Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 478 - King's Evil and Other Maladies

Episode Date: November 4, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I love math, but you know what's a bit odd? Numbers that aren't divisible by two. If you just read the bio for Dr. Steve, host of weird medicine on Sirius XM103, and made popular by two really comedy shows, Opie and Anthony and Ron and Fez, you would have thought that this guy was a bit of, know, a clown.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Why can't you give me the respect that I'm entitled to? I've got diphtheria crushing my esophagus. I've got to bolivide from my nose. I've got the leprosy of the heartbell, exacerbating my imbettable woes. I want to take my brain out and blast with the wave, an ultrasonic, agographic, and a pulsating shave. I want a magic pill.
Starting point is 00:00:56 All my ailments, the health equivalent of citizen care. And if I don't get it now in the tablet I think I'm doomed Then I'll have to go insane I want to requiem for my disease So I'm paging Dr. Steve It's weird medicine From the world famous Cardiff Electric Network Studios
Starting point is 00:01:18 The first and still only uncensored Medical Show in the history of broadcast radio Now a podcast I'm Dr. Steve With my little pal, Dr. Scott The traditional Chinese medical practitioner gives me street care asses, street cred with the wackle alternative medicine assholes. Hello, Dr. Scott. Hey, Dr. Steve.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And my wife, Tacey. Hello. This is a show for people who would never listen to a medical show on the radio or the Internet. If you have a question, you're embarrassed to take to your regular medical provider. If you can't find an answer anywhere else, give us a call at 347766-4-3-23. That's 347. Poo-Head. Follow us on Twitter at Weird Medicine or at D.R. Scott W.M.
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Starting point is 00:02:22 I was just kidding, Tacey. I'm just very delightful. Wasn't paying attention to what you said anyway. Okay, good. Nothing changed there. Don't forget to check out stuff. Dot, Dr. Steve.com. Stuff.
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Starting point is 00:02:47 It's our, it's Tacey and me doing Patreon together. And it's on patreon.com slash weird medicine. There's a bunch of different tiers, things that we'll send. you stuff like that we're going to do some Q&As maybe live streams we don't know what we're going to do so we're open to ideas but we do have our first Patreon show out there plus we have a big Joe's big show which was the request of one of our patrons named Claire have you scheduled that what's that big Joe's show well no it's our it's one we did a million years ago so intern Jesse you remember intern Jesse his brother was a baseball player wasn't that what it was yeah brother
Starting point is 00:03:27 His brother. I think so, yeah. It was in the big leagues. Yeah, it was in the big leagues. Yeah. And he had to do a final exam, and so I gave him the distasteful assignment of cobbling together a 50-minute and 10-second show that's all your mother. Oh, no. For air on serious exams.
Starting point is 00:03:47 So, yeah, it's pretty funny. So that's up there. Our first, I think, first riot cast show is up there and some other stuff like that. So check that out at patreon.com slash weird medicine. And don't forget Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. That's simply herbals. And if you go to tweakeda audio.com and use offer code F-LUID, you can still get 33% off the best earbuds for the price
Starting point is 00:04:17 and the best customer service anywhere. I don't know if we're getting anything from that anymore, but still I support them because they're a Tennessee business. They're in Franklin, Tennessee. and they really, 33% off, and nobody's giving discount codes like that anymore. So it's pretty awesome. Well, thank you for being here, Dr. Scott and Tacey. Don't forget to check out Dr. Scott's website at simplyherbils.net.
Starting point is 00:04:43 That's simplyherbales.net. And do you have anything on there of note? Nope. I'm getting email. Nothing good. Way to sell it. I know I'm getting a lot of people still. asking if you have any of your snot spray.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah, we do. And thank you when you forward those to me, and we take care of them pretty quickly. Okay. So I really do appreciate it. You can just, if you ever want to get in touch with us, just go to Dr.steve.com and click contact and ignore the warnings. That's for the riffraff. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:05:14 That's right. So I have, we've got a bunch of calls that we've got to do today. I have one thing that, Sean Pedrick is one of our longtime. listeners and Twitter followers and he's on our Patreon as well and he always has some pretty cool ideas and he sent me this thing it's causes of death in London in 1632 so they had their version of the CDC that kept track of where what people died from and they get you know the Londoners kept pretty good records back then this is what you know England is where epidemiology was created with the cholera epidemic that was coming from a single well.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And that guy, John Snow, found the well where the thing, where the cholera was coming from. Just by surveying people and mapping out where the cases were and figuring out, you know, getting closer and closer to the epicenter. So he laid waste to the hypothesis, you know nothing. I think John Snow. Oh, Lord. Sorry, sorry. It's really bad. Nerd alert.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It was terrible. Nerd alert. Oh, wait. Oh, I don't have the nerd one. Okay, well, I do have this one. Don't worry. Because you're an idiot. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:46 There you go. We do have a nerd. All right. So causes of death in London, 1632. Now, Dr. Scott and Tacey. both start um you're going to have to look some of these things up because what they surely to god they didn't have different diseases they just called them different things or they didn't know what they were for example uh that year in london um a certain number of
Starting point is 00:07:12 people 267 people died of dropsy does anybody know what that is this is one i know what this is heart failure oh give yourself a beast you Exactly right, Dr. Scott. One for one. I'm off to a hell of a start taking. No, hell, no, you'll beat me. No, I hate losing. No, not at all, but that's very good.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yes, heart failure was dropsy, and what did they give people for dropsy back then? My guess would be some sort of alcohol. Well, yeah, probably. Probably some whiskey or some scots. They were in England. They gave them Foxglove. Oh, they did. So Digitalis.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yes. Yes, there you go. Give yourself a bill. Okay, cool. So Foxglove had, we found out much, much later, actually may have had some benefit for some people because it had digitalis in it, which we don't write as much as we used to, but we used to write it for heart failure and for people with weird heart rhythms and stuff. So back then it was sort of a symptom management model where the symptom was dropsy and the management was Foxglove. And they just found that out empirically. You just try a bunch of stuff and you get a couple of people start feeling better.
