Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 384 - Happy Thanksgiving, Chrissie Mayr!

Episode Date: November 27, 2019

Dr Steve, Daniel Stout (stoutlabs.com), Cody Gilmer (@indighostband) and Dr Scott discuss sex headaches and influenza vaccine with Chrissie Mayr from "The Wet Spot" on Compound Media. Plus a Thanksgiving song! [Ugh, count how many times I say "Delightful" in the first 3 minutes of Chrissie's appearance. What a creep.] PLEASE VISIT: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) simplyherbals.net (Dr Scott’s nasal rinse is here!) noom.doctorsteve.com (lose weight, gain you-know-what) tweakedaudio.com offer code “FLUID” (best CS anywhere) premium.doctorsteve.com (all this can be yours!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Dr. Steve. My little pal, Dr. Scott, the traditional Chinese medical practitioner who keeps the alternative medicine wackos at Bayello, Dr. Scott. Hey, Dr. Steed. We also have Danielson, Daniel Stout, from Stoutlabs.com. Is it Stoutlabs.com or Stoutlabs.com? Stout Labs. With an S.

Hi. Plural. He has more than one lab. And he's a coder extraordinaire if you need coding for your website or any kind of database stuff online, all that kind of crap. he can do it and is amazing. So he's really good. And also, a future coder, Cody Gilmer.

Boy. He's a codee, but he's going to be a coder. We hope so. Is a codee the person that you code for? Daniel, I guess it would be. You're the coder, so they would be the codee. I call that the person with money. Oh, there you go.

Exactly, right. This is a show for people who would never listen to a medical show on the radio. The internet, if you've got a question, you're embarrassed to take your regular medical provider. If you can't find an answer anywhere else, give us a call. 347-7-66-4-3-3-2-3. That's 347. Poo-Head. Sorry. I'm so used to doing it by myself. Sorry, Dr. Scott. You can do this one. Poo-Head. Follow us on Twitter at Weird Medicine.

At D.R. Scott W.M. At Stout Labs. Right? That's correct. And, Cody, you're not on. But you can follow his band at at Indie Ghost Band. And you should follow them. and also tell South by Southwest to effing have them this year. Have you heard anything? I'm talking to you.

Oh, you're talking to me? You're like looking at the computer. I mean, there's been a few things on there, not from them. No, not a thing from them yet. Yeah, nothing yet. Nothing yet. But you guys applied for South Dubai. You have to apply.

Yeah, yeah, no, the application is put in. I have seen some of your followers putting up stuff. Have you? And I appreciate that, guys, very much so. Yeah. Cool. So at SX-X-W. and tell them you want at Indy Ghost Band.

That would be bad ass. Or you're not coming. That's what I'm going to say. Hell, yeah, raise hell with them. Tell them that we could bring the weird medicine show there and we do a. Well, you know, we could do that. Actually, they have, like, classes and stuff. It's like Moogfest in the sense that you go and there are little classrooms and seminars and stuff.

We could do a live podcast. Oh, yeah. Totally. It'd be cool. I love me some awesome. I love keeping it weird. Medical. They're a lot of Texas.

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It does? No, no. I don't sound different than you? Well, I think your voice sounds a little different, but not your mic. Okay, that's what I want to know. Thank you. You're welcome. Check out stuff.doctrsteve.com.

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Except for that time that we thought it was a sinus infection, it was the flu. Oh, yeah. Then it wasn't so good. Yeah, they're not so good. We'll be talking about that in a minute. We have a great guest coming up. Let me get through these plugs. Noom.

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Daniel's a little. a pretty good fella. He did our E.T.N. Comedy website. It took him literally five minutes to do it. And then he's worked with me on the Dr.steve.com website as well, but I've got some ideas for stuff that we want to do.

And Cody told me he wanted to code because he's sick of having a day job being, you know, prepping the hors d'oeuvre, the app line, right? All of it. I'm all inclusive in that damn restaurant. I'm just over it. Don't name any names.

But, you know, just working in a restaurant is hard. I'm just over it. Even if you're the executive chef, from what I hear from executive chefs, it kind of sucks. So it's... I've been doing the same job for eight years now, and I'm not getting paid what I'd want to get paid to do it. And I'm just done. Well, and you need to get paid being the guitarist for Indy Ghost. We're working hard.

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But it's called Kingsport and that's where we Do our comedy events is in Kingsport, Tennessee Yeah And yeah Jackal is from there I feel like I've heard that before but I didn't log it That's ridiculous Called the hardest working band in Rock Because I think they would work like 360 days a year

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She's a regular on Sirius X-Am and the Gass Digital Network. She's seen on Wendy Williams. That I'd like to see. I want to talk to you about that. The Reels Network and New York Comedy Festival, welcome everybody, Chrissy Mayer. She's delightful. Hello, guys. This is thrilling to be here.

And, you know, had I known that this would be audio only, I wouldn't have worn a push-up broth. You look delightful. And the way I have the studio set up, I'm the only one that can see it, but thank you very much. Oh, wow. Okay. It looks like a private show. It is very much. Yeah, actually the full name of my show is Chrissy Mayer's wet spot, which is very specific. That is very specific.

Yeah. Yeah, I thought of the name, and then I was like, no, I can't name it that. That's too gross. And my boyfriend was like, no, that's actually perfect. It is perfect. It's a great show, and it adds a bit of estrogen to an otherwise estrogen-free kind of network. And you get to hang out with the delight. delightful Pat Dixon and some of the other folks that are over there at Compound Media.

