Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 391 - Balzac Taste Buds

Episode Date: January 31, 2020

Dr Steve, Cliff Andrews, Dr Scott and Lady Diagnosis devise a method to test the hypothesis that scrotal tissue has "taste buds." Also corona, influenza updates and a new Dave Cecil song, "Runnin' That Shine." PLEASE VISIT: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) Feals.com/fluid (lab grade CBD products!) TRIPP.COM offer code DRSTEVE (relax and get 20% off!) simplyherbals.net (While it lasts!) noom.doctorsteve.com (lose weight, gain you-know-what) tweakedaudio.com offer code “FLUID” (best CS anywhere) premium.doctorsteve.com (all this can be yours!) freshly.doctorsteve.com (how lazy are you? Get $40 off, and don’t cook!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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on the radio. Okay, very good, Ronnie B. I will not, you know, try to do that. All right, what do we got? Hi, Dr. Steve. There's a viral trend going around on the app called TikTok where

guys are recording their facial reaction to don't their balls into lemonade. And I did a quick Google on it, and it says that testicles actually have taste buds. Bullshit. Oh, my God. It's kind of low-key. I'd like to try this, but I would love to hear your opinion on it.

Thank you so much. Love it job. Yeah, because I can't tell what that is yet. Okay. So do this. We'll have lady diagnosis do this. I don't have balls. Okay, damn it.

So here's how you test if this is complete horseshit. Because first off, there's no taste buds. Now, there might be an abyss. of the scrotum, which is very thin skin, to absorb some stuff when it gets in the bloodstream that conceivably you could taste it later as it gets up into your mouth. Like, you know, if you ever had an IV where they do

like contrast. You know, like an IV contrast for C2. And then you can all of a sudden you can taste it. Oh, fuck, yeah, you can taste in your mouth. It tastes like iodine or something. Well, anyway. So you can, that could be possible. But the nuts themselves do not have taste buds.

If they did, I'd have a horrible taste in my mouth all the time because nuts are disgusting. Well, and they're close to your ass. It'd taste like shit all the time. Yeah, you just have the shit taste. So you know that's bullshit. But if you want to prove it to yourself, here's how you do it. I might explain it. Remember that when.

What explains is the. Yes. Okay. Really appreciate that. Yes. Well, here's how you do it. Going forward. Go ahead. Was it sweet lemonade or unsweet?

I don't know. Was it ice cold? Because if it was acid, you might be able to feel the different. You know, acidic stuff. But it's all sleep, and there's no way. But here's how you test it. You do a blind test, and it's got to be blinded on both sides. So we're going to do a double blind test.

It can be a little harder to do. But it's possible. And what you would have to have is, like, opaque bags that have plastic bags where nobody can see. You put in one person, puts soy sauce in one, one puts lemonade in the other, and one puts water. Okay, so you've got three bags, water, soy sauce, and lemonade. And then they mix them up and they hand them to another person who doesn't know which one is which. But you've written one, two, and three, or A, B, and C or whatever, some code on there. And then the third person takes that, and the first person can't have contact with either one of them after that.

So they can't bias this thing. Then the third person takes it and then, you know, mushes it. They've got to be blindfolded, and they mush the fluid onto their balls. Can, yes, this is soy sauce. This is lemonade. Now, they've got a... One in three chance anyway. One and three chance of getting right on one of them.

And then once they get right on that one, it's one and two chance of being right on the second one. So you can work out the statistics. So there's, you know, a finite chance that just by luck they can get it right the first time. One you gets the same thing three times where you're going to hit for sure one of them. Oh, wait, no, I think that's... Well, if they get the soy sauce. Well, if they get the first two, then the third one, they have to get right, right? Correct.

So. Do you tell them as they go? No, no, no. That's what I was going to ask you to. That was a good question. So you mark down. Okay. So you don't know that you get it if you get it right or not.

No, no, no. You can't know that. So trial number one, you write those things down. Well, unless you really taste it, then you know. Right? Yeah, okay. If you really are tasting. So I say I taste something.

be lying. So we need them to prove it. So now that's the first one. Now you've got to do this a bunch of times so that you've got a statistically accurate sample because if they get it right every single time, well now that's

they're beating the odds. So we have to figure out what the odds are. And I should have done this before the show. It's exactly. I wonder if Alexa can help. I bet she can't. Let's see. Let's put in here. What are the odds?

So let's use the A word. What are the odds of guessing three objects correctly? Let's see, because sometimes there's like poker odds and stuff like that up there. Okay, if there were just one question, the probability

of guessing correctly would be one in three. That's right. Since all the answers are independent, the answer to one question is no bearing on the answer to the others. And this is the case with each question, so the chances of guessing all answers correctly are one. and 27 but that's not that's guessing multiple choice answers we're trying to guess three things so the odds first one's 33 percent the odds the second one's 50 so it'd probably be you know half of 33

percent so it'd be about 16 percent of the time they'll get all three right I'm just and I'm sorry were they told what the three things were yeah they can be yeah they can be told what they are okay they just don't know which one is what's a good that's sexy been good I did too yeah yeah that That takes the guessing out completely. Well, that would be another test. Can they tell what things are if they're not told? That's a good... But that's hard to do.

