Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 496 - Scorn, Defiance, Slight Regard

Episode Date: March 10, 2022

Title has nothing to do with this week's show, other than I had a bad day and I love Shakespeare's "Henry V." I stick my foot in my mouth at least twice and Tacie makes me leave it there, twice. Dr Scott brings some interesting facts and Kim Chickens asks about Functional Medicine. This is one of those few episodes where listening to the shoutouts at the end may actually be mildly amusing. Please Visit: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) simplyherbals.net (now with CBD nasal spray!) Cameo.com/weirdmedicine (Book your old pal right now while he’s still cheap!) noom.doctorsteve.com (the link still works! Lose weight now before swimsuit season!) CHECK US OUT ON PATREON!  ALL NEW CONTENT! Robert Kelly, mystery guests! Check out our sponsor: BETTERHELP.COM/MEDICINE (we all could use a little help right now. Professional counseling. Now. Privately. Online.) #ad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He's got CBD nasal spray in stock. You get in any orders? Is it flying off the shelves? It should be. It is, yeah. Is it? Yeah, it's been. You make any money doing something like that?

Not much, but. I mean, enough to. Oh, yeah, to cover cost for sure. Well, yeah, I mean, enough to go on vacation at the end of the year. Oh, no. No, I know. Your enterprises sound like mine. Not even if you fly Allegiant.

No, maybe, maybe, maybe. But not that much, don't. Yeah, well, I wouldn't mind a trip to. Send Dr. Scott on vacation. Go to simplyherbils.net and buy some of his malarkey. And help Tacey in retirement. Patreon.com slash weird medicine. And we're doing some regular shows, Tacey and I,

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haven't canceled us yet. That's cool. So there you go. All right. By God, I am shot out of a canon today. I've been working on administrative stuff all day. Let me just ask you this, Dr. Scott. I want to see if you're smarter than an administrator. Okay. So if you, Okay, so you graph the number of storks in Norway. Okay. Stork population in Norway over time. Okay. And you see the stork population increasing over time.

And then you see, you graph the birth rate of Norway over time. And you see the birth rate increasing over time. would you make the conclusion from that that the increased stork population is somehow attributing or contributing to the increase in the birth rate? I'd say absolutely. In other words, you know, that the storks are bringing these babies at people's houses. Would you make that assumption? That'd be a stretch, but I'd say no.

Okay, thank you. Yeah, that's all that's, you can give yourself a bill. You are smarter than some people that I work with. That's right. I have some measure of control over my life. That's all I'm going to say. Hey, I appreciate you spitting the bar so little I can trip over it. Since it's the first question.

Thank you. Well, that's the thing. It's in rocket science. Correlation is not the same thing as causation. Right. Period. I can't say anymore. We've covered it for.

15 years? Yes. Our audience is incredibly sophisticated. Yes. Really is. The people who have listened to us this whole time, they'll start quoting to me, well, that's not a double-blind placebo-controlled study. You know, that's not, you know, grade A evidence and stuff like that. I'm very impressed. And it's not only that, they know lots of stuff. They know the anatomy of the testicle pretty well because every October we go over it. And, you know, they

know some critical thinking. that isn't out there, and so I'm very impressed with our audience. Yeah, they are great. And, yes, anyone who's listened to this show for any period of time would have been able to just say, yeah, correlation and causation aren't the same thing. They're not. So, all right. All right, that's enough of that.

Anyway, you have some, God, I cannot wait to retire. It's pretty good. Yeah. I like it. Yeah, yeah. How's retirement going, Taze? It's fabulous. Yeah, tell us about it.

What's your day life? Oh, God, here we go. I'm just so busy. Get your seat belt on. It's going to be a bumpy ride of them. I get up around, well, eight, because the dogs. But then, or earlier, usually seven to eight. Well, if our youngest is home.

He wakes me up going out the door. Yeah. But he lets the dogs out. So we can even, we don't even have to get up. This kid, this damn kid is so self-sufficient. And maybe everybody talks about their kid. Oh, they're the greatest kid in the world. We've never had one like that before.

That's true. We have two. And they're both delightful, but they're very different. And Beck is very self-sufficient, probably because his brother required so much attention. So much. That he just had to. Well, I guess I'm on my own here. but he gets his alarm goes off at six it goes off again at 610 he gets his ass up he takes a shower

I'm not in there going back back back get up get up get up unlike a different person that we in and and then he gets up gets it I you know I'll set out some stuff for him to eat the night before I boiled eggs for him last now obviously I put those in the refrigerator I'm not a complete idiot and but he makes himself some breakfast he lets the dogs out he feeds him. He lets him back in, locks everything up, gets his euphonium, and drives himself to school. And it's

like, hell yeah, dude. It's lovely. It is lovely. It's also nice to be needed by your kid, but he needs us for money, but he doesn't need much else. Then the dogs come running upstairs and jump on the bed because they think it's playtime. Right.

That's funny. Yeah, so I'm getting called. someone at work must be listening because now they're calling but um what did you say about me we're busy we're solving all so let's get back to my busy life yes yes yes so anyway the dogs jump on the bed at seven o'clock and they wake you up licking you on the face this sounds horrible and i watch the today show for a couple of hours and drink coffee oh can you watch that then i'll is that before the wine or no i've not been drinking during the week Oh, okay.

Well, there you go. And so then, yeah, I make myself get up and take a shower because people expect you to wear pants. Yes. Pants are important. The world's full of just assholes. Judging your. God damn, this is about as boring. I know.

