Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 490 - A Fungus Among Us

Episode Date: February 1, 2022

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What do you call a cat who drives a taxi? A tabby-cabby. A tabby. If you just read the bio for Dr. Steve, host of weird medicine on Sirius XM103, and made popular by two really comedy shows, Opie and Anthony and Ron and Fez, you would have thought that this guy was a bit of,

You know, a clown. Your show was better when you had medical questions. Hey! I've got diphtheria crushing my esophagus. I've got Tobolivir, stripping from my nose. I've got the leprosy of the heartbound, exacerbating my incredible woes. I want to take my brain out

and blasted with the wave, an ultrasonic, agographic, and a pulsating shave. I want a magic pill. All my ailments, the health equivalent is citizen cane. And if I don't get it now in the tablet, I think I'm doomed, then I'll have to go insane. I want a requiem for my disease. So I'm paging Dr. Steve.

It's weird medicine, the first and still only uncensored medical show in the history of broadcast radio. Now a podcast. I'm Dr. Steve. My little pal, Dr. Scott, the traditional Chinese medicine provider, gives me street credit. The wackle alternative medicine assholes. Hello, Dr. Scott. Hey, Dr. Steve. And also in the studio, we have DNP Carissa. Hello, Carissa.

How are you today? Hello, Dr. Stee. I have somebody calling me, and we won't be talking to them right now. That was Dan McCabe, by the way, our buddy Dan McCabe, who's been on the show before. Yeah. All right. Anyway, now he's got me all mess up. Thanks a lot, Dan.

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Patreon.com slash weird medicine. Tacey and I are doing that together. For those who miss Tacey, and we're also going to have some celebrity guests and some live streams and other stuff over there that you will only be able to get. at patreon.com slash weird medicine. So our plan is to have PA Lydia and DJ Mel B and whatever your radio name is. How about Super C. DnP.

Carissa. How about Super C? You know, you're a DNP, right? Anyway, we're going to have you guys rotating his third mic. You are a DNP, right? Yes. So what is that? A doctor of nursing practice.

Ooh. Ooh. So we should be. calling you doctor chrisa then right so why don't you guys okay so you did your nursing thing right and were you a nurse before you went to np school i was for six years all right and then uh you went to nurse practitioner school yes got your np and then at some point you got your doctorate right i mean that's what that is right well actually i went straight through from bsn to dnp oh you did okay so you went straight through i did you okay so you went straight through i did

And so what's the difference between being a nurse practitioner and a, you know, an NP and a DNP? You better have a good answer to that. I mean, right. A lot of research. More years of school. More years of school. Really? So how much, how many more?

So it was three years total for me to do my DMP from BSN. Okay. However, the hours were, I want to say, 100 more hours at least in clinicals. Yeah. So. Okay. did more clinicals and then you said you had to do some research too did you have to did you have to publish a paper or do a dissertation or something yeah they call it a capstone project there um it's not

a dissertation however it is a research paper that goes through all the processes and then a project that goes along with that okay so why do this why would anybody go through all of this torture i mean you don't call yourself doctor so you don't get that out of it Are you getting paid more? No. Okay, so... Some people do. So why?

I wanted to do it personally for the research. I saw a lack of identifying caregivers in the nursing realm. Uh-huh. So I went back to school and developed an entire protocol on how to identify caregivers of elderly people. Oh, yeah. Is anybody using that? No. Well, there you go.

You get nothing. You lose. Good day, sir. Well, but still, I'm sure it was very fulfilling for you. Yes. Okay, well, that's all that matters. My chair is still using my paper for future students. Well, no, that's something.

Okay. I also didn't follow up on it, so. Yeah, okay. Fair enough. I haven't followed up on anything in my life, so Check out Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. Simplyerbils.net. We haven't plugged that in a while.

So anything on there? You've got, wait a minute. Working on a... Chris, I have ADHD, and I just saw a shiny object. Dr. Scott's got something new. So I'm just, you know, bouncing from one topic to the other. Tell us about this thing. This is something exciting.

I'm very interested in. Did you bring me some? I was looking in my bag. You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. You said I have... I literally, I literally, but what I'm going to do... Why can you give me the respect that I'm entitled to?

It will be here this afternoon. I literally ran out of my office. We'll tell everybody what it is. It's our original nasal spray, but now we've put CBDs. oil in there. So how did you do that? Listen, I was going to do something with double vasectomy turd

where I wanted to put Rogaine in a leave-in conditioner and he had a formula for a leave-in conditioner because he's a master barber and he knows how they did some sort of crazy mixology shit in school where he learned how to make

different shampoos and lotions and all this kind of stuff. And I wanted to put monoxidil in it and then sell it, you know, as Dr. Steve's hair restorative or something, you know, call it, you know, under the snake oil label or something.

And I was told I couldn't do that because they had to be separate. They said we could sell the Rogaine separate and have people put it in if they wanted to or just do it. And it's like, well, hell, they can just go buy Rogaine. You know, why would I do that? And by

conditioner. So how were you able to just throw CBD in there. I don't know why he is... Is monoxidil of prescription medicine? No, but it's OTC.

Yeah, what's what I thought, yeah. Who told him he couldn't do that? No, they told me that. They told him that and he told me that I wouldn't necessarily believe it, but I mean, I was the one that was pursuing that. And they said they couldn't do it because of some FDA stuff and that

if you took an OTC medication, you couldn't just arbitrarily mix it with something else. and then sell it as something else. I've never run into that. Never run into that. I can, because, because I can actually make. Because all your stuff is just, you know,

mal-shy. It's a supplement, Dr. Stee. It's a supplement. It's a supplement. But, you know, there was a research a couple weeks ago about CBD oil blocking the receptor sites for COVID-19. In vitro. In vitro, right.

That means in the test tube, everybody. And I have been crystal clear saying, I'm there's not been any scientific proof right but but what we do know is it what's another route for you to get CBD into your body yep so where are you getting the the pharmaceutical grade CBD for it's it's an organic CBD oil company so are they pressing it or are they extracting it what are they doing pressing they're pressing yeah okay so they're pressing it from hemp yep and then somehow they're you know purifying it by some method some method presumably not Sell it to me for a whole bunch of money.

