Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 467 - Giant Fetid Elephant Stool

Episode Date: August 19, 2021

Dr Steve, Dr Scott, Lady Diagnosis and Stacy the Roach discuss vaccine hesitancy. They even answer (shocker) some non-covid questions on hemorrhoids and shoulder surgery. Please Visit: stuff.doctorst...eve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) noom.doctorsteve.com (lose weight, gain you-know-what) Get Every Podcast on a Thumb Drive ($30 gets them all!) simplyherbals.net (for all your StressLess and FatigueReprieve needs!) BACKPAIN.DOCTORSTEVE.COM – (Back Pain? Check it out! Talk to your provider about it!) Cameo.com/weirdmedicine (Book your old pal right now while he’s still cheap!) betterhelp.com/medicine (who doesn’t need a little counseling right now?) wine.doctorsteve.com (Naked Wines is the best wine delivery club in the US. Claim your voucher!) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:06:26 Anyway, and then Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. You guys got anything else to plug? No. No. I got nothing. I'd say that's right. Yeah, Stacey. Hey, folks, what y'all been doing?
Starting point is 00:06:44 You had anything good to talk about lately? A little bit of controversy, not a whole, whole lot. But we've had, so for those who don't know what the hell I'm talking about, Um, Stacy told the story about how, well, you want to just tell the story. You just, you want to, just give us the Reader's Digest version. And then I'm going to get the context because part of this has to do with context. Now, I know Tacey said, you know, on the podcast that there's no room for nuance in this, but I, you know, she and I, I wish I was the way that she is. She is, if you look at the Myers-Briggs, you ever done a Myers-Briggs analysis, you get these four letters.
Starting point is 00:07:24 she is an I-N-S-T and I am an E-N-F-P and so what that means is I'm the sort of person that to my detriment sees all sides of every story and so when she and I are trying to decide on something I wish she were here you know she's like I'm on a pool and I'm like well we could do a pool we could do this we could do that and she's like oh my God you know you're arguing with me and it's like no no no no no no no you're just want a pool and I want to explore every option about how we're going to do the pool and all this stuff. We'll get to a pool and it drives her crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:05 But I wish sometimes I was just more like her where I could say, okay, this is right, this is wrong. She sees things more in black and white. This is right. This is wrong kind of stuff. And I always tend to see things as well, you know, what's the person's motivation, what's the context, all that kind of stuff. and anyway.
Starting point is 00:08:24 So anyway, so yeah, tell people the story, and then we will, I want to know, there's a couple of contextual questions that I have for you. Okay. But just real quick. Real quick, I was, the reason I did what I did. Okay, well, nobody knows what you did. Okay. And then we'll talk about the reason why you did.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Okay. What I did was I went to one of the major pharmaceutical chain stores, made an appointment to go get a Johnson and Johnson single-shot dose. Single-dose vaccine, yep. Walked in there with a full plan, worked out in my head. I had a water bottle that was halfway full and a brand new $100 bill folded up in my pocket. Okay. And I go walking in there and kind of ex-law enforcement, so I'm scoping everything out.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I realize real quick this is not going to be as near as difficult as I thought it was going to be because the young lady they sit there is probably like 25 years old, making maybe $12 an hour. She's going to come back here and stab me. So she walks back there with a little tray. She sets it down. I picked up the needle. I said, hey, so is this a magical wand here? And I pulled the cap off, stuck it in my water bottle, injected it in with my water bottle, put the cap back on it, put it on the red dispensary, pulled the $100 bill out of my pocket,
Starting point is 00:09:34 set it down in front of her and said, I think I need that card. She gave me the card. I said, thank you very much, and I left. Okay. The reason behind the card is, is because of the context. I had a job offer to go to a subcontract work. without giving away because it was a military job so there's lost us not going to be said about it nobody wants to it's a it's an offer to go to the south pacific that was going to pay me right at
Starting point is 00:10:04 50,000 dollars for 30 days worth of work okay i'm landing in hawaii i'm stepping off the plane i am walking to a military base yeah i'm spending there for three days in quarantine getting ready. Then we're flying. Then there's going to be 32 of us fly off to this island. There's one plane a month. My day rate is very, very impressive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, it was going to
Starting point is 00:10:30 pay me right, but one of the few... And it was a rare ham radio location, too, without giving anything away. So it would have been cool for you to transmit ham radio from there. Well, it was actually going to be three days worth of work. I'm sure that was on his list.
