Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 468 - Massive Pile of Purulent Excrement

Episode Date: August 26, 2021

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Don't forget Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. That's simplyerbils.net. So listen, I said last time, I started doing this show because it was fun, and we got to talk about dicks and nuts, and we got to hang out with Opie and Anthony, and we'd met all these cool people.

I mean, Bobby Kelly is Uncle Robert to my kids because of this show. So we're not going to quit doing it or anything, but we've got to get it back to being fun again. And so I'm just telling everybody who's listening, who's sick of this topic, that this is the last show that we're going to discuss the Stacey Deloach thing. It's now it's been four shows and people are still calling in, and I don't blame you. I get it. On both sides, I've got to tell you, Dr. Scott, it's been kind of evenly. You know, not unlike our country, evenly divided between people who are like, yeah, you know, I understand why Stacey did that.

Other people saying, if you keep having him on, we're never going to listen again. So anyway, I do have some things about that, and there are several Stacey blowback calls. We'll talk about that. For those that don't know, Stacey Deloche is a guy, maybe I shouldn't say, is a guy. maybe I shouldn't say his last name, but hell, he said it. Well, he said it. I offered to erase the whole thing, and he said no. So anyway, these guys have been on this show a bunch of he was friends with Vic Henley,

and he, you know, paid somebody to give him a, what he says is right. It's not a fake COVID card. It's just not a truthful COVID card. It's a true vaccine card, but he paid somebody to give it to him. So, anyway, so there's a lot of controversy about that. And, you know, I don't mind some controversy. I mean, I'll stick my head out. Cancer's bad.

You know, get it, Dr. Scott. I really stuck my neck out for it. But anyway, so, but I'm not cool with this. Nobody is really cool with it. Everybody's tired of effing hearing about it. But I just, I do want to say this one thing. Everyone who listens to this show, if you listen enough, you know that I am not a nambi-pambi pro-vaccine person in the sense that there are vaccines that I think are, you know, I don't see the evidence for, and I don't highly recommend them. Don't do anything because I said it, though.

Talk to your provider, but not a big fan of this varicella vaccine for a lot of reasons. But I will, and I also not some kind of, you know, you know, Ivermectin hits on the way and, you know, one of those people either. I got in trouble on Twitter because somebody, you know, was like, is there even science behind this Ivermectin thing? I just answered them straight. Yeah, there is science behind it.

Here's what it is. You know, here are the moieties that are inhibited by, by ivermectin, and that's why people are studying at their 72 studies on Clinical Trials.gov, and then somebody got on there yelling at me because I was too pro-Ivermectin. It's like, that's, I was just answering a fucking question. Not picking aside, just giving some science. Well, I'm picking a side of science. I'm interested in science.

Yes, there is science behind it. We are studying it. Do we have a double-blind placebo-controlled multi-center? randomized trial that shows statistically significant difference that's going to make a difference in this pandemic? No, we don't have that yet, but we will. Yeah. And when we do, if it's effective, maybe it's only effective in certain people or certain stages,

then that's what we'll use it for. Right. Or maybe it won't be effective at all. Right. We don't know. And I go to these sites where they say, well, there's 86% of studies show, you know, a 50% improvement and it's like you go down all those studies and some of them are just articles from newspapers they're not clinical trials we need I'm going to say

this one more time randomized multi-center you know so that they're large enough right in a diverse enough population double-blinded placebo-controlled studies that show a statistically significant advantage to giving ivermectin or any Any other thing. It can be anything. It can be anything. That's what we got to have. That's how we know things.

So when we have that, then we'll, you know, hell, I'll write the hell out of it. Sure, sure. But anyway. But it can't be one person that got some of my microphone as buddy. No. That's getting better. Even a doctor who says, well, I gave it to a hundred of my patients and all of them got better. I can give nothing to a hundred of my patients.

And they might get better. And they will get better. Most, you know, almost every cohort I have. because the ones that don't get better is, you know, is around one in a hundred. Sure. So you could flip a hundred-sided coin, you know. You could flip a hundred times, yeah. Yeah, you could flip up anyway.

We know, yeah. You know what I'm saying. I do, yeah. I think it's a vain ass. Anyway. So, anyway, I will tell you guys this. And this is not sign. in the sense that I don't have the kind of day.

This is my experience. Okay. So in that sense, it's anecdotal. But we have 282 people in the hospital right now. And we've got, and the average age has dropped. From the beginning of the pandemic, the average age was 75. Yes. All those people have gotten vaccinated.

Yes. So what we're seeing now is the average age is right around 56. And you can go, and I had a nurse tell me the other day, we were in the ICU, and she goes, ventilator, ventilator, ventilator, ventilator, ventilator, ventilator, unvaccinated, unvaccinated, unvaccinated, unvaccinated, unvaccinated. Yep. Simple math. Well, I mean, the vast, vast majority of people who are getting in trouble with this,

although the vast, vast majority of people won't get in trouble with it. Correct. But the ones that do, the one, the unlucky lottery, the minority of people, who get really sick with this are almost overwhelmingly, well, no, they are overwhelmingly unvaccinated. Now, do we have a few that are, well, I heard a guy had, you know, two shots of the vaccine, he still got sick and not, yes, we will have those. Yep, yep. But those are so rare that we, that's why we hear about them. But even, even at that, the vast majority of people that have the breakthrough cases do

extremely well. They don't have all the side effects of the COVID. like the loss. Yeah, give a shit about cases. Don't tell me about cases. Tell me about hospitalizations and the rate. So what happens is if you have a very low hospitalization rate, let's say 1% of people who get, you know, have a symptomatic case. So if you have 100 cases, you'll get one person in the hospital.

