Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 449 - PA John Returns

Episode Date: April 1, 2021

Dr. Steve and Dr. Scott celebrate the return of PA John, as demanded by our Croatian friend. Topics include: a plug by Stacy DeLoach, variations in urine density, vaccine questions, death to viruses, and more. Please visit: https://www.theestherprojectshop.com stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) noom.doctorsteve.com (lose weight, gain you-know-what) Get Every Podcast on a Thumb Drive (all this can be yours!) roadie.doctorsteve.com OMG the coolest stringed instrument accessory EVER MADE) simplyherbals.net (for all your StressLess and FatigueReprieve needs!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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wacko alternative medicine weirdos at bay. Thank you, Dr. Scott. I pleasure, Dr. Steve. And we also have back from sabbatical, P.A. John, everybody. Hello, P.A. John. Hello, Steve. This is a show for people who would never

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You did. It's funny. So that's cool. So, you know, ask and ye shall receive. Here's P.A. John. We're going to talk a little bit by it. why he's no longer BM John, although I will warrant, or I would argue that you still are BM John, but it's also now you're getting back into medicine, so that's a cool thing as well.

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Check it out, noom. Dot, Dr.steve.com. And then check out Dr. Scott's website. It's simply herbalstotnet. So, yeah. So, P.A. John, good to see you, man. It's good to be here. It's been a long time.

We started this together 15 years ago. 16. Maybe almost 17. I think we're going on our 17th year. Right? Yeah, 17. Because we started in 2004. We did our first show, I think, 2005.

Wow. I know the first time I came over. So 2005, 2,000, let me do Howard Stern math. So 5 plus 5 is 10 plus another 5 is 15. Oh, and then another 5 is 20. What the hell? That can't be right. We haven't been doing this 20 years.

That can't be right now. 15 and then 17, right, plus 2. Yeah, because I had just gotten married when I first came over here. Doing Howard Stern math. You heard him do math. It's pretty funny, actually. But sometimes I wonder maybe he really doesn't know how to do. do math but um it's been a long damn time since we went to that first opium anthony show right

and they played your dicks all shit my dick's all shitty from your asshole you remember that yeah they were getting ready to do pat duffy's uh prostate exam right and i do a prostate exam on this um uh intern right and then the whole rest of the night i'm like the AMA's coming after me they're coming after me. If they hear this, they're coming after me. I made Sam make sure that, because Sam Roberts was a little intern then. I said, please just don't get my face in here. Right. And if you remember, I was sitting there and they said, you know, can you do a prostate exam? It's like, yeah, but, you know, you need gloves and then clunk, Than Brian put down a set of gloves. A box. A box. A box. And then I'm like, well, you have to have lube. And then clunk

on the other side, they had lube all ready to go. So they had to have. Well, he's a setup. Yeah. Or you just wonder what they did in the studio. Yeah. Good point, because the lube actually wasn't clinical lube. It was sex lube. Right.

It was all kinds of like cherry and grape flavored lube. So, anyway, it was funny. Yeah. That was amazing to think that far back that, yeah, it was something that we did. Travel to New York and try out a radio show that. But you remember we walked out. after doing that radio show and Anthony said that's the best first show I've ever heard and it was pretty triumphant. We were feeling good about ourselves. We walk out of the West 57th Street and we

looked up and there's the Parker Meridian. And you and I both said, so we need to talk to them about maybe getting a condo up there. Right. Which condo should we get? And then we did the next two years for free. Right. And then they started paying it. And I kept saying, I don't even want, you know, I don't want opi money. I would settle for Sam Roberts money. And in the end, I was like, well, I would settle for Riley Martin money. He was one of the whack pack guys on Howard's channel that was, you know, had a show every week. Right.

I think he got 400 bucks. I would have settled for that. Right. Nothing. No. Well, a little bit of something. Yeah, a little bit of something. But, yeah, definitely not the, uh, not what's going to.

to put us uh not the condo at the park or meridian exactly well we had all kinds of big dreams we had a lot of fun though this this business is just uh like yeah we did oh we had a great time i mean please don't don't think that i'm complaining about that it's most fun ever and this is still fun right but uh the radio business has kind of gone to hell because even if you get on a Because I've been looking at maybe doing a terrestrial show with syndication and stuff like that. You're lucky if you can make $35,000 doing that. Right. So, you know, it's almost like, why would we do that?

I mean, I'm not poo-pooing $35,000. But to make money, when you look at Opie and Anthony, we're making millions at one time, you know. It is amazing. Yeah. You know, I was approached by a gentleman that had to have been 70, seem to be 70, 80 years old, selling ads for the local radio station around here for the business act. I've dealt, okay. Yeah. And I thought, I can't believe that he's still working, selling ads, and he said he'd been with the radio station for 40 years.