If you blindfold someone and you put mashed potatoes in their mouth or mashed carrots, they sometimes can't tell. Uh-oh. That's true. So we're in trouble now. Oh, no. I hate being in trouble. So anyway, so let's say it's 16%. Right.

So now, if they get it more often than 16%. and it's statistically significant that they've gotten it more often than. Because, you know, if you only do five trials, there's going to be some odds. It'll be slightly more than 16% or less. Then you can say something. Well, there's something here. Now, what is it? Is it taste buds in the testicles, or are they absorbing this, and then they're tasting it in the mouth?

Yep. All right. Anyway. All right. Very good. Got it. So we got Cliff coming into the studio. Don't forget to check out Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net.

That's simplyherbales.net. And do you have the nasal spray back? I'm getting emails complaining that there's no nasal spray on the website yet. No. You're out? We're out of it again. Holy hell. What the hell, dude?

I don't know. It's just not as easy as it seems. Stop bullshitting. What did she say? Can you please stop bullshitting? I mean, seriously, dude, what's going on with... This is the time we need you. I'm getting ready to shut down and all of it.

Are you really? I'm shutting. I'm quitting everything. Are you for real? Are you just frustrated with it? Are you being serious because you're giving me that look like maybe you're not serious that you're funny? No, I'm stopping everything. Why? Yeah, I just want to.

Talk to us a little bit about... I'm tired, that's why. About getting into this kind of business. I mean, you invested a lot of months. in your own label. Because, you know, we have friends, you know, Chetai and Richard David Smith have their own private label of energy drink called Hyperphysics, Hyper F-I-Z-Z-I-C-S. And it's actually an awesome energy drink. It allowed me to drive 10 hours straight to Florida when the hurricane canceled our...

Our Disney flight, and I said, my God, we're going. So we got in the car, and I took two cans of hyperphysics with me, one here and one in Columbia, South Carolina, made it all the way without it stopping. So it's good stuff. But it's a tough slog trying to get something going. So tell us about it. No, I'm just about over all of the effort, to be honest with you. It just takes so much effort and so much money and so much time.

So you had three main products, right? Yeah, three main products. And we're sold out of one. The other two are getting a little bit low on. I'm just getting ready to sit down the website and everything. Oh, hell. So I can quit. Well, one of the reasons I don't ever pay you for coming here is because you were trading, you know, plugs for being on the show.

Now what the hell? I've got to start paying you. No. No, I come anywhere. I mean, you can't come for free. Well, I can't. I can't say simply her balls anymore. So really, I had no idea you were that despondent about this.

Yeah, I'm just over it. So you are privately labeling. So talk a little bit. I'm trying to engage you to talk about. So you came up with these formulas. That's right. These were your own proprietary formulas for stress less, which was sort of an herbal valium, I guess. Yep, yep.

And then fatigue reprieve, which was herbal. speed it's my Elvis my Elvis concoction yeah and then you had this nasal spray that is unlike any I've ever seen yes you could probably sell those well you know you so you can't and they're proprietary blends so I have I have the I have the right solemn but you know Dr. Steve it's just getting it getting it produced hand labeled and insured and you know the biggest thing is insurance insurance such a so expensive because people are going to sue your practice, yeah. Just keeping it from leaching in our other business.

You come up, so how did you come up with the formula, let's just say, for fatigue, right, because it's like pulling fucking teeth. No, no, it's getting you to tell the story. He's tired, he said. I know, I know. I really, I think it's an interesting story, though. So you come up with this formula. Right, so it's based on an old Chinese formula called Chihu Jalong-Muli 1.

And what that is, it's just, it's for Chi-Hu-Dong-Wi-Wong. Chihu-Jong, my Willie Wong, yes. But it's a, so I took that and I broke it down and I added a couple other ingredients to make it a little bit easier to use and easier to manufacture. And I chose the number one herbal medicine company in the world manufacturing company. It's a pharmaceutical company out of Taiwan, which is called Kaiser Pharmaceutical. How do you get a hold of them? You just through your connections through your medical school. That's right.

That's right. Through the connection to our medical school, we used the Kaiser Pharmaceutical brands at our school. So I just reached out to them and said how much, you know, what's the least amount of something I could make a proprietary blend, and they told me how much it was, and it was a pretty significant amount of those RBS. Well, you want to talk numbers? I mean, in ballpark, how much did it cost you to get? It's about $40,000 per per, per. Yeah, per.

And you had two of them. them so you're talking 80 grand and that's just to get them made oh lord did you make any money off of it um we're pretty close pretty close yeah we haven't made very much yeah pretty pretty flush yet but um it was a lot of fucking money but but that that's just to get it manufactured and and made through customs in united states and that comes so it's coming in bulk and bulk pill so you've got to get it into bottles yeah that's when that's when the fun began so how do you do that how do you do that And you have to find a manufacturer in the United States that's FDA-approved, just like, because Kaiser's FDA-approved pharmaceutical company. And it's really incredible the amount of, for any kind of legitimate medicine, supplement, supplement, whatever, the tracking on all these things is significant.

As far as having safety data sheets. It's like evidence. It's evidence, exactly what it is. So you have to have somebody sign off so that there's never a moment. The stuff is leaving the chain of possession. It comes into the pharmaceutical company. They receive it. The packaging company actually receives it and they quarantine it.

