Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 378 - Nose For R2 (AKA the Wampyre)
Episode Date: October 17, 2019Dr Steve discusses the life of a touring rock musician with Cody, and "physician heal thyself" with Dr Scott. Hilarity ensues. PLEASE VISIT: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!)... simplyherbals.net (Dr Scott’s nasal rinse is here!) noom.doctorsteve.com (lose weight, gain you-know-what) tweakedaudio.com offer code “FLUID” (best CS anywhere) premium.doctorsteve.com (all this can be yours!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So I see Dr. Scott is here, and also Cody Gilmer from the band, The Indie Ghost.
Follow them on Spotify or on Twitter at Indie Ghost Band.
And Cody, you got something to plug.
You have a new album on Spotify, I know.
Yeah, we just dropped Satan's Texas Vacation on Spotify.
And it's interesting because it has nothing to do with Satan, nothing to do with Texas,
and that's nobody's vacation, right?
I did not write the lyrics.
I think the actual song has to do with, I think Satan.
in there a little bit.
Really?
You'd have to ask Randy or Dan.
Yeah, I listen to the lyrics.
I didn't get any of that out of there.
I'll find out an answer for next week.
It doesn't even matter.
It's a cool, cool title if you don't care about hitting the Bible Belt too hard.
No.
Not really.
So, yeah, check out Indie Ghost.
They're on Twitter at Indie Ghost Band, or you can go on Spotify and check out.
And where else can they get your stuff?
I mean, like, if you just type in the Indigoast, it'll,
pretty much pop up all the different platforms.
We're on Facebook, Spotify, Instagram, all that stuff.
I would just make sure that there is a female lead vocalist is the easiest way to make sure you've got the right band.
There are a couple.
Who would have ever thought there'd be more than one indie ghost?
I know.
And what's even weirder is there was only one when we started and they were out in Australia as a DJ.
And so we kind of went with it.
But a band that had been obsolete for years and years.
Decided to start up again.
Decided to come up again.
It's been entertaining.
And so, and then they call themselves Indy Ghost with like an X instead of the O.
Oh, right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We ran them off.
Indie.
Okay, check, you know, check it all out.
There's no bad music.
I just got back from seeing King Crimson at the Riemann.
That was, okay.
Was it fabulous?
It was not only fabulous.
It is at, it's my number one concert of my life now.
Wow.
The one that held the crown
held it for 40 years.
Wow.
So, yeah, it was absolutely the greatest concert
I've ever been to.
Hell yeah.
And I was like, from me to Dr. Scott
to where Robert Fripp was.
Oh, wow, wow, wow.
Yes, and that was awesome.
Of course, he's completely inanimate when he's up there.
He just sits there.
He's the coolest.
Doesn't move, does he?
He's 70-something now, but I understand he was always that way.
go back and look at like
the video for the
waiting man, which was back when Adrian
Ballou played with them, when they were
quite a different band than they are now.
Even then, you know, he would play these runs
just over and over again and just be staring
at Adrian Ballou. Like, you know, I
always imagine that it was like the
last image you would see before the serial
killer, you know, you know,
cut your throat or whatever.
Hell yeah. But it was amazing. And he seemed to
actually, he cracked a smile a few
times, and he's not affectations about it.
I just think he's, that's just how he is.
It's not an, it's not an affectation.
He's lost in it, man.
Yeah, and, um, he's grooving.
He's, I saw a picture of all of his pedals and all this stuff.
He'd just never see him messing with it.
You know, you see, like, you guys are down on your knees fucking with your pedals the whole time and, you know, and stomping on them and stuff.
I never once saw him do anything, but yet the, it was all different.
Does he have his actual board on the stage or does he do, like, the, uh, the MIDI controller and have it in a box?
Well, that's a good question.
But there's a, if you look at it.
the picture. You can go to Tony Levin.
It's their bass player and just go
to Tony Levin.com. He's got his diary
and there's pictures of his setup
and he's got, you know, a couple
of laptops and there's rack-mounted
stuff and then there's a bunch of pedals and shit.
I got to check that shit out. You know, it's pretty cool.
And they, matter of fact, they even
I looked at one place where
they said every pedal that he's got
and how he uses it and all that stuff.
Oh, hell yeah. I'll check that out.
And the three drummer thing, I didn't understand
that, but now I do.
Now I totally get it.
Wait, three drummers?
They have three drummers, and they're all very different, but all of them are virtuosos.
And there's this guy, Gavin Harrison, he's British, and he blew me away.
I was right behind him and could watch him play.
Are they all drum sets?
Or they're like, you have percussionists.
Well, yeah, like Pac Mastolato is one of the guys, and he looks just like Wood floor liquor for people who are really deep into the opening Anthony of fandom.
But he's got more percussion stuff.
Okay.
Gavin is more of just a straight drummer.
And then the guy in the middle, Terry, he's the one I know the least, but he also plays keyboards.
Oh, okay.
That makes a lot more sense.
Yeah.
But they do, like during indiscipline, they're doing these sort of mini solos and they're trading fours and then trading twos and at one point they're trading ones.
and, you know, it's just, it's the coolest damn thing.
