Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 331 - Shingle Bells
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I feel like shit.
Steel?
Yeah.
Well.
Oh, Lord.
So I don't know if we've talked about it.
the podcast, I had my
shingricks vaccine. We did not talk about it?
Holy shit, did it kick me in the
ass? Fuck you up, huh? Yeah, it
did. You know,
I'm like, well, I'm tough. Hey,
no vaccine going to
make me feel bad. You know, we've always talked about
how people think they get the flu
after having the flu shot.
Right. Well, it's like I
got the flu after taking
the shingles
vaccine. So this new one.
The shinglets?
shingricks it's hard to say it sounds like you're trying to make fun of some ethnic group or something but shingricks yeah and you um uh it's a killed vaccine this time but it has an adjuvant in it that really revs up your immune system and uh the next day i was testy and by the that evening i felt like dog shit i had um myalges in other words muscle
lakes. I felt malays. In other words, I felt bad all over. I had a headache, low-grade fever,
you know, 99.6, something like that. It just felt like should. It felt like the prodrome of
influenza. I didn't have the cough and the tracheo bronchitis that goes with influenza. But
everything else that you think of with influenza, that's how I felt. Right. And, but this is not
to dissuade people from taking the Schingrich's vaccine. If you, you know,
you've already had a shingles vaccine you need to take it if you're over i think it's over 50
you need to take the shingles vaccine and this is the one to take this is a booster correct
well now now this is an actual amount's an immune booster but it is an actual vaccine okay
but they're saying is it's so much more effective okay than the zostovacs that even if you
had the zostovacs already go get this one okay so if you're 67 you're listening to this you say
well, hell, I had my shingles vaccine five years ago.
Go ahead and get this one.
And then, yes, you could consider it a booster.
But I will take three to four days of feeling like dog droppings to not get shingles in my eye or anywhere else.
And then have post-herpetic neuralgia, which is a pain that persists after the shingles are gone.
for anywhere from six months, two years to the rest of your life.
And have to take medication for that.
So this is worth it.
But I just want people to be forewarned.
I was not taking the warning seriously.
They said, you know, 50% of people feel bad afterward.
And, you know, I took the hit for at least three or four people.
That's how bad I felt.
You did.
None of it, didn't you?
Yeah.
Oh, I am.
But worth it.
And my insurance paid 100%.
You still don't look like you feel very well.
I don't.
Well, now it's allergy season, too.
So that probably compounded it.
But well worth not having to worry about shingles because the Schingrich's vaccine is greater than 90% effective in preventing shingles.
That's huge.
You know, we'll do influenza vaccine if it's 6% effective.
and we've kind of talked the influenza thing to death.
I was hoping Richard David Smith was going to call in today because I had talked about
influenza, both on the podcast and the Sirius XM show, and he used to be one of those guys
that was like, oh, I ain't, I can go do no influenza vaccine.
I'm a big strong man.
And then he ended up on the ventilator in a full.
foreign state because he got influenza and he is now my number one proponent in our in our
listener base of influenza vaccine so anyway all right hey you had you had a new story and
then we'll take some some phone calls yeah no i found something interesting that i just i just lost
but um my computer crashed but it was about a kid in texas that um had an aneurism when he was a child
yeah um and they thought that he his speech impairment was due to that okay so he's 10 years old now and
and they they they called him tongue tied and the parents just always assumed that that's the
way he was supposed to speak um until last week and he was just done undergoing normal
dental procedures and the dentist made the comment that he felt like the the the the frenulum was
really short okay so the franulum being that little strip of tissue under your tongue that you can
feel right in the middle, the midline that connects the underside of your tongue to the bottom of
your mouth.
And they went and had it surgically separated.
Yeah.
And the kid got a normal length tongue and he has no longer tongue type.
He speaks normally now for the first time in 10 years, which is pretty awesome.
10 years, this poor, poor kid.
This is one of these things in medicine.
If you present with two things, they'll have trouble.
diagnosing both of those things
because you're always going to try to put
everything into one syndrome.
So he had an aneurysm when he
was before he could speak
and then he grows up
and he has this weird speech impediment
and they're like
he must be
it must be a sequela
from his stroke.
Let's see if we can find
let me do a YouTube search real quick
and
let me see if I can find
an example of what tongue-tied speech sounds like.
Because we did this with the Wernickees encephalopathy that one time.
Yep.
Okay.
Well, all right, let's see.
Well, hail.
Hale bills.
best for 17 years
her tongue tie never caused any difficulties
with speech
your ear helps us all
is an experience
Geraldine McNamey knows all too well
her migraine with aura episodes
became so frequently
migraine with aura okay come on
just give us a dang
tongue tongue tongue sound of tongue tie
well okay I can't find anything
um
yeah here's here's that story though
Yep.