They quarantine and test it. And then once they agree to package it, then they package it. And then it's another shipping. How long does that process, everything you just said, how long does that take? Took about a year. So you got 80 grand in and it's sitting there for a year. Your money is not doing anything for you. Zero.

And then you start spending money on advertising and travel and Pichigan. Yeah, I remember you were doing all that. Because, you know, we went to those, we went to some trade shows and things for a while. So, yeah, it was a lot of fun. And I'm just, it's tired. So something as simple as running out, it's not as easy as, oh, I'll just buy another case. Because that case could be like, you know, $40,000 or something. Yeah.

Yeah, so the thing is you, that's exactly right. The mind, the least amounts you could re-up for would be $40,000. So you needed to make, you needed to make 80 or $106. to be able to then turn around and go, yeah, I'm going to throw another 40 after that. Yeah, 160 because... If you're barely breaking even, there's no... Yeah, what people don't understand, too,

is just something as simple as the bottles. Manufacture the bottles, manufacturing the labels, you have to pay for the labels, the pressing of these levels. You have your own. And they're going to do it in a special place, too, right? You can't just go to a UPS store and say, print me up a bunch of labels.

I had a friend that was in a printing business, and they quarantined. that part of his business when he was doing the like the he was printing the package inserts. Yep. It was like a big deal. Yeah, it was a big deal.

And then, you know, you start talking about the, you know, the, the, the, the labels and the dates and all of these things, you know, because FDA requires you to put expiration dates on there. And even though we all know that most things are a good way beyond their expiration dates, you know, if you put on the wrong dates and, you know,

it's like, shit, man. I think ours, I think our labels are done at the end of this year, so I'm just back. So when you do your next run, now you've got, you have to throw all those labels away. Oh my God. Wow. It's horrible. And it would be okay. You know, the thing

is I had the with the simple herbal thing, the reason it didn't truly take off is just because I didn't have enough money to do the marketing. You're undercapitalized for marketing. Yeah, yeah, because I actually talked to the guys at the Hudson News Group.

You know, Hudson News is huge. In airports and stuff. Exactly. And I talked to the vice president of Hudson News as far as their sales locations. And he just said, he goes, you know, we love the product. Problem is you don't have any history. Yeah. You know, and to displace.

It's a catch-22. Yeah, to displace, you know, an M&M or a, you know, or a Coca-Cola or something like that there by the cash register because it's a point of sale purchase. Yeah. And it takes a lot of, a lot of juice. I'm sure they were afraid that if they committed. and then you couldn't keep up with the supply and all that shit too. And then they're like, you know, what happens? You know, if all of a sudden we sell out, then how quickly can you get us another batch?

And I'm like, well, how quickly can't you? Three months. Yeah, three months. Man, three months from when I put. So you have to keep throwing money after it. Yep. To anticipate that. Yeah.

And then if it doesn't take off, you're sitting on, oh, God, that's awful. It was, it was, it was. This is a game for millionaires. It is. Not for you and me. No, not for some dumb ass, he'll billy like that. So you really are giving it up? Yep.

Even the nasal spray. Naisal sprays and all. All right. Should I just take this off of the prep sheet then? Simplyherbles.net, or do you need help getting rid of what you got left? Yeah, I'd like to at least through the next six months. Well, everybody helped bowl poor Dr. Scott out. Go to simplyherbalts.

So you think you got six months left then? Well, I have about nine, ten months left on the labels. I got you. Yeah, and I have enough to get us through then. do you think there's anything that could change your mind yes so oh could somebody buy you out so are you looking at that okay no i mean i would love i would no no no i would love to i haven't looked at it at as far as recruiting someone or or actively pursuing um someone to buy so but i would you know i would i would love for someone just well we're putting it out there business for sale

that's right we'll hey listen i'll be more unhappy to negotiate i have lots of formulas you know and i had I had the, those guys were also interested in a couple of my other formers than Dr. Steve knows. He's tried the one version of it, which is that sinus formula, which is what we take for sinus inflammation. Yeah. In fact, it's one, allergies is wonderful. Yeah. Well, speaking of sinus, got an article. Now, this is from January 24th.

This is actually six days ago for us. So it'll be almost 10 days from when people hear this. Let me see what you can find. You can find on influenza, where we are, you might just look influenza CDC. But, you know, influenza declined the first two weeks of the year, but then activity jumped in the week, ending of January 18th. And this was what you're looking for is flu view. It's all one word CDC. And anybody out there can do the same thing.

Just look for flu view CDC. Anyway, CDC estimates flu has caused 15. million illnesses, 140,000 hospitalizations, and 8,200 deaths this season. Oh, my. That's, holy mother. And that's not the Corona virus. No, that's not Corona. We're talking about flu.

Flu. Wow. You know, more than half of the positive flu test confirmed in public health laboratories occurred in Americans under age 25. So this strain that's coming through may be something that people my age have been exposed to. This happened once before when the swine flu. came through. There was a swine flu epidemic. If I remember correctly in the 70s, so unlike

normal years where you've got the elderly that are at risk, we were all like, hey, we're fine, you know, because we had been exposed to this virus before. And it was all young people. So only 12% involved adults, age 65 and older. The trend has led to high levels of outpatient cases and lower levels of flu-related hospitalization. So we're actually having a low hospitalization. year with 140,000 hospitalization. That's nuts. So this flu is no BS. No.

