Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 394 - Brute Bernard
Episode Date: February 23, 2020Dr Steve and comic Jenny McKinney discuss classic wrestling, roller derby, Coronavirus, and more! Also the return of "BIG JO'S MONTHLY VISIT!" PLEASE VISIT: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online... shopping needs!) Feals.com/fluid (lab grade CBD products!) TRIPP.COM offer code DRSTEVE (relax and get 20% off!) simplyherbals.net (While it lasts!) noom.doctorsteve.com (lose weight, gain you-know-what) tweakedaudio.com offer code “FLUID” (best CS anywhere) premium.doctorsteve.com (all this can be yours!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Just to refresh everyone's memory, we don't have to go through your whole story every single time you come.
But you were an actual roller derby girl.
Yeah.
And you went by the name of General Mancaps.
General Mancaps.
Yeah, because my man calves are 18 inches.
And Jenny, you know, being your first name, so General.
Yeah.
I mean, were you called General when you were a kid or did you just come up with that for your roller derby?
No, that was just my derby name because I really needed some.
something to go with man calves.
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That's really, yeah, that's really where I went with it.
There was a girl, her name was five scar general, which was pretty cool.
That's pretty cool.
But I had six scars.
That's a damn good name.
I know, like J-E-N-E-R-A-L.
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That's pretty cool.
Five-scar general.
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There was another girl.
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Was she a heel?
Yeah, 50,000 derby girl names.
And you can't have the same.
name is somebody else yeah sure so you just have to verify through the list that you don't have
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so there's really an association they actually they pay attention to that so you can't have
somebody else's name that's crazy yeah and the crazy thing too was that we didn't know anybody's
real name you know so when you see people out they're like oh do you know so and so and I'm like
I don't know what is her Durban name.
Yeah, right, right, right.
Yeah, because I don't know anybody's real name.
You don't, Shelley Smith.
Yeah, right.
No, I don't know Shelley Smith.
Fabulous Mula.
I wonder what Fabulous Mula's real name was.
We should look that up.
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But I'm going to look up.
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Do you remember her?
She was from like the 70s, right?
She was a wrestler, right?
Yeah.
Mary Lillian Ellison.
Yeah, see? Can you imagine somebody walking up and saying that?
Yeah, right, right, right.
Oh, so I saw Mary Lillian the other night, and it's like, who are you talking?
I'm the fabulous Mool-A.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, she began her career working with promoter Billy Wolf and his wife, wrestler and trainer Mildred Burke,
as well as working alongside professional wrestler, Nature Boy, Buddy Rogers.
So that was a different nature boy.
Okay.
Now, I thought I knew my old classic.
wrestling history, because, you know, you and I have sort of that in common in the sense that
I worked in championship wrestling, not as a wrestler, as a cameraman and audio engineer.
Awesome.
For Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling.
Okay.
Wide world of wrestling, which was exactly the same show in the same studio that we were
to record on that same day, but we had this banner, this big banner, that we had.
went over the bleachers where all the
audience sat. Yeah.
And it said Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling
and then between shows, you had to
go up there and he would get like an intern
to flip the banner around.
So it said, wide world of wrestling.
And our
four chief was a guy named, I think
if I remember right, Jack Lancaster
and he was a real cynical
dude.
And
most of the people, he would call
the um what did he call the oh shit uh he called he was really really down on the audience because it
was a free show and you know at that time the tv shows were lost leaders so it was an hour long
ad for their live shows gotcha so they would pay so all these channels that had championship wrestling
on saturday 9-11 right they were being paid to run those oh okay so jim crockett productions would
come to our studio every Wednesday
and shoot two
wrestling shows. And then
before we shot
those, though, we would do like 70
commercials. There were 35 markets we'd do
commercials for, you know,
two commercials for each. So that was 70
total. And, you know,
they'd have all the wrestlers
sitting in on tables
and they had a little backdrop and then
I'd be on the camera.
And, you know, the announcement go, tonight
in Dorton Arena at Texas
chainsaw match, and then Wahoo McDaniel would come out and go, Black Jack Mulligan, if you're listening, or Black Jack Mulligan, come out and say, you know, Rufazar Jones, if you're listening.
And of course they were listening.
They were right there.
They were just sitting there eating sandwiches.
Have I never told you this story?
Oh, my God.
Oh, God.
It was so great.
And we made the mistake.
We had a really, really pretty young woman on our crew, and we made the mistake of, you know,
leaving her in the studio when they were doing those commercials because it's like we'd start
at nine in the morning right after the last news and then we would go up until noon and then
afternoon they'd break for lunch and then come back and do the shows all after that.
Oh, okay. Yeah, gotcha.
And so there were, when we did those commercials, it was just all the wrestlers.
And if I remember right, it was either Gene or Oley Anderson.
I can't remember which would be the one saying, okay, next.
Rick Flair and Mr. Riesling, Tim Woods,
you're up, and then they'd get up and stand at the sides
while the announcer would do this,
and we'd just have to run them through quick.
And then they'd cut them up,
and all of the shows would go to those 35 markets,
and they would insert these two commercials.
Oh, okay.
And they were specific for their market.
But anyway, the only person from WRAL TV
in the studio with them at the time
would be the camera,
the person running the camera.
Okay.
And so, and it was real simple.
You'd just get a one shot and then you'd zoom out to a three shot, right?
As the two wrestlers would come in.
Okay.
And so, but we made, okay, so getting back to this,
we made the mistake of leaving this really, really pretty woman in the young woman in the studio.
And they just, no work got done.
They were trying to impress her, but it was all crazy stuff.
Like just, you know, belching really loud.
Right.
And one guy walked, one of the wrestlers walked by and then just went, whoops, and just dropped his pants, you know, just kind of like an oopsie.
So we had to ban her from the studio during the commercials.
Yeah.
So it could only be us ugly guys.
Even though they're grown men, they're acting like five-year-olds when company comes over.
Yeah, it was funny.
I remember we went on the road and they took the,
them to an all-you-could-eat restaurant.
And now these guys, these were real athletes.
I mean, they were athletes.
People talk about, oh, it's fake, it's fake.
It's not fake.
What it is is it's scripted.
Right.
You know, and it's not even that scripted.
They practice some moves and stuff, but they would improvise.
So it was a little bit like jazz.
They were sort of like jazz musicians in that way.
But the outcome was predetermined.
And that was what made it not a sport, but rather, you know, sports entertainment.