I totally get it now.
That's sick.
Yeah.
So that was just sort of a separate, a separate person.
And they're in the front.
You know, they're like the front guys, except the front guy is up in the back, up on the top of a riser.
You know, it's just an odd how they do everything.
That is going to show you.
But it was an incredible damn concert.
If you have, I think they're almost done, but if you have any chance to go see them, you should.
And Fripp even said, don't wait till, quote, unquote, the next.
King Crimson tour because
there may not be one. It's coming to that point.
Yeah. Shit. Yeah, well, hell, there is.
He's 70-something, indeed. He's 70-something.
I sadly missed
Tom Waits last tour. Had an opportunity
Oh, yeah. Pass the buck.
Yeah, I love Tom Waits. I do too.
So, but anyway, it was great.
So how did you guys tour go?
It went fantastic, actually. A lot
of riding and a lot of driving.
But the shows were a lot of fun.
Horseburner is the shit.
What's Horseburner?
That's the other band we toured with.
Oh, I've never heard of them.
You should check them out.
Okay, I'm going to check them out right now.
Talk about the tour.
I'm going to look them up.
I mean, really, the sum it all up, it was just, I mean, we were in a car a lot.
A whole lot.
Yeah, and the whole southeast down through Florida.
Yeah.
Do you guys all get one hotel room and just pile in there?
We, there was a few, it kind of changed up here and there.
See, the first part of the journey was, Kim was with us, and then when we headed down.
That's your wife or your fiancé.
Close enough.
Uh, when, but when we headed down to Florida, she came back and, uh, went and worked and then met back up with us in Savannah, Georgia.
Okay.
The Florida drive was by far the worst.
I was crammed in between Q and Dan in the backseat of a Jeep renegade.
Oh, yeah.
Talk about a sardine can.
Yeah.
It was, it was rough.
Um, but, uh, it was well worth it.
Miami was so much fun.
Oh, you guys played in Miami?
Fuck, yeah, we did.
Damn, it was awesome.
Is this horse burner?
Yeah.
Okay.
No, I would like this.
Oh, yeah, you'd love these dudes.
They're the coolest dudes.
Let me hear the guy sing, though.
Is he doing the typical...
No, no.
Really?
You're going to love it.
Okay, check out
The ghost
There's
Oh, okay, yeah
That makes sense
Yeah, cool
Good ass time
Like I said
Not not
I'm trying to think if there's any
Crazy stories
A lot of shitty sound guys
They're from West Virginia, these guys?
Yeah.
So you guys didn't bring your own sound people?
No, we can't afford that yet.
But that's the goal.
I think this is their first major.
This was ours.
Horseball's been doing this for...
They're on a shoestring budget, I would assume.
Absolutely.
They're on a shoestring budget as well, but they've been doing it a lot longer than us.
I can't remember how long they've been a band.
They just recently got a new guitar player.
Matt, he's the shit.
I love all those.
dudes, though. Okay, yeah, cool.
They're actually going on a tour to Europe
next year, I believe.
Yeah, I can see that.
Yeah, the Scandinavian countries will really like
them. You know, we're in the home of
Musugga and all that kind of stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool.
And Adam, their drummer, probably has
the most fantastic facial expressions
of any drummer I've ever seen.
Straight up.
Well, cool. I love Adam.
Yeah, no, that's awesome, man.
So, yeah, if you got a chance to see Indigo's, call in, you know, send them some props.
Yeah, you never know.
There might have been somebody that was there that actually listens to this shit.
Yeah, I saw them in Bristol Rhythm and Roots, and they were fabulous.
Oh, yeah, I didn't get a chance to check you after the show.
No, you know, these rock stars.
I had so many problems at that gig.
Did you notice?
Yes, a lot of issues.
But they, everybody's sounding great.
I got it dialed in there finally.
I love it.
Well, that's cool.
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Well, congratulations on your first East Coast tour.
Well, thanks, bud.
It was a good-ass time.
Like I said, a lot of good venues, a lot of good crowds.
Could you tell, like Benny Goodman, this is back in the day, but slightly analogous,
because he was quite the rebel in his time.
You know, they went from town to town, and when they got to one town,
it was something that they had played got on the radio.
and then so they were playing
to like 10 and 15 people
and then they get to this next one
and there's like you know
the people are just
it was like the Beatles
you know cramming in to see them
oh shit and so I just wondering
if you guys had any experience like that
where all of a sudden things you could tell
that the crowds were getting turned on
we didn't I mean we the crowds
I can't remember specific venues
because it's been a few weeks since then
and there's been so much happened
in between then and now
but it was a very
there wasn't any like crazy crowd moments
but all the crowds were extremely organic
and really fucking cool people.
It was a good-ass time.
Like I said, some shitty sound
guys along the way. That was always funny.
Yeah, we need to do something about that.
Hell, you know, your old buddy was an
audio engineer. I mean, once an audio engineer,
always an audio engineer, whether you're a doctor
or not. I need to go on tour
with you guys. Why not? Absolutely. You're more
than welcome. I don't think you're going to afford him.
