Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 466 - The Elephant in the Room

Episode Date: August 16, 2021

Posting this, I realize that Weird Medicine may be at the end of its shelf-life. I always said I'd keep doing it until it wasn't fun any more and there's really nothing fun in this episode. Last week, one of our friends told the story how he got a vaccine card without actually taking the vaccine. Yes, the vaccine isn't FDA approved and yes, I understand why there is hesitancy out there, especially in someone who has already had the virus and has natural immunity. I also understand that there are barriers being erected to normal functioning if one doesn't have the "vaccine passport," at least in some parts of our society. So the pressure to do things that one wouldn't normally do is there and I get that. Putting a medical professional in a situation, though, where they have to compromise their integrity...oh I don't even want to talk about it, anymore, we discussed it enough on this episode. I was tempted to just delete this one; I don't want to make enemies and I don't want to lose a friend either. You can disagree with someone's actions and still be friends with them, right? Right? On the other hand, Stacy's a big boy and can handle it, and plans to be here next show and that will be the last time this is ever discussed. I'll have to decide after next week's show whether this is still "fun." Oh, and Fezzie died today, and I'm bummed about that too, probably more so; we all knew it would happen eventually, but he just kept on being Fez, despite retreating into Todd-dom and it still took me by surprise. He was a delight, just a lovely person and Tacie and I will miss him forever. So overall just a crap week; it's ok if you skip this one. And the next one. If we can get through it, we'll do dix and nutz questions and have fun again in a couple of weeks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He's so funny Anyway All right Listen we got to get to the We'll call this one The elephant in the room I guess Yeah So last episode

Of the podcast And we're going to have to do something On the Sirius XM too I guess But Our old buddy Stacey Deloche And I gave him multiple chances To just let me stop the show Go back

and erase it, and we'd talk about something else. The boy doesn't learn. I gave him multiple chances. And he copped to basically getting a COVID vaccine card without actually taking the vaccine. Which is the most naughty thing. It's very naughty. And stupid. And the thing is is that.

Uncalled for. A month ago, he got in big trouble for something I said on the show that was, I thought was very innocent. and now I'm getting in trouble for something he said on the show. So I told him, you know, F you, I guess we're even now. But I got, we got a bunch of tweets of people, and then I got this email, and this one bothered me. And I'm just going to read it to you because I asked her to call in and, ma'am, if you did call in, I did not find your voicemail. But it says, I am extremely shocked. Me too.

And disappointed in the... Me too. And the unethical and, no, this is her words, unethical, because I'm going to, I have something to say about this. It took me by surprise when it happened. So we, you know, we played the, you know, we were funny. We played the, you know, sound effect and stuff. But anyway, the unethical and immoral actions. Totally.

Of your beloved buddy, Stacey Deloge. And she spelled his name wrong as she put Stacy Lee Loach. Who cares at this point? But I think, beloved buddy, if she'd put it in quotes, I would have known she was being sarcastic. But anyway, it says, I am disgusted. Me too. And will sadly no longer listen to the show on Sirius XM. Oh, okay.

She's a Sirius XM listener. Okay, well then I don't know why I'm reading this on the podcast. But anyway, I am saddened. Me too. As I have been a fan for a few years, I will miss my Saturday night ritual of listening and then often re-listening on Sunday, morning. Oh, my God, we cannot afford to lose a single listener. You know, now we're only have nine. I can no longer do that. Your show provided a much-needed, optimistic, and

lighthearted educational break from life's heaviness. I am saddened and disheartened, thought I would share and let you know. Well, please have her listen to this episode, because this is utterly. Well, we're going to, we'll do it. We'll do it next week. He's coming. He's coming here next week and we'll do serious sexing. But we're just going to talk bad about him this week. Right. And I told him that. And I really like him. All he, you know, he brings us presence. He's very nice, feller,

but what a bad, you know, he's human, everybody makes mistakes. But what a stupid, ignorant, bad decision. People are getting sick. Well, you are popping your peas like a mother, too. Sorry. I don't, I mean, I'm not a professional. That's how mad you are. I just don't. When you told me

that he did that. I was so. Well, it's not like I was talking out of school. And the nurse who did it, what a dumbass she is. I mean, we're in the middle of a pandemic and people are dying. Wow. And to go and be like, oh, let's just let me get a copy of the card. Here's a hundred bucks.