Right, right.
And, but nothing fake.
about it. I saw all kinds of really awful
injuries and blood
and stuff that wasn't them cutting
their forehead with razor blades, which
I have also seen, but not there.
I've seen it in other venues.
But these were
giant dudes. I mean, I felt
like a little person
in there. Particularly when we
had Andre
the Giant came one time. He would
contract with different places.
Your brain couldn't
focus on him.
Sure.
Because he was so huge.
It was something that your brain just couldn't comprehend.
Yeah, I could see that.
But anyway, so we went on the road and they took them to an all-you-could-eat-eat-eat-a-est restaurant
and the owner of the place was in tears by the time that we laughed.
You want to talk about getting your money's worth.
I know.
That's crazy.
Yeah, we had, I worked in manufacturing and we walked into the office, the operations manager office one time.
and he had George's Animal Steel figures all over.
Oh, yeah?
And we were asking if he was a big wrestling fan,
and he's like, well, yeah, kind of.
He's like, that's my dad.
Oh, wow.
It was George's Animal Steel's son was our operations manager.
And so he ended up...
Well, I bet he had some stories to tell.
Yeah, he was just a real down-to-earth guy.
You wouldn't have even known.
A lot of them were.
Now, there were some that were Primodontas.
I'm not naming any names.
Right, sure, sure.
But when you have, you know, Mr. Wrestling, Tim Wool.
He could be just kind of a normal dude.
Sure.
What cracked me up, okay, we had these two sort of foreign exotic characters.
One of them was Baron von Rasky.
And his move was the claw.
Okay.
And he said, I have the claw.
And he was this bald guy kind of came off as sort of trying to be like a Nazi prince or something like that.
And he would grab your head with his hands, you know, sort of spread out, almost like the face hugger from alien.
and then you would go down, right?
And, you know, that could only work if this is scripted.
Sure.
Because, you know, it was like he had some sort of weird superpower or something.
And then we had Mighty Igor, Polish Prince.
Okay.
Now, Mighty Igor, whenever you saw him on TV, so that, you know, in that three shot we're talking about, you've got the announcer, and then the heel and the baby face would, you know, be out there yelling and stuff.
Mighty Igor would sit out there
and gnaw on a Polish sausage
Right
And he never took a bite out of it
And just took a chunk out of it
And chewed it and swallowed it
He would just sort of gnaw on it
Okay
Right
So and he was from Kernersville
North Carolina or something
I mean he used this
You know that Polish accent that we all
Oh yes my friend
Well that's not so much of a Polish accent
So I can't even do it.
I mean, that's how bad it was.
Yeah.
But so he, one day, I was cleaning up the set.
And so we would record those commercials right next to the living room set where we did our 6 a.m. farm morning show.
Okay.
And so they could sit on the couch as and stuff.
So I'm cleaning up the set as part of my job.
And I pick up the sofa cushions.
Oh.
And underneath the sofa cushion, I found Mighty Igor's fucking Polish sausage.
And what he was doing and what was so gross about it was, I mean, I get, okay, he didn't throw it away.
That's already gross.
Yeah.
But what he was doing was after he was done doing the commercials, he would shove this Polish sausage under the sofa cushion.
And then I presume the next week he would come back and grab it out from under there
and stick it back in his mouth and start knowing on it together.
Had to be.
Why would he do that?
It was so gross.
I threw that thing away so fast.
I washed my hands like, yeah, it was awful.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
So my favorite story, though, is when I was, and people from this show may have heard this one,
it's been a long time since I've told it, there used to be this guy that terrified me
that gave me nightmares in black and white, old wrestling TV,
and this guy's name was Brute Bernard.
You should look him up.
Okay.
Brut Bernard never spoke.
He had this partner, and that, I can't remember.
And Sam Roberts used to, he knew who his partner was.
Let me look him up here.
Brut Bernard.
And, wow.
Oh, and wow.
And his name was James Prudome.
And I knew he was Canadian because I used to see him on Michigan.
When I lived in, you lived in Michigan, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So did I.
Yeah.
But I was a little kid.
Okay.
And I remember seeing him on black and white TV doing wrestling when I was a kid.
And one time I saw him, one of his moves was he would just bite the guy's hand.
Oh.
Get him down and bite his hand and a y, a yeah, a yeah.
And he never spoke.
He would strut around in a circle like a sort of almost ape like or like, yeah.
But going in a circle, you know, yeah, it's sort of stretching the whole time.
And then he would stop and howl.
Oh, no.
And then his partner did all the talking.
Oh, Skull Murphy.
That's who it was.
So I never, James Prudon was Brut, Bernard.
So I heard one day that we were contracting when I was working, now I'm an adult, but I'm 20 something.
Sure.
And when you're 20 something, the fears of your.
eight-year-old childhood, aren't that
that far away. Right. Right. And the
things that caused you nightmares.
And I hear that we're
going to have Brut Bernard
is contracted to come to do
a show. Oh, that's scary.
And yeah, I was like,
I cannot wait to see this guy because he's
terrifying. And I was telling everybody
he's the scariest guy you've ever seen.
You've never seen something
like this guy is horrifying.
And I'm just with that image of him
getting that guy down and just biting his hand.
It was just so brutal, and hence the name.
Right.
So I stood outside the dressing room.
So we had this dressing room that was up these stairs, and they would come down these iron railing stairs and then go into the studio, right?
And so I stood down there waiting for him to come down, and then the door opens, and here comes Brute Bernard, the person who had terrified me in my youth.
And he's, how can I describe it?
He comes down, he's wearing a smoking jacket, a silk smoking jacket, and he's got a cigarette in a holder.
Oh.
Big thick glasses on, walking down these stairs, holding a copy of the Wall Street Journal.
Oh, he's fancy.
He was the nicest guy.
I was still so intimidated, but it was really interesting to see the real person.
And that might not even have been the real person.
That was the person that came to other studios.
Right.
You know, he may have been putting on a little bit of a show even then.
Right.
So, but, yeah.
Well, hopefully that eased your fears.
Oh, totally, totally.
Yeah, said he was known by the name of Brut Bernard or Jim Brut-Bernhardt.
Spent much of his career wrestling as part of a tag team with Skull-Marvie.
Skull-Marvie.
It's just so great.
He competed for several wrestling promotions associated with the National Wrestling Alliance.
So, yeah, died in 1984.
So this, I would have seen him in 77, 78, somewhere, between 75 and 78.