So, no, that's cool. That's cool. It's great. People should check it out. Do you guys ever do free weeks anymore for people that aren't subscribers so that they can check it out? I know that one time they were doing that. Yeah, I know that they were too. I think I need to remind them to do it a bit more often. I was working on seeing if I could get like two-week free passes to give out to people because I think just the occasional free So it on YouTube is not quite enough. So I'm going to remind the Big Daddy's a compound to get on that two-week pass. Yeah, I think this is just a really, you know, it's the Wild West.

Nobody really has a real hand. Well, maybe Joe Rogan does, but other than him, we're all still just trying to figure out how in the hell to make this thing work. Yeah, yeah, I'm on a horse right now. It really is a wild west. But you're a stand-up, but you have a day job as well. Yes, and I don't really talk about it because it's like the least interested. But, you know, I don't mind because I'm not one of these comics that's, like, okay to just eat ramen and be poor.

So I'm like, you know what, my parents paid for me to go to college, like, let me hang on to health insurance as long as I can. Absolutely. No, that's great. And we can talk about that stuff, too. you actually had a question for us one of the reasons I wanted to have you on is because you and I got into a thing and people thought we were getting heated

I was never what is that? Did you say your doorbell? I think he's doorbell. Okay. I don't know what the hell that was. Unless you just said the magic word. Yes, it's Croucho and I said the magic word.

Did you say heated? People thought you and I were in a heated discussion. I never took it that way. I thought it was really fun. Oh, yeah. But we were talking about influenza vaccine. And then I said, well, you need to get you on and we can even debate this if you want to. But you asked me a very interesting question that you wanted to talk about.

And I wondered if there was some basis for it. But go ahead. Tell us what that very interesting medical question is. And then we'll see if we're going to answer it. I mean, of course there's basis for it. Like, I could be really cool and be like, oh, hypothetically. But, I mean, obviously I'm asking this because it's happened. To me, I've experienced it.

It's like, you know, I mean, that's why people ask questions. Sure. That's right. So, and I've noticed that this has happened with my boyfriend like a few times. Like, we've been together like five years. Boyfriend, click. No, I'm just kidding. What?

Nothing. I was being an asshole. I said boyfriend click. Should I have kept that? No, I'm just kidding. Hypothetically, let's say I've been. Or I've been with people where this has happened. I was just being a dip shit.

Go ahead. You know, we're like getting, you know, we're doing what adults do. Before play, getting into sex, right? And then he will get, like, such an intense headache. And sometimes we have to, like, shut it down and go get a snack or something. And I don't know what that's attributed to if it's, like, a tension headache or, like, a lifestyle thing or, you know, like, is it something? Is it, like, a physical symptom of something else? Or is it, like, mind-body connection, like, where you just can get your stuff?

like basically bring it on yourself it's the old classic sex headache and it actually is a real syndrome that some unfortunate people have because you know they might not have a headache any other time except when they're doing the one thing that humans were really kind of created to do which is you know engage in the act of procreation right we've all sort of forgotten that's why it was invented because it's so much fun but so that's a it's a real problem for people and the headache is severe now the first time so for people who are out there um if if this happens to you the first time and it's a thunder clap type headache the worst headache you've ever had real sharp and it can come with orgasm or can come during sexual activity it's not as often after but um if it's the

first time and it comes on suddenly you really got to get it. it checked out because that could be a sign of something else but now if you didn't do that like your boyfriend didn't and then it just keeps right and he didn't die and he happens again and it happens over and over and over again this is the as i said the sort of classic sex headache they um most of the time are nothing to worry about but it makes like you said completing the transaction kind of difficult because uh sometimes it's going to be be so severe, he has to stop. And I'm there waiting for my change, and the transaction is not going to get completed.

That's right, right. Yeah, you're not getting, well, he didn't get in his end either if it's happening before he orgasms. So if it happens during orgasm and you haven't finished yet, yeah, then yeah, it's like, oh, well, I've checked out, and I'm going to go get a pizza. You'd just finish yourself off. See you next month. Yeah, so, right.

So, like I said, usually they're not a cause for a concern, but. But if it's something that is preventing him from enjoying his life, then he should go get checked out. And so what are the causes? Nobody really knows. It could be, there could be serious things that could cause it, like an abnormal connection between the arteries and the veins and the head. They will probably, when they work him up, do an MRI or a CT scan.

Exactly. Very good. You get one of those. Give yourself a B.O. Give yourself a bill So yeah They will do a CT scan of his brain And just to rule out something that could be serious

And once they've ruled that out Then it's really easy to treat this for the most part The people who are at risk for that tend to be males And people who had a history of migraines in the past Did he ever do you know if he has a history of headaches In the remote past? No, I don't think so

I know that he has a history of like this very specific sex headache and it happened to a friend of mine he was a little bit older like in his 50s and he would just get them like really bad migraines and it was but it was like just around sex and he did get checked out and we were like nervous for a second like oh is it a tumor but then she's fine yeah most of the i i've seen when i was doing primary care before i started practicing my specialty i saw quite a few people with this and zero of those as a very small sample size had anything serious. This is just one of those damn things. It's like, why would this happen?

There's no real good reason for it. But it can be treated. So if it happens occasionally, they will recommend a medication called endomethousin, which is an anti-influent, it's a really potent anti-inflammatory agent.

