Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 498 - The Incredible Tumescence of Being

Episode Date: March 25, 2022

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we're having fun over there that's fun I look forward to that I mean I look forward to this too but I'm really enjoying that did you catch that? No I do I do I know it's Scott can go fuck himself and I didn't want to say that

but you're out uh you're out he's gone he gone bye felicia have you seen that thing where that woman is brushing that that dog's teeth and that kid's going what the hell

what the hell have you seen that's hilarious Scott I'll show it to you you got to just Google it I don't know what you would Google person what the hell brushing dog teeth that's a crazy thing I mean this This is an audio show, so I'm stupid to talk about it. Anybody, it's just the...

Henry and Penny the Frenches. Okay. Check that out. And this little kid going, what the hell? And the mother is telling him to stop saying that while she's brushing the dog's teeth, and he just keeps going, what the hell? Anyway. All right.

That's funny. All right. And don't forget Dr. Scott's website at simplyherbils.net. Simplyherbils.net. And I guess you're selling, you're actually selling things again. Selling things again, we have, we have things to sell again. Good. Can you get a little closer to your mic so the people can understand them?

Nasal spray, especially this time of your sinus allergies. Yeah, it's got peppermint oil, CBD, what the hell, it's got everything in there. Got everything in there. Anything you need, make you big and strong. You got all right. Air on your chest. All right, well, good deal. All right, man.

Well, hello, Tacey. How are you today? I'm fine. How's retirement? Oh. It's exhausting. You know, I know now why people say, I don't know how I ever worked. I'm so busy doing nothing that I don't have time for all these little other things that people have to do.

Yeah. I mean, I had to crunch a bunch of data today for a meeting that I have tomorrow. I got like five spreadsheets, had to do pivot tables and make charts and do all this stuff. and I had to interview a new candidate, then I had to do a podcast for one of our professional organizations, and I had another meeting, and I see Tacey, and she's running around, and she's the one that's exhausted.

But I understand it. You've got tons of stuff to do. Actually, I don't. I'm looking forward to being exhausted like that. Yes. Just, you know. You'll take that challenge. with Dr. Steve.

I will take that challenge. I got to finish 90-day fiancé. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, here you know. That's right. You've accomplished something my art now, Tice. What else?

Okay. So, by the way, speaking of 90-day fiancé, you are going to be on our Patreon show with Mr. James Norton. And you two are going to talk about 90-day fiancé. Okay. No, you know that. Yes. Yes.

So, anyhow, I'm just putting it out there as a plug. But, I mean, so the season's almost over. When is he going to do it? Are we going to talk about the new season? No, well, you'll talk about the season that just happened and what a bunch of weirdos and idiots they all are. I'm telling you guys, if you don't watch the show, you just must. We don't know we're missing. I call it 90-day shit show.

It's so awesome. Because it is. It's just a shit show. And I'm like, there are normal people out there that do this. And then I thought, well, why would you make a TV show about normal people doing it? You're going to find the most pathologic situation that you can find. And that's what they do. And that's what makes it fun for people.

It's just a very slow-moving train wreck. How much of those shows do you think is actually scripted where they're, or how much of, I mean, most of it do you think is just kind of them? They're real people. I mean, I think, I swear sometimes I think that they create some situations, but the people are real. Okay. I think. What do you think, Taze? I think so.

You couldn't make some of this stuff up. But they do. I think they're say, well, let's give it a little more drama. why don't you ask for, say, a pre-nup or something like that. Or it doesn't matter. Give your Peruvian fiancé a toothbrush for Christmas. See how that goes. Here's your Christmas present.

Because that happened. Literally, and I guess the Peruvian thought that the toothbrush did that. Well, yeah. She threw it away, but then she kept it. She threw it outside because he sent pictures, nudie pictures to his ex-girlfriend. Of her, because he's like, hot. Ha, ha, ha, ha, look who I'm with now. Look how hot she is.

Can you imagine? No, it just doesn't, and he won't take his head off because he's bald, except for this patch in the back of, I mean, I could just go on and on, yeah. And this one guy breaks up with this girl, and he starts running down the street. Like, where is he going? Anywhere other than here is around. He just turns around and starts running. That's like my sister.

Oh, this is the horrible story. I don't know if I should tell it. Yes, Stella. Tell it. It's too late. You've already started. You can embellish. Well, I already said it was her, but it's my dad's funeral.

