Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 465 - Do Crematoria Dream of Silicone Implants?

Episode Date: August 5, 2021

Dr Steve and Dr Scott discuss: 1) Trolling for celebrity retweets 2) Stacy DeLoach: Covid Rebel 3) Cases v Deaths in Covid 4) do silicone implants survive cremation? 5) are there any non-pathogenic viruses? 8. Wade wonders about vaccines and how they work 9. Low level laser therapy for back pain? Please Visit: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) noom.doctorsteve.com (lose weight, gain you-know-what) Get Every Podcast on a Thumb Drive ($30 gets them all!) roadie.doctorsteve.com (Every bass/guitarist needs one!) simplyherbals.net (for all your StressLess and FatigueReprieve needs!) BACKPAIN.DOCTORSTEVE.COM – (Back Pain? Check it out! Talk to your provider about it!) Cameo.com/weirdmedicine (Book your old pal right now while he’s still cheap!) betterhelp.com/medicine (because everyone needs a little counseling right now!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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autographed yeah i hadn't even finished it yet i got so excited i just sent it to him and with a self-address stamped envelope that's cool and uh yeah it'll be more fun reading it with his autograph and I'm a weirdo I get out there I troll for celebrity retweets I got one from Mary Steenbergen though Oh cool

Because I said It was a tragedy That they canceled last Last Man's stand What was it Last Man on Earth Oh yeah yeah With Will Forte

Yep And they ended on a cliffhanger And she She either retweeted it or liked it. Yeah, I'll take either one. So people see me just sort of boot-licking celebrities and stuff. It's just basically I collect those.

I put them in a folder of favorites. I'll tell you my best one, though, was when David Byrne was on Saturday Night Live with that new group that he's doing things with, apparently it's on Broadway or something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were playing once in a lifetime. and these people with their drums,

they're obviously very talented. But they had these big goofy grins on their face and they're running up to the front of the stage into the camera like we care about them. And we don't. And I just said, you know, is anyone else annoyed by this glee club version of Once in a Lifetime?

And you know who retweeted it was Chris France from the talking hits. Oh, my God. That was awesome. I don't know how he saw it. He must have been looking around for people who were complaining about it. That's funny. How cool is that?

The drummer from Talking Heads retweeted me. I remember that. That was kind of annoying. It was awful. Yeah, I thought it was, too. I don't know who likes that. I guess people who don't know the Talking Heads weren't around in the 70s and early 80s to see them. and all of their glory.

If you want to see them, go watch Stop Making Sense. Just do that. That movie was definitive. I saw them in concert, and that's what it's like. The guy's super talented. Great, great vision. No flies on David Burn. I just don't know why he's doing that.

Yeah. Is it his vision or somebody else's vision for him? Dude, I don't know, but I was really like, what in the hell is this that I'm watching? but maybe I'm just an old curmudgeon, and I don't know anything about what's cool. Cool stuff? No, that would buy that. Because we still, you know, I would like to, quote, unquote, smoke a J, unquote, quote, unquote. But watch out for the quote unquote, narx man.

Coming from a true streaker. Coming for a true streaker. That's true. Anyway, well, listen, I don't know if I have the Stacey Deloche music. Where in the hell is it? Because it's pissing people off, by the way. Oh, because it's so terrible? No, they love it.

They can't get it out of their stupid heads, which makes me want to play it that much more. And I don't know why I didn't realize that I don't have it up here. Let me see. Everybody loves this when I do this. Oh, here it is. Okay, I found it. All right.

So, in honor of our old buddy. This too long intro. You can cut it to one. Stacey Deloche is a good old guy. He's got a lot of thoughts that he pulls from the sky. True. He's a cop. He's a captain.

He's an entrepreneur. Can't argue with that. His questions rain from tough to profanity. True. Stacy DeLone. Keep on cruising. Keep on going. Keep on.

Keep it on. Okay. I'm having enough. You know what we ought to do, though? Let's do it in the studio, and I'll do some counterpoint, and we'll add some flutes, because I know that's Stacy's favorite instrument.

And you know, that was, I did that. Wait, one... Yeah, I know. You did a... You were one take, Dr. Scott. That's right, yeah. Single shot. So anyway, so the reason I'm playing the whole thing is because we need to be nice to him because he's got COVID-19.

Oh, no, but... Yeah, let's talk to him real quick, and we'll bring him up here. Stacey Deloche, welcome to weird medicine. Yeah, by way, I've noticed that you didn't submit your Stacey Deloach intro, so you'll help you. Well, did you... No, I... I had one. Did you hear it? Don't do it, Stacey. Don't do it.