I know it is, but I don't care. This is my new life. Can you please stop bullshitting and get to the question? And then there's usually a midday nap and 90-day fiancé shows like that. 90-day shit. TLC shows about fat people, which is definitely where I'm headed. I watched three movies yesterday. That was pretty good.

Who is it that we know that's into 90-day fiancé that you're going to have on the show? Oh, you said, who is it? Jimmy Norton? Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, Jimmy. So Jim's going to be on our Patreon show with us, and rather than do the regular exam room format, which is where the comedian or celebrity asks us medical questions, We let them just ask, you know, many medical or science questions they want to ask.

It's kind of a fun format. Tacey and Jim are going to talk about 90-day fiancé. Yeah. Okay, so after you figure out what, who are the people on 90-day fiancé now? Well, I mean, it's. Just give us the. There's a bunch of people. There's one guy who won't take his hat off because he's got this weird hair pattern.

There's only hair patch in the back. That's the one that gave, he went to Peru and he's got a hot girlfriend, right? And she's psycho crazy. Well, he's making her psycho crazy. No, no, no, no. This girl's. You think she was crazy before about? I mean, yeah.

Allegedly. I'm sorry, but I know it when I see it. Okay. So she has a different reaction to stimuli than you do. But didn't he give her an electric toothbrush? Christmas? Let's come on. What?

And she got mad at him and threw it outside. Well, sure. He went and retrieved it in case they got back together, which they did. But then did she wanted the toothbrush back? Yeah, she has it back. I mean, didn't he give that to her because he thinks in Peru they don't brush their teeth or something? He found, no, I don't know why. He found her fingernail and he wanted to keep something of her and he kept it.

Okay, I'm going to interrupt here. I'm going to interrupt it. Well, that's because you're an idiot. This show is fabulous. And I don't, these people who don't watch it, I don't understand. They just don't know what they're missing. So, you know, years ago, speaking of buying an electric toothbrush. Okay.

Years ago, my ex-wife, who, you know, have heard me come closer because I really want to hear this. Yeah, we've all been, I've been bitching about her for the last 15 years or so. Yeah. If it wasn't for her, I'd be like Tacey retired, too. But anyway. Yeah, so she was bitching and raising help. My ex got my retirement before I had much in it. Oh, that's good.

Yeah, she got a half of it. But anyway, go ahead. Oh, man. So, yeah, so she was bitching and complaining because the floors are always dirty. And I said, well, listen, you know, we've got three dogs and me bringing dirt into here. And it's not real, real difficult to clean it up. No, there is a protocol for cleaning floors. It's not, it's not difficult.

But bitching about it doesn't fix it. Right. Right. So that always helps when I say that. Yeah. I don't like to bitch about it. I like to do something. So for her, I bought her the room.

No, no, no, no, no, okay. I bought a room. Yeah, I bought a room because I said, listen, we can put this, we can program it. It was like $500 is the nicest one they made at the time. She pitched the biggest pitch. She sent that fucking thing. You weren't reading the room on that one. Dude, she sent it back and kept the money.

Well, okay. No, it's not cool. You can't tell me that's acceptable. You can't tell me that's not cool. Oh, no, if someone returns a gift and they get the money. Okay, here's the issue with me in the Roomba. Like, I'm going to have to start cleaning, I think. And the problem with that is I don't even know if we have a vacuum cleaner.

So I may need one. I know I've seen three of them. No, I'm serious. We have three. I've seen at least three. At least three. I know we've got the shark, but that's little. I mean, I'm talking something.

Electrolux. So we're going to have to buy supplies and things like it, because I don't know where any of that shit is. Okay. Now, Tacey got a room for Christmas, but she asked for it. She said I would like to have one of those. Well, I mean. It's a different thing.

We had a friend who gave his wife a scale for Christmas. Now that would not be a good call, but I thought I was. help it. I thought I was making a positive step forward. You're not supposed to help at Christmas. I remember that, but I don't remember who it was. But he used to be on this show a lot. Okay. And he's an attorney. Oh, oh, God. It was his ex-wife he bought one for her. Yeah, yeah. Not the current wife. So, yeah, if you had bought that for her a week before Christmas and then given her a Christmas was present, you probably would have been a hero.

I remember him defending that, that it had all the bells and whistles. Yes, I thought I was doing good. Well, so the other person did about the scale, too. Oh, you can graph your weight over that. Yeah, no, no, no. That's what he was saying. Yeah, you can. I may be dumb, but I ain't stupid.

That's stupid. That is stupid. But, no, if you give somebody a gift when they return it, they get to keep the money. That's just how that works. Yeah. I'll remember that, Dr. Steve. So I really just recommend 90-day fiancé for everyone. Well, there you go.

We're doing marital advice. Don't give your wife an appliance. Any kind of thing that implies that it's her job to do something. And when you watch it, you just think you see these shit shows and then you're like, you know what, we don't have it that bad. Yeah. Well, that's a good one. The other thing is, don't give your, if you're just meeting your girlfriend for the first time, don't give her deodorant. I'm talking at you, Big Ed, or a toothbrush, you know, making some implication about somebody's hygiene, for God's sake.

Or a razor, you know. I mean, mouthwash. That's why these people are on those shows, though, because they're just clueless about how to interact with human beings. It's wonderful. You know, if they had, they used to, there'd be at least one couple that was sort of functional that was interesting. And now it just seems like it's just one dysfunctional lunatic after another. But anyway, all right. So enough about that.

