Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 421 - The CDC "Conspiracy"

Episode Date: September 3, 2020

Dr Steve and Tacie discuss the "quiet adjustment in death data" from the CDC that has hit social media (again), fecal aerosol transmission of COVID-19, Narcan use in the home, and more. Check Out: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) noom.doctorsteve.com (lose weight, gain you-know-what) Get Every Podcast on a Thumb Drive (all this can be yours!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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have a husband that's 65 years old in 12 days, and he picked out the number 3-47 poo head. I've said this many times. I did not know what I was getting into. it just you were a nice guy I loved you and I didn't know the weirdo thing if these people could see this what third floor that we have up here oh you love it I love it no it is it's pretty fucked up yeah it's now it's better and it was but I still got a lot of work to do but you know when when we have a weekend and I have to you know I want I'm going to hang out with you. I don't want to be up here working, so after 15 years, I've basically done nothing.

Yeah. Well, I agree. I would rather you be hanging out with me, too. But if you go out of town, next time you go out of town, I've got a couple recording sessions I've got to do, and I'm going to finish this third floor. I've been out of town plenty. Well, I know I had other things to do those times, so I'm going to do it this time. Well, I think I have. I used to have, it used to be vomiting, nervous.

stuff in here. It looks like we just moved in. And we've lived here 15 years? Well, yeah, everything's out of boxes, but it just, it used to literally look like the bookshelf was vomiting out, you know, action figures and stuff. So that's all gone. And the problem is I sold off on eBay, all the stuff I could get a lot of money for. And now I'm left with the stuff that it's a big pain in the ass to ship it to somebody. And I might get, 10 bucks for it. Just donate it. Well.

It's valuable. Okay. Well, if I can find somebody who'll take it, I'll donate it to them. No, I'm not going to tell you what to do with all of your stuff, all of it. You're not wrong. But anyway, yeah, so that's neither here or another. I mean, a $10 thing times, I don't know, four or $5,000 is a lot of money. There's a lot of money.

I didn't think about it that way. Anyway, yeah, I'll work on that. I'll talk to E. Rock. Maybe E. Rock will take it because I'm sure Ange doesn't mind that he has a basement full of action figures and pop figures. Can you imagine? All right. Well, by the way, I am now a COVID-19 vaccine trial participant. Yeah, I'll get myself bad at him.

And Tacey's going to do it, too, but she wanted to wait to see if I die first. Well, yes. So, and I think that's smart. You know, back in the day, we used to think about taking separate planes to go places in case one of us went down. Now we just take the kids with us, so we'll all go down together. All go together. But, yeah, I think that's smart. So, yeah, I got it today.

It was a pretty professional deal, as you would expect. This is a Pfizer study, and they're doing, Pfizer's doing. the study for a company called Bioentech and is an MRNA vaccine. And the MRNA vaccines are a lot easier to make than the others are because you don't have to grow something in cell culture. You can just make these RNA. Once you get one strand, you can just amplify it. There's a machine that will just take it and amplify it and make more.

And I know we've talked about it before, but for people who are just now listening who don't know what it is, instead of injecting a protein, like you do say with influenza, that the body then recognizes as foreign and makes antibodies to, you're injecting the instructions to the cell to make the protein. So, MRNA is just a set of instructions. It's like a deck of computer cards or just a computer instruction. And it's a set of instructions. This is how you make this protein. And so it inculcates itself into the cells.

And then the cells just go, okay. Here's a couple of ribosomes. Let's put them on there and some transfer RNA. And we'll just bing, bing, bing, bing, and we'll make this protein. And then the protein gets expressed on the surface of the cell. And then the body then recognizes it as foreign and makes a humeral. and cellular immunity against that protein. And it acts more like an infection because these things,

these proteins instead of just floating around are actually on the surface of the cells just like they would be if a virus was making them. So it's pretty cool. And I'm very excited about it. And I have a 50% chance of having a placebo, but I'm pretty sure I got active vaccine because I'm already starting to feel a little bit of myalges. some pain at the site. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. So we'll see. And they give you, anybody that wants to do this, by the way, just check and see if one of your local research