My sister was known for drama a little bit. And, I mean, aren't we all? I'll say that, just in case you have a few years. Yes, we all are. Yes, of course. So it's my dad's funeral. Everybody got along. That's not always true in our family.

And it was, you know, and my brother said, or no, no, no, no, no, that's not right. So after everything was over, we're all just sort of gathered around. My sister says, hey, we're going to grill out hot dogs, which was different than what my brother told me they were going to. And I was like, and she said, why don't she stay? And I'm like, hell no. I'm leaving while everybody is getting along. Yeah. Okay.

And it's apparently, and this is my niece told me this later. Holly, who's probably my best friend, and she was raised as my sister. She was closer in age than my sister and I were. And we were raised together, but so as soon as I left, my brother and my sister started arguing because he wanted to go to this restaurant, and she wanted to cook out hot dogs, right? So they get in this big argument, and they end up going to the restaurant, but they The evening ends with my brother and my brother-in-law in the car going down the street, in the middle of the street going like two miles an hour, behind my sister going, Martha, Martha, get in the car,

behind my sister who's going to walk home to Arkansas. So when you talk about this person running down the street, where are they going? Where was she going? She was in North Carolina, and now she's going to, she, by God, I'm walking home. And she lived in Little Rock, Arkansas. So anyway, you know, we do these things. And then you start, it's just like throwing a plate of spaghetti against the wall in anger. If you've ever done that, you only will do it once unless you're a complete maniac.

Because then it's like, oh, shit, that felt good for a quarter of a second. Now I've got to clean this up. Yep. And repaint the wall. Unless you're Pauli from, was it Paul? from the godfather now clean it up so yeah i think bolly anyway memories yes what great memory i'm going to walk home dark oh my word all right this is a medical show let's do medicine we're talking about mental health issues right now yep anyway all right what do you got dr scott

well you know that that almost kind of ties into our yeah i should do theme songs for each of these section. We should have a theme song for bullshitting for nine minutes at the beginning. Okay. And then a theme for Dr. Scott's bullshit topics and then a theme for, you know, when we... Number one thing. Don't take advice

from some of the radio. We have that. Well, that's what Carl does. We can do that. And, you know, I listen to his show and it's so professional because he's got, each segment has its own little musical theme thing. I'm just too lazy and not creative enough to do that. You're too busy. That's what it is. Maybe it's a taste. Maybe

Maybe a taste you can put it in her schedule. She can whip some things up. I'm sorry, Steve. There's just no time. Well, Carl has Jenny Jingles. You know, he has a Jingles department. We're talking about who are these podcasts of people who don't know what we're talking about. And I thought, wow, he's got, he has this jingles department and all this stuff that Jenny from the Jingles Department and all these, they have all these jingles.

And then I found out that's his wife when I met them. When I met them in Chicago, I had no idea that Jen from the Jingles Department was his wife. So there you go. So Tacey? Nope. Okay. All right, fair enough. All right, never mind.

Anyway, Scott, what do you got? So a little study we found the other day about the cocoa supplements and multivitaminant out supplements. Yes. So one of our listeners was in this trial and sent us the preliminary results. Oh, wow. Yeah, I would have liked to be an interesting. Thank you for doing that, by the way. Yeah, I would like to have been in this one, hell, studying.

So talk about what it was. Well, so it looks like what they did was a clinical trial with 21,442 men of women across the United States. Investigated whether taking a daily cocoa extract of supplements containing 500 milligrams of cocoa flavonoids a day or a common multivit. And would it influence the developing heart disease, stroke, cancer? So it was an either or it wasn't a. Yeah. Now, that's the way I'm reading. Of course, you know how I read things. Sometimes I don't exactly get it right. But like it's stupid, the stupid study we read in New Zealand, a bunch of idiots. Oh, yeah. No, they're the idiots? Yes. They should have known better. But anyway, so it looks like it's 500 milligrams.

Go back a few shows and you'll know what he's talking about. I hate to have inside the room stuff, but I guess we have to in this case. Dr. Scott completely misread a study that he gets. I did, but the way I read it was much more entertaining. Yep, that's true. Okay. I can't argue with that. So, so results from previous studies had been promising, so they wound up studying the, to determine whether or not a cocoa flavonoid and multivitamin supplements help maintain health. And it's a huge, and it's a huge study.