Yeah. That's unbelievable. So that's your retired. Oh, no, wait. So we haven't even gotten to 1 p.m. yet. No. Well, that's snap, Tom. Okay.

Okay. Okay, okay. And then just my TV shows, I guess, the three movies I watched yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds delightful. It does sound delightful, and you're just very newly retired. I mean, it's not like you had, didn't work your ass off for, since you were, you know, 18.

16. And you're older than you look, so that's the other thing. People look at you, and they go, oh, Anna, she's so young. Is that good or bad? No. Okay, you look younger. You look younger than you are, is what I should have said. Okay, yeah, okay.

But people look at you, go, oh, no, you know, she's only 28, and how is she retired? That's bullshit. She must have it easy. Oh, I'm cussing a lot. Oh, money retired left. I cuss a lot, I guess. Yep. Well, you don't have to worry about your boss hearing you anymore.

Anyway, all right. hilarious yeah i'm sure we're boring people to tears sorry sorry no no you're not it's it's me so all right so and then what's the rest of your day then i come home and then what then we eat and we watch more tv that's some life that is an awesome i want to dry it man i'm thinking i'm thinking i can handle it it's really nice and people want me to go places and i'm like and you're going and you are going no not really no oh come on she's been on more vacations in the last three and does Vacations are one thing, but like to Walmart or Target, I still buy stuff online. Oh, yeah.

I don't want to get out of the house. Like, they make you wear pants. If you want to go somewhere, you want to go somewhere, you know. Yeah. Awesome. Okay. I love it. All right.

That's what retirement looks like, everybody. I wonder, I mean, you're newly retired, so this is new. I think you'll probably get into a different new normal down the road, but we'll see. you know where you're doing I don't know she seems pretty happy yeah will you be disappointed if I just turns out

I'm just lazy no no I won't maybe he'll maybe one of these days he'll be lazy with you that would be nice that would be nice I wouldn't count on though all right

he's crazy and I am and that's trouble yeah he'd just stay up here the whole time yeah that's true I got a ham radio in the other room and then the music studio's right next door to it and we're right here

so what else would I need to do all right anyway enough um what do you got dr scott well kind of piggybacking on um what she was talking about a little while ago with um please don't do that i just get so i figure it out i figured out if we would have had this article okay at the beginning of COVID yeah years ago COVID would have lasted for a week or two okay max well you know I had the solution to ending it in a week oh yeah what was that put everybody in a bubble it would take longer than a week it would take it would take 14 days but 14 days well just everybody's in a bubble you don't touch anybody yep nothing it be reasonable no it's idiotic but it's there's nothing in the laws of physics

that says that you couldn't do it it just would be very impractical but it would have ended it immediately also probably end every other viral issue that we have yep just tell everybody go to the store get what they need for the next two weeks seven well you would have to have seven billion big giant rubbles that people have to live in. Or what about it instead of just staying at the house and not leaving your apartment or house for two weeks? Well, we tried that two weeks to flatten the curve bullshit. Yeah.

That was kind of nice, though. Well, it wasn't just, you know, now it's two years to not do anything and still do all the same things, but not accomplished very much. that's kind of like that sounds like the life of a retired person it does well thankfully if you go to covid dotlabs.com he's got it set now so that the first thing that comes up is the united states and it's looking pretty damn good right now yeah that's a good thing yeah so keep it up yeah so your solution was put everybody in a bubble it's it's just nature doing it we're not doing anything doesn't seem to be anyway i mean therapeutics and vaccines of course of course yeah

You know. I'm outside that. Well, good. So here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my, here's my solution. Okay. If we would have had this research. Okay. We'd be over with COVID instantly.

Okay. So here's the, here's the article. COVID-19 can infect penis and testicle cells potentially causing erect all this functions that he finds. Ooh. That's right. Really? Yep. Yep.

So what they're saying is men, men who contracted COVID. 19, three times more likely to develop erectile dysfunction. Yep. And they're finding the virus goes into the testicles and the penis. Both can cause erectile dysfunction like a perone's disease. What? Causes swelling in the cells and the testicles and penis. It can even cause you to become infertile.

It affects the sperm if you get a bad case. Do they use the word orchitis in there? O-R-C-H-I-T-I-S. That's actual inflammation of the testes. I didn't see that, but no, that's... Hang on, I'm looking the shit. But you are right. You are correct, sir.

Thank you. Inflammation. So a study published last year by the University of Florida found that men who had recovered from a virus are three times more likely to develop the condition of erectile dysfunction than not. That's the University of Florida. Now, again, they are gators, so that's, that's, you know, that is what it is. Yeah. I don't know what that even means. Well, we're Tennessee and they're Florida gators.

That's all that means. Okay. And we'll leave it at that. All right. So, yeah, so I feel like if that article would come out, all of the men would have paid attention and would have done anything they could do to keep from getting the virus. Wow. Just the fear of erectile this function.

You know, when you get, this is not unheard of. When you get mumps as an adult, you can get, you know, orky epididymitis. Right. Which is not comfortable. No. It hurts like. No, and it can do some bad things to you, too. Here's, yeah, here's some cases of case report by Galliarde et al, claimed that the first described case of orchi epididymitis with concurrent COVID-19 infection suggested that a testicular involvement could be expected in COVID-19 patients.