And you take it about an hour before sex, which we use it for gout, too, which is interesting. Well, you know, I get people saying, well, you know, how come you're giving me more for my breathing and you know these are happened to most of them are hospice patients but it's you know that i'll explain it that aspirin is good for ankle sprains but it's also good for preventing heart attack and stroke right so did you say to them like you're all right but i doubt

that you'll get those headaches again if you take this no no you can now you get one of those I'm so surprised I forgot or never knew you were a real doctor at any point. Yeah, it's really hard to believe for the most part. Hey, I will tell you, that endomethousin is tough on your stomach. It can be, and it can be tough on your kidneys too, so that's why I'm saying for occasional use. But you can take it, if you're, you know, like me and you're having sex, you know, once every six months and you have a headache, every time you have it, you can take one an hour ahead of time because if you're like me and on that schedule you've planned this ahead it doesn't just nothing's happening spontaneous man every year before the harvest exactly that's right

hey honey don't be don't be talking about the gout now that that shit that now dr scott does have the gout man that shit's bad for you down here they call it the gouch well fire that'll make you say a lot of dirty words hey you know you did mention those possibly lifestyle stuff with boyfriend and those headaches, which makes me wonder if he's a smoker, if he does have a little hypertension, you know. I mean, other than being smoking hot. Yeah, of course.

Of course he is. But he's also not, like, super duper active either. Okay. That makes four or five of us, please. Yeah, if that were the case, we don't have a sex headaches. So there are some, okay, so that's the occasional medication. You can take it an hour before. and that sometimes will help.

What's it called? It's called indomethicin. I'll send it to you. Oh, In the Medicine. Got it. No, Indomethicin is also, its trade name is Indieson. There is another class of medications called beta blockers, which are excellent for these. It blocks all the sort of less than great males from talking to you.

Exactly. You take a beta blocker, you go out on a Saturday night. Only the cool dudes talk to you. Exactly. See, that's your boyfriend would be the beta blocker that would stop those guys from doing that. But by the way, do you know Jennifer Hutt?

Do you know Jenny Hutt? Jennifer, like Pizza Hutt's daughter? No, I know. No, okay. Ask Anthony. It would be better if you knew her, but she lives right down the street from Anthony. She's on Sirius XM.

And I was at Anthony's house playing poker one night, and Jenny was there. just because she and I had corresponded, but we'd never met. And so I was at Anthony. She came down. And her husband came to pick her out or pick her up. This is the most gorgeous man that I have ever seen in my life.

And Anthony and I were both, you know, after he left, we looked at each other. And we said, oh, my God, that is the most beautiful man that we've ever seen. And so now, if I call it. If I'm on Jenny's show, you know, I'm always like, oh, and now, Jenny, how's that Keith doing, that gorgeous husband here? And it just embarrasses her. I don't know why I said that. Oh, because we were talking about this is the perfect alpha male. This guy looks like a Greek god.

He is, you know, really something. And, you know, it's something when you get too very, you know, nothing wrong with being any other way, but very heterosexual men going, that's a gorgeous dude. Like a Greek god, like he showed up with like a huge cube of feta or something. Yes, well. Like, say, eat this. Exactly right. I don't know. I don't remember.

I was the thunderstruck thing just made me just remember what I, and I look him up. It's Keith Hut, H-U-T-T, Google image him right now, and tell me I'm lying. So anyway, not you, but, you know, people are listening. Anyway. There's something for your spank bank, yeah. So propanolol is the premier beta blocker for this kind of situation. But what's the problem with propranol, Dr. Scott? You can lower your blood pressure.

That's one thing. You can not have great erections. It lowers the blood pressure to the one organ that needs high blood pressure, which is the penis. Exactly right. Why don't they just call it a boner blocker? We did call them that, as a matter of fact. When they first came out, because we were putting everybody on. them and then they came in saying that they couldn't have intercourse matter of fact i got a free

trip to um an island in the caribbean i got to be careful because of hippa uh because i had a let's just say i heard about a patient that came and um his physician in the uh this caribbean island had put him on a beta blocker and his main complaint was that he couldn't have intercourse with his wife and he was a casino manager well shit now i've said too much Blink twice if it was Jeffrey Epstein-Dyling. This was 40 years ago, but anyway, but yeah, I got a free trip out of it by taking this person off the beta blocker and putting them on something else. But they, so that's one of the problems, but they do have cardio-selective beta blockers that have less effect on sexual activity now. So that may be the answer for your boyfriend, because I'm assuming that you guys are at least attempting to have regular intercourse.

it's not just infrequent. I mean, we're both pretty busy. I'll leave it at that. Okay, but you're young, and you guys should be having intercourse frequently, and that might be the answer for him. So if you want to give him my information, I can at least send him some info that he could take to his primary care. If he doesn't have a primary care, I can hook him up.

Okay. All right, that sounds good. All right. I imagine you just, I imagine, like, you have cabinets in the office there that are just full of pills. He's got Kevin's full of all kinds of shit. No, it's true. We have samples.

We have drug representatives that come through and leave us samples of medications and stuff that we can then give out to people. The problem with that is it tends to be branded stuff, and that's the most expensive. Nobody is sampling the generic stuff. But sometimes if we've got a generic analog, we can give people the branded stuff, or sometimes their insurance will pay for it. in hell would just, you know, but yes. So we do. We have a cabinet. It's the sample closet. It's actually not just a cabinet. It's a whole walk-in closet

full of pills. Wow. Nothing interesting, though. Now, the last interesting thing that they ever sampled us was intranasal stay-dall. So when intranasal stay-all came out, it was

not scheduled. It was not a scheduled drug. It was a pain reliever, but it wasn't scheduled. It was quote-unquote, non-addictual. Well, Stadol is a Mew receptor agonist antagonist, antagonist, so I'll explain what that is. Mew! Yeah, Mew.

It is a drug that is for cats. It would work for cats that will stimulate the opioid receptor in the brain and actually cause pain relief, analgesia, don't you know? And can also, if you're overdosed, Oh, Sonic can stop you from breathing and all those things.

