Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 436 - Gout, CBD, Hep C, Cancer Cures (e.g., the Kitchen Sink)

Episode Date: December 25, 2020

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All right, very good. Well, it's good to see you. I'm very interested. You know, that opening that we've done with Bernie and Sid and then this guy, this guy, hang on. Oh, wait a minute. Stop all that. This guy.

Your show was better when he had medical questions. The fact that that fits perfectly with the intro music. So if I, in the intro music, that being this. And I just happened to accidentally just hit it at the same time one day. Your show was better when you had medical questions. I've got the theory. That's hilarious, yeah. Dude hits the post perfect.

If that guy is around, And that was probably called in. That was back when double vasectomy term was here. So, let's try this one. Let me try this one. Hang on. Can you please stop bullshitting and get to the question? That works.

That's pretty darn close too. That works. Pretty close. Now this one is six seconds long. Let's see. Hang on. God damn, this is about as boring as sex with my wife I've got the theory

That's perfect too There you go Let me see I think that's it Now okay we got one more Here's one more You haven't answered a single fucking medical question I've got the theory

That one doesn't quite work He was one tick too long Let me see if I do it a little early He haven't answered a single fucking medical question That works if I do it that way. Anyway, that's hilarious. But we thank all of the people who have called crapping on us in the past. And it was very entertaining.

I love it. But it just happened by accident. And it was like, that's perfect. So we've retained it. And then Bernie and said that was so great being on their show. And that was actually they were talking about me at the end of the interview. Because I'd given them good. information about the coronavirus at the very early part of the pandemic.

I think that was sometime in April. And he said, well, if you, you'd think this guy was some sort of a clown. And he's not wrong. Anyway, all right. No. Hey, don't forget to check out stuff. Dot, Dr. Steve.com for all your Amazon needs. And wine.

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I'm going to do it this time. going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to stick with it. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm working on my second year. I mean, finishing my second year. You've been doing it that long? Holy moly. Love it. And you only have to do it for three months. And after you cancel, you can still use the app. But you lose your counselor. But really, most of the time, you only need the counselor for the first three months. I'm just, I'm just needy. And check out Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. You're listening to Weird Medicine.

Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Kwanza. Happy Boxing Day to our Canadian friends. This is our lovely Christmas show, and we're still just going to talk about COVID-19. But this is going to be all medical questions from you, the listeners. We've got so many just build up because we've been yacking that I thought that as our holiday gift to you, he would actually answer questions for once.

Well, last week was out of hand. It was a little bit out of hand, but that's okay. I had fun. I mean, I don't know how much fun it was to listen to it. Can you please stop bullshitting and get to the question? Okay, fair enough. All right, are you ready? Do it. Yes. You want to talk? Let's do we have to talk about one thing as this mutant strain of COVID-19. Mutant coronavirus in the United Kingdom sets off alarms, but it's important

remains unclear. Yeah. Yeah, so they said it's 70% more transmissible. That sounds like, oh, 70% of people are going to get it. No. No. It means 70% more people will get it. So if the R-sub-0 or R-not of the original strain of SARS-CO-2,

the virus that causes the disease, COVID- 19 is approximately 2.4. So if we take that and multiply it times 1.7, that will tell us what the transmissibility is. So we have our little friend Echo. Echo, what is 2.4 times 1.7? Is she on? There she is.

I think she was taking a nap. Echo, what is 2.4 times 1.7? I already know the answer. I'm just trying to show off. Yeah, good job. Oh, for F's sake, is she doing anything? I think she's, I think she was in hibernation. She's on vacation.

Can you move it so that I can see the ring? Sure. So that, okay, well, she's, okay, just sitting there thinking. So it's four. Okay. So that means one person instead of giving it to two and a half people, we'll give it to four people. So now that increases the requirement for herd immunity to get up to almost 70% from 56%.

So if this strain somehow took over, then we would have a little bit farther to go to get to herd immunity. Now, it only matters if the people who are already immune to the original strain are not immune. to this one. Because if they're not immune to this one, it's a whole new freaking pandemic. Right. And that also means that the vaccines that we have out don't work. There's no evidence that that's the case. In matter of fact, it makes a lot of sense that the vaccine and previous immunity will still hold even with this new strain. Okay. Right. And the other way that it would matter is if it was somehow more deadly. And again, there's no evidence of that at all. Good. So if it's not more deadly and immunity is the same, you know, the vaccine works against it.

If you had it before, it works against it, then this isn't a big deal. We'll just have to get to herd immunity a little bit quicker and it'll take a little bit farther to get there. And that's if this becomes the prevalent strain. We don't know that. A lot of times viruses will mutate. And when they mutate, they become less deadly. Right. They'll trade transmissibility for lethality because that really, the vaccine doesn't want to kill us.

It wants us to transmit it to somebody else. So if we die, you know, then it can't transmit itself anymore. Not that it's thinking about anything, but if you just think about the natural selection of a self-replicating nanomachine, if it gets into a host that can't transmit it to anybody, it didn't do it any good. Right. Okay. So, we'll see. We shall see. In about a month, we'll know the answer. Good. Okay. Ugh. Yeah. Yeah, don't worry about it.

