Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 462 - The Rise of Tacie

Episode Date: July 8, 2021

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It's a three-month program, and you can be done with it at that point. If you continue, it's up to you. And simply, herbals.net is Dr. Scott's website. So welcome back. So we're doing something a little different. During COVID, much of the content on the Sirius XM show on the podcast were the same,

mainly because I didn't want to answer a COVID-related question for one audience and not for the other because I thought they were reasonably important. But now that that's calming the F-down. Thank God. I know, really. Jeez. Thank God. I thought we could maybe go back to what we were doing before.

And if we do it this way, Tacey can join us again because she's on the road during the week now, which sucks. Well, I don't know that we're going to say that. I'm going to be doing this a lot. No? No. Because if we do this, then we can't, you know, do the other thing that we do on Saturdays. But worry about our son driving? Or that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, our 16-year-old has a girlfriend in another state. I mean, we're on the state line, sort of. But, I mean, he's driving to another state for the first time today. And it was a bit of a traumatic. thing, particularly for the old Tase Meister. Yes, very much so.

Yeah. So. So she's going to be a little distracted, and this might be fun or it might be horrible. It could be horrible. And we will answer any phone call that we receive. Yeah. Now, we are actually on vacation as we do this. So these are going to be brief.

But still same number of ads, though. Yay. Of course. All right. So probably ought to just get straight into it. Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. All right. Very good.

Thank you. Hey, Dr. Steve. What's going on? Hey, man. This is Josh from Jersey. Hey, Josh. How you doing? What's up, Dr. Scott?

Give me some damn nose spray. Ah! Well. Couldn't help her. Question for you. My wife's expecting. Had the shot. She already had the vaccine.

She's good to go. Yeah. What's going to happen later? I mean, does the baby eventually, you know, because now it's going to be in her system into the baby's system? Yeah. Or, like, you know, stupid shit. Like, you know, I didn't have a chicken pox shot. My kids had the chicken pox shot.

I've had the chicken pox. I know. So, but literally the baby's in her system with the shot. So. Yeah. Okay. I know where he's going on. That's a great question.

It is a really good question. So when you give a pregnant mother of vaccine, particularly this one, her body makes the immune response. And she can pass those antibodies through the placenta. And so the kid will have passive immunity, but it's unlikely that the kid will have any active immunity. For example, Tacey had RSV when Beck was born. He's our youngest. She just thought it was a cold. Turns out it was respiratory sensicial virus. Five days into his life on this earth

outside of her womb, he has a fever of 105. We brought him to the emergency while we called the pediatrician and they admitted him emergently, tested him. he had respiratory syncycial virus, and the nurses up there in that unit were like, you know, this is really serious. He may have long-lasting damage. We're not even 100% sure he'll make it. We may have to go to the ICU.

But the thing was, Tacey was breastfeeding. So her body was making antibodies, and she was secreting IGA antibodies. We don't hear about those so much. We hear about IGM and IGG, but she was secreting IG. anti-A antibodies in her breast milk, which she was then turning around and feeding back. And he just sailed right through it. He was sick for a day in the hospital with all these tubes and stuff because they were all terrified, and then the next thing we knew, he was better, and we went home.

It's crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. And he was born 10 days before Christmas, so it made for an interesting Christmas, because that would have been the 20th that we took. came in and we got home what on the 23rd it was no it was Christmas Eve was it Christmas Eve was it yeah it's delightful so and Tacey's still feeding on demand so no sleep in the hospital sucked but she saved his life of course she gave it to him but she it's like I guess what would that what would that be like giving somebody poison and then giving them the antidote

I kept asking people for medicine and they said it might hurt the baby well it It would have because there's a virus. I mean, you would have been exposing it. I was sick as shit. Yeah, we don't have a treatment for respiratory syncessial virus. I think after this COVID-B-S, we need to declare war on all viruses, and that's one of them. Because, you know, babies that get that or young kids that get it can have some serious problems down the road. Most of them do fine.

It just causes croup when they get a little older. But, yeah, why do we have to have these viruses in our life? I don't know. Yeah, they suck. I hate them. So war on all viruses. Tacey saved the kid. So this kid will likely have passive immunity to COVID-19, but it will decline as those antibodies

degrade, and they will have to be re-exposed to the antigen to develop their own immunity to it. All right? All right. Okay, no. Hey, Dr. Steve, how are you? I got a question. It's about vaccines, but not COVID. I was watching a video on the COVID vaccine,

and it mentioned that I think the vaccine for tuberculosis or tetanus, I think tetanus is like a different type of vaccine than any other one. It's like a toxin vaccine or something like that. Number one thing. The video can get into it or explain it, and I couldn't really find anything on it. So I was just wondering if you could explain how that works, I was trying to give you. Give yourself a bill.