Liquid chromatography. No, no liquor chromatography. And when they sell it to me, of course, it's at a much higher price. Yeah, of course. Now, have you sent the CBD off independently to make sure it doesn't exceed the 0.3% THC in it? No. Okay. I would do that.

Yeah, yeah. Spend the extra money just to make absolutely sure, because the last thing you want is for somebody to say, you know, you son of a bitch, I got fired, because I, you know, there was too much THC in my system. Or to get your shit pulled off the shelves by the FDA because they'll do that too. And we're not there yet. And I'm not saying I don't trust these people, but I don't trust these people. No, no, I'm the same way. I'm the same way.

No, I'm the same way. There are a lot of steps to go through and certainly I've been down this road with my simple herbal stuff too and making sure that we go, you know, it has to be if produced and, you know, FDA-proof facilities. But you can't get fired for peppermint oil, which is what you had in your nasal spray, which made it awesome, by the way. Yeah, it's the peppermint oil. Pepperment oil is a natural anti-inflammatory. CBD oil, fulox, the receptor sites for the COVID.

So one would hypothesize. In vitro. Let's make that clear. Yeah, yeah, and again, I'm not making any savings that we're keeping people from getting COVID. But by spraying it in your nose, because the peppermin oil is an anti-inflammatory. And other research papers, and I've got them all ready for the website when we put it up, nasal steroids, it's shown to help. And they are from, they are from, what you call it, what's the website like? Oh, yeah, that little thing.

Oh, yeah, good. But the nasal sprays have been proven to reduce the transmission of COVID through the nasal passage. What? What nasal spray? What are you saying? What do you say? No, nasal steroid, like a flanase, like a flanase or a... To prevent transmission?

Now, that was a paper. And I've actually got, Dr. Steve. I'll pull it up. Okay, yeah, bring it up. I want to see it. Yeah, let me pull it up here. So you're talking about a steroid nasal spray? Yep, now.

And I do not have steroids in mine. Mine are all supplements. A little bit of honey, a little peppermint oil, a little bit of salt, a little bit of baking sauce. Well, it's a buffered saline. Yep. And so let me look at it. I've got the... Mine, I put in steroid nasal spray transmission COVID.

It said your search received zero results. Oh, hell, that's bullshit. No, I'm not mad. You typed it in the wrong. Tails are all the... Your fingers of... You know what? Carl from WATP is hilarious.

He says, I love it when I get in people's head. Because every time I am doing research live, I'm like, oh, shit, Carl's going to give me hell for Googling stuff. while I'm on my show. Potential role of xylitol plus grapefruit seed extract nasal spray solution in COVID-19, a K-Series. So, K-series is a collection of anecdotal evidence, but it's a start. It's a place where you can say, is this worth doing a double-blind placebo-controlled studies? This is three patients.

You're not going to get much out of that when you've got what, you know, 1%? people getting severely ill from this, you're not going to get a whole lot with three patients. But what they did was they had rapid clinical improvement and shortened time to negativization on the repeat intranasal swab test. There you go. So I would say that, you know, they're just washing stuff out of their nose, but, you know, that's interesting. Yep, and that's what we're doing.

That's what we're trying to do is not only wash out, but block the ability of viruses to, if it does work. And we're way, way from proving any of these things. Oral rinse with antimicrobial agents is efficacious in reducing viral load in oral fluid. Saline nasal irrigation can reduce viral load in the nasal cavities. This is from the International Journal of Immunopathologic Pharmacology. And so, I mean, that makes sense. Yeah. So just getting people to just wash out their stupid head.

Just do it. Yeah, wash out your stupid head. All that crap in there. Next week we're going to have Martin Hoke from Navaj on. How about that? How cool is that? The guy that invented the Navaj, and he's going to be on here. And what I'm hoping is we will have a Navaj all set up for DJ Melby,

and she was going to do it live on the show. But what I'm concerned about is what if she does it live on the show, and then she hates it, and then we've got Martin on there. So I'm thinking maybe we'll do her thing next week. Risk reward. I know. That's true. That's true.

Hey, so I want to know when he's going to come up with an avage for the colon so we can do like our own at-home colon cleanse. Ooh, that would be nice. It's called Miralax. Just take that. Anyway. All right. Yep.

It's kind of cool. Yeah. It's super great. All right, buddy. Well, good luck with that and bring me some. Yeah, I'll have you a sample here soon. A couple of shows back, we had weird codes, ICD-10 codes. Did you bring any, Chris?

I couldn't remember if you were involved in that or not. I wasn't last time, but I do have one. Okay, you got one? Okay, give it to us. What the code actually is. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, do you need to look it up and I'll give you these? Because I'm sort of putting you on the spot on that.

It's fine. I have it. Okay. It's sucked into jet engine subsequent encounter. Subsequent. How do you have a... That is awesome. What's the Cove?

Sucked into jet engine. Oh, my God. Subsequent encounter. That means they got sucked into... You lived through it. Right. Somehow you lived through it. Or you were just visiting the blood spatter on the...

Correct. On the concrete. That's a good one. Yeah. I don't think I can beat that one. I mean, so you were sucked into a jet engine, survived, sucked in again, or... No, well, the subsequent engine. would be the second time you see them.

So there's an initial encounter where you just mop up, you know, liquid. And then the, I don't know why you would ever have a subsequent encounter for somebody that sucked into a genit. How bizarre is that? The patient was obviously Wolverine. God. Tough son of a bitch. Yeah, Wolverine. Tough son of a bitch.

Tougher than I'll ever be. V-9-7. Wolverine, so you're a nerd? I mean, did you not know this? Well, the audience. Oh, no, no. I'm just going to go ahead and intervene. No.

No. We're not going down this road because if you start letting him nerd out, you're going to see people start falling asleep. Everything on me right now is Star Wars. Let me see. My shoes, my pants, my shirt. How was your shirt Star Wars? Oh, it's Light Side.

