Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 318 - Super Android 23

Episode Date: June 27, 2018

Dr Steve and crew (including DJ John X and Daniel Renteria, AKA "Official Aledin" on soundcloud) discuss Ketogenic diets with Chef Shannon, and data on treating seizures with low carb diets. PLEASE VISIT: stuff.doctorsteve.com simplyherbals.net Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We also have in the studio Super Android 23, aka the Moogfest Posse. We've got John, I won't use any last names. Daniel, you might want me to use your last name if you go plug something. We've got John on the iPad. Hello, John. Say hello to your fans. Hey there, guys. And we have Daniel, who's on the Chord C. Oscillator. They're going to be doing music for us today.

How's everybody doing out there? These are all guys I met at Moogfest. We were supposed to have a bunch of chicks here from Moogfest as well, and now it's just a sausage fest. Helicopter party, as they say. Dr. Scott is on sabbatical. Lady diagnosis, no clue where she is. She was supposed to be bringing a friend to her, so we'll see.

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That's Super Android 23. I just named you guys that. Dude, that's actually a cool, cool little name there. Yeah, I like that. I like that last little groove that was going on, too. I felt like I was in, like, I don't know, like the club scene of some superhero movie or something. Like, Blades walking through. He's about to cut somebody's head off.

Because they always have the sort of movie, you know, movie EDM. I'll tell you what. We were at MoGFest, and Daniel, I think you were working that. Go ahead. You guys can go ahead and sit. Yeah, I think you may have been working this one instead of attending it. But that author and Punisher, did you happen to see that guy? No, I didn't.

Yeah, I was volunteering there. You got to talk into that mic. Yeah, I was volunteering there, so I didn't really get to go. This dude, he does heavy metal EDM. It's the only way I can say it. And it's all real industrial. He creates his own controllers. so he's got like this leather lever that he moves up and down to change the pitch of the of the electric guitar sound sick yeah

oh my god page and I you know we were the only everybody else would just sort of standing there I was going out of my mind because I didn't know you could do that you know do like a heavy metal heavy metal version of EDM and he had this thing that looked like it was a lathe sort of like a lathe sort of like a lathe the end of a lathe and then he puts his hand in it and he goes like that and he moves it forward and it does the bass drum

and he moves it backward and he does like the snare or tom tom and then he's with this hand it is the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life I am a huge fan

where people get into it like a heavy metal concert no one but they were I mean ask page she'll tell you she pointed out to me she said look around you everyone is just standing there and you're 62 years old and you're

motherfucking everybody actually I was there for that I do remember talking to the mic brough I do I do remember that being there that day actually that was awesome yeah god that was

that blew me away so anyway so we're actually going to a place called the hideaway tonight Cliff you're invited I sent you an invite to see a band called the pithia I know nothing about them other than the hideways supposed to be a pretty cool place. That's tonight? Yeah, it's

tonight. Oh, I'll come. Okay, all right. What time does that start? Ten. Oh, perfect. Perfect. Okay, cool. Yeah. So we'll be there. So anybody that's listening live, if you're anywhere near Johnson City, Tennessee, that's where we're going to be. Oh, and that is, John, can you go let them in? That's, I think that's lady diagnosis. You'll see a statu-esque

blonde with perfect TTGR. That'll be her. For those who don't know, that's a tis. to gut ratio. It is 2018. All right, Harvey. Shut the fuck up. Fortunately, she's cool with it.

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That is for sure. You're not going to, I mean, if there's one thing you can guarantee, you're going to, there's some other guarantees you'll get in Tennessee. But like, but if you're talking to a company, for the most part, sorry, I'm peeking. That's okay. For the most part, you're going to get some excellent, you know, good old home-fashioned customer service. They really are the best. Oh, okay, excellent. Okay, so that must mean that Lady Diagnosis is here and she brought beer.

You want? And ice. And ice. Okay. Well, I have a cooler downstairs. I need that. She wanted to know if you had one up here. I don't. I don't.