Thank you. It is a toxin vaccine. So most or not most, but a lot of the vaccines that we give, well, yeah, most, generate immunity against the entity that's invading our body. So COVID-19 vaccine, the MRA and A vaccines create a spike protein in our cells that then we then recognize as foreign, make antibodies against that spike protein so that when we see the virus itself will block this virus's ability to attach to the receptor that it likes, which is the ACE2 receptor, particularly in the lungs, and the respiratory tract.

And it will prevent it from implanting, and if you prevent it from being able to attach, then you prevent it from being able to reproduce, and then that's the end of it. So that really targets the virus itself. Tetness is caused by a toxin caused by a spore-forming bacterium called clostridium tetany. And if you're not familiar with tetanus, it's because we don't see it anymore.

And the reason we don't see it anymore, why taste? I don't know My microphone just broke I can't hear you anymore You can't hear me anymore No You're right across the table from me Okay so I don't know why

Did you fix it? Well just take the headphones off then Or just yeah How's that? Okay So why is This is a great show by the way Why is there no tetanus Why don't people know tetanus?

I don't know Yes, you do? Because we vaccinate against it. Oh. Can you hear that? I can hear that, yes. Okay. So, yeah, because we vaccinate against it pretty universally. And I've seen one case in my career, and it was a person who was never vaccinated for Tetanus. And you're supposed to get the shot, what, every seven years? Ten years. Ten years? Yeah. Or if you get poked with something. A dirty wound? And there's a protocol for it.

The emergency room where you go, if you fall on, let's say, a hoe that is covered with cow fecal matter and you cut a big gash in your hand, you're going to be looked at as a candidate for a tetanus booster. Now. Is there something else in the tetanus shot or is it just the tetanus shot? Well, there can be. They have tetanus shots and, you know, tetanus with diphther. Okay, that's what I thought. And then there's tetanus diphtheria and pertussus, accellular pertussus. So there's, you know, there's several of them.

So the tetanus vaccine is actually against the toxin that Clostridium tetany secretes. So when that bacterium invades through, say, a cut, it'll produce a toxin. Not too similar. I mean, well, the mechanism is similar of the invasion, but the toxin itself is distinct from botulism. But they're both toxin-forming problems. And so the bacterium secretes this toxin. The toxin causes tetanous,

which just means irreversible contraction of the muscles. Okay. So that's why it's called lock jaw because when it locks your jaw, you do like that. You can't open your jaw because the masseter muscles are all that control the jar, clenched. And the person that I saw, we gave them intravenous immunoglobulin from someone that had tetanus vaccine and they had antibodies against the toxin and they got better. so but that's one case I've seen that was probably 30 years ago and not seen one since and there's to my knowledge

there's never been a case of anyone getting tetanus once they have had the full pediatric series as kids diphtheria is another one who's ever seen diphtheria I've never seen a case of diphtheria I know how to recognize it if I see it and it causes a pseudo-membrane in the back of the throat that's just white and it's, you know, exudate.

It just causes such severe inflammation in the airway. But I've never seen a case of it because of the diphtheria vaccine. How about rabies? I've seen maybe one case of rabies in an animal, but never in a human, not once. Why? Because we vaccinate our animals, our pets. In other countries where they don't do that, We have a friend who comes from a part of a country where they don't vaccinate their animals.

And to her, dogs are monsters that can kill you with a single bite. And she's terrified of them. When I was a kid, I'm a lot older than you are, so you wouldn't remember this. They used to have PSAs on the television about rabies and what would happen to you. And I remember this guy walking down the stairs and then he starts, you know, foaming at the mouth and he falls down and the screen is flashing. It was that kind of grimy black and white we got back in this before color TV. Scared the shit out of me. I still have nightmares about that ad that they ran about rabies.

And I was terrified of, you know, a stray dog or anything like that because they might be rabid. That was what they were trying to say because this was pre-rabees vaccine. and you know what you've seen night of the living dead the original george romero right it was that same black and white and gray you know what i'm talking about how creepy that is yeah you know and i'm disappointed in the south for all for our falling behind on getting the covid vaccination and you know i have people in my family who oh it's just it's not even real Really? Now your mother's not like that No, my mother's not like that

I wonder if she would be if she hadn't gotten Think real hard on who would be like that Well, okay There's only a few people in your family that I can imagine I just didn't realize you'd been talking to them No, I haven't been talking to them, I just know Okay Yeah, let me see

Vaccine rates by U.S. what we say? The South has fallen behind according to the Today Show. Oh, well, the Today Show just, you know. And the thing is, is they're trying to justify their BS what they did in New York with these lockdowns that were no more successful or less successful than what was done in Florida

that was wide open the whole damn time. Okay, so at least one dose in Florida, 53%. Okay, Tennessee, 41.2%. And let's look in New York. New Jersey, 62, New York 59. So, yeah, I mean, we're a little behind now. Alabama, at least one dose, 35%. Yeah.