So he died soon thereafter in Charlotte.
So, yeah, he was 6'2.
I don't remember him being that tall.
I remember him being shorter than that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How big was Andre the Giant?
Oh, God.
He was seven feet something.
Yeah.
I might even been seven, six.
Let me see, Andre the Giants.
We saw him in Michigan at the palace when the palace was first built in Michigan.
And I just remember him.
You saw him wrestling?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I think Oly Anderson beat his ass when he came.
So he came as somebody that they could beat.
He was born in Grenoble, France.
Diet of congestive heart failure, which happens a lot when
And these guys are this big.
Okay, but 7 foot 4, weighed 520 pounds.
And I'm just telling you, I walked into the studio and he was leaning up against the wall
and I did a double take because my brain just couldn't comprehend.
Now, really, he's only at 7 foot 4.
He's two feet taller than my wife.
That's it.
Just two feet.
You go like this, two feet's not that big of a deal.
Hold up your hands and do two feet.
That's nothing, right?
But on a person, it's everything.
Yeah.
You're going from my wife being 5'4, who's relatively short, to being a giant.
Yeah.
You know?
Dang.
So, anyway.
Yeah.
I wouldn't think your brain could even process that.
No, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So he famously feuded with Hulk Hogan culminate.
You know, people want to hear about coronavirus.
Any news on coronavirus?
And here we're talking about WrestleMania in 1987.
Sam Roberts has got to be, you know, masturbating right now.
All right, all right, let's see here.
Yeah, I'm just, yeah, it was Andre René Rusimov.
Wow, born in Grenoble, of Slavic heritage, third of five children to Boris and Marianne Rusimov.
His parents were immigrants to France.
His father was Bulgarian and his mother was Polish.
His nickname growing up was D.D.
Hmm.
Oh.
As a child, he displayed symptoms of gigantism, very early, reaching a height of six feet three inches and a weight of 94 kilograms, which is 208 pounds, by the age of 12.
Dang!
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anyway, there you go.
Well, good for him.
Yep.
So do you have any medical stuff for us today?
I knew that.
No, I just have something.
This is so random.
No, this is, I don't know if it's medical, but.
So we got a new dog.
We've had him for about a month, and I gave him a bath, and I thought there was some peanut butter on his ear.
So I went to wipe it off, and it was actually a tick, which freaked me out.
Yes.
And so I took him to the vet.
For a tick?
Well, I couldn't get it off.
And I don't do well in emergency situations.
Okay, yeah.
I just freak out because I want it fixed.
And so I take him to the vet.
and I ask, you know, shoot, am I a bad dog mom?
You know, like, how long has this thing been on there?
And he's like, it's hard to tell.
He said, but I will tell you that people bring their pets in all the time for us to remove ticks.
And it's just their nipple.
Oh, God.
Oh, really?
Nobody wants a tick nipple.
No, no, no, no, no.
No.
Oh, yeah.
So it's the dog's nipple and they look at it.
Yeah, they think it's a tick.
That's not that unusual.
I've had people come to me.
I had a guy, well, let's see.
say I heard about a guy that came in and said, I've got a mass on my chest, right?
And it was right at the bottom of his ribcage just above his abdomen.
And he said, I can move it around.
And it's got to be, you know, I'm worried I have cancer.
It was his ziphoid process.
And the zyphoid process is the very bottom of the sternum, which is, you know, the breast bone.
And he had it his whole life.
But he just noticed it.
And then he couldn't not notice it.
Right, right.
Was it a nipple?
No, no, no.
It was a zyphoid process.
Oh, oh, okay.
So it's just similar in the sense that it's been there his whole life and I just now noticed.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, no, this was just a tick for a hot second.
I think it just happened that day.
Yeah.
But I thought it was beautiful.
Well, I mean, the nipple people, you know, the dog had that nipple their whole life, and then they see it, and I think it's a tick.
If you have a tick and you want to remove it, using fine-tipped tweezers to grasp it as close to the skin surface as possible to get the head, and then just.
pull upward with a steady, even pressure.
Don't jerk it, and you can get rid of it.
Yeah.
I tried.
It just didn't work out.
Don't ever crush it with your fingers.
And if there's any chance that it's a deer tick, those are the little tiny ticks, and it's
been there more than 24 hours, then be vigilant for signs of Lyme disease.
And Lyme disease starts off as a little rash.
It's sort of a fine, silky red rash that expands out from the epicenter from the ticks.
Oh, that would look like a nipple.
No, it wouldn't look anything like a...
No, I see you're thinking like an ariola.
Yeah, like the rash.
Would the rash look like a nipple?
No, it's red and lacy.
Oh, okay.
But no, no, no.
Oh, my God.
So, but yeah, I see what you were going for is would it look like an ariola if it still had the tic there and then had this redness around it.
So, yeah, sort of an abstract version of a nipple.
I guess, yeah.
Except with a tick and a red skin rash instead of a nice, you know, a nice, you know, chewy nipple.
But, yeah, I always hear about using a match to get it to back up.
Just pull the thing out.
It's fine.
And, all right.
So, coronavirus, the new cases in China appear to be slowing finally, which is, you know, I think that, you know, the Chinese have done actually a pretty good job.
And they seem to have been very open about their numbers because they ratcheted up their numbers last week because they said, look, we may be underestimating how many cases we have because some of these cases are happening in areas where we can't test for it.
So we're going to say anyone with flu-like symptoms, we're going to say that they are, you know, their potential cases.
So that actually increased their potential cases dramatically, like three or fourfold.
And, you know, if they just wanted to hide this, which there may be some things to hide,
but if they just wanted to hide the numbers, they wouldn't have done that.
Right.
Now, you could also say, well, if you're gaslighting somebody, of course, what would you do if you're going to hide something bigger by giving us something that seems big, but it's not that big?
So I get the conspiracy ideas and, you know, assuming that that government is not being 100% forthcoming is not a bad assumption sometimes.
But I think right now I think we seem to be getting decent numbers and the CDC and WHO seems satisfied with the numbers.
So more than half of all the recorded cases outside of China have been aboard that.
Diamond Princess ship, said 542 people aboard the ship have been infected with the virus.
The authorities announced an additional 88 cases on the ship, which originally carried 3,700 passengers.
So, okay, so let's say 542, so let's see what the percentages, because this will give us some idea of its transmissibility in an enclosed space.
So ECHO, what's 542 divided by 3,700?