But they would bring in cases of it and leave it around and people started stealing it. And then they finally had to schedule it because they realized it was addictive as any other mu-opoeoid receptor. But in the presence of, say, morphine or percocet, it'll actually cause precipitate withdrawal. So it's an interesting drug. Anyway. Wow. Yeah. So we do have that.

You want to talk about influenza vaccine? Did you ever get your flu vaccine? I mean, it's okay. I have very mixed feelings about it because I've listened to a lot of Instagram videos that say that it's, it's like kind of bad for you and that the government is trying to lower everybody's immune system because when like, you know. Oh, so they're doing it on purpose. Right. Like, let's say, for example, when you guys were in high school, there was no mandatory flu shot. And that over the, I guess the odds, that it's become required for more and more people to get the influenza vaccine.

Like at first it started out with just infants and the elderly and people that are immunocompromised, which I totally understand. But then over time, like every couple of years, it'd be like, all right, well, now it's healthy children should get it. Oh, now everybody should get it. Well, now pregnant women should get it. And there's been no, like, conclusive tests on the effects of pregnant women. getting the flu vaccine that I've seen. Okay. Let's do a PubMed search on the influenza.

No, no, no, no. Dr. Scott's going to look up on PubMed.gov. It's PubMed.gov now, which is the National Library of Science. It's a repository of all the peer-reviewed medical literature. And that's one I didn't look up was pregnancy. I've got some other stuff. I didn't look up pregnancy. You mean big flu?

I've also heard. that there is, big flu, that there are, um, he's on meds too. That there's like aluminum and there are chemicals in these flu vaccines that like over time can fuck with your brain and cause, like, dementia. Okay, so that's a great question. So the original concern about metals in vaccines was mercury. Now, I don't, let's see, is there, I don't think there's any mercury in influenza. a vaccine anymore if there ever was any.

They used it as a preservative. There was a thimerosol. And, okay, thimerosol, ethel-mercury-based preservative use in vials that contain more than one dose of vaccine to prevent germs, bacteria, or fungi from contaminating the vaccine. And then at one

time, it was, people had the concern that the thimerosol in these vaccines that were given these kids, because look, my kid was traumatized by his vaccine schedule. because I remember them holding him down and three nurses coming at him with needles from all sides

and just sticking them in his thigh. And he's still, you know, he has needle phobia to this day. That would do it. Wow. Yeah. And, but people were worried that they were getting this cumulative dose of thimerosol. And what postulated that that was one of the contributing factors for kids getting autism. And that has been pretty thoroughly debunked.

But a lot of vaccines now you can get that are thimerosol-free. Now I'm looking here, flu vaccines and multi-dose vials contain thimerosol to safeguard against contamination of the vial. Most single-dose vials and pre-filled syringes of flu shot and nasal spray flu vaccine do not contain any preservative because they're intended to be used once. So if your primary care is using single-dose vials, there's no. metals or preservatives in that whatsoever okay so that's good there are that they're not going to tell us like I feel like the government keeps so much from us well but it's the manufacturer okay the the also a great question the vaccines are sold by private companies and and they're in it to make money they sometimes yeah they're in it to make money

but they are under rules and regulations that require them to declare every single thing that goes in these things. And so all your drugs, even the binders, they have to declare what that is. Dr. Scott wasn't even under FDA regs when he came out with his herbal supplement called Stressless or fatigue reprieve, which you can get at simplyurbles.net. But you had to go through all kinds of bullshit. Everything. It wasn't bullshit, by the way. No, but I know what you mean.

But even not being a pharmaceutical-grade medication and technically just a supplement, we had to have them tested and all of the ingredients had to we had a full spectrum analysis and they have to have like a data safety sheet for these things in. And even like you said, down to the binders, they have. Yeah, if you're using clay or starch or whatever. If there's something in there that you didn't put in their list, they will bust your ass if they catch you. And it's like those guys that were making the Red East Rice. putting statin drugs in there.

Right. And then saying, oh, gosh, for a long everybody's cholesterol by using these supplements. Of course, Redley's rice has... On its own, it's a statin life. On its own has statin, you know, lova statin or whatever in it. Yeah, but some geniuses were doing it. Well, some of these cockpills, too, Chrissy, they'll... They've pulled them off the market, and the FDA will just yank some off the shelves.

And when they do a spectrum analysis or GC-Mass spec on them, they'll find that they've actually got Viagra. them. Right. So these guys are doping their herbal supplements with Viagra just so that people go, yeah, this stuff really does work. Where do we get those again? Those I can just send you samples

if you need some of those. Okay. I think it was funny that you kept saying yanking and culling when it came to all these boner pills. Well, yes, yanking them off of the... They're yanking them off and pulling them off. I'm sure there was...

That time of year for you, Steve. Yes, it is. The six months almost here, shit. Hey. All right. Honey, get ready. All right. What do you say to people who say, what is the point of getting a flu shot?

It's only like 30-something percent effective. Like, nobody knows for sure what stream is going to be the most popular. It's a crapshoot. So awesome because it's absolutely. All of these questions have some truth in them. And that one isn't even wrong. Sometimes it's as low as 6% effectiveness. So you have to understand how they make this thing.

So right now we're still chasing mutations of the influenza virus. So the influenza virus hits the Southern Hemisphere during our summer and then it comes up here during... You okay? Uh-oh. She's gone. Wow. I think her boss came in and just fired.

I think so. I saw... I hope not. Well, that's weird. Well, it's more fun talking to her than you guys. So I'm calling her back. Oh, there she is. There you are.

I'm back. Hello. My video was making noise. I was trying to research, and then my video went on. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, you went to a website and a commercial started running? Yes. Yeah, okay.