Okay, you heard it. Okay. You know, I'm not going to play that one ever again. But we will, Scott and I will collaborate on that one and make it a little more, you know, airworthy. Yes, clean. But anyway, so, dude, so now, so what, if I understand this right, what happened was one of the people that you worked with came down with COVID-19. and so they made you guys isolate. And then somewhere in there, you tested positive yourself and now you're sick AF. So tell us the story. I, yes.

I had to go to Mobile, Alabama, to go do an action investigation, maritime action investigation, took my compliance guy, IT guy with me. So we're in the trip for about eight hours driving over, doing the stuff and driving back. And then last Wednesday, a week ago today, We had our managers meeting, President of the company, everybody else, we're all in there. And my IT guys there also, my compliance guy. And the next day, which will be Thursday, got a phone call the afternoon from my boss saying, hey, so-and-so tested positive for COVID-19.

Everybody's going into a 10-day quarantine, quarantine at home. And I'm thinking, instantly, I start feeling bad. And I'm thinking, oh, this is psychosomatic. heard them. Oh, I'm in all the time. Totally understand that, yeah. So, so Friday morning I got up and I thought, screw this. I'm going to go to the grocery store, but I'm going to do this.

Okay, one of you will be mad at me. One of you might appreciate this. I just thought I'm going to try to do this naturally. And so. Do what naturally? Yeah, well, I decided to stay going out and do it because when I went Saturday, Well, let me back up. So I decided I'm going to go try to fight this thing naturally.

And so everybody's telling me you need lots of vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc. B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, B, so. So I'm going to go to the grocery store. So you broke quarantine to do this naturally. I'm just trying to understand. I hadn't been tested positive yet. Oh, okay. I didn't tested positive yet.

I got you. I got you. But you were supposed to be in quarantine. I still. I still. Yeah. Well, yeah, but nobody else. do this other than people in Pat and Rouge.

You knew it. I'm just saying. Okay. I'm just trying to. I knew it. So I went to the store and I bought a whole bunch of oranges. I bought corn. I bought everything that was dry.

I bought squash. I bought pineapple. I bought bananas. Lots of lemonade. And because, like I said, vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc and everything else. And then Friday night, I really started feeling it. I could feel something wasn't. quite right.

Got up Saturday morning, put on a mask, went to a walk-in clinic, pissed off the nurse. So bad she has no sense of humor. She apparently has never heard of this show. No, of course not. Nobody's heard of it. Well, because she goes, you tested

positive and I thought I could be funny. And I went, woo-hoo! She said, you're not taking me a serious point. There you go. No, she didn't understand something very important that the lay public uses those words differently than they do.

Yes. That pisses me off. You were absolutely right to do what you did because no one in this profession should be using the words positive and negative for that exact reason. I had a – I've told this story on the show. I had a colleague whose mother called him and said, oh, thank goodness. They called me from the office and said my influenza test was positive, and she thought that meant that it was good.

Mm-hmm. Because you used the word positive. You use the word positive for good things out in the real world. So I think what you did, you taught her, she didn't learn anything from it because she didn't say, oh, yeah, I shouldn't have used that word. She said that she blamed it on you. So anyway, go on. But I think you did the right thing. I'll give you one of these for them.

Give yourself a bill. There you go. I like it. I think everyone should do that. When they tell you your test is positive, you should go, yay. Awesome. Yeah. Just to get them to stop doing that.

Right. Go ahead. So I come back to the apartment and I decide I'm getting on regiment. I do best when I have a schedule, just me psychologically. I'm so used to being a military format and everything else. And so I decide I'm going to sleep for an hour and I'm getting up and I'm moving for 30 minutes because I don't want this stuff. I don't want to be flat on my back and let this stuff start building up in my lung. if this is COVID, if it really, really is.

Yeah. And so I set my alarm clock, my timer for one hour. I go to bed, I get up, and for 30 minutes, I'm up moving. Yeah. You know, they say I need vitamin D, so I'm going out and walking around the block for one hour. When my mask don't get in sunshine, I come in, I eat an orange or a banana, and I go to bed for an hour. Yeah. And I do that all, I do that Friday, Saturday night, all day Sunday, I go for a wall,

If I don't want to go for a walk, I'm sitting down with a hand radio studio. I play on FT8. I mean, nobody else knows what that is. Yeah, it's a digital mode, but it's fun as hell. Yeah. Watch Brooklyn 9-9 or something like that for 30 minutes and I go back to bed. Yeah. And so, and I do this for, like I said, Saturday, Saturday night, Sunday.

You know, and like I said, I'm eating lots of oranges. Okay. So, okay, we got it. So let me ask you a question. Why, at this point, you've tested positive, why not do the monoclonal antibodies? I mean, you're a big, you were a big Trump guy, right? Your buddy, I mean, your buddy, Mr. Trump got the regeneron. I mean, he made a big deal out of it.