Okay. Number one thing, don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. Now, Scott, you had a mug in front of you that was made by a friend of yours. Yeah, a buddy of ours from Murphy's bird named Daniel. He made us some pretty cool. They are cool. Mugs here. Says, check your stupid nuts for lumps. Except that it's a vacuum, you know, it's one of those vacuum like a Yeti. Yeah.

But it's stainless steel. Yep. Yeah, he's got. And then it looks really cool. Yeah, he's got a cool laser printer that actually shaves that coating off of it and cleans it down to the stainless steel. And it's a pretty cool little mud. So it's stainless steel under the paint and then it just shaves the coating off. Yep, pretty cool, huh?

That's cool as hell. Yeah, man. I got a cup with my. name spelled right that that's like the biggest that's never happen never i still think he should have put tasty on us yeah that was her name in high school tasty so thank you daniel yeah that's awesome does he want us to plug his business or anything or does he want to sell those no no no neither neither no that's just strictly a gift okay all right fair thank you sir thank you thank you check out dr scott's website at simplyerbils.net, by the way.

All right. You ready? Let's do it. Let's do it. Uh-oh. Here we go. Here's what this. Hey, Dr. Steve.

This is Mike from Buffalo. Hey, Mike. I have a question about calories in, like, food, pre-packaged food. Okay. So, real quick, when you're reading the label and let's say whatever it is, a jar case out there is 360 calories. Like, I understand the can't. any bar, whatever. It's usually 360 calories per serving, by the way, not per jar.

So that's how they'll fool you. They'll say 100 calories per serving of salsa, but it'll be one serving is a teaspoon or something ridiculous like that. So you have to be very vigilant about that. But anyway, let's go on. The under 60 calories, you eat the whole thing. But like a jar, casso or any dip of that kind or something of that ilk, you have to like basically lick the jar clean in order to reach that exact amount of calories. Because like, you know, let's say you're scooping out salsa

or whatever. Okay, so like I said, there's always stuff that sticks to the jar or the can in some cases, like maybe a can of refried beans. You don't get all the every single bean out. Yeah. So I'm assuming that means you have to lick the jar clean in order for all those calories to be calculated. All right, thanks, Dr. Steve. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving. Hey, thanks. too, man, and I hope you have a great other holidays that are coming up. Calories,

have you ever wondered why it's, the calories on these labels are always in very round numbers, like 360 or 100. You know that's BS. Sure.

So, first thing is, it's approximate. So, even if you licked the jar clean, and it's going to be plus or minus some percentage of what's in there, that doesn't guarantee you're going to get exactly 360 calories. If it's 360 calories per jar, and I bet it's not. I bet it's per serving quarter cup or whatever.

Calories are units that are used to measure energy. So the calories you see on food packaging are actually kill a calories. It's crazy. There are 1,000 calories. So a capital C calorie will notate it in, medicine as K-C-A-L or kilicallory. That's the amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of one kilogram of water one degree, Celsius, not Fahrenheit. And, you know, every once in a while, you will see energy content and food in scientific circles expressed in kilojoules.

But, you know, it's always going to be calories on packaging in the United States. so back in the day what they would do is put food in a sealed container that was surrounded by water and they called this a bomb calorimeter and then you would burn the food and then measure the rise in temperature in the water around the calorimeter and then that would you could calculate from that how many calories were in that because that's what you're really doing is when you eat food and you extract energy from it, you're burning it just at a very slow rate.

Because it, right? Does that make sense? It's, okay, thank you. I'm just trying to get some, some. Did you like some attention? A little, just a head nod or somebody looking, you know, in my general direction. So I know that what I'm saying is making sense.

We get. Where are you, Dr. Dave? All right. But anyway, that's fine. And so now they use a different system. It's this thing called the Atwater system. And maybe somebody that's a food scientist could call in. They don't determine that any more directly by burning the foods.

They determine it by adding up the calories provided by the energy-containing nutrients. So it's more like a spreadsheet now. You put in protein, carbohydrate, fat, and alcohol, and then boom, you know, and then you have to subtract the fiber and all that stuff. But so when they do that, again, it's going to be approximate, and they're rounding up or down just to make it look like brown numbers on there. And the FDA allows them a certain amount of leeway. Cool.

Okay, so that's how that works. So don't worry about it. Just if you basically, like if you want to be on a 1,200-kil-calorie diet, then if you eat foods that are marked in a way that gets you up to 1,200 kilocalories every day, it's going to be plus or minus. You'll be fine. You're in the neighborhood, yeah. Yeah, okay.

And besides its holidays, enjoy it. Don't count too much. Eat all that green bean cassero. Get all you want, baby. Well, you know, my motto has always been everything in moderation, including everything in moderation, meaning every once in a while you just got to blow it out your ass. You know, I think so. But drink with responsible intent, of course.

Hey, Dr. Steve, a long-time listener. I've been listening to you since I think N.EW is opening an answer. Damn. But I'm a carpenter, 42 years old, and I have two fucked up ankles, one from my first. a bad fall 23 feet and the other one for multiple other breaks. I broke my cows, my right foot. I'm supposed to have surgery

to replace or... I'm wondering, if you fall 23 feet, I guess you've got to land on your feet and you're going to break bones working all the way up into your pelvis. And I guess you've got to roll and you're still going to break bones,

but it's better in landing on your head or your chest. Yeah, heck yeah. We should probably do some research on that. and find out, but you know, a 10-footfall can kill you. Oh, heck, yeah. So, please don't do that. Don't try this.