Starting point is 00:08:36 You use it. And then you sort of modify your population that you're giving it to until you end up with a kind of pharmacopoeia that actually has some. efficacy to it so and that usually starts out as alternative medicine and becomes that's right just like it that's right yeah no totally totally right and back then all they had there was no alternative right there was just herbalism basically and but that's how these things happen you know you you try a million things and maybe something will work on somebody and it's just you know it's not that dissimilar from the way comedians work they'll develop some jokes, and some of them will work, and some of them won't.
Starting point is 00:09:22 The ones that never work, they get rid of. The ones that kind of work a little bit, they'll tweak them and get until they get the wording exactly right, get their word economy right, get the punchline to make sense, the whole thing to make sense, and then they'll use it in their act. And it's not that dissimilar from an herbalist trying to figure out what things work. Oh, yeah, totally. You know? So, that's dropsy.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Okay, so 621, just aged, so they were just old, which meant they probably were, you know, 40. Okay, here's one, Agu, A-G-U-E. Can we look that one up? And Tacey, you look that one up, and Scott, you look this one up. Meagrum, M-E-A-G-R-O-M, 17 people dialed of Miagrum. I'm wondering if that's epilepsy of some sort, because the other thing. Yeah, so Tacey, what's ague? Malaria or some other illness involving fever and shivering.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Okay, there you go. So they had fever and shivering, and they called it ague. Does it say why it was, what's the derivation of that word? It's okay if you don't have that. No. Okay, that's okay. Scott, do you have meagrum? It looks like a severe headache, often limited to one side of the head.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's interesting. Interesting, so maybe they had a brink. So maybe they had a brain tumor or a brain bleed. I was thinking of a stroke. Epidural. Strokes usually don't hurt, but those epidural bleeds absolutely hurt. Like an aneurysm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Yep, go ahead, buddy. That's it. Yeah, that's all they've got is the, it's defined as a headache usually to one side. I think we should still call it that. Yeah, meagrum. You know, it kind of makes you wonder if it was one of the beginnings of migraines. Of course.
Starting point is 00:11:12 One would gas. Oh, Dr. Scott. See, now this is where your, quote, unquote, alternative medicine thinking is coming into play. There you go. Now, apoplexy is rupture of an internal organ and the accompanying symptoms. So if they died of apoplexy and miagram, maybe what that, we were right in the first place, that that was a ruptured blood vessel in the brain. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Now, Tacey, you had something. No. Oh, you were raising, you just raised your hand. I changed my mind. Okay. Jesus. Okay, bit with a mad dog is one person. So even back then, they only had, they didn't have that much rabies.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Bloody flux or scouring. Scouring. S-C-O-W-R-I-N-G. Let's look that one up. Scouring. Bloody flux. Yeah, I want to know what that is. inflammation of the intestine accompanied by bloody diarrhea oh there you go okay so they had some sort of
Starting point is 00:12:15 actually dysentery comes up when you disintery yeah that's what i was going to guess yeah so dysentery basically uh can be described as diarrhea with blood blood and mucus so all right um okay burnt and scalded i guess that's probably an industrial accident burst and rupture who the hell knows. Now, check this one out. King's evil. What in the hell was the King's evil? Now, probably an STD that King passed on to one of his friends. I got King's evil or struma is tuberculous swelling of the lymph glands. Once popularly supposed to be curable by the touch of royalty, I see. The custom of touching was first adopted in England by Edward the confessor.
Starting point is 00:13:10 We saw, did we see Edward the confessor's sarcophagus when we were in England? I don't remember. I think we did. Right next to Henry the 5th, which was crazy because it was gem-crusted, but it didn't anymore. After year, you know, 500, 600 years, people just pick the
Starting point is 00:13:28 gems off of the poor bastard sarcophagus. But, yeah, Struma, the king's evil, tuberculosis swelling of the lymph glands. Isn't that something? The King's evil. King's evil.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I like that one. We should still call it that. Okay, here's a weird one. Eight people died of jaw fallen. Jaw fallen. Hang on. J-A-W-F-A-L-N. Okay, and I got another one.
Starting point is 00:14:01 We're going to have to do a bunch of these because they're all crazy. Now there's like lethargy. It just means fallen jaw Really? Today we know this as lockjaw Oh, I was going to say Tetis That's exactly what I was going to say with Tennis Damn it!
Starting point is 00:14:16 I wish you had, that would have been awesome as he had I was going to be Tettinus or Yeah, yeah, yeah, tetanus, of course Palsy of some sort Of course They had eight people in that one year I've seen one in my whole career And that's because of, you know, why
Starting point is 00:14:32 Oh, you're pro Vax. Yeah, I am. Oh, shit. Shitty, here we go. Impostum. The fuck is. Imposting. I am, P-O-S-T-U-M-E.