facilities is doing this. They pay you for it. And you get a little app and you have to check in once a week and tell them how you're doing. And every time you check in on the app, they give you a little bit of money on your card too. So, I mean, you know, it's a way to just get a little bit of walking around money. Walking around money's good. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm very excited. I promised our listeners that the second that this crap, you know, came to our area where I could do it, that I would be the first to volunteer. And I wasn't the first, but I was among the first. And because I want to do this, I'm so sick of this that I'll do anything I can to make it in. I even told them, if you want to do a challenge trial, spray COVID-19 up my nose in a week and we'll just

see, because that, of course, would accelerate approval of these vaccines if we could get a cohort of people where they do a challenge trial. And why is that? Well, because even today, how many cases do we have in this country now, five, six million? That's, you know, well, what does that work out to? Like 5% of the population, if that. And, or is it like 2?

and a half percent of 350 million people anyway you yeah seven percent would be five percent right so when when we have such a little such low numbers the vast majority of people aren't going to get it you know if you have even at five percent 95 percent of people are going to get it so you vaccinate a hundred people and none of them get it you haven't said anything because there's a a chance that any random 100 people will never get COVID-19. So, you know, they have to vaccinate a ton of people. Now, if you took, let's say, 200 people vaccinated them and shot COVID-19, you know,

SARS-COV-2 up their nose, you could get excellent data right away. And, you know, then if nobody got it, you could say with some confidence that this vaccine was effective. Steve, I keep hearing of people who are diagnosed with COVID, and then they just don't get better, but then, you know, month or five weeks out, they're not testing positive anymore, but they're still just sick. Is that virus just rampaged their body? I mean, is that what's going on with that? Sure. So there are these ACE inhibitors all over the body, or not ACE inhibitors, ACE receptors all over the body. and the virus can cleave to any of those ACE receptors.

There's a ton of them in the nose, but there are some in other parts of the body as well. Plus, the inflammation that this novel virus causes because of the body's immune response to it can cause damage in the blood vessels, in the heart, in the kidneys. And so you can clear the virus, and if you had a really vigorous inflammatory response, you could still be pretty sick after. word. So that's where a lot of that's coming from. Now, there was one person that got reinfected that they're pretty sure was a true reinfection, not just a couple of false negative tests, and then they had a true positive test. And apparently that person actually did get pretty sick. The vast majority of data that I've seen on people that have tested positive a second time have not actually been symptomatic. So we'll just have to see if that was a fluke

or if there's a trend there. There could be a small number of people and it will be vanishingly small that if they get reinfected, they'll get sick again. But, you know, that remains to be seen. We only got one case now, so we don't really know anything. Okay. What did you hear?

Yeah, go ahead. Well, I have an article. Okay. This one is actually interesting, everyone. Okay, yay. It's from the Analyst of Internal Medicine. And it talks about fecal aerosols in the transmission of severe acute respiratory curabona, whatever COVID-19 has been suspected. Yeah.

So farts. Yes. Farts. So fecal aerosols would be flatus and sharting, basically. And we talked about this before. you and are you sure that was not the anals of internal medicine

it was a parody state? I don't know how to say it It was the annals of internal medicine A-N-N-A-L-S Of course You know what? You want to be a smart ass Do this show yourself

Now I'm not talking about that I was making a joke About their fart I just now got it Okay you got it Okay thank you But I'm just so used to being made fun of it I don't ever make fun of you, but anyway, so they have postulated for some time that because this virus is swallowed, that it can make it through the GI tract.

You can detect viral RNA in stool. It doesn't mean that it's infectious, just because you can detect the RNA. If it's naked RNA, it can't do anything. Or if it's viral particles that have some RNA that's at the threshold that you can detect it, again, Again, you can't get infected by that. And we have talked about the toilet plume, where when after defecating, you flush the toilet, and then there is a plume of fecal particles and aerosols that hit the air. Now, if you had an infectious viral particle in that plume that could be transmitted by inhaling it,

then, yeah, in theory, you could get a disease that way. And also, the conditions that I came up with that you would have to have to infect someone through Flatus would be these. Number one, that the virus has to make it through the GI tract intact. Again, just because you can detect the RNA doesn't mean that, that can infect you. So it has to be intact. So that's the first condition. Second, you would have to be extremely close to someone when they pass gas.