Right. But if you have 10,000, now you'll have 100. And if you have, what, 100,000, you'll have 1,000, you know. So we're dealing with the magic of large numbers right now because this version of the virus is so transmissible. It grabs on a little easier and it makes more copies of itself. So it can kiss my ass because I thought this was over and now it ain't over. And we're getting our asses kicked in the hospital. So if anybody, I can't even take you into the hospital to show you around now.

But if you think that this is not real, you know, anyway. Anyway, so I'm not telling you all to do anything, do what you got to do you. Sure. I'm just, I'm frustrated that this stupid virus has hijacked this show that we used to do, you know, rectal exam, prostate exams on celebrities and do vodka tampons and just talk about dicks and nuts. and I'm looking back at all of our... Good stuff. At our phone calls. So today,

virus misinformation. Vaccine versus COVID antibodies. Vaccine question. Oh, testosterone and apnea. Good. Stacey blowback. Stacey blowback, too. Most successful vaccine,

hot tubs and immunity. You know, nobody ever asked about immunity back in the beginning. So now I go back. They wouldn't know whether... Give a shit. Pecker wasn't working. Yeah.

Well, hey, why was my peepin? Let's go to 2012. Here we go. White bumps on base of penis. What diet should I do? When I come, I don't shoot. What to do with narcotics once you're dead? What the hell is that?

Vidaligo. You know, it was more fun. Swamp ass. Super pubic fat pad. I remember every one of these, I think. Well, I do. We just say, same one over and over again. Souse meat follow-up.

We did a whole thing. on crazy foods in the grocery store, including sousemeat. One of my favorite of the shit meats. Souse meat is pig parts in gelatin with some seasoning like red peppers and stuff. And what they do, and if you look at the ingredients, it'll say pig snouts, pig lips, pig tails. Oh, my gosh. And I remember one time I picked up a pack of southeastern. Soutes meat, and it's clear, kind of.

It's gelatin. And there was a circular piece with two circular other, you know, holes in the middle of it, and it was a perfect cross-section of a pig nose. Pig snap. They just sliced this poor pig snap. And then just threw it in the sats meat. Oh, gross.

So anyway, you used to do all that stuff. It was fun. So we will get back to the fun. But this will be the last time we're going to talk. talk about Stacey and his and his prevarication. He's the vaccine prevaricator. But anyway, so all right, you're ready to take some questions? Let's do it, Dr. Steve.

We've got a lot of them to do. Good. All right. Here we go. Oh, for F.C. A long-time listener and very disappointed in your views on the vaccine and how effective they are. Oh, really?

Not talking about the theirs data and that type of stuff. Okay. Okay. Okay, okay, I'm in the mood to have a conversation with somebody. VERS data, don't worry, listen, VERS data is the vaccine, it's, you know, an adverse event. Anybody can post to that. You could post 100 things to that right now. So feel free.

Go try it and see. What we're looking at or looking for is true risk versus benefit data and the risk to, you know, not getting the vaccine, well, okay, the, the risk of the vaccine is far overwhelmed by orders of magnitude to the benefit. You know, in other words, the benefit is much greater than the risk. And that has been study after study. If it bears data, all that is is it just alerts the government in case there's some trends like the people that had the sagittal sinus thrombosis there were what we worked it out was about

one in a million there were four million doses given and there were four cases if I remember correctly I think it's close I'd have to look it up again I don't want to be wrong but so I'm just it was something like that very close yep and it worked out to about four a year if I remember that's what it was and which is the normal that was the normal the normal occurrence of it anyway thank you the prevalence the incidents the incidents of it in the in the general population it worked out to about the same yes so but they that they may have been alerted to that by veers and that's the utility of veers otherwise there's really no utility to it whatsoever it's just it's like the canary and the coal mine if you see something then that's that's

alerts the investigators to look further and see if they see anything there. But you've got to do it with real data, not just self-reported stuff. Sir, go to VERS right now and see if you can upload an adverse thing right now, yourself. Just do it. Yeah, and see what you can do it. All right. So I'm not impressed by that. But anyway, go on with the next.

And listen, what have I told you? I'm just telling you what the data shows. it's up to you whether you get the vaccine. But I am, I'm just telling you, the people, yeah, if you don't get the vaccine, most of you will do just fine. Yes. I've said that from the beginning. Most people won't get this and the ones that do, most of them won't die. But if you want to reduce your risk, and we talk about that all the time on this show, you can't prevent yourself from dying.

But by quitting smoking, you do reduce. the risk of dying sooner. Pretty much surely, sure. And so it's all about risk mitigation. So if you don't want to mitigate your risk, that's up to you. And those out there that are scared of the virus and the vaccine, just stay home. Let the rest of us do our thing, though. Yep, yep.

