Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 353 - No F-ing Clue

Episode Date: March 21, 2019

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shape. I want a magic pill for all my ailments, the health equivalent of citizen cane. And if I don't get it now in the tablet, I think I'm doing it. then they'll have to go insane. I want a requiem for my disease. So I'm paging Dr. Steve. Dr. Steve. It's weird medicine, the first and still only uncensored medical show

in the history of broadcast radio, now a podcast. I'm Dr. Steve. Yeah, I know who I am. And I'm joined today with my little pal, Dr. Scott, the traditional Chinese medical practitioner, who keeps the alternative medicine wackos at bay. Hello, Dr. Scott. Hey, Dr. Steve.

And she who will do most anything for a glass of expensive wine, it's lady diagnosis. Uh-oh. Try that again. Can you hear me? Yeah, we need to do this more often because I'm just effing up bad today. Okay. Hey, Dr. Steve. And also in the studio, my delightful wife, Tacey.

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Cheese. that was rough if anyone can tell me why Skype cannot hear this I'm just going to throw this technical question out there why Skype cannot hear sounds from the USB audio codec please email me because we've been using Skype

for 15 years or however long it's been and all of a sudden it doesn't work anymore so I'm going to have to switch over to taking phone calls using Google a Google app or some other telephone app maybe one of those will work but it's not working and so last show we kind of cluged it up by putting a microphone next to the speaker

and ran Joe List and Richard Smith through you know the speakers on my the monitor speakers and that kind of work but the audio quality was crappy and I really couldn't control it very well and then we lose a whole microphone in the studio so while we're remodeling the studio next week week. The booms are on their way. One of them is over there next to you, Lady Diagnosis. I saw that. We're going to have actual studio upgrade for the first time in, gosh, 12, 13 years.

I want my microphone to come down out of the ceiling, please. There is a way to do that, actually. And there's, in some situations, it's better. since Scott we're doing a multi-track project with Dr. Scott where he's singing before and after and I've got his track where I can isolate his vocals which will be fun to play just the vocals by themselves particularly the before but um oh yes yes but and and we're doing sweet Melissa that's the great thing we are going to do Melissa as we are so that was the the song that started all of this with GVAC and that's the one I've never seen Scott ever mad

but except one time and that was when I started playing semi-sweet Melissa on this show just to shit on him and we really weren't shitting on you well I just wanted to show how much better you've gotten since then no I appreciate it had to go up there was no way it was getting worse well I'm not

arguing with you on that but it's just terrible terrible so for Scott's birthday I got him voice lessons he did one of them and then he cancelled the one from today so I could come be with my friends and do my show one whole lesson, but anyway. But he's already better because the guy told him what Giac

and I were trying to, but we just didn't, you know. You didn't know how to tell him. We didn't know how to tell him. Right. Scott's got a beautiful, if I can use that word with a dude, speaking voice. And, but singing voice. Atrocious. Yeah, not so much.

Horrible. It's like, well, hello, everyone. Let me sing. Well, you know, and I did the same thing. Yes. But it's in there. You can tell he can do it. Yeah, tease it out. But if you could sing with your speaking voice,

so what this guy told him was brilliant, yeah. Said just speak the words or speak the words in the beginning and then work into singing them. And I'm like, you asshole. Oh, that's brilliant. It was. You know, he said just talk into it. He said just start, just read the words, the first part of song.

And just as you start to read the words, then start just gradually getting them. This will just fluctuate on it. You want to try that with Melissa right now? Just do the first stanza? No, hell no. No, okay. Fair enough.

I thought I'd ask. Give me six months of... But the first time we've played since he's done that, he did that. And it was like, this is a million times you could tell that he's on the road to real improvement. I'm like, you asshole. GVag and I both told you this shit. And then this guy one time. But it's just like, you know, if I tell Tacey something and then she hears a,

it from somebody else or if he hears it from scott she'll take it more seriously or our kids if they hear it from us like this movie is really great what was that movie i tried to get Liam to go see and he was like oh it's stupid and then his friends wanted to go and he comes and can i go see yes x movie and it's like you so i've been trying to get you to go with me for weeks you don't have no street cred no i know i know i really don't particularly with my 23 and me are ancestry dot com results no street cred Just Eastern European honky, O'Fay. All right.

What else? So, yeah, that's interesting. So that's going to be fun. Yeah, that's cool. Why was I talking about that? We're talking about it. We're talking about the microphones coming from the ceiling. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, so we've got a deal where we can suspend the mics from the ceiling. Thank you. Suspend the mic from the ceiling and do it like a real recording studio. So I'm going to get for the studio one of those isolation shields. and you put that on the microphone, it comes down, and then you sing into that, and then I can completely remove any of the effects of the room from your singing and isolate you completely.