Yeah. So it was randomized, double-blinded, placebo-controlled testing. Excellent. And so we got a, the flea-fellular. Give yourself a bill. That's scary. From the cocoa. Yeah, sorry.

That's okay. And the multivitamins, and they're just checking with these 21,000. Well, so is that a Wake Forest? Yeah, it looks like a pretty legit study. No, yeah. I mean, Wake Forest is a real place. Oh, yeah. No, Wake Forest is a wonderful.

Yep. And it took over, let's see, three and a half years of treatment and follow-up. These interventions have already shown favorable results and are well-tolerated and safe. So, as you and I have talked about a thousand times, the key is, you're probably not going to get hurt from taking these things. Yeah, that's pretty important. That's true. That's true. But we've always wondered, is there any benefit to taking multivitamins?

And, you know, for the longest time, people say there's really no benefit. Right. Unless you've got a vitamin deficiency. Right on. To take a multivitem. What are you doing? You're pissing out what you don't need and the stuff that's fat soluble. You've got plenty of it.

but so this is really interesting so it's let me make sure it's the same one that you're looking at is cosmos mind right correct yeah so they had uh 2,000 adults age 65 and over that did not have dementia and they underwent some sort of cognitive testing at baseline so and then they did it every year for three years and so the mean age at baseline was 73 years old and about 40% of them were men that's because there aren't that many men left over by the age, yeah. And so they were balanced, they tried to balance them with respect to cardiovascular history, diabetes, depression, you've got to do that. You know, if you have a preponderance of something in one group over the other, then somebody could just point to that and say, well, that might be the reason. Then you've got to do another study. So they balanced them pretty well. And they got 77% response rate through the three years. So that's really good.

And they said that the primary endpoint, we've talked about this, Dr. Scott, when you're studying Viagra and you're studying it for blood pressure control. And then all the guys start saying, I mean, got these raging boners. You can't get it approved by the FDA for raging boners on that study because that wasn't your endpoint right so you have to then go do another study that just looks at um boner production and then and then you can uh you as a side effect might be low blood pressure you know you got to look at that right so anyway so i said the primary endpoint was the effect of cocoa extract versus placebo on this global cognitive function composite score that was a question

I had earlier was, how are they determining this? So this is a validated instrument that looks at disorder overall brain health. I'd like to take that. I wonder how mine is. I think mine probably sucks. You need more chocolate, I guarantee you that. Yeah. And then the secondary outcome was the effect of multivitamin versus placebo on global cognitive

function. And they did this graph of change over time. They showed no effect of the cocoa on global cognitive function. but it was a completely different story for the multivitamin, which is why I'm, I mean, I'm going to start taking a multivitamin again. The graph showed the line separated for global cognitive function composite score, and it was statistically significant. So they saw a positive effect of multivitamins in the active group relative to placebo,

peaking at two years and then remaining stable over time. This is actually kind of a big deal. I mean, you know, multivitamin industries is huge. I mean, you go to any CVS or anything. There's multivitamins all over everywhere. But people who look into this think, you know, I'm taking them, but I'm really doing anything for myself. And now you can say, yeah, if you're over 65 at least,

with a, you know, in a mean age of 73, and you're taking multivitamin every day, you may maintain cognitive function, and at least as measured by this global cognitive function scale over time. So I think that's a big deal. I've never seen anything like this. Now, let me also say that I have another study that says, and this is from 2013, taking a daily multivitamin

was not associated with cognitive benefits over a 12-year treatment period. Now, this is male doctors age 65 or older in this study where this was kind of a secondary end point. And it was published in the anals of internal medicine. Oh, sorry, annals of internal medicine. And it says these data do not provide support for the use of multivitamin supplements in the prevention of cognitive decline. So this is the kind of shit. Now, that is that drives people crazy because if you really want to, if you give easy, equal weight to these you go well it's 50 what it's not really the the second study was really a

better study than this this was they were just following these doctors and they followed all kinds of parameters and do you take a multivitamin every day yes i do you know then was their cognitive decline this is a double blind placebo controlled randomized trial that followed people over three years that is much stronger evidence than this old thing and so you can't say that it's well I've got one study says yes one study says no you got to look at the value of the studies and we we cherry pick stuff and when I say we I mean they is cherry pick stuff all the time right for example if you have let's say you have something a drug but it's a placebo you know it's a placebo you're you know you just threw some crap together and then you start collecting

testimonials so you have you three you give out a thousand bottles of this stuff and you got a five percent placebo you know a benefit right you know that five percent of people who take it will get perceive a benefit even though there's no nothing that we can prove we call that the placebo effect so you'll have 50 people oh yeah and they they write in hey this stuff's good you got 950 people saying this stuff's horseshit yeah well don't publish those just publish the 50 And you've got page after page after page on your website of positive testimonies. And they're real testimonies. You're not making them up.