Yeah, and they're getting like $25 to $50 an ad a lot of times. Right. There was one syndication deal, and, you know, this person that I knew that was looking into it said, well, how much are they billing out? Because it was a sharing thing where you got some of the money. And they said about 75,000. It's like 75,000 a month. It's not so bad. You could do okay.

And it was 75,000 a year. Right. So it's like, and then you have to share that. And then if you have a co-host, you've got to share that again. And, you know, it's, so it's kind of a rotten business. business going to be in TV like Matt Iceman right I thought you're going to get it as a TV show well we had okay we were going to do this medical myth busters thing and we were going to do it with Bobby Kelly oh yeah yeah and we kind of we got a proposal in and we got some people looking at

it and then it was like Bobby I can't take 12 weeks off you know to make 12 grand you know if we're going to do this and I'm going to put my job in jeopardy I I have to have real money. And he was like, well, then we can't do it because this is what you do, is you do the first year and you eat shit. And then if it takes off, maybe you'll make some money off of it down the road. Right. It's like, you know, at the time, Liam was seven and Beck was six, and I just couldn't, I couldn't put them in that kind of jeopardy. Right.

You know. Now, one of the TV shows I still think would be awesome is this Texas crew was. looking at doing a show with my mother-in-law, and they were going to call it the 50 states of Big Joe, and they were going to take her around the country and, like, maybe take her to Mardi Gras in New Orleans and, you know, just stuff like that. And it would be like insomnia, or insomnia,

or insomniac, whatever the... Insomnia, yeah. Was it insomniac? Yeah, the show. With Dave. Yeah, with Dave Attell. Yeah, right. Except to be with Big Joe. would go and experience some thing. And, you know, she's just so goofy and a malaprop and just dumb.

And it would have been hilarious. But she's hilarious, though. That's the damn thing. She is genuinely funny. Right. And they'd have to run subtitles because half the country wouldn't be able to understand. Yes, they would. They'd have to do some translating.

But Tacey vetoed that. She said, well, they're just going to make fun of her, which is true. The TV people wouldn't have, but the, you know, the country would have made fun. And she just would have to stay off social media. Well, hell, she doesn't know how to. She doesn't know how to do it anyway. No, she tries to send Tacey a link and she just types Tacey in her Facebook. She thinks she's sending Tacey something.

Oh, my. So, anyway, good old Big Joe. She's something else. She is some. All right. Don't forget Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. And I was going to plug your business, P.A. John. but you're not in the beer business anymore.

Nope. Neither are we. Nope. Right. So you want to talk about it at all, or do you want to talk about transitioning from that back to going back into medicine? Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, it was a, boy, oh, it was an adventure, five years.

Yeah, it was an awesome place. Dedicating everything you had to it and then not ever getting a paycheck. Yeah. And let me just say something about P.A. John as a brewmaster. We give him a lot of shit about a lot of things, but not. Not about that. He made two, maybe three of my favorite beers of all time. Oh, wow.

And, you know, that's, it wasn't just me, you know, but, and I've drunk a lot of beer across a lot of continents, and P.A. John's, he had this Henry Nitro Stout. It was a nitro stout. And then there was an imperial hop drop that I got all effed up on, but it was so good. God, he was so much. Were you there that night? I don't even remember you being there. You were dancing there with me, man.

I was dancing with you. Oh, my God. It was fun. Yeah, and I kissed my research assistant on the cheek and told her I loved her, but I do love her. She's like my little sister or my kid, but still, you know, not appropriate. And fortunately, she was totally cool with it. It wasn't, you know, a Harvey Weinstein moment. And then the third one was this slice when you made the orange.

Oh, yeah. That was a good one too, yeah. And I've had other orange beers. There's Highland beer makes a Mandarin. Right. And there was another one that I had just recently. None of them rose to the J.R.H. You know, orange slice and then you can come close.

Well, thank you. So I give me one of these. And I hate for that reason that you're not in that business anymore. Right. Now, could you be a consultant to somebody? and teach them how to make some of these things? Because I'm telling you, dude, you've got a lot of knowledge that I just hate for that to just go away, you know?

Right. Well, and, you know, it all depends on what somebody would want to offer. So it would, you know, it's out there. Yeah. I mean, I'll talk to somebody about it. If anybody's listening and you need a damn consultant for, because your bruce are not up to snuff, call. Give me a shout, DR Steve 202 at G.

email.com and I'll pass it on to PA John. I'm about there. Yeah. All right. Good. All right. God damn. This is about as boring as Okay, okay. All right. All right. Okay, fair enough. You want to take some questions, P.A. John? Sure. Number one thing. Don't take advice from some

asshole on the radio. All right. Very good. And that would be P.A. John would be that asshole. Particularly since he's been out of medicine for five years. Give me a good question. Oh, you want a good question? Okay, let me see if we've got an ortho question in here. Oh, no, here's it. I haven't done ortho in five years.