542 divided by 3,700 is 0.1465.
So 0.1465, so 14%.
So 14% of people who were on this thing that we know of contracted the virus.
Now, how many of those 542 have died that we do not know?
It says many of the infected had already been removed from the ship, more than 300 Americans, at least 14 of whom were infected, also been taking off the boat earlier this week and placed in 14-day quarantine at military bases in the United States.
They don't see anything about if anybody passed away from that, so that may be a good sign.
The last time we checked the numbers, the mortality rate was about 2%, but that was including some areas that didn't have access to real good health care.
At least that's what we're presuming.
And so Wednesday, the number of confirmed new cases in China appeared again to be slowing.
We record this on Wednesday, so this is today.
It was put at 1749.
That brought the country's total number of reported infections to 74,000, 185.
And deaths were put at 136, bringing the total to 2004.
So now we can get some little, we have a bigger sample size.
We can get a little bit better numbers.
So let's go for a mortality rate, just given these numbers, and I'll average it out, so we'll do 2,000 divided by 74,000.
Echo, what's 2,000 divided by 74,000?
2,000 divided by 74,000 is 0.027.027. So 2%, right? So it's still sort of holding it 2%.
almost 3%.
Yeah.
Okay.
Crazy.
So, but what that means is, if you get it, you have a 98% chance of not dying.
Yeah.
Okay.
And it would be interesting to do the same numbers with influenza.
There's at times, there are certain influenza viruses that will have 10% mortality.
Swine flu in 1918 would be an example of that.
Dang.
Yeah.
I think there's a family from the next town over.
that ship yes um and it's a physician it's a local physician and we know him oh yeah it's his wife
right right has it well i think yeah or his mother-in-law or something like that but it's yeah somebody we have
a connection yeah that's crazy and they went on this cruise and now he's going to be a month
late getting back yeah i can't imagine just going on vacation and like you're like this is great
and then they're like you can't you're stuck here for 30 more days i would love to get him on the show
once he gets back and things have settled down a little bit and assuming that
that everything goes okay with his family members and stuff like that.
But he has an interesting perspective.
Yeah.
And my wife knows him better than I do, so I'll try to use her to, you know, see if she can get him in the studio.
Yeah.
But anyway, you know, U.S. stocks declined on Tuesday after Apple warned it would miss its sales forecast because of the disruption in China.
So China, apparently, they sell a fifth of their phones in China's, but it's not so much that.
parts. There are almost no resistors made in the United States anymore. So if China just shut down,
we would have to, you know, start manufacturing resistors again. And there would be a lag.
Yeah.
Now, for the bean counters out there who are very cynical investors, this is a good time to invest
because when, you know, I almost hate to talk about any silver lining when we're talking about a possible pandemic, but it doesn't look like it's panning out to be that.
But when the economy tanks during one of these illnesses, you know, contagious diseases, when it comes back, it comes back fast and hard.
So when things recover, because the infrastructure, nothing changes, just they didn't have the people to do stuff.
When those people return to work, and 98% of them, 98% of them, it looks like they will, they get right back to work again.
Everything just bounces right back.
Yeah.
You know, it's like when Papa John's stock tanked when their founder was heard on a phone call saying the N-word.
Yeah.
There's nothing changed about the stock, the company itself, just that the founder gotten in trouble.
Right. Yeah, we had new information.
You know, come on, whenever that was, 2018, 2019, I mean, do you seriously not know that it doesn't matter what the context is, you can't say that word, you know, and without there being consequences?
And so, you know, there were people that bought the dip and it came right back because, you know, the company was still the same company.
It was just as profitable the day after he got booted from the board of the directors that was the day before.
Yeah.
So, anyway.
Bring back Radio Shack.
Yes.
Yeah, our last Radio Shack went out of business.
And that was kind of sad.
But it had gotten sad.
Yeah.
I know.
You couldn't go buy transistors there anymore.
They were trying to sell cell phones.
Yeah.
And, you know, when I was a kid, Radio Shack, you'd go and buy, like, ham radio stuff and all.
kinds of electronic kits and stuff like that. It was cool.
Yeah. We just go there and get electronic parts and, you know, build stuff in the garage
and try not to blow stuff up. Yeah. Well, I had, one of the first PCs I had was a tandy
sensation. And it was called sensation. It sounds like a porn. I know. It was called sensation.
I had an exclamation mark in the name. Any product that has an exclamation mark in its name,
Probably sucks.
But I will say, I used that computer for years.
Yeah.
It was a 386 PC, if I remember right, or it may have been one of the first 486s, but
Wow.
You know, it was way before the Pentium chip.
Yeah.
And, you know, you could almost kind of multitask on it.
I remember I was on the Internet, and I had my CD player going in a different window,
and I thought that was, wow, you know, we've really established something.
thing here. Right. That's incredible how things have changed. But even then, we had 300
baud modems. You're too young to probably remember 300 baud modems, but you would get
on these bulletin boards because you couldn't get on the internet with a 300 bod modem. Yeah.
And you could see the text scrolling. Oh. And then that's how slow it was. It would go
pop, blah, blah, blah, and scroll out this text. Right. If you wanted to go on one of the news groups,
because we had these news groups back then
and there were porn ones
but they had pictures
they were just photographs
and it would
they would populate sort of line by line
you know and so you'd get down
and now you could see you know the top part of
like dial up but like it would just be in line
right that's right yeah it would be rastering down
in these pictures and so
and then you know it would get down halfway
and you'd just start to see the top of an ariola
and then it would stop and say corrupted fly
or something like this.
That's so frustrating.
Yes.
And now you have virtual reality porn where you put on the helmet and I'm just, you know, I've heard.
I wouldn't know from experience, of course, but you put on the helmet and those boobs
are right there in your face.
And when she leans in and says, well, I've got a secret, you know, she's saying it to you.
Right.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But of course, that's not what I use my virtual reality helmet for.
I use it to relax myself using the Trip app.
Oh, okay.
And I don't know if you listen, but we had Nina Reeves on, and we got really good response from that.
She is the CEO and founder of Trip.com.
And they do a meditate.
It's sort of a quasi-meditation type app.
And I encourage people to try it.
You can do the free demo if you have an Oculus Go or an Oculus Quest.
It's got to be one of the two of those.
They're not supporting the other ones yet.
Sure.
And after the show, if you want to try it, if we've got time, I can slap that VR helmet on you and you can try it.
But it's incredible.