Don't do the experiment at home, but we could do some research. Fuse my ankle in the next year or two, but the pain's getting pretty bad. And I'm also in recovery for 10 years. I was an alcoholic, a little over 10 years. Never had a problem with pills, but they scare the shit out on me. And I have a CBD oil.

I was wondering if that would help because sometimes foreaddle just doesn't do it for me. Yeah. And I was wondering if they make a CBD oil that doesn't get you high. Yeah, it's a great question. CBD oil doesn't get you high. Nope.

CBD oil is cannabidiol, and the one that gets you high is THC and then other analogs like tetrahydro-canabinol. And but cannabidiol, well, really, there's no high to it. Now, what you've got to be careful of is getting knockoff CBD. Right. Because some of it has too much THC in it, and that will get you high,

and we'll have you test positive on a urine drug screen. So normal run-of-the-mill CBD derived from hemp plants should have no more than like 0.3% THC in it. To be legal to be sold as CBD. That's correct, yeah. Can I add to this, too? Yes, of course. Please do.

For this guy, it real quickly. I also found the answer on how to fall from a high height. Go ahead. First, don't fall. First, right, prevention is the key. Avoid falling from high places. But really quick, this guy, because I deal with this all the time, with guys, there are folks that have drug addictions and giving them alternative for pain

medicine. So the curcumin turmeric formula is great. It works very similarly to an. insed, the CBD, what he just said, meaning a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug, like adrofen or napresum, yeah, so that's, that's one good alternative. The topical thing, Dr. Steve, work extremely well in these instances, which is what I prefer. Volterengel is something that's a prescription medicine works extremely well. Arnica, Arnica is an old homeopathic medicine, works extremely well.

And a lot of these other, these newer topical creams that have capsaic and things, they work extremely well for these types of ankles. Because I get these guys from orthopedics that have their ankles replaced, and these are some of the things we do. And one last thing about the CBD oil, when you eat it, when it's an edible or it's an oil, no effect. But I have heard some people say if they buy it and smoke it like a joint, that they do get a little buzz. So it's carboxillate? I've never heard of that. But, hey, Dr. Steve, it doesn't mean they're getting stung, but they do get a little bit of a funny feeling. So that's just what I've heard of, never smoked any CBD.

But those are some good options. Yeah, it says here, almost all CBD products you'll find have gone through decarboxillation already because apparently it's, well, who knows. I guess they activate the phytocannabinoids those are plant-based cannabinoids because there's endocannabinoids too you know ones that are in some we have that's why we have receptors for pot

is because our brains are already making a very similar a similar molecule well now this this is the worst website oh no okay anyway Anyway, so, yeah, there may be something to that, but I don't, I've never heard that.

And I think that the stuff that you're getting is already decarboxulated anyway. So I don't think heating it's going to do anything. But, you know, it could be a placebo effect, too. Just throwing it out there. I could be wrong, yeah, or they could be getting crappy CBD that's got too much THC and now they're decarboxulating it, you know. From a strip mall somewhere, pop-up store. Yeah, know your supplier. If you're going to buy it, I have talked to several of the pharmacists around here and make sure that they know where it's coming from and that they've seen the data on it and that it's the right stuff.

Now, as far as plummeting from a plane or from 23 feet, this is from a website called The Bright Side and it says even a fall from the first floor can end up badly, never mind one from 33,000 feet. however, Yugoslavian flight attendant Vezna Vulovic managed to survive a fall from this height after her plane blew up in the air as a result of a terrorist attack. Holy crap. Holy crap. That's a bad luck. Wow.

Now, I've heard that a lot of these people who survive falling out of an airplane end up, you know, falling into a forest. And the trees mess them up, but they break their fall because the branches up the top, of course, are not as thick

as they are down low. So you sort of fall through, and each successive stronger set of branches slows you down. Now, you don't want to have your legs spread wide open while you're doing that. That would not be good. So they talk about that. Cannibal. Canterball. Well, I don't think that's a good idea

either. You want to have your legs together and point it toward the ground. So if you fall out of a window, try to cling on anything you can find. It'll break your fall on a few intervals and decrease your speed a bit. If there's canopy in your way, be it plastic or glass, it will help you stop your fall. Yikes.

Oh, God. Wow. Yeah. And it says it might sound like a cruel joke, but try to relax your muscles while you're falling. Don't tense them up. Drunk people. And little kids are those who survive a fall most often.

And that's true. We've seen that. You know, these drunks will fall out of a window and they are, you know, they walk away sometimes. bend your knees but not too much and hold your legs together this way both of your legs will touch the ground simultaneously and the impact will be weaker additionally try to land on the tips of your toes to absorb the force of the impact you'll most likely break your legs but this is the lesser of two evils don't do the following don't land on straight legs yeah I can oh can you imagine just yeah and don't spread them apart yes and don't land on one leg thinking you'll save the other this way. That just sounds horrible. Oh, my gosh.

I mean, I don't know that you can have the correct mindset, though, when you're falling. No, I know. I know. That's right. Now, it says if you fall from an airplane, it will take you three to six minutes to fall from the height of 33,000 feet. Holy cow. Can you imagine? It would take me that long.