What an asshole. That's all I'm going to say. Here's the thing. I'm not a hundred. We'll find out next week because we have. a lot more questions than we did. I'm not sure why he was there in the first place. Why did he need that card?

Because his work probably said so? Well, maybe. So I'm not okay with employers, no matter what the situation is, mandating that their workers get a vaccine that has not been approved by the FDA. Now, it is approved to give it to people under an emergency authorization, but it has, has not been fully vetted by them. And you know, we've talked about this that I've always said, look, if you think that they're putting nanobots in you and they're tracking you or they're changing your DNA, then I'm, you know, I'll discuss with you why that's insane. But you can't just say that, Steve. Well, hang on.

No, no. No, no. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. That's not true. I am anti the varicella vaccine, as you are well aware. I am not pro all vaccines. I am...

You're pro this one. Not, okay, let me... It's more fucking nuanced than that. Here's the thing. This vaccine has not been approved by the FDA. So I understand why some people, and particularly employers, my employer, isn't requiring it. and lots of other require employers aren't what if let me let me just throw up a what if to you what if you're a large health system and you required everyone to get that you mandated this

unapproved vaccine and then the FDA later on which this isn't going to happen but what if said we we're not going to approve this vaccine now you've mandated people to get a vaccine that or a medication or whatever it is that the FDA ultimately didn't approve and that's a bad move because that opens you up to liability that's a bad move but you said it wasn't going to happen no it's not going to happen but so I just really think in in the life that we're in right now and how everybody is putting their life you know all these concerts where people have to be vaccinated before they can go you know I'm pro that because I don't want to go I did not pop that one. I don't want to go to places and be in crowds where people are lying, big

fat lying. That's the issue about getting their vaccine with these fake cards and the fine is like can be up to like what did they say on the today show. Oh really? Yes, like $5,000 if you fake that emblem which of course he did not fake it. No, his isn't fit. But he came about it and even worse circumstances. Yep. So you bring up, okay, so we got into the weeds a little bit on this. My issue is integrity on this one. And here's a thing. If, and he had COVID. So his point is, why would I need this vaccine? Because we don't know how long. Okay. Well, we don't know anything. That's probably, we don't know anything about anything. So you should do what the right thing is at the time. Okay, I'm going to turn your mic off.

I don't care. Turn it off. This is ridiculous. Let me just finish my point because I'm agreeing with you. If, if, so this is his point. I've had COVID. What benefit am I going to get from having the vaccine? Now, up until just recently, we did not have evidence that getting a vaccine on top of natural immunity had any benefit.

But there is some evidence now. It's not incontrovertible, but it is evidence. There was a Kentucky study that showed that people who got reinfected were 2.3, something like that, 2.something times more likely to be reinfected if they had natural immunity and were not vaccinated. Okay, so there is that. Now, the numbers are really small. So saying there's a 200% increase when you're going from two people to four people, I'm not saying that's what the numbers were,

it doesn't really speak very clearly about what the actual risk is. So what I'm going to try to do over the next week is calculate a number needed to treat. In other words, how many people do we have to vaccinate who had COVID-19 to prevent one reinfection? And the number is going to be very high. But anyway, so, but again, my issue is integrity. So if you feel like you don't need the vaccine, then just don't get it. Yeah. No, it doesn't matter any kind of math that you spend the next week doing.

It's all going to be wrong. It's not. The math will be right. The math will be right. I'm not saying, I'm not defending him, okay? I'm trying to have a more nuanced conversation about the overall issues that are associated with this thing. But, again, let me just go back to where I was going to is this is about integrity. If you don't want to get the vaccine or you think you don't need it or you're nervous that, you know, they're going to do something that's going to do something to you, then just don't get it.

Don't get it. Don't pretend. Sorry. You talk. That's okay. You go ahead. Don't get it. Don't pretend.