That's the only thing that's gotten me through the last couple of weeks at work, to be honest with you.
That's awesome.
I love when people can find what works for them.
Yeah.
You know, like we have a brainwave therapy machine, and it's been amazing.
Let me say we.
What do you mean?
You and your husband?
Yeah.
He had a bicycle accident three years ago.
and he had a brain bleed, and so we purchased this.
So what is it?
It's just, it's headphones and then the glasses and there's light.
It's like light and sounds like that.
Yeah, yeah.
So he might like this.
And so they use, you know, delta waves and theta waves and stuff like that.
Yep, that's exactly what that is.
And to induce this sort of meditative state.
But then the imagery is incredible.
It's incredible.
Just think Avatar.
Yeah.
And you're inside that three-d-old.
world you're actually inside it and then they're talking to you and they have breathing exercises
and they say you know this is trip this next breathing exercise is called the you know eight seven
six or whatever and then they when you breathe in you can see the particles going into your lungs
and then as you breathe out you can see so you breathe in blue and breathe out red oh I think
that'd be amazing if if people have a hard time visualizing yes you know because there are people
that can't visualize and I think that would be amazing for them
Yeah, because when we used to do meditation in the 60s, man, that's what they would tell you is, you know, just imagine that you're breathing in, clean, you know, healing air.
And then when you breathe out, you're breathing out, you know, corrupted thoughts and stuff like that.
And that's kind of what this does.
Awesome.
So the analogy I've used is the yoga folks from India will come over sometime and see American people doing Pilates.
Sometimes they'll hook themselves up to, what am I thinking of, pulleys and stuff, these crazy contraptions.
And they can pull on the chains and then they can pull themselves into these poses that they couldn't otherwise attain because they're not limber enough, right?
And the yogis are horrified by this.
Yeah.
That people are, that they're using mechanisms to attain these poses that they work years to try to.
to attain, you know, naturally.
And I wonder if there is a certain element in the meditation community that looks at this the same way.
Oh, you know, but you're not really meditating.
It's, you know, the VR is doing it for you and all this kind of stuff.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
But it works for me.
Chills people out anyway.
It helps raise a vibration of everything anyway.
Yeah, it's like taking a dang Xanax without failing a drug screen afterward, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
So, anyway, trip.com.
I don't, they're not a sponsor.
We don't get anything.
If you use the code DR Steve, if DR Steve, all one word, they'll give you 20% off if you decide to buy the app.
But you can do a full session in the demo just to see if it's something that you want to do.
And then the experience changes every day.
The format's always the same, but the actual experience itself changes.
That's awesome.
Hello, Ralphie.
Do you have anything to say today?
there was one time we had Ozzy our old dog up here and he liked to huff and puff and he did the show with me and he'd sit over there and just pant and I'd say so Ozzy you know what do you what do you think and then I'd pot up his mic and just hear funny all right you ready to take some calls number one thing don't take advice from some asshole on the radio all right very good and we will not do that and I recommend no one else do that either
Well, I'm, here we go.
Hey, Doug.
I was listening to Virtual Reality show.
Yeah.
I apologize and listened to it in real life.
In 1992, I wrote a paper on virtual reality and how it could help people and how you could make someone that had a stroke, let's say, actually be able to move an inch and think they moved a mile.
Okay.
My teacher told me never come to, never come to fruition.
I'm disappointed by this.
All right, man.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I get it, dude.
Well, okay, I'm also disappointed.
In 19, let me see, I graduated high school in 77, so 78, 79, my dad, who worked in the computer industry, but he made cases.
My dad was a guy that figured out how to make computer cases out of plastic.
So you would think I would be very rich, and he should have been, but that's a whole,
another story. But anyway, he got a computer, he would get computer magazines. And there was this
one that talked about mini computers. You know, they were smaller than a mainframe. And they said,
we have these things called microcomputer chips and they've got maybe four bits or eight bits.
Nobody would ever want to make a computer out of that. This is what they said in this magazine.
I remember reading this like it was yesterday. I'm like, no, I would. I wouldn't care that it
couldn't do the mainframe stuff.
I would love to have a little computer I could just tool around with.
Well, you know, Steve Jobs and Wozniak thought the same thing, but they actually did it.
Yeah.
You know, so this guy came up with an idea, and now they're starting to do it.
And, you know, he's pissed because he came up with this idea in 1992.
He's absolutely right.
He was really ahead of his time thinking about it.
And I do think that they will use virtual reality for a lot of things.
One of them is for phobias.
That's an easy thing.
There's a thing.
If you have a fear of heights, getting out and doing Richie's Plank Challenge will absolutely help you.
It will drive you crazy.
It drives normal people crazy.
It's nothing more than an elevator that opens up.
And when it opens up, the door opens it to the outside world.
And you're on the 100th floor of a skyscraper, and there is a wooden plank extending out about eight feet, and there's a donut at the end of it.
You have to walk out and pick up the donut.
Now, you know that you're in your living room.
Right.
But your brain doesn't matter.
Yes.
But it's a very safe way to desensitize yourself to heights.
Gotcha.
And there are other things like that.
But his idea, using it in strokes to be able to move an inch maybe with your head
and have it move you a mile, as he said, would be something that could be,
I'm very therapeutic.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
So at virtual reality, just starting.
Just starting.
Yeah.
I like the Quest and the Go because you don't have to put sensors in your room.
Right.
The ones, those are a little more functional, but you're attached to something.
You know, you have to have a cable attached.
And so if you're spinning around, you know, you're going to tie it up and pull it out.
You're going to break the connector and all this kind of stuff.
The Oculus Quest is really the way to go, in my opinion, because it's self-contained.
Nice.
So anyway, so we'll see.
But I do see some great things.
We are using the virtual reality in our cancer center now for people who are having anxiety in the chemotherapy suite.
Gotcha.
And I'm meeting with the Investigational Review Board this week to start a study on that.
And I'll have to get it published very quickly.
I don't fart around with my study.
We'll do a, you know, a one-month study and then, you know, crunch the data and then publish the shit out of it.
So anyway, all right.
Oh, by the way, here is a phone call from Stacey Deloge.
Now, why am I pointing that out?
Because I got shit on on Twitter by some guy that said that, oh, I hate it when Dr. Steve has you on, and he doesn't acknowledge that he knows you.
So, no, I know Stacey.
We're ham radio buddies.
I'm the one that introduced him to Opie and Vic Hanley and those guys.