The light side you are. I am. All right, that's awesome. Okay, cool. Well, we'll have to, when we have, we, we, matter of, we, matter of, we, matter of In fact, okay, so Pete Davidson's a friend of mine, and I have a friend who, two friends, who have a D.C. themed podcast called D.C. on screen. I'm going to give them a plug. Jason and David are two great guys. They've been on this show before. One of the most fun shows we did is, for me, Scott hated it, was when they came on and asked me comic book movie medical questions. Like they said, could, you watch any D.C.? stuff and all? Okay, so in the Dark Night

Rises, would it be possible for a chiropractor to crack Bruce Wayne's back so that, a spoiler alert, so that he could climb out of the pit and come back to Gotham City to defeat Bain? You remember that scene? Yeah. It was a little ridiculous, except

I said, I think that he could have, because I don't think that Bain broke his back. I think that Bruce Wayne had a conversion reaction. So when I've had people with conversion reactions before, shut up, Scott, let me talk for one minute.

I'm sorry. We're going to talk about conversion reaction. Is that okay with you? No, that's really. Yeah, that's real. That's really? Did the Wolverine have a conversion? No, it wasn't Wolverine.

It was fucking Batman. So I've had people with conversion reaction before. I remember a million years ago in medical school having this girl that couldn't walk. And one of the techniques that we used, we said, sometimes people just get better on their own because they were getting, and they were getting ready to threaten with a whole bunch of, like, lumbar punctures and all this stuff. We said, sometimes it just happens. People just get better. And the next day we walked in, she was running around. Yeah, well, I just got better.

So we gave her a reason to get better. And so my theory to them was, although, yeah, a pit-based chiropractor who was just cracking on his back probably wouldn't have. fixed a, you know, a spinal fracture, but he absolutely could have fixed a conversion reaction. So anyway, so Pete's a friend of mine, and he actually sort of kind of went on their show and did an interview with them. And why am I telling this? Oh, because I'm a nerd. Yeah.

So anyway, so we're actually hoping, and I haven't asked him yet, but hoping to have him on the Patreon show. Check out our Patreon show, patreon. com slash weird medicine. And we do sort of some stuff that we can't really do over here, mainly drop lots more F-bombs and stuff because it's behind a paywall. But all right, anyway, so good to know you're a nerd. Excellent.

Yes. So Star Wars, Disney, D.C., obviously. What else? Video games. Oh, really? Yeah. Such as. Zelda's my number one.

Okay. I defeated the first one. I haven't. I've defeated all of them. The ocarina of time or whatever, you defeated that? Yes. You went through all those friggin dungeons and stuff? All of it.

Oh, my God. Did you map them out as you went? Yes. You have to, right? I've beat every one of them on regular and hard mode. Oh, okay. I'm going to have to. Well, no, no, no, wrong one.

Wrong one, so. I'll have to give you that. Give you some props on that. Good job. I did defeat. Super Mario was it two or whichever, gosh, I don't

even remember which one it was. All by yourself? Yeah, all by myself. I remember running at the very end, you had to run along this long corridor and picking up coins and it spelled out, you are a super player. So if somebody remembers which one that is, that's the one

I don't even know what gaming system that was. It was either the NES or the 64, I think it was the NES, but I remember every time You'd go save the princess. She would say, thank you, Mario, but our princess is in another castle. And when you get the very last one, spoiler alert for a game that came out 30 years ago, you'd go in and finally, you know, it's Peach. And she goes, thank you, Mario, but our princess is in another, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

You know, she's like it's hilarious. It's like, I about punched the TV screen when she started to say that shit. Anyway, all right. Thank you for being. being a nerd. Here's some more codes, but I can't beat the one that you brought. Here's one, and this was from Al sent these in, and he said, good day, doctor, on one of your recent shows.

You were talking about an interesting ICD-10 codes. Here are a few for you to indulge in on the insanity, and one is W34.111D, which is accidental malfunction of paintball gun. Why does it have to have, like, seven-characterial? for that. And then W-21.19 struck by other bad, comma, racad

or club. So, I don't know. Anyway. And then Y93.K9 activity involving animal care. Activity involving animal care. So, anyway.

Okay, doke. And then one last thing. And I didn't pick those out those were al so blame him uh this is from bill shaffer and i sent this on to dj melb said i'm finally listening to the show thank you thank you from the bottom of my heart this was the guy that you forgot to say happy birthday too and then we did the next week he said you guys made my day and then some dr scott is forgiven oh thank god and then i asked remember we were talking about that baking subreddit do you ever been on the baking subreddit you bake that's the

other thing that you do. As a matter of fact, if she's too busy, when they bring back America's, if they bring back the Great American Baking Show, which is with Paul Hollywood, by the way. I'll win. I'm going to submit Carissa because she is insanely great at baking and making things look pretty. Are you really? Yes.

Oh, that's cool. So do you know who Sherry Yard is then? No. Oh, you looked at me like, of course. But then she said no, so I got a weird mixed signal. So she's the other, she's been named, you know, America's top baker, and she's James Beard, you know, award winner and stuff. A real deal. But she's the other co-host, and it would be fun to be on there, and you get to go to England, and they do it there, and you're up against 10 other Americans, so, or 9 or 11, I don't know, the exact number.

But we need to do that. But anyway, we were talking about on this baking subreddit that people are posting pictures of, cakes, beautiful cakes like you make, with this, you know, insane mirror glaze and all these beautiful piping and all this stuff. And they say, I made this for myself for my birthday. And I just imagine these lonely people being all excited about making this cake and doing it all up and then just sitting down at the table, eating the whole thing crying the whole time. It just made me really sad.

And then Bill said, no, I didn't make a cake for myself. I'm a pie guy. So anyway, I'm a deputy sheriff January 1st, 2022. I started my 40th year in law enforcement. Way to go, man. That's cool. There's much more, but I'm already boring you. That's true.

Again, thanks for all that you do. I'm here if you need anything. Keep warm this weekend. Then he said, please tell DJ Mel B. Thanks for the shout at the end. That was sweet of you guys. So very good. So there's the thin blue line.