In the way, as it been reported, authors are somewhat misleading, and seemed to associate COVID-19 to that without any biologic data at that time. Now, this was older, this was 2020. So what article are you looking at? I've already moved on the next one. Oh, you son of a bitch. No, no, but I'll go back. I'll go back. I'll look at the next one.

Let's look, effective COVID-19 on male reproductive system, a systematic review. This will be good. Yeah, there go. Because this systematic review is a study where they take a bunch of data from a bunch of studies and mush it together and then they identified 28 related studies, only one of which reported the presence of COVID-19 virus in the semen. The study found semen quality of patients with moderate infection was lower than that of patients with mild infection and healthy controls.

Wow. Impaired semen quality, oh, this semen has a very poor quality, may be related to fever in inflammation. Pathologic analysis of the testis epididymis showed that SARS-COV-2 viral particles were positive in 10 testicular samples. God, I'm not giving them a sample of my nuts after this, though. You know what they'd have to do to do that?

Like a core biopsy or something? You know, they have to numb up, they have to prep your scrotum, and then they have to numb it up, and then they have to, well, yeah, and then numb it up, and then do an incision, identify the testicle, and then go in and actually take a core of the testicle out and then look at it under the microscope.

I think if I knew they were going to be doing that to me, they'd have to find my testicles first. They'd be retracted. Yeah, they'd be retracted. Pathologic analysis. Okay, oh, I already said that. All 94 expressed prostatic secretion samples were negative for SARS-COV-2 RNA. So that's interesting.

so it wasn't getting into the prostate, but it was getting into the testicles. That's wild. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Crazy. And then they were saying, semen should rarely be regarded as a carrier of SARS-COV-2 genetic material.

However, COVID-19 may cause testicular spermatogenic dysfunction via immune or inflammatory reaction. So they were saying, in this case, wasn't so much that the virus was infecting the testicles, but that the viral infection of other parts of the body was causing inflammation in the testicles. Wow. So does the sperm work as well?

Like, will the outcome? No, that's what they mean by quality. I mean, I was being silly trying to sound like the sommelier. When you say outcome. That was my sommelier voice, by the way. I wasn't trying to be anything other than that. I didn't like that voice.

So when you, the outcome of a baby's Born? Yes. Now listen to this. They say long-term follow-up is needed for COVID-19 male patients and fetuses conceived during the father's infection period. So they don't know. They don't have any data on that yet. So I'll tell you one thing, though.

When I had COVID-19, the last thing I was thinking about was, you know, strut my stuff and get it down and getting somebody pregnant, particularly tasty. Oh, well, that's been trouble. You know? So, I don't know how many... Particularly tastes. Well, I'm just saying... Particularly, that's right. In the sense that you're the only person I would actually have intercourse with.

Mm-hmm. It didn't sound really. No, it isn't. You get nothing! That's pretty much... Yeah, you only get nothing now. Sums it up. But, yeah, what I meant was I wasn't thinking of having sex with my wife,

which is probably I should have just said that instead of trying to be clever. And, you know, when I had COVID, so I would think that the number of people that had active infection with COVID-19, unless they were just asymptomatic, that got somebody pregnant while they were infected is probably pretty low. But when you're looking at hundreds of millions of cases, there will be some. So those will be interesting to follow. Anyway. Cool. interesting good stuff you know last week you brought one of the best things that you've well now it is the best thing you ever brought and i would like for you to bring more stuff like that

that was that the birthing oh yeah yeah that was fascinating that was pretty cool yeah it's incredible there's so many crazy things out there that are really interesting i know yeah i'm really interesting yeah i'll start my show prep before the show starts next week that was good you could tell that you had that she did that i just don't have timer i would now here's something yeah tacy doesn't have time to do any show for that. No, no, God bless her. No, she has the time, she has none of the inclination, none whatsoever. Now, here's something. Yep. I'm right, right, that's right. Okay. Now, Dr. Steve, I'm going to have to check every time I say something and make sure I didn't say something stupid. All right, Dr. Steve, I want to quiz you, are you ready for this? Yep, I'm ready.

Next topic. Okay. Does your height affect your odds for colon cancer? Yes or no? Oh, that's interesting. Well, the way you ask that, I'm going to have to say yes, but you wouldn't think so. Tell me. You wouldn't think of it. But it does, yeah. So a new study, and I just saw this today. I was incredible.

I didn't realize it. But so John Hopkins did a study of 47 international studies and included more than 280,000 cases of colorectal cancer, excuse me, and 14,000 cases of pre-cancerous colon polyps. And a finding suggests that the taller the individual is the higher percentile they had a risk of this. That is amazing. But listen to this. So this is the crazy part. So men, six feet one and older, taller. I'm looking at that.

Yeah, women, five foot eight inches and tall and taller. You don't have anything to worry about today. Yeah, I do, though. Hellfire. 14% increased risk of colon cancer. Wow. Yeah, and a 6% increased risk of adenomas. Yep.

Which are, you know. The pre-cancer's polyps. Yep. Okay, yeah. Adnomas are, it's just, at that point, they're benign tumor derived of glandular tissue though okay and there's tons of glandular tissue in the colon yeah yeah yeah so wow okay so yeah they said eleanor zhao with Johns Hopkins uh had a potential explanation for this link is that adult height correlates with body organ size okay that makes sense yes say more of it available

more active proliferation and organs of taller people could increase the possibility of mutations leading to malignant transformation so that is interesting someone who is larger just has body habit. It's not just fatter, but I mean, just a larger person is going to have a larger colon. A larger colon means more cells dividing, and more cells dividing means more risk for cancer. So that's amazing.