So where I was was the flu virus circles around the southern hemisphere during our summer and then kind of works its way up to the northern hemisphere. And so you've got researchers that go to the southern hemisphere and try to collect all these different flu strains and try to figure out, just knowing historically how it changes over time, they try to predict what flu strains we're going to have during our winter, during our flu season. And sometimes they're really successful.

It can be as high as 60% effectiveness. Now, we've got to define what effective means. When they say 60% effective, they're saying that you can reduce the number of people that would get it in a defined population of people by 6%. 60%. Now, but there's getting the influenza, well, who cares? You know, if you get the influenza, you're sick for a couple of days. Who gives a shit, really? What you really want to be interested in is, does it prevent hospitalizations and does it prevent death? Because influenza is a son of a bitch in 1918, which admittedly a long time ago before we had ventilators and flu treatments and flu vaccines. When you were born, Steve. Yeah, exactly. I barely remember this. But, um, Now, my dad was alive during this. He was two.

There was an influenza vaccine. It was a pandemic, meaning that it hit the whole world at once, and it affected only 10% of the population. So that means 90% of people didn't get it. But we still remember this one because it killed 10% of the people that got it. So you're talking 10% of 10% is 1%. This virus killed 1% of the Earth's population. How do you all track this stuff? Well, they...

Yeah. Epidemiology, that's pretty easy to do. Even back then, they were keeping records. This person has influenza because it's a defined syndrome. You know, they couldn't test for the virus back then, but they knew what it was. And, yeah, there were probably a few people that just had regular old, you know, pneumonia that got caught up in that. Or people that got influenza and then got post-influenza pneumonia, they're including all of those people into that number.

But still. So, yeah, and then you just collected it. How many did you have? How many did you have and you collect that data and then you can you may not even have to extrapolate it. But so 1%, so 1% of the world's population. So right now the world is, how

what's the population of the world right now? Let's ask Echo. Echo, what's the population of the world right now? 7 billion. That's what I was thinking. Well, she's worth us. ECHO. Echo, is the light going on?

This is very professional. Did you say, like, I'm going to West? Echo, what's the population of the world? Echo, do I look pretty today? The World Population Today is approximately 7.61 billion. Okay, so 7.61 billion. So what's 1% of that? Echo, what's 1% of 7.61 billion?

So really, when someone says you're 1 in a million, That's not even a compliment. Damn. So 76 million. Sorry, Chrissy. Echo was telling us 76.1 million people would die if 1% of the world's population were killed. So, yeah, 7 billion people didn't die. What do you think with medical technology today, that would be a little different?

You think it would be less, yes. Yeah, you do. And Cody Gilmer's here, by the way. I snuck in here. Yeah, he snuck in. Chrissy, you don't know him, but he's a guitarist for the band Indy. goes to who you will know. Howdy, howdy.

He's a rock star and he is, his band is the most dynamic live band I've ever seen. And so we're lucky enough to have them in the area and he's just kind of glommed onto our show because I pay him a couple of months ago. That's not the only reason. Come on now. Has he heard his intro yet? No. Wait a minute.

Oh, well, hang on, Cody. I was kind of excited when I came in. I thought it was going to happen. You don't love this. Well, because Cody, every time he came in, And, you know, it was like, well, what's wrong with you this week? And he would be like, well, this week, like he was actually doing a bit. And it's still going.

Oh, damn it, I can't find it. It's very professional. This is our Thanksgiving show, so it really doesn't matter if we just fuck off. People, they're loaded up on turkey and tequila. They're listening to this after they're digesting. They're passed out from turkey. Right. Well, that's a trip to fam.

I like, oh, here it is. Here it is. I think this is because we love him so much With a deviated septal hearts Had my first hymn-or Before I could fart I fucking love it Had every ailment

From herpes to VD And my prostate exam Made me have to pee Cody Cody Gilmore The king of the hypo There you go. Oh, that's...

You guys are too sweet. I don't know if you can hear that in. Who wrote that one? Scott actually wrote that. You're quite delirious. I didn't think of cancer. Played bass and played organ. Oregon is.

I dig it. So, that's our... He's our resident hypochondriac. He's still there? Was he getting flu shots or no? Yeah, did you get... Hell no. Yeah, there's formaldehyde in them.

There's a little... I don't know about all that. I just never had time. never gotten it and I still don't today we had a listener we're a real man we oh thank you oh a love connection has been made we had a listener shots fired and he was he was the same way that you are and it's like beds is BS it's only young people and old people and I'm neither one of those things and he didn't get it his whole family on the way moved after they left here he they were moving to um uh Oregon or Vegas was a Vegas I thought they were moving to the

Pacific Northwest. But anyway, on the way there, they all got influenza, and he almost died. He was on the ventilator for a couple of days. And he is, whenever I have somebody that tells me, oh, influenza vaccine, stupid, you know, I just say, well, okay, talk to this guy, and I tag him, and then he jumps in.

And, you know, I don't have to say anything else. I almost died. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very anecdotal, no question. You started to curb my appetite on it. But fortunately, I just. never have time to even think about an influence of it. I'll give it to you here, dude. Ooh.