Because these are not gas, viruses aren't gases. Even the nanoparticles themselves are heavier than a gas because the molecular weight of a virus is huge compared to, say, hydrogen sulfide. So just because I pass gas over here and you can smell it, doesn't mean that a virus could travel that far, okay? Are there any conditions that you can get from? Yeah, so that's where I'm getting to. So if you crouched down behind me and I bent over and I blasted one right in your face,

and the first condition was met that I had live viral particles in my rectum, I could conceivably under those conditions infect you with SARS CO. V2. So other than that, you know, again, we get to that bell curve. This is so many orders of magnitude away from the mean of droplet transmission that it's, you know, we might get one or two maybe, but to my knowledge, there's not been a single case that's been attributed to fecal aerosols, but I'll keep my eye out for those. Now, some of the Somebody accosted me online and said, well, you were wrong about the aerosol thing. No, there have been aerosol transmissions, but some of these articles that are talking about aerosols are conflating droplets and aerosols and just saying that aerosols are really small droplets.

So you have to be careful how you define these things. So what's the difference? Well, you know, if you have a true aerosol that can sit in the air, that's not the same thing as a. small droplet. Okay. You're talking about misting something. And so it really has to do with particle size. And you can define these things. There's a range. There's not really just one cutoff. Well, this is a droplet and this is a particle from an aerosol. And so depending on how you define that, you can come up with different answers. But they're really all the same answer. They're just defining those terms differently. Okay. Okay. Anyway, so let's talk a little bit about the CDC.

I thought a lot of people would call in about this, but they really hadn't, where have you seen on your Facebook or Twitter, well, you're not on Twitter, but on your Facebook where people have said, oh, see, this is proof the CDC is covering stuff up. Yes. They very quietly. They're misrepresenting. They very quietly ratcheted down their death rate to say only 6% of people actually died from COVID-19. Yes. Explain that, please. I have an article pulled up right now.

that claims that or do you have one that refused it asks it asks the question okay ask the question then did COVID 19 cause only 6% of the coronavirus deaths no that's incorrect and here's why so people are using this to say well this is no big deal it's nothing it's the CDC even admits it because they just said that only 6% of all these deaths were actually caused by COVID 19 that is not what this and this we dealt with this I dealt with it on the COVID sit rep on our YouTube channel at the laugh button, YouTube channel. And I've dealt with it on this show before. When this report comes out, people freak out and then it goes viral. And it's the same thing every time that, oh, they're quietly revising their estimate. That's not

what happened. This report that they're talking about, and my, I actually don't have a problem with people that are spreading this around. I have a problem with the CDC because I even wrote to them and said, your messaging sucks on this. This is a specific report called the provisional death report. And this provisional report is based on death certificate data. So when you write a death certificate, it goes into a database, and then they have this database. And of those, all of the death certificates that,

that listed COVID-19 as a cause of death. Only 6% of those said COVID-19. Now, here's how we do death certificate. So everybody needs to understand this. The death certificate will have four or five slots, and it's the same in every state, that says they died of this, due to this, due to this, due to this, due to this. So you can say many things.

So you could say the person died of sepsis due to urinary tract infection due to bladder outflow obstruction. Okay? So someone has COVID-19 on Wednesday. They get viral pneumonia on Thursday. They get respiratory failure on Friday, and they die on Saturday. So this is how I would do the death certificate in that person.

Number one, they died of respiratory failure. due to viral pneumonia, due to COVID-19. Now, that death certificate, that person obviously died because they were infected with SARS-C-O-V-2, right? But the death certificate is not going to be in that 6%, it's going to be in that 94% where it didn't just say COVID-19. Now, my argument is that that 6% that said COVID-19, by, and says whether you get a death certificate, what did they die from COVID-19? That was lazy. Lazy work.

It's not only lazy. Yes, it's worse than lazy. It's incorrect. Well, it's incorrect because it's lazy. So you're absolutely right. It is, no one dies of COVID-19. They die because of what COVID-19 does to the body. And when that happens, you're supposed to enumerate that on the death certificate.