And Louisiana, 37%. Okay, so, and, but it's not just there. Wyoming's 38, Idaho, not a southern state, 39%. So, well, let's look, this is impromptu, by the way. Let's go to COVID.stoutlabs.com, okay? And we will look at those states and compare them. So let's find the highest state. It looks like Washington, at least one dose, 60, 60, Vermont, 73%.

So let's do Vermont. Okay, that's the highest I could find on this quick sort of survey. So Vermont, 73.4%. Now, Vermont is a not very populous state, but they do have some areas that are very populous. Okay, there's pockets of them, but for the most part, not so much. So we're going to do Vermont, and you can do this along with us. Just go to COVID.com.com. We'll do Vermont, and what were the states?

Oh. Oh, for fuck's sake. Okay. Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. Yes. Okay, so Alabama, we'll just do them against Vermont. Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. That shot kills people.

Yeah, the virus doesn't do anything, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, it's not real. So let's do new cases. And isn't that interesting? They're all almost exactly the same. Mississippi, zero, Alabama, zero, Louisiana, zero, Vermont, nine.

Oops. So are they right? No. I mean, everybody's right. This is the thing I like about this country is that we have 50 little experiments that you can run in how to do things. So Florida can do their way and New York can do their. way. And then the other states can look and say, well, these are the two sort of extremes. New York was totally locked down. Florida was, I mean, we saw it. We were there. Yeah, you had to wear a mask

if you went into Walgreens. That was about it. That was it. I mean, you could tell the people who were showing up because they had their mask on and then. As soon as they got there, they're like, F this. Yeah, and they took them off. Yeah, let's see. New deaths. Yeah. basically all the same, all the same. And these curves are not, I'm not impressed by any of this. Now, Alabama, there's got a few spikes here and there compared to the other ones, but that's it. And some of this could be reporting as well. So, yeah, so, and then the other states can go, look, do we want to be more like New York,

or do we want to be more like Florida? They have the right to make those decisions themselves. And I think that's what the, one of the strengths of this, this place, you know, you don't just have two or three districts in your country like some of the European countries do. We have 50 distinct states and they can literally do whatever the hell they want to do within certain limits. And hell, some of them are even legalizing marijuana, just told the federal government to go F themselves. Yeah. Marijuana is still illegal as far as the feds are concerned. It is a Schedule 1 drug.

But you can go to Virginia now and get medical marijuana. I'm actually a provider, you know, a prescriber, but I have the certificate so that I can certify people for it. Which, given that I grew up in the 60s, when, oh, don't let anybody know you have this nickel bag, man, you know, it's amazing. But now I can write a certificate, people can just go buy it. And then you've got places like Colorado and other places where you just walk in, buy whatever the hell you want. Yeah. So I like the 50 different little experiments and we can all try different things and we have. There's a huge difference, obviously, between what Florida and then you get the, you know, those southern states, you know, Louisiana, Mississippi and Georgia.

Georgia and that are doing a completely their own thing and then other places like Vermont and Washington now I'm starting in the booster trial in four days the 30th this may be our last show because remember there is that one concern about the COVID vaccine is that it could conceivably produce a thing called antibody mediated immune enhancement. And that's where an antibody against one form

of a virus can block the immune system from forming immunity against another form of the virus which causes a worse infection than you would have had if you hadn't had immunity to the first one. We see this with dengue fever. dengue fever people get dengue and then their immune system actually blocks the body's ability to respond to the second infection so when they're exposed to it again it's actually worse do you have to do this before vacation what yeah yeah hell yeah i'll be fine okay so um that that's the concern and by the way again i'm willing to step up i am a little concerned about that, not very much concerned because we should have seen it by now, certainly to goodness that

someone, and probably millions and millions of people, we vaccinated a billion people now, would have been exposed to one of the other circulating coronaviruses by now. And if there was a problem, we would have seen it. We're not seeing it. So we're seeing no evidence of immune antibody mediated immune enhancement with this vaccine. Nothing. We're not seeing not even the smallest signal of it yet. So I'm not that concern, but that is my one concern that it could affect me a lot worse, having, you know, being exposed this next time. But we'll see. So I'm excited about it. I'm excited to be on the forefront of that

so that I can report back to you guys, hey, yeah, it was no big deal. Just like Bill Murray and Caddyshack picking up the baby Ruth Flour in the bottom of the pool and eating it, go, hey, there's no big deal. All right. All right. Okay, very good. So, tetanus vaccine, good. And I'm not even going to say all vaccines are good.

I still, and we've discussed this on this show, I have an issue with the chickenpox vaccine. I'm not 100% sure that it's the smartest thing to do to vaccinate kids against a virus that for the most part only cause. lack of productivity in those children for a short period of time. But when you, if you do not have lifelong immunity and you get it as an adult, it can be really serious. So do we have a bunch of kids running around who are only partially immune and now as adults, they're going to get it as adults? What about the women that get it when they're pregnant?