Yeah, we'll do it as a bit on the show just to, you know, it'd be a stupid bit, but I'll do it just to get you to do it. There, look, there's no, so I'm going to anticipate your next question, Chrissy, is that, you know, people die from getting the vaccine, right? Yep. Yep. Okay, so that's also true. No vaccine is perfectly safe.

there will, there can be adverse effects and sometimes catastrophic adverse effects. The main one that we see with influenza vaccine is a thing called Guillain-Barray syndrome. And it's also called ascending neuritis. And Scott, I need you to look up the incidence of Guillain-Barray syndrome. Okay. That sounds terrible. So what it is is it's the nerves starting in the motor nerves, starting in the legs, start shutting down. and they ascend and it can get up to the knee and then go back down so you just got a droopy foot

or it can get up to the hip and you can't walk and then it goes back down or it can go all the way up to the respiratory muscles and then you're on a damn ventilator and some of those people will not make it now but at least you don't have the flu right but at least you don't have the flu give yourself a bill now there there is this risk of that There's also a risk, though, of Guillain-Barre syndrome from getting the influenza. I first heard about Guillain-Barray, not because of the flu vaccine, but because people were getting swine flu back in the 70s, and then they were getting Guillain-Ber-A afterwards. So there's a particular strain of influenza that is at risk, that puts you at a higher risk. So you can get it from the flu, too.

So it's the immune system's reaction to the influenza proteins that causes this to happen. There's also Gian Bray Ramsey, which was a child beauty queen who was killed at the age of six. Oh, my God. We all heard of her right. Oh, really? Yeah, Bray Ramsey. That's beautiful. Gianbury Ramsey.

Beautiful girl. Yeah. Yes, she was very much so. I don't think she got the flu shot. She didn't get the flu shot. So, yeah, so that's, there's a risk of that. So what's the incidence of Guianne Barre, Dr. Scott? It says each year between 3,000 and 6,000 people might develop Guillain Barre.

3,000. Okay, so what's the incidence of death from influenza in unvaccinated people? You didn't ask me to look that up. Okay, okay, well, I can tell you. I can tell you what it is. Yeah, okay, go ahead. Okay, 109,000 influenza associated hospitalizations, 8,000 influenza associated deaths were prevented by the vaccine, so wait a minute. Okay, between 291,000 and 646,000 people worldwide die from seasonal influenza respiratory illness.

So we're talking about a huge risk benefit difference. So if 3,000 people get it, so what's your odds if, say, 150 million people get vaccinated? Let's ask Echo. Echo, what's 150 million divided by 3,000? I feel like you've bugged, Echo. 150 million divided by 3,000 is 50,000. So your odds are 50,000 to one. What if I just lived in a bubble?

You can do that. Right, but let's say you've got a lot of other problems. You can't have a flu. You can't really achieve that person's death. to the flu directly because there's a lot of other factors there. And it's like, I feel like people just use that statistic to be in favor. Well, you've got to get the flu shot or else see all these people who died. It's like, yeah, and you can separate that out to, you know, how many of those people had emphysema, for example.

It's bad. If you've got emphysema and you get influenza, you're much more likely to have respiratory failure from that because you already have partial respiratory failure. failure right that's the whole thing so number one don't smoke if you're not going to get your flu shot by god don't smoke but if you are if you do have emphysema all the more reason to get your influenza vaccine because it may even if it doesn't prevent you from getting the illness it may prevent you from being hospitalized for it so in other words if you get it you'll still have a more mild illness i was so i'm 64 now i got it when I was, I think, 58.

And I had had my flu shot that year. And not only that, I had been exposed to my kids, got the flu mist, which is a live virus. And that gets spread all over the community, and it's actually a vaccine. That is kind of a conspiracy. You give it to these kids, and then they turn around and give it to everybody. Because it's an actual... Stam kids. It's a live virus, for real.

And so I got that. So I got a double dose of influenza vaccine and I still got it. But I was sick for a day. They made me stay out of work for seven days. So I had six-day vacation. Do you complain for more than a day, though? I remember that day. Well, maybe I was sick for two days.

It wasn't, you know, it wasn't very long. No, no, no. I woke up with 105 temperature, though. And I'm like, oh, fuck, I am going to die. Is there any way that because you got two of that that caused it? That's what actually cost it? I don't know. No, I don't think so.

I don't think so. That would fall into Christ. thing that were there, you know, that they reduced my immune system. Yeah. Yeah. Big flu. Yeah, big flu. When you got to remember, too, there's so many different variations of that flu, too. You know, you might have just picked up one that you had not been vaccinated for, you know.

Yeah, but I will tell you this. Oh, no, of course. Yeah. I'm just very distracted because Chrissy is brating her here. It's very attractive. Oh, yeah. Hey, so the CDC says, and this is a recent article from the CDC, there, you have greater odds of getting Guillain-Barray following having the flu, then you do if you get a vaccine.

There you go. Okay. And this goes back to the swine flu thing you were talking about earlier. Sure. You know, the interesting thing, this is totally off topic, but it impacts me because I was in that group, people who were old enough to have been exposed to swine flu during Jimmy Carter's presidency were actually immune or had protection against that last swine flu epidemic that went through. so it was weird usually the older folks are more at risk but the older you were actually the more likely you were to be protected and it was more as usual infants and the you know millennials that were at highest risk of getting the swine flu so there are some benefits of being an old fuck I don't that's one of them not very many but anyway any other issues regarding influenza vaccine I know I haven't convinced you of anything but that's okay it's good to have this conversation though yeah

Here we go. So they studied 3,100 patients and among hospitalized influenza positive. So these were people that came in with influenza that were hospitalized because of it. And if they had been vaccinated, though, they still got it and they still got admitted, but they had a 60% reduction in the odds of ending up in the ICU. Those are people that are getting the tube put down their throat and put on. on life support. If you have influenza, that's really the only way you're going to end up in the ICU

is if you're sick as F, and they have to intubate you, you know, breathe for you on a ventilator. So that to me, and they had, if they did end up in the ICU, they had a shorter ICU length of stay. So still, even though you get it and you've been vaccinated and you got it anyway, you're going to have milder illness more likely than not. So I just don't. I don't want you to end up in the hospital.