That's what you?
You like me, huh?
I guess the more you can do,
the stronger.
Let me hear it.
Let me hear it.
Let me hear it.
And we're just looking at,
that came naturally
to six-year-old Mason Mice.
He's been in speech therapy
since he was a year old.
Nothing was really working.
He had probably a five-word vocabulary
and we were just looking at
alternative means of communication.
Mason was diagnosed with Soto's syndrome.
which caused him to have distinctive facial features and learning disabilities.
But it didn't quite explain why he couldn't speak until a trip to the dentist.
Well, this may be a different kid because he didn't sound like he had a...
No, an annual...
When you're in utero in your mom, you have webbed fingers and webbed toes.
When you're developing your tongue as part of the floor of your mouth,
and it separates similarly through the same process.
Okay, I'm sure Inside Edition doesn't mind us giving them a play.
since that's what that was from.
It's on YouTube.
So anyway, yeah, that's very interesting.
This poor kid went all this time and he was just tongue-tied.
That really is part of the initial evaluation of a kid is that you're supposed to have them stick their tongue out.
If they can't do that, they're supposed to be referred to an ear-nose-and-throat pediatric specialist to see if they are tongue-tied.
And I guess they just missed it on this kid.
And that's unfortunate, but, you know, the good news is he can talk now.
Yep.
You know, they're making a big deal about this, but this is really a misdiagnosis that they should be cussing somebody.
It should have been done at the very beginning.
But I was tongue-tied.
My, when my wisdom teeth came in, my front teeth kind of got crooked.
And any time I would perform cunnelingus, I would abrade my frenulum because I was,
very vigorous on my front teeth, right?
And I was a medical resident, and I told my ear-nose-and-throat professor, who I was
rotating with about it.
And I showed him my frenulum, and he said, oh, yeah, you're partially tongue-tied.
So on my rotation, he took some, back then they used cocaine.
He put cocaine on a piece of gauze.
and clamped it around my frenulum, right?
Yep.
To numb it.
And cocaine is a topical anesthetic.
And then it's, you know, you don't care, mind so much about the procedure once it gets into your bloodstream, too.
Right.
And then he took two forceps or clamps clamped right close to my tongue and right close to the base of my mouth.
So we had two separated like a pie shape with tissue in between.
Is that, am I explaining this?
So they were sticking out of my mouth.
And then he just cut between the two.
And those clamps kept it from bleeding.
Wow.
And then when he released the clamps, I don't know if he did some cottery or something,
but he released the clamps and it bled a little bit.
And then that was it.
And then I could stick my tongue out like dang, oh, what's his name from Kiss?
Gene Simmons.
Gene Simmons.
You look like a giraffe.
Yes, I can do some funky.
some funky cunnelingus.
Speaking of funky cunnelingus,
it sounds like Lady Diagnosis is downstairs.
I just heard my ring video doorbell go off.
So we'll get her up here and see what she thinks about that.
So yeah,
so that's very interesting.
So to the pediatricians,
there she is.
Pediatric dentists and primary care folks who take care of kids,
please screen all your kids for tongue-tied.
Hello, Lady Diagnosis.
How are you?
I don't know if your microphone's on.
Tell me when it's on.
It's on.
Okay, there you go.
Hello, Dr. Steve.
There she is.
I noticed she didn't bother putting any makeup on today, and you know what?
It doesn't matter.
You look fantastic.
She's naturally purgy.
She sure is.
Thank you.
Why even bother with that?
You know, there's double vasectomy feces, click.
Yeah, you know, women sit in front of them.
How long do you take?
to get ready in the morning.
About three hours.
For real?
Well, from the time I get in the shower to walk out the door, but I do a lot of stuff.
Maybe 10 minutes.
Yeah.
Oh, just 10 minutes.
Brush my teeth, you know.
Well, I know a lot of women that spend at least 45 minutes doing things with their eyebrows, with their eyelashes, putting on the makeup, putting the foundation on.
I curl my eyelashes and mascara.
I don't even brush my hair.
Yeah.
Yeah, because you have those long, blonde locks.
Why would you bother?
I don't really care what I look like, as long as I'm clean.
Yeah. And see, that's the confidence of a woman who already knows that she's got it all going on.
And there are other women out there that have it all going on, but they don't have the confidence that you have.
So they spend a lot of time, you know, making themselves up and stuff like that.
Caking on all that makeup.
Yeah. But anyway, you know, I'm talking. I know. I'm just making conversation.
It's just interesting to me.
I know. And it amazes me how much time they spend when they look better.
They look great already.
Yeah, without any.
Yeah.
But you can't tell them that.
Now, have you ever seen anybody that is often heavily made up?