At least he heard his shot. out finally so all right you guys ready to take some phone calls oh wait you had a story though right this is interesting we've we've touched on this before go ahead um dnp carissa what do you got do you want me to read this well just give us the sort of readers digest if you just want to hit the conclusion you know talk about what it is and then hit the conclusion in the abstract and then people can go look it up if they want to sure absolutely so this is about a man who took a trip to the ICU after injecting mushrooms. Uh-oh.

Into his veins. A terrible idea. Obviously, he decided to do some research on his own to get over opioid addiction. Okay. And his research came across how mushrooms would potentially help. So he decided to. Yeah, there's some good data on this in psychiatric use of psilocybin. Yes, and he took psilocybin and made it.

made a tea with it he boiled him down no no no no no no no no no don't do that he took the liquid and then injected it directly into his veins oh no don't do that and a few days later his family found him unresponsive

took him to the ER he was hypotensive so he had low blood pressure yes low blood pressure so was he septic from it or what happened he was he was septic Okay, septic means he had bacteria growing in his bloodstream, and then you get a thing called septic shock,

which is where your blood pressure drops, and they have to put you on medication to keep your blood pumping. Go ahead. So it wasn't the psilocybin that did it. It was just injecting tea into his vein. Right. Did he get off? He had that.

I mean, did he say? Well, for a fuck sake. Well, I mean. I think the question is not, do you get off it, was he true? Was he tripping? I have no idea if he was tripping. It doesn't say he was not conscious to be able to let us know how he was feeling. Wow.

He was admitted to the ICU, the intensive care unit, for renal insufficiency, liver injury, multiple lab abnormalities. And on day two, he was diagnosed with fungi growing in his blood. There you go. so the moral that makes sense right the moral of the story was he attempted to use this psilocybin and melted it into a tea injected it and then the punny tag is he grew the mushrooms then in his blood oh that's a terrible joke poor bastard do you live though correct Okay, so we can laugh about it.

He did live, yes. Yeah, so he was on antibiotics long term. Basically injected fungus into his bloodstream. I wonder, though, was it psilocybin fungus that was growing? Does it say what brand of fungus grew? What was it? It couldn't be psilocybin. I wouldn't grow in his bloodstream.

Cilocybinocubinous? It was? Yes. Oh, my God. In example, the species of mushrooms he had in. injected was now growing from his blood. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

See, I just assumed he injected skin fungi. He, this, oh, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, he didn't even boil the water. I guess he just put it in water. Yeah, he just steeped it. Oh, okay, everybody, don't do this. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Correct.

He must have been tripping balls, though. So they had to kill this. So he was growing magic mushrooms in his bloodstream. Correct. And it was killing him. And I'll bet you he was tripping balls the whole time. And one would think if your blood's growing magic mushrooms that you'd be tripping balls. Holy molly.

Can you believe that? That's crazy. I mean, I've seen people get fungemia. Correct. From, you know, doing dumb things like I've seen people that had. like catheters going into a port and their dog bites the catheter and instead of coming in to get the thing replaced they just tape it up and all the dog mouth organisms including fungi get into their bloodstream and they end up you know almost dying from that so that's bad oh my goodness what that's a good one so there's a little discussion I can read it to you if you would like well is there anything more insane in there than what you've already said? I don't believe so.

The most important thing in that it talks about, though, is that there are... Don't do that. Don't do that. But there are also very positive uses correctly with the psilocybin. But, yes, and there's no, they don't know if he would have ongoing persistent psychoactive effects from growing magic mushrooms in his blood. Now, just, you know, the single cells may not produce the, the talk. or, you know, the psilocybin.

That's interesting because you may have to form that, you know, basically a mushroom's the sex organ of a fungus, and the majority of it, my understanding, is lives underground. But so without being able to form that, can they form psilocybin? I don't know. That's a good question. I'd like to think that they could, so at least he got something out of it. Yeah, or at least he was so stoned, he wasn't in miserable pain.

Right. So a couple of things here. People with opioid addiction can become very desperate for help. There is help out there. And if you don't know where to go and your primary care doesn't want to know where to go or you don't want to talk to your primary car, go to SAMHSA.gov. And it's S-A-M-S-H-A-Gv. And you, no, that's not right, then is it, shit.

That's Sam Shah, isn't it? S-A-N. H-S-A there it is okay substance abuse and mental health services so S-A mh-h-S-A.gov you put in your address or your zip code and it'll give you all kinds of stuff so find a facility near you let's find one near us I'm going to click on it this other thing that Carl really likes and here you go you put in your zip code or your city so I'm putting in somebody else's a zip code six, yeah

and then here you go and then there's like 20 of them just right near here and then just start picking up the phone and call them. You could stagger down the street here and get one we have so much of the prevalence is huge unfortunately

yeah yeah the need is huge but the need is huge but we have more facilities now than we did and just about everywhere it has more than they did which is good And so anyway, so yeah, check that out. All right, thank you. That's a good one.

I was good. Hey, you want the worst news of the day, Dr. Steve? I just saw it. She's so humble. Yeah. Worst news of the day. I just saw this. I was doing my show prep while you all were talking.

Yeah, of course. That's the best time to do it. Hey, but I've got a great story. During the show. I've got a great story. The reason why I didn't do it is we rescued a puppy today. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

She's a beautiful, too. Anyway, she's a little golden retriever. Her name is Sugaree. Sugary. You already named her? Yeah. She's my baby. A horrible name.

Thank you very much. She goes with Stella Blue, of course. Oh, okay, okay, okay, I guess. There may be a trend. There's some hippie meaning there. Yeah, something like that. Anyway, so New York Post, man's agonizing penis pain is found to be a rare side effect of COVID, and he guesses on what may have caused his penile pain.

I know you know, I know you're going to come up with it. Okay, I have an idea. You got an idea? You got an idea? No. I'm going to guess that he had clotting in his corpus. Oh, would I got that right? Give yourself a bill.

That's what I thought too. I figured he had blood clots and that is actually. Yeah, read it. Read it. Yeah, so, yes. New York Post that wonderful medical journal. It's the best I could do in a crunch. No, no, no, no.