Well, that's something,
you know, if I could, hell, I would do that
once I retire
I would just go on the road
and be your sound guy
Just holler my friend
Okay
We'll take you with
Do you take your own PA and stuff
Or are you using everybody else's shit
Because that's part of the problem
Actually no
We most venues
Like at the level that we're playing
Like I said
These
These places are so particular
And they do not
Cater to us at all
Like I'm talking small venues
What do you mean
Do they don't cater to you
They want you to use their sound equipment?
Well, we have to.
I mean, there's no other option.
Well, how does that even work?
I don't know.
It's a push-pool.
It's a push-pull right off the start.
We, since this being our first tour, I was so fucking angry by the end of it with sound guys.
Because I'm just, in my opinion, fuck micing my goddamn amp.
You don't need to in a small venue.
I can push my volume as much as your little PA can.
That's the cool way to do it, though, because they've seen.
the, you know, Leonard Skinner
do that.
Exactly.
I just, I'm not, I don't want to talk
too much trash about the people involved,
but like, it's just to me, it's like
No, it's fine. It's a win-win
situation. Like, we listen
to the sound guys, the sound guys should listen
to us a little bit too. Like, if we're playing an
arena, I get it, but we're not.
We're playing in smaller venues that
our amps are fully capable.
Well, you know your music and they don't, and the
thing, this is what drives me crazy.
It's like bass player some places.
I was friends with Red Clay Ramblers
and Chapel Hill
and whoever joined the band
the most recently had to play the bass
because nobody wanted to play bass
so you always got somebody
that played some other instrument
and he was forced to play bass
I think
and as an audio engineer myself
it pisses me off when they go
well okay you know
in some bar well you're the new guy
you run the sound
because it's not fun
there was a few of the sound guys that were in that
situation a few new guys that had
just joined up with venues and stuff like that.
Yes, and it's like what don't, you need to put your most experienced person on doing sound,
in my opinion.
Oh, agreed.
And let the least experienced person, you know, be pouring beers and shit.
It's, it's just interesting because we tried to make their jobs easier and they didn't want that.
Right, right.
They wanted to make it complicated and not sound as good.
It's as simple as that.
The only, I think the funniest one, though, by far was the guy who, after, basically,
Basically, like, we didn't argue with them.
He made us use...
Did we end up using a house kit at that venue?
I think he tried to make us use a house kit.
And we were like, absolutely not.
Wow.
Like, they had it set up.
He's like, but I have it set up for you guys.
And it's like...
Yeah, some peevy, you know...
It was a trash kit.
I can't...
You'd have to talk to the drummers to understand how bad it was
because I'm not a drummer, but it was bad.
From back when Sears sold...
And he was so offended when we did not want to use their house kit.
Yeah.
And it's just like, dude, absolutely not.
And, uh, he was just pissed he had to set it back.
Well, afterwards he, like I said, I got a big talking to about, like, not directed at me, about himself and how he's trying to take a new leaf in life and be more positive and not be angry at people all the time of it.
I was just like, Jesus, please leave.
When somebody gives you that rap, that means they're pissed as shit at you.
Oh, yeah, probably. I was like, just please go. Yeah. Yeah. We're just as unhappy as you are about this right now.
Oh, that's too bad. Uh, but even, even with all of that going on, um, the shows were still fantastic.
I'm not going to name any venues
When you guys were spoiled too
Because you had
I mean
You know what
Some of the venues you had here
You've got some pretty good people
Like at the hideaway
Oh yeah
Tarvo's got us taking care of
When he was at Sleepy Isle
knew what he was doing
We got so lucky
I'm gonna drop Kevin
At Rhythm and Roots we played
You weren't at this one
It was the day before on Friday
And by the way
It's outdoor a good
If you guys ever want to go to a cool
music weekend
Come to Bristol
Virginia for Rhythm and Roots
It's just Google it.
It's awesome.
It's not just fiddling banjo shit.
No, it's everything.
They sometimes try to push that, but we push back and we bring other stuff to the plate.
We actually got featured in their recap video, which we're really excited about.
We showed up in there.
Randy was getting it, and you see Taylor in the background with the Taylor face.
Yeah, well, of course, nobody knows who you're talking about, but your singer has a very distinctive appearance because of her dreadlocks and stuff,
when she's slinging them around.
You've got to be careful when she's slinging them.
You don't see that every day.
She'll be real good with them.
So if you want a visual element on your video,
of course you're going to feature you guys.
The Cat of Nine Tails.
Indeed.
Anyway, cool.
We ran into the sound guy we had,
and this is just a testimony to having a good sound guy.
The sound guy at our Mannons gig,
the first day of Rhythm and Roots,
was the guy whose basement our band started in.
Oh, yeah, cool.
And it was just so great.
Yeah.
It was so great to have someone who knew how to run some fucking sound.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sound guys out there, chill out sometimes.
I'd still like to record you guys doing an acoustic set, though.
I'm hit.
Or just a couple of tunes.
I mean, why not?
Just do it unplugged.