Allegedly. No, well, he did it. Surely the God he did. And regeneron is a recombinant monoclonal antibody, and it's a combination. of two antibodies. And I'm not even going to try to pronounce them because I have trouble with those antibody names, but it's Casarivamab and M-Devamab.

Okay, I did okay. And if they can get it early, and people who have risk factors, how old are you? 58. Okay, so that's not a risk factor, but you are diabetic, right? Right.

Have two diabetic. Yeah. Have everybody in my family's, except for one that's died from heart attacks. Okay, but you haven't had an heart attack, but you are at risk because of your diabetes. Okay. So I'll tell you the risk factors for people out there. Age greater than 65, not Stacy. Obesity, not Stacy.

Pregnancy, well, maybe. Chronic kidney disease. Well, maybe, you know. Do you have chronic kidney disease? I can't remember. No. Okay, good. So diabetes, there you go.

Any immunosuppressive disease, any cardiovascular disease, do you take high blood pressure medicine? Nope. Okay, so that you, but hypertension would be one. Chronic lung disease, sickle cell, any sort of neurodevelopmental disorder, you know, people with, you know, trisomy 21, that kind of stuff, or having any medically related technological dependence that would be tracheosomy, a gastrostomy, people with feeding tubes, or anybody that uses

positive pressure ventilation that's not related to COVID-19 so people on iron lungs and stuff like that. So you would have qualified for this. Yeah, the nurse practitioner, when she told me all it's positive and then I pissed her off. You know, she told me that I qualified and I said, I don't think I won't take it.

Okay. It surprised me. She said, you know, She says she wouldn't take it either. Well, but we've already established that she was a jerk, so why, you know, why would you take what she said in that situation? This combination's been effective in reducing symptoms and keeping them from being admitted to the intensive care unit. So that's why you do it. Now, having said that, you can take your chances. Listen, it's a free country.

And obviously, so far, so good, you've done pretty well, right? I beat it. I mean, by Sunday night, it was gone. Yeah, okay. Well, you still sound, you don't sound right, but maybe it's just our phone connection. Yeah. But, yeah, okay. I mean, I have, by Sunday night, you know, for my, when I woke up, you know, after about one hour of sleep, kind of real nice, greasy fart, and I smelled it.

It's kind of, well, since it smells back, must be over with it. Okay, that's good. Monday, I had a little, Monday, a little bit of a headache, and that's it. I mean, I haven't gone to get, they told me there's no sense and going to get tested, but I have no signs of anything. Well, in no sense in getting tested now. You already tested positive, so you're down for, you know, X number of days according to the CDC's isolation rules.

And then if you have no fever... Do it again? Yeah, I had no fever with the entire throat. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, so you got to isolate for if I remember correctly it's been a little you know they keep changing this so if I remember correctly it's 10 days and at the at the 10th day you have to be a febrile no fever and okay let's see here okay monitor your symptoms not be mentioned Monday for me yeah people are in isolation should

stay home till it's safe for them and be around others And I'm just looking for a day on here. Last I checked, it was 10 days. So we've had people who were in homes where the family members didn't get it, but they didn't start quarantining until after the person was diagnosed. So they still have to stay at home, whereas the person that had it can go do their thing because they're done with their isolation. Yeah, so your local public health authorities make the final decisions on how long quarantine should last. But they usually will go after day 10 without testing or after day 7 after receiving a negative test result. That's for quarantine.

And then isolation is used to separate you from people who are not infected. But anyway, yeah, man. Good. well I'm glad you beat it yeah like I said to me it was nothing more than kind of like a hangover except for mine was the only thing that scared me about

mine is mine not thinking my right side it wasn't bilateral it was strictly on the right head side I had a sinus edict on my right side my right eye hurt and didn't want to work focus right my neck on the right hurt

the right side of my chest, even my right testicle, not the left one, but just the right one. Yeah. So I thought it might be something other than, you know, COVID at first. Yeah, yeah. But like I said, by Sunday night, my sense of smell was back and everything was fine. I hopped up a couple of luggies. I didn't have a whole lot of coffee or anything else. Yeah.

Well, you know, people don't go on. Despite all the fear mongering, most people will not get this thing, and most people who do get it will not die. So even if you have risk factors, I mean, I've seen people at stage 4 cancer get this and just sail right through it. It really is a lot of host factors. Now, one thing I thought would be fun to do, and my definition of fun is different from other people's, but would be to calculate the requirement for herd immunity for delta variant compared to OG COVID-19. So if we remember the formula, Dr. Scott, is herd immunity equals 1 minus 1 over the R0 or R sub 0. And the R sub 0 is the, you know, effective transmission number, which basically says if you take one person and put them in a vulnerable population, how many people will they infect.