Some people are dying a risk. failure. Some people are dying of shock. Some people are dying of renal failure. Some have strokes that are caused by, you know, the inflammation caused by cytokine storm that was caused by COVID-19. Those are all deaths that can be attributed to COVID-19, but will not be in that 6%. They'll be in the 94%. And when you look at that report, it's specific. specifically says, you know, I think the number one cause was respiratory failure. Well, that was caused by the COVID-19. So there's no quiet ratcheting down. There's no conspiracy here that's just crappy messaging by the CDC. And that number should say 100%, and that 0% of death certificates should only say COVID-19 on them, you know? And people are saying, well, it's just people with

Pre-existing conditions. Well, yeah, I mean, if you have no pre-existing conditions, I literally, at my age, don't know anyone that doesn't have a pre-existing condition right now. You know, at least everybody, all of my friends either have high cholesterol or they've got stage one hypertension or something like that, you know. Or even in their 40s, even in their 40s, people have pre-existing conditions. Now, is this, people are, should we shut everything down and put everybody out of business? Because no, I think I definitely agree with the people that say we should be protecting the people who are most vulnerable and protecting our hospitals from overwhelming the, you know, the system so that people who have an appendicitis and otherwise would die if they couldn't have surgery.

get into the hospital. It's not full of COVID-19 patients, and the hospital isn't shut down to all other comers, because in that situation, people will die, but it won't be just the COVID-19 people. It'll be the people with heart attacks and surgical emergencies, compound fractures, trauma, and stuff like that. They can't get into the hospital. So that's why we're doing this. So we have to protect the vulnerable. By the way, that's me. Thank you. And we have to. to protect people with, and so I'm careful. I'm not going to, you know, concerts and stuff like that. I'm okay with them having even crowds for certain populations of people, although if you're 20-something and you think you're completely immune from dying from this, you've got

another thing coming because although you're in the lowest risk group, the risk is not zero. Let's just look up COVID deaths by age. I mean, even colleges, Steve, they're just... Yep. Oh, and the worst thing that these colleges can do, though, is when they get a dorm that's full of people with COVID-19 and send them home. Oh, yeah.

Because then they're not only taking it home to their parents, but they're taking it, they're spreading it geographically. You remember that video we watched early on in this where they had all those people at spring break and they were tracking their cell phones, and you could just spread across the country. And that's what happened. So if they get an outbreak in a college, they need to shelter in place. So let's see here.

But they're not, though. They're not sheltering in place. Are they not? Well, I don't know what they're doing with the infected, but I do know that a lot of people are just going home. Yeah. Well, I have issues with that. But okay, so if we use 18 to 29-year-old as the comparison group, then if you're 5 to 17, your rate of death is 16 times lower, not 16 percent, 16 times lower. And then if you're 30 to 39, it's four times higher, 40 to 49, 10 times higher, and 50 to 64, which is where I am today, 30 times higher.

But guess what happens 12 days from now? It goes up to 90 times higher. Now, that's one of those weird, you know, disconnects where one day really isn't going to make any difference. But that's just people in that group. And so, but those are relative numbers. Let's see if we can get absolute numbers. Absolute numbers. Deaths from COVID-19, 65 to 74, 12,766.

This was just, what, well, what is this? Let me see. That's weekly update. Okay, here we go. Updated August 26th, deaths involving coronavirus, pneumonia, and influenza. Okay, oh, and influenza. Let me see. Okay, all deaths involving COVID-19 in ages under one year, 17, one to four years, 12.

Let's look at 15 to 24, 280, and 25 to 34, 1257. And that's out of 88,000. So your chances are about what, one point, something in 88 of dying if you're in that group. So, you know, the odds aren't zero. Those are, that's a crap load of tragedies. Yeah, it certainly is. You know? And, yeah, it's not as tragic when I die.

No, it is. I had an acquaintance. a very mild acquaintance, but a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend, just died today. How old were they? They were older, but, you know, they were retired. They were living the life that they've always dreamed of. Yeah, I'm never going to retire. I'm just telling you that right now.