You need to do an unplugged thing.
Let's experiment.
The other thing, if you're going to listen to Indie Ghost on, and I'll stop licking your balls here in a minute.
But if you're going to listen to them on Spotify, it's great.
But the magic of Indy Ghost is hearing them live.
I'll agree with you.
They're a live band, and you're approximating the experience listening to it in the studio.
But I would love to see you guys do a live album sometimes so people can get an idea of how charge that atmosphere is when you guys play live.
Hell yeah.
I mean, I'm getting ready to probably make a few live recording on tape, but that's going to be like one direction.
versus like an actual live recording.
Well, maybe that's something we could do together.
Anyway, we'll talk about that after, but, you know,
that would be something I would like to be involved in.
I would love to do a live recording of you guys.
All right.
Well, anyway, Dr. Scott, you were sick as F.
And I missed a couple of shows.
Let's talk about that for a minute.
So you had blood coming out of your ass.
Well, yeah, that was part of the problem.
And then you thought that you had the flu, which is, I guess, you know.
It's showing up now.
Maybe they.
I was the first.
Yeah, but you don't have blood coming out of your ass as a symptom of the flu.
That's my point.
No, and I totally agree.
I had two separate things going on.
Yeah, in retrospect.
In retrospect.
Yeah, but I, um...
Yeah, so what happened?
So, yes.
Tell the story.
You're a horrible storyteller.
Well, I'm waiting on you to stop talking.
It's my fault.
It's my fault.
No, but you know what, I had a, I had three days of some, what we would refer to as Frank
blood, which is a lot of red blood.
which is a lot of red blood with a bowel movement.
As opposed to George Wood, don't you know,
and it was profoundly painful.
It wasn't my first word.
It was the first time it had lasted for a number of days and it was so profound.
Do you have any pain with it?
Oh, yeah.
So you had painful bright red blood per rectum.
So for the people out there, that's actually a good sign usually.
It usually is a sign that you've got, you know, a tortured hemorrhoid or fissure.
Or a rectal fissure.
And thankfully, anal fissure.
And it wasn't the first time I might experience it.
Which was not Joey Buttafouca's girlfriend, but rather an anatomic defect.
That's a pretty big.
He's too young.
That's a big stretch, but I like it.
I, um, but you know, Joey Butterfooker's girlfriend was named Amy Fisher.
So if you have to be excited.
No good. But anyway, sorry. That's okay.
Yeah, but I tell you, it's not the first time.
And as we talked about it on the show a thousand times,
anytime you have blood with bowel moments,
it's the first time you always get it worked up and get it checked out.
Dr. Steve's rule of blood in the stool is the first time you see blood coming out of your ass, get it checked.
That's an issue.
Then if they say, no, it's hemorrhoids, and you know that's what is,
the next time you can blow it off, but the first time you've got to get it checked out.
Right on, yeah.
So that was a concern.
And you did not do that.
Well, I did following, but she was in all of a sudden after, and I'm going to blame it on Cody because it's about five days after I saw Cody, maybe it's his fault.
It was that guitar playing.
Hey, Cody was typhoid.
Mary, he had the damn shit while he was in Florida.
Yeah.
But I, you know, what happened?
He gave it to you.
Oh, yeah, I'm playing on him.
So I was in clinic and I was in there seeing some patients.
I stopped being able to move my arms and my fingers were starting to go numb and my legs were really getting professional.
profoundly aching. I was like, well, shit, there's only one thing that can cause this.
I've got the flu. About the time I started shivering uncontrollably.
And the reason I went, and I took Dr. Steve's advice and had everything worked up just to make
sure it was not like a perforated, you know, bowel from a diverticulum that had ruptured
and I was septic or something. Let's talk about that.
Painless red blood per rectum can be from a lot of things, but one of them can be a
diverticular bleed.
So diverticially, Cody, are thin-walled pockets that bloop out of the colon.
So think of, the analogy I always used is when I was a kid, we had tires that had intertubes.
Yeah.
So you had an elastic inner tube and a very tough outer tube, right?
Yeah.
So imagine the colon is kind of like that.
You've got a fibrous outer layer and an elastic end.
inner layer and if you have a giant American turd repeatedly that blasts down there and it breaks
open that fibrous outer so it splits the elastic inner lining will bloop out of that split right
and you'll get in this little pocket yeah and they're very thin wall because it's really just the
the inner wall that's that makes up that pocket and those things can bleed like crazy now if they
get infected it causes diverticulitis then it'll cause pain but they don't have to be infected to
bleed so you can get painless bright red blood per rectum you and and it really depends on you know if
you have a turd and it's just pure brown and then it's followed by blood that means one thing
you know that the you know the blood is following what does that mean actually it means you've
ripped something open right as the stool as a as a turd's coming through it's ripped open
Good to know.
A fissure or a hemorrhoid possibly.
I've had moments like this many, many a time.
Okay.
That's why I'm paying very close attention.
If it's swirled around.
A lot of people have yet.
If it's swirled around in the turd, then that's different.
Then that means that the bleeding is farther up and it's had a chance to add mix with the stool.