I never thought about that. May I mention one thing to that, too, and she mentions in here that I'm talking about taller athletes. Yes. And the other thing about people with Marfans, too. Well, yeah, and Marfans. But the thing about taller athletes, taller athlete, if they are athletes, college athletes, professional athletes, you know what I see a lot of, and did it myself was a lot of anti-inflammatories, Advils, and stuff while you're playing.

And that actually can help prevent colon cancer, right? No, I don't know. That's why I was asking you. I don't know. Because you see, sometimes you'll see people that have taken way too many inseds going to Renoville. right right and have and I didn't know if that was if that would no okay so yeah I know it's a different mechanism but if you go beyond the pale this stuff yeah you can cause uh renal insufficiency and GI bleeding right non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs and that would be um aspirin advil

which is ibuprofen and napresin which is an approximate but um you know a large number of you know just looking at epidemiological studies show that non-stroyal anti-inflammatory drugs reduce the risk of colorectal cancer. And I know a lot of people who are on or who have this condition called familial polyposis, these are people that have to have a colonoscopy every year. Wow. Because they have, their colon is nothing but polyps. And they'll often put them on an anti-inflammatory medication.

I have a friend who just takes aspirin every day, and his gastroenterologist told him to do that because he had this, and it might help reduce his risk of developing colon cancer. The use of aspirin for five years reduces the incidence and mortality due to colorectal cancer by 30 to 40% after 20 years of follow-up. Hmm. Oh, no, wait.

Wrong button. Wrong button. There we go. Sorry, they're right next to each other. That's amazing, isn't it? In the wild, yep. So it would be great. Well, then why don't we just put it in the water?

Well, there's some risk to taking aspirin every day as well. For me, my doc is going between putting me back on aspirin and taking me off aspirin. Every week, it seems like a new study comes out. Well, for people over the age of 65, we take aspirin every day. day they have an increased risk of stroke and and GI bleeding and that outweighs the decrease in in mortality that they might find in a my you know myocardial infarction or a heart infection or heart heart heart attack sorry I don't and so they go back and forth on that one it's because otherwise I would just take it all the time you know yeah well I can't

40% decrease that's a big deal it is the choose deal so be short and take aspirin. Yeah, yeah, but not an empty stomach. Right. Well, and obviously, at your physician or health care providers' be asked, don't do it because we're just talking in general terms. Yes. Not making any long-term recommendations for anybody.

No. No. Hey, you wanted to get to that question that Mick K.M. had for us two weeks ago that I promised him we would get to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is it? Do we have an answer for him? No, I don't, but I'm going to ask you. Oh, Jesus.

Okay. You're putting me on the spot. No, it's okay. No, Mick asked this question two weeks ago, and I meant to get to it, and I never did. But he was asking, nicotine is considered to be the addictive ingredient in cigarettes. That's correct. But flavonoids released while burning tobacco have an M-A-O-I effect. How much could they contribute to smoking addiction?

Wow. That's a hell of a question, isn't it? Well, yeah. I mean, okay, so let's talk about other things that have flabinoids in them. These are polyphenolic. So these are phenols are these sort of ring-like structures. And these are polyphenolics, so there's, you know, bunches of them together. Plant compounds.

And they occur in fruits, vegetables, chocolate, wine, stuff like that. Right, right. And, you know, they, Linus Pauling is. real big on flavanoids. The Linus Pauling Institute, you can go there. It's at Oregon State University. They have a whole thing on micronutrients, and they are pushing, let me see what they say.

Biologic effects of flavonoids appear to be related to their ability to modulate a number of cell signaling cascades, and they've been showed to exhibit anti-inflammatory, anti-thrombogenic, so that's anti-bloodonts, anti-diabetic, anti-cancer and neuroprotective activities through different mechanisms of action. Uh-oh. In vitro.

Oh. Uh-oh. Our audience knows that that means in the test tube. But anyway, they've been doing some randomized controlled trials, and they think that, you know, flavin three-alls may be beneficial for cardiovascular health. So I don't know, I've not seen flavonoids as a vector or, sorry, as a mediator of addiction. So I don't have an answer for him on that. Let's look up flavonoids and addiction. Okay.

answers rather than just coming up with the answer and sounding like, you know, genius. Well, while you're doing that, you want to talk a little bit more about smoking addiction and the, yeah, absolutely. So, you know, not only is it just certainly the chemical effect, which Dr. Steve can talk, speak to in a minute, but a lot of it's behavioral, you know, and when I used to, you know, Dr. Steve just smoked. Did you have a smoke taste? Yes.

Oh, God, did she? Did you smoke like a freight train? I mean, I didn't, I don't, I never got up to as much as Steve was smoking when he smoked, but yeah, I did smoke. Yeah. And I quit September 14th, 2001. About the time of you. It was right after 9-11.

Right after 9-11 and on my birthday. So, thank you. Yeah, that's pretty cool. And, of course, I dip Copenhagen like I was going out of style for years. But, you know, a lot of the cigarette, the smoking addiction to cigarettes and chewing tobacco, for sure, is just habitual. It's not even, it's not the chemicals as much as the habituation. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's right.