I like you. Well, I have great genes, so I'm fine. Thanks. I had to get a flu shot last year because my sister-in-law made it mandatory because I had like a little baby niece, and I didn't, you know, she just asked me to get it. I was like, all right, fine, I'll get it. Okay, good for you. I'm going to give you a little round of applause for that.

So now that you've kind of broken the ice, but you didn't get one this year. Well, that's fine. You know, I'm not here to tell you what to do. I don't know. I just feel like it doesn't, it's not worth it. I'm really worried about, like, accumulating aluminum, like, unnecessarily. I'm, okay, so let's do that one because, so do you use deodorant? Nope.

I use, uh, hitby, deodorant. Oh, you do? Oh, oh. Yeah. Oh, hey, I, I've sampled a lot of different brands, okay? I found one that actually... Okay, tell us, because we've had this question. I think it's called La Vanilla.

Yeah, La Vanilla. L-A-S-L-A-E-B... It's vanilla smelling stuff. It just smells like vanilla-flavored B-O. I don't wear deodoring at all. I'm not going to shower every day, and you're not going to smell. I mean, for me, it works, but, you know. Yeah.

I'm not eating, like, a ton of meat anyway, so my sweat isn't, like, nasty. And we So there's a bacterium that lives on the skin called microcaucous Ludius and that was I talked about Oh I think I dated that guy My old microcacus I did a thing on Howard Stern show about it

When they did I helped them sample all the Staffers to see who had disgusting bacteria And I don't know if you know Richard Christie But just for people who didn't hear it Richard had more fecal bacteria on his hands than he did on his ass crack, which was kind of a funny result.

How do you manage that one? Well, when you do these samples, they're not perfect. You can't see where everything is, so they may have just not, they might have hit a particularly clean part of his ass crack or a particularly hard, you know, it just, and there's a little bit of luck involved in, sorry. And washing your hands. In, you know, when you sample these things. can I have a sip of that

yeah I get you get you a pool swallow you guys talk I have actually have a weird question about that talking about B-O and showering and things of that nature I honestly I don't wear deodorant and listen we're well aware oh really

no for real yeah for real yeah oh yeah yeah you stink people never tell me that I wish more people would maybe I would get around they're not your friends I'm your real friend you're my real friend I'm around enough assholes I feel like someone would tell me of anywho

I will say today is a little exceptional running over here but I found the less I shower the less I stink wow you're definitely not Indian oh geez oh god no no no no everybody

no it's it's I don't know if there's any relevancy that's that's why I'm asking but the more I if I shower and I'm not talking about not showering at all obviously you have to shower but I'm saying like if I shower like every day yeah i tend to sweat and stink more that's interesting because your body is developing a protective layer of that's how i feel about it of oil she's right yeah that's what i'm that's how i feel

about it she's actually right i think you may be right on that and plus you know what it also does is it protects you from bacteria um getting into your skin and getting you sick so you're actually you're actually kind of getting a protective layer it's like a force system it's a force field there's no question that we are overly clean. Yes. And we live with certain colonies of bacteria and when we wash them off every day, they're like, oh, fuck, we've got to start all over again. So there is something to that.

Yeah, and your skin being your largest organ and a protective mechanism, it keeps a lot of that bacteria, if you don't keep washing out those protective oils, then it, then you've taken part of your body's defense system, those protective oils. So maybe your armpits are so matted from the oils. There's no oil. They're mad at you. There you go. Or he doesn't have a big colony of micrococcus.

He doesn't have a lot. He's got a macrococcus. You have to have them. But a great personality. Right. Makes his own clothes. You have to have. It has a nice car.

Have those right colonies of bacteria to break down those oils to create the smell. So I know you're perfectly clean and have no gross bacteria on you. So that may be part of it. There's another one called Loomy that we're. works really well from what I hear. Now, none of these are anti-perspirants, though. And my problem is I don't want to walk around, and you may not sweat a lot. But, you know, I, of course, I wear black scrubs now at work, but before when I would

wear my regular Brooks Brothers shirts, you know, if I put my arms above my head and you got a big pit stain, it's just disgusting. I'm that way. Right. Always have it. Are you? I used to be made fun of for that actually growing up. They called you pit-stained.

Ooh, it was bad. Here comes pitch. The good news is, now I wear all black shirts, so never a problem. Right. Okay. Well, so I've had patients that come to me saying, you know, people at work are complaining I smell bad. And they'll put cologne on. And it's like all you're doing is making B.O. flavored cologne.

And so, you know, really an antiperspirant is the key to preventing that. But the problem with that is. I've known it worse. The problem with anti-perspirances, as Chrissy brought up, is that, you know, they're laden with aluminum, and there is some question whether there's some, any absorption of that. I've not seen any compelling data that says using aluminum deodorants causes dementia or anything like that. Really? Putting it on your skin every day, your largest organ, that's going to have sterile absorption. I'm with you. I see. But the only thing I can go by is the data. And also, even if the data showed that there was a 1% increase in risk in dementia, I would still use it because I don't.

don't want to stink and I hate that feeling of sweat under my pits. It's just disgusting to me. But that's because I become accustomed to not having that feeling. If any purse print never, honestly, it made it worse. The only thing that makes me actually like, and I'm sorry that I smell today, but the thing that they get... You don't smell it. I don't smell it. Oh, got you.

Anywho, it mostly is stress and sex. Those are the two things. Like, if I fuck, I like me... I said stress and insect. No, I said in sex. I thought you said incest.