The fall itself will have the speed of 120 miles an hour. Unfortunately, the chances of surviving are incredibly slim, but it's still worth trying to save your life. first of all keep in mind people who managed to survive sat in the tail part of the plane well that doesn't help me if I wasn't in the tail part and I'm falling to the ground so if something happens to your plane like it explodes starts falling to pieces in the air first you're going to hear a deafening roar oh geez I don't want to hear all this I don't even want to listen to this anymore I want to see if they had some oh they're wanting you to ride down in your in your chair if you can well you don't have a choice Not at that point, no. Okay, listen to this guy, though. No. There's a guy that Alan McGee in 1943 fell from his aircraft that was flying at a height of 20,000 feet and survived after crashing through the roof of a train station.

If you happen to be in such a situation, remember this advice. Take the pose of a falling skydiver, spread your legs and arms, that way you'll slow down your fall. try to direct your flight, you know, move backward and forward. Don't land on water, even if you're a good diver, because it's just like concrete at that speed. Direct your fall toward a field, plants, trees, or bushes. On the other hand, there's a chance you'll be pierced with it by a stick or a branch. Best alternative would be snow or a haystack. Okay, yeah, I see a haystack.

I'm going to go for it. I'm aiming that way. I'm aiming at a haystack. Okay, listen to this. Oh, Lord. Why does this scare me? much. You know, I would have already had a heart attack.

So it wouldn't matter. What Anthony said that was really true, this was a million years ago, and I realized that he and I think alike, he said that, you know, looking over, say, like if you're at the Marriott Marquis on the 70th floor and you're looking over, the only thing that keeps you from jumping is your will not to do that. That's the only thing. Now, that creeped me out when I thought about it, because that's a, exactly what I think about it. It's like I grip onto it and look over the side and it's like,

God, I hope I don't, for whatever reason, decide to jump. And it's like, why would I do that? But that really is the only thing that keeps you from falling to your doom is that you just don't want to do that. Oh, my God. That hotel is a little creepy. Can we go back to the, can we go back to the tree thing, canopy for two seconds? So I got a guy that's a Vietnam veteran and was a pilot and his helicopter he was flying an helicopter and they took and they got hit and so the way he landed his

his helicopter was he was over he flew into the forest and then laid it down on his ass in first into the trees so the trees slowed his descent down and blades hit it yeah yeah it was pretty crazy yeah yeah yeah that makes sense that makes a lot of sense

there was a 17 year old Juliana Kepke managed to find her way out of the Amazon on jungles after falling from the height of 10,000 feet. Whatever. I can't do this anymore. I'm going to have to leave. Next question.

Don't they make heavy things about penises or poop or something? As scary as this is driving into a lake with your car. Yeah, well, don't do that. No, I know. But what if you're, or going over a bridge and the bridge is out, but you don't know it. Yeah. When I was in Vermont, I had a four-wheel drive vehicle, which you do, but I don't. I was driving to the hospital on these back roads like an idiot because I thought, well, I can get there faster.

I hit a bridge and there's, you know, a little railing on either side. And then there's river, maybe 30 feet down on both sides. Hit the bridge, totally black ice, start spinning. Nothing I can do, you know, it's just black ice, no friction whatsoever. I start spinning. I did 360 and then I kept spinning, did 720. By the time I got, finished the exact 720, I was at the end of the bridge, and I just kept going. And I just said, I just laughed.

What else could you do? Are you kidding me? I just laughed, and I said, I guess this wasn't my day. Oh, my God. Wouldn't you love to have, like, a camera? Oh, yeah. Just had a video, because that would have been, like, insane. Oh, it would have been a viral video for sure.

Oh. But this was way before all of that. But that was insane. Did you soil your pants? It was weird. I was oddly calm. Oh, funny. Now, if I had gone over the edge, I'm sure.

sure the adrenaline would have kicked in, but I was, yeah, I was just oddly common because there's nothing I could do. Nothing you could do, no. You know, I'm either going to die or I'm not going to die. Right. There's no third thing. Isn't that wild? Yeah, it's crazy.

Chew. All right. That's good. I held it a CBD question. We end up, oh, that's because he fell out of the tree. Oh, yeah, yeah. Anyway. Hey, Dr. Steve.

My name's Mike, New Jersey. Hey, Mike. I was just wondering, every time I get blood work done, I test positive for Hep C. And then when they send it out, for further or confirmation, it comes back negative or it lays dormant or something in my system. I don't understand exactly, but they say I'm not positive for Hep C once they send it out for confirmation. Right.

You please, if you understand what I'm trying to say, explain that a little better than me. Absolutely understand it. You phrased the question perfectly. So they do this hepatitis test on him and it's positive. then they send it off and it's negative and it keeps going back and forth and back and forth. Now, why is that? Because the first test they're doing is an antibody test.

The second one is looking for active infection. And he had it and his body cleared it. And so he's got a positive antibody. And then when they send it off for confirmation to see if he has, you know, a reactive, you know, viral protein, then it's negative. So you had it at one point, and your body cleared it. So you don't have the infection anymore, but you'll always have the antibodies, and that's just basically it.

All right. Cool. Thank you. Hey, Dr. Steve. Just wanted to know once someone gets the vaccine, will we have to still continue to wear masks? That is such a great question, because in a perfect world, where everything worked according to logic and science, the answer would probably be no.