That's different than the R sub T, which is the real world how many people are getting infected by people being infected. But this will give us a number for herd immunity. So if you remember, the R-sub-0 for OG COVID-19 was 2.4. So 1 divided by 2.4. And then subtract, that's 0.41, subtract that from 1. And you get about 58%. So herd immunity is attained when you hit 58%. Well, just the other day, we hit 70% in this country.

Yep. Okay. So, and around here, you know, I hear all this about, oh, the mouth breathers, they don't get vaccinated. That's a bunch of crap. In this area, the vulnerable, and that's over 65 people, diabetes is right around 80%. Yeah. That's a pretty good number. Well, so it turns out it's the young, for the most part, that are not getting vaccinated because they don't see the value in it. But anyway, So it turns out that the R sub-zero for this virus is anywhere between 5 and 9. I've got to pot Stacy down because it sounds like he's unpacking, you know, unpacking boxes. But so it's between 5 and 9. So let's just say it's 7.

Okay. So 1 divided by 7 is 0.14 and subtract that. from one, and now you get 86%. So you have to hit 86% of people who are immune before this thing even begins to decrease. Wow. Now, people, all I hear in the media is about cases. So let's just look at cases because what we're really interested in is hospitalizations. Now, I hear about some hospitals that are getting overwhelmed again.

I think a lot of that has to do with staffing, but maybe it is raw numbers. If you're working in a hospital that's overwhelmed, give us a call 347-766-4-3-3-2-3. That's 347 poo-head. And let us know what's going on in your area because we are not seeing this. And apparently, we're in the where the mouth breathers are. You know, there's nothing wrong with being a mouth breather, by the way. I'm not sure why that's an issue. But anyway, so let's do new cases.

We'll do in the United States. And now we are spiking like M-Fers in this country right now. Okay? I'm looking at the 100-day. Now, so we are, let me get a seven-day rolling average. And I'm doing this, by the way, at COVID. Dotlabs. com, S-T-O-U-T-L-A-B-S-com, COVID-D-S dotlabs.com.

So right now, we are at the SMA, or the Simple Moving Average, is at 90,000 new cases. Okay, so let's go to when we were at 90,000 new cases before. And that was February 16th, okay, on the way down from the peak of 240,000. of 249,000 new cases a day, okay? So, but right around February 15th, 16th, somewhere in there. Okay, we were at 90,000. That's the last time that we were there. Now, let's look at new deaths, though,

because that's what we're interested in, right? Right. New deaths, yeah, 386 for the whole country. Now, the last time we were at 386, I can't even go back because when we were at when I go, this thing only goes back 300 days. So at October 9th, we were at 484. It was higher than that. So this is the lowest new deaths that we've had since October of 2020.

You got me? Yep. Okay. So now let's go and let's just do, Stacey, you still with us? I sure am. Okay, all right, I just wanted to make sure. So let's go to U.S. data, and what we will do is let's go to New York. We'll do Florida, New York, New Jersey, and Tennessee.

How about that? And let's look at new cases. So new cases are about the same everywhere. Now, let's see. Okay, well, Florida is only reporting their data once a week. So Florida had 110,000 new cases. At the same time, New Jersey had 878. New York, 2.3,000, or 2,400 cases.

In Tennessee, 6,800 cases. Now, let's look at new hospitalizations. I think we have that on here. No, new deaths. Let's just do new deaths. And if you look at new deaths, we're looking at 7 for New York. York, five for New Jersey, one in Tennessee, Florida, 409. If we look at deaths per 100,000 population, though, Florida is below New Jersey and New York

and Tennessee is in between. So, you know, I think that's the important thing to look at is because, again, and I'm starting to sound like a broken record to myself, when we had the pandemic of 2009, that's a That was a pandemic, and we had one of our friends died. It was Barry the Blade. We had another friend ended up in the hospital with it, which is Richard David Smith, the founder with his wife, Chetai, of hyperphysics, the energy drink for nerds. That's H-Y-P-E-R-F-Z-Z-I-C-S.com.

But, you know, we didn't shut down. We didn't push small businesses out of business. We didn't pay people more to not work than to work. And it was because the death rate was low. Well, the death rate's low with this. Right now, anyway, it seems to be. Now, maybe it'll go back up. But it seems to me that the vulnerable have been vaccinated.