That's a good one. That's a good one. But, you know, even if it's inaccurate, at least it's real, you know, the blood clots are real. Yeah, very real. Yeah, so it looks like a young man, 41-year-old was having sex, had never had any trauma or a pain associated with with erection. Excellent. Start having serious, serious pain during the encounter.

So he must have been post-COVID or he was one corny son of a bitch. Because when I had COVID, the last thing I was thinking about was getting my rocks off. But you know, it might have helped lower your fever. No. That'd be a good excuse. Exactly, yes. So anyway, so he's over. He's over COVID.

And we know that some of the adverse effects can happen. And how old is he? 41. Okay. So he's relatively young. Yeah. Okay. And then so he starts having pain.

Yeah. So two days later it goes to the urologist, and that's when they... Did he have priapism, did it say? Yeah, it's running, I'm getting towards the end of this. Because when you get a clot in your corpora cavernosa, those are the, you know, the big spongy, you know, you've got the... Sails in. Spongy areas in the penis. There's corpora cavernosa, corpora spongiosum, and when you get clots in there, you can get priapism, you can get all kinds of stuff.

And so if you have an erection that will not go away, that is a medical emergency. Four hours, you need to go to the emergency room or your penis can be permanently damaged. So what does it say? So it said it did resolve itself, and he had ultrasound showed no blood flow to vein. So I guess they went up doing an ultrasound once he got to the urologist said no blood flow past that clot. That's when they put him on the blood thinners. And now happy to report no pain and everything is fine down there in working order as he says. What is the work on goodness?

Oh, thank goodness. Can you imagine? Well, if that's not enough to get your attention on this being a real disease. Well, it's like. I was telling somebody the other day, and they laughed about it because he was outside smoking, and we were talking about quitting. And I said, you know, I used to smoke three packs a day, but I haven't smoked any since like 1999, 2000, somewhere in there. And they said, how'd you quit? I said, well, it sure wasn't the heart disease.

That didn't scare me, and cancer didn't scare me. But when I found out that the number one cause of irreversible impotence in men over 40 is tobacco abuse, I laid them down right away. And it made it easy. So it is funny. It's how, you know, the other stuff just doesn't scare you, but that scares the shit out of you. We're boys. You know, the reason I quit dipping Copenhagen is because I was having facial pain.

I thought, God, what happens if I get cancer in my jaw and I can't have a pretty girlfriend? Yeah. You know, it's not the cancer killing me. Right, right, right. Yeah, it's not being a good. Because they take off half your face. Yeah, that's insane. I ever tell you the story about my e.

and T professor and showing us the pictures of them taking half of people's faces off for head and neck cancer. Oh, yeah. I did tell you this. I've told this on this show. No, maybe not. Maybe not. So this guy, his name was Newton Fisher. He was very eccentric, and he was at the University of North Carolina, Chabwell Hill.

And there was this guy in our class. I'm just going to call him S.D. I'm not going to say his name because he's in practice. And S.D. was one of these guys. He and I studied together, so we were kind of friendly friends, I guess, but other people in my class could not stand him because he was kind of a, what's the word, he was difficult to be around. And he was a little bit of a brown-nosed or he liked being the center of attention. He was very smart. And I just remember one time there was this guy, we'll just call him Tony, who, S.D.

and I were down in the lab talking and Tony comes down and we were fourth year medical students at this point. Just fourth year medical students. And Tony comes down with these two vials of blood because, you know, we had to draw them back then. And SD looks at him

and goes, hey Tony, why don't she let some third year do that? And the way he said third year was just like, you know, some pond scum. We were two months into our fourth year. So he was a third year two months ago and he's already shitting on people under him.

What he didn't realize is that Tony wasn't in our class anymore, he got held back. So he was the third year, so it made it even worse. So he's just, you know, kind of an asshole. Well, anyway, okay. I don't think there's a kind of thing. That sort of just sets the scene. So we're in this lecture about head and neck cancer. And Newton Fisher keeps showing us one picture after another of people with half of their face

that has been dissected away. forehead neck cancer and so there's no cheeks there's no lips on that side you just see teeth and you see turbinates you know the other side of the nasal septum and they look like you know they look scary and we were like holy shit and newton fisher would yell at us let me see if i can do this right if i can do it right um he would yell at us and point at us from afar and go if you miss this diagnosis I will despise you and we were like shaking in our boots

well there's four we were in this large lecture hall and there's four empty rows with all of us and I was in the back with my best friend Ty and Jim and here's SD in the very front row looking up at Newton Fisher

right so there's no it's by himself, very front row. And then Newton Fisher would yell, if you, show us another picture. If you miss this diagnosis, I will despise you. And again, shaking in our boots.

And then all of a sudden, he just stops in the middle of his lecture and he looks down at SD. And he says, your beatific smile is insipid, sir. And we all just about shit our phone. is the greatest cut I've ever heard anybody

your beatific smile is insipid sir it was so great we love Newton that is hilarious wouldn't have known what it meant but I still would have been hilarious yeah you would have known what you know what

you know what beatific is right you know it's like you're a saint like you know like nobody's ever called me beatific anything right me either an insipid well you know what insipid

means. It's just completely tasteless. It's a diabetes insipitous. It means you're pissing out water that has no flavor. It has no sugar in it. It goes way back to when people used to taste urine. That's why they invented dipsticks, by the way. Some doctor invented dipstick

so they didn't have to taste people's piss anymore. But anyway, yeah. So, I mean, if you have to explain this, not nearly as funny, but, you know, it was just such a great. It was such a great day. And we still, so I went on this guy's health There's his health grades, and I put that on there.

And so when I tell this to my medical students, just to relate with them because it's a medical school story, and they can relate to what they call gunners, you know, people who are, you know, work a little bit too hard at the expense of their brethren. And then I said, let's go to his health grades, and I blow it up, and it says, your beatific smile is insipid, sir. It's just a good code into the story. But anyway, yeah, Newton Fisher had about nine kids. He was very, very eccentric.