However, there is a caveat. We don't know that the vaccine prevents infection. We think it does. If it doesn't, it just makes you asymptomatic, and now you become an asymptomatic carrier, then, yeah, you got to wear the mask. So we'll find out in the next few months. They vaccinated 10 times more people in the first day

or, you know, the first partial week with this vaccine than they did during the whole three, nine months of trials. They got 20,000 people in the trial. I think they did 275,000 people. And it's probably in the millions by now. So we're going to start seeing those real rare complications, if there are any. But also we'll get to test things like this.

Through our surveillance, are we finding people that got the vaccine that are asymptomatic, but they're shedding virus? If that's the case, then, yeah, they're going to still have to wear a mask until it's over. Gotcha. When is this going to be over? Well, Tacey, that's an excellent question. So let me tell you something. If we can get 90% of people in this country to be immune, either through vaccine or through natural immunity.

Some people are naturally immune, and then that's hard to test for. and then other people have had it. And that's getting harder to know because someone that had it in March might not have antibodies anymore, but they're still relatively immune. Right. So, but if we could get 90% of people

to be immune to this virus, then remember we talked before, if we get to herd immunity, where it's, you know, our sub-T is 0.9, where 1,000 people would infect 900 people. Then 1,000 people would infect 100, which would infect 10, which would infect 1.

And now you're seeing a huge decrease in cases. So if we can, this thing can be over quickly, if we can just get immunity up to that 90% level. And the way to do that right now is not through infections. I think we're still only at 5% of the country. Let's go to COVID.stoutlabs.com. COVID. Dott Labs. That's our friend Daniel Stout, who's been on this show.

He is a computer genius of world-class caliber. And we can get on his website and see just how many cases we have in this country. Okay, 18 million cases. And that is, let's say, 18 divided by 350. We'll just say 18. Let's see if I can do it. A echo. Echo.

Oh, you dumbass. Hello. is wrong with her echo echo all right it's fine there she is it's too late oh just what's 18 divided by 35 by 350 hold on you have um this I don't want to hold this whole thing 0.0 514 okay so so 5% right 5% of the country so 95% of people still haven't had a case now that doesn't mean only 5% have been infected but let's just say it's five times that people just go crazy say five

times the number of people have been infected that have been had cases that's still only 25% we're still 75% of people haven't even been exposed to this virus yet so we're not going to get it that way so we're going to have to do it through vaccination

and there you go there you go and the other thing is you'll have to wear a mask until they get us like a scarlet letter or something and says, I don't have to wear a mask because I had the vaccine. Now, that would be a way to encourage other people to get the vaccine, although there will be people who will counterfeit those,

say, well, I ain't going to get that vaccine, but I ain't going to wear no mask, never. And then they'll wear the scarlet letter saying that they got the vaccine when they're a damn liar. You know, Tennessee is really shining as far as number of cases. Boy, we are. Falls for life. Yes, we are. Well, let's just look at that. So on COVID.statlabs.com, you can go to U.S. data.

Yikes. We're way up there, baby. Well, we are not up as, okay, so this is total cases. Tennessee, 534,000, Florida, 1.2 million, but you got to do it by population because, you know, Florida's got a bigger population than we do. Let's do cases per 100,000. There we go. There you go. Now, cases per 100,000.

Now we shine. 7,000 cases per 100,000. New Jersey, 5,000, Florida, 55, and New York 44. Now, though, let's look at deaths per 100,000. And I'm just using these four states. Interest, New Jersey, number one at 205. New York, 188. per 100,000, and then Florida, 94, and Tennessee, 90.

So we have more cases per 100,000, but we've got vastly fewer deaths. It's half, half the number of deaths per population than New York and New Jersey do. Okay, so check out this website. If you really want to play with some numbers and look at some things, very interesting. He's done an amazing job. And just looking at the curve of total cases in the United States over the last 300 days is quite outstanding. Because you see that first, the first little bit, and then you see the first wave, and then it comes down a little bit, and then you see this second giant wave, which I really call it third wave, because I think the first segment was really the first wave. But anyway, we could argue that all day.

all right hey doctor from Ohio hey this RNA COVID vaccine just stop medical

from doing something like this with cancer you know making the body recognize it as a foreign body and it give yourself a bill

great I'm going to give him one of those good we've talked about that before he's absolutely right cancer is a failure of the immune system to properly surveil its surroundings. And we haven't talked about this in a while. One of the analogies I'll use is you've got a serial killer living in your neighborhood.

And every day you drive by this guy and he's out there pruning his roses and mowing his lawn. Hey, how you doing? How you doing? Clean the South Western. And then you don't, the villagers don't come with the pitchforks and the torches until one of the, the people that's in the basement escapes and says, hey, this guy's got a dungeon of horrors in there.

And then we go and burn the house down, right? So the same thing is the case in the situation where you have cancer and the immune system is just going right by. All these white blood cells that are supposed to be

surveilling or doing surveillance on the body are missing it. And the cancer is fitting in to the society inside the body well enough that the immune system just doesn't notice it. And it isn't until we use special techniques to try to open up those tumors to the immune system

so that they can see it as foreign. And so one way to do that is to take out some tumor cells and process them in the lab. take out white blood cells from the patient and have them be exposed to each other. When you start seeing the white cells start to attack the cancer cells after you've manipulated them with whatever manipulation you do, then you inject them back in. They start to divide, and then they say, oh, wait a minute, that tissue over there isn't right, and then they go in and take it out.