Starting point is 00:14:46 People died of some crazy stuff. Now, here's one on here. I know what it is without looking it up. Hey, let's hear it. What's the thing? Let's hear it. Quincy. Quincy.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Quincy. Yeah. Quincy. Oh, Sam. Oh, yeah, go ahead. That was my English Quincy. Impost. is an archaic word for abscess.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Oh, okay. Yeah, so someone just had a big-ass abscess and they did not deal with it in 1632 and it freaking killed them. That's a terrible thing. I bet fistula sucked back then. Okay, look at this. 80 people died of measles.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Hmm. So anyone who says, oh, you know, measles is a benign disease. Of course, back then, we didn't have some of the technology that we have now, of a thousand people that gets it in 2021. That's why we don't
Starting point is 00:15:41 want anybody to get it. Piles, one person died of piles. Now that's hemorrhoids. Ugh. So how bad does your hemorrhoids have to be that the coroner decided you died from them? Pretty bad. I wonder if that's
Starting point is 00:15:57 the same sort of thing. Did they die from piles or did they die with piles? Because all the COVID negators will resonate with that. that question. Could they have just bled out? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:16:10 They could have, yeah, they could have colon cancer or something like that. That's true. And they wouldn't have a terrible. Terrible. Okay, here's a, 98 people died of rising of the lights. Okay, hang on now. You got any guess what that might be? Scott was doing the best on this because he's sort of in tune with this alternative thinking.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yes, rising of the lights. Okay, Tacey's got it. Is this a guess or did you Google it? An illness or obstructive? condition of the larynx, trachea or lungs. Rising of the lights. That's not where I was going. No.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I was thinking somebody had. But why is that rising of the lights? Does it say why they called it that? No. Then it says possibly croup, too. Oh, croup. Okay. Hmm, interesting.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I wonder if rising meant something different. Lots in this case referred to as the lungs. I bet you're right. Oh, okay. Oh, rising of the lungs. Okay, it kind of makes sense. Oh, okay. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Thank you, Tacey. Cool, Tase. Okay, so Quincy, I brought that one up. Anybody know what that is? Never a case. That's a peri-tonsal or abscess. So that's when you have someone that has an infected tonsil and the bacteria just go ape shit and they form an abscess in there,
Starting point is 00:17:33 they will force the tonsil passing. the midline. So when you open up and look in someone's mouth, instead of seeing a nice oral cavity in there, you'll see a tonsil that's going past the midline of the tongue. And that's a medical emergency. Those have to be incised and drained emergently by an ear-nose-and-throat person. And if you don't do it, those people can die. It can include their airway or they can die of sepsis. Now, you have to know what you're doing, though. You can't just go in there with a knife and start poking around because I heard of a case where
Starting point is 00:18:11 someone thought they had Quincy and they didn't palpate it first. They, you know, feel it. They just stuck a knife in it, a scalpel. And it turns out it was a carotid aneurysm. So it was a carotid artery aneurysm and they just opened it up.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah. That person expired. So you have to palpate it first to make sure it's not pulsatile that it's not moving. And for the one in a million chance that that's what is. You don't want to miss that. Because then you look stupid. Oh, goodness. Six. And then the patient dies, too.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Okay, swine pox. I'm assuming that's going to be smallpox or a cowpox sort of thing. Think of the virus. Here's one. 34 people died of Tissick, T-I-S-S-I-C. And then
Starting point is 00:18:57 27 of worms. Oh, no. It sucked to live in England in 1632. Yeah, go ahead. Tissick is pulmonary. pulmonary tuberculosis. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Asthma, a dry cough. They had a lot of different words for tuberculosis, didn't they? Because tuberculosis sucked. If you got that, there wasn't any treatment for it back then. Okay, let's see if we can find anything else on here. That's consumption. That's tuberculosis. Cancer and wolf.
Starting point is 00:19:30 What the hell is cancer and wolf? Hmm. Hmm. and then I've got one more and then we'll move on. Cancer and Wolf. Yeah. There's jaundice on here.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Grief. 11 people died of grief. Lethargy, liver grown. Oh, and then lunatic. Wait a minute. So, you know, you go back to the to people dying of of, what'd you say,
Starting point is 00:19:58 of sadness or despair, what'd you say? Yeah. Malays or, no, grief. Grief. Yeah, broken heart syndrome, which, of course, is the only reversible form of heart disease that I've ever heard of. Yeah, well, it's treatable. Well, the, the, you're talking about Takasubo?
Starting point is 00:20:20 Yeah, it's Takasub. It's, I guess it's the only form of heart disease I've ever seen that can be completely revered. It's caused by stress. Yeah, street by stress. Yeah, it's broken heart syndrome, something that needs to be. be not ever forgotten. People get sad and they get sick. Yeah, Takasubo cardiomyopathy is also known as stress cardiomyopathy.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And cardio, meaning heart myopathy, just meaning disease of the muscle, is a type of what they call non-aschemic cardiomyopathy, which means not caused by decreased blood flow to the heart. And it usually appears after a significant stress, either physical or emotional, as Dr. Scott alluded to. And when caused by the latter, it's sometimes called broken hearts. Give yourself a bill. And it's not well understood what causes it, but it's probably a sudden massive surge of adrenaline.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And there's the other one, noradrenaline or norephenephrine from extreme stress. And then it causes the heart muscle to stun. And this triggers the arteries to tighten and raises the blood. pressure and it just is a catastrophic failure and it occurs more commonly in post-menopausal women but they're the ones often that are burying their husbands too and or burying children God forbid yeah so anyway all right yeah usually husbands yeah hopefully or they wish that they were I was going to say some of it right taste that's right Steve some of them wish now was there another one we were going to look up liver grown I looked up oh sorry no that's okay I
Starting point is 00:22:07 looked that one up enlarged or failing liver okay sure okay so it's cirrhosis and it was their livers were increased in size so they said their liver grown and they called it liver ground usually a result of alcoholism but could be caused by a lot of stuff they had hepatitis back then too so that's pretty interesting yeah living in the 1600s kind of fucking It kind of sucked. It was tough. And then lunatic. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I like that. Instead of calling someone a lunatic, they were lunatic as a French word. Is it what, Tacey has? Lunitica. The female version. I like the way it sounds. Well, this one, seven people died of overlaid. That sounds like a pretty good way to go.