And if you need to go out, at least wear a mask and not bitch about it, at least a little bit. Because if you're unvaccinated, you may be infected. Sure. That's the only still, to me, just we got to remember that. mask don't prevent you from getting sick, they reduce transmission by a small percentage. Not 100%. But it's enough. Yeah, at least help. I just check the R sub T, you know, I don't want to go through R sub T again and again and

again, but there's, you can go to our website that says COVID data sites and go to Dr. Steve.com, go to that. And the top one is the new version of RT.Live. and what they have is R sub T, which is the number of people that one person infects in the normal population. Even with this delta virus, it's like 1.1 to, you know, 1 to 1.1, 1.2 in most of the country, which is in that area where it's so low that masking actually can have an effect. fact. So you can mask.

I'm not saying mask mandates. What I'm saying is that if you, listen to me, I'm just, listen how fucking mad I am. I know it's ridiculous.

Breathe grasshopper. And I'm not mad at anybody. I'm mad at the virus. So y'all don't get the wrong idea that I'm yelling at you. I'm not. But if you have an R sub T of 1 to 1.1,

then wearing masks, even if it fails 90% of the time to reduce transatl, If people did it, it would reduce transmission enough that 10% to drive you below one, and then your cases will start to decline, which is what we want right now. That's all we're asking for us. Anyway, all right, so. And then VAERS, it's useful, doesn't tell me anything. I absolutely will not get the vaccine as long as I can avoid it.

Okay. Then don't. Dude, that's your choice right now. Now, if your employer mandates it, now you're going to have to, you're going to have to, are you going to stand up and say, I don't want to do this? And here's my reasons why, because I'm concerned. Let me give you a, I will even give you the argument to use. I'm concerned about antibody dependent enhancement. Go back.

I keep saying, hey, we've talked about this a thousand times because we have. That's the one concern that I actually have some interest in. we haven't seen any we vaccinated how many people have been vaccinated now let's ask echo yeah echo how many people in the world have had the COVID vaccine this might answer your question Tennessee is in the final phase of the COVID-19 vaccine echo stop can you just look it up I will anyway um she's dumb but you're talking about what you're talking about is if your employer yeah yeah well Yeah. Anyway, we've vaccinated about 2 billion people. There have been 2 billion doses, and we have not seen antibody dependent enhancement yet. And that's where when you are re-exposed to a similar pathogen that the antibodies actually increase your risk of having a bad outcome. And they saw that in coronavirus vaccines in cats, but they were actually creating a different part of the coronavirus.

body. They weren't just doing the spike protein, and that may have had some input in this or impact on this. But that would be the reason. But are you going to stand up and say, I'm not doing it, or are you just going to go ahead and get it now that it's FDA approved and your employer is demanding it of you? That's a choice you got to make for yourself. I'm not telling you to get a vaccine. I'm telling you what I see out there is that all the people that I'm taking care of right now with very few exceptions are the unvaccinated. Yeah, I agree. Me too.

I'm the same. I've got the same vocal crutch, dude. Don't worry about it. I'd like to hear your opinions about, you know, the over 12,000 people have died when. Yeah, okay, 12,000. I don't even know that that's true. Let's just say that is true. Okay.

So how many have we prevented from? dying. See, it's hard to prove a negative. But what I can tell you is, is that after we got the first push of vaccinations, the people who in this area, okay, so Tennessee's got very low. Vaccination. It's like 30-something to 40 percent, 30 to 40 percent. But in the vulnerable population, it's crazy high. Yeah, I'll say it's very misleading.

When this thing first started, we were seeing 60, 70, and 80-year-olds on the vent and just dying right and left. And it was horrendous. And after the first push of the vaccine, after about, you know, four to six weeks, all of a sudden, uh-uh. Now the average age of the people that are being admitted are in their 50s and they're almost all unvaccinated. So, dude, that's all I can tell you. You know, the, let me just. see let's let's look at I'll look this up deaths from COVID vaccine and let's just see here because I'm sure there have been some of course we know that those people at the sagittal sinus thrombosis

died whether that was related to the vaccine though is in question because the prevalence sorry the incidence of that was very similar to the regular population and may I show you real quick what I yeah yeah it was five billion doses of being given oh yeah really Almost two billion completely, completely vaccinated. Two billion. That's a big number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is, okay, anaphylaxis is rare.

Two to five million people per million vaccinated in the United States, severe allergic reactions. Two to five people per million. Okay, the thrombosis and thrombocitopenia syndrome after Johnson and Johnson's vaccine. was rare. 14 million doses were given and they had 44 confirmed reports and that was women younger than 50

and two confirmed cases were followed so they've only had two confirmed cases following MRNA vaccine and that was Moderna and that was reported to VERS and that was after 346 million doses. So they believe that those were sporadic and not related to the vaccine.

So I don't know where this 12,000 people died. I know there have been, a lot of people have gotten really sick. There was myocarditis and paracarditis. As of August 18th, the VERS received 1,300 reports of myocarditis or paracarditis. That's inflammation of the heart. Among people ages 30 and younger who relieve the COVID-19 vaccine. But of the, you know, my understanding is the vast majority. majority of those people recovered. Okay, here we go. Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination

are rare. More than 363 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14th through August 23rd. During this time, and this is VERS data, this isn't any of them have this confirmed, received 6,000 reports of death, and that ends up being 0.0019% among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. Now, they have to report any death after COVID-19 vaccine. So if they had a heart attack or had a car wreck, that gets reported. So, you know, just reports of adverse events to the VERS, including deaths, doesn't mean that the vaccine caused the health problem.