Cell by cell, molecule by molecule, they can do a perfect job if they are just made aware of it. So if you go to Dr. Steve.com and click on on the upper right hand corner, non-sudoscience cancer cures, there's places or articles in there that I've culled from the literature, just a few of them, just so that you could see where exactly this is being done. There's another thing called the abscopal effect, and the abscopal effect generally seen in people with melanoma. Let's say you've got melanoma, you know, metastatic tumor in your hip. and you irradiate it and then three weeks later the patient comes back all their melanoma's gone

everywhere in their body and what happened well when they irradiated the hip that tumor started to break down and now the immune system could see the proteins in a different configuration in a different way

and now they could recognize it this is bullshit what are you doing here and it's just as if the victim comes running out oh they're holding us in the basement and and

And then the white blood cells become the villagers with the pitchforks and the torches and just tear down the house. Still incredible. Yep. Just incredible. So we're, the age of chemotherapy is coming to an end. And there will be a time when just like Scotty in Star Trek 6, no, not Scotty, Bones in Star Trek 6. Was that the one where Chekhov fell? Nerd alert.

Nerd alert. No, it was, oh, it was the, it was the voyage. home. It was number four, the whale one, where they went back in time. You mean, there's been more than one? Yeah, and then, shut up. You're an ass. And then Chekhov fell, and he had a subarachnoid bleed, and they were going to take him to

the hospital, and Bones was like, no, no, no, you primitive assholes. And he held the little, that thing over his head and it just repaired it. That's the way we're going to look back at chemotherapy in not too many years. I used to say 100 years, than 50, then 25. They're actually

marketing some of these some of these therapies right now. Good. That's incredible. That is crazy. All right. Non-sudoscience cancer cures. Check it out at dr. steve.com.

Uh-oh. Oh. You want to class this. Anyway, had an employee yesterday filling with his hand. Stacey. Stacey's Deloge, everybody.

How are you doing there, Space? Hey, this is kind of I don't know how you want to class this. He had an employee yesterday, fiddling with his hand, and it looked like it was just a infected hair follicle. He squeezed on it real hard, and when it shot pus out of it, it got in his eyes. Oh.

So grabbed him, got a bottle of saline out of my go bag, and washed his eyes out and everything. What else do we have to worry about other than pus getting in your eyes? You know what it is from your own body. Just curious. that I say Boy So

I One time I've told this story before But this is a good place to do it Was opening up a lesion On someone's On someone's back And it was a big dome-like lesion

It was really tense And I said This one's probably going to There's going to be a lot of fluid In there you can tell And I was not properly protected I thought I was I just thought if I just put the number 11

scalpel in there that the number 11 scalpel is one that you that you incise with. It's like a triangle shape. And if I just put the edge in, it would be no problem. Well, that's what I did. And it was under such pressure that at least a half a cup of pus came spewing out,

covered up my glasses. Thank God I. I had my glasses on. But when something surprises you like that, what do you do? You go, ah! And, of course, with your mouth wide open, you get a mouth full of pus. So... Gross.

Yep. It's still better than falling out of a plane. Yeah, it is better. Much better. Better than falling out of a plane. And there were no untoward effects other than the fact that it made me kind of sick to my stomach. But I didn't get sick from it. Most of those kind of boils.

or carbuncles or fur uncles that are under pressure like that, most of the bacteria in there are dead. The pus comes from not only bacteria multiplying, but the body recruiting white blood cells. And some oil and stuff in her too, probably. Yeah, yeah. And just broken down fat and it's just disgusting. But most of the time the bacteria in there will be dead.

And you can culture stuff out of there sometimes, but a lot of times I've cultured abscesses and they were just sterile, just sterile abscess. So if that was the case in this guy's case, then the only thing he has to worry about is just the sort of direct irritation from the pus. If a day later he's got red, the whites of his eyes have turned bright red, well, now he's got a bacterial infection in his eye. He's going to need some antibiotics for that.

All right. I thought Stacey was going to say he sucked the pus out of the guy's hand to save his life for something. ghoul, but no. Yeah. No, that's that old joke where, you know, the guy gets snake bit on the end of his penis, and the only way you could save his life is to

suck the poison out, and the guy says, dude, you're just going to die. I think I might have asked you this question before, but if, when you're blood's in your body, is it red? I've heard a theory where, I'm not saying it's blue,

but you look at your veins and they're blue, and I don't know, both red mixes with the color of your vein and makes it look blue. But is that something where oxygen hits it and it turns red? Kind of. Oxygenated blood is brighter red than non-oxygenated blood, but they're both red. And if you look at them, you can really tell the difference. Like if you draw, make a mistake and draw blood from an artery, it is a really bright, bright scarlet color like Tacey's iPad. And if you draw it properly from a vein, it's very, very dark.

And in a dim room, it would look black. So now, just exposing that to oxygen will not create a bright red blood. It has to be done cell by cell. And the only way that our body is able to do that is by passing blood through the capillaries of the lungs, where oxygen is then transmitted from the outside of the body to the inside of the body. and that makes that real bright red blood as oxygen attaches to hemoglobin. And there's all these interesting dynamics, physical dynamics, that have to do with how oxygen is absorbed onto hemoglobin and how it's released.