Everybody I know that retired, something bad has happened to them. Especially physicians. They retire and they just drop dead like flies. But, yeah, they're living. the good life, the life they'd always wanted. And then here comes this virus. And I saw him a couple of months ago. He was absolutely fine. And he got it. And it just got him. This is one of the people that you partied with when you were down there? This was when I went in May. No, it's not not of the fire pit. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Wow. Yeah. So out of 88,716,

people in my age group, there was about 34,000, so about a third of the deaths were in my age group. And so anyway, all right? So the CDC is nothing, if not mostly transparent with data. They may be shady on some things you can make that argument. I'm not making that argument. I think if we can't trust the CDC on things like this, then we are in really in worse trouble than we think. But they're not ratcheting down numbers and quietly. putting it out. If they wanted to cover it up, why put it out? You know, this report comes out

on a very regular basis, and every time it comes out, I see these tweets. So, all right? Yes. Does that make sense? It does make sense. Thank you for going over that, because I'm sure with all the really smart people at my gym, I'll be hearing about it today. Okay, well, then you'll know what to say. I'll probably just ignore them. All right. You know what? I didn't download all the voicemails. Well, that's good. Well, that's okay. So we'll literally take one second to do this. Let me see here. Oh, yeah, we got some good ones in here. We've got one on Barrett's esophagus that I'm going to need you to, to, because you're my Barrett's expert. So let's see here. Sorry, everybody. I'm got. I am not a Barrett's expert. Well, you know more about it and I do.

No, I don't. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, okay, I know more about it than you do, but I wanted to give you something to talk about. I don't need to talk. Okay. You're fine. Let's see what we got. What's up, Dr. Steve? How are you doing? I just wanted to call and ask about pipeline water.

I bought this water today that's like pH 8.8.8. And I remember you saying a while back that we can't really change the basic or acidic levels in our body. they always maintain, like, a really tight margin. So I'm just kind of wondering what the benefit of all this is, and if there really is one, or if it's more mumbo-jumbo. Yeah. Thank you, Bob, Matt, take it easy. That's a great question because I know a lot of herbalists.

Oh, I'm going to get so much trouble with Scott right here. Well, he's not an herbalist. No, natural. Yeah, naturopath. Yes. Who talk about the acid, the acidic level of your blood. Is that possible? Nope.

Okay. So if you come in to me and you have, so your pH right now is 7.4, barring that you're hyperventilating and you can run it up or barring that you have some other issue. Drink a bottle of wine last night. Well, no, it should still be okay. Your pH is 7.4. Everybody that's listening to this, unless they have a condition, their pH is 7.4. It's very tightly regulated by the body. Now, if you take in alkaline water or acidic water, which you do, like if you drink lemon juice, okay, what happens is the body detects this change in your acid-based balance, and it moves to correct it.

And so you will pee out, if you drink alkaline water, you'll pee out alkaline urine to get the body to return back to a pH of 7.4. You can hyperventilate and get your pH up to about 7.5, and that's about it. Now, there are some benefits to doing this, but they all have to do with your urine. So there are kidney stones. So when you have uric acid and cysteine, calcium oxalate stones, they form an acidic urine. Okay. Struvite, those are magnesium and ammonium-oform.

and calcium phosphate stones form in alkaline urine. So if you are a person that's prone to making struvite kidney stones, and how would you know, when you get a kidney stone, you take it in and have them analyze it. Then doing what this person's doing will make them worse, and they will rue the day that they drank that stuff. Because it's just, you remember in chemistry, you would put some stuff in solution,

then you might add a little acid or base to it. and it would precipitate out. That's what's going on here. My chemistry teacher, my organic chemistry teacher, actually did all my experiments for me because I couldn't figure it. Well, and because you were hot and with the big boobs. I got to see, though.

Yeah, you did? Mm-hmm. I'm still pissed about this. The one A-minus I got was in a lab, and it was a chemistry lab, and there were these two women in there, and they were extremely attractive, not unlike yourself.

And the T.A., the chemistry, quote-unquote, professor, he was a, you know, a doctorate student, had the odds for them. So he was always at their table doing their experiment for them. And when the thing was over, I got an A-minus. It's like, I turned all this stuff in. All my results were perfect with intolerance. He said, I know, but I could only give, they only allowed me to give two A's. And so I gave it to these two. And so I had to give you an A-minus.

So that took my average from 4.0 to 3.999.99. I was so pissed. But anyway, bastard. Sounds terrible. Yeah. So when you tell me that story, that just gets it all going again because your chemistry professor is trying to do the same thing. He was trying to make time with you. You think he would have done that for me if I couldn't. Oh, excuse me, I can't do my, oh, I'll be right there and help you, my, you know, young man. I really think he just felt sorry for me. Yeah, and it's easier to feel sorry for somebody who's hot with the big boobs, too. So, I'm just saying. But anyway, all right?