So they're looking at this stuff, and they said recent reports indicate a plausible causal relationship between the J&J. Jansen vaccine and that TTS, even though that is exceedingly rare. And it did cause some people to die. But I don't see where this 12,000 numbers is coming from. Unless

it's over the whole world, and that's possible because, hell, you give $5 billion something, 12,000 bad things. You're surely going to have. Yes, one of the thing. And when you hate it for those $12,000. Oh, God, of course. But, I mean, if you gave that guy $5 billion, the odds of $5 billion to $12.

Yeah, right, right. I'm pretty sure he'd take it. Of course, he might not. He might say that. You mean, if I gave him those odds and said, these are the odds that you will lose if you'd go to Vegas. Yeah, all of us would bet every single penny we had. Most of us.

There may be people like this gentleman that say it's a hoax. Well, they're just very risk adverse. Yeah, which is okay. And that's fine. But this is, to me, kind of, and people can argue with me about it, kind of like saying I'm not going to wear my seatbelt because if I get in a wreck, I don't want to be trapped in my car. Knowing that if you're in a wreck and you get thrown from the car, you've got a 50% chance of dying. Whereas they've estimated your risk of dying from being trapped in your car if you wear your seatbells about one in a million accidents, not one in a million people, but one in a million, you know, civilians. your accident. So anyway, so there you go, dude. I don't know what to tell you. I'm sorry

you're disappointed. I think my approach to this vaccine thing is pretty balanced. It's science-based. You know, I think there's a lot of bad information out there on both sides. Yes. And there shouldn't be any sides. That's the thing. There should just be one side, and that's human beings helping human beings, and that we're all on the same. side but apparently there's effing sides in this but I see I hear misinformation from the you know for both sides of the the crazy you know lockdown people and then the crazy you know I don't want to say they're crazy the lockdown people are crazy but when you're talking about putting small businesses out of

business yet again I'm not cool with that we can there we can mitigate this We can work together to figure out a better way. Yes, thank you, Dr. Scott. Good God. A bill? Oops, oh, wait, what? Give yourself a bill. Instead of working against each other and rooting against things like Ivermectin, rooting against it.

Yeah, let's hope it helps. I mean, that would be wonderful. I mean, that would be wonderful. I mean, I'd love it if acupuncture cured this thing. Oh, me too, God, it would be the best thing for you. I could retire for weird medicine. I do you sure could. But, you know, you know,

I'm rooting for anything to work because I'm effing sick of this. My wife is sick of it. She's miserable. She's out on the road. They're not calling her out of the road yet, even though a lot of the offices are closed. And, you know, it's just, it's not a fun time. All right. Very good.

Excellent call, though. I'm happy to address those things. Let me see if you had anything else. During the H1N1, system they pulled the virus, went 50 people. That what now? I don't know what he's saying there, but the H1N1, it had a death rate of around 0.1%. This one, we thought, was three, which was horrifying. Just imagine if we had an Ebola that you could transmit easily among people, and you've got 90% mortality.

That's dang, I Am Legend type stuff or the stand right there. fortunately it just doesn't work that way you know knock on wood but the H1N1 I agree with you nobody did anything and we had two people one that was a friend of the show who died

we had a bunch of people in the hospital then that died from H1N1 it was a true pandemic and nothing was done and then our buddy Richard David Smith the the CEO of hyperphysics Check out Hyper F-I-Z-I-C-S on the interwebs.

They make a energy drink for nerds. But he almost died. I mean, he was on the vent. To me, that's almost dying. Yes. Of a virus. So, anyway. All right.

Did you look up vaccine versus COVID natural antibodies by any chance? No, no, chip. Okay. Will you do that? Sure. Sure. Sure. This one.

Let's see. Hi, Dr. Steve. This is Samantha from Pennsylvania. I was just wondering, I was prior service, and I went over to Qatar, was vaccinated for everything, including SARS. Okay. So I was wondering if that would cover not getting the vaccine, like if that would be a good enough excuse for not getting it,

or if there's something I'm just not aware of. Thank you for your time. That's an excellent question, and you're going to need to ask, you know, your infectious disease specialist. Because if you were vaccine, I didn't realize they had a vaccine for the original SARS. Let me just see, SARS vaccine. See, I'm out of the loop on that one. Are you aware of that? I didn't think they ever got that far.

That neither. So I'm wondering, okay, could a vaccine against SARS prevent COVID-19? Let me see. You got me on that one. I don't know the answer. I'm not aware that there is a SARS vaccine. Now, they may have given you SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, which is COVID-19. Because this is a SARS virus, severe acute respiratory.

syndrome virus. And so I wonder if that's what they gave you. But the virologists, they're listening, I'm sure there's tons of those are all yelling at the radio right now. But I'm just doing a quick search on that. I don't see anything about SARS vaccine. Now, here's an interesting thing. What they found was that the COVID-19 vaccine actually unlocked enhanced immunity.

in former SARS patients in Asia. That's pretty cool. Now, you don't want antibody dependent enhancement that you don't want. But apparently they had an enhanced immune response because they had already seen a virus that was close to this one. That's kind of interesting. All right. Okay, dokey. Sorry, I don't have a better answer for you than that.