Then I don't have any excuse for ambient noise making me sound so terrible. Well, I can add that ambient noise stuff back if we need to, but it's a great way to just get nice, clean audio. Yeah, so that's right. Oh, I can't wait to hear that. When are you going to do this? You can hear a part of it right now, right? No, no, no.

They can't even hear the thing. that we did the take three now oh it was better than the very first one yeah okay so this is you've everyone go back go get a premium subscription go back and listen to the show called semi-sweet melissa i'm not going to play it for scumman but when we do the the last one we're going to play all three of them to hear the progression right yes we got to come on yes i'll find it if everyone promises to plug their ears Nope No we want to hear how far you've come

We know it's in there You got anything new on your website No we're just wearing out that sinus spray The allergies have come early this year You know those Bradford players When they start to bloom That's what I'm allergic to Are those the pink ones?

A lot of them are white flowers And then in soon as they'll turn The whole tree turns completely white And I'll sneeze my head off for about three weeks and as the tree turns green from the bottom up, you can watch it. I can smell again. I can breathe again.

This is the most recent multi-track. So this was before the lessons. Okay. Crossroads. There, oh, hardy off. Seen to come and go. It's like a cat scratching the fucking, Ha ha.

Choblo Gipsy flies Coast to coast Laugh. But knowing many Lovin' Love and

Marring sorrow Fonging fall Laugh, laugh But back home You're always Wrong to sweep

or listen I'd just got to get it dialed in I'd say it's hard to do that and play the guitar at the same time and do both really, really well it would be hard if that was what he was doing but we played the instrument track first and then he got to sing

just singing because the new studio has multi-track oh okay but I can't do either one and that wasn't a guitar either I actually made that he made that instrument he he modified well tell him

Well, I had an acoustic banjo that I modified. I took the strings off of and strung it like a mandolin. So it's like an octave mandolin. So I made my own, like an Irish bazook kind of thing. Is it the same as a mando cello? No, it's in between what a cello and a violin would be. It's like a viola. It's like a viola.

Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Just one octave deeper than my mandolin. Well, that's cool, man. All right. Did we have something else we were going to talk about? maybe before we get to opi and anthony oh yeah thank you lady diagnosis is famous yes that's right okay

so no i have no i got an email from a bunch of people saying oh they're talking about lady diagnosis on opian anthony and here's here's by the way you got a pay for your take sorry on uh opi radio podcast oh no right I ain't giving up a free seat I'm staying in the back good looking rough enough oh wait wait wait wait How about the hot, do you remember, Florentine, Dr. Steve down in Tennessee, when I went down there and did a gig for him last year, the lady he sent to pick me up and take me to the hotel and, you know,

loves Florentine. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Because she was like, I was like, she was like, he invited me to New York to come see him. And I'm like, really? And she goes, yeah, but then, you know, he said, I'll probably be working and just have to hang out.

I'm not going to spend any time. Of course. I'm going to make money. I'm going to spend any time. You can just sit over here for a second. Yeah, it's in the corner and watch the show, and then we'll go for beers afterwards. I've got to pick up $100 to fucking pay for the tab.

I'm not giving you a Saturday night. There's nothing against her for anybody. She told me straight up, she got some motherfuckers looking at me in the face of it. Oh, fly up, but then you're just going to have to fucking sit tight in the corner. Charity, you're going to cancel three shows on a Saturday night. It's like, I hope you like comedy, bitch. Right.

I've seen you lugging chicks around from club to club on a Saturday. By the way, you've got to pay for your tickets. So it's not right. I'm getting up a free seat. I'm staying in the back. Good looking woman though. Self-sufficient. Got a job.

Benefits. I was married at the time when I went down there to do a show. Yeah, so I couldn't hook up with her. I knew she was into me. But then when I got single, yeah, I come to New York. Right.

No, I was down there. You can't give up your whole night. No, I'm down there. I'm like, come on. You don't look this good. And some comic hadn't flirted with you. She's like, Jim Blurton. I would have totally.

There we go. There we could. If I was single. I would have been making out with her at the airport waiting for my luggage. She was good looking at work. Where was this? In the Trial Cities, down in Tennessee. He's like in the middle of nowhere down there, right?

Bristol, Johnson, Senator Keynes, and then they start talking about me, but anyway. What did they say about you? I don't think anything. The Trial cities, yeah. He's trying to get a comedy scene going down there, but there's not really a lot of people in the area. They got an airport. They got an airport. That's about it.