Okay. Yeah, I have an opener. I, dude, I own a beer store. I have an opener on me 24-7. Here we go. So these are going to be a little bit more looser. shows because we've got folks in here Daniels never heard the show I'm sure

yeah this is my first time really being introduced to this show and I actually looked it up on YouTube and whatnot oh you did okay I did I did so it's not like I'm going into this completely blind right that's always more fun sometimes that's the better way to do it like when you have no preconceived notion do you know DJ Who Kid yeah yeah you know who I'm talking about so I did a show with him

and he didn't know who the hell I was obviously And we were talking about, I don't know, ejaculation or something. I was using the word splooge and jizz and stuff. And he just said, damn, a doctor who says jiz. Well, you know, you're just keeping it scientifically correct. That's, you know, that's clearly. Laman's terms. Well, we were best buddies after that.

As a matter of fact, he and I did a Christmas card together, and I'll show it to you. And it's just me and my tie and DJ Who Kid looking cool as hell just leaning on me. It just says, you, my doctor, with an A. That's actually really cool. That's really cool. So that's one of my prized possessions. All right. Simplyerbils.net.

That's Dr. Scott's website. Simplyherbils.net. And don't forget, et ncom. We're having an event. Cliff will be there actually performing. And it is August 2nd in a little town called Kingsport, Tennessee, in a amphitheater behind a place

called Allendale Mansion and now this place holds 1,200 people. When Tim Dillon came, we had 250 show up it looked like nobody was there. So we really need a lot of people to show up for this.

There's going to be craft beer. There's going to be let lady diagnosis in you guys. I have the cooler downstairs, but it's okay. We'll get it in between shows. You look lovely today. Hello.

Hello. This is, John. This is Daniel. Hi, John again. Diane, but she goes by Lady Diagnosis. It's a long story. It's an in-joke. Don't worry about it. We used to have a lady die that we made fun of, but now she's in a nursing home. We don't make fun of her anymore. So she used to be the alternate universe Lady Die because it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter anyway. They don't care. They don't care. It sounds like a cool superhero name. Well, it sounds like it sounds like it, because

I mean, if you're superpowers to diagnose people, I mean, that's right. But it's a very niche. Like, your villains are going to be very specific. That's right. And very few. It always cracks me up like the Flash always has speedsters that is up against. And, you know, Superman always has invulnerable enemies and stuff. So, yeah, lady diagnosis, the superhero would have people with weird, weird medical problems.

Your arch villain would be house because you never came. Hand that you never know. Lovehouse though. Yeah, right? I miss that show from the way through. I saw a couple. Oh, yeah. I like it, but I don't know.

I just never, never coming to. That's all right. I can't watch medical shows because it just reminds me too much of work. And they always piss me off because they get everything wrong. Yeah. Gray's Anatomy. My wife used to watch that. And it's like, these interns are 40 years old.

They never get out of internship. They used to. hang out in some patient's room that was in a coma and just hang out there and just talk and it's like that that is completely inappropriate and would never be allowed they'd be fucking all the time and yeah and and and then oh one day they're operating on a baby's heart the next the next day they're operating in somebody's spine those two things pediatric cardiothoracic surgery and neurosurgery or two it's a really small hospital. It's all true, Dr. Steve. It's on TV. That show stresses me out because if I'm to believe Gray's Anatomy, then that means every other week a nurse and or a group of doctors are getting blown up.

A patient's going to come in with a grenade in his chest. This is just an everyday thing. I can't watch Graze Anatomy. It's too stressful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm not a doctor, though. Because it is true. Yeah, this is why I never watched it. You know? I was just like, no. It's so, I don't know. It's been on for like 100 seasons,

so, so I mean, clearly they've... The main guy died on that. The hot guy. You guys have got to talk into the mic, though. That's the only thing. Pull it closer to you if you want to or get it to where you guys can both sort of share that mic. There you go. That's good. There you go. Okay. Etncom. Check it out.

And it's August 2nd. It's free. Just show up. It is a Thursday night. But come and then check out the music scene in the area. If you come, you know, I'll buy you a beer. Just come say hello. And I may be playing music that night if my elbow is the surgery on my elbow is healed enough. So if not, it'll be Mike Milhorn and the low expectations.

So, and check out premium.com if you're a new listener and you want to go back and listen to old, old content. We're 13 minutes in, haven't taken a single medical question, so we probably need to do that. I apologize for that. So I didn't miss anything great. No. All right. Let's see who's been on hold the longest.