But just look at your card and see, if you want to send it to me, go. to Dr. Steve.com and click contact and send your vaccine card to me, and I'll look at it and see if I can dope something out. All right. Here, let's do some Stacey blowback. Let's get this out of the way. Hi, Dr. Steve. This is Mike from Ohio.

Hey, Mike. I just want to say when I hear people speak about their wealth, how tough they are, or rationalize an unacceptable decision, my bullshit. shit meter goes off. Well, unacceptable to you. Obviously, it's acceptable to them, but anyway. Stacey, the roach, is full of shit.

It appears he's chosen to model himself after Trump the liar. Okay, okay. Now I see where this guy's coming. Why do we have to bring the former president into this? This isn't a political thing. I mean, maybe it is. You don't know,

Stacy could be, you know, he could be one of them, one of them laughings. You just don't know. I don't think so. Well, I don't, you don't know. We never brought up. But anyway. I like how he said he's full of shit, though. That's true. Because he is right. He's saying what I couldn't say.

Here, let's see. Hey, Dr. Steve. Hey, man. It's your buddy, Pat. Hey, Pat. Jim from Massachusetts. Oh, Jim. Pat Jim. I'm not going to yell this time. Okay, thank you. I listen to your show. Good. The most recent one with your buddy, Stace.

Wow, that's all I can say. Well, that's what we were saying. And people were like, well, you know, why did you keep him in the studio? It's like, well, number one, he's our friend. And number two, we like watching a train wreck live. Yes, and the thing is, is that you can't shine a light on something and chase it away at the same time.

And I'm not here to make enemies. And I'm not a big fan of, like I said, of, you know, you know, big controversy on this show because it distracts from what we're actually trying to do, which is have fun and talk about medical stuff. It just so happened. We've got this global pandemic, and Jim and Sam don't know how to talk about it. I mean, I love those guys. Well, they know how to talk about how it affects them, but as far as the science and stuff,

you know what I mean. Dr. Teft isn't an actual doctor. Do they call them that? I think so. Anyway. By the way, I heard Dr. Steve Bell on Jim and Sam the other day. Oh, I am obsessed with Doug Bell. Scott doesn't know who I'm talking about because he doesn't listen to any of this stuff.

But Doug Bell is one of Jim's characters, and he tells these endless, stultifyingly boring stories about Hollywood and stuff. And it's all, you know, I was hanging out with Jen Lopez. You know, it's all these diminutive versions of people's names. And I said, I wondered if he ever hung out with Jack Gacy. Anyway, some people will get that. But they, anyway, he did Dr. Steve Bell the other day. Just because he knows I'm obsessed with it, he sent me a Doug Bell, two Doug Bell t-shirts and a Doug Bell mug bell mug.

And I will be wearing the Doug Bell T-shirt to the WATP live event, which, if you're listening to this on Saturday night, it's happening right now in Lombard, Illinois. And I'm hoping not to catch a breakthrough case of Delta variant COVID and not to be murdered. So if neither one of those things happen, I will consider it a success. This will be the first weekend I've spent away from home. without my family since way before COVID so so anyway know a clue where I am oh yeah but anyway why I'm why was I bringing up Doug Bell see what he's in my head anyway but let me just went down my notes as I was listening to his defense why he did what he did as far as okay this call is three minutes long so

I'll I'll cut it short at about a minute his vaccination records So in the course of your short interview with him, we hear, number one, the reason he did it was, well, I have this job, and I was going to get paid $50,000. Yeah, I had a problem with that. So, yeah, that's why I did it. Okay. And surprisingly, you say, I get that. No, I do get it. I, listen, that doesn't mean I condone it.

I get why people are motivated to do certain things. I get it that people don't want to pay their taxes. I'm not saying I agree with them cheating on their taxes. I'm just saying, I understand. Yeah, and when you cheat on your taxes, I pay more. So that sucks. That's a whole other story. But that course.

So when I say I get that, I can empathize with someone's motivations. It doesn't mean I agree with. what they did to accomplish their goals, okay? And if I didn't make that clear enough, that's on me, because, no, I don't condone this at all. And other people got on me, well, you know, you cut him slack on, he didn't corrupt that woman, she was already corrupted. I'm just glad that he didn't, he, a friend of mine didn't corrupt a 22-year-old nurse.

She was already totally corrupt, and, you know, it doesn't. doesn't excuse anything. I'm just glad he wasn't the one that did it. And if you can't understand that, I don't know what to tell you. That's just, you don't want somebody you know being that craven, you know, that's a... Come back to the tape. You said that. I get that you did this, but you... Yeah, I got... Yes, I got it. I said that, and I got it, and I hope I explained what I meant. To get $50,000. But we... I digress. Then we go to the next thing. Oh, you can't digress when you're going point by point.

So, anyway, it's okay, dude. It's because the Hollywood types are telling me to get it. Yeah, now, I don't get that either. That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. So, okay, we agree on that. Vaccinated. Hmm.