Okay, don't get it and then stand your ground. That is what you don't want to do, in my opinion, is to not get it and then go pay somebody, you know, because the circumstance was that he went in to the dock in the box and the nurse brought him the vaccine. I'm assuming it was a single dose vaccine, like J&J or something, because it was only one. This only happened one time. And he took the syringe and squirted into his water bottle, put the syringe back down, and gave her $100 and said, I want my card. Now, I am kind of glad when I am glad that we are discussing this, and I'm glad we discussed it last week because people need to know this is happening out there. and it can be somebody that you like and, otherwise, you know, trust with your life otherwise.

And, but I really feel that where he went awry in this, on a ethical sense, was when he... Drove into the parking lot? No, yeah. When he decided, way before then, before he drove in the parking lot, when he decided that he was going to get the card without taking the vaccine. Just stand your ground to say, I'm not doing it, and this is why. And then bring your receipts and be an advocate for not doing it if you think that there's a reason why you shouldn't do it and other people like you shouldn't do it. And that I can respect that. I can also respect someone that comes to me and says, I don't want to take this vaccine until it's FDA approved.

I can respect that because there is a possibility. It won't be approved. I think it's exceedingly slim, or if someone said to me, I am concerned about this vaccine because I know about the cat studies where there was antibody induced immune enhancement and those cats, many of them died and it was a coronavirus vaccine. Now, the answer to that was that that coronavirus vaccine, which was an MRNA vaccine, was targeting a different protein than this one is. And we've not seen any of that with this. We've been doing it long enough. We've vaccinated a billion-plus people at this point. We haven't seen a single case that I'm aware of of antibody-induced immune enhancement

where somebody actually got worse because they took the vaccine. Now, I'm sure there are some cases out there where people got really, really sick and, you know, tragically may have been even fatal complications because there is with everything. When you do a billion things, no matter how, safe it is. There's going to be some severe outliers and tragic outcomes and stuff. But anyway, so that's my issue. I just, Tacey, I don't want you thinking that I'm defending him when just because I'm talking about, or defending his actions, just because I'm talking about nuanced things

that have to do with, you know, the facts about this vaccine. I think with this virus, it's at. I think nuance speaking right now is kind of, well... What? Say it. Say the word. I just think it's ridiculous. People need to be going and getting their vaccine. And especially if, like you said, they can stand their ground if they don't want to get it. Right. It's not smart. But just do that. But they can do that. I respect that. I mean, I don't respect it. I think it's putting everyone else in danger. and then I just I just think there's someone that had COVID-19 pose a danger to anyone at this point if they've recovered from we don't know exactly exactly according to Johns Hopkins as of August 2021 the COVID-19 case fatality rate for the United States is 1.7 percent wow and they're mostly what Steve echoed what are those oh unvaccinated folks I mean there is no question right now

And I'm just throwing this out to our listeners who may be on the fence. We're seeing cases go up. You know, a few weeks ago, I was saying, hey, the cases are going up, but we're not seeing an increase in hospitalizations. We are now. Now, why is that? It's not necessarily that the percentage of people that are getting sick is higher. It could be even lower, but the number of people who are getting sick that are being infected now are higher. So let's say if you have, let's just throw out some disease X where 1% of people come into the hospital with it.

If you have 100 cases, well, one person will come in. But if you have 1,000 cases, 10 will come in. And if you have 10,000 cases, 100 will come in. And it looks like, oh, gosh, this thing's getting worse. But the relative percentages are the same. It's just that the overall numbers are increasing. And so one of the ER guys that I talked to said that if he has a 45-year-old patient with COVID-19 on the ventilator, he will bet $1,000 that that person is unvaccinated. And he will win almost every time.

And that's, we're talking 99.something percent of that's his estimate. So, yeah, the vast majority of folks who are getting really sick are unvaccinated. People will have counter examples. Well, I know somebody they had, you know, the vaccine and they were fully vaccinated. They got COVID-19. They died anyway. Absolutely true. There's no vaccine that is 100% effective.