Area Code 503, you are on weird medicine. Let's see how this goes. Hey, Dr. Steve, this is Shannon, Chef Shannon from Keto, Simple Keto for Life.com. Oh, boy, nice plug right off the bat. Excellent. Thank you for being here. Hey, no, I'm just saying it's that I was invited to call in,

and I don't really have any questions, but I do have a couple of comments. Number one is TTGR. What is that about? Lady Diagnosis. Nothing. It doesn't mean anything. Explain it, Dr. Stey.

No, it doesn't because. No, no, because here's a thing. We used to, when she first started on the show, we would always introduce her as Lady Diagnosis, the woman with the perfect TTGR. And then the whole Harvey Weinstein thing happened. It was like, eh, maybe we probably shouldn't be. Maybe we should hold off them. But then today, I couldn't resist.

Well, just, you know, I have that and I own that as well. At 53 years old, because of keto. As a chef and as a keto tribal person, this is just, you know, I've got there. I've owned it after all these years of trying to be someone. What? We'll give you another round of applause. I'm actually glad you called in because, well, for many reasons, it's awesome to have more women actually call in the show because this tends. Not only is the studio a sausage festival.

I was warned about that. I was warned about that. It's like, oh, yeah, there's not a lot of gals that call in. Yeah, no, that's great. Let me help you. Help me. We have our staff listeners, but that's a nice change. And also, I am a huge proponent of keto diet.

And this is what's happened. If you all are interested in the research on this, I just posted an article on dr steve.com about this effing article where the the media went insane saying that people with high high protein diets were had an increased risk of heart failure now and well it was heart failure was what but that's not what they said they'd say oh you know people on high protein diets have you know are increasing their risk of heart disease and stuff and what if you read the actual study it was not these people were not necessarily on ketogenic diets ketogenic diets have so much data showing that they're beneficial in a lot of ways but what happens is right uh they get

equated with a high protein diet now if you think and i'll say my piece and then i then i want you to say and tell me your name again okay my name is shannon lewellman shannon okay so um chef shannon Chef Shannon. So these, they were equating high-protein diets in people's minds with Atkins and ketogenic diets. Now, Atkins would be rolling over in his grave if he knew that people were eating steak and bacon slathered in mayonnaise and cheese and calling that the Atkins diet because that is not the Atkins diet. And butter. Right. Those people will lose weight, but they'll lose weight because they're malnourished.

And the true Atkins diet. And they'll die early, and they'll die early. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I actually read Atkins' book a million years ago, and his diet really was a diet high in green leafy vegetables. And fat is not the enemy. There's a modern amount of fat in that diet. But a perfect Atkins meal would be a nice spring salad with lots of green leafy vegetables, some cucumbers, whatever.

and maybe a piece of grilled salmon. Now, there's nobody, and I've said this a thousand times of the show, and I keep hammering at home, maybe to ad nauseum. But there's nobody in this world can convince me that that's an unhealthy meal, you know? But that is a perfect, classic Atkins-type meal. So the Atkins, yeah, go ahead, Lady Diagnosis. So what's the difference between Atkins and keto? I don't know what a keto diet is.

Well, Atkins diets are ketogenic diet. So let me run through the science. And I promise I'll let Chef Shannon talk. No, by all means. I'm very passionate about this. So when your body, okay, so there's a couple of ways that your body can store energy to convert to usable energy in the cells, right? And one way is to store this stuff called glycogen. Glycogen is, it's basically a starch.

You take a bunch of sugars and you link them together, which is what a potato is, right? It's a bunch of sugars linked together to make a starch. And you can store this glycogen, this molecule. A ton of it is stored in your liver, and then a lot of it is stored in muscle tissue. And when people are marathon runners and they hit the wall, those are people who have run out of glycogen. Okay. That's what's going on. And the body can convert it really quickly to energy.