Starting point is 00:22:52 You'd like that one. You're never, ever going to die of that. That's true. That's true. I love it. All right. No more need be said about that. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:08 What else? What you got there, Dr. Scott? I know you had a story. I had one good one, which doesn't apply to neither you or I. Let me find a thing. The, okay, here we go. Oh, boy. Well, this is going to be a good.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Men with Golden Penis Syndrome. Nice. They're ruining sex. and dating for women. Okay. For all women or just some women? Oh, for all women. Get out of you.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Just for some women. Now, this is according to a news report out of New York, but I guess after the COVID thing, and there's been some changes in the dating habits of folks. I would assume this would be in a place where you're the lone 10 guys at a mostly women's boarding school or something. exactly or you know women's college and i think that's where they got to most of us but so here's here's the here's the the nuts and a bolt of it men with college degrees have become so cocky that they're ruining romance for female counterparts cocky cocky nice nice pun exactly we get it so so 40 only 40 percent of college students are male according to this national student
Starting point is 00:24:29 student clearinghouse now this is this is what i'm reading which means for every three women there's two men so that makes all of us with this is across the country it's 6040 that's what it's saying yeah that's what it's saying so you're your oldest son has a we're taking over he's looking he's looking good he's got it's about time but my son has got a girlfriend and he's never going to look and he'll never look at anybody else no i'm just telling you that's we've all said that once or twice. I've never said that. Or three times. I don't say it now. And how many times have we all been married in here?
Starting point is 00:25:05 I think we're getting close to double digits. Hey, I'm just one. You're smart in the rest of us. If it weren't for those things, we might both be retired at this point. There's some truth in what you said. Yeah, the Golden P penis syndrome. So I guess these college grads with all of their college, degrees, they feel like they are superior and that no matter what they do, their smugness in
Starting point is 00:25:35 their superiority, no matter what they do to the females, they don't care because they think there will be more women out there waiting for them. Man, you are one pathetic loser. There you go. So golden penis syndrome. That's it? That's it. So how are they ruining it for anybody?
Starting point is 00:25:56 Well, because I think they're making the, I'm looking to the bottom of the story for how they're rearing it, but they're, they treat their dates badly. Yeah, they ghost them. I read the article. Yeah, I was trying to be inclined to. I don't need any fucking help with this. Okay. Do you not? Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I don't need help with this. This is a golden penis syndrome. This is yours. Oh, you're well aware of it. I'm more of a platinum penis, not a golden. Shit. Yeah, they're ghosting people. They're moving on.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And let me tell you guys, those of you who have this, it doesn't last forever. No. When I got the MD after my name, it helped out because I had no game. I had no game. I wasn't horrendous looking, but I literally had no game, and I was a serial monogamist. And I had a bit of like a genius as far as when it comes to game. The kind of genius that I am, no women, that doesn't attract them. They're attracted to smart men, but not the kind of smart I am.
Starting point is 00:26:56 If we got divorced, he'd be married within a year. Guarantee. I don't think that's true. Six months? No, I don't think that's true. Six months? No, I'd spend the rest of my life just boning anybody that would let me bone him. He'd be out doing magic tricks on the corner.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Oh, yeah, you know he would. He'd be slaying with his golden penis. I did do magic. Well, that's why I did magic because I didn't have any game. And that was something I could just, I had the nerve. I had some really, really good. you know, close-up effects. And I had the nerve to walk up to a table and say,
Starting point is 00:27:32 can I amaze you guys for a minute? And then they go, oh, yeah, sure, I'm sure you can. And then I would. I would blow them away. And then that would give me enough of an opening where I could talk to somebody. But otherwise, yeah, I had no game whatsoever. But you put that MD after your name, you get a little bit of free game. but the guys with golden
Starting point is 00:27:55 fallaces, this does not last forever and you're always thinking, oh, if I dump this one, there's another one coming and you're going to get to a point where there isn't another one coming. Because I know some women with golden vajajas that have run into that situation where all of a sudden, whoops, where did all the guys go? So it can happen and don't be cocky
Starting point is 00:28:19 and don't be a fucking asshole. How about that? Yeah, exactly. It'll be nice. Yeah, just be nice. Yeah, because women really like nice guys, right, Tase? Yeah. Okay, there you go. So some do.
Starting point is 00:28:33 You know, after a while and you put up with so much, yeah, it is nice to be treated nice. Yeah, once you've run through the shitheads. Everybody goes through that bad guy thing, but, I mean, there's only so much you can take. I just, I have, I know these women that say, I just want a nice guy, I just want a nice guy. And then they still pick the turds every time. So they're still attracted to that. I don't know. They haven't had enough yet.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah, maybe so. All right, what else you got? Scott, that was a good one. Golden penis syndrome. Gold penis, yeah. Put that in the old armamentarium. No, that's about all I've got. What?