And then you see them out at the grocery store when they're not.
They do look funny.
But that's just because you're not used to seeing them that way.
Anyway, all right.
Well, anyway, you look delightful, and I'm glad that she showed up.
Thank you.
All right.
Let's take this call.
Hi, Dr. Steve.
I got a question with my girlfriend.
I've been with her close to six years now, and we have sex probably twice a day, and she is unable to have an orgasm.
Give yourself a bill.
And what she has told me before has never experienced an orgasm with her other partners.
Is there anything that I can do to help the situation at hand and to help it move along maybe to have a better understanding?
of if I'm doing something wrong
or maybe if she's doing something wrong
that she's doing something wrong.
Wrong is the wrong
word to use here.
Then when you start assigning blame
and I know that's not what you're trying to do
but when you start assigning
responsibility
and when you use words like wrong
then it is kind of a blaming sort
of thing, then
you enhance the
anxiety and the pressure to try to perform and that's a problem so instead of why aren't you you should
say what can I do well of course well and and that's what he's trying to do but I have learned over
the years that you got to be careful how you say these things so and then saying well what am I doing
wrong then it makes it about you too so you know it's like what can we do together first off is she
bothered by it I have known women that say I've never had an orgasm but
I enjoy having sex.
I just feel good the whole time, and it's totally fine.
Other women are frustrated that they can't ever have an orgasm.
I knew somebody who had primary an orgasmia.
And what primary an orgasmia means is that they've never had an orgasm from day one,
which is the same with this lady.
Turned out that this person had had a procedure when before she went through puberty,
that rendered her infertile for the rest of her life.
And my hypothesis was that there was a part of her that said,
I can never have children.
And it's not that that's just the driving thing in everybody,
but it is a primal drive as to procreate.
I will never have children,
and therefore why should I enjoy having intercourse?
and I thought it was a psychological block.
So I did some research and found a physician that would say, yeah, you know, that could be reversed.
There's no reason that couldn't be reversed.
And lo and behold, soon thereafter, she began having orgasm.
So that kind of, I felt, bolstered my hypothesis that this was a, and I'm not violating HIPAA, this was a friend of mine.
So, and I've massed as many things as I can to make it so that nobody would know who this person is.
But anyway, so sometimes it's psychological.
And so people with primary anorgasmia, then there's people who have acquired an orgasmia.
They used to have orgasms, but now can't.
And then there's situational anorgasmia.
They're able to have orgasm on certain circumstances like oral sex or masturbation.
or only with a certain partner.
And then there's generalized an orgasmia.
They can't have orgasms under any circumstance.
And those can be primary or acquired.
So, you know, it's, what could it be?
Are there physical causes?
Is there a disease?
Well, probably not because she's particularly with primary an orgasmics
unless there was a, you know, a congenital malformation of the private part.
There's most likely not going to be a disease.
Is there a gynecologic issue?
You know, hysterectomy, cancer surgeries.
Well, that's not the case in this one.
Medications.
Well, has she been on some medication her whole life?
If the answer is no, that's probably not it.
Alcohol and smoking.
Those kinds of things.
Psychological causes anxiety or depression, poor body image.
Any kind of stress, financial pressures, cultural,
or religious beliefs.
You know, in my friend's case, you know, there was a psychological block, you know, because she was unable to procreate.
Embarrassment, guilt, past sexual or emotional abuse, any of those kinds of things.
If any of these resonate, then, if you don't have a friend like me that can do some research and find out some things, then you need to see a,
behavioral therapist or a sex therapist and see if you can get some of this stuff taken care of.
One thing you can try, if a woman is able to have an orgasm at all, the womanizer will induce that said orgasm.
And you can get one of those at stuff.
Dot, Dr. Steve.com and scroll down to the very last thing.
And it is a hands, well, it's hands off.
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It's supposed to be very intense.
And we have yet to try it.
It's been how many weeks?
Still haven't tried it.
But I am getting excellent reports from everywhere that this is the case.
So you can try that.
But finding a sex therapist, she needs to see an OBGYN, make sure there isn't a physical cause for it.
If there isn't one, then a sex therapist.
But make sure, first off, that this is.
something that actually bothers her because it may not, you know, but if she may not also know what
she's missing as well. So, all right. Okay. Let's do this real quick.
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Hey, Dr. Steve.
Not really a question, but you asked
on Twitter if I should leave a message
about CBD.
I had been prescribed
diazepam to help deal with
anxiety.
And ultimately
I found CBD as an alternative.
I'm no longer on any kind of addictive medication like that.
I'm sorting myself out now via a vape.
I know, asshole, vape.
But it works.
I can use my medicine when I need to, calm down, et cetera.
And ultimately, I'm no longer in the hands of anyone else.
than myself.