Oh, they got a small one, though, right? Which the Trotson's. Yeah, all right. So, yeah, the end. But that was so fun. this was one of the best, and I'm like, I would have given you two, if I come for the weekend, I'll take one night off. I would have taken one night off. I would have worked the other night. I would have worked the other night, but I would have taken the one night. I would do one show on a Sunday about two work.

So look, you know, that money's going to pay for the hotel room that we'll get. That's true, true, true. I mean, it's a business. I'm running a business expense. So anyway, so. I didn't know he was married when he came down here. I didn't, I thought he was already divorced that. I think he may be misreferenced. remembering that do you remember no he wasn't married yeah okay yeah that's what i thought oh he doesn't know if he was married or not god almighty so as because he well yeah he wasn't married so how does that make you feel um hearing these guys talking about these comedians talking about you that you work with that's hilarious it's okay good i'm glad it's self-sufficient i know i was

Hot lady, it's got to make her feel good. Good job. That's nice. Benefits? I've got benefits. Yes. Absolutely. Your insurance sucks.

I mean, don't ask me how I know that. Yeah. But anyway, I'm a catch. There you go. Come to the dry cities. Yep. And I always tell these guys, I've got this supermodel walk you around or drive you around. I say she's an aging supermodel, but a supermodel.

nonetheless. In the comedy world, you are, you're definitely a comedy ten. There's no question about that. Wow. That's huge. Is that bad? Tacey's looking at me like, you asshole. What's wrong with that? I just was looking at you. Oh, okay. The look must have been for something else. I don't remember. That's her story-eyed look. Anyway, yes, the comedians all like you. Oh, wonderful. So there you go. All right. Well, that's nice to hear. Yeah, get a little traction on a bigger podcast than ours. Wow. All right.

You guys ready to take some phone calls? Let's... Uh-oh. Some asshole on the radio. Wait, what? Number one thing. Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. All I heard was asshole on the radio.

I thought Rownie B was... Well, anyway, hear me listen. Hey, Dr. Steve, Dr. Scott. My name is Mike. I was Colin. Talk a little bit about some old wives' tales. So my family is from Poland. And I've seen this with other European families.

They come visit here in California. They absolutely hate, hate, hate, hate air conditioning, whether it's in the car, whether it's in the house. They say that's how you get sick. Same with, like, not wearing socks on a tile floor or having windows open and having a breeze through the house. And these are, you know, college-educated, smart people. I don't know. Is there any truth in that? I mean, I've all heard the story of the helicopter pilot that didn't want to get sick, so he turned off the fan.

but I just wanted to see if there was any kind of medical underpinning, thanks. Yeah, not a whole lot. Hey, Dr. Steve, Dr. Steve. Hey, buddy. It's, we had ways to heat our homes long before we had ways to cool our home. And when I was a baby, I remember we had a big giant fan in the ceiling that my mom would turn on, or I'm sorry, in the attic, and it would suck air through the whole house. I mean, it was like an airplane propeller, and it would suck air through the whole house.

And we would drive in a car with no air conditioning. I don't ever remember being hot because you just didn't know any different. You just open the windows. And so when you have air conditioning, it's weird to people. At the time, it was weird. There were a lot of myths about it at the time. uh that people thought it was unhealthy to you know be living in cool air like that and but so some of this is just a myth because people weren't used to it and if you're in europe

remember we were in europe tase and some of the places we went we're like well you don't need air conditioning you know it's always like bullshit it's 98 degrees here bullshit yeah it was bullshit bullshit so um but a poorly maintained air conditioner can be a problem With filters that might need to be changed, Dr. Steve? Yes, and I will do that as soon as... As soon as we're done today, my delightful friend, I will do that. And I've been remiss in changing the filters. Filters can be a problem, but there's this thing called sick building syndrome.

Have you heard of that? Nasal congestion, breathing problems, headaches, fatigue, irritated skin. And what they were thinking is that there may be microorganisms, in the system that may have some subtle effects on some people. But the more common one that we know about is Legionnaires disease. You know, when you have water that's pooling, and then you get this Legionella bacteria, and if it's pooling in an air conditioning system,

then you can spray it onto people and you can get Legionnaires disease, which is the third most common community-acquired pneumonia, and people just aren't aware of it, that it's that common. very common. Legionella pneumonia is not in any way rare. And we always treat for it. When we have community acquired pneumonia's come in, you'll always treat

people for atypical organisms when they, you know, when they hit the emergency room for admission. So, that's one way. So, but a properly maintained air conditioner unit with no pooling water should be okay as long as you

change your filters and you're not spraying allergens around the house. Now, whether it's healthy for the planet, it's a whole other thing we can talk about. Now, Dr. Scott's a big environmentalist, but last time I was at your house, it was very nicely air conditions. I love my air condition. It's my best friend. As a paramedopausal woman.