Now, when you deplete your body's glycogen stores by not taking in a bunch of, of carbohydrates, what will happen is you'll start to burn fat. You have to. Now, you can also burn protein, and that's what you don't want to do. You don't want to start catabolizing your muscles. You want to only burn fat cells. So you have to take in enough protein so that the body doesn't go, oh, I've got to burn these muscles up, and it turns to fat. And then, I mean, it turns to the fat cells to produce energy. And when you, you break up fat cells to produce energy you're going to produce these things called ketone bodies and that can be detected in the urine and it's just a byproduct of breaking down fat for energy and so all it is and people so people

will say oh well that's dangerous because of those ketone bodies there's nothing inherently dangerous about ketone bodies at all um it's just that you will see them in people who have diabetic keto acidosis so diabetics when they present with with with diabetes their blood sugar will be 800 and their body is unable to use that sugar you know because they don't have any insulin to drive it into the cells so it's just sitting there and the cells are starving so the body goes well shit i've got to use something so now it's going to start burning um fat and then you get these ketone bodies and so the people and that's a life-threatening thing well people associate the ketone bodies in diabetic ketoacidosis with the life-threatening nature of diabetic

ketoacidosis, but that's just a byproduct. And so ketone bodies themselves, you can be in ketosis your whole life and not, it won't affect you. So anyway. So, Chef Shannon, how did you get to, and what I'm going to do is while you're talking, I'm going to pull up my article on Dr. Steve.com, and I can throw out some nice research on why ketogenic diets for some people are very not only do they lose weight but it's also beneficial for things like cardiovascular risk and other things so go right right right so no knock

yourself out so i i'm a classically trained chef i graduated from le cordon blue in 1997 and i have been chefing and cooking is my life it's not only part of my childhood but it's part of who i am today and I've also grown and raised in Southern California being afflicted with all these diets and things that women should do and don't so we can keep up with modern society and culture to remain thin and beautiful and all this stuff and I was part of that and then I went to culinary school and I realized hey food is what it's really all about how do I figure this out and how do I make food you know the best fuel for my body And then I also was hired by a magazine to participate in all these different diet trends, South Beach, vegan, vegetarian.

And I did all this and I wrote about it. And then they asked me, hey, we want you to do keto. And I had already been a private chef to an NBA team, NBA basketball team in Portland, Oregon. And I had watched the way that they wanted to eat. And I had been providing them food the way they wanted to eat. And I understood that it's about protein. It's about high fat, low carbohydrate. And then they asked me, this magazine said,

we want you to do something about ketogenic. And I did. And I loved everything about it. It was real food. I felt great. I lost weight myself personally, but I didn't like the measuring. I didn't like the constant, you know, paying attention to every gram and everything that I ate.

And I was like, eh, I'm not that girl. There's five different levels of ketogenic way of eating. And I picked one. for me that was great, that worked perfectly. I'm 53 years old, which means I'm going through all these weird hippie, trippy changes in life. And I have never felt better. I've never looked better.

I've literally turned back my aging clock by about 20 years. Well, we'll be the judge of that. We need pictures. I'm more than happy to send you pictures, my darling. Just tell me when and where, and I'll do that. It's just for science. Totally for science. But this is how I base my future focus is why are American women falling apart over all these millions of different diets when all we have to do is eat real unprocessed food and avoid certain things that trigger our sugar mechanisms because sugar, whether it's potatoes that are converted into starch, which, you know, which ends up being sugar in our bodies and stored because we're not as active as we think we are.

truth is we're not as active as we think we are and that's basically you know what it's all about and so I started doing this for myself my self personally and I started putting myself out there and all these ketogenic Facebook pages and somebody on the outside quote unquote came up to me said you know what you should do this you should make this a thing you should make this your life you should make this your mission and I was like all right well I'm a chef and so for me food is my life and so someone on the outside come out and say this should be your life this should be your mission right people need to hear this it's kind of like a lazy keto but it's more than lazy keto it's about no more processed food right there's a million different

frozen foods and and and all these convenient foods out there that are keto but they're packed full of chemicals and synthetic additives that are not really part of what a true ketogenic way of eating is And I've refused to say the word diet because diet is to got the word diet it. Right. It's for the rest of your life. I probably should have asked for the Reader's Digest version of your story, but that's okay. Listen, I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry. This is the first time I've ever been invited to do something on a national platform. You're fine. Are you guys national? Yes. Well, we have the Sirius XM show. We have the Sirius XM show that is international. Where did she say she was okay?