Starting point is 00:29:14 You're kidding. No, I've got another one. I sent you for like four articles. No, I've got another good one. This is actually from Dr. Steve. a teen unknowingly swallowed a sewing pin that pierced his heart. Oh, that's terrible. Yeah, so a 17-year-old kid was actually doing some tailoring of his clothes
Starting point is 00:29:33 and does like the rest of us. And I'm guilty of it too. If I'm, like, doing woodworking, I'll put screws and nails and stuff in my stupid mouth. Well, it's because we only have two hands. We need a third or fourth hand. The old things, that's right. Did he live? Yes, so the young man, so he said he wasn't even aware of it while he was sewing.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Oh, God. He had some needles in his mouth. He just was sewing away, never even knew that he swallowed it. Three days later, he'd been having chest pain for three days. And they went in, and he was having an abnormal EKG, and they were like, this is crazy for a 17-year-old. So they figured some kind of viral, you know, myocarditis or something. And CT'd his heart, and they saw him. on his heart, and you can see on the image here, a shiny metal object.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Wow. What the heck is that? What can people Google to see that? I would say probably just this article, Teen, who swallowed a sewing pen. Yeah. And you can actually see. It's a pretty nice CT image of the heart. But it was in the, I think this is in his right ventricle.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Wow. And they actually had to go in and surgically remove it. But he's done well. They were just trying to figure out how it got into his heart. heart so right ventricle lower right so either it moved through his esophagus as he was swalling it or maybe it came out of his upper part of his stomach but then it'd have to go through the was it actually inside the cavity of the heart literally yeah literally inside the cavity of the heart well they're sharp i mean oh heck yeah well they're super thin but you know for that for that needle
Starting point is 00:31:15 to have worked through the stomach up through the ground there's there's almost no way had to go through colon? There's almost no way. They were just, they're hypothesizing, but it almost how would it go from the colon to the heart? Well, that's just what they're sounding here. There were just some, there were just some, there's no way it got into the bloodstream and did it that way. It had to be physically through the tissues. It had to be, yeah. Because if, I mean, if it had gone through his colon, he would have probably been septic anyway, he'd have gotten, yeah, one would think he would have gotten sick. Wow. Yeah, but the good news is the kids doing great, no complications. They removed it? Yeah, yeah, surgery had to surgically remove it.
Starting point is 00:31:49 and um holy shit yeah that's crazy oh that's a that's great that is crazy he's lucky yeah thank goodness he's doing well i got a good one for you and when a woman in pennsylvania needed a life-saving liver transplant she repeatedly ran up against one vexing problem she kept testing positive for alcohol which disqualified her from a transplant so that's true if you're going to get a liver transplant because you have cirrhosis of the liver they will drug test you and test you for alcohol, and if you're, they don't want to replace a liver on someone who's just going to ruin the next one. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:27 So they'll test you. Well, she's like swearing that she wasn't drinking, and they're saying, well, yeah, but your urine drug test is constantly showing up positive. Anybody got any ideas on this one? I do. Yeah, go ahead. But I think, I may have read this one before. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Well, yes, that's how you would know about it. I wouldn't assume that you would just make it. make it up and be correct no i the um diabetes okay yeah and how does that give that make gives you sugar in your sugar and yeast ah very good give yourself a yeast yeast infection she had uh auto brewery syndrome when and uh what it is is microbes in the gastrointestinal tract oh this lady had something different okay it was similar convert carbon into alcohol, and these people can get drunk from eating carbs, but this was, most of the time I've seen it, it's in the bladder, or they've got a yeast infection or a bladder infection
Starting point is 00:33:29 and the bacteria in the bladder will ferment alcohol. Go ahead and taste. So when my liver enzymes are out of whack, I can say it must be auto brewery syndrome? Yes, it has to be ABS. Yes, it can't be from the consumption. Excuse noted. Excuse me, doctor. You just, yes, I like that.
Starting point is 00:33:54 So you can continue to drink at your normal level, and when your liver goes bad, that's your excuse. ABS. We'll vouch for you. Yeah, I'll say. We can say you always smelled kind of sweetie. So there is a thing called black. Yeah, see, this is bad medical journalism. I knew this wasn't right.
Starting point is 00:34:14 It's not in the GI tract. It's in the GU tract. and the genitone urinary tract and they said it was so rare it didn't even have a name yet. Yes, it does. It's, you know, bladder fermentation syndrome or auto brewery syndrome.
Starting point is 00:34:31 But anyway, yeah, so there you go. And that's crazy, and I have seen this. Because in our business, we do a lot of drug tests and it's like, honey, you can't be drinking and taking these medications at the, the same time. It's like, well, honey, I don't, I never touched a trap in my life. And it's, you do, you delve into it further, and they've got sugar in their urine, and they've got some, some bacteria or whatever. And, yeah, those things are just in there doing what they do,
Starting point is 00:35:02 and they chug away and make alcohol as a product of fermentation. So there you go. All right. You're ready to do some phone calls? Or do you have one? Let's do it. No. You got one? Okay. I got nothing. Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. All right, very good. Oops. Hello.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Hello, Dr. Steve. Hello, man. My name is T.E. Okay. I'm slightly overweight as I have gained weight during the COVID-19 pandemic. I was wondering if you had any advice, if there was any type of program. that I could use to help me shed some pounds. Also, part two to my question, if you do have a program that might help me, is there also a
Starting point is 00:35:58 promo code that I could use to save some money? Okay, thank you. Thank you in advance for your help. Love the show. I wonder if he was reading that. No. That sound like it at all. That's our buddy Cardiffelactic, and he's being a very good friend
Starting point is 00:36:21 and trying to get me to give out the promo code for Noom at Noom. Dottersteve.com. But it is a, there is a serious question here that people, a lot of people have gained a lot of weight. I'm one of them. Me, me, me. I did too. Me, me, me. Yeah, so all of us have gained a significant amount of weight.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I actually hit the highest I've been since I started Noom. And it wasn't a failure of Noom. It was a failure of my part. After I got COVID-19, I think part of my brain was like, well, screw it. Hell, you almost died, although that's probably not true. But I felt like, hell, I wanted to die. At one point, I felt so bad. And when it was over, I just started eating.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And I didn't, without regard. guard to anything and when i hit i never got back to where i was before i started noon but i was way on my way to getting there and i had to put the brakes on so i think part of it is psychological absolutely some of it is just sloth tacy used to work out four uh times a week started traveling and it's all gone the traveling and then the covid too you know they shut your gym down for a while and you start getting out of the habit of it and you start getting out of the habit of it Of course, we have this beautiful Nordic track bike where, you know, they take you on trails and you go up and downhill and stuff. Or classes or basically anything you want.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I love this thing. And I like to do the Tobata runs because they're brief. It's fun to look at. And it's fun to look at. They take you, you're riding trails in Turkey and stuff. No, I mean the bike. Oh, the bike. It's fun to look at.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Right. And I hang my suit. suitcase stuff. Because we're using it for a hanger right now. Which everybody says is a joke, but I guess it's real. So we need to do better on that. But I just kind of quit giving a shit for a while.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And I'm just now starting to care again. Although the training that I did get this isn't a plug at this point from Noom really did help me because it deals with psychological issues that have to do with eating. And I think that helped me a lot.