Okay. Here's a good one for PA, John. Hey, yo, Steve Reno, MD. Yes, sir. I was wondering about worms, pinworms to be more specific. Is it true, you can get them from booges? If you're a boogah eater, you can get boogs, and you can get pinworms? No.

I thought those were, like, ringworm, a round worm. for that matter what do they all bring worm and around where and how do you get worms from eating bad sushi I had a cat with worms one time that was fun yeah me too

me too so pinworms are parasitic worms that live in the large intestine of humans and they're usually about a half inch long and when you sleep

the females not the males but the females leave the intestinal tract and they lay their eggs and the skin around the anus and all those little folds in there. And that's how you can detect them. So you've got a kid that's just digging in their ass all the time.

You wait till they're asleep and at night. And how the hell a worm that's living in a dark colon knows the difference between day and night? I don't know unless it's just that the kid isn't moving, you know? And so then take these little paddles that have tape on them and you push it all around their anus. Is this while the kids asleep? Yeah, while the kids asleep.

And they'll sleep through this. I've seen it. And then you look at it under the microscope, and if you see the worms, then you treat them. So, you know, pinworm is the most common worm infection. The United States is usually school-age children, and then preschoolers have the highest rates of infection. and it's usually in schools and daycare centers and stuff like that.

So they spread when an infected person, which is most often a child, has scratched their anal area and the eggs get under their fingernails, and then they spread them when they don't wash their hands after using the bathroom, and then they touch their playmates or their toys. The eggs can be transferred to like nap time bedding and stuff like that.

and they can be inhaled or deposited in food and swallowed. So, and then they can hatch while they're attached to the skin around the anus, and then they move through the rectum into the lower intestine. They're disgusting. I mean, they're just horrendous. So you treat it, you treat the infected person and any infected family members. There's just medication. You just give two doses and it's done.

It just kills the shit out of them. Yeah. I wonder if there's been a decrease in pinworms because of the use of hand sanitizer, or more frequently because of Cairino. That's an interesting question. And why don't we look and see, hey, Scott, look for the incidence of pinworm infection in 2020, 2021,

and just see if that's gone down. Because influenza, the infectious disease guys at our hotel at our hospitals say that they haven't seen any. The one infectious disease guy said he's seen two cases of influenza this year. Right. Now, let me ask you this. Were they also testing for influenza when anybody came in with symptoms? That's a great question because people are saying, well, they're not testing for it.

They're only tested for COVID. No, they're testing for influenza, A and B, COVID, and respiratory syncycial virus. Okay. So at least in our hospital, you get all four tests when you come in. If they're going to test you for COVID, they test you for everything. Right. So if you come in with a febrile COVID-like illness, which we used to call influenza-like illness, but now it's like COVID is the thing. So we've discussed this before on the show, why influenza, if we do this social distancing and wearing the mask and washing our hands, why influenza disappeared and COVID really hasn't disappeared?

We've got COVID under much better control. but it all comes down to the R.0, this number R not, which is the infection rate in an idealized population, what one person, how many people one person would infect? So for COVID-19, it's 2.4. So one person in an ideal population would infect 2.4 people. Measles, on the other hand, is 12. So it's much more infectious than COVID-19. I mean, influenza is like 1.2, so it's half. So these measures that we're doing now are extremely effective for influenza and also affected for COVID-19 because we originally predicted two million deaths if it went unchecked because 60 million people would get it.

About 3% of people would die, something like that. So you'd get about 1.8 to 2 million deaths in the United States. and that didn't happen which is good so we've done a pretty good job but influenza has just gone out into the toilet which tells me we can beat its stupid ass right you know if you could just get people to wear a mask

and use hand sanitizer the infectious disease guys say that they're not ever going back to the way that they did things before that they will do universal precautions with masks and hand washing and droplet precaution on anybody now that's got a respiratory infection in the hospital wow yeah right because yeah you used to just walk in without a

mask or anything yeah huh yeah that's crazy yeah that seems insane right right like going into a store without a mask on because I am I'm a mask guy also I saw some things since I'm getting back into medicine I started paying more attention to those emails I used to get a lot yeah and a lot of them about COVID, obviously, but the ones that I really pay attention to are the ones about COVID and diabetes. Yeah, yes, of course. Not too long ago. People don't remember PA John as a type one diabetic.

Yeah, one in five diabetics, get it and die. Yeah. If you get it as a diabetic, one in five. And then also, I saw one today about the virus itself, those that have been infected as the long haulers or long COVID. Long COVID, yes. They're saying you get it, you start to feel better, and then you really feel bad. Well, some of them are being diagnosed with diabetes.