Starting point is 00:10:47 It was. I don't. I Yeah, we already worked out the deal and everything. But the thing was, is there's one plane a month. My day rate is from the time I leave the U.S. States until I get back to where my pickup truck is at. And it was going to pay me right at $50,000,
Starting point is 00:11:04 but I had to have the card in my possession. Now, let me, okay, so I understand the financial thing and all that stuff. Now, let me ask you, did this happen before or after you actually got COVID? A week before. So it was a week before.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So if it were after, and you said, look, I'm completely no danger to anybody because I've got the antibodies. I've already had it and all that stuff. I get it. When it's before, the issue I have, let me tell you the issue that I have with this is I understand the motivation for people avoiding the vaccine. I do understand it. You know, I'm not just a nambi-pambi pro vaccine guy. Nor am I an anti-vaxxer. I like to use some logic and some knowledge.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And, like, for example, I'm not a fan of the chickenpox vaccine. Chickenpox rarely hurts kids. I'm not going to say it never does. Right. But it rarely hurts kids. And now we have a group of people who have not had a booster shot that if their immunity wanes, which we do not know, if it will or not, you have a population of 20-something-year-olds now who are getting pregnant, and what happens if they get chicken pox? You know, nobody knows.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Nobody can answer this. So you're taking, you're vaccinating people for something that is just a lifestyle kind of inconvenience for kids, and you are pushing it further into adulthood where it can actually hurt them. Okay. Right? So I am not a fan of that vaccine until they can show me that there's lifelong immunity after getting the vaccine, or that you have to get a booster
Starting point is 00:12:49 and people are actually getting the booster, which they won't. So I have issues with that. So those are my bona fides as far as not being just some, you know, big pharma pro-vax guy, you know. So, but these are my issues. Number one, you put that 20-year-old person in a position where they, If they had any principles, maybe they don't, but they had to compromise their principles to do this. Because you are ex-law enforcement, you're kind of an intimidating guy.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yes, I enjoy that. Yeah, and you enjoy that. And then, you know, you plop down 100 bucks, and so she sold out her principles for 100 bucks. Now, maybe she doesn't have any, and she's totally fine with it. There is the other side of it that maybe she's still, like, worried about it. You know, that, oh, God, you know, that guy, you know, I shouldn't have done that kind of stuff. Yeah, that kind of stuff. So that's one thing.
Starting point is 00:13:47 That's the reason she was the target because I wasn't the first one that that happened with her. Oh, is that right? You didn't tell us this. You didn't tell us this. So you knew. I'm not the first person that that had happened with. That's the reason why I'm not telling you what story was or what it was or anything else. We don't want to know that.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So she was already corrupt. So you didn't corrupt somebody. Nope. She was already known to be this way. She was on the list. Yes. Yeah, you exploited her. Low, hanging.
Starting point is 00:14:17 No, she was paid for a job. Okay. But you didn't corrupt her. Okay, so I feel a little better about that. The other thing is, is just the, now you're willing to, because at that point, you didn't know, you had already been exposed to COVID and you were going to get it next week, that you were willing to, you know, go to a military thing and, you know, potentially expose people using a phony vaccine card.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It wasn't phony. It's a real card. Well, how did you explain? in COVID the next week. Oh, well, you can get COVID if you'd got vaccinated the week before. That's no. They actually told me because I've had three COVID tests that were positive and I finally got one that was negative. And when they gave me the, I got the one that's negative, they told me I had to wait 90 days in case I wanted to get a vaccine.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. But the thing is, is now I walk up, I shake people's hands and everything else because I'm trying to, I know, I've had three former employees. All three have been vaccinated. All three of them have tested positive. in the last two weeks. Yeah. But all three of them have told me, you know, it's really not that big of a deal. The first day was a little uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Because they were vaccinated. Right. But the thing is, is don't I have natural immunity? Yes, you do. So why don't I go ahead and try to get it again so my body recognizes it? A Delta variance or a Bubba Joe variance or a European variance or whatever. That's your choice. You're right.
Starting point is 00:15:37 It's always been my choice. But, okay, so can we not, and this. I caught hell from people for this. And I'm sorry. But can we not, no, for this point, can we not exercise our choice without prevaricating about it? In other words, you know, you, this, you know, this card that you have is a lie. Agreed? I mean, it's not, it's a real card.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah. But you didn't get the vaccine. No, I got the virus. I got God's cure. Afterward. Yeah, yeah. But you didn't know that at the time. But I would prefer, and I know this is impossible.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But for people who don't want to take the vaccine, which I do understand if someone came to me and said, I'm concerned about antibody dependent enhancement, which we've talked about on this show, where every once in a while, the antibody that attaches to the virus actually facilitates its entry into the white blood cells. And if it can infect white blood cells, then you actually get the worst syndrome. It's happened with cats in the coronavirus trials, although they were targeting a different part of the coronavirus. in those trials. But if someone came to me and said, I'm concerned about that. I understand that. But if you're not going to take it, then stand up for yourself and say, this thing isn't FDA approved, which is true.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I'm not taking it. And you can't make me. And then you take the consequences. If enough people stand up, then there won't probably be that many consequences. But I've had other people say, well, look, if it's your job and you're going to lose it, you know, if I'm the only one that stands up, well, then I'm. I'm screwed if I don't want to take it, so I end up either having to take it against my will or I have to lie.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And either way is a crappy situation. What is it like 30% of the medical staff still haven't taken? No, that's true. It's a shockingly small percentage of people who haven't taken it. Now, in our area, the vast, vast majority of people who are vulnerable have taken it. It's like in the 80%. So people over 65, people with immunocompromised situations, you know, situations, and people with, you know, what's the word I'm looking for, conditions that would put them at risk for a bad outcome. Most of them have had it.
Starting point is 00:18:01 So what we're seeing now is if I have a 50-year-old person on the ventilator in the hospital, I'll bet you a thousand bucks they haven't been vaccinated. now is that to say that there aren't some people that break through of course there always is no vaccine is perfect this one is as close to perfect as we've ever had smallpox probably being the most perfect vaccine measles pretty pretty damn perfect polio pretty damn perfect but i mean as far as an endemic infectious disease this one is pretty damn close perfect because influenza shit dude that one year when i got influenza it was only 6% effective. And you were sick. I was for a day, though. It didn't kill me and I didn't end up in the hospital, which is what I was worried about when I woke up with a fever of 105
Starting point is 00:18:53 at age, you know, 59 or whatever old I was. So I still credit the vaccine for making it so that I was sick for a day and then I got to watch four seasons of Arrow on the CW for the next week while I was in isolation.