I'm not sure who he's talking about. I don't watch commercial TV, so maybe there are some commercials out there with Hollywood people telling us to get vaccinated. I don't know who he's talking about. But you know who else is telling us to get vaccinated? Just about every medical professional in this country. Yes, thank you.

Also, just about. Give yourself a bill. Politician, both Republican and Democrat. And you know what? Every country on this earth's government, whether it's communist, totalitarian, telepratic. What a half you? I know what you meant.

Everybody in the world is saying get vaccinated. Well, except not everybody, but I know what you mean. There's an overwhelming number of people are saying that I understand. I get it. I get what you're saying. How's that? See, it works. Then it turns into, well, it's not FDA approved.

That's why I don't want to get vaccinated. Okay. And I think one of you, maybe you said it. So if it gets FDA approved, you would get vaccinated. Right. It's backed off on that, too. Yes. Right.

That's like my kids saying, you know, oh, I don't want a salad from chickful, this terrible example, because it's too, there's too much of a line there. So I get there, and there's no line, and so I get them a salad, and they go, oh, I didn't want a salad. And it's like, well, wait a minute. So you just didn't want one. But you used that there was a line there to make yourself sound like you had a valid, you know, you were going out of your way to be nice to me. Whereas what it really was was you just didn't want to say you didn't want a salad. Again, a terrible example, but you kind of, I mean, is that a valid analogy?

Close. Yeah. It's close enough. Close enough. Okay. I like analogies, but I'm having a hard time coming up with them today because I'm pissed. And the whole story about the woman that he gave the $100 to, you know, we're just assuming that that's all true. Well, that's all you can do when everybody tells you a story.

Hell, he may have gotten the damn vaccine. He's got a card says he did. This could all be bullshit. Yeah. Just to wind us up. We don't know. Yep. So you're right.

It could all be bullshit. Everything could be bullshit. The whole world is absurd. This universe is absurd. The fact that we're here to be the eyes and ears and to be the entities that allow the universe to regard itself is absurd. So, okay. That he knew that this person was doing. this as a regular side business.

Well, yeah, I mean, it's like you go to a prostitute, and you know that Nelly June down there in the holler will give you a Yankee cranky for, you know, then, yeah, then that's who you go to. You don't go to the old widder woman next door and just, you know, you know. Who offers this for free? Well, she may not be giving you the real thing. Well, maybe. I don't know.

But anyway, again, a terrible analogy. I'm just full of terrible analysis. Now I'm making it worse. Sorry. I don't know if it's true. But you take it at his word. Of course. When he can't even keep his story straight in the 20 minutes you interviewed him about it.

Again, not my job. My job was, in my opinion. And, dude, I think you and I are more on the page, but, you know, it's a, I got to, it's an entertainment show. So we've got to have a little back and forth. And you don't have an opportunity to come back at me because it's my show. but I am trying to again my interest in this was not defending him or nor condemning him although I think I was it was pretty obvious I didn't agree with what he did and I didn't recommend anybody else do it either but and I mean I called him a vaccine prevaricator I guess

that just wasn't harsh enough for some people but it's I was trying to shed light on the fact that this is happening. It's really up. And it's really easy to do. And there's no checks and balances for some of this. And there's vaccine card. People have been pulled over and they've got stacks of fake vaccine cards in their car. What do you think they're doing with those?

So I kind of want to say that the vaccine card thing, if we're hinging our hopes on that, that we can go to a concert because everybody shows their vaccine card. No, you got thousands and thousands of Stacey Deloches out there. And in that regard, what he did was provide a very valuable service. Yeah, it's kind of an awakening. By coming clean about it. Yeah, awakening. I got to give him props for not shying away from this.

There's no part of him that multiple times I asked him, do you want me to erase that? He's like, no. No, I want it out there. Yeah, okay? Fair enough. All right. And then he kept saying the Vax card, well, I've got a Vax card. Right.

I just kept saying it. You never once challenged him. Yes, I did. Oh, that's not true. That is not true. That is not true, no. He said, it's a real vaccine card. And I said, but you didn't have a real vaccine.

It's a lie. I know I said that. No, I'm defending Dr. Steve here. A number of times you said, hey, man, that is not a real thing. No, it's a real card. I get it. It's not a real card because you got vaccinated. card. It's not a true card.

I mean, what it says on it is not true. Yeah, he has a fax card. It's a fraud. Yes, I said that. Jolin, fax card. It's not legit. It's a piece of paper that says he got vaccinated, which isn't worth anything. Right, except it's

signed by a real medical professional, so if he wanted to go to a concert, he can get in with that. Right. Kind of reminds me having a fake idea and they'll get good old days. Except this is worse because Because you couldn't really go to the DMV. No.

And go, here's $100. Give me an ID that says I'm 21. Because that's really more like what he did. Oh, I agree. Yeah. Yeah, just being a stupid kid and giving $20 to somebody for a fake idea. So you could buy a liquor. He didn't get vaccinated.

He admits. Right. Yes. Stop telling everyone, as he did throughout the interview. Well, I've got a Vax card. Okay. Well, you're upset with him, not with me. Okay.