Bolt, it's a three, it's a three-legged stool, as you say. It's a three-legged stool. Yeah, I used to say it was like a gig, like you go frog gigging, use a three, a trident. Because then the frog can't wriggle off of it. It's horrible. Oh, gross. No, it was awful. Best forward.

I never, I never, I never, listen, my dad took me. I was a kid and you have the flashlight. Yeah, the silence of the frogs. It was awful. Oh, my God. And I never missed. and never ever missed and that I felt really bad about it

I still feel bad about it and my dad would cut their legs off and then just throw them back in the water and these poor frogs would be sitting there and they're still alive and they can't do anything all they can do is just float there with their arms up going what happened why is this happening to me

it was awful it was awful that's terrible no I know I wish my dad was still around that's something I would fuss at him about It was very traumatic, and the fact that I never missed made it worse because they didn't have a chance. No.

Anyway. Did I, Steve? Yeah. So, but it is three-prong. There's the physical addiction. There's the habituation and the psychological, you know, addiction. And those last two are the hardest ones. You can get over.

I would be six weeks into it. My weakness was always six weeks and six months. So at six weeks. I'd be over the physical addiction, and I'd be working pretty hard on the habit, but the psychological aspect was still there. And then my ex-wife, who was my wife at the time, pissed me off. And then I'd, you know, probably because I found out that, you know, I found the $1,200 phone bill. And then I'd go, well, by God, I'll show her. I'm going to go smoke a cigarette.

And then I'd go smoke. And it's like, I'm not showing her anything. I'm showing her how weak I am It was just the lizard part of my brain Wanted me to smoke And then six months I would go, I've got this thing licked I could just have one

And so I'd bum one off of somebody And I'd be smoking again You know, I was watching one of my movies And they smoked the whole time Yesterday And it made me want one so bad Really? And it's been...

I never want one. I mean, I don't... It's been a long... long time. When I quit, one of the things I told myself was that if I got a terminal illness that I would smoke again, because at that point, who gives a shit, right? But it's been so long now that I really feel like if I got a terminal illness, I wouldn't smoke.

I just don't have any desire anymore. I do dream about it, though. Do you ever dream about it? All the time. All the time, you do. Okay. I dream about about once every three months. and I'll have a dream where I'm just smoking.

And then I'll think to myself, in the dream, wait a minute, you dumbass, you don't smoke anymore. What are you doing? Now I'm going to have to quit again. And I wake up in a cold sweat going, thank God. And that's funny. Yeah. And I've got a little bit more of a clarification on his question.

He was just asking. Well, and I have something on flavonoids and addiction. Oh, okay, cool. He was just talking about how nicotine replacement doesn't seem to help him with his addiction. which is, well, I'm glad we're talking about the. Maybe flavonoid addiction or flavonoid supplementation would help. That would be an interesting study, wouldn't it? Yes, and so, so let's ask Kim, how do we, how would we test something like that?

That would be a very easy, so he, who is it in our room? Mick, Mick K.M. Mick K.m. in the, in the waiting room. Yeah. So, he has put forth a hypothesis. And the hypothesis is that nicotine replacement therapy by itself may not be as effective due to the action of flavonoids on the human body when smoking. So one way to test that would be, you know, the good old double-blind placebo-controlled study, give people nicotine patch, and then some people get a placebo,

and some of them get some flavonoids oral supplement. buy them at Amazon. And you've got to pick the right one. And then your end point would be successful, you know, lack of recidivism over a six-month period. And you've got to have a large enough group. And then at the end of it, you find out how many people went back to smoking, how many people stayed off, and which ones were on the flavonoid supplementation, which ones

weren't, were on the placebo. And if there's a statistically significant difference, well, then your hypothesis is, has been reinforced right on you know yeah so yeah that's interesting there is some some research on flavonoids in in addiction and it has to do with the same receptor that valium and Xanax and the rest of those attached to so there are these GABA gamma amino butyric acid receptors don't worry about it you hear of GABA and Benz Diasopines bind to these sites, and there are flavonoids that also bind to these same sites. So if they both bind to the same site, it follows that there may be some addictive potential of that molecule.

It might help to explain some of the calm. People think that when they smoke, it calms them down. I always felt it was like you were just going through a mini withdrawal, and it just kind of ended that. but, you know, flavonoids in tobacco. Now, the next thing we've got to go is he's sort of begging the question in the sense that his question has the answer in it already, that I don't know that tobacco smoke has a lot of flavonoids. I'm not aware of that.

That's the next thing I've got to go look at to see if that part of his hypothesis even makes sense. Maybe one of us can look at them. And I'll look it up yet. He was asking about the M-A-O-I's too, but I don't. I've never heard of an M.A.O. I have not either. And if it was truly an M.A.O. I affect, it's a monoamine oxidized inhibitor. Those are an old, old school version of, you know, class of antidepressants. And they had so many really serious adverse effects that they're very rarely written anymore. The adverse effects most of the time had to do with drug interactions. So interactions with cheese, interactions with wine, certain very commonly administered IV medications, stuff like that. So I'm looking up flavonoids and tobacco smoke. Who is this Mick guy?

He's making me do a lot of work here. Well, no, he's making us work today. All right. Yeah, it just says here, flavonoids are linked to lung cancer protection among smokers. So maybe they need to put flavonoids in tobacco smoke, but I'm not seeing. a whole lot of that in here. But I'm not saying that there isn't. Oh, here we go.