Yes. It's my best friend. It does the most for me, though, keeps the allergens out of the air so I can keep my windows closed and I don't sneeze my damn head off in the spring. That's the key for me. Great. It's actually keeps me healthier. I was just going to bring up, there's this Michelle Bell,

she's a professor of environmental health at Yale University. She did some research on air conditioning and found that the use of a well-maintained air conditioning unit lowered a person's risk for health complications, including hospital admissions and premature death due to cardiovascular issues. So we're actually, by running our air conditioning tastes, We're, you know, preventing hospitalizations and early deaths. We're at all crank it up.

We do plenty to cause hospitalizations in early death. That's true. And during intense heat waves, air conditioning, obviously saves lives. So there you go. So just if you're going to use it, get an efficient air conditioner. We need to replace ours to make it more energy efficient. So we're using less carbon. I'm fine with that.

And it just makes sure it's well maintained, and he should be okay. All right. There you go. Yo, buddy. What's up? How are you? Yeah, I'm good. Thanks for asking.

I was just wondering. I'll listen into this stuff. I get what he's doing. he's didn't you have a friend that said it made him mad that I tried to make it sound like I'm interacting yeah let me let's try that over again okay so now okay yo hey man buddy hey how's it going bro what's up hey we're doing all right how you doing how are you yeah good good how about you

yeah I'm good thank you guys I was wondering I'll listen into this stuff about Oregon and whatnot having a measles outbreak I believe it is Because the anti-vax movement and all this, BS, it's ridiculous. I have one of these in my family, my frickin' sister and my brother, for that matter, are anti-vaxxers. And they're always telling me that the big government getting paid to vaccinate our children to push these vaccines on our children. Wait, big government is getting paid to push vaccines. It's usually big pharma. Yeah, it's usually they're after big pharma.

Big pharma is paying government to tell them. Oh, oh. Oh, I was confused as to who was paying who. It causes cancer. It causes autism and the mercury and the chimera at all. I'm like, you know that guy was found out to be bogus, right? She's like, oh, that's not why. We believe, I'm like, do your own research.

I'm like, I did. And I'm telling you what I thought. I need to go to You're Right.com inside this I don't know There's a group in New York now That's starting up They're trying to get some traction

You've heard I think of Rochester And they have said Meas Or not musical I'm sorry They said Vaccines cause adults Oh vaccines cause adults

That's what he said I like that Oh I like that That's cute That's actually very clever his audio is terrible, but basically he was in an argument with a family member who is an anti-vaccine person. And I was just going to, there's... Stuff drives me bonkers.

A nice article from yesterday out of Oregon, this measles outbreak in Southwest Washington added some urgency for Oregon. So you'd think of any place would maybe lean toward being an anti-vaccine place. It might be the Pacific Northwest. but their lawmakers are certainly not following suit with that. And 65 people, many of them unvaccinated children have been sickened with measles in Clark County, Washington, that's just in one county. They're saying it's not a theoretical discussion anymore. It's a very practical discussion, said Representative Mitch Greenlick.

I wonder what his nickname was in high school. The Portland Democrat behind a proposal making it more difficult for families. to opt out of vaccine requirements. And then you'll get some people saying, well, this is totalitarian, forcing people to have, you know, vaccines. But this is for the public good. There's no question about it. People, I'm telling you, you don't remember what it was like if you're against these vaccines. I had a kindergarten friend die from measles when I was a kid.

We had kids in wheelchairs with polio. You just don't see that shit anymore. So people think, well, it just doesn't happen. but it did happen and vaccines are the things that stopped that when it's the last time you've heard of somebody who died from tetanus I've had

one case of tetanus in my 30 plus years and it was in an unvaccinated person you know when's the last time you saw diphtheria does anybody that's your mother let's get this oh no I ignored it people

I did not answer oh a bad big jokes No, you're on weird medicine. Oh, you are? Yeah. Okay. What can we do for you?

I wanted to bring over my new dog and show it to you. Oh, my goodness. You got a new dog? Yep. So, with all the other shit in your life right now, you decided you're going to add some more shit to it. Well, happier. Let's put that way. Fair enough.