I mean, that's basically fatal for the, for the feet. is it really yeah I mean it can be oh I didn't know that yeah I think so let me see chicken pox in pregnancy so I think we should be getting tighter's on these people you know and okay it says here chickenpox infection is caused by a virus called varicella zoster used to be a common infection isn't dangerous in children people are at higher risk for complications from chickenpox including pregnant people and newborns so if you get chickenpox during the first 20 weeks of pregnancy your baby may have an increased risk for congenital varicella syndrome it's a rare group of serious birth defects that can cause scars problems with

arms legs brain and eyes gastrointestinal complications and low birth weight Okay. Okay. If you get chickenpox immediately before or right after birth, your baby may have an increased risk for serious infection called neonatal varicella. This infection can be life-threatening, but treatment is helping more babies survive. We do have medication for varicella now. So, which we'd use the same thing for them as you do for shingles, which is valicyclavere. Okay. So, I mean, but it's a serious infection. It's not invariably fatal, obviously, but it's a serious infection. And I don't think, I don't know if we know. You know, that's the thing that concerns me about this is that we give this to these kids. And then we just kind of go, oh, well, you're good, you know.

And now, have I seen adult chicken pox? I have not. I'm not seen this, you know, mysterious outbreak of adult chicken pox. so far so good but And we would have seen that by now I would think so Yes I think so Because our kids

They got chicken pox right If I remember correctly They just had a real mild syndrome I think so Or did they I think they did And Then we had a big chicken pox party

I'm just kidding No Yep help them old viruses out That's good for them Get it out of the way. Yeah, so Liam is 18, and he wasn't the first one to get chickenpox vaccine. So we'll look that up for next show, see if anybody else is concerned about that. All right.

Next. Hey, Dr. Steve, it's Pete and Dedicate. What's the hatch? Yeah, get to hear. So my wife just sprung on me. I guess we've got to do that one over again. Let's see here. So what's the haps as a Sam Roberts friend?

Hey, Dr. Steve, it's Pete and Dedicate. What's the haps? The haps are right on, blood. So my wife just sprung on me that she has scheduled herself for bariatric surgery, the gastric sleeve procedure. You know, we're both a little overweight. She's, you know, on the heavier side than I and has tried for years with various things. Dude, you better pray she doesn't hear this. Can you imagine if I described you like that?

Yeah, it would be true, though. Like Doom and the other one and other diets and other life changes. And it's just hard to put ourselves first with the massive. brood of children we have and the usual. I get it. It's the hardest thing. You have to eat to live. And if you get to where you're sort of addicted to overeating, it is, I mean, you can't just stop that.

If you're a drinker with some help, you can stop drinking. You can't ever stop eating. And if you go to an AA meeting and you get some guy in there saying, well, I'm just going a social drink, they all just jump on them, you know, because it's so hard to do. Some people can get away with it, but very few. But you can't, it's really hard to just, quote, unquote, social eat if you have a problem with eating. So gastric sleeve surgery is one of those things that they offer. It's also known as a sleeve gastrectomy, and they remove about 80% of the stomach, and that is permanent.

And beside the risks that are inherent with any surgery, people who have gastric sleeves can have things like nutritional deficiencies, indigestion, obviously sagging skin, which is fixable with plastic surgery, gallstones that can get some reflux and stuff like that. Now, there is a risk versus reward. Addiction transfer. Oh, that's, oh. Addiction transfer is one. Oh, we are going to answer that.

Some asshole on the radio. Yes, we are. We'll be right back, everybody. Okay, we're back, and that was Beck. And he made it. He made it. He made it. absolutely terrifying i'm just thinking when i was 17 i drove across the state to go see my friend

from western north carolina to the piedmont area in middle north carolina and my mom i would think that she was crapping herself but i don't think my parents cared that much about me. They're like, yeah, okay, I'll go have fun. Anyway, let's finish up with the gastric sleeve. The benefits are that you lose weight, and that improves your well-being in a lot of ways, including mental health, your self-image, but also decreases your risk of sudden death. But what is the efficacy on that, like long-term? Because I see a lot of people get a gastric sleeve. They lose weight initially.

Yeah. And then it seems to not work so well after that. Well, the thing is that you have to participate in the aftercare program that the bariatric surgeon is going to have. And yeah, you still, it's not just going to make you stop eating because you can totally defeat it with milkshakes and stuff like that. So you've got to commit to the program like any other weight loss program, but this does make it easier to do. So you've got to discuss the risk benefits and alternatives with your provider and also make sure that you talk to them about their complication rate because there are complications from this.

And this should absolutely be a last resort kind of thing. You've tried everything else. Nothing else has worked and you're at high risk for complications if you don't do something. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right.

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