So here's a phone call from Stacey Deloge.
I'm not going to not, you know, recognize him.
I don't know if this is what you call anecdotal evidence or what, but I've shaken my head for the last 20 years,
especially backgrounds in law enforcement, got in the fight, and I grab your hair.
Did I mention that I know Stacey?
That's what I've heard.
Okay.
I think I read that in the bathroom, too.
Yeah.
In the last several years,
now I just shaved it twice a week.
That's all the need for maintenance.
Dr. Changed my testosterone meds and now I'm a 5% every day as far as a cream goes.
The last two months, I'm having to shave my head about every three days and shave my face every day.
For some reason, my hair is coming back.
Yay, testosterone.
Thank you.
Yeah, that's weird.
Thanks, Stacey.
your phone call.
Did I mention that Stacey's a ham radio operator?
I didn't know if you knew that detail.
That's news to me.
Yeah.
And yeah, he has a really cool job and he travels around a lot.
So lest anybody think I'm not acknowledging that I know Stacey.
I know him very well.
Thank you.
Now he has hair issues.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
Right, right.
I guess I probably should answer his question.
So, yeah, that's actually very unusual because testosterone is really the cause for male vertex baldness.
And when you take things like monoxidil or propitia, which is fanasteride, they are blocking testosterone at the level of the follicle, at least fanastride is.
I'm not sure that they 100% know how monoxidil works, or rogay.
Yeah.
But the propitia, aka fanastride, blocks testosterone at the level of the follicles,
so now the testosterone can't prevent you from growing hair on the top of your head.
Now, certainly one of the reasons why I grow a beard and you don't is because of testosterone.
You know, women have a little bit of testosterone.
They need a little bit and have a lot of estrogen, whereas men have a lot of estrogen
and a little bit of testosterone.
I mean, sorry.
I was like, that would make me grow weird.
Men have a lot of testosterone and a little bit of estrogen.
It's sort of like pot and hemp.
Pot has a lot of THC and a little bit of CBD,
and then hemp has a lot of CBD and very little THC.
Sort of the same thing.
And so it doesn't surprise me that if they change the formulation of his testosterone
and now he's getting more absorption that he would have a heavier beard,
that makes sense if you want to transition from a female to a male one of the things they do is give you testosterone and you can start to grow a beard and stuff and the hair on your legs gets thicker and just things like that so that doesn't surprise me but does surprise me a little bit that the hair on the top of his head is is getting thicker yeah so yeah it's interesting but good whatever yeah you know the main thing is he's now how the how are the boners doing right you know
Yeah, there was no question
He didn't speak about that
No, that's right
But you do know him
So maybe you can ask him
I do know him
Maybe I'll call him later
Stacey Deloche everybody
I'll let him get the full
standing in race
Okay anyway
The guy hates you.
This has nothing to do with Stacey either.
He's innocent bystander in this.
He is a frequent caller.
I try to run his questions because he has good questions.
But we have lots of other people who call.
But Stacey has very distinctive voice, and he's been on the shows and stuff.
So anyway, whatever.
But this has nothing to do with him, everything to do with the guy that shit on me on Twitter.
Dr. Steve, this is Mike calling from New York.
I was recently diagnosed with polycythemia vera, p.V, some kind of a blood disease.
The paper says it's a rare blood cancer.
Now, they said part of treatment is to drain some blood because my blood is thick,
and it sticks to the capillaries and the veins, and it could start clotting and cause problems.
Without thinning my blood, just draining something.
How is that any of a feel of a hose and put oily?
fluid in it, the oil's going to stick, and just because there's less going through is still
going to stick to it, and it's not going to pass through easily. I don't know what that means.
So this is not a problem with viscosity. So what this guy has is a disease called polycythemia
rubra vera. And basically what it does is cause a high red blood cell count. Now, if you smoke
or you have emphysema and you don't get enough oxygen into your bloodstream or because you
smoke, you have a lot of carbon monoxide, you'll get a high red blood cell count, too,
but that's because the body is responding to this sort of low oxygen situation by putting out
more red blood cells to carry more oxygen.
The little oxygen that you have, it's trying to carry it.
This is different.
This is actually a myeloproliferative disorder, meaning it's akin to a cancer.
The bone marrow is just making too many blood cells for no reason.
And so his question is a great question.
Why do they treat it by drawing off red blood cells?
But that's not what he really asked.
They're drawing off blood.
So he's associating this with drawing off fluid.
And if you had a very viscous oily liquid and you drew off some from a system, it wouldn't make it any less viscous.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
So, but that's, this isn't a viscosity problem per se.
What this is is too many particles.
So if you had a system where there were, let's say,
BBs running around, there were too many BBs
and they're clogging up the pipes
and you drew off some of the BBs
and then replaced them with fluid,
then there would be fewer BBs per millimeter
and it would be less cloggy.
And that's what you're doing here
is you're drawing off a bunch of pint or two of red blood cells.
Yeah.
And these are the things that are causing the problem.
And there's too many of these little particles in there.
Yeah.
And I know I'm using the word particle very loosely.
But you, and then your body will quickly replace the lost volume with just regular fluid.
Yeah.
As you drink water, you'll retain it.
And then it will dilute out those red blood cells.
And you can do that like once a month sometimes and the person is fine.
Gotcha.
Because it takes a while for the body to regenerate all those red blood cells.
It's not going to happen automatically.
So it's an awesome question.
I love stuff like that because it's just really a way of you're reaching that conclusion
because you're not looking at it in the real world way.
Yeah.
You know?
Is that how common is that?
No, it's not that common.
It is I might see a polycythemia rubra vera at the cancer center maybe once a year maybe.
Oh, goodness.
Okay.
If that.
If that.
New cases.
Now we'll see follow-ups and stuff.
because they tend to do pretty well.
So anyway, we're about to wrap up.
I did, do you know my mother-in-law?
Have you met her?
I don't think so.
Okay.
You've heard us tell stories about her?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
So she's hilarious.
Yeah.
So I found these.
We were looking to see if maybe we could do like a reality TV show based around my mother-in-law.
She needs money.
And she's taking kind of a job that I think, you know, is she's 72,
and now she's having to take a job to keep things going at home.
I'm trying to look for a job for her to maybe that would be a little more fun for her
and something she could do at the end of her life.
And one of the things that I think would be pretty cool is I think she'd make a great subject of a reality TV show
or at least a participant in somebody else's reality TV show.