Yep. You know, so that kind of cherry picking, it's the same thing. If you have 10% of people who believe one thing and 90% of people who believe another thing. And this is, we see this in the media all the time. They'll have one person from this group and one from the other. And the one from the 10% group is overrepresented. You know, but you're putting them together. They're like, oh, well, you know, it's 50-50 and it's not.

So we see this in science as well, and there will be multivitamin deniers who will bring up this 2013 study, but it's not as powerful as study. So that's interesting. That's a good one, Scott. Well, you know, and Dr. Sieve, it's kind of funny because I found right after that, I found that one. I found that one. There was another study on flavonoids helping fend off forgetfulness.

And it's a very similar study, but they're talking about up to, again, again, Again, a pretty big study where they had a bunch of 77,000 middle-aged men and women collected over 20 years. And the bottom line is they showed up to 19 percent showed increases in their memory. Really? As measured by how. It's their report, the report, that this is not a double-blipal. But just to show the eating healthy foods.

And the bottom line is the flavonoids have been shown as good antioxidants that help with vascular health, which is why they think it helps with brain function. I got to see, you know, you know what I got to see. No, I know, I know, but I got to see evidence. I'm just telling you, that's what they said. I'm not saying you're wrong. Yep, yep. And I'm not saying they're right of the butt, but that's what they think.

It helps with the blood vessels. Yeah, these sort of survey studies, as long as people understand, when you survey a bunch of people and I ask them, do you do this, do you do that, and then draw. It is, it's science, but it's very weak evidence, you know. And what it does is, let's just say you had a bunch of, you had a bunch of, people that said I don't know you know when I when I take vitamin D

I you know I was going to say that and then I was like I can't do the boner thing twice so I'll let Scott I was going to say you know that's what I was sort of searching for a different word other than vitamin D causes giant boners joint pain

for example and they say okay when I take my vitamin D I have less joint pain that's really really weak evidence. If you have 300 people say that, that's still 300 anecdotal evidences. But when you start having 300 pieces of anecdotal evidence, it may be enough to cause someone to fund a study to see if there's a real effect there. Because that's where we get some of these ideas from. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I got tagged on Twitter because I had the temerity to say there's 72 studies clinical trials on clinical trials.gov on ivermectin in

COVID-19. Somebody just asked me, is this all horseshit? And I said, no, it's not complete horseshit. There are real people, serious investigators looking at this just to see. Because ivermectin is known to have antiviral properties as well as antiparacetic properties and it is safe and effective for the things it's indicated for and is very well tolerated and it is a human medicine it's trees humans get more ivermectin than horses do i don't know where this narrative came from but anyway my post got tagged on no one could reply to it and it said this is misinformation it's like oh it's misinformation that there are 72 studies clinical trials dot gov by the way not you know clinical trials dot Alex Jones wasn't that oh it pissed me oh it pissed me off oh it was just an algorithm it looks for certain words so I started spelling Ivermectin because listen I've said multiple times I think what happened to Joe Rogan was was awful he his Ivermectin was prescribed to him by his doctor who wrote it off label but gave it to him and then he's you know he just

says i don't know i'm not a doctor you know i don't know anything he says i'm just curious about stuff he does a three hour show every day and then people will take 15 second segments and then pillory him over this and i i didn't like that and but i so i started i started spelling and i and but i've said i would not prescribe it because i don't see the evidence yet that's me i'm i'm more conservative in that regard than some of my colleagues are i people who listen to this know i like to see real evidence statistically significant grade a level evidence before i can really get behind something and um but i don't blame people for investigating it for sure and being interested in it because if we have something that's off the shelf that we could treat some you know a

pandemic with that's great you don't have to start from scratch you know but anyway um i started spelling ivermectin with you know instead of an i an exclamation point and a couple other changes that i made in there um just so i wouldn't get caught by that algorithm again because that's what it was it was just looking for certain words in your tweet and then tagging it and then blocking people from responding to it anyway that kind of pissed me off anyway what else you got Oh, that's it. That's it. Okay, those are good.