Interesting. And so this is a guy in Australia that said, hey, this is something that we're starting to see. And so I have said all along that I was a kid, 1975, with a cold, had a virus, and it infected the islet cells. Or as Dr. Scott would say, Islet cells, right? Right. That is correct. Tells I like to lay out on the Island. Island.

I get my suntan. Isla Marada. So that is one of the hypotheses of type 1 diabetes that some viral infection triggers the immune system. And there's some protein on those viruses that triggers either antibody or a cellular response that also attacks the islet cells in the pancreas. because, oh, God, this looks like viral proteins, too. Which makes me super damn excited about this MRNA messenger stuff that they could possibly be able to alter your body to say, hey, you know what, that islet cell is normal.

Yeah. Don't attack it. Quit picking on it. Exactly. That would be cool. Yeah. Now, what they won't do is rewrite your DNA to make you more islet cells, though. Right, right.

I have to be producing them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You wonder if the body is producing them. That's a good question. They just keep getting killed. Like whack-a-mole. There it is. You would think if that were true that people who are on anti-rejection drugs who were type 1 diabetics would spontaneously resolve and we're not seeing that.

So I think what you will end up needing is if you can stop the body from killing your eyelid cells, then we just do an eyelid cell. transplant or a stem cell transplant with stem cells that can differentiate into islet cells and then you're cured. Right. That cure is always right around the corner. We've been talking about this for years that it's just, ooh, we're right there, and you know

they're working on it. Right. Or are they? They are. You can go to clinical trials.gov, and there's tons of trials on this kind of stuff. But I remember when I was... Well, clinical trials, I do it.

Shit. Idiot. All right, but there are lots of trials going on. Yeah, but I have that. People say, oh, I'm not going to PubMed because it's dot-gov, and I don't trust the government. It's like, no, it's just a dot-gov site. You know, there's dot edu.gov.com and, you know, whatever, and dot org.

It should be a dot dumbass is what there should be. There's also a dot beer, I think. Yeah, now there's dot info. Nobody uses any of those. It's still, you know, we all want to use the original ones. But it's, yeah, it's not the government necessarily. They're putting up the money for it so they get to put the dot-gov on there. Right.

But it's just a free exchange of peer-reviewed articles. It's just, God damn. Where else are you going to get that stuff? That you won't get from parlor and Twitter and stuff. What they should do is they should build a building and have all that information in there. You can go get it yourself. Oh, sort of like a library of Congress. Oh, no, that's government, too.

Damn it. Damn it. Mm-hmm. Just can't get away from it. Can't get away. All right. Yeah, I had, okay, here's a good question about quarantining. Hey, Dr. Steve, this is Chris.

Cologne you from quarantine, or I guess more specifically isolation, as I am corona positive. Okay. Okay. He brings up a good point. A good point. If you're corona positive, you're isolating. If you've been exposed to corona and you may come down with it, then you're quarantining. All right, very good. You hear this out because I got the Pfizer vaccine about two and a half weeks ago. So my symptoms are pretty mild, but like I mentioned, I am positive. Yeah. My question for you in the camp seem to find the answer to any place else is what are the risks? of getting the second vaccine after I get through this and I'm able to leave my quarantine. Gotcha.

Looking forward to hearing your... Yeah, no, it's a great question. And the CDC recommends that even if you've had COVID-19, and they don't specify when, not before you got vaccinated or after any of, or in between that you complete your vaccine trial. and they feel that you will have increased adverse reaction. So you may feel crummy because you've already got an immune response and you're going to really generate a heavy one. But they feel that you'll have improved protection down the road if you do that.

Now, there are people that are concerned about this virus or this vaccine. And there's a thing called immune amplification. Have you heard about this? No. I mean, I had the thing up here and then I lost it. The reason why I'm so goofy is because I had my epidural yesterday for my back, which was fantastic, by the way. My back pain is completely gone. I'm walking normally.

I'm not crawling up the stairs anymore. But it has jazzed me up to the point where I got like an hour and a half, maybe two hours asleep last night and I was just wide awake woke up with a raging heart on and Tacey should be glad that she was out of town. But to relieve yourself at 6.30 in the morning, I'd never do

that. That's crazy. But this thing, I don't know if it was the release of endorphins or the decrease in tone in endorphins that were trying to fight off this pain or if it was just the steroids themselves injected right into my spine where that spinal reflex

lives. I don't know what it was, but I've never experienced anything like that. But I also had a lot of reflux or not, well, pyrosis, just gastritis pain. And anyway, so I'm working on an hour and a half, maybe two hours. And you didn't sleep the night before because your back hurts. Because my back hurt so bad, so it's really two days. Yeah. So there are, God, dang it.