We're the only five people listening, but that. well and there you guys are the only ones who want to listen to me right now yeah no no no we're totally into it totally into it i'm into it i'm going to read you something from the european yeah me too i'm going to read you something from the european journal of clinical nutrition this is not some bullshit medical journal this is a real journal and an international journal and it just i'm just going to read a portion of one of their conclusions says recent work over the last decade or so has provided evidence of the therapeutic potential of ketogenic diets in many pathologic conditions such as diabetes, polycystic ovary syndrome, acne, neurologic diseases,

cancer, and the amelioration of respiratory and cardiovascular disease risk factors. Now, I've always said that when you hear something that is a cure-all for everything, it's probably snake oil, This is the exception because there's solid science behind this stuff. And as you know, and as you know, there are the reason why the ketogenic diet even came to be was because the high fat that come into the brain help children and other individuals with epilepsy lessened their degree of seizures. That's right. And I mean, that's totally clinically documented.

Well, and then also. Let me throw something in on that. I've got this is from the annals of the occasionally. Academy of Neurology, ketogenic diet, and other dietary treatments for refractory, epilepsy in children. And it says, let me see, the efficacy of the ketogenic diet is better than most of the new anti-epileptic drugs. And so there's nothing wrong with fat, there's nothing wrong with fat per se.

It's just that in our culture over the several last decades have been, our generations have been fat is bad, fat as bad. But we're also looking at Ketergenic does not mean you could eat bacon and butter for the rest of your life. Ketergen said that. High plant fats, plant fats versus animal

fats. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, Daniel. Daniel wanted to say something. Go ahead. Yeah, I was just going to say, you know, I think at this point

or where we had society just kind of has this or has created this bad connotations that go with the word fat. Oh, yeah. You're not talking into the mic. Oh, exactly. Okay. Yeah. And going back to what you were saying about eating processed foods, even if somebody isn't necessarily following a specific diet, if you're not eating processed foods, that will, you know, make you healthier in general.

Sure. Well, we've talked about this a bunch of times that, so they did this study in Norway, right, where people who ate more fish had less cardiovascular events. So what is, what are the, what's the American way is you, so, okay, so we're going to. to take all these fish and put them in a vat and render them down to a pill, and then we're going to take the pill and think that that's somehow going to help us. Yeah, and it just turns out that if you eat the fish, you're not eating other shit that you shouldn't be eating. And so, because the fish oil pills did nothing. Seattle fish have been found, Seattle salmon and Oryk Pacific Northwest, and I came from the Pacific Northwest.

They've been found to have, like, opioids. in the flesh of the fish. Wow, yeah, because it gets into no, I'm not kidding, that's a study. People piss and, you know, so where are we going now? It comes from the sewer. People either flushing medication or urinating and defecating into the

you know, and then they process the water and they take out the they take out the stool and stuff, but you know, the water still has molecules suspended. Hey, Chef Shannon, let me ask you a question. Well, here's the thing. Fish is good and great, but be aware of where your fish is coming

from. Yeah, exactly. Have you ever cooked Escalar? She's just cracking herself up. Hey, Chef Shannon, have you ever cooked Escalar? Is she there? No, inviting me. Oh, really? Oh, okay. Escalar is also called Escalar. Escalar. Escalor, E-C-O-L-A-R. It's also called butterfish. And if you eat more than six. It's also called butterfish. And if you eat more than six ounces of this stuff, you will defecate pure orange oil for like 24 hours. It's hilarious.

And so let me ask you this. Why would you like me to eat that? I don't want you to eat it. I just wonder if you'd ever cook it. I want you to eat it. I'll be on it. I'd like the after story of this. You've got to call back in. How about this? How about this? I'll eat it with you together.

We'll do it together. We'll do an experiment together. I'll say I'm looking at, but I don't know. You can have a party and serve it to everybody. Yeah, it's supposed to be a delicacy, but it's like, why in the hell would anybody ever... I just wondered as a chef if you'd ever been asked to cook that stuff, because I went to a restaurant where they actually had. I'm a chef, and I'm a caterer, and I've worked for some pretty high-profile people, and no one has ever asked for that. But if they ever wanted to, as a chef and a caterer, that would be my job, and I would seek it, source it, and find it, make it, and serve it.