And it's beyond the scope of this discussion, but it is fascinating. But the reason your veins kind of look blue, it's not really blue, But it's just the way that the skin and the vein reflects light because you're passing light, white light, through the skin, bouncing off the vein, and then coming back through the skin again. And it strips off some of the red wavelengths and what's left is just sort of blue. Blueish-looking, yeah. So it looks bluish-looking. Anyway, all right. Good question, though.

Yeah, it's an awesome question. Love stuff like that. I go to a pain management doctor and I was told like if you were to put like hemp oil or if you would use hemp oil that it would actually register as using marijuana. We answered this. Let's see if he's got a, his question is a little longer in this. Let's see if he's got a little more to it. But I was also wanting to find out also alcohol, like if you were to.

Let's answer the CBD thing. Yes, what a lot of the pain clinics will say is if you can do CBD, but if you test positive for THC, you're gone. They're going to discharge you. And then you're left with nothing. And this, in 2020, when you have the kind of issues that we have and doctors have been blamed for this opioid crisis, and we obviously, particularly in the 80s, bear some culpability in this

but a lot of doctors say well I'm just not going to write them anymore and not just doctors but all providers, nurse practitioners and PAs too and so in a situation like that if you lose your pain management

physician nobody else go write anything or your pain and management provider it's going to be very difficult to find somebody else to start over with you again because the second they find out you were discharged for cause that's it So follow the rules

And if there's any chance That you could get the boot because you went Because they don't care Hey, I bought it from this place And it was fly by night It said CBD but it had too much THC in it They don't care

No even if it's a reputable Even if it's a pharmaceutical grade CBD oil They still can if they choose to Discharge you for their practice Right well if they find out about it But I'm saying if they You're more likely to test positive For THC from fly by night

CBD than you are from the real stuff that has 0.3%. But it really depends on how sensitive the assay is because there's some really sensitive assays out there. But I don't think anybody doing routine drug screening can detect the THC that's in CBD. But that doesn't mean you're cool. No.

Because you don't know. Right. Unless you do the assay yourself, you put it in a GC mass spec and see that the THC level is low enough to be below detection. you could be hosed. Yeah, and those people, you know, because we deal with that every day, too. People are scared to death of taking CBD oil, which may benefit them.

But they're scared to death because it's like if there's only one group of people that will help them with their medications. The pain clinics need to ease up on this some, in my opinion. That was what I was going to ask. So if with marijuana being. Awesome. More accepted. With it being more accepted. And legal in certain states.

I mean, are many people loosening up on it? My rule is, you know, I work at the Cancer Center, and my personal belief is that THC should be legal, and it is legal in pharmaceutical form as long as it's synthetic. There is a drug called drinabinol. It's basically lab-derived THC. What isn't legal in our state is THC derived from plants. you know, extracted from plants. But I believe it should be available, particularly for cancer patients. And hospice patients, why would we deprive them of anything that might help them?

And the data is overwhelming that it's helpful for a lot of people. So I think if the pain clinics want to be in control of this, then they should sell their own CBD and then give people a pass if they have a very low level of THC. in their urine now. They could tell them, if it's above a certain level, I'm going to know you're doing something naughty. But Dr. Steve, don't you think, and you can speak to this? I'm probably going to answer yes to this. But, you know, don't you just think as a pain medicine prescriber,

if you had the option to give someone CBD or even, you know, a little bit, instead of, instead of a fentanyl patch, you know what I mean. Or in addition to even, you know, make that other stuff work better. I mean, that's, to me, it's a no-brainer. Yep, me, too. I don't get it. It's so much, I mean, it would be. I don't get it.

For the providers, it would make their life so much easier. And the pain management people, they could say, look, we don't want you doing CBD out on the street. Here's the brand that we have vetted, and you have to buy it from us. If you buy it from us, then we'll give you a pass if you have a low-level THC. They'll make money. The patients will be happier. And don't rip people off. I mean, sell it to them to reasonable.

And there's pharmaceutical grade. Of course, there is. It's good stuff. So, I mean, it's just, it's just lack of, I guess, maybe education, maybe to the providers or the, not any of providers, I wouldn't say. I would say the government. To me, it's political. Well, marijuana is bad. It's just bad.

And CBD's the same damn thing. Yeah. All right. Damn hemp. Hemp plans. Anyway, I'll see. Next question. You know, your hands, or hand sanitizer.

if you would use that with that register? No. Also with alcohol? No, but you know what will? If you're diabetic and you have a little distension of your bladder, a little what we call neurogenic bladder, it doesn't even always have to be that. But if you're diabetic and you have a lot of sugar in your urine,

you can ferment it, and people will have alcohol show up on their urine drug screen that have never touched a drop in their life. Or could even be actually intoxicated. I don't know about that. Did we have a call? There is that auto-intoxication syndrome. That's in the bowel, that's not from the bladder.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we had it a long time ago. Yep. So you can be peeing out, you know, basically homebrew. Oh, that's gross. Come on. It's tasty, though, taste.