At least I think, yeah, and anyway, and it was a great program. They invented the surgery that P.A. John had. Did you know that, Dr. Scott? Well, he had a, P.A. John had a stapies. Yeah, remobilization because he had, God, now I can't think of the name of it, otosclerosis. Yeah, because they had frozen together. Where the three bones in your middle ear, the tiny little bones. I mean, they're this tiny millimeters.

And they're supposed to move together to transmit air or vibration from the eardrum to the inner ear. And his were just frozen over, and they went in and remobilized them. Yeah, I forgot about that. All right. Okay, doke. We were going to take some medical questions. What do we have, eight minutes left? But anyway, here we go.

Hey, Dr. Steve, it's Albert from Albuquerque. How's you doing? Hey, Al. How are you? Great. Hey, listen, just calling back on kind of an ongoing saga. I called in before about some astronomical levels of testosterone that turned out to be, you know, not free testosterone, but total, affected by a sex hormone. Okay. And changing PSA levels, some seniorologists and doing some other diagnostics,

one of the things they just had me do to my pleasure or displeasure last week, I did have a prostate biopsy. Okay. And to those people who don't know what that entails, it's pretty interesting. They put you in some stirrups and you show the world what you got, what you don't got. Mostly what you don't got in my case. Lidicane to numb you up, supposedly. When they hit that pelvic floor, man, that was interesting.

Yeah. Then they go in with the needles and they shoot the shit out. He's 100% right. They do that to make them feel better, not to make us feel better. Scott and I can relate to this. The prostate taking chunks of prostate out, I guess, to stir into soup or something. I don't know. Anyway, to do, you know.

In any event, that all was good and fine and uncomfortable, but, you know, totally worth every minute of it if it's preventative of anything. Yeah, of course. But my question is, and I think you might answer this with somebody else, but it took me back. They said there's blood in the urine for a couple of weeks, six to eight weeks, potentially. And I was expecting a little blood in my urine. I've had kidney damage before where I've gotten shots in the kidney, and I've peed blood for a couple of days. And, you know, that was taint.

It's a little bit of a taint. This, I'm shooting blood clots out of the dick. You know what I mean? It's a plop, plop, plop. They're hitting the water. three-in-one shot one time. Nice. And then I had the brilliant idea,

maybe I need to clean out some other tubes. So I did your favorite thing. Go ahead, play it. Yep, I did that, you know. Fully ejaculated, comfortable and enjoyable, and holy shit horrific when nothing but blood

seemed to come out of the neck to my dick. Yeah. So anyways, took me back a little bit. But, you know, they... Okay, I know what he's going to ask. How can it be that he's still bleeding? this long and the thing is he's not what's happening is is that when they did the biopsy there is bleeding but it kind of just works its way through the prostate right and all of those

little tubes and all that stuff and when you urinate some of those things will cut loose and you'll you'll express some of them it only takes a few drops of blood to make a blood clot and it only makes a few drops of blood to make semen completely blood red. So what you're really doing is just emptying out that sponge, which, you know, prostate's kind of spongy, that sponge of all the blood that collected when they did the procedure. That's basically it. And there may have been some bleeding afterward, obviously. And if it congested your prostate out a little bit, then you've just got that much more that you've got to clear.

But that's what's going on. All right? Yeah. Questions, comments? All right, because I want to get this question. And then we've got, no, let's do this one. There's two about COVID that I do want to cover. This is the guy who posted a video from Dr. John Campbell,

where he was quoting some COVID death without any pre-existing conditions. This is for England and Wales. Yeah. Those numbers were derived from actual death to the United. So what he's referring to is there was a study that showed that there was a, I think, 15% of people who died didn't have any pre-existing conditions. And this was in New Zealand or Australia, somewhere like that. I don't remember the exact study. But I asked him, where did they get the data from?

And indeed, it was from death certificates. So let me tell you something. Doctors don't know how to fill out death certificates. So when you see this thing from the CDC where they say, well, 6% of people had come. COVID is their primary diagnosis. And people go, oh, see? So 94% of people died with COVID, but not from COVID. It's like, no, it's, they don't know how to fill the death certificate out.

So those 6% that said patient died of COVID-19, those are the ones that are filled out incorrectly. Because what do you, you know, Carissa, you see lots of people with COVID. What do they die from when they have COVID-19? Number one thing. Thank you. Okay. Give yourself a bill. That's one of them.

So the proper way to fill out the death certificate would be respiratory failure due to, or as approximately caused by, or however they word it, depending on the state you're in, by viral pneumonia caused by COVID-19. That's a properly filled out death certificate. If you just put COVID-19 at the top and turn it in, they'll accept it. And it'll go into the record as someone who had COVID-19 with no comorbidities, it's just COVID-19, but that is not scientific. And what it really reflects is just piss poor death certificate filling out of skills. A terrible sentence, but you know what? All right.

Okay, and then I'm going to get this one, too, because this one drove me crazy in the news this week. Hey, Dr. Steve, and whoever else is in there with you. Thanks. So I sent you an email with a screenshot of a tweet about the FDA banning use of certain monoclonal antibodies. Yes. And what, it turns out that some of them are. You're stealing my thunder, dude.

What the ones that were sent to me was, hey, did you see this? And it was Florida says they can't give antibodies because the FDA is taken away from them or something like that. I mean, that was what they were implying was that somehow someone was conspiring to keep monoclonal antibodies out of the hands of people that needed it. And if you saw it spun that way, it was incorrect. This is the, what really happened was with Omicron, now being 95 to 99% of cases, Regencove, which was the one I got for Delta, I had Delta, Regencove and the other one. I can't remember the other one's name. They don't work anymore.