It's legit. Yep. You know, Pacey had it right. He is an asshole for what he did for his continued defense of what he's doing. Like you said last week, if his and anyone else's attitude is, I don't want to get vaccinated. Whoops, and then it cuts off. I didn't do that. I wanted to hear that.

He was getting ready to give me props for something I actually said. And then it cuts off. But yeah, just if you don't want to do it, don't do it, but own it. Yeah. Just own it. No. Okay. But I have other people saying, well, I can't own it because of my job.

Well, then now you've got a conundrum, don't you? And I think I told you earlier, I saw the day. I think Delta Airlines did exactly what I suggested last week was if they're allowing people not to get the vaccine, but they're making them do certain things. And one of the things is pay extra $200 a month for their health insurance, which I think is fair. Yeah. You know? So who knows.

Well, I mean, we do that with smoking. Oh, it's exactly right. Yeah, we do it with smoking. We do it with life insurance. If you're a smoker, you're paying a higher rate. Yeah. All right. Anyway.

Thanks, Stacy. You turd. Son of a bitch. God. We'd be talking about dicks and nuts if it wasn't for this. Coupe and stuff. All right. Okay.

But anyway, dude, hey, whoever you are, thank you for calling in. Actually, it was a really good call. And it gave me an opportunity to just kind of reinforce some things that. Maybe I didn't on the fly. I'll give you that. Obviously, I didn't, or he wouldn't have thought that I did. So, all right. Let's do this one.

Hey, Dr. Steve. Hey, man. It's a long time, listening, a really long time. I've been following you for since before. Hey, thanks. Opie and Anthony, like, way back. Yeah. Yeah, well, not N.E.W.

I didn't know that, but, yeah, it's a long time. I don't have social media. I'm kind of an old-school dude. I'm just catching up on shows. I'm getting to the one post. the Stacey Deloche Oh, Jesus. And I just wanted to let you know.

Honestly, I had this one tagged as props play first. I didn't realize this was another one of these. But anyway, we'll play. Kind of contrary to what that woman was saying, the one who left the voicemail is apparently not going to listen to you, even though you've been, you know, the voice of reason and a place for her to get real truth.

That's the point. That's why we listen. Hey, thanks, man. And by the way, we heard from her after, and she appreciated our response, and she's still a listener. She was just mad that day. I don't blame her. It's because we can get the nuance on your show, right? In a world where everything just demands no nuance and sound bites and quick clips and instant opinions without really knowing all the information, that's the disgusting part of, you know,

where we live in right now. Yeah, I told my kid the other day, because we were talking about, you know, right and left wing and all this stuff and some of the trouble that the cancel culture and people getting in trouble. I said, you know, guys, I'm sorry I brought you into clown world, but just be true to yourself, be honest to the people around you, and try to just, you know, actuate. It's the best you can. You have agency to have a good life, and you're just going to have to negotiate this,

but you live in clown world, and I'm so sorry I brought you to this. And they were like, well, we like her. We're okay. But anyway, I just had to say that because I was really sure. You can't trust where you get your information. I'm hopping and puffing because I'm on my bike. Oh, good. I'm riding at lunchtime, trying to ride at lunchtime every day.

Wow. Because to me, that's the most important thing, eat right get off my ass like you tell us every day for every show yeah i need to do it myself i got i've got to get more exercise my back is doing better oh good i'm putting off my surgery i was supposed to go to u penn in october and one of my nurse practitioners has to have some surgery where she's going to be out for eight weeks so i'm going to put it off to after the first of the year anyway and uh and that's probably one of the best things i can do agree from getting sick yes I just keep my immune system healthy.

Yes, sir. Totally agree. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know. Hey, thanks, man. I am a fan of the nuance. I think most of your listeners are. We want the nuance. Please keep the nuance present.

That's why we have so few listeners, but that's cool. I would like to preach to the converted on that one. And so if you're interested in nuance, this is definitely your place. Keep defending it. I mean, I'm hearing you defend it right now, and I just really appreciate that. Hey, thanks, man. I really appreciate you. That's a good way to cap off the Stacey Deloche stuff.

And that shall be the end. All right. Let's see here. Let's do this one. This is Z from North Carolina. I have never heard of anyone having heart cancer. All the other organs clearly can have cancer. So my question is, can you get heart cancer?

Cancers? Yeah. Yeah, that's it. I'll give you one of these. Give yourself a bill. That is a really good question. Most, there are tumors that form in the heart, and most of them are not malignant. But there are some tumors that are going to be cancerous, and I've seen this maybe once.

So the heart's a muscle. So muscles don't get adenocercinoma, which is, you know, you know, cancer that is derived from rapidly dividing gland cells. We don't get squamous cell carcinoma, which is cancer of rapidly dividing flat cells, like of the skin or inside the lung. Because it's a muscle, it can't get those things because it doesn't have squamous cells

to any appreciable amount, and it doesn't have any glands to any appreciable amount. But what it does have is muscle tissue, and so you can get sarcomas of the heart. They're so rare, I've only seen one in my career, and I've been doing this 35 years. You know, the primary malignant cardiac tumors are pretty rare. They looked at 12,000 autopsies recently,

found seven people with a primary cardiac tumor, although that's higher than I would have thought. And even at Mayo Clinic, they'll see one person with a cardiac, primary cardiac malignancy, you know, one that arose from the heart. Now, most cancers that are found in the heart come from other places in the body,

cancers that begin near the heart, like lung cancer and breast cancer can grow to involve the lining of the heart. That's a paracardial sac. And when they do that, sometimes those cancer cells will secrete fluid into the paracardial sac. And when that happens, you'll get a paracardial effusion.