Starting point is 00:38:41 But I'm still, I want to get back to my ideal body weight because I was there. And just, anyway. So what do you guys have for ideas that people can do other than me plugging Noom, thanks to Cardiff Electric? Check out his podcast. It's so inside the room that most people won't get it. But my friend Murray Reims, who was a scholar, said, and I don't know if he was quoting somebody. But he said, the more biting the satire, the narrower the audience. And his satire is very biting indeed because the audience is very, very narrow for what he does.
Starting point is 00:39:22 But I think he's a genius. But anyway, what have you got? I mean, I've got nothing. I'm in a bad spot right now with all the travel. And the hotel gyms are disgusting. Yeah. We're in a pandemic. And I do feel better when I work out.
Starting point is 00:39:39 There's no excuse. I can do it in the wrong. room. Yeah. I just don't. Should we do something like P90? I've always recommended to the truckers. You know, they say, well, I can't carry weights and I can't work out.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And it's like, no, you can. You can do P90. You've got a DVD. Used to do P90. And the P90, you use the resistance bands. And it's 20 minutes. You do 20 minutes a day. That's at least you're getting some exercise.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yeah. And I say get off your ass and get some exercise. You know, a physician healed, I said. I think at the end of every show I don't I haven't been doing it I think with our bike comes all kinds of things on the internet that we could watch and do
Starting point is 00:40:21 I just don't do it I apologize what I was going to say I think what we've all gotten into is just a different routine and it's much more sedentary shittier yeah because of it and until each individual and I am that individual
Starting point is 00:40:35 I actually started this past Sunday getting off my ass and doing something exercise you know we walk i take my dog we walk up the mountain in my house and and um it's it's a beautiful wall but it's just a getting up and doing it you know i think i'm like you for for over a year was kind of just sitting on my ass and going well and now you're a pescatarian mostly vegetarian yeah why would you be gaining weight uh just i think kind of like a lot of other people um i think i increase my alcohol consumption increased sugars increased sugars and
Starting point is 00:41:10 decreased movement yeah yeah so just kind of i did exactly what i say not to do i know i don't want to give anybody any really specific advice because it's different for everybody if there was one way to lose weight we would have figured it out a long time a hundred 200 years ago and we'd just be doing it we'd all be normal weight um but i think scott nailed it is just being cognizant of what you're eating eat better things and be more active and at least start to there and then if you want to if you want to jolt your system using low carb i'm cool with that as long as you do it right low carb is not the bacon mayonnaise and steak diet it does sound pretty good though but that's sort of the my uncle told me something that one of his friends told him
Starting point is 00:42:02 something diet a true low carb diet is lots of green leafy vegetables and lean animal protein Optavia is another one that you can just do and get things going. You know, you do it for a month or two or something like, you know, a program like Noom, if you need somebody to sort of tell you what to do. But just getting started by just saying, hey, we're going to change our ways. So I'm going to do that right now. I'm going to make a commitment to get on that stupid bike and I'm going to start eating better. And we'll report back next week and see if I've had any, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:40 That's my accountability as our audience. I'm going to do it. Because obviously, I can't be accountable to myself. And I'm doing the same thing. So you're going to take the clothes off of your exercise machine and clean the dust off. And I'll be out of town. So. You can plug it in.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Yeah. Yeah. Update your subscription. Yeah. All of those. Well, actually, I paid for a subscription almost a year ago. And we haven't used it one time since I paid for that subscription. It's not a, it's not cheap.
Starting point is 00:43:07 So I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to try to get some use. And what were you going to say, Tacey, you're going to be out of town so I can do anything I want? So the clothes on it will be off. Cool. So he can do. No excuses. No excuses. Plug it in, dust it off, let a rip.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, I'm going to do something too. I am, and I'll do better. All right. Well, thank you, Mr. Electric for your call. It stimulated an excellent conversation. Hey, Dr. Steve. I've got two questions. The first one is, I miss Jesus.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Has the medical community figured out how to cure death yet? No. We barely can define death. That's the thing. You know, we used to define death as stopping breathing, then we invented ventilators, then it was heart stopping, then we invented CPR, and advanced cardiac life support, and now we're defining it as cessation of brain activity, but if we can upload our brains into a computer, then is that really death, or is it not?