Starting point is 00:19:09 You know? But anyway. Anyway. So, yeah, that's my, you know, I see it. And so let me ask you this. If the MRNA vaccine were FDA approved, gone through the whole thing, and it was approved, would that change your opinion about it? No. Okay. And the reason is, is the way that it was rolled out. It was rolled out that instead of just putting the people on the development, the vaccine, the doctors that, you know, the really, really smart people, they relied on Hollywood and they had, you know, actors come out, you must take this virus, I mean, this vaccine, you must do this, you know something, you can just kiss my damn ass. So the marketing, because of the way they marketed it.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Because it was, I am very much a type A personality. Yeah. Lots of years in law enforcement, lots of years sailing through the Panama Canal, lots and lots of The bar fights and lots of fun. Yeah. But now I've got somebody who thinks he's a tough guy because he's an actor. Now he's going to try to intimidate me. That's your reason?
Starting point is 00:20:17 That's because of the way it's rolled out of you have to do this. You know something? It's my choice. I don't have to. And you can kiss my ass. Well, as a libertarian, I do believe it should be your choice. Now, if it's going to start into stuff like that, then before you... But before you, it goes down this road, and you're going to start making everybody that doesn't agree with you,
Starting point is 00:20:38 force him in this, then every time there's an abortion, you need to go get the list of the one, three, 15 guys that inseminated this young lady. They need to sign off where she has an abortion because it's your body, it's your choice, doesn't count anymore. Yeah. That's what they're trying to do with. I don't get the connection between those two things, but that's a whole other whole other thing. If I get to make, but I get to make the decision from my body. I think as a libertarian, I don't, I don't, like governmental coercion, but there are things that we do coerce people to do. One of those is childhood vaccines.
Starting point is 00:21:17 If you're going to go to public school, you have to have vaccines. If you're going to drive and you have your kid in your car, you have to have them in a car seat. I mean, there are safety things that the government does mandate whether you agree with it or not. Safety, and you stabbing me with something that's not approved. you're two different things. Okay, so I asked you if it was approved because I agree with people who are hesitant. As a matter of fact, you know, like my employer and other employers around here are not requiring it now. They do require influenza vaccine, even when it's only 6% effective. They require it. It's a condition to work, but they're not requiring this because it's not
Starting point is 00:22:03 FDA approved. Now, the minute that it is, I'm going to see Domino's fall. and where a lot of employers are now going to require it because of the huge loss of productivity and the huge loss. Because, listen, if you're an employer and the vaccine prevents, let's just say, I don't know, even 50%. This one's better than that, but 50% of symptomatic cases. And then you're just not a health care employer, just a regular employer. And you've got an FDA approved vaccine, and you've got a delta variant that is so contagious that everybody who isn't vaccinated going to probably get it at some point. Because this thing is as contagious as, oh, God, well, it's our nod is like anywhere between five and nine. I can see them requiring you to have it just from a productivity standpoint.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Because even if you get it, you don't give it to anybody else, but if you test positive, you have to isolate for 10 days. And so you've lost that worker for that amount of time. And some people walk out. I see that, but I see these employers, you know, even though they're, you know, dying for employees right now requiring that. I see that happening the second that this thing gets FDA approved. See, I just see it so weird that all this time that the health care workers were essentially employees. You're absolutely essential. You're needed to save everybody's lives.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Now there's a vaccine, and you say, I'm not going to take it. Then it's go after yourself. You're not that important now. You're going to be replaced. Well, I see what you're saying. But I think once it becomes FDA approved, then I can't imagine very many health systems aren't going to require this if they require influenza, too.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I just don't see it. So what I'm hoping is, I mean, I've seen I am legend. and I really hope that we don't, you know, a year from now, this second, a new coronavirus comes around. We all get antibody dependent enhancement, but we're not seeing it. That's the one concern that I'm really worried about, and that we're not seeing, or I'm not worried about it. I'm concerned. I think it's a valid concern. And, but we've vaccinated a billion people now.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Well, let's ask Echo. Echo, how many people have been vaccinated for COVID-19? According to the CDC, as of August 12th, 2021, 2,540,000 people in Tennessee have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, which is 36.7% of the population. Additionally, 3,170,000 people in Tennessee have received at least one dose of a multi-dose vaccine. Echo stop. I want to know, echo. Can you just look it up? And I'm sick of echo.
Starting point is 00:24:59 What are you doing over there? But what do you need? Are you typing your dissertation? Jesus Christ. But I thought that we were supposed to be having... Hey, put on him. I'm answering questions over here. I thought we were supposed to have in her humidity or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Immunity. Yeah. Southern accent, that's one of those words. But like at 58%. That was with alpha variant. Okay, but like I said, I've had my brain scrub three times. They came back positive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Nobody told me if I had delta, if I had alpha. They won't. They won't, but you had delta. How do you know? Because it's endemic now. I mean, the odds are you at Delta. It's like 80, 90% in your area, Delta. But they're doing that epidemiologically.
Starting point is 00:25:42 So there's some big words again. I've had five people this in the last two days that were not vaccinated with Delta. It's saying right here. Well, how do they know? Wait a minute. How do they know it was Delta, though? I mean, listen, the way that they're doing this, they don't test you for Delta. They test you for SARS-Cove 2.