Okay, I'm going to have to, let's answer a different question. and I'll look for this because it is a real concern. There were, when they were doing coronaviruses for cats, and then the cats were exposed to a different coronavirus, some of them got so sick that they died. And here we go. I found the article. So this is from the scientist.

It says COVID-19 vaccine researchers are mindful of immune enhancement. And the good news is there's no evidence that any of the coronavirus vaccines in development worse than the coronavirus infection rather than confer immunity to it. The phenomenon is something that scientists are closely monitoring. So there have been, well, I'll read you what can happen in theory, and then we'll show why we think that it's not a problem with this. So most people who can contract this thing called dengue virus. It's a mosquito-borne RNA virus like COVID-19.

They experience mild symptoms or none at all. In some cases, it can cause a severe illness known as hemorrhagic fever with bleeding, abnormal blood clotting, and leaky blood vessels that can sometimes lead to a precipitous drop in blood pressure and circulatory collapse. Curiously, in the 1960s, U.S. Army scientists in Thailand noticed that this life-threatening version occurred most frequently in two populations, either first-time infected babies born to mothers who were immune. So in other words, the kids had the antibody, and children who had once experienced a mild or asymptomatic infection that later contracted the virus a second time. And so the scary scenario began to crystallize the second infection was sometimes worse than the first instead of being the other way around. And a series of studies in cells, animals, and people eventually gave rise to a possible explanation that antibodies created during the first time infection could, under very specific circumstances. end up enhancing the disease rather than protecting against subsequent infections. Research called this antibody dependent enhancement or ADE.

So this is poorly understood, but they did see it in coronavirus vaccines made for cats, which is so people were like, hey, maybe this could happen here. Well, the good news is that we've vaccinated millions and millions of people, and there have been thousands of people who have been infected or re-infected, and this has not happened. Most of the people who have been reinfected had very mild syndromes. And you know some of them probably were infected with other coronaviruses as well, because that was a concern. Well, what if one of the other five circulating coronaviruses that happens with that? And then 10 years from, or, you know, five years from now, we have everybody keeling over that had the vaccine.

Right. And that's what people were worried about. We are not seeing any of that in people who have been infected with other viruses or with this same virus. So that's the good news. And not a single case of anything like this has come to light since we've been vaccinated people. Now, it still is early days. Yeah. So if you don't want to take the vaccine, a lot of people haven't taken it.

but in the age group over 65, it's about 75% of people have gotten the vaccine now, which is great. And we're seeing numbers dropping. We had a little blip there for a couple of days, but then they continued to drop again. So the people who are at really high risk should definitely get the vaccine. And then other people, you know, I'm thinking about whether we should vaccinate our kids. I haven't decided yet. I think that it looks pretty safe, but, you know, do I need to vaccinate my kids if they're not at risk? I don't know.

Let me ask you this. The thing is, is that if they get the virus, then they'll still have the same problem. So it's really not adding a problem by vaccinating. If this phenomenon is there, it's going to happen if they get infected or if they get vaccinated. Yeah, go ahead. What's the age of your kids one more time? 17 and 16. 17 and 16.

So they're in a very low-risk group. One at 18 makes his own decisions. Yep. You, you know, what's the difference in that one year? Yeah. And the other one. Well, that's true. Anyway, so I can't drink if I'm 20, 20 years and 364 days.

But then on that 365th days, I can just go buy, you know, a case of liquor and guzzlet. It doesn't make any sense. Right. It's rules, man. It's the government again. That's right. You've got to draw the line somewhere. Well, there are some people should never drink,

and then some people probably would be okay to drink when they're 35, and there are other people who could drink when they're 18 and be fine. Right. And we just don't have a mechanism to. I was. I know, me too. I was legal to drink in Chapel Hill when I went to University of North Carolina when we were 18. They had all these beer bars, and they were always full of all these 18-year-olds.

Then they changed the law. Boy, oh, was it fine? Yeah. All right. Yeah, so one explanation for why some of the early cat coronavirus vaccines caused ADE weren't using the right vaccine targets or the targets weren't specific enough. This could have produced antibodies that targeted parts of the virus without blocking the specific site on the spike protein, which it used to infect cells. So that makes sense that you could actually enhance a virus if you were targeting the wrong part of the virus because you could maybe even kill. carry it to the cells.

And then, so we are absolutely targeting the spike protein with these MRNA vaccines, and so we should be good on that, if that hypothesis is correct. So, there you go. And interesting. I'm, you know, we've got to be open-minded about this stuff and be honest about it. There are things that we don't know, and we're in early days, but we got to do something about this effing virus. And, PA, John, you haven't been here and you haven't been listening, I'm sure, but I'm

I want them to declare war on all human pathologic viruses. I don't see any benefit to them. Right. And I've had people, I've had biologists say, oh, no, viruses are good. And it's like, yeah, but not the human pathologic viruses. Smallpox, good. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, and then there's also a thing called population control.