Yeah, tobacco, certain nicotiana tobacco crops grown for smoke products as a source of bioactive compounds, including phenols and flavonoids. So there is some in there. So he was right. Interesting. Probably not enough to protect you from cancer, though. But if you take an oral supplement, it looks like at least one study thought that there was something to it. All right.

You got anything else? I've got one more, one more. Yeah, go for it. This is one of those kinds of shows. It's fine. Well, and this is... We're just talking. This is pretty good.

Okay. And I've got one for Dr. Steve. I had never heard of this diagnosis before. Okay. A.R. F-I-D. A-R-F-I-D. Yeah. Avoidant restrictive food intake disorder.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd never heard of that. That's picky eaters. Very picky. So this British gal, 25 years. old has not eaten a fruit or vegetable in 22 years yeah 22 years I know all kinds of people she lives on chicken nuggets and and french fries yeah and that's it yeah I can't even she she turned down $1,300 from her uncle to eat a single pea oh come on that's what it says

right here they interviewed her that's crazy that's the hell for $1,300 I think I choked down yeah and a lot of these kids are underweight but it's because they're malnourished and if you have one of these kids, you have to figure out some way to get some of these nutrients into them because, you know, chicken nuggets highly processed, protein, they got some stuff in them. But, and then French fries, you know, the skin is taken off so you lose a lot of the nutrients from that. And then what was she drinking? Did it say what she drank?

No, just that she thinks it all started when she was three years old was forced to eat mashed potatoes and she didn't like it and has gone downhill from then yeah don't for it we really tried not to force our kids to eat stuff and that when they were young they ate everything you remember that and then all of a sudden they go to school and their friends go ooh vegetables you gross and then all of a sudden then they wouldn't eat vegetables anymore yeah it's pizza every night Beck and Liam used to eat sog paneer at the Indian place yeah like it was going out of style. Oh, that sounds good.

And then they started going to school, and their friends started saying, oh, no, you know, spinach is gross. And then that was it. I really feel like some of that was pure pressure. No, it was, I feel like that, too. Absolutely. Damn, kids. There was no other reason for it.

Yeah. They loved it. Now, let's talk about Tacey has avoidant, restricted food issues with asparagus. But that's just asparagus. Well, tell us why. You'd love asparagus. I already have a weight problem. I don't need another food group.

Do you understand what I'm saying? Well, tell the listeners why you hate asparagus, which is it's the same reason I should hate asparagus. Because my mother fed us canned asparagus growing up. Have you ever seen that shit? It looks awful. And made me eat it. It's just mush. And it's bright, fluorescent green.

It doesn't look like asparagus. Why would anybody do that? And then I went and threw it up and she did the same thing with chicken. liver's which in retrospect come on yeah and then I'd go throw it up yeah chicken livers taste to me like I imagine a dry turd would taste agreed yeah I'm not a fan I tried one bite a one one time of years ago and it was awful I was at a party once and they had here I saw these bacon wrapped it looked like beef Italian sort of things, you know, beef tips.

And I popped one in my mouth and it was fucking liver. Now, who has that at a party in a chafing dish? Chunks of liver wrapped in bacon. That's unbelievable. I'm just going to let that sit there for a second. Just think about that. You're doing that to your friends. Was it a highfalutin party?

It was a very highfalutin party. That made it even worse. You should have good things. Exactly. That's awful. oh no yeah that's the only time i put something in my mouth in a party and i didn't you know i spit it out into a napkin and then i think i put it in like a planter so the party was high flute and i wasn't well taught him a lesson when they found that's right my god i'll teach you

feeding me liver oh my goodness it's not wild yeah but uh yeah my mom made me eat canned asparagus too so that's something that tacy and i can relate to with each other huh but i like i like fresh asparagus now i love it i love fresh asparagus now i love it i'll eat it all day long but uh you know and it is true taste it cooked asparagus canned asparagus two completely different things they're just different but i'm not trying to convince you to eat it i've given up on that you know decades ago you love it just eat it yeah i don't do that that's not me That's not her steve voice. No.

All right. Yeah, that's a tough one. So our kids, when they became picky, they didn't have ARFID, but they became picky eaters. I started taking spinach, which is very tasteless when you masticated, you know, when you put it in a neutral bullet. Opie gave us a neutral bullet. And I started using the hell out of that, making smoothies for them. or just making spinach puree and putting it in the pizza sauce that I was making. I made their pizzas and stuff to somehow sneak those things in.

And then now, of course, they've got multibitamins that are gummies. What kid didn't going to eat a gummy? You can get that stuff in them and get some fiber in them and just hold on and do the best you can't. Our kids have come around to being a little more adventurous and they're eating. And, you know, Beck will mostly eat anything. And Liam's still a little more restricted in his diet. But if I present vegetables to him, he'll eat them. I don't think he ever chooses to eat them.

Hey, Kim, Kim Chickens is talking about frog. I always mispronounced it. Frogwa. Yeah, foie gras. I always mispronting. You know, I've never got it. The way that they make it, I'm not a big pita type, but it's disgusting. They take the geese and they shove a funnel down their throat.

and then just stuff them full of corn so that they get fatty liver. Well, yeah, they actually get fatty liver, and then when they just eat their liver on crackers. That's almost as bad as, you know, taking a frog and whacking up us to your legs. Dude, I'm not defending that. There's no part of me defends that. It was awful. It's a horrible traumatic memory for me. But it is.