Or if they ever piss you off. If you ever find yourself on the show, Chop, you've got to just cook that. That's only reserved for my friends and family if they ever piss me off. So, Chef Shannon, plug your website. Do you have a book that you're plugging as well? I don't have a keto book that I'm plugging as well, but I will absolutely. Simple keto for the number four life.com. Okay.

And obviously Facebook. What's your Facebook, though? My Facebook is Simple Keto for Life. Oh, okay. And then your Twitter? It's number four. It's the number four. Okay, and your Twitter?

Simple Keto for life. What's your Twitter handle? Same thing. Oh, okay. All right. Well, you made it simple. Okay, once you get it once, you've got it. Well, no, I know, but here's the thing is I am a chef, and I'm a cook, and I do all what I do.

somebody reached out to me, a professional, reached out to me and said, hey, you should do this. And I was like, well, that's all great, but I'm not, I'm not socially media, I'm not a social media person. So she's done this for me, so her and I are business partners. It's like seeing the cat again on my behalf. Which is lovely, because all I really want to do is just be in a kitchen and write recipes and share them with people. Well, that's awesome. Are you drinking coffee right now? not nearly enough oh i think you are well i i think you're delightful and i'm so i'm so glad to

meet up with somebody i wish i had some of that whatever she had with someone else we can find you some no and cocaine's a hell of a drug it's only 10 30 in the morning here in arizona it's only 1030 in the morning but it's like 115 degrees already so that might be part of it. I don't know. Awesome. Well, listen, I'm so glad you're here, and I'm glad to have a kindred spirit on the old keto front. Check out my article at Dr. Steve.com.

If you check out my article at Dr. Steve.com. It's the top article that's up there right now. It's just called. I know the one about keto and heart disease. Yes. Dude, I've been there. I've been there. I've done my research.

You're all that. Awesome. You're all that and a bag of pork rinds with our keto. Friendly. There's nothing better than that. Can you make gourmet pork rinds? There has to be a way to do. Yes, please.

Because down here, you know, they're just chichagrones. And it's associated with rednecks eat pork rinds. But, you know, there's got to be a way that you can make a pork rind. If you can make pork belly into something good. Yeah, you got to class it up a little bit. Well, here's the thing. I lived on a community co-op as a chef. I lived on a community co-op in Oregon.

Oh, you were a chef there? In the country in Oregon. And we raised everything. And I can, I mean, if you need me to, I can send you pictures of the pigs that I've, you know, done these things. Oh, you shouldn't call those fat people that. You got to be nice, chef, Shannon. Yeah. You got to, come on, man.

But they were, but they were yummy. They were yummy. Let's just leave it at that. All right, good. Well, listen, thanks so much. Have a great day. Feel free to call in any time. and keep in touch with us on Twitter, okay?

Reach out to me, darling, bye. We'll do. Okay, thanks, bye. Goodness gracious. She's very into what she's talking about. It's 10.30 in the morning for her, damn. I need a nap now. She's hype.

Like, that's like, she's living her best. You know, I'll notice people from, there's certain states where if you're from there, you have to tell people that that's where you're from, I guess, just to remind people that the state is still open, like, that's weird. I think of Idaho, it's like, do people actually live there? Yeah, there's a couple of us here. I never heard anybody laying in Idaho. Or like Utah or something.

Yeah. What's in Utah? Yeah. If you're from North, if you're from North Dakota, you have to let someone know within 30 seconds of talking to them. We've been talking about keto a lot because I put that article up on Twitter. And I've got another call. Area Code 609, you're on Weird Medicine. Hey, Dr. Steve.

How are you? Did she steal your thunder? Because you were calling about keto too, right? I was, but mine's a little bit different. Okay, we'll just do a whole damn keto show. So, question. Hell yeah. Okay, so my mother is trying to figure out how to reduce her seizures.