Yeah, well, okay. I mean, eventually, how many is too many? Do we need diseases to kill people, or can we just, if we, can we start teaching people to maybe limit how many kids they have. Now, I worked at a, my ex-wife worked at a population center, and their big problem was you go to a third world country. Heck, you know, when you have a high infant mortality, you've got to have a lot of kids, plus you need ready labor

that you don't have to pay. And the only time you can do that is either you take somebody against their will and make it do it, or you have kids, and you send them out to work the farm. You don't have to pay them. Right. So, you know, as countries become more prosperous, they tend to have fewer children. So our goal needs to be to, you know, raise the boat and have everybody be prosperous as much as we can.

What were you going to say about? No, I just don't think, I don't think going, well, you know, there's too many people on the earth, so just let these viruses deal as to go off. No, no. Kind of a natural ability, if you are able to get a vaccine. Yeah. Go for it. If you're not, you've got to try to get it. Well, how did we get rid of smallpox?

We vaccinated people because there were no asymptomatic carriers. That was the thing. You either had smallpox or you didn't. So when you found somebody, you just vaccinate everybody around them until you were creating a firewall. Right. And the stupid virus, that was the other thing was that the vaccine worked very quickly. So, hey, come on in. How much time do you have?

about, I don't know, 20 minutes? Why? You can come in. Come sit. We were talking about you yesterday. We played the East Side Day versus Liam on the show last night or last week. You want to come in? No, I'm good. Okay. All right. Liam, everybody.

Yay. He's very articulate. What? I was going home from playing tennis. You what? I'd go home from playing tennis. Oh, you did? Okay. Well, come in and... No? Okay. He just came in from playing tennis. Well, what did you need?

Huh? What did you need? It's fine. You can just derail the whole show. It's just a, you know. I got $5 says he's hungry. John? But mom came up here and one of them to ask you how long we're going to do.

Okay. That's what it is. We've got 20 minutes and then we'll be done. Okay. Thanks, buddy. Good Lord. Oh, my God. No, I was going to tell John,

I was reading on the Google News the other day that looks like they're hypothesizing that the world's population is going to continue to shrink because of the shrinking size of penises. Really? Yeah. Shrinking size of penis. Mine didn't shrink it. I saw this on the Internet, so it has to be true.

It wasn't on the government website either. Right. So we know it has. The older I get, the bigger and meatier my gets. I think that's called... The more I shave the hair around mine, the better at was. That's what it is, isn't it? That's what is.

I started grooming down there. It's human penis is shrinking due to pollution. So it looks like... What? There's some phallates that evidently are affecting the growth of... Oh, so the phallates are affecting the phallates? Evidently, no, I'm just telling you can't get phallated. So, yes, unless you have a flatus flute, of course.

It's true. Go to fletisflute.com and you can get your whistling butt plug from Dantek, and we have nothing to do with them, but it is, it's got my visage on it. Yes, but I don't get a penny for it, but it is hilarious. Yes, it is. So we may not have to wear out people dying from viruses, just really short, penis is not being able to bury it. So this is true? That's what I'm

written on the internet. It has to be true. I want to see the Google. Small penis equals laughed at by the girl, so not having sex. Or maybe just not able to deposit the sperm. Or you could deposit sperm in the same room and a lot of times

it'll work its way in there. As a matter of fact, I've got I've got a sister-in-law. And sister-in-law. And sister-in-law. law that had

a baby without the penis altogether. So I'm pretty certain that debunks that whole story. Well, they used a turkey baster, right? Pretty much. It's way bigger than a penis. Oh yeah, maybe you're right. Yeah. So I don't know. I was going to see most of them are

I guess. But you don't need a large penis to impregnate somebody. You need to be able to get it into the entroitus. In other words, just inside. Just inside. And you need to be It's just in time, too. So now if that is a, if the small penis is actually a marker for other things, other signs of infertility, now that may be something. So, I mean, maybe they don't have as many sperm, and they may be proud of it, too. I want to see this research.

I'll look at it. No, I'll look at it next time. Okay. We won't get it done this time, but we'll do it next time. Interesting. All right. Let's see. Somebody made a plug.

Well, I've got a question for you. All these are rare ones that, I don't see if they can throw a plug. out for me. Oh, this is Stacey Deloche, everyone. Stacey Deloge going to do a plug for us. Unless I God forbid

that I don't say that I know who that is when he comes in here, his friend will email me and say, I can't stand it when he's on there. He pretends you don't know who he is. It's for a real good friend of mine. They've got started up a

little mission work over Africa. I did not pick the website, but it is the underscore Esther underscore Project underscore shop. And what it is, is they go over to Kenya, Africa. They've partnered

up with several local artisans. They buy their artwork. Pocket books, beads. That's not right. Things like that. Bring it back and they sell it off the website. They are 501c3 and 100% of the proceeds goes back to the little school over there in this village near Kenya.