Starting point is 00:25:59 and then the epidemiologists go and do population studies to do the Delta because the treatment's the same. So there's no reason for me to treat you and say, well, you have Delta. What we need to know is we need to know it from an epidemiological standpoint. How contagious is this and what can we expect as far as numbers are concerned? But because there's no difference in the treatment, and right now we don't know if there's a difference in the prognosis, There's no point in us investing in infrastructure so that I can test you as an individual for Delta variant. Does that make sense at all? Once again, I don't matter.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Instead of splitting hairs and decide if it's COVID-1 or Delta or whatever. But, yeah, as far as worldwide vaccines, it looks like 4.8 billion have been given. What? 4.8 have been given, but so let's say 2 billion people have been actually. 1.86 are completely vaccinated. Okay, so 2 billion people we haven't seen, to my knowledge, a single case of antibody dependent enhancement. And there's five other coronaviruses rolling around.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So people have been exposed to those. You know, if you've had a common cold this winter, it's probably coronavirus. Okay. You know, one of the quote-unquote good ones, even though they kill 10,000 people a year in this country. I would like to see us go to war against all these effing virus. And, you know, common colds cause loss of productivity, too.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yes. And misery and stuff and cost billions of dollars. It's just kill them all. But anyway. So, yeah, anyway, that's all I have to say about it is, you know, you're my friend. You're still my friend. And I absolutely understand vaccine hesitancy with the people that are hesitant about it. But on the other hand, these vaccines have been proven so far to be effective.
Starting point is 00:27:55 as safe as they could be. They're not perfectly safe. Nothing is. Wearing your seat belt isn't perfectly safe. But the benefits far outweigh the risks. And then, yes, I'm a libertarian, so you've got to decide for yourself. I'm glad you didn't corrupt that poor girl. She was already completely corrupted.
Starting point is 00:28:16 It sounds like. Yes. You know, she's known for doing that. I wonder if she was part of that group in Memphis that got busted for selling those fake COVID cards. We can't say where anything about it because we don't know where this happened. This is a different state. I don't want to get any corrupt or no. I don't want anybody getting in trouble.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Hi, die. Hi. Well, I was just going to say, I don't think if you did not or refuse to take the vaccine, you should not accept the extra unemployment. You should give back your stimulus checks and anything that's been given out from this. A very conservative standpoint or a viewpoint from the. aging supermodel. I like it. I think you ought to have a vaccine card
Starting point is 00:28:59 to be able to vote. Well, you know, Robert Heinleyn said that I shouldn't be able to vote unless you had military service. That was his thing. But that's a whole different world we'd be living in that situation. But yeah, okay, so let's explore that, Diane. So I'm very interested in this.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And I want to add to what you just said, Diane, because I had a, I was telling this late this morning it was bitching about it and bitching about wearing a mask, you know, and how a mask doesn't work. And I corrected her and reminded her that if I were to sneeze in her face and blow snot in her face, she'd feel much better if I had a mask on. Yeah. But, you know, I was telling her.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Well, people say masks don't work. What they mean is they don't work 100% of the time. But we've gone over this. I'm not going to do it a million times. No, it's me. You get to do your thing. I'm just to say I don't want to go over it over and over. it from my standpoint, but, you know, masks only have to work 10% of the time to take an R-Sub-T down from 1.1
Starting point is 00:30:01 down to, you know, where we need it to be. So, and people who have listened to the show for a long time know what I'm talking about. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just Google R-Nod and R-Sub-T and you'll know. But anyway, so they can not work 90% of the time and still be very effective, effective for what we need them to do as far as a public health. situation is concerned. But go ahead. No, I was just going to say that if people choose not to do this, do the insurance start doing what they do to smokers? If you choose to smoke, your insurance, you pay more insurance.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah. If you choose not, which is fine, which is fine, which is fine. If you don't want to get your vaccines, that's your choice. There's going to be a consequence. But there's going to be some consequences because if you smoke, you choose, and I tell people all the time, I don't give a shit if you smoke or not. You're an adult. Yeah, if you like you smoke. Yeah, go fuck yourself. That's fine. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:55 If you're going to do it, realizing that you are at a higher risk for these things. My employer charges an extra $100 if you smoke. Oh, really? And I don't know that that's a terrible idea to consider for some in some certain instances. So what do you think your employer should charge for people who fake their vaccine card? They give them a raise for me. It's a real card. It's not a fake card.