Now, can you imagine, though, being regeneron and it's like you've got this wildly successful treatment to keep people out of the hospital? It was wildly successful for me. I had it, and the next day I was completely normal, didn't miss a day at work. I had to work telehealth because I was in isolation, but I didn't miss a day at work. And then one day

this new variant comes, and your stuff is just shit, it's worthless. That would be maddening to me as a researcher. But anyway, so that's what happened was the Regencove and the other one, again, can't remember the name of it right now, were authorized

under one of those emergency use authorizations. Well, once they didn't work anymore, the FDA just revoked it. That's all it was. We still have Satrovimab. Satrovimab is a monoclonal antibody, just like Regenco,

except it is effective against Omicron. The problem is, they weren't expecting this. It's like they were sort of third competing against Regeneron and the other company, Eli

Lily and all of a sudden they're thrust into the forefront and they weren't ready they were caught with their proverbial pants down so now they're going to have to ramp up and I know they're leery about ramping up because they're like well what happens if there's another another variant that now we are worthless so they don't want to spend a lot of money on it but they kind of need to because there's a huge demand for it so it's a little bit of an interesting situation so that's what happened. And the emergency use was just withdrawn, not for any nefarious purpose, but just simply because this stuff doesn't work anymore. All right. There you go. Now I'll let him finish his question, see if he had anything in there. Umacron, I guess. Is that what we're seeing

here? So it seems logical that they manned it, I guess. Yeah. Because it doesn't work for this very. See, I wanted to be the genius. He answered his own question. All right. We have one quickie, I think, that we can do. And it is on, I can't remember. Oh, yeah, it's this one. Sorry. Okay, here we go. Well, are you going to say something that's on that party line?

Well, hello, Dr. Steve and Drew. Hello, hello, my friend. How is your New Year's? Good, good, good. How about you? Hope it as well. Thank you. Anyways, hey, I have another stupid COVID question.

No such thing. So I have a cousin that works as an RN in Spokane, Washington emergency room at a hospital. And I also have an aunt who works as a, I think she's an aide or something, but she works in an emergency. Okay. They are both seeing more vaccinated cases and unvaccinated. And I'm wondering if you're, I think you've mentioned before that you, are in and out of the hospital as well these days.

So can you are you seeing the same thing at your hospital and why and also by the way they were seeing this before Omicron but that's beside the point but

are you seeing this as well and also is why is this considered misinformation if you know the answer to that. Well, I don't think it is considered misinformation. We're seeing lots and lots of cases, breakthrough cases of, you know, the vaccine doesn't seem

to be preventing people from getting COVID like we hoped it would in the beginning, and certainly as it was sold to us. But what we are seeing is, well, let's just ask DNP Carissa, how many of your patients who are on the ventilator right now have been vaccinated, a percentage? I mean, do you know of any?

No, I was going to say less than one. I mean, I don't know of any personally. I have not seen one on the ventilator that's been vaccinated in quite some time, and when I say quite some time, I'm talking months and months. Now, I think we had one, and that person was 85 and had cancer or something,

and they had been vaccinated, and they just didn't do well. But, you know, they had multiple, multiple comorbidities. So I don't think that's misinformation. If I get thrown off of the error or off YouTube for saying that we're having lots of breakthrough cases, you know, so be it. That's the truth. We are. And some of them are showing up at the hospital.

We've even had some being admitted. We've got some right now that are being admitted. It's like, why are they admitting them? I walk in and they're fine. It's just that they feel like they're at risk because they're elderly or whatever and then they're getting discharged in a day or two so we're admitting a lot more people

in the beginning of this thing we were so afraid of the hospitals filling up with nothing but COVID patients they were sending people home who actually had low blood oxygen just giving them a prescription for oxygen saying hey call us if you get worse so that part it seems to have changed

they seem to be admitting those people now Is that your experience as well? Yeah, I've seen a lot of COVID patients that are rather healthy. I mean, we're just kind of watching. And just sitting there. And I did remember one, and it's also been months ago, and the patient was vaccinated, but had only had the first dose and also had metastatic cancer and multiple comorbidities. Yeah, that seems to be the truth of it.

is multiple comorbidities are you know that that increases your risk although even if you're 85 I mean in the beginning with OG COVID the death rate if they were admitted was something like 20% but that means 80% did just fine you know it's still a 20% is a big number massive number yeah yeah but anyway what we're seeing now is the reason we're having this surge if you go to COVID.stoutlabs.com. I wish this was a, you know, more of a video show. Maybe if we put something like this up on our YouTube channel, I'll add some of these graphics.

But if you look at the number of cases that we're having right now, we need to stop reporting cases because, yeah, they're record numbers of cases, but we need to be looking at deaths. So if we go at COVID-stoutlabs, S-T-O-U-T-L-A-B-S, dot com and then just uh select the united states because that's what we're interested in right i mean and uh look at new cases and add the the cool thing is is that you can add a smooth a simple moving average you can add bollinger bands and if you look at it right now you can see that we have it looks like we peaked on uh January 20th which was six days ago

And as long as this thing follows the same sort of curve that the others did, which was a very symmetrical sort of Gaussian curve. And I'm looking at 750 days of this, and you can see the first peak was around July 23rd of 2020, and then the next peak was December 23rd of 2020. Then we had another peak on September 7th, which is the day I got it, by the way, of 2021. And now we've got this massive peak. This is the biggest peak we've had in cases. And it's already, so it looks like it peaked on the 20th. And so we're recording this on the 26th. So if this holds and it does a Gaussian curve, we should see, tell me this, how many days from now is December?

5th because that's when it should return back to baseline if this thing follows a Gaussian curve. So December 5th to January 5th so in what seven weeks that would be the prediction based on this website that in seven weeks

if this follows the same morphology that the other curves did that we'll see us back to normal again. Now let's look at new deaths so that's and I may go ahead and put this on. Deaths has creeped up some.

It was absolutely flat, and it is starting to creep up slightly, but it is not even close to the point that it was in January of 2021, which was right after the peak of cases at Christmas, and it's right around but lower than the peak from 927-21, which was the peak in deaths because of Delta. So very interesting. So this is, if you look, comparatively speaking, the number of cases to the number of deaths, the ratio is much greater with this one, which is good. That means it's good.

That means it's way fewer people on a proportionate scale are dying from it. It's just that the numbers are going up because of the huge numbers of cases that we have. But deaths and hospitalizations should be what we're looking at, not care. cases. Anyway, all right. We have, let's see here, did I do? Yeah, I had one where the person asked and about whether there was any benefit to getting a Moderna booster if they had AstraZeneca, and I meant to get, somehow I erased over that question. And there was one study out of Oxford that said, indeed, that actually provided pretty good immunity and that they were recommending it if you couldn't get the third dose of AstraZeneca or whatever they're recommending now. So if that's all you've got, that's totally fine to do, but talk to your health care provider.