Ask Richard David Smith, the owner of hyperphysics. When people start coming at me with this, well, flu's no big deal. I'm not getting a flu shot. You can get, I send them after him because he survived, but just barely. You know, he ended up on the vent with influenza. year and he's been he's really good because I just say you know I tag him hey what what sayeth thou RDS whatever his Twitter handle is and he'll weigh in because you know he said the same thing until that year and now he's been quite the proponent of influenza vaccine

ever since then and we've had people die that we're listening people that called into this show but everyone that's gotten their flu virus shot has still gotten the flu? No, not necessarily. And what the flu vaccine does is it decreases the incidence. It's not 100%. When we have the universal flu vaccine, we'll start approaching those numbers. But it may be anywhere as low as 6% or as high as 60%, but it rarely gets above that. And that'd be the other thing to look up, Scott, is flu vaccine efficacy 2019, 2020 year. Because just talking to people I've talked to who have not had the flu, I've asked them, have you had the flu shot? And every one of them has said no, the ones who've not had the flu yet.

Does I say that again? The people that I talk to, I say, have you had the flu yet? And they say no. I said, did you get the flu vaccine? And they say no. So from what do you, what conclusion do you draw from that? Because this is a very interesting conversation. Well, I don't.

But I'm just saying it's odd that a lot of people who've gotten the flu vaccine have also had the flu. Okay. But everyone I've talked to who's not had the flu yet has also not had the vaccine. So this is called selection bias. But it's just people I've talked to. There's 350 million people in this country. Right.

15 million have gotten it. So let's find out what the percentage is. Echo, what's 15 divided by 350? 15 divided by 350, 0.0429. So that's 0.4%. Is that right? Okay. Echo, what's the percentage of 15 divided by 350?

I didn't ask that right. 15 is 4.286% of 350. Okay, so it's 4%. So that means 96% haven't gotten it, right? So 96% of the people that you talk to will not have had influenza. And of that bunch, there's been probably a lot of them have not had their influenza vaccine. So there's some, what you have to do is look at the aggregate numbers. So the question is, of these 140,000 hospitalizations, how many of those

had their influenza vaccine versus didn't compared to people who never got it? Okay. And the other way you can look at it is, of all the people that were vaccinated, what is the percentage of those that ended up in the hospital compared to people who ended up in the hospital that were not vaccinated. Correct. So what the vaccine does, and did you find out any answer, Scott? Well, yes, kind of. He's so laid back. He's just 10 feet away from the microphone.

Well, hell, I'm trying to see the standard screen. Either the screen is smaller, my eyes are old. I'm not sure which is which. Yeah, but what they're saying is it's been much more effective as far as the death rate. Yeah, did it give a number? That's what I'm trying to find. But especially on two of the strands, it actually worked extremely well. Okay, so if you, like that year, I was 60, I guess, when I got influenza.

I had had the flu vaccine and the flu missed. I've been exposed to it. And I still got influenza, but I'm 60, you know, supposedly at increased risk, had a fever of 105, just sailed right through it. So what it is supposed to do is, yes, help prevent illness. but also decrease your risk of dying or going to the hospital. And so, yeah, so your evidence is interesting, but it's not actually evidence. I was just playing the devil's idea. I was just stating what I have noticed.

Yes, of course, of course. But my job is to point out that that's not evidence. Right, that's true. And that's the kind of stuff where people say, well, I got my flu shot on Thursday and I got the flu on Friday. So, you know, you can never convince them. that it didn't cause them to have the flu. But those people got exposed on Monday.

Right. They got their flu shot on Thursday. They were going to get it on Friday, and they got it on Friday because the vaccine didn't have enough time to prevent it. And you will never be able to convince them that the flu shot didn't cause their flu. True. Even though it's impossible. You can't get the influenza vaccine. at least the shot, was never live virus.

You know, it's proteins that were grown and were never, ever part of a live virus. So you can't get, you know, something that's not full, you know, got the full DNA. That's the thing that does it. It's not the proteins that we're making a vaccine against. It's the DNA inside the virus that causes the infection. Did you find something, Scott?

Yeah, really interesting. there's a graph on the CDC that shows the seasonal efficaciousness of the flu vaccine is going back to 2009. Yeah, yeah, good, good, good. So here's what kind of bizarre. Back in 9 and 10, efficaciousness was 56%. And then 60 after that, and since it's been kind of going downhill, this year is right now about 29%. Or last year, yeah, the 1819 was 29% effective, which is interesting because the trend has been slowly. going downhill, down the hill. Yeah, that's interesting.

The worst, well, the worst, the worst, the worst least effective was in 2014. It was like 6%, right? Oh, was it 15? I thought there was one year where it was like 6%. The percentage is 19%, but I'm saying the year is 14, 15. Oh, okay. That's alarming. Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

Yeah. Still, though, the people that got that were less likely to die and less likely to go to the hospital, but they still got the illness. So as long as doesn't hurt you in any way. Well, okay, so the vaccine. The vaccine can hurt you. There's no question about that.