Well, that makes me feel a lot better.
Yeah.
Well, still getting checked out.
I've been checked out.
I went to a gastro a long, long time ago.
And, but I've just now figured.
out how to like basically keep it in check if that makes sense he diagnosed it as hemorrhoids i
have a stage what is it stage three i don't know how you stage a hem right there either big as
hell and they're bleeding like i got one big one that probably won't go away on its own oh we can
talk about how to fix that but hey and i would like to real quick just dive into just how to soften
up the stools a little bit yeah go go for it if it's all right with you we got us we need to do that
in this country because we're all eating you're going to need to tune that sucker up that's
Oh, is that what the pass was for?
Yeah.
And I've got, so I've got a good little concoction.
It's Miralax.
I do a cap of Miralax at bedtime.
Miralax is polyethylene glycol.
It's a, basically plastic.
Yeah.
It's a, but it takes on water and it keeps it.
So it's coating insides and plastic.
It kind of sucks everything, it sucks the moisture in out of your body, so it makes the stool pass through much more comfortably.
And other thing, Dr. Steve, that I use it, maybe a little bit.
A lot of people don't know anything about is I like aloe water.
Okay.
Allo waters.
And the brand I use this is it's called George's Allo Water.
But what I've found is it really works extremely well on soothing and irritable bowel.
And then, of course, I took Dr. Steve's advice and got some interragam.
Is that helping you?
I think it is.
I think it is helping.
So interagam is basically bovine antibodies.
They don't waste anything when they slaughter a cow.
And so they take out its blood and take out.
out the antibodies.
And what's weird is you can take them by mouth and they'll make their way through to your colon.
And if there's bacterial bodies or other things in there, including that dreaded word toxins,
that are coming in contact with the bowel wall and causing inflammation, these antibodies will bind
those and prevent them from becoming in contact with that bowel wall and decreasing the
inflammation.
It's great for irritable bowel.
syndrome and other inflammatory bowel conditions, including we did an article in the medical
literature about using it for chemotherapy related what we call mucusitis, meaning, you know,
mucus inflammation.
And people will get that with chemo and stuff.
And actually, that interagam works pretty well for that as well.
And it's not indicated for that here.
It has worked.
But my stomach feels profoundly better with that regimen.
And I think what had that happened, I'd just gotten a little out of control as far as not keeping my colon moist and happy, if you know what I mean.
And then, I'm telling you what, after that, it was much, much, much better.
Good.
So you're better, Cody's better?
Everybody's better.
Yeah, all my, just to clarify, all my blood went away strictly through like a variety of a diet, like not eating one thing.
too much.
Yeah, that's right.
Shitload.
People who just eat chicken fingers all the time, and we have a friend who does that, you know,
I'm always concerned about the monotony of their diet for a lot of reasons.
They're missing out on micronutrients and stuff.
And, you know, if you have somebody cleaning your house or if you clean your house and you
routinely miss one corner, it's fine for a year or two, but then, you know, all of a sudden
you'll notice just this shit just piled up there.
And because of a, it's just sort of a methodical missing of that area.
And the same thing is true if you just eat the same thing every day.
You can get away with it for a long time.
But after a while, there will be things that you're missing out on that will kind of accumulate.
The deficit will actually accumulate.
So, yeah, having a more varied diet is better.
We were designed to eat lots of different things.
Yeah.
You know.
Well, you know, they say guerrillas in a wild.
they eat like 40 different varieties of plants.
Is that right?
Yeah, now, you know, but when they're in captivity,
they get, you know, just like us,
they get some spinach and some kale and some other things.
And that's one of the reasons why they've had trouble
with wild animals and reproduction.
Interesting.
It's my sense.
Never would have thought about it.
That makes a whole lot of sense, actually.
Let me do a news story for you guys.
I found this that I just found it to be interesting.
This is from medical news today.
called vampires and rabies.
Well, what's the link?
At first there appears to be little to link
a mythical blood-sucking beast.
Oh, no.
And a serious medical condition.
However, as we shall see,
the two could very much be entwined.
Of course, they, you know,
back when the vampire legends started,
they didn't have rabies vaccine,
people, you know, particularly,
people who
don't like vaccines
think of rabies
at least think of rabies
we don't
kids do not fear
wild or you know
strange dogs like they did
when I was a kid
because when I was a kid
they used to run these PSAs on TV
they were black and white
this guy coming down the stairs
then boom boom boom you know
the rabies had kick in
and it terrified me
gave me nightmares
you know and we were terrified
I have friends who live in India
where they don't, in areas of India where they don't have routine vaccination of dogs,
and they're terrified of dogs.
Yeah.
Because they're monsters.
In a place where you have rabies, this endemic, strange dogs are monsters that will kill you.
Oh, that's terrifying.
Yeah, it is terrifying.
And we just go, well, there's a dog, you know, because we're so used to our animals being vaccinated for rabies.
But anyway, okay, vampires are so entrenched in our psyche that there's a probability not one adult in the whole of the Western world doesn't know who Dracula is.