Be on the lookout for questions from the waiting room people. By the way, we record Wednesdays at 3.30, you know, between 3.30 and 4 p.m. after I get off work. And you can go to our YouTube channel, and you can participate in the chat room, and we respond. And, you know, we do a podcast after this, and we'll, you know, take your questions from the chat room and stuff. So check it out sometime. Right, very good. Number one thing, don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. All right, thank you, Ronnie B.

I cannot, I cannot disagree with that in the slightest. All right, let's see here. Hey, Dr. Steve, Dr. Scott. How you doing, Tacey? That's great to hear. Oh, wait. I don't really have any questions. I just wanted to thank you for making me sound smart.

I recently talked about hypnipompic sleep paralysis with people, and they assumed I was really. intelligent last weekend i regurgitated what you brought up on the patreon show that's patreon.com slash weird medicine i did not play this about the evolutionary implications of teenagers lashing out at their parents to avoid imbreeding yes and you guys were my go-to source for COVID-19 information and teaching me about MRI vaccines so then i could educate others well so this thanks for making me sound smart. Hey, thanks. That's Darren Parker. He's been around for a while, and has been a participant on Twitter, and I think in the chat room as well, Goodfeller. And I

did not listen to it first. I said, well, if he sent it in, it'll be good. So, sorry about the plug there, but yeah, yeah, check out our Patreon. Anyway, that's just Tacey and me. And we do, we'll have celebrities in from time to time. and we do a thing called the exam room where they just ask us medical questions. And we had Joe de Rosa on, and that became, I was thinking, Joe, it would just be kind of a fun show. And it was fun, but we got into some heavy topics with him about post-COVID PTSD and some other stuff like that. So, yeah, check it out. It was good.

That one, I may put some segments up for public consumption just because they were, it was so outstanding. We've had Bob Kelly on, Mark Norman. As I said, we're going to have little Jimmy Norton in to talk 90-day fiancé with Tacey and some other stuff. So it's fun. Anyway, all right, very good. Let's try this one. Dr. Steve, it's Mike from New York. Hey, Mike.

I hope you guys are all doing well. Yes, sir. Lately, when I walk outside, I've been getting headaches, sore throat, sore jaw into my teeth. It goes away when I go inside. I'm figuring it might be like an allergy, but I take Allegra every day already. Never had an issue like this before. Should I be supplementing the Allegra with something else, like a Zyrtec? What's going on if you have any idea?

Thank you very much. Hey, thanks, Mike. I'll talk a little bit about this. I know, Scott, you'll have some things to say. the first thing taking Allegra and Zyrtec together is like taking Naperson and Motrin together They're basically in the same class

You want to take either or but not both They're both non-drowsy antihistamines And taking two You know taking both of those It would be just like taking two Allegra And going over the maximum dose Maximum dose of Phexophenidine which is Allegra's, I think, 180 milligrams.

So, yeah, don't do that. But I do think that, you know, he goes outside and he's having pressure and then it goes away when he goes inside. So we have talked about this before that there are people who have sunlight or temperature change histamine release. This is caused by mast cell degranulation. I just wanted to sound highfalutin. And what happens is because of these triggers, environmental triggers, they'll get histamine release. And, you know, we just talked, those things are antihistamine. So what does histamine do?

It does everything the opposite of what an antihistamine does. So it will cause your nose to run, and it will cause some enlargement of the engorgement of the tissues of the nose, which if you've got a small opening into your maxillary sinus, that's the one over the teeth. You'll get negative pressure in there, and then that can cause tooth pain. So I've got some ideas what he could do. Dr. Scott, won't you wax eloquent on that. Tacey, you probably have some ideas on this as well. Not really. Okay, fair enough.

Yeah, I'm with you, Dr. Steve. I think for sure, especially when you know. This is what I hear whenever I say something like that to Tacey. You get nothing. You lose. Good day, sir. That's what I hear in my head. I think for sure it sounds like he might benefit from maybe doing a little nasal spray

before he goes outside kind of prophylactically just, you know, and I like personally the flonase if it's an allergy, if your shirt's an allergy, because it'll block it before you go out. You know, I love, you know, my nasal spray, of course. I love just to wash all the crud out of your head and keep the inflammation down. Because honestly, the more inflammation you keep out of your sinuses and your nose, the less pressure you're going to have in your face, the less pressure you're going to have your teeth, then you should do better.