There are, so, would you wear your seat belts if I told you that there was a one in three chance of the seatbelt hurting you if you wear it? In other words, if you're wearing it, you're more likely to die, you know, one time out of three. would you wear your seatbelt in a wreck? I'd still wear my seatbelt. Okay. Because you know that there's a, okay, so there's a, let me, let me give you this. This is a better scenario. If you wear your seatbelt and this will prevent deaths from being cast from the car.

So let's say if you don't wear your seatbelt, you have a one in, a 50% chance if you're thrown from the car of dying. Okay. but if you wear it, you got a one-and-four chance of dying because you were worn it and you were trapped in the car. Would you wear your seatbelt in that situation? No. No. Even though we just decreased your risk of dying by 50%. Yeah.

Okay, because why? What's your thinking? My worst fear would be either burning in the car or drowning. I understand. I would rather be thrown from the car. Now, what if, because it's quicker. But the chances are still pretty minimal. That's right.

Overall. Yes, correct. But if you get in that wreck, you've got a one and two chance if you're not wearing your seatbelt, one and four if you are. Now, what if I told you that it's a one and two chance of dying if you don't wear your seatbelt and you get thrown from the car. But it's a one in a million chance of dying if you are wearing the seatbelt. Now, do you wear your seatbelt or do you not? Well, I do because my car dings until I put it on. Okay, I'll be the car dinging telling you you need to get a vaccine.

I'll just bug you. But does that change the equation for you? Instead of one in four now, instead of decreasing your risk by 50% by wearing your seatbelt, you're decreasing your risk by a million. I guess. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's the situation with these vaccines.

There might be about a one in a million chance of getting Gianboray syndrome, which, by the way, you can survive. I've had patients. It's called ascending neuritis, and it goes up your legs, and they get weaker. weaker. And if it gets up to your respiratory muscles, that's why it's called ascending, because it actually ascends in the body, then you can't breathe. You've got to be put on the ventilator. But properly managed, a lot of those folks will survive. But, yes, the vaccine can cause that. You know what else can cause Guillaume Bray? Flu. So when we had that swine flu epidemic, there were a lot of people who got the flu who got

Guillain-Barre syndrome. So it's not necessarily just the vaccine that causes it's being exposed to those proteins. So those people would have gotten it if they got the flu anyway, they likely would have gotten Guillaumeuray if they hadn't died from the influenza itself. So it's a game of mitigating risk. There's everything we do, there is some risk associated with it. And then you have to decide, well, because a lot of people think the same way that you do, that I'm going to go, I'm going to protect against the more remote risk, even though there's a real present danger.

And psychologists have looked at this, an evolutionary psychologist, feel that some of this comes from the idea that when you're a cave person and there's a saber-tooth tigers are around and they eat you, that the ones that would jump up in the tree, whenever they saw the wind, you know, does it? the grass moving, even if it was the wind, because they were scared. Just in case. Because that's the more remote thing that they, there may have been some survival instinct in that situation because, you know, one time out of a thousand, maybe it really was a saber-toothed tiger. And if you were one of those people that genetically was just like chill, you're more likely to get eaten and over generation after generation.

So it'd be, what, 50,000 or, you know, 20,000 generations, that behavior is, you know, if it was genetically driven, is amplified to the point where you've got people that now are taking the, or opting for the more remote risk, even though there's a more present danger in front of them. So what we need to do is start arming saber-toothed tigers, or I guess the modern equivalent, some lions or something, give them a flu, let them loose in Central Park, that kind of, yeah. I guess, I don't know. I can see that's where you're going to have to think about that.

That doesn't follow to me, but perhaps. It's very odd. So anyway, but yeah. And that's when we see, humans are horribly bad at sort of gut-shotting statistics. And we're really bad at measuring circumference, too. So, Cliff, if you have a, let's say, a penis, and it is two inches. in diameter without doing the math, what would you think the circumference of that penis would be?

It would, to me, like... No, it's like this. So what would the circumference be? Oh, man, two inches? Yeah, exactly. See, we're terrible at this. And we're good at judging distances. How far away from Dr. Scott are you right now?

Oh, I'm about three feet. There you go. See, we're really good at that. And you know what? But judging the circumference of a tree, We need math for that. You know, it's pi r squared. So if it's two inches, so the radius would be, so the diameter, so it would be three, three point one inches around.

So you weren't that far off, but, you know, if we have somebody with slightly thicker penis, they'll notoriously underestimate the circumference. You know, they're like surprise, but it's like six inches around. No, sorry, pi r squared, that's not right. It's pi d. So it actually would be six inches. Two-inch penis has a six-inch circumference. That seems insane to us. Now, why is that?

Because there was no evolutionary advantage in judging how the circumference of a saber-toothed tiger's neck or a tree. But knowing how far away they were and being able to judge that was very important to knowing if you could get away from them. Big difference. So it's interesting. Yeah, P.R. squared would be the surface area. of a cross-section of the penis. If I chopped your penis off... And made a table of it.

And then, right, it made a table out of it. And then we'd want to know what the surface area of the flat part after I chopped it off. So it's gruesome, but, yeah, that's math. You know, math doesn't care about your penis. All right. Well, I mean... I hate math. I hate math, too.