So whether I'm right or wrong, we'll never know. I'm sure he was just very altruistic and helping you out, although you could argue that's not helping you by doing your project for you. No, it helped me because I've never used it, nor will I ever again. Okay. Well, anyway, so you're in, yes, you can change the P.S. of your urine, you can transiently by maybe a hundredths of a point or something change the pH of your blood by drinking something, but the body will immediately react to return you

to a pH of 7.4. So any other claims that are made for this are not substantiated in the medical literature, and it would be easy to know. And so, okay, I'm going to cure cancer with alkaline water. That's the easiest thing in the world to test. Right? How would you do that? You've listened to this show long enough. No. I will have it. So I will tell you then, because this is what I know Tacey would say, if she weren't shy, you would take a thousand people who have cancer. And this is an unethical study, by the way. A thousand people who have cancer and you give them alkaline water. Now, I could make it ethical by giving them standard treatment at the same time.

time. Okay. So let's just say we're going to do it in kidney cancer because that makes the most sense because, you know, the kidneys are at least involved in pH balance. And so you take a thousand people with renal cell cancer and you match them by stage, age, risk factors, all that stuff. And you give them alkaline water and then you take another thousand people and you match them the same, you know, case by case, if you could, the best you can. You want to try to find clones of the people that are in the treatment group. And you just give them the regular treatment. They all get the same treatment except one group gets alkaline water, one gets regular water,

and they can't tell the difference. You can, if they could, if there's a taste difference, so you put crystal light in it, do whatever you got to do. And then at the end of it, you decode it. I don't know which one the people got. They don't know, and follow them for five years. And if at the end there is a statistically significant difference in favor of alkaline water, hell will give everybody alkaline water. This will no longer be a controversy, you know.

That's how you do it. The reason there's a controversy is because they don't want to do that. They just want to make claims for this stuff, you know, because they know that if they do the double-blind placebo-controlled study and it works, there's no. skin off our nose. Hell, we'll start using it. But if it doesn't work, they're out of something that we don't do. You know, so that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's sort of logical fallacy that the people who, and, um, who are proponents of, of whack out, wacked out pseudoscience stuff. Now, we can prove that it's not whacked out pseudoscience. Yes, I have a bias. I wouldn't be the one to do this study because I am biased to,

against it, but I'm open-minded enough to accept the results if they do a good study on it. All right? Let's see. Dr. Steve, how many of our questions do you research beforehand so you can give us a fully-fledged answer? When do I ever give a fully-fledged answer to anything? Just digging out of your ass whatever answer you can pull up out of whatever you learned in men's school. Thank you, Dr. Steve. Well, that's why we say don't do what.

Yeah, that's right. You say. Thank you. Here. Give yourself a bill. Yeah, don't do anything I say, because I am mostly pulling these things out of my, you know, ass crack for real. And there's about 10% of questions that when I get out, it's like, ooh, that's interesting. There have been a few questions that have been asked where I said, no, that's complete horse feces.

And then I, but I'm going to do some research before I say it. And then I find out that, no, in fact, there really is something to this. I can't think of any right now, but longtime listeners will remember the few times when I said, I thought this was complete bull, and it turned out to actually be something. So I learned things from you guys asking questions about some of the, particularly some of the more offbeat stuff. So anyway, there you go. That was a good question. It was a good question.

Hi, Dr. Steve. When I cook, I like some of my foods pretty bright. Some of my vegetables, hot dogs, especially, which are not vegetables, but just, you know, charmed really well sometimes, you know, possibly excessively. Now, there's ideas that these could be carcinogenic, and it might not be ideas, it might be real, but as for the vegetables, how much nutrition am I possibly leaching out of the vegetable by, cooking them possibly too long. And maybe some stuff about the carcinogenic hot dogs, too. Thanks, Dr. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's talk about the vitamin or the nutritional value. So there are some vitamins are what we call heat labile, meaning they can be broken down in the presence of high heat. And interestingly, the fat soluble vitamins are less likely to be broken down in the presence of heat. And so the nemonic for fat soluble vitamins is ADEC, A, D, E, and K. So vitamins A, D, E, and K are fat soluble. Those are the ones also that you can get in trouble if you make a dose. Because they're fat soluble, there's a reservoir of them in the body and the fat cells.