Yeah, I'd say he's a pretty famous mythical figure.
According to some researchers, the origin of the vampire myth could be rooted in a very real menace.
Rabies.
There's this guy at the hospital, and he's actually from Transylvania, which is in Romania, right?
He's Romanian.
Romania, yeah.
And his name is Radoo.
And so whenever I call him on the phone, like I have to need him to do something, he's a doctor.
I'll always go, Rado, Rado, drives him crazy.
He's not a big fan.
He doesn't love it.
You shouldn't stop.
No, I will never stop.
It's just too great.
It's too good.
Rabies is a deadly virus that is transmitted to humans by the bite of an infected animal.
Globally, it kills an estimated 60,000 people a year.
Holy shit.
That equates to one death every nine minutes.
That means besides the people that just died of boredom listening to this,
we've killed at least four people during the show.
No, I got more than that.
Five people.
That's nuts.
Initial symptoms are only flu-like, but once they appear rabies, rabies is almost always fatal.
Creatures that carry the virus include skunks, dogs, coyotes, foxes, and you get it.
Vampire bats.
But that's not the connection with the mythical vampires that we're discussing today.
In the 1700s, vampires were not just legends.
As far as normal fork were concerned, vampires were a genuine worry, as Voltaire said.
Voltaire talked about vampires.
Vampires were the sole matter of conversation between 1730 and 1735.
And it just so happens that there was a rabies epidemic in Hungary in the 1720s.
The very time and place where the vampire legend appears to have taken.
The similarities run deeper still, so let's talk about it.
The following links were made by Dr. Gomez Alonzo, a Spanish neurologist who published his intriguing theory in the journal Neurology in 1998, which is no just throwaway journal.
Vampires are almost always depicted as male.
Rabies affects men seven times more often than women.
I wonder why that is.
Biting, individuals with rabies become particularly aggressive and sometimes.
bite or attempt to bite other people.
So this would be more like the Nospheratu variety of vampire.
Like Peter in the, what we do in the shadows.
Have you seen that?
No.
Everyone should go watch that movie right now.
What's the name of the movie?
What we do in the shadows?
I think that's what it is.
Oh, I've heard about that.
I've been mean to check that out, actually.
It's hilarious.
And then they did a TV show, which is also awesome.
so the
and you should watch the movie
and then immediately go watch the TV show
but
in the movie they had
Nosferatu basically
was 4,000 year old vampire
that lived in a closet
downstairs and they're like oh no
Peter ate the pizza man
again you know but he was just
savage you know as opposed to
the cultured sort of Dracula type
vampire. How funny. Aversions
rabies might cause people to become a
first to strong or surprising stimuli, including odors.
Ooh.
Such as garlic.
Light and mirrors.
That explains it.
And mirrors.
In fact, according to this paper, a man was not considered rabbit if he was able to stand the sight of his own image in a mirror.
When someone with rabies comes into contact with such stimuli, their face can become contorted as the facial muscle spasm.
Their lips curl back to display their teeth and their vocal cords make.
contract producing horse sounds.
And they become hypersexual.
They, oh, you know, transformation vampires are often depicted turning into other animals,
a bat being the most common.
Animals with rabies behave in much the same way as humans with rabies.
It's not too much of a leap of the imagination to think of somebody living in the 18th century
who saw a human and an animal acting similarly might make some sort of link.
They might assume the animal and beast were morphing into each other.
That almost makes being a vampire sound so bad, doesn't it?
Yeah, no, you know, the modern vampire, that looks awesome.
That doesn't sound bad to me.
Having all kinds of intercourse.
That's right.
Hypersexual.
Yeah, and they can get, you know, they can just attract people to them.
Matter of fact, that the TV show, what we do in the shadows, there's all kinds of that going on.
Do you know what they base Dracula off of?
The person who they based it off of?
Yeah, Vlad the Impaler, right?
Actually, I don't know.
Vlad Dracool.
I was listening to a podcast about this the other day on Mini Morbid, or not Mini Morbid.
Morbid is the name of the podcast.
It's a really good one if you haven't checked it out.
It's actually on the Countess Elizabeth Bathory.
What?
Yep.
She was, I guess, to date, the worst female serial killer and was the true inspiration for Brom Stoker's Dracula.
Stoker, but yes.
Countess Bathory?
Yeah, she was obsessed with torturing and killing servants.
Oh, now, was she in New Orleans?
Because there was a woman in New Orleans that pulled that crap.
She was Hungarian.
Yeah, she was in Hungary.
Okay, Hungary is really fascinating.
I don't know if you haven't heard about her.
I would check her out.
Cereal killer from the noble family of Batari.
She was a wild woman.
Hey, my ex-wife's mill name is Bathory.
She was the woman that supposedly bathed in blood.
For real?
Is that true?
Yes, it is.
Maria Bathory.
She's been...
labeled by the Guinness World Book of Records
is the most prolific female murderer.
The precise number of victims is debated.
She and four collaborators were accused of torturing
and killing hundreds of young women
between 1585 and 1609.
Yeah, you could get away with more of that.