Fair enough. Okay. Yeah, bring them over in like 30 minutes. Okay. All right. See, then you got anything to say to your fans in the radio audience? Just say hello to them. All right. Well, you just did. I hope they had a good winter.

Well, okay. Okay, bye. All right, bye. Big Joe, everybody. This dog's going to come shit all over our house. I know, and piss and everything. Just like the other one does. The other one, if you say hello to it, it just pisses on the floor. That's what I'm mad.

So she's already got a dog? Yes. Oh, Lord. And a kitty cat. And then, you know, two grandchats. children living with her and Tacey's brother and you know it's a swell place and now she's going to add another and is it a puppy do you know is it it's a two-month-old chihuahua apparently okay so at least if it shits all over everywhere it's little tiny shits it's going to be very small

and our dogs will probably eat it most likely they do yes corpaphagic all right well here we go here's the other side the government's authority ends at my skin, parent and advocate, Brianna Sagdahl said outside the public hearing room, it's my body, it's my family, my choice, and they can pass whatever the law they want. I'm not following it. By God. You know, while most states allow for religious exemptions to vaccine, what religion, what religious teaching keeps you from taking vaccines?

I'm not aware of any. Oh, yeah. Are you? Yes. Give me a second. I don't know who that is. why is your microphone sound so crappy tacy's way too high and you're way too low and i'm just right and you're right let's see here about 7.5% of kindergartners in

Oregon were unvaccinated in 2018 the highest rate in the state history nearly all these children used non-medical exemption including or according to this person with the Oregon Health Authority. Ninety-six percent of all Oregon school children are vaccinated against measles, their individual schools throughout the state with far lower rates of vaccination. If the disease were to hit those areas, it would spread rapidly like it did in Clark County. And the other side of it. Parents in emotional testimony said the government shouldn't force children to be immunized to receive an education. Some came to Oregon to escape strict vaccine requirements in California, which implemented a similar law in 2016, you know, there you go.

So, I don't know what to tell you. It drives me apeship. I don't want to tell you. Vaccines save lives. Yeah. Nothing has zero risk. There's no question there are going to be kids who will get a vaccine who will have a bad outcome, sometimes even a tragic outcome.

And for them, you know, I don't know what to say to you. It's if we knew ahead of time who those kids were, we wouldn't vaccinate. vaccinate those kids. We'd vaccinate everybody else. There might be, you know, so we might have 10,000 unvaccinated kids because we know we're going to harm them in this country, but they would be protected by the 350 million minus 10,000 people who are vaccinated. But the problem is when you don't vaccinate just because you're afraid you're going to be in that one in a million or one in 10 million, whatever the number is that's going to have some bad outcome. It's just, just like saying, I'm not going to wear my seatbelt because I'm afraid I'm going to get trapped in my car in a burning car wreck.

And the odds of being trapped in a car in a burning car wreck are about one in a million. The odds of being harmed seriously by getting in that same car wreck where you're not trapped without your seatbelts about one and two. so you're trading near certainty odds for remote odds and you're making your life much much more dangerous but then they have peace of mind so how much is that worth

well do they have peace of mind they don't have peace of mind they don't have peace of mind when their kid gets measles and has an even worse outcome but until then they have more peace of mind a lot of people may say they have peace of mind when they vaccinate their kids Yeah, it was nervous about it because of hearing about it, I knew better. The intellectual part of my brain said, I know this is something we have to do, but the emotional part of my brain was like, oh, you know, while we're doing this, I'm gritting my teeth, hoping that nothing bad happens, that the crazy side isn't right about this. But then I had a great peace of mind afterward, you know, because they didn't have an untoward effect, and I knew they were protected.

How harmful is it for the kids that have been vaccinated to be hanging out with these unvaccinated hippies? You're not an unvaccinated hippie. True, I'm just a hippie. Yeah, that's a different kind of hippie. Yeah, it is a totally different kind of hippie. That's right. Yeah, you're stage two. Those are stage one.

There is some risk, though, although those kids are protected, the real risk is to the unvaccinated people. But there is some risk, even to vaccinate people. As you know, no vaccine is perfect. So if you've got a bunch of unvaccinated people and there's an outbreak, then the people who have marginal immunity, even though they were vaccinated, are at more risk of coming in contact with live virus and having something happen to them. So, yeah, there's some risk. It's less. I like how they say, well, you vaccinated your kids, so I don't really need to vaccinate my kids. Right.