And that's the best way to be, man.
Thank you anyways for asking me on the quick.
Okay, hey, cool, man.
That's, of course, anecdotal.
Sure.
Evidence, but that's good.
I'm glad he's off everything else.
And look, the FDA recently took cannabidial off of the
Schedule 1 of controlled substances, which I wasn't aware it was on Schedule 1.
I wasn't either.
Because it's been legal in so many states for so long.
Right.
But they took it off the most restrictive class of controlled substances, and this is a move that allows the sale of the first non-synthetic cannabis-derived medication to win federal approval, and that's Epidilex.
And it is, these drugs include finished dose formulations of CBD with THC below 0.1% will be considered Schedule 5 drugs.
So the DEA has five schedules.
Schedule 1 are drugs that they deem to have no medicinal value that would be right now for the feds, marijuana, although states have rescheduled these.
LSD, cocaine, that kind of stuff.
Actually, cocaine probably isn't in there.
It would be LSD, just all illegal drugs.
Mushrooms.
Yeah, magic mushrooms, that kind of stuff.
Schedule 2 would be your hydrocodone, oxycodone,
percise, phythyl, and that kind of stuff.
Schedule 3s are codeine-containing medications.
And I believe Cizurp is in there as well.
And although Cizurp may be scheduled four,
depends on how it's formulated,
depends on how much codeine is in it.
Schedule fours are your Valium and Xanax,
benzodiazepines, Carissa Prodol is in there.
And then Schedule V's are things like Neurontin.
It depends on the state on that one.
Neurontin has been scheduled five in Tennessee.
I'm not sure that it is.
federally. So the things that are considered to be of the least abuse potential are
Schedule Vs. Now, the federal government recognizes the state's right to increase the number
on anything. In other words, if you've got a drug that's not scheduled by the feds and the state
wants to schedule it when they can make it schedule four, three, two, or one, that's fine.
The federal government does not recognize the right of the states to go in the other direction.
In other words, to take a Schedule 1 and make it into a non-scheduled medication or a Schedule 5 or any other number.
And so that's why the feds have an issue with states that have made marijuana legal.
Recreational.
Yeah.
Well, or medicinal.
Either one.
They particularly have a problem with states that have made it recreational, but they have chosen not to enforce those rules.
That could change any time.
It depends on who the attorney general is.
and depends on who the president is, if they decided, hey, we're going to enforce this.
All of a sudden, they're kicking in the doors to dispensaries and stuff.
It's going to be a real problem.
The cat is really kind of out of the bag to the point where that would be a huge political issue, I think, if they decided to do that.
But they could do it.
So we still got to push for federal decriminalization and really legalization.
You know, why would my hospital?
Give it to us for hospice patients.
Just start there and see how it goes.
Why would a hospice patient need to be kept away from a modality that we know helps them, which includes marijuana and not just Delta 9 THC?
Yeah, we got the marinal not indicated for wasting syndromes and appetite stimulation.
it's really only indicated for chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting.
And it's crazy expensive.
So because it's only indicated for that, you can't get the insurance companies to pay for it.
And, you know, if you write it off label.
Did you have something?
Or you're just texting over there?
I thought you were doing research.
How is texting?
Texting your wife.
Oh, texting my wife?
Oh, we've got a call.
But, hey, I bet he can't hear anything because I never called into Skype.
So let me do that real quick.
He's just sitting there, sitting there twiddling his thumbs.
Well, he deserves a chance.
That's right.
Let's just see here.
Oh, boy, this is riveting.
This is riveting.
I'm waiting for Skype to.
Okay.
They're on the edge of their seats about to fall in the floor sleep.
I sleep.
Yes.
Watch them hang up while I'm doing this.
I know.
Here we go, people.
Hold on.
You're about to hear your funky colors.
Why is the, where are the volumes?
You is now into host room.
You is now in the host room.
that's hilarious
I don't know why the volume is so low
Richard
oh god
yeah
hey I may have to
I'm not sure what's going on
I may let me pick you up
let's close this episode down
and then we'll call you back
because there's something is way wrong
with our connection
oh okay
yeah can you just hang on for a couple more minutes
oh yeah
we'll close this show down
and then we'll
test between the break we'll get the volume up and then we'll uh and then we'll talk okay
okay so you're gonna call me i can i can call you back yeah i can do that if you want to
just hang up i need you on though so that we can if you can just stay on just let me put you back
on hold and then uh we'll you're calling in about influenza right yeah okay yeah all right
yeah let's uh let's do that calls back no i need him i know i need him i
Jesus, okay.
Now, I need him to be on the line so that I can test the volume.
The volume.
I'm not sure what's going on.
What's wrong?
But we'll figure it out.
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