So there's a legend, and I don't know if it's true,
in New Orleans of this woman that was taking people
and, like, doing human centipede type stuff with them
and doing all kinds of weird.
experiments, and she would keep them in the basement, and they were screaming, you know, for help, and people thought the place was haunted.
So when it burned down, they didn't go in to save anybody.
Oh, for God's such.
Something like that.
Somebody can maybe correct me on that story, but that was crazy.
Oh, that's crazy.
Yeah, the stories of her sadistic serial murders are verified by testimony more than 300 witnesses and survivors, as well as physical evidence in the presence of horribly mutated dead dying and imprisoned girls found at the time of her arrest.
Wow, stories depicting her vampiric tendencies,
most famously the tale that she bathed in the blood of...
Oh, hang on.
She bathed in the blood of virgins to retain her youth.
Were generally recorded years after her death
or considered unreliable.
Okay.
Wow.
Okay, yeah.
She's often compared to Vlad, the Impaler,
on whom the fictional Crown Dracula is partly based.
Someone says she inspired,
Bram Stokers, Dracula, though there is no evidence to support this hypothesis.
But it's an interesting theory.
Yeah, it was a really good podcast.
That's a really effed up people in this world.
She was definitely effed up.
Yeah.
Regardless if the rumors are true or not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she was effed up.
Yeah.
Wow.
Did you see, I guess the guy they've got out in, is he in California now or somewhere that's...
Oh, yeah, he did like 98 people or something.
Yeah, that's bad.
Cut the shit, serial killers.
Be nice.
I don't think that.
They can, though.
Why can't them serial killers just be nice?
How can they just get along?
Are they even people?
I don't know.
It depends on your definition, I guess.
I guess so.
Are we going to play a tune since we've got Cody here?
Yeah, man.
Let's make him play something he doesn't know.
Let's make him play something.
He's a professional.
Oh, I don't know about that.
He is a professional.
I'll wing something, though.
Anytime.
Well, you can do a...
Okay, so this is in G, right?
Gee. Got a little volume on mic.
Oh, where are you?
Let me hear Cody a little bit.
Oh, that's dope.
That's close.
I had it earlier.
Well, you know, the strings on that thing are so old.
No, you just have the thing re-strung.
I was about to say you still have the service tag for your string.
It's like two years ago.
What's the date on it?
Oh, my God.
Two years?
2014 oh shit man i swear you i thought it was like two years ago
unless that's a nine it's either a 14 or a 19 it's not a nine oh it's a 14
yeah there's no way dude i remember when you did because i picked it i brought it back over to the
house that's how long we've been doing this
you got it you don't have any processing for you unless you want to plug into that
app if we can just mic that amp that's up to you guys i'll play whatever
well you got a solo in this so oh do i yeah so many of get that thing tuned up
I tuned it
Well, it's probably the strings
I'll get it re-strung
I'll string it for you
Really?
Yeah
Well, I can string it
Okay, good
I saw the service tag
And I got worried there
No, I'm just lazy
And I'm rich
So I can make up
Okay, that's understandable
He doesn't string things
Because he doesn't
He has people
String things for him
Well, I'll be your stringer
If you need one
He can string
By the way,
If you're listening to this
And wondering what
In the F, are they doing?
This is our vacation shows.
What a home?
I guess while you're doing that, I could take a call.
Yeah, let's do that.
Yeah, let's do that.
It's down, yeah.
Yo, Doc, I've got an odd question.
Is a pain above my left eyebrow when I push on it slightly?
it feels sub-dermal, but it's, I don't know how to describe it.
It's only when I, like, touch on it.
Well, I guess I can make it, no, I can't feel it when I, like, furrow my brow.
But if I rub, as if I'm just kind of massaging gently above my left eyebrow.
Yes.
It's like a deep pain that kind of.
Doc, it hurts when I do this.
We'll stop doing it.
almost always it's going to be a subdermal cyst he's exactly right it's subdermal and there's just not a lot of space between the eyebrow and the skull so when you get a little cyst in there it will be painful when you push on it it could even be a zit so if it goes away quickly it's a zit if it doesn't it may be a subdermal cyst just let your primary care look at it especially if he's wearing hats or something yeah yeah and and if it grows it probably you're going to want it removed
but that's most likely what it is.
All right.
So are we ready?
I think so.
Okay, let's get a level here.
Let me...
Tess, Tess, Tiz.
You get a little on, Cody.
Remember, the louder code is the less they can hear us.
Yep.
That's a good thing.
More value.
All right, so this is just a typical country thing, but the chorus has a little weirdness.
So just less, and you'll pick it up.
I'll follow along slowly.
Yeah, the weirdness in there, you just let it flow, baby.
Indeed, indeed.
Let it flow.
So, have about a little.
Well, I've been spending off my money on wheat and pills
Trying to write a song that'll pay the bills
But I ain't seen one yet
I guess I'll have to rob a bank
I guess it could be worse
It ain't that bad
At least I ain't sitting in old Baghdad
In the middle of a hot damn desert
Licking in a tank
Every time my wife talks a baby
it's mentioned i'm so broke i can't pay attention
lord how it tears me up to see her cry
so i've been spending all my nights on the internet
looking for it but ain't found one yet
just a bunch of old vocal guitars
shit i ain't by
well lord if you can hear me won't you throw a durn dog up on
Because if the devil shows up with a better deal, I'm gone.