So it's like a bag around the heart. And if you put enough fluid in there, now the heart can't expand. If it can't expand, it can't pump. And they get a thing called paracardial tampanod. And that can be a medical emergency. So we'll go in and stick a needle in there to draw the fluid off, but it'll come back. So a lot of times with those folks, if they've got an otherwise decent lifespan ahead of them,

they'll go in and crack their chest open and take a window out of that paracardium, and then the fluid can just flow out to the rest of the body, and it'll just absorb it. So anyway, yeah, great question. You can get cancer of the heart. But you know, though, Dr. Scott, but there's only love in the dark.

Nothing I can say. Yes. Total eclipse of the heart. The total eclipse of the heart. Every now and then I thought, now, I'm not going to do that. So, yeah, the best version of that's in old school. No, you remember that? And the guy gets dropping F-bombs.

Oh, yeah. Was it old school or was it? It was old school, right? I think it was old school. All right. I would play it right now, but somebody called in, and I can't say no to this after this show the way it was. Oh, hang on.

Well, hello, the CB aliens. This is Boogie. I've been trying to contact you in Kingsport a couple times while it's chasing those white line fevers. Where? And hey, Dr. Scott, how you doing? What's up? Hey, this is Boogie.

I said that. I just had a question. With my feet, I've been, I'm a truck driver, obviously. If you can tell, I've got a lot of references with. Oh, boy. I can only tell because Opie and it used to say that the truck drivers have a lot of time on their hands, and they take a long time to get to the point. But other than that, we don't profile, sir, so we would not have any reason to know that you were a truck driver.

Your truck driving stuff, also, yeah. Shit. Wow. Wow. Yeah, I was waiting for I'm going to punch out. All right. So I don't know what his question was, but I'm assuming he wanted to hear C.B. Alien. Well, I'm pretty sure that's not what it was.

You don't think that's what it was? I think that's what we're going to close with C.B. Alien. Um, don't forget to check out Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. Thanks to everyone at SiriusXM, who's steadfast support of this show, uh, has never gone unappreciated. And, uh, we'll miss Fez Watley from now until the end of our days. And, uh, to my niece, Holly, sorry you don't get the shoutouts this time, but tell Steve Tucci to give you a good rogering as a consolation prize. All right, until next time, check your stupid nuts for lumps.

Quit smoking, get off your asses, get some exercise. We'll see you in one week for the next edition of Weird Medicine. Well, I was hauling my load, and my route was tied. by Friday night All my life spent Holland Freight Next week Tucson's on the slate

Well I was thinking of my home Back there in Caroline When Tiny little voice came over Channel 1-9 saying Hey there all you truckers High balling and high tailing Won't one of you come on back

To this one CB Alien? Well, my daddy was a trucker just like y'all He lost his life doing the big highball Somewhere out there, Twix Tau Citi and Alpha Centauri But I don't want to burden you with my lonesome story I want to hear about you, 18-wheeler Where are you going? Where are you being? Tell me about all the faraway places you see

I want to hear about the trucker's life, its hopes and its failings. Won't one of y'all come on back to this one, CB Alien? Well, I talked to him for a while about hauling a load. About smoky and truck stop coffee and why Chevy's better than phone. He talked to me about how he and his daddy used to get in that rig of theirs and fly across the width of the galaxy and a tear came to my eye. I said ten-fur, little buddy, I done told you plenty. What I'd like to know now is, what's your 20?

Because you sound kind of sad and all alone. I'd like to have an eyeball with you if you'll have me in your modest home. Well, he gave me directions they weren't too hard to follow. Just take a ride off I-85 at Eflin exit. Go straight through Shady Haller. Go through two-stop signs and look to your right, and I'll be waving at you from the split-level ranch with the yellow bug light. Well, a house needed painting that was plain,

and my eye fell across a broken window pane, but there he was, all six arms of waving and two leaning on the railing and a smile splitting his green-scaly face, my buddy, C.B. Alien. Well, we shook hands, least half of us did, and he brought out beer and snacks. I ate peanuts, he chewed on the lid. And he showed me some machinery, so monstrous and big, emitting an eerie blue light, his daddy's CB rig. Well, he flipped on the power, and the rig it began to glistening. He called CQ Andromeda, C.B. Alien listening.

And we talked to his buddies out there amongst the stars, Sirius, Antares, and a local Cuso with Mars. Well, when we were through Ratchet John with the Martians and others, I began to realize all beings his brothers. I looked at my little buddy so alone and so sad, and I said, why don't you come with me, C.B. Alien, there's plenty of good times to be had. Well, he's made a great little partner, good driver, don't need much to eat, just some worms or bugs or maybe a hitchhiker for a treat. You might hear us sometime when we're hauling our freight. Give us a call because me and CB ALE, we're flying 10-8. Thank you.