They're basing that on herd immunity, which is when you base your decision on that, you're just saying it's okay for everybody else to take the one in a million risk for their kids in the interest of keeping society safe. But I'm not willing to do that. I'm going to let everybody else do that. And that's bullshit. That's like I'm not going to pay my taxes. Well, you know, everybody else pays their taxes, so, you know, they won't notice that. you know go fuck yourself pay your taxes

so I don't like that that reason but that's what they're looking at is hurt immunity and they're partially right when you have a large populace that is vaccinated you're less likely to have it out because it's hard for the virus to catch hold but when you've got a place like Clark County where you've got a big glob of people

who aren't vaccinated then they'll just pass it through themselves and it's amplified It just takes one place like Disney World, you know? Yeah, where everybody comes together. Absolutely. Yep. Next thing you know is they'll stop circumcisions, won't they?

No. Let me see, Disney Measles Outbreak. Let's read up on that. Okay, that was California. This was actually hit the CDC. Measles Outbreak, California, December 2014 to February 2015. A California Department of Health was notified about a suspected measles case. The patient was hospitalized, unvaccinated child, 11 years old with rash onset on December 28th, so three days after the holiday.

The only notable travel history during the exposure period was a visit to one of two adjacent Disney theme parks located in Orange County, California. On the same day, the California Department of Public Health received reports of four additional suspected measles cases. in California residents, two Utah residents, all of whom reported visiting one or both of the theme parks during mid-December. By January 7, 7 California measles case had been confirmed, and they issued a press release on the epidemic information exchange notification to other states regarding this outbreak. As of February 11th, that was that year, a total of 125 measles cases with rash occurred during that time period were confirmed, connected with the outbreak. Now, let's see, among 34 secondary cases 26 were household or close contact, so people brought it back home and gave it to other people. Now, let me see. Of the 110 California patients, 45% were unvaccinated.

5% had one dose of measles containing vaccine, and 7 had two doses. And one had three doses. 43% didn't know what their status was, so they may have been vaccinated and didn't know it. So that comes back to your thing. You know, being vaccinated is not a perfect protection. Most of the time protects you from dying, but doesn't protect you from getting it.

Let's see. I just want to look and see how many people really got sick, but it doesn't really say. So, you know, ended up in the hospital over it. But, you know, there you go. Vaccinate. Vaccinate your fucking kids. And it actually, the hepatitis B vaccine will prevent some cases of hepatocelular cancer.

So it doesn't cause cancer. It prevents cancer. And we're still waiting for the true long-term data, but we've found that the Gardasil, or the anti-HPV vaccines that are oriented toward bad, actors in the HPV community, which would be particularly HPV strain 16 is shown

decrease in bad pap smears and what we're assuming is over the next couple of decades we'll see a marked decline in the number of cervical cancer cases. So they're already seeing a decrease. That's cool. All right. Hey, Dr. Steve.

I am a real dumbass, but anyway... Well, you're calling the right place. I have an allergic reaction to cold air a lot of times. It went away after about two and a half years, and now it's happening again. About two and a half years, about three or four or five years ago, whenever it was happening, I told my doctor that I had cold inertia. Oh, what? Long word.

Yep, dumb fuck. It's not inertia. You're a carry-up. Um, it's just basically fucking cold hives. It's urticaria is the word he's looking for. I've read about it as much as I can. I can't figure out what I should do next. No, urticaria's hives.

Right, it looks like a red rash. So cold urticaria will be reddish, itchy welts, and swelling when your skin is exposed to cold. So just like there are certain people like, well, we, well, P.A. John was supposedly allergic to shrimp. Now he eats shrimp like crazy. I mean, we didn't feed him. We made. I had to make special dinners for this.

Special dinners. And then he wasn't even allergic. He's such a dumb ass. I know it. People with food allergies often will get these rashes. And you're to carry a, its hallmark is it's itchy and it comes and goes. And it'll be raised, just slightly raised, red, geographic in shape. and so anyway let's see what else this guy says about i want to go back to my doctor

but he waited he looked at me like i was praised it the last time maybe because i maybe because i said inertia and uh next time tell him i have cold hives and see how it reacts maybe he'll treat it more seriously because it's itching the fuck out of me i'm a truck driver so i can't very well take a bunch of benadryl so i don't itch because then i want to fall asleep you know okay well he's right that's probably not good to take benadryl when you're driving but there are other anti histamines that are non-drowsy that you can buy over the counter. Allegra being one of them, what is that? Fexophenidine, I think.

And it comes in a 24-hour dose without the decongestant, you know, just plain 180 milligrams of fexophenidine, that may take care of it. There are medications like leukotriene antagonists, like Monte Lucast, aka Singular, that can absolutely just make this stop happening. and that has no drowsy side effects, anything like that. Scott, what do they use in traditional Chinese medicine for eurya? We have a formantium called Xanthian. It's the same thing that I give you for your sinuses.