She's 72 years old. She just had a large meningioma surgery like three or four years ago. Yeah, meningioma. It's pretty dicey for a little bit, and she's on a lot of medicine, but they've started to reduce it. Now she's only on two different meds. And she went to the doctor and tried to say, hey, if I do a keto diet, you know, would you think about reducing even more? And they said, no. So I'm trying to get her sold on keto, but she's afraid to try it because she doesn't know if she's going to be able to tell if it's even working since she won't get off the med.

Right, right, right. Well, that's the thing. You know, if you're taking a medication every day to prevent something, how do you know if it's working? Well, if it's something, like if she was having seizures every day and then she starts taking a pill and now she's, has a seizure every six months you can tell but now she's on meds and uh she goes on the ketogenic diet is that going to how is she going to know if it's um doing anything if the meds were working perfectly to prevent her seizures so yeah so the the thing that she could do if she's interested in doing it and the research shows that ketogenic diets work for adults too not just kids that um they

and she can just go ahead and do it and then as they're reducing her meds, if they get her all the way off and she never has another seizure, then maybe it helped. It's hard to know whether her seizures have just resolved now that her brain is healed after having that meningioma removed. There's no way to tell. The only way to do it would be to not do the ketogenic diet now and let them taper her off her medications. And if she starts having seizures, then go on the ketogenic diet, see if they improve. That would be really the only way to demonstrate for sure that that diet is actually preventing those seizures. But, you know, I don't know if I would, you know, that's, that's a little bit dicier way to do things,

you know, but that would be one, one potential answer to that. Okay. So another question. So I'm on keto and I've been on it for a while, but I'm trying to do intermittent fasting too. Do you recommend doing both or is that just too crazy? Well, intermittent fasting has shown. Well, intermittent fasting has shown to be beneficial for people, particularly for weight loss and ketogenic diet has been shown to be beneficial for people for other things. You would think combining the two would be great, but there's no data on that whatsoever. So I don't, I can't, you know, it seems like it would be okay. But, you know, the great thing about the ketogenic diet is you don't have to fast on it, you know? Yeah, agreed.

Okay. All right. All right. Have it easy. Cool, man. Thanks, Dr. All right. All right.

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friend and Jesse, who are on hold, if you guys can hold on, we're going to get you on the next show. So we'll pick them up. Oh, yeah, Jesse's calling in about sleep issues, so that'll be pretty interesting. All right. Thanks always go to 49 cent, aka Cliff Andrews. You got anything to plug other than your E.T.N. comedy gig.

Obviously, check out that E.N. Comedy gig in August. Rants in My Pants on YouTube. Rants in my pants And thanks to Lady Diagnosis Who's getting down to Daniel's Buttery Beats But not yours though, John An album name Yours too, John.

All right, Moogfest John And Daniel, Daniel, you got anything to plug? You want to plug any of your gigs or anything? Into the mic. I don't really have any gigs coming up, but I do have a SoundCloud

Okay. And that is it's just SoundCloud.com slash official Aladdin, but it's spelled A-L-E-D-I-N. Oh, my God. Oh, Dr. Steve loves that.

Spell it wrong. You're never going to get anybody going there, but if you spell things weird. I know what you mean, but it's an anagram of my own name, so it's just... Okay, so it's official A-L-E-D-I-N. Yes, but it's like...

Official Al-A-D-D-N. Yes, yes, exactly, actually. Okay. Thank you. Thankfully, Google has like... We're going to talk about your last name, too, because it's a weird last name. It's a renteria? Yeah, that means I will rent, or I would have rented, right?

In Españo. Something like that. I guess it could also, in a way, mean, like, a place where you would rent things. Oh, a thing, like a renteria. Like a, okay. Like a pizzeria. Like rent a center. Yeah, yeah, yeah, got it.

See, I'm with him. If it has an accent on the eye... I got it this, thank you. The literal translation would be, I. would rant, which is just a weird last name. Yeah. I believe it's from Portugal or something like that. My maternal grandmother's last name was I own things, so it's fine.

No worries. It's not a funny, Jeff. No, that's pretty funny. My maternal grandmother's last name would get to hell off my loan. All right. Mine was winness. Thanks to Super Android 23 for supplying us music. We can't forget Rob Sprantz, Bob Kelly, Greg Hughes, Anthony Coomia, Jim Norton, Travis

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