Did you find anything else? No, I was actually reading about Guillain-Bray, you know, extremely rare. And they said the Guillembray incidence of diagnosing Guillembray on a weekly basis doesn't change throughout flu season. That's interesting. It's 80 to 160 per week throughout, you know, for the United States. Is that right? Yeah, 80 to 160 per week. There's no increase.

Nominal. Nominal. Nominal. Very interesting. Yeah, I guess you increase the rates get greater than 50, but that was really the only. And that's a source of bias, too. You say, well, Gianbury is associated with influenza. So if someone gets a sporadic case of Guillain-Barray and they got the flu shot, you're going to link the two.

Yeah. You know, whether they're linked or not. That's interesting. 2019 novel coronavirus, also known as 2019 NCOV, but that's what that stands for, is novel coronavirus. Novel just means that it's new. It's one we haven't seen before. CDC is closely monitoring outbreak of that. As of 129, 2020, which was yesterday for us, there were five positive cases in the United States, 68 that were tested and were negative, but there's 92 that are pending.

Oh, wow. So that's just symptoms like a cold. Right, that's right. And they've been there testing, and maybe they came in contact with someone that had the Wuhan virus or they came from Wuhan, and they're still investigating them. Now, it turns out that they think that the incubation time is about two weeks. So that gives you a lot of time. So you have a bunch of people who could be asymptomatic carriers. That's the worst case scenario in a situation like that where you've got people walking around with no symptoms that are giving you the virus.

Now, presumably they don't start shedding virus day one that they're exposed. So when is it? Is it at day five? and they still don't have symptoms, but now they're shedding virus, or is it day 13 before, you know, they turn positive, before they start having symptoms? We don't know the answer to that yet. Exactly the opposite of the Ebola. You know, guys get that and they get sick quickly. Right, or, yeah, right.

And, like, mono is 60 days. Yeah. You know, you get exposed to mono, 60 days, you get mono. So, so you're walking around shedding virus at some point during that time. Yeah. I don't even know you're really ill yet. So what that means is it's going to be a whole lot more difficult to control. Hey, can I call you in 20 minutes?

So if you feel like you have a cold, how long is it just acting like a cold before it starts acting like the coronavirus? What's the difference? How do you know? Great question. Well, that's a great question. So when you know that you've maybe been exposed or you could have been exposed, any influence, like illness because it starts off as an influenza type thing and then turns into a lower respiratory tract viral pneumonia that's what does the damage oh okay and so they're going to be

testing people for this so it probably starts like every other type of virus you with aches body aches and pains and all that stuff and then it just turns into hail long shit yeah it's terrible and not in everybody obviously like every other virus you know it's some people get affected worse than others. So in about two weeks, we will know something. And in six weeks, we'll really know. Because three incubation periods will know if

we're looking at an epidemic or a pandemic or if it's just something that's like SARS that was bad but wasn't as easily transmitted. Or like MERS, you know, the Middle East respiratory syndrome. Doesn't look like it's real easy to transmit it because there have been relatively

few cases. I'm not an expert. on this stuff. We could get a virologist on here if we need one down the road. Go ahead, lady diagnosis. Well, I've also heard that the only thing you can really do for it once you realize you have it is rest. Is there something else? That's what the CDC had. Right. So, we don't have a medication that's

specific for it like we do for influenza. Influenza, we have zoeufluza now. We have Relenza, which is the inhaled antiviral, which I'm partial to. I've always used that because you don't get the nausea and vomiting that some people get with Tamiflu when you inhale it. And it's going into your lungs,

so you feel like you're doing something, you know. So I really like the Relenza. Pharmacists out there, you guys should be stocking this stuff. It's awesome. And then the Tamiflu. So we've got those three for influenza. We don't have anything for coronavirus yet, but they're working on it. They think that they'll have a vaccine ready for trials in April,

which won't help anybody that's getting it right now. but if this becomes a big deal, they'll go around vaccinating people, and it should help stop it. But that's trials. We won't have it ready to give to people until maybe June or July. So if you get it and you get the lower respiratory thing, then the only thing that can do is support your body until your body heals. So if you're breathing, if your breathing gets so bad that you can't get oxygen into your bloodstream,

they'll have to put you on a ventilator. And there are medications that they might use. They might use steroids. They might not. It depends on whether steroids make people better or worse in this situation. And medications to enhance airflow into the lungs like albuterone and things like, you know, things that they use for asthma. Yeah, typical things we would normally fight a viral infection with. That's right.

They're probably going to try those first. Yeah. Yeah, because really there's just a few common pathways that these things can go. go down. When they cause all this inflammation in your lungs, you know, you just get a viral pneumonia, and this treatment is basically the same. It's not like Ebola where now you're just hemorrhaging out of every orifice, and now you've got to deal with that, too. So, all right, so hopefully we'll know something very soon and just, you know, excellent hand washing. If it turns out this thing is easily transmitted

with droplets, then we're going to look like Asia really quickly with the, with the, with the face masks, and, you know, people like to make fun of those pictures. It's not funny. And it won't be funny if it's droplet easily transmitted through droplets because we'll all be wearing masks coming very soon. Matter of fact, Dr. Scott, now, that might be something we can invest in. Masks. We could have, like, weird medicine masks.