And they're almost at the level where the virus can't be transmitted in that population. So, yes, cases going up like crazy. Death's not so much. So we'll see. You know, I may listen to this two months from now and go, boy, that was really stupid and short-sighted. But, you know, and there may be other variants out there, too. But so far so good. And what we've said, you and I have both said, if we end up with a variant that escapes all the immunity that we've already generated from this thing,

Well, it's just a brand new pandemic. We've got to start all over again. But it won't be so long for them to get a vaccine out this time. Right. You know, they know how to do it. And they've done phase three for these vaccines that really just have to do phase three again. They don't have to do phase one and phase two again. Because we're in phase four right now with all the vaccines, you know, post-marketing.

Yep. So anyway, all right. Well, Stacey, I really hope that you continue to, improve and you said you get you get out of isolation when next monday next monday okay so let me give you something to do in the meantime are you ready homework homework yeah what you want to do is get a certificate for the world's largest teapot and the call sign is whiskey zero tango or whiskey one tango all the way, all of the call areas have one. And then there's Whiskey Victor 8 Hotel Alpha Tango.

And if you get all of those, you can get a certificate where you filled up the teapot, or you filled up the cup. This is the shit we do in Ham Radio. It's mesmerizing. It's a commie's F. Yeah, so see if you can work all of the. Okay, we'll see if you can work all of the whiskey. you know, blank tango calls and get that certificate.

And you got nothing but time. That's just this week, too. As far as the vaccine. Okay. I remember seeing those of those calls on times come up. Yeah. Who does quality control on the vaccines? Is that an in-house thing?

Yeah. Because I'm just wondering, what's the chance of a little? because now you've got people having breakthroughs like the senator from South Carolina. Lindsey Graham just tested positives after being out with a bunch of Democrats on the weekend. And even though cleaning the Democrats were vaccinated. Well, here's the thing. No, I'm wondering. I know what I'm wondering is what's the chances on a lot of these vaccines just being saline in the bottle.

Oh, I got you. Well, okay, so they have to. You're right. They have to be kept at a proper temperature, although not as low as Pfizer originally. So they've got to be handled properly. But the FDA will pull vials off the shelf and make sure they are what they're supposed to be. And the companies themselves are supposed to be doing that as well. Of course, you know, not everybody trusts the companies anymore than they trust the media and stuff like that.

But the companies are supposed to be doing that. And really, if the companies get caught, you know, suppressing data that their vaccine has gone bad in the bottle in huge numbers and they didn't do anything about it, I mean, there will be hell to pay. Hell to pay. And they know that. So they're really incentivized to do a good job on that. Yeah, and can I add, too, there are a lot of independent companies that are paid by those big pharma companies to also independently. certified that those Oh man, they could be bought off, man.

Well, they could, they sure could, but then they'd lose their asses too. And they make a lot of money doing that, by the way. Yeah, that's the, that's... Yeah, listen to talk about getting bought off because I've got a card that says I'm vaccinated. But you're not vaccinated? I've cost me a $100 bill to get it.

Oh. Listen, listen, I mean, I'm just saying that, in my opinion is, I don't care if you don't want to get vaccinated. I mean, that's up to you. It is you may be a burden to society, but I'm willing to take that on. But then to turn around have a fake card. Just say you don't, you didn't get vaccinated and own it. You know, why not? Because of my job, and you knew where I was supposed to be going to.

God, you're not going to get in trouble for this. I don't want you get in trouble for this. Oh, no. Well, the job's not happening now. But, yeah, we were all supposed to be vaccinated with proof of vaccination. Okay. So I signed up for a little place to go get a vaccination and walked in with a water bottle and a $100 bill. And she came in.

That was a syringe lading in a little train. I said, let me see the same. This is the magical thing. I pulled the cap off of it, shot into the water bottle, gave her $100 bill, said, I need that card. Oh, my God. Prove me otherwise. Are you sure it's okay for you to tell that story?

I don't mind running this back. Nobody, well, the only way that you're going to prove that I'm wrong. I'm not going to prove anything. I'm going to be testing. Yeah. But, yeah. I've got several guys that. He could just be telling a story.

A hundred dollar bill to get a card. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, that is. vulnerability of this thing when they're saying, oh, you've got to have a card to go to these concerts and all this kind of stuff. And yeah, you will have people doing that.

And they're not doing tighters on people before they go into a concert. So you'll have lots of people running around saying they now I heard of somebody wasn't there somebody recently, Scott, check this out. It's something for you to search. I think somebody got

on a plane or something in another country and said that they had a COVID vaccine, showed a card, and it turned out to be fake, and they got in all kinds of trouble for it. Do you know what? Do you know the story, Stacey? I've heard the story, and I heard the story today about old Fox News. They're talking about the fear of people mass producing fake cards, but at the same time,

the food fighters had done a multiple shows in New York, and the only way you could get in was to show your papers, your vaccination cards. And then half the ban from the food fighters came down and tested positive. Oh, my goodness. Yay. Great vaccine. Oh, my God. Okay, here we go.