This one is the closest that we've ever come that I'm aware of, except for maybe tetanus, that we've ever come to finding a foolproof vaccine as far as the numbers are concerned. Tetanus, of course, is a The vaccine is against a toxin That's made by Clustridium tetany Kind of a different situation A more analogous situation would be the measles vaccine Which is also very effective So, you know, it's

Well, now I've lost my train of thought. You talk. It's just stupid. I don't disagree. You know, I just can't believe. I'm so disappointed. I just really am. There's just no reason. It's just gangster, and it's not gangster in a cool way either, you know?

Yeah. It's just, well, I hope he doesn't get anybody sick. Yeah, well, I think the chances that he poses a danger to somebody because he's had COVID-19 is low. But you know what, now that I think about it, I think all this happened before he got the virus. He just lied, and he's putting people at risk, and that's all you can say about it. Well, he certainly, by carrying around a card that says he got the vaccine when he didn't, certainly is not a truthful state. No, it's unethical.

Now, people say, well, you can get in trouble for faking the CDC logo. He didn't fake anything. His card is legit. No, what he did is just as bad. It's just what it says on it is not legit. I'm just very disappointed Yeah Well anyway

He's going to be here next week And I don't know We'll see how that goes You know Because a lot Now listen If you support his position on this Feel free to call in

We'll just do a whole show about that If we have to But I'd like to hear what the justification is I mean I get it If you feel like The government is overreacted overstepping in some way, or your local government is overstepping, or your employer is overstepping.

But I'll tell you, there were health systems around here in this state and other states that mandated the vaccine, and they lost, you know, about 100 of their nursing staff, which we cannot afford to do right now. So I think that... Because it's so full of COVID patients. Right. Who have not been... Just COVID patients.

Listen, some of that is a bit of a myth, too. Yes, we have some COVID patients that's nowhere right now close to the level that we had in January when things were at its worst. But there's a ton of pent-up demand of people who don't have COVID that are trying to get into the hospital. For example. But still, COVID is the issue, correct? That's what caused the problem. The year and a half of lockdowns caused people not to go have their colonoscopies. And now, instead of having stage one cancer, they've got stage three cancer and it's got to be removed.

So that's one kind of thing. People didn't get a lot of their screening tests done. We're seeing a lot more myocardial infarctions because the people that were having chest pain weren't getting checked out because they were afraid to come to the hospital. So, yes, that's due to COVID itself. So there's a lot of pent-up demand, and we're being flooded with people right now that aren't COVID-related. But what happens when you get those folks in and now you get a surge in COVID cases coming in? Because right now we're admitting more than we're discharging in COVID, which means that the numbers are going to keep going on. And then you start closing down units, and then you have to stop doing elective.

procedures that where the person is going to spend the night. And if you get so full, now you put people at risk because they want to, well, they have to have a gallbladder removed. Now it's an emergency and they can't get them in. You know, now that's what we're trying to avoid with all of this, you know. Just like we tried to avoid it in the beginning. Right. No, we're still trying to avoid all of that.

And we got down to a place where we all kind of thought this thing was mostly over. In our system, the admissions for COVID were hovering around 20 for quite a long time. And then this Delta thing happened. And now we're seeing it, seeing those cases rise again. So, yeah, it's bad timing. I think, like I said, we're going to have him. in the studio. Feel free to be here next time.

And Scott and we're just gang up on the poor guy. I mean, I think I'm in not here. Are you not? No. I'm gone next week. I'm going next week. You hear that, ladies? Yeah, there you go.

Oh, boy, yeah. 65 year old. Come get you some. 65 year old hobbling around. Oh, man. That'll turn a lot of the, a lot of our listeners on, Tays. Well, I hope that the nice lady who wrote the email understands and knows that nobody thinks that that's okay.

I mean, I'm not perfect. Stacey doesn't even think it's okay, I'm sure. But if I did something like that, I certainly wouldn't say anything to anybody. And I was so happy when I got my vaccine that I cried. Yeah, yep, I remember. I remember, and let's listen to this voicemail from this person. I'm just looking at our live voicemails at 347766-4323.