Starting point is 00:44:10 have to define it a different way so yeah no I mean I know you're asking you know we miss him too and his pictures right here and I was thinking about him the other day if you go to our patreon I posted a video that we did with GVAC where we took a skin tag off of his eye and you know he was just a good sport about stuff like that and he's the one that got Dr. Scott into music yep and for that one thing you know okay so everything else was good about GVAC but you know he ruined secondly I I recently found a bunch of ulcers on my tongue. Okay. I saw a couple of doctors, and they all told me it looked like I was biting my tongue.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I had these, they looked like, oh, Dr. Steve, it looked like at herpes on the side of my tongue. I was so nervous. Yeah. I went and talked to a couple of doctors, and they told me it looked like I was biting my tongue, and it turns out that I'm having seizures. What? Thanks, bye. What?
Starting point is 00:45:10 Wow. We just lost him? No, he just hung up. So, yeah, that's wild. Weird that you'd be biting your tongue. Well, I don't know what to make of that. I mean, people do bite their tongue when they're having seizures. Usually they know they're having seizures.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I was thinking of something like trench mouth. Trench mouth is also called Vincent's Angina. That's where you get ulceration, swelling, and sloughing off of dead tissue from the mouth and throat. but sometimes it can just be on the tongue. And, you know, they'll call that acute necrotizing ulcerative gingivitis. But, wow. And you can get herpes on your tongue, too. By the way, I went to a new dentist today, and they ran me through the mill.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I just had dental implants placed. So I've just got these little places where they're going to eventually put the teeth. and yeah I'm in for about 20 grand on this shit of everything that they want to do they've got to straighten my teeth and then I've got it's your age yeah I know I know well because just pull them because they're that's what I said just pull them and put implants in but that would cost even more that's true and then they got a patch all of my gingerba apparently they've been receding and because I clenched my teeth the
Starting point is 00:46:34 teeth flex and so now the gums have pulled away and So you've got to get graphs? Yeah, I've got to get grafts. And, yeah, it's really something. But one of the things that they did was they had me swish this stuff in my mouth. And then they used what I guess was an ultraviolet light or something. If there's a dentist or an oral surgeon out there that knows. And then they do an oral cancer screening.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I opted for that when I was filling out the paperwork. Yeah. I wonder how much they charged me for that. $67. Oh, that's not so bad. But, yeah, they look around. and, yeah, I really didn't find anything, which is good because, you know, I've been exposed to HPV
Starting point is 00:47:13 and you worry about it. So, yeah, go ahead. I'm just upset about the $20,000. Yeah, I'm not thrilled about it either. It'll be over a year and a half amount of time, but that's about how much it's going to cost to do everything. Because the grafting that they have to do to cover up the roots of my,
Starting point is 00:47:37 because I looked at the picture. It's like, I look at my mouth every day, and I said, you all are putting a filter on this to make my mouth look ten times worse so that I'll agree to this. And they said, oh, no, no, no, that's really what it looks like. But they're all pulled away, and you can see where the enamel stops.
Starting point is 00:47:54 But there weren't any cavities there. You'll get cavities there. And then they have to just yank the tooth because I had so much fluoride when I was a kid. kid but you could see it and so when they patch it they do four quadrants and each quadrant is two grand so we're talking eight grand just for the patching so I'm not I'm not happy about that I just figured ain't I paid two grand to have two implants put in and I figured well that's going to be the biggest part of it but that's no that's that's a tenth of what I'm going to end up paying
Starting point is 00:48:27 for everything yes yuck please send cash yeah uh Patriot John.com slash weird medicine. There you go. I got you. All right. So, yeah, so this guy may be having seizures and just biting his tongue. That was the one thing. She said, oh, you bit the inside of your mouth, right?
Starting point is 00:48:49 And I said, yeah, all the time. She said, and it was like magic. It was like when Dr. Scott felt my pulse and he could tell I was constipated. It was cool that she could look in there and say, oh, you bit your tongue or bit the inside of your mouth like about two weeks ago. It was absolutely true. I guess she could see it. Oh, my God, Steve. What if I go and she says, I need all that, too, because our dentist wasn't paying attention.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah, I don't know. Well, I'm just not going to do it. Okay. You'll just have to wait. I'll be the only one with decent mouth. Good teeth. Yeah. I'll have these beautiful, straight, white purlies.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Choppers. I just use dentures. What's wrong with that? That's what I'm saying, yeah. I don't have a problem with that. It's yank them. I mean, you spend all this money to keep them, and I'm old. Well, it's got to feel better to pull them than do the graphs.
Starting point is 00:49:34 You would think so. And bone graphs and screws and screws and shit. If any dentists want to call in and talk about this, man, that's got a hurt. I'm cool. Gotta hurt. Anyway. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:44 But they take the skin from the roof of your mouth and then. Oh, shut the fuck up. Yeah, it's terrible. They do. And then they, and then they. Well, I guess I'll lose weight then. It's got to adhere to it. And then they put this stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Oh, is she going to do it or is she sending you somewhere? No, she's sending me to a periodontist. Oh, yeah. No, I did that. You did? I've done it twice in two little places. Okay, I remember that. Well, and, you know, a lot of times that can be cured by not people, people brushing their teeth too vigorously.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Yeah, that's what I do. Well, they'll tell me to quit using my quip toothbrush. But she said that really wasn't why. That wasn't that. But, yeah, I'm going to have to start going to a soft toothbrush. It's all at skull. I know. I figure you can't get anything clean with a soft toothbrush, though.