Two travelers who used fake vaccine cards to enter Canada from the U.S. were fined nearly $16,000. The airline passengers also submitted fraudulent test results. I wonder how they found out. Let's see what they say. The passengers failed to stay at government authorized accommodations, also required by the country's government. passengers who were not identified in a news release, traveled to Toronto two weeks ago, and were Canadian citizens. Okay, shoo, it wasn't one of our friends from Sirius XM 103. They were fined $20,000 Canadian dollars.

Let me see. Oh, they did not say how the fraudulent documents were identified. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Interesting. I'm not a fraudulent. That's a real one. Yeah, right.

It's a real card. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Okay, here we go. In July, the Department of Justice announced the arrest of a naturopathic doctor in Northern California who allegedly gave patients false vaccine cards and homeopathic remedies. Sounds familiar. That said she would boost the body's immune response to the disease.

That sounds like old Stacy. Is this who you went to? According to the complaint filed in Northern California Federal District Court, the cards allegedly provided by the doctor, Julie Mazzie, falsely said the patients had been inoculated with the Moderna vaccine. Yeah, if you're just own it. If you're going to just do natural things, just own it. Say I gave them, you know, natural remedies. Yeah.

But don't say you're curing anything. Blind squirrel done or something. Exactly. Well, that's right. But, you know, when Scott gives people flying squirrel gun, he doesn't say it's low sarton. Right. You know, he says it's flying squirrel dog. Yeah, I tell him, it's squirrel feces.

He's willing to stand by what he's doing. You know, when you give people saline or whatever she gave them and then said it was the Moderna vaccine, it means one of two things that you don't stand by what you were doing, or number two, you just did it for the money. Mm-hmm. Because people wouldn't come to you unless you would give them. Well, some people wouldn't. Probably more people wouldn't come to you if you gave them. And all of this is allegedly, right? It's, you know, we don't know.

I'm just saying what she was charged with and what they're saying she did. But anyway, all right. Hmm. Interesting. I'm only reading her name because it was on NBC News. And a story by Tim Stello, so if you're mad at anybody, be mad at him. Anyway, all right. Good Lord.

What a world we live in. It's insane, isn't it? We definitely live in interesting times, do we not? Man. We do. I think the Internet's a big part of it. It's a huge part of it. I think it's to blame.

I'm really starting to think that. Oh, well, what are you going to do? Oh, my God. As a libertarian, I don't want them coercing people to do anything. but it's okay to make your case and let people make their own decision. And so far, they've made good decisions for the most part. I mean, we've got 70% of the country is vaccinated. 80 plus percent of people in our area that are vulnerable have been vaccinated.

That's right. Oh, now somebody was asking me, I was going to play. I've got to play your question, too, and we only have a few minutes left. But this is one of the best questions Stacey has ever called. Let me just go ahead and play it. Dr. Steve, Dr. Scott. This is Stacey Duluth. Yeah, no shit.

D.A. also, that's my official title for dumbass, because everybody else gets to have a title. Anyway, there's a, we have a new reason for calling you that, but we'll get back to that. Cremation. Yes. If a female is cremated and she has breast implants, yes. Silicon is one of the strongest materials and almost indestructible Would those survive being cremated?

Okay, so I did some research on this. This may be your best question because it's just, it's got everything in it. It's got boobs. It's got, you know, hey, I don't know the answer to that kind of stuff for the listener. And, you know, they're all fascinated and want to know the answer.

The answer is when they do these, If they do not remove the breast implants, they will, ladies and gentlemen, explode. And when they explode, the silicone does not, just like Stacey said, it doesn't incinerate fully. And so it coats the inside of the crematorium with this sticky, nasty, you know, silicone substance. Gross. Like caulk, right? So I bet the first person

figured that out figured it out the hard way. Yeah, they figured it out the hard way. That's right, that's right. So what they do is they remove them. Yeah, sure. And then they cremate the body. Now, if you want them buried with the person,

then they got to get a super special giant urn to do that so they can cram them in there on top or below the ashes or they could sandwich them. You know, put one implant on the bottom, put the ashes, put the other implant on the top but the answer is they remove them before they do that for that exact reason so it was

very good question great question yeah thank you thank you very much so there you yep very interesting all right well listen man I hope you get better we'll uh they're saying you you got to go so so take care man and keep us in the loop I will y'all be careful okay buddy take care stays okay bye okay buddy be best All right. Good Lord. Jeez, Louise, the hot mess. The Hot Mess Express.