Hey, this is Eric. I work in Northeast Ohio at the hospitals. Our hospitals are completely overrun, and it's basically people that were too scared to come to the hospitals over the past year are now trying to catch up on everything that they must. missed. We have currently among the four local hospitals, probably two dozen COVID cases and 20 of them don't need to be there. They're on two liters of oxygen getting nebulizer treatments at their request, require no positive pressure pressure ventilation. So I'm having a hard time rationalizing, shutting anything down. Yeah, I'm not a I'm not a fan of lockdowns. You know,

You know, how much more pressure can our small businesses stand? I mean, you and I have multiple friends that have small businesses. And if you think big business is the employer in this country, you know, and oh, we got to do something about big business. No, it's small businesses employ the vast majority of people in this country. I don't know what the number is. I don't know if you can look it out, but it's... No, not going to.

What? It's a large number. And lockdowns don't seem to do anything about to accomplish what we want. And what it does is it pushes small businesses and their employees into the unemployment ranks. I'm scared to death. I'm going to get stuck back at home for months. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

No, I get it. I'm scared to death of that, too. Great. right now you hear that ladies yeah come get you some wink wink don't come around if tacy gets locked down you might not have a lot of time so better get it while you can that's right while she's still on the road well I probably shouldn't joke about that anyway so that is Eric saying that their hospitals are indeed overrun but not by COVID patients and I can concur right now that's true uh for us as well but the concern is what it happens when those two waves meet each other you've got

the waves of people with this pent-up demand coming to the hospital and then you have this wave of people that end up needing ventilators and so we got plenty of ventilators that's not the problem staff is the problem and that is true everywhere and in the old days and by the old days i mean 18 months ago. When your emergency room got so full that you were putting people in the halls, you could go into a status called diversion. And when you go on diversion, they'd go somewhere else. They would just go past you until things calm down and take them to somewhere else.

Now, everybody's on diversion. There's nowhere to divert these patients to. So you know what you do? In your emergency room, you have people in the rooms, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, you know, up to 20 or 30, however big your emergency room is. Now you're putting people in the hall and you're actually taking pieces of paper and creating new room numbers that are the beds that are in the hall between room 1 and 2 and room 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 like that. That is some crazy S right there. It's just very unfortunate. It's all Stacey's fault.

Poor little failure. Well, yeah, it is his fault. Nice guy. No, greatest. Big fat liar. Well, on this particular thing, very naughty, I will say that. Naughty. Naughty of naughty.

All right. Let's see here. Are we done? Yeah, you want to? I mean, I don't know. We got lasagna in the oven. God, we do, don't we? And I can't wait to eat it. So our garden has gone apeshit this year. And, you know, if we have to blame everything on COVID, we have to give COVID some credit for stuff, too.

You know, all the bad things in our life, we go, well, it's COVID. But our garden has gone apeshit, so I guess we have to say that's COVID, too. Yeah. Somehow it's COVID related. It was COVID last year. And so I made lasagna, quote, unquote. out of dehydrated squash. I took all those squash we had downstairs while you were gone

and sliced them up, squared them off and sliced them off and then put them in the dehydrator. And then I used that as the noodles. And then I took all those tomatoes we had and I made marinera or spaghetti sauce slash marinera out of those. And I reduced it for two hours last night to get it nice and thick. and it's got fresh basil from our garden

it's got onions from our garden it's got rosemary from our garden I mean shit and then I was going to make mozzarella cheese I just decided that's just that's too much

it's too much so I bought mozzarella and some fontina and I got some parmesan in there and I get you some retardo cheese I did not get any of your mother's type of cheese and that was kind of stupid on my part,

but I think it'll still be good. Oh, and a craplode of Italian sausage, which always makes everything good. All right, well, we have a crap load of other calls. We'll do those. What is the general opinion of the other calls? About Stacy? Mm-hmm.

No, there weren't any positive calls. No, no, I didn't get any that was, that was, that were positive supporting it. But I know there are people out there. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I would do the same thing. I know there are people out there. I mean, he probably gave, I don't know how many people, an idea that's just dangerous. Yeah, well, there aren't that many people you could just throw a hundie at and they're just going to give you the thing. But let me see.

Let's see if, okay, let's listen to this one, then we'll get out of here. When is the lasagna's supposed to be. Hey, Dr. Steve, your pal. About now. Jefferson from Pennsylvania. I hope you're well today. Yeah, man. You too.