Starting point is 00:50:32 They're always saying that, and it's like, that's not going to work. I got a scrub, floss, baby. Yeah, I do floss. All right, let's do this one. I'm not flossing for nobody. I'm good, thanks. How are you? I'd like you to talk more about the out-of-body experiences that you mentioned having in a previous podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Instead of that something to do with a yoga presentation on the Oprah show. It wasn't on the Oprah show, but I think I did say it was on the Oprah show, but I think I did say it was on the Network. Tacey and I were doing yoga with Steve Ross. Remember last week I couldn't remember his name. It's Steve Ross, and you can go on YouTube and find him. And he played kind of funky music, and he was a young guy, yoga master dude. And he had a class of basically, you know, young folk. And he would teach you how to do yoga. And so we would sit in our living room with the VCR, it was a VHS tape of a bunch of his classes, and we would do yoga. And one, at the end of it, they do this big relax.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So people think yoga, and Scott will attest to this. You should talk about it a little bit. It looks like, oh, they're just stretching and doing all this stuff. Hell no, by the end of it, I was sweating, my heart was pounding. You know, you felt like you'd really had a workout, which is crazy, because you're holding positions sometimes that your body doesn't really want to hold. Right, and stabilizing muscles that are typically not used to stabilize things for so long. The smaller muscles in your shoulders and ribs.
Starting point is 00:52:09 You get a lot of lactic acid burn, and you contract these muscles, then you release them, and a lot of the lactic acid gets into your system, and so you really feel that burn, and you feel pretty tired. Well, at the end of it, they do, the reward is this thing called the Big Relax, and we would lay there. It's called Chivas. which is the pose, that's the pose, yeah. Excellent. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And he would have you do this visual imagery. And the one that we were doing that day was you were supposed to imagine a tower made out of bricks, like a circle of bricks. And it was constantly falling in on itself. So it would, you know, the bricks would start falling into the center, but it was infinite. So it would just constantly be falling in on itself. And I was doing that and I started to float out of my damn body and I flipped over and I looked down and I could see the two of us sitting there doing yoga or in this pose. Now, I know I've seen the studies where they've done this in operating rooms where people have out of body experiences and they put a sign that only someone floating from the ceiling could see and they never can come back and say, hey, I saw a sign. and it said, you know, I had this code word on it.
Starting point is 00:53:30 So I know it's BS, but that's how I felt. And so it was awesome. We've got about 30 seconds. That show was called Inhale, and it was on the Oxygen Channel. Okay, so was oxygen part of Oprah? No. No. That was something different.
Starting point is 00:53:44 It was way before Oprah. I don't even know if it's still around. It's not? I don't think it is. Like you would know, though, really, Scott. Oh, I know. But Steve Ross is still on. He watches the oxygen channel.
Starting point is 00:53:58 He knows about yoga. Steve Ross is still viewable on YouTube. So I highly recommend him. And Rodney Yee is another one. All right. Let's do another phone call before we get out of here. Hello, folks. Got a question that is discussed all the time but it's never been explained.
Starting point is 00:54:21 What is a steroid? And how does a steroid differ from breaking our medicine? for regular fields. Okay? Thank you. Bye. Well, okay, there's no sort of molecule that says this one is medicine and this one is something else. It's just how we use it.
Starting point is 00:54:43 So corticosteroids are anti-inflammatory drugs. You know, you have non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. That would be ibuprofen, nappers, and that stuff. These are steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. They're usually, we use them to treat inflammation, like rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, things like that. But also in COVID-19, dexamethazone is a corticosteroid that was found to be effective in preventing death in people who are, you know, who are critically ill. They resemble cortisol, which is a hormone that your adrenal glands make. and their corticostero-steroids, we usually call them steroids,
Starting point is 00:55:31 but then there are androgenic steroids. Androgenic steroids are things like testosterone, which are also steroids. So people get confused. You say, well, I'm going to give you a steroid dose pack, and they go, oh, well, I'm going to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's like no different kind of steroid. So these steroids can be given intravenously.
Starting point is 00:55:50 They can be given as a shot. Sometimes we'll use them. We will instill them in joints that are. inflamed. I used to do a lot of knee injections and people with knee arthritis that get a big giant effusion where there's fluid on their knee and it's
Starting point is 00:56:04 red and we would rule out that it was infected. You draw the fluid off and then replace it with a solution of corticosteroid, long acting, and short acting and some anesthetic. Yeah, a little numbing. A little numbing medicine. They walk out of their pain
Starting point is 00:56:22 free for a little while thinking you're a genius. and then the steroids helped to calm down all that inflammation that caused it in the first place. So because they are hormones, you could say, well, there's something different than a pill like an ACE inhibitor, which blocks a certain receptor in the body. Right. But really, they're all medicine. We're using them all the same. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:46 All right. Yep. What are you looking at? What are you sharing over this? I was sharing something. The long view, we were picking up Taise on our phone. and somebody said they're reading her Facebook
Starting point is 00:56:58 and I said shit I just figured she was shopping They are 100% correct I figured I figured I figured Oh did Did you take the camera down Is that what you did? Why it where'd the camera go?
Starting point is 00:57:07 Uh oh Hopefully we're not on the long shot No we're not on the long shot So oh so people were able to read your phone No they couldn't read it They could just see what she was doing That she's obviously not paying attention You know I've got a really short attention span
Starting point is 00:57:23 And it's at the end of the day And nobody's paying me to do this And so Paying you to do this Love and affection I paid attention from 8 till 5 I drove four hours today And I am
Starting point is 00:57:43 Yeah you're fine I'm fine I'm fine I was just looking at A couple of things on Facebook Okay Did you find something apropos to the show? No.
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