Well, I mean, he's... I understand it. I mean... Timmy diesel fumes, I think, is getting to his brain. I understand the thinking. Let me put it that way. Yeah. I understand the thinking behind it.

I don't understand the ethics of it. Mm-hmm. You know, I think that's the whole thing, is that we... As long as we all just... hear what the other person is saying and appreciate it for their differences then this thing could be a whole lot easier to tie. And that's true of both sides of this.

What kills me is we used to just have a continuum. We don't really have a continuum anymore. We've just got two sides to this. And the one side, I was on a podcast today, and the guy said, why did you vote for Trump twice? And it's like, and wait a vote. This is how you open?

Oh, my God. I said, did I do that? And he said, well, that's what our record show. And it's like, what records? Get the hell out of here. I'm a libertarian. I voted for Serene Ardiliano, along with probably a thousand other people, but I don't care. I voted my conscience.

But. Hmm. Interesting. I think it's because she tweeted you or she retreated one of your tweets probably. That's why you went for. Yes, of course. Of course. And I want to be her vice presidential running mate next time.

That would be so much fun. I love her. That would be pretty cool. We'd vote for you. We had her on the show. I don't think you were here that day. No, I wasn't invited. And you don't listen.

You invite me when you have the. You're here. Shut up. The talk on ham radios and. All right. Okay, let's take another call before we get out of here. Let me... Number one thing.

Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. All right, very good. Let's see here. I've got... This one's pretty good. Hey, Dr. Steve, thinking about this delta variant being, you know, more virulent, but less fatal, less... I don't know if that's true, but, yeah. Most viruses...

...thinking about how, you know, the perfect evolutionary... pressure for a virus is to become easier to transmit and less disruptive to the host. Are there any viruses that we just don't even know about because we pass them back and forth so easily, but they don't cause us any problems at all? God, that's such a good question. Yeah, the so-called non-pathogenic viruses. And these are viruses that have decided to settle. Because here's the thing.

The reason you cough, I mean, well, it's not the reason you cough. That's teleological. I'm assigning meaning where there is none. But viruses that cause you to cough are more easily transmitted if they're respiratory viruses. Because if I'm just breathing normally, I'm not going to shed that much virus. Right. So some viruses will select, will have strong natural selection pressure to enhance their ability to be transmitted from one person to another. Now, if they kill the host too fast, it selects against that because then they can't transmit very well.

If they invade the host and then are stuck there, they can't transmit themselves either. So how would a virus get from one person to the other? Well, some of them we get at birth and then they just live in our body. That can happen. You can get exposed to them once and they just live there. Herpes, well, chickenpox is kind of an example of that where you get the chicken pox and then it lives in your body, and not everybody gets shingles.

No. But it's there and it doesn't cause any symptoms. Of course, you can't transmit it to anybody anymore. But it had its one sort of flash in the pan. It had it. And it was really transmissible. Chickenpox, very transmissible. So it was very transmissible up front

and then just lives in the body. I read a, there are viruses that attack bacteria. And there are so many bacteria in your colon that your colon is probably full of bacteriopathic viruses. I may have just made that word up, but they are pathogenic. In other words, they invade and infect the bacteria. Look at bacteriophage, by the way. That's one of the craziest things.

Look at electron microscope bacteriophage. Well, I'm telling you have. I'm telling our listeners. It's not just you and me here. But those are really cool little machines. You know, they look like little alien machines. Yeah, with like a special little dart on the bottom of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And these little legs and they, you know, they inject their DNA into the bacteria. And those things are all in your body. And yes, you could, you know, some people would say, well, you're infected by them. You're not. They inhabit your body, but they don't target human cells at all. but there's tons billions of them in your gut right now most likely yeah I was thinking the same thing

just feasts you know reproducing on the bacteria that are in there and there aren't enough bacteria for them to infect them all you know I mean sorry there aren't enough viruses there to infect them all the number of bacteria in your gut

is in the trillions maybe more than that interesting so that's pretty cool yeah that's a great question But it is very difficult for a pathogenic virus to evolve to the point where you no longer have any wave to transmit it to somebody else. It can happen. Anyway, all right. All right, let's see if we've got time for this. Yeah, this is Wade from Louisiana.

Hey, man. I've been hearing a lot about people that contract COVID-19. that have already been vaccinated. I have myself been vaccinated, but I'm wondering if people are just confused how a vaccine works. The way I view it, and I need to be corrected if I'm wrong, but it's not a shield to protect you from the virus.

It is a mechanism to keep you from suffering from the virus. Sorry, sorry, sorry, Wade. Yes and no. So when you have humoral immunity, those are antibodies and you've got a ton of them, you're less likely to get infected. But as that fades, which the coronavirus does, measles, not so much. Tetanus fades over 10 years, maybe. I mean, we get boosters every 10 years.