That presumes, of course, that there are allergens. Right. You know, antigens that he's breathing into his nose that's causing this. And if it's environmental, it's a different thing. Oh, sure. Now, I do like the idea, particularly of the steroid fluptychazone nasal spray. Especially if it's that season. Because, and then you've got to take it on and on, on.

It's over the counter just to help prevent that sort of inflammatory response in the nose. I think he should see an allergons. and maybe get on some Monty Luchast. Monty Luchast is a drug. It's sold as singular. And for some people, when it works, it can work wonders for environmental histamine release. And it's a lute, it doesn't matter. It's a leukotriene inhibitor.

It's, you know, I'm giving myself. Can you, like, shut up? Okay, fair enough. I hit the wrong button, but that was actually the right one. and um but it's a non it's it's not a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug but it is anti-inflammatory and it's not a steroid it's in a different class all of its own it there are some adverse effects with it most people can take it and have no effects from it whatsoever the ones that do have problem little kids particularly can if they get put on monoclucast there's a small subsection of

them they'll have behavioral issues and stuff and some of them can be really really severe. So, you know, we don't prescribe it lightly. That's why you can't buy it over the counter. But that might be something. Yeah, and I've, you know, I've got those old Chinese herbs for sinuses I used to give you when you were having new players. They work extremely well. So if you, if there are a bunch of wonderful options. Just explore, explore, and explore. Because some things work for me and they don't work for me. And I think we're all so unique in that way. And have fun with it. And have fun. Enjoy your exploration. It's kind of like your retirement. You should just explore.

Yes. Well, get a Navaj, too. Get a Navaj too. Now, we have a listener, and he goes by, oh, on Reddit, I'm blanking on his name, and he's, he'll, anyway, I'm sorry. I forgot your Reddit name, but he got a Navaj and felt like for the first time his nose was clean and stuff, and it really helped him out. We've had several people since we had Martin Hoke on here. And listen, he is not a sponsor of this show. We don't get anything. They asked me if I wanted to be an ambassador for Navaj.

And I really kind of just let that go. And I didn't really answer them. I didn't say no, but I didn't answer them. Because I want to be able to promote Navaj because it's awesome, not because somebody's giving me free stuff to do it, you know. And I think that takes away some of my integrity. So now, if it was life-changing money and they want them, they want me to, I mean, that's what I got to pay for these Invisalines at some point is one of the reasons I did it was just in case somebody needed a spokes, a spokes model. You can do it, you can do it.

Yeah, okay, all right, all right. But just in case, you know, I could get up there and say, you know, hey, I'm Dr. Steve from weird medicine and Navage is, you know, awesome or whatever. and um but it's uh i don't know where i was going with that but the um dream and big buddy dream and big he's looking at that he's looking at that that that um that sweet up on top of a oh the sky scraper the parker meridian that's right okay another inside the room story but we've told that before the long-term listeners know what we're talking about um all right anyway navage is awesome i don't think it'll help this guy though because I think he has environmental histamine release

and he needs to see someone that will treat that. And I think nasal steroids and maybe Monty Lukast will be the key. Okay, sounds good. Very good. Good luck. All right. Hey, buddy. How are y'all doing?

Hey, good man. How are you? No, I'm not going to do it. But guess what happened to me? What? So I was doing my Navajo the other day. It had been a while, because I hadn't had it. This bitch kicked me out of her house, and she's ruined my life, too.

She's pistol, my password, all my accounts, and change. Oh, anyway, I get off to my life. I digress. As soon as I used it, started to use the little reservoir at the bottom, you know, sucks out your nose. Yeah. Just red, red, red, red, red, red. Uh-oh. Okay, his audio, he was having some problems, so what he's saying is,

And again, this is just a coincidence. I promised you I had no idea. This guy was going to talk about Navaj. It would make sense if I was making money from Navaj for me to play this and go, oh, I didn't know. We get it. All right, all right. All right. Thank you.