Yeah.
So I found these things called Big Joe's Monthly Visits that we used to do on this show.
and I totally forgot about it.
So I thought we'd just play one and then we'll get out of here.
All right, let me see here.
Are you getting me to sound like a hillbilly?
Come on in and set a spell.
It's time for Big Joe's Monthly Visit.
Oh, God.
And welcome back.
It's Big Joe's Monthly Visit.
Hello, Joe.
How are you?
It's just fine.
So you know what a monthly visit is.
You've been around here long.
Okay.
So it's a double entendre.
You know, it's her monthly visit.
She would come in once a month and visit and set a spell.
But the monthly visit is also a menstrual period.
I've been doing anything interesting since last time we met?
No.
Okay, good.
I did hear that you had a peeping Tom in your neighborhood.
They think we've got one.
Now, what's he doing?
apparently looking through windows
like I said the other night
if he wants to look at this fat body
he can look at all he wants
Maybe he likes them big boobs
Big boots, big belly, big gut
I mean come on she's hilarious
That's prophetic
That's prophetic
That's so great
She's just so great
She's a classic malaprop
Where she'll get the first
letter of a word write
and the right number of syllables and then everything else in between is just...
It's a guess.
I think this episode, actually, a Big Joe's Monthly visit,
I kind of was able to demonstrate a little bit of that.
We're talking about some of your recipes that you had,
and we were wondering about your chili recipe.
If you could tell us a little bit about your chili recipe.
Steve makes fun of my chili, but it's good chili.
It is good.
I mean, it's for hot dogs, and you make it out.
of two cups of water, a pound hamburger, fry it and get it real, all the grease and stuff
off of it, and a small tube of that chili corn carnie. And he makes fun of it, but it makes the best
hot dog. So first you start with chili. Yes. So that's the first, the way she told it today,
it was the third ingredient, but the main ingredient in your chili recipe is chili. But you add
hamburger meat and chili powder and salt what cracks me up is the first time you told us this recipe
and we were making fun of you and your boyfriend was making fun of you and he brought this
lemonade and we're in the mountains and I'm like man this lemonade's really good and I said
Johnny how do you make this he said well first you start with that lemonade did you get at the store
and here he was making fun of you for having chili be a
the first ingredient in your chili.
Well, I don't...
And, of course, I'll interrupt here.
Hamburger plus chili powder
is chili.
Yeah.
So she's taking...
She takes a tube of chili
and then just makes more chili
and then mixes it all together.
She's just meeting it up.
That's right.
Yeah.
Well, the chili's already meat and chili powder.
And then she's adding meat and chili powder to it.
It's genius.
It's anyway.
All right.
I don't care who makes fun of it.
When we have hot dogs,
sells it sells like cocktails well we've made three thousand dollars and just one
week over that hot dog chili well let's play big Joe trivia oh yeah right all right
so what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask you some trivia questions and you
answer them best you can and if this is stupid I'll erase it all right you ready
question number one what is the name of the coffee drink that they sell at
McDonald's floppy chip I mean I mean take it back I'm
It's okay. Take your time. This isn't jeopardy. There won't be a buzzer.
Flape. There you go. Flape, exactly right.
Okay.
Took me forever and get that down. Flopé. I probably still aren't saying it right.
That's the beauty of it.
What kind of cheese do you use in lasagna, the white cheese? What's the name of?
of the white cheese.
Okay, so the reason I asked this is because she showed up at our house one day with
lasagna and she said, I made this with that retardo cheese.
And she doesn't, she's not trying to be funny.
Right.
She thinks that's what it is.
That's really the word.
Well, that's what makes it hilarious.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, she's trying to be funny.
It's like, well, you know, you can't say the R word, Joanne.
Right.
But that's not what she's doing.
No, she's just saying that.
She literally thinks it's retardo cheese.
Really?
Okay.
What's the other white cheese that you put?
Lop.
I probably still aren't saying it right.
Oh, what kind of cheese do you use in lasagna, the white cheese?
What's the name of the white cheese?
Moncelloella.
Okay, what's the other white cheese that you put in in lasagna?
I do make good lasagna.
Yes, you do.
I don't know the name of it.
I just know the box.
that's sort of like...
I know.
Pove.
Well, I don't know.
The stuff that's in that...
I know what it is.
It's cream and it stinks after a while.
It's kind of like cottage cheese.
Right.
I put cause cheese in it too.
Yeah, if you leave it out for a month, it's hard to say it.
What is that name?
Pervete.
We'll save that for next time.
You think about it.
Yeah.
What's the name of the movie with Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones?
With the aliens in us.
Okay, the reason I asked this question
Was because we were sitting at a baseball game
But my kid was playing out
My other kid was, you know, playing around in the dirt
Yeah
And there's all these people on the bleacher, right?
Sure
And Joanne goes, you know, I think I'm going to go see that movie
Black guys dressed up
And I turned around and said, do you mean men in black?
She's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's what it was.
So, black guys dressed up.
That was the answer I was going for around this.
I don't know.
Came out this year.
Oh, the falling skies?
No.
That wasn't the one I was thinking of.
It was the one with Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones, and they fight the aliens.
Predators.
There you go.
I like that movie, too.
I like weird movies.
Now, we've been watching a show, not the one that we're watching now, but before this, about England during World War I.
And what is the name of that show?
Oh, God.
We only watched 26 hours of it.
It's not Hanover. It's Downson.
Downton Abbey.
Oh, she got it. I thought you were going to say Down syndrome.
I'm sorry.
Take that out.
You came so close to saying down.
That was what she called it when I wrote that one down.
And when she says something, I go, oh, and I get my phone out.
And she sees that because I have a file called shit Joanne says.
Yeah.
And she's like, oh, what do I say now?
It's going in that book, ain't it?
So anyway.
That's awesome.
I was trying to get her to say Down syndrome again.
I don't want to lead her on.
I just want her to say it naturally.
The beauty is her brain is infinitely fertile because the whole McDonald's thing was a
So she's standing in line with my wife at McDonald's.
There's a guy behind her who says, well, I heard McDonald's has a new coffee drink.
I wonder what it's called.
And my mother-in-law, who gets one every day, is going to school them.
And she turns around and goes, well, it's called a floopy.
And I order one every day.
And now she's got him doing it.
And you can imagine every day she goes through their, can I have me one of them flupies
and there are 1,200 calories or something,
so she's wondering why she doesn't lose weight.