I sing them real pretty, sing them real sad,
and people in the crowds that it ain't happen.
They call me king to turn him shipping if you wanted, you can have to have a ground.
I've been sitting on my ass like a bump on the law,
watching old Annie and old boss home.
I guess I ought to get up by myself a job.
Instead of sitting on the couch trying to write the next line,
I guess there ought to be a better use of my time.
Like figuring out which one of these banks I'm going to rob.
Well, the game of the game is hurrying away,
but that ain't putting no food on my place or gas in my car.
And I'd drive a Bronco.
So, Lord, if I can get me a record,
I might not have to worry about my next miss,
but I'll still be trying to figure out what rhymes with Bronco.
Well, Lord, if you can hear me, won't you throw a damn dog up on?
Because if the devil shows up with a better deal, I'm gone.
Well, I sing them real ready, sing them real sad.
And the people in the south said it ain't as bad.
And call me King Turr, Pierr, and shit, meant if you wanted, you're going to have a ground.
Well, they call me King Turt to Peerlton Mountain if you wanted, you're going to have a ground.
Cody, feel like plays a bit?
Take it, Cody.
Well, they come, kick, turn, peel, shit, and if you want it, you can have the ground.
Warning on that ending would have been.
I couldn't hear Cody either.
I'm sorry, Cody.
I cranked you all the way up, too.
Is that all the way up?
We're going to have, man, I'm going to bring my fuzz pedal.
Okay, I can, I mean, we weren't planning on you playing today, so.
No.
Well, why not?
Amen.
No, I can, I can totally get you hooked up.
Well, I did a little bit of a solo there.
I couldn't hear it, but I think it was, I think it was mighty fine, if I do say to myself.
Well, no one will ever know.
that's fine
I'll know deep in my heart
all right
we got four minutes left
questions questions
or you'll play something else too
yeah we'll play it out
we'll play it out
hey it's our show
oh yeah here we go
this is aproposite
hey doctor Steve
I just want to call and tell you that
this is my second year in a row
getting a flu shot
good boy with you know
no issues at all
it didn't even really feel it
and I certainly didn't get sick.
I was one of those in the past that had thought that I had gotten ill from getting the flu shot.
But, in fact, it's been two years now, and I feel great.
And it's because of you.
If I didn't listen to you, I probably would have never got another flu shot in my life.
Back then, 15, 20 years ago, I forgot what it was.
I spent the worst $20 I've ever spent.
I was sticking for the week.
But anyway, just wanted to let you know that.
Hey, thanks, man.
Well, just so everybody understands, again, the regular quadravalent flu shot or the trivalent flu shot, not the flu mist, but the shot, was never a virus.
It was never a complete virus.
These proteins are grown in, you know, in a culture, and you cannot get influenza from a flu shot.
Now, let me see here.
Why am I?
There we go.
You can feel like crap afterward.
You can get muscle aches and feel feverish and feel like crud,
but it will not kill you unlike influenza.
Now, is it without risk?
Absolutely not.
Of course there's risk.
There's risk to everything.
And there are some people who are, uh-oh.
Yeah, right on town.
We haven't had Tacey call in quite a while.
let's see what she's got to say
Tacey, you're on weird medicine
Okay, we've got people here
Okay
I thought you were just still recording
Yes
You're on weird medicine
Yeah, I know, okay
We'll be down a minute
Bye
She's late calling in a day
Well, and I told those jackasses
If they were going to come
It's people to look at our house
To do some work
I said if you're going to come
You got to call me
before you head over.
I don't.
So I can tell them if I'm available.
And they just show up.
So anyway.
Where were we?
Oh, flu shot.
Can't get the flu from the flu shot.
Now, the flu missed is a live attenuated virus.
That's, they give that to kids.
They spray it up their nose.
And you were supposed to get better immunity from it because it's a live virus.
And you can spread that around.
Very few people get sick.
Every once in a while, you get somebody that,
will be very susceptible to the influenza vaccine,
and they'll get a thing called Gian Barre syndrome,
which is a horrible thing when it happens,
where you get paralysis of the legs,
and it's called ascending neuritis
because it continues to ascend,
and if it comes all the way up to the nerves
that control breathing, that's a problem.
I've seen one case of that in my life.
I've seen three.
Well, good for you.
No, I mean, not to not the same thing later.
Not that one.
That's what I mentioned.
Yes, but it's not, it's rare.
It's very rare.
Here, I'll give you one of these, too.
Give yourself a bill.
But I've only seen one of my career,
but I've seen tons of people end up on the ventilator from influenza
that didn't have their flu shot, so there you go.
So check out Cody and his band, an Indy Ghost band,
on Twitter and or just Indy Ghost on Spotify.
And if you get a chance to see them live,
that's really the thing to do.
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and check him out
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