I'm kind of afraid to use it. I don't want. Okay, anyway, yeah. And so you're okay on that one. Just don't drink him. Hey, what's going on, Dr. Steve? Okay. He didn't do them pretty well

Oh I missed it we missed it Okay wait a minute I get it okay I get it Ugh It's the holidays Slip right through it did you Slipped right through what he was going for Okay here we go

Let's now let's start over Hey what's going on Dr. Steve Hey man Yeah how are you doing Are you doing all right? I'm doing pretty well Good good thanks man I'm glad

What's got Uh, I'm guessing about keto diet and gout. Uh-huh. I'm guessing from eating, you know, the high protein and also eating, you know, the low carbs and, you know, such carbs, the green carbs and asparagus and other, other types of green vegetables. Um, can that cause gout? If so, what could I? add in to keep that from happening. All right, Scott, you're the gout expert in this place.

Well, I'll tell you, first of all, I would identify anything high in purine, so asparagus is going to be off the table, you know, shrimp and things like that. But he can eat other things that do not cause gout flares, again, avoiding eggplants, avoiding red meat. And certainly, unfortunately, I think beer is. probably a culprit in this, too. But he shouldn't be having, if he's in true keto diet, he shouldn't be having beer anyway.

Yeah, true. Yeah, just lay off the asparagus, lay off the things that say high in purines. Yeah, so do you think the labels say high in purines? No, he's going to have to do his own work. There you go. Like it's shrimp, asparagus, some of these other things are high in puretines.

Just don't eat them. Yeah. Just don't eat them. Trust me, it makes a big difference. Yeah, so for people who don't know, gout is this. really painful form of arthritis that happens when you get

uric acid in the blood that causes crystals to form in the joints. Painful doesn't even begin to discover it. It's some of the worst pain. And it's so bad that when people have it, say, in the joint of their big toe,

they can't even stand to have a sheet laying over it. That's how bad it is. So when you break down these chemicals called purine, which occur naturally in your body, but they're found in certain foods. You break it down, you make uric acid,

and then uric acid is eliminated from the body and the urine, but some people get this high uric acid level. Now you can get a high uric acid level two ways. One is you either make too much or number two, you don't pee out enough. There's no third way. So you're either an overproducer or an under-execreter, and most people are under-execreters,

but you can treat them kind of the same way. Tase, you got any insight on, on any of that? Nope. Okay, fair enough. So one thing you want to do is being overweight increases the risk, but I've seen skinny people with gout too. But that's that sort of gourmand's disease.

You know, you think of the big, you know, big obese person, yeah, the kings and stuff having gout and stuff. But the kind of meats that you want to avoid are organ meats, which for me isn't hard, liver, kidneys, sweet breads, that kind of stuff. Now, red meat can be a problem, so just, but you want to limit beef, lamb, and pork, but chicken is pretty okay. And then fish is mostly okay except for tuna and sardines and anchovies, but then, as Scott said, shrimp. But regular, regular fish should be okay. Yeah, white fish is fine, salmon's fine, should be.

And Scott said asparagus, the other vegetable that's very naughty as spruce. It's disgusting. Asparagus is disgusting. You know what you would say it's disgusting because your mother is disgusting. It's the most nastiest. It's not. It is. Your mother fed you canned asparagus and for that she should go straight to hell.

Shit. No wonder she thinks it tastes like... You know, I love asparagus, but I won't eat it. I love asparagus, but I will not eat it. Because it's nasty. Or he has gout. Yeah, I don't... You're better off without it anyway.

I would love to have a plate full of like eggplant and asparagus. Now, I love egg spinach. But then you'd be willing. Well, you remember GVAC had to carry me out there almost one day because I had to gout my ankle. Yeah. Of course, it's been a long time ago. You know, I'm looking at this place, and it says that there are studies showing that

vegetables high in purines like asparagus and spinach don't actually increase the risk of gout. Oh, wow. Isn't that interesting? No, I'll be happy to look that up. Yeah, look. See what you can find on that. That's stuff I love to eat. Because they're saying the meat and seafood does, but the high purine vegetables shouldn't

be a problem. Now, alcohol is a problem. Sugar is a problem. Vitamin C may help lower vitamin vitamin, sorry. Uric acid. Uric acid. It's just been a long day. And drinking coffee in moderation may be associated with a reduced risk of gout. Yes. And there is some small evidence that eating cherries is associated with reduced risk of gout. Maybe I'll tell you some of the other things. So just look up gout diet. I'm looking at Mayo Clinic right now. I say sedentary lifestyle too, sitting around your ass and being sedentary.

Just letting blood pool on your extremities. Terrible, terrible, terrible. Yeah, okay. So there you go. Yep. So there you go. Base gig, baby. If you got the gouch, which is what they call it where I come from.

If you got the gouch, then you'll want to. And listen, if diet, if diet, management doesn't do it, and it doesn't for a lot of people. There's a medication that you can take. If you're an over-excreator, there's a medication called probenicid that will cause you to pee out more in the beginning. That's a, if you're under-execreater. What did I say? You said they're overproducing.

No, under-excreter, under-excreter, right? If you're an under-excreter, the probenicid will help you pee out more. And you'll have to take this medication called potassium citrate for a while so that you don't form kidney stones. you're going to start excreting a crap load and then it precipitates out and kidney stone. So you need to do this with a physician or a PA or NP who knows what they're doing.

And then the other thing is allopurinol and then what's that other new drug? ULORIC. ULORIC, thank you. I asked Tatea, your voice has gotten so much deeper. But you have a very lovely radio voice. She had a cigarette, she had a cigarette, break it in and go,

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