But you know, they're in there,
they're going, here comes that flupy lady again.
So when the new people come in, they're like,
what the hell is she talking about?
Now she's got this other guy going,
well, yeah, I'd like to have one of them flupies that lady told me about.
So anyway, that's...
So on this particular episode, she said floppe, another one, she said fluby.
Yeah.
You know, so it's just infinitely...
variable, which is great.
That makes it even more fun.
Yeah.
It took me a long time to get that down.
Guys, I just watched the show.
I don't watch the name.
All right.
We've got a few questions for you, and then we'll wrap this up, okay?
These are called in questions from people.
All right, let's see.
Hello, Big Joe, are you ever?
That's Steve.
Hello?
He's kidding me.
A kid, Big Joe.
He's got, would you all believe he's got that on my
machine, everybody just dies
like, she won't talk to me,
she won't, okay.
So, yeah, well, I got
this character talks like that.
And she asked
me to put her voicemail
message on her phone. Yeah.
Right? And it's like, you can
do it. She's no, I can't do it. And she's not
dumb, but she is intellectually lazy.
Sure, sure. She's not dumb. Yeah.
But she acts like she doesn't know how
to do anything, so we'll just do stuff for her.
Yeah. And sometimes it can be infuriating.
But this time, I just picked up her phone.
I went, well, who's Joey?
And leave a message after the tone.
And I said, and I hand it back to her.
And she's like, well, Steve.
And I said, when you figure out how to do your own, you can get rid of that.
Yeah.
Until then, that's your voicemail message.
Right.
Eight years later, it's still on there.
Oh, my gosh.
So, you know, now she's used to it.
Yeah.
So anyway, that's what that was.
So the old lady was calling in acting like she didn't know how voicemail work because
oh, big Joe won't talk back to me.
So let's run that back.
He's kidding me.
I can't.
Big Joe.
He's got, would you all believe he's got that on my ancient machine?
Everybody just dies like.
She won't talk to me.
She won't.
I can't tell her.
All right.
Didn't fool you with that one.
No, you did not.
I'm a trucker and I like them women with them big old tin
and I wonder if you guys come through your area
about four times a month and I was wondering if I can tell that's me
we can tell that you we got the Big Joe's fried baloney T-shirts coming out
okay then the rest of it's just plugs the fried baloney story is a whole other story I'll tell
of that someday. So anyway, I'm going to try to bring some Big Joe back. If you all actually
would be interested in seeing a Big Joe reality show or seeing her on television, send me a
tweet at Weird Medicine and I'll forward it to the people who are, you know, they're not even
thinking about it, but I sort of floated the idea and they're at least not telling me to go to
hell. So, you know, we'll see. Right. I think that would be fun. My wife is worried that
they're going to humiliate her and that I'm making fun of her and I'm not.
Right.
I mean, we love to make fun of her, but I can make fun of her.
Nobody else better make fun of her.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah, that's how.
But I don't think that there, I mean, I think you can tell that I just really enjoy her.
Yeah.
I think it's just sharing in the enthusiasm of what she has to say.
Yes, she's hilarious.
I would watch it just to see what she was going to say.
Yeah.
And if we were in a situation like that, you know, it was.
would be fun when she's over here trying to get me to put her direct deposit in because
she's just going on the internet somewhere to put in and it's like, where are you typing
this in?
Well, I don't know.
And she's just typing, you know, stuff in to just outer space.
And I have to fix it.
Yeah.
So, and then it turned off.
Maybe your black men in suits are getting her money.
I know.
Black guy's dressed up.
Oh, yeah.
She had to send me her insurance card and I never got it.
And she said, well, I did it right.
And I said, well, I never got it.
She put it on Facebook.
She just, you know, took a picture of it and put it on Facebook.
You know, and that.
Just stop.
I know.
I really want to just tell her, look, because I kind of fussed at her last night because it was like, this is ridiculous.
And I shouldn't do that.
And I don't want to do it, but I don't know how the hell she lives.
Right.
So I've got to not do that.
And what she needs to do is just bringing the stuff and stick it in a stack and just leave it for me to do.
And then I'll just do it.
Right, right.
But not for us to try to do it together because there ain't no together.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
I got to talk to her today about that.
I'm going to put an inbox and whatever you need me to do, just stick it in it.
And I'll just do it.
Yeah.
Well, you don't know the password to your Kindle.
I have it.
Yeah.
You don't know your Wi-Fi password.
I have it.
Right.
You know?
Well, I think you're.
Like, that's a safety measure, though.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Well, but if I die, and I told her this earlier, I said, you know, you've got to at least know your password to your Amazon account.
Right.
Because if I die, I will guarantee you, neither you nor your daughter will be able to get into my password vault.
And you're just going to be, you know, every piece of equipment you have will no longer be functional.
Yeah.
So.
Scary.
I know.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
So I wrote all her passwords down and handed it to her.
And I know she's going to take a picture of it and then post it on Facebook.
All right.
Well, hey, thanks to Jenny McKinney.
You got something to plug?
Oh, nothing coming up yet.
Just check me out on Joke Smack and Cheese.
I release some stuff there.
Okay.
Now you're going to be at the Cascade Alehouse.
Is that what it's called?
Draft House.
Cascade Draft House in Bristol, Virginia.
Tennessee.
Is that, are they in Tennessee?
It is on the Tennessee side?
Yeah, it's on the right side.
I can never figure that out.
Yeah, I think the left side of the street is Virginia and the right side is Tennessee.
That's the dumbest thing.
Yeah.
Okay, so anyway, in Bristol, Tennessee, and you don't know when you're starting yet?
Not yet, no.
Okay.
They're going to be doing open mics.
They're going to have, I think the first major comedian is Mark Norman, and that'll be a really cool gig
because it's a very small, intimate atmosphere, limited to about 100 to 180 people.
so and Mark will be great in that atmosphere and he's doing the owner and he's really doing me a favor
and I'm doing the owner of favor but you know just to kind of kickstart that you guys are going to do
sort of a soft opening and then Mark will be the grand opening and after that you guys are off
and running and you're leaving me out of it which is great I'll help you get people like Mark
but if you guys will run it I will love you forever yeah all right because I got enough shit to do
well you're busy with Joe that's why you're Joe's manager yeah I'm then taking that
on. So I've got to
offload some of this stuff.
Yeah, that's crazy. Well, we can't forget Rob Sprantz,
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