There you go. I like that. You know. It'll be all right. But maybe some. Because in Taiwan, there was like you had to wait an hour and a half just to get a face mask. So stock up now.

Hell, you can buy them on Amazon. Just, you know, if you think you might need them, just buy them now. We need some, like, mask with, like, some groucho marks kind of glasses or something. Something, make it kind of cool. Yeah. Or, like a lamb. Like, nasty teeth on the, painted on the Bible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like those redneck teeth that you buy.

There we go. Or a lampre-mouthed just look creepy. Oh, man, yes. Like the salt monster in the first episode of Star Trek. I like it. Yeah. So, there you go. Hey, so some good news.

Let's do some good news. Dave Cecil has a new song, and the reason I am saying this is good news is I won't have to hear this effing song again for a while. Dave will laugh. I love this song. It's in a different sort of vein than the things that he's done. Very different for him. And I think that it would be good for that moonshiner's show. So if anybody knows anybody at Discovery Channel, this needs to be the moonshiner's theme song.

How hard can it be for us? All we've got to do is drive down the street and we'll be right there where they have all those boys are. I got to know somebody. I mean, shit, par. Yeah. I don't think we can handle it. But anyway, it's a song about a guy running moonshine in the back country. And this was done in a bunch of different stages.

I thought Dave was just going to come up and play his guitar and sing a little song. I was going to do a demo for him. This thing ended up being a two-month project. It has me on the base, and don't judge me. I'm not happy with the baseline on this. and I'm going to redo it before it's done. This is just a demo, though. But we got a local guy that does a lot of the Dobro around here to do the Dobro.

It's beautiful, too. It sounds great. Wiley Sykes out of Greensboro, who's with the Greensboro Symphony, did the drums in another studio. Oh, okay. And then they sent me those tracks. I wouldn't have miced the drums the way this guy did, but it's fine. You know, everybody's different. He probably wouldn't have miced the guitar and stuff the way I did.

But I am very proud of this because it came out of the Weird Medicine Studio. And it's sort of our first proof of concept that this studio can do some quality stuff. Quality demos, anyway. I wouldn't say it's CD quality. But anyway, so here it is. This is Dave's new song, and he's a friend of the show, and he needs to be famous. And this is called Running That Shine. Brought up on nothing is how I was raised, but I tell you something I won't die that way.

a man who told me his rules He said if I could drive, I never would lose Now I'm running these backgrounds on time With each tick of the clock means a dime It don't matter that they say I'm wanted to find When I cross that borderline Running that shine Rummer has it

Rumor has it Sheriff's got my page Breaking his long It's me he does hate He sets up them roadblocks Day after day About he will catch me But I'm miles away

Because I'm running These backroles on time With each tick of The clock means a dime It don't matter If they say I'm a wanted to find went across that borderline Running that shine

I want to change my way From bad to good Start a little man The way that I should Late one night, came to fight, Laude one night, came the fight, share for my tale, A hundred twenty-five per hour Hear me don't fail

Winding these back roads Like a fugitive does Sheriff's a cussing Cause he's eaten my dust And I run in these back roads On time With each tick off The clock means a dime

It don't matter that they say I'm wanting to find When across that bull underline Running that shot Sheriff keeps losing me, deep in these parts Public Enemy number one Because I'm burning Sure Oh yeah, that's good

Yay Dave So he's entering that in some Songwriting contest Along with a bunch of his other stuff I was very proud of that But it was blood, sweat, and tears That took It was a two-month project

And it's all those vocal, it just sounds like he sat there and sang one time through. Each one of those is a little piece on a different track and we had to meld them all together and painstakingly take those dobro, like those real high-pitched

dobro sounds at the end. Those were from a different part of the song altogether, and they just didn't sound right there, so we took them and moved them over. It's crazy. But anyway, yeah, congratulations. Good stuff. He's a good failure that old Dave Shacially is. If you want to check him out, go to Dave

Rayceasel.com where you can book him for all kinds of stuff. And he was on with Gunner Ossison when we had Gunner on. Yeah, that's a good show. He had that other song that was really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's awesome.

Cliff, you want to talk about, I mean, we've got eight minutes left. We haven't answered a single... We've answered burning questions that people have out there, particularly about influenza and coronavirus. That's what's really on people's minds. Yes, it is. So, you're looking for a new job, right?

I am. I've been looking into a government law enforcement type job. I just say that. But they have some pretty strict requirements. I'll just say that much. Yeah. I could do that. I watch NCIS.

And I always know who did it. Always. Oh, you do? Always. First couple minutes. Yeah. I know who did it. And I could see her shooting some people, too.

She beat him down and she tase them a couple times. Oh, yeah. Well, it looked guilty. Is it? I just went ahead and tase it. I just knew. Who you are guilty. One in a million chance, you're guilty, and then she'd just shoot them.

Because, you know, that's how Diane thinks. Next. Labels. Any you, old mofos won't try me. I watch TV. I be good at being the FBI. Son of the bitches. I'll shoot all of you.

I mean, I watch a lot of law and order, and I don't know, every time the FBI shows up, they're always like the, oh, man, they're bad ass. And they always solve the crime. See? Have you ever watched Dog Day Afternoon? They never get hurt. I have not. Okay. So, Dog Day After After.