Great. Of course you are. Okay, sorry. I'm baxed, waxed, and ready to relax. All right. I've got two questions for you. One is COVID related and one is a prostate question. Okay.

Let's come out of the gate with the prostate one. That must be the prostate question. I read a report today that said men who masturbate 21 times a month cut their chances of prostate cancer by third. Okay, so... You read that too, didn't you? Yeah, I did a cameo for somebody on this. By the way, if you want me to do a cameo, it's still like seven bucks.

It's cameo.com slash weird medicine. I will say fluid. I will say secretions. I will basically say anything you want. I'm not as, you know, goofy about it as high-pitch Eric is, but I mean, I'll make an interpretation. But I think my cameos are decent. But anyway If my friend

masturbates 63 times a month Does he effectively eliminate? No, no, it doesn't work that way. The threshold is 21 So if you want to get the reduced risk of having prostate cancer You got to ejaculate 21 times a month And, you know, I'm working on maybe four

So I'm a little behind on this But we're going to have to do some ketchup taste Is risk of prostate cancer? No now all right now that we got past that okay here's another one for you yeah this guy's great if a hundred vaccinated people were at a party with bill gates and their microchips oh yeah let's say they all got moderna for argument's sake okay one of them had an active delta infection how many people who are vaccinated out of the hundred would likely get infected that is such a great question and I

I got to be honest with you. I don't have, we don't have an answer for that. What is the risk? Now, I will be able to give you a partial answer if I can get the Kentucky numbers. I need the number of people that got vaccinated and I need the number of cases. And if the 248 people that they studied that were vaccinated, I'm sorry, that were reinfected folks were not a random. sample, but they were the complete cohort. In other words, that's all they had.

I can calculate the risk for you. And I'm going to tell you it's very low, but it's not zero. That's the problem. All right. So anyway, all right. Well, this was an interesting show. Sorry. No, you're awesome.

Listen, I need you to play the other side. Well, not the other side. We agree. Quit puffing my pee. But I need you to keep me honest, and you do. And you're hot. And I'm looking at you across here. Like, I'm literally hot.

I think you're going to. Like, it's really hot up here. You might? No, not going to happen. All right, never mind. All right. Well, we can't forget. We got Love Island UK to watch.

Oh, well, that is true. All right. Well, I can get one of those 21 ejaculations out watching that. So we'll be. Whatever you want to do, sweetie. We can't forget Rob, Sprantz, Bob Kelly, Greg Hughes. And by the way, that Love Island, UK, vastly superior to Love Island USA.

Vastly, although I have a friend watching Love Island U.S. And she's enjoying it. It's good. We've watched both. I just love, I guess I'm an Anglophile, but I love picking up all those different idioms and stuff. And I learned what, you know, how to pronounce C-W-T-C-H now. You know, it's a Welsh word. and it means like a hug

or just to get close to somebody and it's quich what do you think of that but it's spelled CWTCH I learned that from Love Island UK see you learn stuff from this stuff all right that gould girl

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Oh, and I still have three tickets to the WATP live event in Lombard, Chicago, or Lombard, Illinois. Should that tell you an Asian? What it tells me is I bought tickets for my stupid friends and then they bailed on me. So I've got three tickets if you guys want them. Somebody get a hold of me. And what they wanted me to do, and I'm sure you would approve of this is for me to get three of the most flamboyant escorts that they could, that we could find, and just, you know, have Dr. Steve's there with three.

I mean, I know, and I said, Tacey will not. You can if you want. No, I'm not going to. It's kind of illegal and. What's illegal? Aren't escorts illegal in Chicago? Well, not to just escort you somewhere. I wouldn't have intercourse with them.

they would just go there and make me it would just be a goofy weird thing who's sitting with Dr. Steve he's supposed to be so normal but anyway but yeah I'm not doing that it's too expensive that's really why well yeah that's true did I say the Saratoga

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Stacey, Lye. Lai, Lai, Lai, Lai, Lai. Now, anybody that gets that reference is our friend. Yes. We'll see you in one week for the next edition of Weird Medicine. Bye. Bye.