people. That ain't happening. So I said, fuck you.

Excuse my language. I know you guys don't. No, we've never heard. We never heard that word before. Yeah, okay. So I said, fuck you. I'll just add WV to it, and I'll get it back. Oh, so it used to be RampSalt.com, and now it's WVRAMSalt.com.

Let's look up Ramsalt.com. Let me see. Let's just look them up and see what they're doing with it, because I'll bet you it's, you can buy it for five bucks right now. I don't look I sell it to you for three grants. Because I had to buy Dr. Steve.com. Oh, yeah, Ramsalt.com is for sale. buy now. Okay, they dropped the price to $23.95.

Yeah, and on July 1st, I don't really want to publicize this, but on July 1st, it becomes for sale again. Unless it's automatically stated. Oh, I see. I'm going to steal it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder how much they got it for. I'm wonder how much these places get these things for.

Fucking $10. Yeah. For nothing. Yeah. I want to exploit you. I walk around my house and buy websites all day. You can go on who is and look up, refrigerator potatoes.com. I probably own it. Right.

Okay. Well, okay, dude, I am totally rooting for you to get this domain back. So when did you say it's going on sale again? July 1st. Okay. Keep us in the loop just because I love drama. Yes. And I want the little guy to win because this pisses me off because I almost lost

Dr. Steve.com the same thing. I thank God. I caught it because it was just getting ready to be taken away from me. And same deal. I'd miss the emails. And so I've got it set on auto renew and text me and all this stuff because I know sure is shit. Yeah, go ahead. All my new stuff is on auto renew.

I didn't know I could even do that. Yeah. I'm literally just a redneck that lives in the fucking wood and make a product that I'm really proud of. Yeah. No, it's really good. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm getting fucked. Yeah.

Dan is just a dick, though. We're absolutely going to root for you to get this stupid domain back. Now, you know, of course, all the maniacs who listen to this, they're going to be sitting there waiting to try to get it themselves. So if you assholes do that, at least sell it back to him for $50. If you get it for $10, you can make $40 profit, but no more than that. $100 says just based on what we're talking about, just going to auto-read it.

You think that's what they do? They just auto-renew everything. Why wouldn't you? Yeah, I guess. I was number one. Yeah. I had that website since 1995. Oh, wow.

I was number one. It's typed in the word ramp. I was on info, bigfoot, Yahoo, Google. Yeah. I was number one. Well, let's see what, okay, let's see what happens when we Google Ramps now. Let's see. Go ahead.

You'll go to L something salt factory or whatever fuck it is. Okay, yeah, Eater.com. Yeah, HuffingtonPost.com. Oh, yeah, ramp. Oh, no, that's enterprise content delivery. Let me see. Let me put in ramps. There we go.

Now, if you type in WVRAM salt. Oh, yeah. Well, of course. If you type in weird medicine, I mean, weird medicine comes up first, but let's see. I know, but I'm trying to eat brands. I'm sitting there's day after day telling people, hey, you don't need to buy anything, just click me yeah okay now here this jq dickinson salt works is selling it yep and then uh that's salt interest it's where the salt started yeah okay Washington green grocer how to make

your own yeah I'm not seeing you oh boy that sucks okay yeah don't it okay so here's how you get your uh and we'll we'll talk about this off the air but one thing that we need to do is linked to you and if other people link to your website you'll move up in those Google rankings so that's why I keep telling people just log on. All right

cool man we're on it all right I have a medical question for you yeah sure for the last month every day when I wake up my eyes are full of good yep

can almost not see and all through the day My eyes are watering. I've never had allergies before. And I don't really do any. You do now. You do now. Yes.

So you need to get two things. During the acute phase of this, when your eyes are watering during the day, I would get the over-the-counter drop called Zadator. And Zadetor is an antihistamine drop. And, you know, it used to be prescription only. It's really works well. Now, the other thing that you may want to get, because when you're allergic like this, you know, you're just wiping off the nice coating over the eye, the sort of lubricating coating over the eye itself. Get an eye drop called Sistine Ultra, S-Y-S-T-A-N-E-U-R-A-L- and that will re-lubricate your eye, and it'll last almost all. day so you can put it in you put the zadatory in before you get in the shower do your

thing stretch your stuff and get your clothes on then as you're going out the door put the sustain in and that should get you through the day and then uh these allergy you're allergic to something that's in the air wouldn't it be hilarious if it were ramps but uh you're allergic to something and most of these things are yeah it's hilarious these uh these things are seasonal and uh you usually the time when they're producing whatever antigen they're producing is usually two to three weeks and then you'll be done with it so all right buddy i'm trying to read this little bottle so i can tell you what my local pharmacist told me to get okay and all i can read we'll wait bright red label just get do what i told you to do fuck that guy anyway duck thank you you okay man check him out check men out at

west virginia rampsalt wvvrampsolve.com really is a cool product and I don't mind plugging it yeah it's really good this cool guy he just reached out to send us some it's like hell yeah I'll plug that the way thing you try the new one

okay yeah I can't wait yeah I'm looking forward to it thanks man see you dude see yeah thanks for the salt okay Area code 954 is on hold Let's see here Yeah, don't go away

From Miami Area Code 954 We'll get you on the next show So it'll be Take us about five minutes And then we'll do one more And then we'll be done for the day All right

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Go to our website at Dr.steve.com for schedules and podcasts and other crap. Check out our friend Ben at West Virginia ramp salt.com. And Scott, you got anything new on, uh, on, uh, on, uh, simply herbals these days? No, just at nasal spray, we use so much of that stuff. Eventually, I'll make it a tap it for them. You're going to make your fortune on nasal rats. Let's hope so.

That and beer. That and beer. Yeah, what's going on with our beer permit? You don't want to... Going in front of the beer board on Tuesday, keep your fingers. We're good to go. All right. Everything is lined up.

Everything is lined up. At the beer run in Kingsport, Tennessee, and we're moving to a new location. We will be about two minutes from the Allendell so people can come to the comedy show and come straight to beer. and afterwards for food and beer. All right, we'll see you in one week for the next edition of Weird Medicine. Check your stupid nuts for lumps. Quit smoking, get off your asses.