Starting point is 00:31:19 They give them a raise for being in, you know, It's kind of a ingenious. For thinking. Yeah. No, I know. But that's just kind of piggybacked on what the supermodel said. That's not an un-libertarian viewpoint either, that you have the right to choose things, but there are consequences to those things, you know. One of them being you're at increased risk.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Now, Stacey got COVID. We had a bad couple of days, but you were okay. Yeah. And the truth is the vast majority of people. who get the virus will not die. And the vast majority of people, at least with the alpha variant, we'll see what this Delta variant won't get it. But the people that aren't getting vaccinated can't work
Starting point is 00:32:04 because these contractors are trying to get workers. The workers won't get vaccinated, so they're getting unemployment. The contractors can't finish jobs. Nothing's getting done. And restaurants and, yeah. Yeah, workers. And can you take your mic and lift it up some just so that, yeah, there you go. Is that better?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Yeah, that's way better. Thanks, because I want to hear everything you're saying. Yeah, I have a friend of mine, and he's been on this show, and I'm not saying his name, and he's still a friend of mine, but, you know, he's still, to my knowledge, I haven't talked to him in a while, but last time I talked to me, he was still making more not working. And I, my kid got 12 bucks an hour washing dishes at Cracker Barrel because they couldn't get anybody, and they were willing. to pay an 18-year-old who'd never had a job before, $12 an hour to wash dishes. Boy, oh, boy, was Big Joe pissed off when she found out that Liam was making more money washing dishes than she was working at the hospital. And they can pick their schedule because they need them so bad.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Yep. This is a great time to go get a job. It really is. I mean, an entry-level job particularly, and they're paying better. And thank goodness that the government doesn't mandate. a minimum wage because if they mandated it, these kids would be making a lot less than they are now. I remember when I made minimum wage of $3.75 an hour.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Oh, God. I do, too. Dude, I made a buck $65 an hour. And then when I worked in TV, I was making $3.65 an hour, and I got a raise when I became an audio engineer, I got a raise to $4 an hour, and the other guys on my crew were pissed. as hell that I was making that
Starting point is 00:33:54 much more money than they were. I drew one I'm 59 years old. I have drawn one unemployment check and it was for $1.88 and I was ashamed of myself. And I have never done... Are they paid for an hour for something or what was that for?
Starting point is 00:34:10 $1.88. It was enough to buy a thing of Red Manchu and tobacco. There you go. And I've never drawn one cents. Why even print it up? This was back in the early 80s, but still. And I just, I was ashamed of myself for doing it. It's weird, though, that now there's a moratorium on rent.
Starting point is 00:34:28 You can't excuse me about for paying, not paying the rent, but they're making more money on unemployment. Yeah, I don't know. That's a whole other argument. I got to stick to the medical stuff. Jesus Christ, I start getting into this political shit. I'm going to get my head chopped off again. Let's play Bobby Kelly's making fun of it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:47 So you ran into Bobby Kelly, where? Lafayette. Louisiana and what was the club uh 413 i think what's the name of it's the double tree hotel okay yeah and bobby was down there there hey steve look what i found at the show oh shit what's up buddy uh we're talking about your character that we both okay so oops uh how do i stop how do i pause this I know it's a fancy It's an apple phone
Starting point is 00:35:23 God damn it Here can you Anyway So you know Bobby hates that And when he calls me I'll answer as the old country woman He'll what are you a guy
Starting point is 00:35:36 He gets so mad So I told Jim Norton You know the next time That you have me on Chip Chipperson show Have Bobby on Right And I'll put Like
Starting point is 00:35:48 You know I'll put a mop over my head and I'll, you know, get these big, thick glasses or whatever and black out one of my teeth. Right. And I'll just come on as the old widder woman and I'll just drive him crazy. Because one of her things is she gets all the sayings wrong. Right. So she'll say stupid shit like, well, see a penny picket up.
Starting point is 00:36:14 All the day you'll have a bright, shiny penny. And it just, and it just. He drives Bobby crazy. She hates it. Oh. And I'll just get a bunch of those dumb aphorisms, and I'll just mess them all up for an hour and just drive him absolutely bad. Boy, he is good on stage.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Oh, my God, he's the best. Holy shit. Is he vicious? He's vile, too, and that's what I love about him. He came here, and we had him at the Renaissance Center. Diane and I did this, and there should be a poster. Oh, that's right behind you. April 23rd, 26.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Oh, my God. Wow. It was five years ago. That was a long time ago. I still got the Nick Banner from it. Yeah. Yeah, and I've got it. I still have a few left.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I throw them in when somebody buys a thumb drive. But he did the most blue show I could ever imagine anybody doing. And I think he just did it just to mess with me because, you know, my mother-in-law was in the audience. Kids. And it was. The blue monkeys? Yeah, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 The cunelangus monkeys. all this, I don't want to ruin any of his bits, but it was, it was vile, but it was so funny. And there were a lot of folk in there that just, well, we're just going to go see a comedy show and had no clue what they were walking into. And he can pick them out. He's like a damn lion with a bunch of gazelles. He can pick out the ones that are kind of a little weak and just blast them. And there were a couple of people in there, but they loved him.
Starting point is 00:37:49 He's such a lovable guy. It didn't matter that he was talking about flying, you know, cunnelingus monkeys in Upper East Tennessee at a place that used to be like a classroom. You can do that. But they loved him. Yes. He got a standing ovation. They couldn't get enough of him. So he has a really incredible knack at being.