Pertosis kind of fades over time. But things like measles and tetanus, things that have long-acting antibodies. I mean, they're just always circulating. can detect them, those things will pretty much protect you from being infected. Now, when they decline, as the coronavirus antibodies do, for whatever reason, we don't know why the body doesn't keep producing antibodies, maybe it's because they change so often that the body just says, oh, fuck it. Yeah.

You know, it's stupid for us to have a clog up that works with all these antibodies. We'll just wait until the next one. But you will still have humoral response. And the humoral response are the cells, the T cells, memory T cells, macrophages, all these things, killer T cells that will induce the body to fight these viruses later. So when the antibodies fall, you can get infected now. It's a lot easier to get infected, but yes, you will be less likely to die if the humoral immunity works. or less likely to progress to advanced disease, which was always my hypothesis about this coronavirus. We have other coronaviruses in the population, and all they do is cause the common cold.

And I think that those are ones that we have developed immunity to in the very young age. And just as we see kids don't seem to be affected by this virus. And then as you bring that immunity forward, you have humoral immunity. you'll still get infected by those viruses, but now they just cause the calm and cold. And I think this one will do this too, but it'll be a generation from now. We all need, the old folk need to die out,

and then the kids that got immune to this need to have children. And then when that happens, this virus will still be in the population, but they'll just get colds from it. Because all the old people that have never been exposed to it before will be dead by that. Then it'll be a coronavirus.

virus like the rest of the other? Yeah, it'll be number six. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it would just be number six. Yep. All right. Very good, Wayne. Good job, Wade. Yeah, let me see. I don't know that we've got time for this. Yeah, we do. Hey, Dr. Steve, calling about your opinion on low-level laser therapy for back problems. Yeah. I am a mid-50s male, a very fit condition, but every once in a while I will throw out my back and it's not spinal. It's all muscular.

Yeah, okay, understood. So he's interested in low-level laser therapy, because you can buy that. I'm sure. Do you, we don't have much time. Do you do any of that? No. Okay. Yeah, so I looked this up in the Cochran reviews.

This is where they take all the data and mush it together and then give us an answer to the best of their ability. And it's very well-respected journal, and they said low-level laser therapies used by some physiotherapist to treat low back pain. It's non-invasive light source treatment generates a single wavelength of light, emits no heat, no sound, or vibration. It's also called photobiology or biostimulation. And it was believed to affect the function of connective tissue cells

and accelerate connective tissue repair and act as an anti-inflammatory agent. So they included seven studies, but it was only a total of 384 people, has not been very well studied. with non-specific low back pain. Three studies separately showed that this low-level laser therapy was more effective at reducing pain in the short term, less than three months,

and intermediate term six months than sham lasers were. Cool. Okay, however, the strength and number of the treatments were varied, the amount of the pain reduction was small. Three separately, separate studies reported that that was no better than exercise alone.

So the jury is still out. So, I mean, you don't do any of this stuff? Not really. I've certainly seen it, and I know it works. I mean, it's not really acupuncture. It's not traditional Chinese either, but. I've seen people do what they call laser acupuncture. So instead of doing an insertion, they also have this laser acupuncture, which I've never seen anybody that did well with it.

Yeah. But I've also seen, and conversely, I've seen some folks that have the laser done on their dogs for arthritic knees. Yes, I know. And spines, so I'm not saying I'm not against it at all. And certainly, if I had back pain, I'll try any damn thing. Basically, what Cochran said was based on these small trials with different populations, low-level laser treatment doses and comparison groups, they're insufficient data to either support or refute the effectiveness for the treatment.

So they're not saying it doesn't work. Yeah, yeah. They're just saying the data sucks. Yep. It says we were unable to determine optimal dose, application techniques, or length of treatment with the available evidence. larger trials that look specifically at these questions are required. And that's always true.

We need large, double-blind, placebo-controlled. And you know, Dr.C., what I would say is... Randomized trials. Yeah, I didn't mean to interrupt. No, no, no. Yeah, I was just going to say what I would say is if it's not going to hurt you and you want to try it? Yeah, I don't have a problem. It certainly will not cause any harm unless you're avoiding doing something that you should.

And I'll say this, too, if all it does is warm up the muscle and increases blood flow, that might give a little bit of benefit. Who knows? I just wonder how it would do that. I don't know. All right. Well, listen. Thanks always go to Dr. Scott. We can't forget, Rob Sprantz, Bob Kelly, Greg Hughes, Anthony Coomia, Jim Norton, Travis Teff, that Gould Girl, Lewis Johnson, Paul Offcharsky, Chowdy, 1008,

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