The only thing that I can say about, you need to watch it, but when the FBI shows up, everything changes. You know, it was all fun and games until the FBI show. She gets real. She gets real on the FBI. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember, we have a great friend down in Houston that listens to the show regularly. Oh, wait. Oh, wait.

What a coincidence. Oh, look. Actually, he came up and met me. Tacey, you're on weird medicine. What was that noise? Yes, he came up. came up back to Diane and I saw you all come in yeah I even said out to her I spoke to her yeah how can that be considering all of our cars are still in the driveway yes but somehow she

doesn't know it's a conspiracy thing she says she doesn't but it's just too now she doesn't she doesn't want you to forget about her no I don't want to ever forget about her she's a good she swell yeah but we do we have we have friends you know like said and he's been up actually Remember, he brought us those FBI medallions up here one time to the show. Yeah, he's a super nice guy. I've got his contact. I've got his number on my phone. He's a good dude.

Okay, cool, cool, yeah. Yeah, we'll hook you up. Well, Clip didn't say he was going to do the FBI. But you never know. Yeah, you can do that or. Keep any options. I'll give you a letter of recommendation like that'll be any good. A, I appreciate it.

No, you're a doctor. I'm that editor-in-chief of a national medical journal. That might not hurt any. See, there you go. I'm captain of Team Awesome. Yeah. He's got to have something. Hell yeah.

I watch a lot of NCIS. I really need your recommendation. You got it. You got it, Cliff. They'll be like, who is this damn floor? So I watch a lot of TV, and I think Cliff will be pretty good. Hey, real good. Hey, real good.

He's a real fart smaler. I mean, smart smaler. Now, what I do on the weekends is no one's good. All right. Let's see what we got. Let me see if I. Oh, here's a, okay, we have to do some other good news because we talk. We talked about some horrible things today.

This is from the United Kingdom immune cell that kills most cancers discovered by accident by British scientists. Now, people go, well, accident. Well, a lot of scientific advancements came as an accident. The invention of plastic was an accident. You mix two chemicals together, sit them there for a little while and come back the next day and it's, doong, don't, don't, don't. You know, what happened? So researchers at Cardiff University were analyzing blood from a bank in Wales looking for,

now this would be a blood bank, not, you know, not a bank where there was a shooting. Diane knew that. She knew that already. Before you even finished the sentence. I bet there was a shooter. Someone was murdered in the bank. This credit union has a lot of blood on the law. That's weird.

Looking for immune cells that could fight bacteria when they found an entirely new type of T-cell. So we've talked before on this show that cancer is an – the problem with cancer is a problem with the immune system where it just doesn't notice that these abnormal cells are growing. So in laboratory studies, immune cells equipped with the new receptor were shown to kill lung, skin, blood, colon, breast, bone, prostate, ovarian kidney, and cervical cancer. Now, show me that they put normal lung, skin, blood, colon, breast, bone, prostate, ovarian, kidney, and cervical cells in there, and they just walked on by. Now we've got something. But I'm sure that they did that. Oh, shit. And I have to, I have to subscribe to see the rest of this.

Oh, boy. Scott, see if you can find that article. Immune cell that kills. Anyway, so this is a good advancement. It doesn't really matter. We already know what it's going to say is they've done this in the laboratory. Now we've got to look at some clinical trials. Well, speaking of clinical trials that are coming, you're all familiar with Duchenne muscular dystrophy.

It's with, you know, Jerry's kids and all that stuff. It's a horrible debilitating disease that robs your muscles of their ability to do their work. They just cured it in a pig using genetic editing. What? Wow. Oh, my God. Give yourself a bill. Give yourself the bill.

That's cool. See if you can find that story, Scott. That's amazing. Kill I'm just finding. Oh, well, don't worry about that. I don't care about that. Did me discover one. Dushan, Pigs.

You know, they had the young man that's the guy that does commercials for the Jerry's kids. A man, he was just the sweetest kid. I think he was on 60 Minutes or something. Oh, a couple weeks ago. Just a brilliant kid. Yeah. Well, there's Scott. I watch TV.

Thank you. Yeah. Duchenne muscular dystrophy is one of the most common and most devastating muscular diseases, greatly reducing patients' quality of life and life expectancy. This is from an article in New Atlas is where I first saw it. Now, researchers in Germany have managed to use the CRISPR gene editing tool to correct the condition in pigs, bringing the treatment ever closer to human tract. Can you imagine?

You know, when we had Gunner Asiacin on, we were talking about cystic fibrosis, which is also a genetic disorder, if they can start without causing I Am Legend to happen to correct just the genetic thing and nothing else and cure people of cystic fibrosis, maybe even in utero before they're born, or people who are prone to Duchenne, muscular dysstery, or who already have it and start to reverse it. How incredible. What a world we will have. That would be amazing. We have got to calm the F down, stop fighting each other. You know, we have more in common than we don't. Cut the shit. And let's not blow each other ourselves up.

And we will have a really cool Star Trek level world in a few generations if we can accomplish some of these things. Hell yeah. So cut the shit. All right? I'm not excited about the Romulan. showing up. I think that'd be cool. Aliens. Well, thanks always go to

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