Zanthium nasal formula works for inflammation. Did he say what specifically? Was it just in one spot or all over? I'm assuming since it's Yerdicaria, it's all over. I was going to say it could be just specific to something. You could just use a topical, you know, hydrochorazone cream. Yeah. You know, if it's, if it's in one.

one local area. Yeah, if it's in one, if it's all over his body, you just can't be in that stuff. Take some, take your medicate. Yeah, go talk to the primary care. If the over-the-counter

and non-drowsy anihistamines don't work for you, then they can put you on this leukotriene antagonist and see if that helps. You know, sometimes they'll use steroids, but I would only use that in an extreme bad case

we're just trying to acutely get rid of it. There are other medications that you can use as well. and, you know, let's get checked and then call us back, let us know how that helps. Okay. I have a question. Yeah, of course.

This is something that happens to me. I have, what is it called, when your extremities get cold and turn blue. Oh, Raynaud syndrome? Yes. You actually have that? I think so. Okay. But every once in a while, in my joints, in my fingers or in my toes,

I get a blob of, I guess it's blood, and it pools, and it hurts really bad. Like, I don't even know how to describe it. just hurts. Like I start screaming and then it'll pop and it'll my whole finger or wherever the pain was will turn purple. I want to see that. You're talking about this

is on the surface of the skin? It happens under, right under. Like this week it happened on my toe in my feet and a lot happens in my fingers. Like right in the joint is usually where it happens and I'll bend it and you'll feel it pop and then the pain goes away.

Is there bruising? that when it pops? Yeah, it's purple. It's purple before and then it stays purple after it pops and then it doesn't hurt anymore. But it's excruciating, it hurts. And in my feet, because it hurts to walk.

My fingers aren't as bad. I'm going to have to say you stumped me on this one. I want to see it when it happens and I may be able to figure it out. Okay. You got anything on that? Yeah, I was just thinking to get, when she first started saying,

thinking, you know, like if maybe I'm thinking it's not Raynodes, I mean, if she's got some vascular these are blood-filled cysts though yeah it's only in my my toes and my fingers but I've had it yet they just started about two years ago

and they pop yeah they pop when you when you move your fingers or toes I gotta see this I gotta see it when it happens sometimes it just pops sometimes I can like bend it and it'll explode you got me fooled on that one

let's talk about something I I do know, Raynoz disease. So if you actually have it, it's a rare disorder of blood vessels, usually in the fingers and toes, and you get the sort of French or American, depending on the way you look at it, reaction, when you put your hands, and we could do that one time on the show and videotape it, but you put your hands in ice water, and then they turn white because you get constriction, right, of the blood vessels. So the initial reaction is they turn white.

And constriction of the blood vessel will get decreased blood flow to the hands, white hands. And then as it continues to have decreased blood flow, they'll turn blue. It's called cyanosis, right? That makes sense. And then when it resolves, blood rushes back into the hands, the hands turn red. So you get a white, blue, and red, very patriotic reaction to this stuff. Yeah, let's do that one day. And people usually don't know why it happens.

People in colder climates are more likely to develop rainodes. Now, you came from a colder climate. And I just started having those symptoms in the last 10 years, the finger numbness. Yeah. So what they recommend home treatment is if it starts to happen, put your hands in warm water, immediately try to counteract it. Keep your hands and feet warm. You're going to be more likely in a true cold snap to get frostbite and stuff like that

because you're not going to have enough blood flow to your extremities and they'll freeze easier. And if there are certain triggers, then, you know, avoid those. But the treatment is to take medications that keep the blood vessels from constricting. So those would be vasodilators. And those can have their own interesting adverse effects. So you don't want to take them unless you know for sure you have renowns disease. And this blood filled coming and going cysts in your fingers. I don't know what that is.

Okay. And I haven't said that very many times on this show, but that's a new one on me. I was just thinking, patechi eye, maybe, you know, some sort of a. I got to see it. Yeah. If I could see it, I could tell what it is, I think. Okay. Because what I'm thinking is the image in my brain of what's going on and what's really going on are probably two different things.

All right. Mm-hmm. Okay. If anybody else has any idea, give us a. Give us a shout. All right, I got one for Dr. Scott, then we're going to get out of here. And see a dog.