Okay, he completely got the URL wrong. Is he close? He was close. It's just theesterprojectshop.com, and there's no underscores in there. I'm looking at it now because when I first put it in, I had to, I got nothing. Now, they also have a Facebook, too. You can go to the Esther Project Shop on Facebook. So let's look and see what they've got.

Handmade gifts. Pretty cool. Yeah. Oh, no, it's cool stuff. You know, beaded earrings and things like that, and they're paying fair prices, which is appropriate. And, yeah, good for them. Okay, yeah, we should support this.

It helps you girls learn about hygiene issues and how to watch out for human trafficking and skills to avoid getting trapped up in human trafficking. Yeah, and how, yeah, how to run a business and all that stuff, too. I mean, sorry. The underscore. No, no, stop it.

That's not right. It's just the ester project shop.com and just Google it. But, yeah, we should all support this one. That's good. Okay, Stacey, you got a pass for that one. I put that down as some shitty plug, but it wasn't a shitty plug after all. All right. Hey, Dr. Steve.

It's Jeff Rowe from PA calling again. I got my first vaccine today was Moderna. I was pondering, what if I were to get a second vaccine out of the Pfizer? What would happen? Would I spontaneously combust? But I have two microchips from Bill Gates inside me? But seriously, what happens from a physiological and biological perspective? Yeah, that's a very interesting question.

So there is a trial in the UK that's been launched to see if giving people different COVID vaccines for their first and second doses works as well. And they're working on it now. Official guidance from the Joint Committee on Vaccination in the U.K. says anyone already given the Pfizer or Oxford, as part of the UK's approval of immunization program, should get the same vaccine for both doses. And right now there's no suggestion that this will change,

but they are studying it, and then we should know. Now, both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines basically are coding for the same process. I would not recommend that you do that because we don't know for sure if there are subtle differences in those. So you should, if you get one vaccine, you should get the other one. But we'll know in the next few months whether mixing the vaccines is worth anything. And there may be some people that will get two Pfizer vaccines and then get AstraZeneca after that and then Johnson and Johnson, who knows? Yeah, that's what I was doing.

Well, well, there's a study up at, I don't know about a study. study, but news out of Virginia Tech and UVA, virologists, they've actually paired up and they actually have created a new vaccine that is going to be extremely easy to reproduce and it's much, much cheaper than the ones that are already being produced. The new vaccine platform utilizes a genome-reduced bacteria to express the coronavirus vaccine antigen on its surface. Such a vaccine platform can be manufactured with low cost and existing facilities around the world.

Sure. Which could meet the pandemic. Because they're growing the bacteria. Here's the problem with those kinds of vaccines is they're growing bacteria in a medium. And then you have to clear out the medium. You have to purify this thing. Right. The one thing about the MRNA is you just make it in a vat and there's no eggs.

You're not growing anything. You're actually building it from raw materials. and you can make gallons of this stuff, and you don't have to purify it much any beyond that except to just get the solvents out of it. With this, you've got to get a lot of organic material out of it. Well, it says the new vaccine production platform involves synthesizing DNA that directs the production of a piece of the virus.

But then you've got to put it in the bacterium, and then the bacterium decodes the DNA and then makes the protein for you. So all of these things are you're getting... Yeah, within the body. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So with the MRNA vaccines, you're giving those in there. The MRNA is going into your cells, and then your cells actually make the protein. And it sort of hijacks the cells.

And people say, well, you're messing with your genome. You're not. MRNA never enters the genome. It is simply a set of instructions that tell the ribosomes, which are little manufacturing machines in the cells, what proteins to make. That's it. And then they degrade. MRNA doesn't last forever. It just degrades and goes back.

into its regular nucleotides, and then gets made into other messenger RNA when that DNA needs to be transcribed in the cell. But that's interesting. So the point of that, PA John, is that they can make that in a traditional, you know, factory that is used to doing cultures. Right. Right. So, yeah, cool. That's cool. Now, I think the biggest thing right now is, you know, I made several predictions about COVID-19.

and my model for how many infections we would have was pretty close to being the real, close to being the real model. And my prediction of when we would have a vaccine, and it wasn't any rocket science, I just looked at the phases of these vaccines. You know, when phase one was going to be done, phase two, phase three,

and then give them a month to synthesize the data and crunch the data and then come out and get FDA approval. I said October, and ended up being, you know, November right after the election. So, you know, what was there politics involved? I don't know. But I was about a month off on that.