Thank God, no, I did not say that. But like I said, I don't know if there's any relevancy to that. But if I'm not stressed out, which I have been very stressed out today, usually it's... Yeah, we are from Tennessee, so I understand why you assume that he said incest. You sure got a party male. You know, it's stress me out, back to my sister. But I've found, like, as long as those two elements aren't involved, like, for... I don't really need to shower all the time, and I don't really need to...

wear deodor and it's not it's not bothering people to the point. Yeah, just keep to yourself. Yeah. Yeah, we haven't had to kick you out of the studio or anything. I am still here. Hey, Chrissy, we're actually running out of time. We need to get your plugs in. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, just please follow me on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, at Chrissy Mayer, C-H-R-S-S-I-E-M-A-R. Check out my show of the WebSpot on Compound Media. It's every Monday night at 8 o'clock and, you know, we'll put up clips on social media and you know sometimes

we'll put a whole episode up on YouTube also we're doing a live show comedians of the compound at the White Plains Comedy Club December 13th come to that and I'm also doing a live version of the Wet Spot podcast from the stand on Wednesday I think that's December 18th

and tickets are available for that now and I'm going to announce the lineup pretty soon are they going to live stream that or anything I'd like to see that you know I might just put it on my Patreon or I might just tape it and then put it on compound media later, like if I'm on vacation

or something, but... Oh, you have Patreon? I'm in. Oh, yeah. What is it? Patreon.com slash what? If you're interested, patreon.com slash Chrissy Mayer for dirty semi-nudes of me on vacation. Oh, shit. Really? Get the hell out of here. Oh, yeah. There's different tiers

and everything. Oh, okay. I'm going for the mega tier, whatever it is. Yeah, something for the six-month celebration. Exactly. Thank you. Well, we appreciate. Chrissy being here, yeah, her call just dropped. So, Cody, you got anything for us, being the resident hypochondriac? You got anything today? Oh, I didn't.

I got a cat with one eye now. It doesn't have to do it with me, but I'm ready to take him to the vet. Yeah, I had a cat that lost its eye. He seems pretty chill. We found him on the top of Roan Mountain. Really? Cool. Crazy enough.

Yeah, he ran across the road, and this is away from the houses at the bottom of the mountain. And I was like, he shouldn't be up here. And as we're trying to find this cat, I swear there is a bobcat or something way bigger stalking him. But we loaded him up and he came home. You don't think it was the bobcat's kid, do you? He might be. God, I wonder if you had that little bobcat. No, no, no, no.

He's definitely a house cat. You know that shit's happened before. You know what that. Black and white short hair house cat. But he is the sweetest little guy. I don't think he's completely wild. I honestly think someone dropped him off, which is very sad. Up there?

Or do you think he just climbed it? Maybe. Maybe he's from down. I don't know. But if anyone up on Road Mountain is missing a one-eyed black house cat... Tough shit. Close enough. He shouldn't be up there in the first place.

Have you named him yet? Mr. Pickles. Oh, cool. Mr. Pickles. Have you not seen that show? No, who's Mr. Pickles? I don't know where that is. Well, Mr. Pickles is...

I mean, he's this like... What's the way to describe it? It's an adult swim show. Just look at us. Okay. It's about a dog, though, but the colors are the same. Runners up named wise were Odin and what was the other one? I don't know.

We almost called him Beezelbub, but bubs for short. Oh, yeah. Well, and that would go fit with the theme of your most recent album, Satan's Texas vacation. Vacation, exactly. According to Steve has nothing to do with Satan. Or Texas or a vacation, but... He didn't read the lyrics sheet. I guess I didn't.

Well, subtle cues. So, yeah, check out their album on Spotify. Can you buy it anywhere? Really, you guys are more of a live band, but... See, that's another reason I want to get into coding and also create a website because we should have a better merch present. But, I mean, you can buy our stuff.

Just hit us up. On Facebook? Yeah. Hit us up through Facebook. We have people order stuff. No, through Band Camp. I'm so sorry. We do have a Band Camp with a Merge store.

Oh, you do? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. Well, I need to tweet that out so people can get to it. Hit us up on Band Camp. Just look, I guess just search Indie Ghost Band Camp. Right?

I'll find out. I don't know. Jesus, you are... He's worse than me. Not a good marketer. No, I'm not. I'm too damn busy. Hopefully he'll be a better coder than a marketer.

We're going to find out. All right, well, it's Thanksgiving, so we're going to get out of here with a Thanksgiving-themed song, right? Dr. Scott, tell us what today's Thanksgiving-themed song is. This is, I know you're writer by the Grateful Dead So for all of us traveling through the... There you go. The roads for Thanksgiving. This is it. Hope everybody has a great holiday weekend.

Yeah, and don't forget, check your stupid nuts for lumps, quit smoking, get off your asses, and we'll see you in one week for the next edition of Week. Weird Medicine. Gonna miss you, baby, from rolling in your arm. Let Al Mast I, Lord, I could not take my wrist. Let him last night, Lord, I could not take my wrist. My mind was wandering like the wild-kies in the west. The sun will shine on my back door someday.

The sun will shine on my back door Sunday. wings will blow blow all my troughs away. I wish I was a headband on a northbound train. I wish I was a head man on a northbound train. I'd shine my life to Oh, comor, Raleigh. I know you're right going to miss me when I'm going. I know you're going to miss me when I'm going. I know you're right going to miss me when I'm going. I'm going to miss you, baby, I'm rowing it's gone.

Cody? last one I know you're right gonna miss me when I'm gone I know you're right going to miss me when I'm gone

gonna miss your baby from rolling in your own Oh. Thank you.