And all the other vitamins C and all the B vitamins are water-sliable. And so you're going to lose some vitamin C. you'll lose some B vitamins. If you're just charring the outside, as we did this weekend taste when we made street corn. Oh, that's so yummy. That was so good. Let me just talk about street corn for a minute

because I'm just jonesing for it again. We'll need it this weekend. So you take a fresh eerie corn, and what I did was I did something from Sam, the cooking guy's YouTube channel, was I took melted butter and some chili powder, mixed it up, and then I brushed it on the corn before I put it on the grill. And then you put it on the grill on high,

and then just be turning it and watch it, and you want to just very lightly char some of the kernels. Not all of you. You don't want the whole thing just burnt, but you want it charred some, so it looks more like what they used to call Indian corn, where it's got lots of different colors. And then you take it out, and you slather,

and I mean that in the truest sense of the word, a mixture of mayonnaise, one-to-one mayonnaise and sour cream. Now, I've seen some recipes where they just do the mayonnaise. A little, what's the charred pepper? Why am I having? Chipotle powder and some chopped up cilantro and a little bit of garlic and you mix all that up and then you just

slather that on there and then sprinkle some cohito cheese if you don't have that feta cheese and then just eat the hell out of it. So good. Now what Sam the cooking guy did what got us interested in this was he made a

street corn hot dog where he took a hot dog and put it on the griddle and wrapped it in bacon and then just cooked it and it got all plump and the bacon got cooked and then he stuck that in a toasted bun with some of that butter with the chili powder on it and then poured the corn all over it, you know, cut it off the cob and, oh, God, that was good. Oh, yeah.

So, anyway, what were we talking about? So charing stuff. When you char things like that, you're not burning it all the way through. So some of the nutrition will remain, particularly if you're just charing the vegetables on the outside, there will be some on the inside that will remain. but vitamin B1 is the most susceptible to thermal degradation. It's the most heat labile. And then on to his nitrosamine question, which is really what that is.

He's talking about charred meats. When you char stuff, you can generate some nitrate byproducts, and one of those are nitrosamines. Let me look up charred meat really quick. Chard meat and cancer. I'm looking this up on PubMed.gov. And here we go. So meat-related compounds and colorectal cancer. Let's look at that.

Let me see. See, talk about pulling up. Okay, here we go. There we go. Colorectal polyp type and the association with charred meat consumption. So consumption of greater than three servings. of chard meat per week was associated with HPs. What are they saying in HP is?

It's some kind of polyp. Where is it? Oh, hyperplastic polyps. Okay, that's not that big of a deal, but not adenomatous or other types of proximal polyp. So a hyperplastic polyp is just one that is benign. It just grows out of the mucous membrane. of the colon, but it's not pre-cancerous.

Heavy cigarette smoking was associated with an increased risk of colorectal adenomas. So, you know, we say quit smoking at the end of every show. I'm 25 years sober now, I think, something like that. And let's see. And that no association with anything else in this particular study. So, you know, charred meat has been looked at for gastric cancer and some other things. Let me see here. But, yeah, I don't have a whole lot.

Maybe we could do something on that next week, Taze. Because we're still in grilling season. Will you leave me a note to get some data on charred meat? We were supposed to do something on something else last week. Yeah, I did it on the podcast, so too bad. But anyway, yes, there is some association that's been suggested in the medical literature. and then you'll see another study that says no, we don't think that there is. I've seen the same thing with cured meats where high cured meat consumption showed increased cancer.

Then I saw another meta-analysis later that said, you know, that brought that into question. So let's do all of that next time. We'll do that as an opening discussion, okay? Okay. It'll be something other than COVID we can talk about. All right. Hey, Dr. Lee, this is Gary in Oklahoma. Homa.