Yeah, it's just as bad. But why not just go get a turd and then put it on a gracker? I just don't understand it. It's the same consistency, and probably the flavor is similar. Well, and stercobelanogen, which makes stool brown comes from the liver. Bile comes from the liver. All those things that make shit what it is come from the liver, except for the food you eat and the bacteria in your stomach and your colon.

Oh, my word. Isn't that great? So you're eating, ugh, anyway. Stop eating liver. It's disgusting. It is gross. Organ meat. I mean, if I'm starving, yeah.

Sure. I'll eat it. Yeah. I would never make it as a judge on like Iron Chef or something when they have like. No. Oh, the secret ingredient. She liver. She brain.

No, thank you. I'll be taking some of that asparagus out of the can over there, please. Human scrotums. Yes. Human scrotums. That would be a fun one. Oh. Okay.

So we just wasted an hour. You'll never get this hour back. Sorry, everybody. Sorry. Maybe there was something interesting in there. But I had a bad day, and that's just what, now I have to make everybody suffer. Oh, but before we go, Kim Chickens had a question. She wanted to know what our stand is on functional medicine.

So what do you think, Dr. Scott? Are you familiar with functional medicine? I am. I think functional medicine can be very good if used appropriately. Okay. It's functional. It's fine. It's defined.

Now, this is just a Wikipedia definition, so who knows was in there editing it, but it shows quite somebody's bias. It says functional medicine is a form of alternative medicine that encompasses a number of unproven and disproven methods and treatments. Right. Its proponents claim that it focuses on root causes of diseases based on interactions between the environment and the gastrointestinal endocrine and immune systems to develop individualized treatment plans. It's been described as pseudoscience, quackery, and in its essence, a rebranding of complementary and alternative medicine. So, listen, if it's a rebranding of complementary medicine, I don't have a whole lot of problem

with it as long as you stay in your lane. It's when people start making absurd and insane claims that I have a problem with it. Dr. Scott practices, I mean, integrative medicine, or you could, do you ever use the complimentary term, the C word? I do, yeah. Yeah. So, Dr. Scott's practice complements what we do and we complement what he does. And if I have a patient who can't, just doesn't improve with what Western medicine has to offer, I'll often send them to Dr. Scott. And as I've said many, many times on this show, if I don't have a.

a diagnosis for them, he will have one. It might be, you know, they've got Malaline Chi or whatever, but sometimes people just want to have a name for what they've got. Yeah. And when they do, they know they're not nuts.

And, you know, people, for the most part, just want to be recognized as human beings and they want their problems heard and addressed. That guy in the mountains of you know the South Pacific that's the medicine man that that shakes palm fronds over them is

fulfilling the same role that I fulfill if I were goofy enough to give somebody an antibiotic for a virus you know and that happens all the time all the time so and people want something for it so if if that's how you're defining this I'm okay with it if you want to fiddle with the definitions i don't have a problem but true complimentary medicine i don't have an issue with again as long as you stay in your lane we used to have a chiropractor on this show and she's sadly no longer with us and we loved her very much but dr k was it was was a very good chiropractor and she knew that if she started giving people coffee animals saying she was going to cure their cancer that she'd be pilloried for it now

there are some places where you can get away with that and she she um understood that all of us working together is way better than having people saying, well, those people don't know anything and they're no good because you'll get the naturopaths doing that, you'll get some of the functional medicine people doing that, and you'll get some alopaths doing that as well. And I'm not one of those kinds of alopaths, but I do want, if you're going to make a claim for curing something, you better have some data to back you up. because I hold alipaths to the same standard.

Yep. Oh, yeah, sure. If you're making any kind of statement, you better be to back them up. Yeah. But so there's this guy, David Gorski, and I'm sure if Kim is a fan of functional medicine, she'll hate his guts.

But this guy has written that the vagueness of functional medicine is a deliberative tactic that makes it impossible to challenge. Mm-hmm. You know, but that in general it's practice. centers on unnecessary and expensive testing procedures performed in the name of, quote, unquote, holistic health care. So, look, do what you want to do, but just demand that they should at least be able to give you statistics on their outcomes before you spend a whole lot of money on it. And insurance won't pay for a lot of this stuff. No.

You know, so anyway. No. Okay. And there's no, look, if you're doing functional medicine out there, God bless you, just do it. Do a very job. Just tell the truth. That's the biggest thing. Okay, so, oh, one last thing.

In 2014, the American Academy of Family Physicians withdrew granting course credits for functional medicine courses, having identified some of its treatments as harmful and dangerous. Wow. In 2018, it partly lifted the ban. Yeah, the Academy of Family Physicians usually reasonably open to things like acupuncture and stuff like that. They're okay with it. And as a matter of fact, the president of the American Academy of Family Physicians

was quite the alternative medicine proponent and you and I both know I'm so you know so the academy itself are pretty liberal on this stuff so when they go this shit's dangerous they're not screwing around it says 2018 currently lifted the ban but only to allow teaching an overview of functional medicine not to teach its practice all right on

All right. There are centers for functional medicine at Cleveland Clinic and also at GW. So, you know, if you're interested in that, go there. All right. At least if something goes wrong, they've got people at both of those places that can come rescue you. Anyway, thanks always go to Dr. Scott. Thanks to Tacey. I don't know what camera I've had up this whole time.

I completely forgot about the cameras. Oh, well. Thanks, Tacey. You can. Yay. It was good to see you, and I will see you again in five minutes, and then the rest of the day tomorrow and the day after that, and hopefully the day after that.

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