Starting point is 00:38:21 vile and disgusting but being lovable at the same time. He pulled it right. I mean, you could just see it crashing. Yeah. And he could just pull it right out. Yeah, he's amazing. And then he would just find some about it. He's amazing. He finds about some circle around him and just like a vulture and just start to dig into him.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah. And then pull it out right the last minute before they got him to try to whip his ass. Yeah, he's just really, really good. So, anyway, if you ever get a chance to see Robert Kelly live, don't miss it. But anyway, all right, you want to answer some questions or something.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Let's do it. Scott, you got anything over there? No, I'm just trying to keep up. Number one thing. Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. Oh, speaking of Ron Bennington, and we do have to talk about our friend, Fez Marie Wattley,
Starting point is 00:39:06 aka Todd Hillier, who passed away tragically. And the thing is, he was such a sweet and lovely guy. And on that show, when it was Fez, Ron, Dave, and Earl that will never be a better show than that, ever, is the level of crazy that was in that room, at least on the air. Yes. Was just, I'll never forget him.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I will miss him every day for the rest of my life. We didn't, we actually became a little bit closer after he left the show. and we did a couple of things together and I tried to keep in touch with him but it was hard to do but I talked to him just I don't know a month
Starting point is 00:39:58 or two ago and he sounded okay but he had like his 47th stant or something and so you know knowing it's coming and knowing it's a natural part of life doesn't make it any easier to deal with so Fez Watley you will be
Starting point is 00:40:14 greatly missed by all your friends, family, and fans for the longest time. And so, you know, he and GVAC are hanging out, and GVAC's playing stupid guitar. Yeah, Rich Voss. I mean, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Rich Voss. I'm going to say Voss. I just looked at him, saw that post over there. He's next. No. Yeah. So, anyway, all right. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:40:37 enough of that. I'm going to, I don't want to start crying on this show. So, let's see. Hey, Dr. Steve. It's Tom from Michigan. Hey, Tom. I just wanted to thank you today I received my first shot of the Pfizer vaccine. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Hey, Dr. Hey, Dr. Wow. I just wanted to play that again. Today, I received my first shot of the Pfizer vaccine. Give yourself a bill. Swore I would never do. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Dude, I just pray to the good Lord above that you didn't do it because I talked about it. and now you have some horrible, you know, Gianberrae syndrome or something. ...in to your podcast. Oh, no. You really explained it well, how it works, and the low risk of the side effects, along with the frequency of them.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I stand by that. I just wanted to call, and I wanted to appreciate or tell you I appreciate you. So, all right, Dr. Steve. All right. You know, we've got to get back. Thank you, man. Cool, man. Good luck with it, and proud of you.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And I hope that everything. works out the way you wanted it to the I stand by that though the the efficacy and the lows adverse effects they're not zero and it's not a hundred percent but I want to get back to talking about dicks and nuts I was talking to yes I talked to Greg Hughes the actor who played opi on opium Anthony and I talked to my friend Carl from WATP and we were just chatting about stuff and I told both of them I I am, this fucking virus has hijacked this show. We used to just have fun, taking tampons and getting women to shove them up their, you know, nether regions and then seeing if they blow anything on their, on their, on their, on their, not on their butt whistles.
Starting point is 00:42:35 If they blow anything on a breathalyzer. And then, yes, butt whistles. I just didn't want to conflate the two things. He was taking a butt whistle. It was taking a long time. Right. And we just used to have fun, and this is no fun. You know, it just kind of sucks.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And now, go fuck yourself. And nobody, who invited you today anyway? Me. Thanks, Dr. Scott. There you go. We need some hotness in here. But anyway. You mentioned Gie A. Gai Gai-Gi-Gi-Ber.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I have a really good friend who was diagnosed with that about a year ago. I don't know anything about it. Okay. Other than what he described it was like the insulation coming off of his nerves. Yeah, that's pretty much right. That's a good way to describe it. But clinically what happens is it's called ascending neuritis. And you start off with weakness in your feet.
Starting point is 00:43:30 You may get a little foot drop and then you may have some trouble walking. And then if it ascends all the way up to the muscles of respiration, now you can't breathe. And that's a problem. So those people end up on an iron lung, which is now a plastic lung, which we call curass ventilation or intubated. And then over time, it usually will descend. So it ascends and then it works its way back down. It may leave deficits.
Starting point is 00:43:59 It may not. Now, during the swine flu of 1970-something, people got vaccinated. They got Gion-Barre syndrome. Well, guess what else gave people? Gianbrae syndrome that year, influenza. So it is a result of the body's immune response to the influenza antigens, whether you get them through a vaccine or you get them from getting the virus. And your risk still, if you get the virus and then you get it, you've got a double whammy chance
Starting point is 00:44:34 of ending up in the hospital and dying. At least if you get it from the vaccine, it's just the single whammy. But anyway, it sucks. But it's, you know, the incidence is extremely low. I've only seen one case of vaccine or no, sorry, viral-related. I've never seen a case of vaccine-related Guillain-Barray, but I've seen one case of vaccine, shit, a virus-related Guillain-Barray. I think his was from a kidney infection or something about his kidney.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, there's lots other things other than, you know, influenza and vaccines that can cause Guillain-Ber-Sindrome syndrome. And sometimes it just happens. You had an asymptomatic viral infection. You don't know about it. And then your body amounts to this immune response,
Starting point is 00:45:14 and it starts attacking your nervous system. But anyway, yeah, that's Gianbury. Yeah, yeah. Excellent question. I was going to say that, too. Were you? Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I'm sorry, I took your thought. It's okay. All right, this is one for Dr. Scott. I really wish stupid PA John had showed up today like he said he was going to because I saved this one for him, but this one for you, Scott. Hi, Dr. Steve, this is Casey. Hey, Casey. I'm going in for torn rotator cup surgery.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I have to have it done on both shoulders. Of course, we're going to do it one at a time. Okay, good. But I was wondering if there is anything I can do to the healing process instead of being out of work for four to six months. Love your show. O&A. and listen to your show all the time.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Hey, thanks, man. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for your support. So, Dr. Scott, he's saying six months for recovery from rotator cuff surgery. That seems a little long, unless you were an elite athlete. I don't see, depending on what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:46:22 If he's working in some kind of job where he's got to do a lot of overhead stuff, lifting, maybe he works at a warehouse for somebody, then he may be out for a long time. A couple things you can do just prior to surgery is exercise, strengthening, the surrounding tissues, making sure you maintain a lot of flexibility in the shoulders. One of the complications, Dr. Steve, as you know, though, with rotator cuffs, if they're diabetic, they're going to have a whole lot more difficulty healing because of the diabetes. But if you're pretty healthy and you're pretty strong and the surgery goes really well, as long as your physical therapist.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Depends on the surgery, too, right? That's what I was going to say. It depends on what's torn and what they have to do. the anchors that they use, et cetera, and we don't, of course, we don't know those things, but the hope is that the surgery goes extremely well, and the post-surgical care with the physical therapy is going to be the key to getting you back into the game quicker.