Don't take my advice on that. I'm just going by the Oxford study. All right. We have our buddy Cardiff Electric. created a new theme song for himself and since we're from the Cardiff Electric Studios, you know, he's our boss we need to play this for him.

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because he's the guy that all the girls want to be with on-huh, on. Cardiff Electric the most famous podcast in the world today. He's got great guests on his show like Dr. Steve and some other people. We love you, Cardiff.

Love it. Uh-oh. Love it. All right. Thanks, buddy. All right. We did titanium allergy last time. We had one from peppermint Patty, and she is a two-parter, so I thought we played the first part and then the second part, and then we'll probably get out of here.

some point. Okay. Hi, Dr. Steve. You doing okay on time? Patty. I'm calling you with something. I hope you can give me some direction on as none of the doctors. When do you need to leave? It's 525. Are you okay? Yeah, about 5.30. Okay, okay. Yeah, this is just... The years have been able to figure this out. A little background. It started in my mid to late 20s where the left side under my eye would swell. I would get horrendous headaches, the fatigue would be so overwhelming. The smallest tasks would be nearly impossible.

Over the years, you know, I'd get it maybe once or twice, maybe three times a year. Over the last 10 years, I've had it, you know, maybe three or four times a year. The last five years, I've had kind of a little bit of constant swelling on the left side under my butt. It has progressed to where they're swelling under both my eyes, going down into my... Okay, I know what she has. Do you know what it is? Happens a couple or three times a year. It's accompanied by swelling under her eyes, and she gets a horrendous, horrendous headache.

Both eyes? Well, now it's both, but at first it was just one. Yeah, when she first thought, I was thinking shingles initially. No. Nope. I'm going to give you... Hachimodo. I don't think so.

I think it's cluster headaches. And the reason why I say that is it just happens a few times a year, and that's usually associated with histamine release. So you'll get facial sweating, or you can get nasal congestion. You can get drooping of the eyelids, but you can get eye watering, too. When you get the watering of the eyes, and it also says eyelid swelling or edema, either above or below the eyes. So I think that's what it is.

Did she say how she treated it? Because, I mean, if it's just a 02. over my eyelids. That's got to be what it is. It's cluster headaches. Patty, if they didn't diagnose you with that, give us a call. Now, she's got another, she had another part two to this. I'm just going to play it.

Hey, Dr. Steve, it's peppermint Patty again. I just wanted to call and add a couple things that hopefully will be helpful to you and helping me figure out what to do and where to go with all this mutin. mutinine disease. Normally, when I would get these mutinyi disease attacks, they would treat them with a Z-PAC, prednisone, and antibiotics. The prednisone might help. During the years, these were happening, I also had advanced Graves disease, radiation, and thyroid storm. There was one incident where I woke up when morning, and I had swelling, and the whites of my eyes were almost neon red. non-red would be a subconjunctival hemorrhage where you bleed under the conjuncta, but that's interesting. I'm still going to go with cluster headache for the original thing, but, you know, her thyroid, she needs to see an ophthalmologist to measure the protrusion of her eye from the socket. And we have a friend who's been in the studio with us, and I'm not going to say his name, but he played with Super Android 23, who has.

Graves disease and that can make your eyeballs bloop out that there was this one guy on the only reason I know this because my wife watches that I don't want from 90-day fiancee and he was I think it was on the other way and he got diagnosed from people seeing him on that show and saying why did his eyeballs look like that and somebody said dude you've got Graves disease and indeed he did so that she needs to get that check too but I'd see a neurologist for cluster headaches yeah and then get your eyeballs checked to make sure that you don't have what we call exophthalmos. Exophthalmos.

And in those close headaches are pretty treatable. Yeah. Yeah, they are. Pretty easily. They're a pain in the ads. Yeah, they're terrible. Oh, this is our boss. How are you?

Fine, thanks. How are you, my friend? I know we're playing this again. I'm great. Thank you for asking. I have a medical question for you. Okay. Yep.

Happy to answer. Any questions? I am looking for a set of forceps. to use for recreational purposes. Excellent. Can you recommend a good brand or model for me? I think going to Amazon is the place for, you're looking for... I will mute my radio.

Thank you. And listen to the answer. Thank you, my friend. Mosquito foreseps is what you're looking for. If what you're looking for is something to hold, let's say, rolled-up piece of paper that you might hold up to your mouth, something like that. You're looking for a mosquito forceps. You can buy those at Amazon.

All right. No particular. Or your local head shop. Yeah. Or your local head shop. Exactly right. All right. Thank you, everyone.

Do we have any questions for you? You don't have time to answer any questions from the waiting room, do you? No, but I asked before we started a podcast, nothing new. Okay. We can't forget Rob Sprantz, Bob Kelly, Greg Hughes, Anthony Coimia. Thank you for coming, uh, caress. Did you have fun? Of course.

Yeah, try not to talk so much next time, though, okay. Right. No, but I'm telling you, you brought, the only, you and Lydia are in competition for the greatest story ever brought into the studio. And it's just been in the last year. Lydia had a guy who had a tapeworm, and the tapeworm had cancer, and he got metastatic cancer from the tapeworm. So he had, like, he had cancer cells in his face or something. something. When they, when they typed them, they weren't human. They were tapeworm cells, tapeworm cancer cells. So that and the growing magic mushrooms in your bloodstream, I think,

are the two best medical stories from the literature that we've ever had in here. So thank you. Of course. Thank you. You can come back anytime. And in three weeks, as a matter of fact. So we can't forget Jim Norton, Travis Tep, that Gould Girl, Lewis, Johnson, Paul Ophcharski, Chowdy, 1008, Eric Nagel, the Port Charlotte Horror. DJ Jazz E.C. The Saratoga Skank. The Florida Flusi.

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We'll see you in one week for the next edition of Weird Medicine. Thanks, everybody. Thank you, guys. Get out of here, Scott. Yeah, I apologize. I'm headed to moker at home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right on.