Get out. Hey, Dr. Steve, Dr. Scott. I've been dealing with tinnitus for about 20 years, and I'm going to be 40 this year, and it seems to be getting worse. I was hoping that Dr. Scott might have some herbal voodoo that would help me out with this. I really appreciate any advice you guys got. Thanks. Tonitis?

Is that what he said? Yeah. What's that? You can pronounce it tinnitus or tinnitus. And it's, go ahead and take it, Scott, if you want. No, I was going to say the, it can be a very, it's ringing in the ears. It's a sound, you're hearing sound that isn't there, and it's not in the brain like a schizophrenic. It's actually caused by mechanical or electrical problems in the ear.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it can be mechanical, can be electrical. Dr. Steve, I'll tell the guy, if it's from trauma, if there's actual trauma to the ears, from loud gunshots, or, you know, we get some of the military guys that we serve the veterans have it, and it's almost impossible. for me to treat with any kind of acupuncture or herbs. If we get someone that's got a sinus-related tenitis, it's very easily treated with some anti-inflammatories and some allergy medications as well as some acupuncture and I actually do it down, believe it or not, I do it.

Needles with electrical stimulation just below the ears and the throat around the lymph nodes kind of drain some of the fluid out of there. Works extremely well. But you know, sometimes people get tinnitus from other things like medications. Sometimes they get from. Aspirin is classic. Aspirin is a classic. You know, sometimes we'll sit with people on statin medications,

blood pressure medications, and even some hormones will throw it off. So, you know, really thorough work up from your family medicine doctor and then certainly gives some kind of like me a shot that treats it, you know, fairly well. Yeah. Depending on which kind of you. So that is from aspirin. Will you still do the acupuncture or do you still have to stop aspirin? Stop, stop the aspirin, come up with a better way to keep the blood thin.

Looking at their medications, always think drugs. Because that's the easiest thing. If it's that. It's simple. and you can get rid of it, it's great. But his has been going on for years. It's probably not that. Probably not medicine, probably sinuses, I would guess.

They'll use, some kind of phlegm. I would see an earnose and throat dock. They always kind of throw their arms up as well. The two folks that frustrate the earnose and throat docks the most are people with vertigo or the dizzy ones or the people with tenedus because it's so frustrating to try to treat. But there are medications that you can use, including tricyclic. antidepressants. If you have tinnitus in one ear and you've got

dizziness, you may have Migneres disease. Which is a whole different deal. That's actually pretty treatable. And as a matter of fact, oh gosh, who was the astronaut who had Mnierrez disease? He ended up going to going to the moon. Could have been

not too many of them to choose from. No, I know. I know. He was the first guy in the Redstone. Rocket. Aldrin, you know. Who was the first American in space? Why can I think of his name? Hey, but, you know, in Chinese medicine, though, it is. We call it a phlegm disorder.

So there's a lot, we have a lot of good medications that can drain the flim out of the years. Alan Shepard. Alan Shepard. Hey, another thing, real quick, dietary things, milk, foods, you know, foods like chickens that can cause flim. Maybe drinks a lot of milk, you can just stop that and it'll get better. Okay. They have machines, too. There are white noise machines that you can get.

They produce environmental sounds like rain and stuff, and it just masks it. There is a thing called a tenetist retraining device. It's wearable. And they deliver sort of programmed tonal music that masks the specific frequencies of the tenetist that you're hearing. So an audiologist would help you with that. And normally you would run into them in an ear, nose and throat physician's office. So go see an E-N-T telling me, out this tinnitus. You've tried everything.

And the other thing you can do is go to Clinical Trials.gov and just put in tinnitus see if anybody's doing anything cutting edge for treatment. As a matter of fact, let's just do that. We've got... Send us an email if he wants a referral for someone in his area. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We've got a minute 15 of the music. Let me just go to Clinical Trials. Trials.gov. And let's put in tinnitus. T-I-N-N-I-T-U-S. Uh-oh. Here we go.

There's all kinds of them. And you want to do actively recruiting. Somatory-sensory tintedist study. Okay, what you want to find are treatment studies. Here's a bunch of device studies. Clinical trial investigating the effect of tinted light on perception of tinnitus. Well, that's a way out wacky one. Lydididerm patch for tinnitus treatment.

There's all kinds of stuff. So check that out as well. And then if you find something that actually helps, give us a call. Don't forget, stuff.doctrsteve.com. Stuff.com. Thanks to Dr. Scott, Tacey, and Lady Diagnosis. Until next time, check your stupid nuts for lumps. Quit smoking. Get off your asses and get some exercise.

We'll see you in one week for the next edition of Weird Medicine. Goodbye, everybody. Hi, everybody. Thank you.