Starting point is 00:47:17 So there's not a lot of shortcuts to this, but you need to do what your surgeon says and your physical therapist says, and hopefully that'll get you moving quicker. It really matters to, so it depends on your job and whether your job caused the problem. Right. Because if your job caused the problem,
Starting point is 00:47:37 you're going to be on light duty. He's right for about four to six months. Of course. And now, if you're playing stupid disc golf, and that's what caused your rotator cuff injury, then just stop playing that stupid game. Or whatever. Sorry to the disc golf fans.
Starting point is 00:47:57 I was a little judge. Well, it's because my buddy from, It's because he can't play bitch. It's my buddy. It's my buddy Logan Field. That's his thing. He plays disco. I'm just messing with him.
Starting point is 00:48:08 But no, it's a... And I'm pissed at him because he and his girlfriend were supposed to come to Chicago for the WATP live thing. And I ended up having to have Carl from WATP raffle off my tickets because I have three extra tickets. So God knows who I'm going to be sitting with. I have their names, but I don't know any Hopefully they'll be cool But anyway So I'm pissed at John
Starting point is 00:48:37 So disc golf is stupid At an event like that I'm sure it's going to be a lot of really cool people I'm pretty sure I thought they're going to be Well I'm wearing my Doug Bell shirt And you guys don't know who Doug Bell is No but I think we've got a block of eight
Starting point is 00:48:52 For whenever Creepful Kids comes back Oh really? Oh yeah Yeah we got a block of eight four and four Yeah Okay Yeah talking to the mic though when you say hello Jesus so anyway but to our friend hey stretch strengthen before and then get back to it and again if if you've got a job that's not heavily reliant on your shoulders
Starting point is 00:49:12 if you're on a computer or something you'll be back a whole lot quicker yeah yeah sounds good good good right yeah man all right uh let's do an ask question for once oh cool yes thank god it's not a problem yeah hey i was in the shower and i was digging around back there if you know what i mean and I found Wait a minute digging a rat back there if I know what you mean How do you know?
Starting point is 00:49:37 Was he mining for something? Yeah, we need some music. We need some music. Okay, wait a minute. And how does Steve know what he's doing in the shower? That's what I was wondering. What are you mining for back there? I had Dr. Steve.
Starting point is 00:49:51 There we go. Hey, I was in the shower and I was digging around back there if you know what I mean. And I found like a piece size, maybe a little smaller because it's my finger, like bubble or something. And I think this must be a hemorrhoid, but everything online says that that's, you know, real fat guy. I'm not a real fat guy.
Starting point is 00:50:15 What? Well, what do you think is in my butt there is Dr. Steve? Yeah. Yeah, Dr. Steve, what's in his butt? Guess what's in my butt. So, that'd be a cool game show. I think they've done that. I think Howard's done that.
Starting point is 00:50:31 It's too bad because that'd be a good one. So, yeah, it's not just big fat guys. It's mostly people who are on this highly processed low-fiber American diet. Aren't hemorrhoids painful? They don't have to be. They can be painless. They're very painful when they clawed off. And I used to drive GVAC, who used to sit in your chair.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And as you know, and I would drive him crue. crazy describing the procedure for removing a thrombost external hemorrhoid. Because those people come in. Let's talk about what a hemorrhoid is. And then maybe if we have time, we'll get the thrombost external hemorrhoid. But those people are the most grateful people because they come in with pain 10 out of 10. They leave pain free. But a hemorrhoid is just a vericose vein of your ass.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And now why do you get those? Because of pressure. When you strain to stool, then you, you, you, you're, you. you will increase the pressure in those veins. And if the vein wall fails, it will bloop out and now you've got a hemorrhoid. They could be internal so that you would only feel them if they got so big that they would bloop out of your asshole. Or they could be external, which means you could feel them if you're just feeling around, digging
Starting point is 00:51:53 around back there. So he probably just has an external hemorrhoid, and if it hasn't clotted off, it won't necessarily be painful. What's it look like if it's clotted? It's just bigger. It looks like a giant engorged tick. Because I had to cut one of those off a friend of mine one day. Looks angry. Oh, my God. It looks angry, yeah. And you did it without anesthesia? Gordy red. Oh, yeah. And tell me what came out of it because I know exactly what came out of it. Well, there was a white bubble that came out, like a little rock pearl-sized white. What? Yeah. I don't know what you. I cut it. You may have done like a cancer biopsy.
Starting point is 00:52:28 it right out. Okay. I don't know that that was a hemorrhoid. She just saved somebody's life. They said it hurts so bad. I'd say it did. Awesome. No, what's inside a thrombost external hemorrhoid is stuff that looks like red current jelly.