But where I was really wrong, and I'm still pissed about this, is saying Favapyrivere, if it proved to be effective, would be out in June or July. And still, it's nowhere to be found. Favapiravir is an antiviral medication that you could take at the onset of symptoms. and not go to the hospital and not die. And if we have that, like we have Tamiflu,

except this works better than Tamiflu, this thing is over. We can go back to going to concerts. We can do anything we damn well, please. Because if you get it, you just go and take a pill. And you still develop immunity to it. Well, I just found that Molnupyrivir, it's an experimental antiviral drug that Merck is working on.

And now, of course, Bloomberg and all these, Even though Favapiravir has been around since the beginning of this, they're saying, well, this one could change the fight against COVID. Because herd immunity is great, but you still get people getting sick and still get people going to the hospital and still have people dying. But to have an intervention that is a pill that you just go to your doctor, get a prescription, go to the pharmacy, and pick it up, and then isolate yourself for seven days while you're taking this and you don't go to the hospital and you don't die, that changes everything right then we're back to normal the next day the second that we can show that this is effective enough and the pharmacies have it it's done right we're back to normal vaccine or no so i've always been of the mind that a an outpatient therapeutic is almost more important than a vaccine we need a vaccine too but it's that's the thing that's going to make

everything go back to normal because we've had the vaccine now for a while and we ain't back to normal yet right you know yeah it's certainly better oh so much better yeah I got a phone call a few weeks ago and said hey we have an extra one if you want to come get it so I drove yeah two and a half hours to get it Tacey did that yeah here it is all right and now they've opened it up to everybody she could have gotten it anyway but she's completed her series one day later I got a phone call from a family doctor and said hey we We have it now. And I thought, what the?

Yeah. I drove out of state to get it. Wow. Wow. Okay. Well, okay, let's do some other ones here. Oh, this might be a good one for you guys. Let's see.

Hey, Dr. Steve. I just got my first Moderna COVID vaccine. Good job. And the guy shot it into my upper tricep. Is that a problem? And the second question is, when I go back for the second vaccine, should I request they shoot it into my deltoid instead? Yeah, you're gluteous.

But the tricep just below the deltoid, right, P.A. John? I mean, you know, it's just the right there. Back of the arm versus the back of it versus the upper side of the arm. I am is I am. Yeah, and they're both intramuscular. I don't see that that's a big problem. No. The reason that we pick certain places, like when you do that specific quadrant in the ass,

is because there's no blood vessels and no nerves there. Right. Much less, yeah, much less sensory nerves. Right. But you're not going to be injecting into a vein or an artery, and you're not going to hit a nerve that's then going to cause pain to go shooting down their leg and stuff like that. So that's why we pick that part of the ass to do it. and it's a nice big thick muscle, too.

And then same with the convenience and access. I mean, it's just kind of easy to get that arm. Yeah, it's all kinds of good things. Better than doing your upper quad to have them drop your pants. That's true. It's true. Roll through. Mass vaccination.

Everybody's pants down. Pants down. I can see how that would not go well. I don't think it would be great. Yeah, so the triceps, that's fine. Yeah, sure. And, yeah, you can say, can you please put this in my deltoid, and they'll either do it or they want.

Or they'll look at you and say, deltoid? Yeah, what's the deltoe? Oh, you mean your shoulder muscles? There you go. Is that back here by your wing bone? But that's your wing bone. All right. I don't know what this one is.

Hey, Dr. Steve. Hey. Just hanging out at the Sessions Hotel in Bristol, Virginia, slash Tennessee. Nice. On Valentine's Day and morning. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But I just took a leak, and.

Despite drinking so much water yesterday and having clean urine, the bowl is filled with highly concentrated tea. It's really yellow and really stinky. Yeah. Why is that, doctor? Hope you got to not want it to take C today. Have a big day. No, she wasn't here. She wouldn't have been happy with that scenario this morning.

A.P.A. John, you want to take this one? Because you have to look at... Apparently, he must have drank a little bit more than the night before. I couldn't understand the question. So he drank a lot of water. No, he was thinking that it should have been clear, but it was yellow. And it's just variations in urine density. Your body knows how much fluid it needs, and it will pee out what it doesn't need.

And even, you know, if you're starving, of course, it will continue to pee out stuff because it's still having to clear toxins or actual toxins. and waste products. So, you know, but yeah, just because you're fully hydrated doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be peeing out clear fluid. And first thing in the morning, you'll have thicker urine anyway. Yeah. Yeah, and just because you drink a whole lot of water on one day

doesn't mean it'll be clear. That's right. That's right. So let your body just deal with that. Now, if it's always brown, that could be a problem. Get your liver checked. Anyway, maybe you're drinking a little bit too much. Anyway, thanks always go to Dr. Scott and really appreciate P.A. John being here.

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