Hey, Gary. Just read the news this morning, Chad McBosman passed away from colon cancer at the young, young age of 43. With a colonoscopy, supposedly not being recommended until 50, what the hell? I know. Yeah, no question about that. What the hell indeed. Same thing with Frank Zappa dying of prostate cancer in his 40s, you know. So here.

here's the new guidelines is 45 to 50 for your first colonoscopy unless you had a first degree relative that had colon cancer and then you go 10 years before that, so whichever one is earlier. So if you had, so like Chadwick Bowes, this was, this really made me sad. I loved that guy. He was awesome. It was such a good actor. I've seen him in other stuff other than Marvel movies.

He was so great in the Marvel movies. movies. But, you know, I loved him in that Thurgood Marshall movie, and he was insane as James Brown. I mean, he was just a brilliant, brilliant actor and had so much going for him as an actor where he were going to be seeing him for the next, you know, 40 years acting. And I was very, very sad about that. And he just seemed like just a, you know, just a great, just wonderful person. So he's 43, so his kids need to get their colon cancer screening at 33 unless there were other extenuating factors. For example, if you have a history of familial polyposis, which is a disease where people are at high risk of getting colon cancer because they've got just a countless number of polyps in their colon. They're getting their colon screening every year. We have a friend that has that. and he has to get colonoscopy every year. And he was the one that convinced me to have my colonoscopy without anesthesia,

which I also wrote about if you're interested in learning about that at all. I wrote a big long thing. I put it on Quora, too, but it's on our website at Dr.steve.com, along with Tasey's one-page baby manual for new parents, just in the search bar in the upper right-hand corner, just put in colonoscopy and it'll come up the dreaded colonoscopy. And I wrote a somewhat humorous article about having a colonoscopy without anesthesia. It's not bad.

But the other thing is I had another friend of ours asked me, well, damn, you know, Chadwick Bozeman was young, what am I supposed to do? I'm not 45. I don't have a family history. If you have any symptoms at all, they will do a colonoscopy on you. and you can get screening colonoscopies done pretty easily because of the Affordable Care Act. They're covered under that. That was one benefit of the Affordable Care Act was covering preventative screening stuff.

But if you have any symptoms at all, change in your bowel habits, dark stools, blood in your stool, painful defecation, any of that stuff will buy you a colonoscopy if you're really worried about it. So just talk to your primary care provider. or talk to your gastroenterologist, see if you need a colonoscopy. But, you know, this is, again, it's like why when I'm 64, which I am now, is my risk of dying of COVID 30 times more than a 20-year-old. But two weeks from now, it'll be 90 times more. So we're making these artificial cutoff. So at 44 and 364 days, you're not eligible for a colonoscopy, but at 45 you are.

You know, it doesn't, it's artificial, so it doesn't matter what age we set it at, there's going to be someone that doesn't meet those criteria that's going to die that we should have, or, you know, could have caught it if we had ratcheted down the criteria. So there's a risk-benefit to society kind of thing by doing that. But this was a tragedy. I wonder if he had symptoms before it happened. I wondered if he had family history of early colon, or early colon cancer, Or was this just one of those tragedies that couldn't have been avoided no matter what you did?

You know, so, all right, check your stupid nuts for lumps. Colon, or sorry, testicular cancer is a young man's disease, and young men are rarely told about that. Quit smoking. All we can do is mitigate risk. Wear your stupid seatbelts. Narcan in the house. You know, in 2020, I think every home should have Narcan. Every home should know the Heimlich.

We saved our kids' life when he was seven with the Heimlich maneuver. Everyone should know CPR. They should wear their seatbelt. Not because I think you're going to have a wreck in case you do. And I think people should have Narcan in the house, too. If you don't know what that is, it's a narcotic antidote for people who are overdosing. You're going to know somebody in 2020 in the next 10 years. in this environment that's going to die of an opioid overdose, either from prescription

medications or because they can't get them anymore because the doctors aren't writing them like they once did. And now they're dying from fentanyl imported from other countries. And you could save somebody's life. Don't be Walter White. And when somebody's dying of an overdose, you just sit there and watch them die. So how do you get Narcan in your house? You can ask any health care provider to write your prescription for it, and in some states, they're just giving it away.

Some pharmacies are giving it away. Look, we ended on a good note. Yes, we did. A very hopeful note. You can save someone's life. All right, and I'm going to ask everybody to rememberstuff.org, dot, doctor, steve.com for all your Amazon needs. Just click through, use it. It really helps keep us on the air.

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