Starting point is 00:52:42 That's how they describe it. Claude blood. Yeah, it's clotted blood. Well, there was blood, too, but it wasn't cloudy. It looks like current jelly. And if anything white came out, it was probably an infected something or other. I saved her life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Or like we said, it was colon, you know, rectal cans. and you just did a biopsy. Didn't bother to send it off. Exactly. Nope. But anyway, it's, yeah. Most luckily, external hemorrhoid. But that's what, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And so increase the amount of fiber in your diet. And I don't even think I have the citrus cell drop anymore. I think I got rid of it. Oh, no, it's here. We haven't used it in forever. Citrusat. Citrusat. Citruset.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Citruset. Citruset. Citrus cell. So, Citra Cell, which we have not mentioned in the longest time, thanks COVID. It used to be every show. We did a question where we had to mention Citrus cell. It's always poop. Yes, because people are calling about poop problems and stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:45 But Citrus cell is a non-digestable, soluble fiber, so it doesn't cause bloating and flatus and erectations, aka belching, but it does increase the fiber in your stool and therefore decrease the density and therefore decrease the amount of pressure that's required for you to shit it out. Should we give us some other ideas in case it wasn't a hemorrhoids? Of course. Oh, no, he's got to get a check.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah, if he is large, he may have some skin tags or something if he's diabetic. Now, skin tags could be old external hemorrhoids that have resolved and then you end up, if you have a bunch of skin tags around the end up, outside of your anus, it's either warts, anal wards, or it's old hemorrhoids. But, yeah, give them the other stuff. And then we can talk about how they diagnose it.
Starting point is 00:54:35 At least we know it's not COVID. Yeah, right. Do we know? Give yourself a BEL. So what they will do is they'll put you on your side, put your knees up around your chest, lube up your nether region. Yes. And then...
Starting point is 00:54:54 And hopefully... What is that music? I know, I'm sorry. And hopefully a finger. They'll lube up your nether region. And then they have this thing called an anoscope. Now, what anescope is... How do they get that name?
Starting point is 00:55:05 It's weird. I don't know how... What should we call it? ...etymology of that word is. It's a butt plug. It is kind of like a butt plug. It's a sort of like a pewter funnel-looking thing. So it's tapered and rounded.
Starting point is 00:55:21 And then you jam it in there. And then you pull this slot out. So now there's a slot in there. So you've got a funnel with a slot, and you can rotate the anoscope around. And if there are any hemorrhoids in there, they'll kind of bloop into that slot when it comes around. So if you've got a hemorrhoid at 3 o'clock, when the slot comes around around 2.30, 3 o'clock, and bloop, it'll bloop right in there, and you can see it. So anoscopy is a real simple thing to do. There's no fiber optics.
Starting point is 00:55:48 There's nothing. You just need a light and an anoscope. And if they see it, if they're a proctologist, they might band it right there. Otherwise, you know, they'll say, yeah, it's a hemorrhoid and give you some cream and stuff. And then if you need surgery down the road, they'll do it. So, and the surgery is pretty simple. Or you can call me. Oh, yeah, just have Diane.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I was looking for the two-finger prostate exam, you know, do yourself at home kit. Yeah. I bought it off Amazon. The advanced one's three fingers. good of a friend that somebody asked me and I came running and chop that thing off. That is a pretty damn good friend. Well, and on
Starting point is 00:56:28 that note, let's get out of here. You know, we can't forget Rob Sprantz, Bob Kelly, Greg Hughes, Anthony Coomia, Jim Norton, Travis Teft, that gould girl. Lewis Johnson, Paul Offcharsky, Chowdy 108, Eric Nagel,
Starting point is 00:56:44 the Port Charlotte Hoare, Lady Diagnosis, the Saratoga Skang, Roland Hampo's, sister of Chris, Sam Robert, she who owns Pigs and Snakes, Pat Duffy, Dennis Falcone, Matt Kleinschmidt, Dale Dudley, Holly from the Gulf, Steve Tucci, times three, the great Rob Bartlett, Vicks, Netherfluids, Casey's wet t-shirt, Carl's deviated septum, Bernie and Sid, Martha from Arkansas's daughter, Ron Bennington, oh, I'm not taking this out of here, and Fez Watley, whose support of this show has never gone unappreciated. I mean, it's still true. Or, you know, departed or no, he's staying in the damn outro. Absolutely. I don't know anybody gets this far anyway, but God.
Starting point is 00:57:28 I mean, Fez was right there at the very beginning, all that stuff. I'm not taking him out just because he's gone. Listen to our Sirius XM show on the Faction Talk channel, Sirius XM, Channel 103, Saturdays at 7 p.m. Eastern, Sunday at 6 p.m. Eastern, on-demand, and other times at Jim McClure's pleasure. Many thanks to our listeners whose voicemail and topic ideas make this job very easy. easy. Stacey, you got any plugs? Nope. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Go to our website at Dr. Steve.com for schedules and podcasts and other crap. Do you want to plug that charity from your friend? Maybe she'll start talking to you again. You're right. Do you remember what it was? Yes, yes, yes. Bugles Across America. Yes, bugles across America.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Check it out. And then Bat Coal Foundation for pediatric cancer. And that's B-A-T-C-O-L-E, right? Yes. Bat Coal Foundation, yeah. send them all the money until next time check your stupid nuts for lumps quit smoking get off your asses and get some exercise we'll see you in one week for the next edition of weird mess You know, oh, oh, I'm going to be able to be.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Thank you.

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