Thank you, Tacey. Good job, Tase. Anyway, he was using his Navaj and the reservoir in the bottom was bright red blood. Okay. So now what do you do? The rule is that we've talked about, if there's blood coming out of an orifice, that it shouldn't come out of and by the way that's

every orifice of your body you should get it checked out the first time and then if it's nothing then the next time it happens you can blow it off but you can't blow it off the first time bright red blood coming out of your ass

probably hemorrhoid don't blow it off let somebody look at it make the diagnosis blood coming out of your ear get it checked anywhere any orifice cockhole yes please get it check but also out of your nose. So you want to talk about some of the things that can cause bleeding from the nose?

Oh, yes, sure. Yeah, go. If his nose was already dry. Yes, sir. If his nose is dry. Give yourself a bill. Be a little bit too aggressive and it can scrape the inside of the nose. He starts bleeding.

Or it could be just dry and it was starting to bleed anyway because it's cracked. Yeah, he had some little scabs in there and he just ripped them right off with the Navaj. Yep. But it could be the nasal polyp and some other things. So just get that checked. Now, what they'll do is very simple. First thing, they'll look up your nose with a nasal speculum, see if they can see anything. So a nasal speculum is kind of like, if you've ever had a pap smear.

So half of our audience, well, really, our audience, one-tenth of our audience will know what I'm talking about. If you ever had a pap smear, they have a speculum. And a speculum is just something that'll spread things apart so that you can see. stuff. They have them for the nose, too. You hold it in one hand, you just go in and you open up the nasal passage. And you'll notice the E&T guys have the coolest thing. They have these, they can do it a bunch of different ways. They can wear it on their head. The really cool one is when they have a parabolic mirror with a hole over in the middle of it, and they actually wear it over their eye. Now, when they do that, you go, why in the head?

hell do they have that? Well, they need to be able to see light, you know, see inside dark cavities. So that parabolic mirror worn over the eye will focus light that is coming from behind you. They'll have a light back there. And it will collimate it so that when they look through the hole in the middle, it's like they're shooting light beams out of their eyes. And so anywhere they look will be lit up. Because if you've ever tried to screw something in and you've got a light and it's not quite lined up perfectly, you can't see anything, you know, in some little crevice and something. And so that's what this is, and so they could see straight in there.

So in case you're ever wondering why they wear those weird things. And they will look with the nasal spectrum. If they don't see anything, they're going to go to phase two. And phase two is shooting some cocaine up your nose or benzicane or something to numb. it up and to dilate the tissues in there, you know, so that there's no resistance. And then they'll lube up a little thin fiber optic scope and stick it in your nose. And they will look and look around and they can go all the way down the back of your throat and look down into your vocal cords, which most of the time, that's not where this bleeding

is going to be coming from. But, and anyway. It should be really close to the surface. Yep, yeah. You would think so. particularly because it was the nabage. But they could see, you know, something in the nasal septum, if you had something, if you've been doing a lot of coke

and now you've got a hole that's forming there. I've seen those where you could stick the fiber optic scope in their left nostril and then cut over between the hole in their nasal septum and come out the right side because the hole was so big. And why does that happen? It's because cocaine is a vasoconstrict. it constricts blood vessels when you constrict blood vessels on a mucus membrane for long enough over long enough time it can kill the mucus membrane and then it just eats a whole lot kind of sloughs off yep yep all right questions comments yeah sorry okay you have probably already did a segment on this yeah that done you do something on e for people who viagra and And, yeah, Alice don't work.

Yeah. I know they've mentioned penis pumps before, but, you know, something for diabetic. Thanks, sir. Yeah, I think he said at the end that he's diabetic. Yeah. So that's a real common problem in diabetics. And it's, listen, 50% of people over the age of 45 have some problem with erectile dysfunction. So that's why there's Cialis, Viagra, LaVitra.

on the market but there are other things and those don't work for everybody no so back in the day we used to use yo him bean because that's all we had before viagra came out and i remember tacy do you remember when viagra came out and they used to have viagra ties and viagra clocks and all this stuff and a lot of the drug reps were making extra money by instead of bringing those to the doctor's office they'd put them on youtube or some bulletin board back then probably and you know they weren't they were being very naughty to do that but but you know people were really Viagra it was I mean the cause of jokes and stuff you know for the longest time when it was new because everybody was like who-hoo you know it's so naughty but they so if

those don't work now what do you do? There is a medication called El prostodil and it's a prostate gland and of some sort which means that it has different effects in the body but it can affect blood flow as well and

what the old school way to do it was you would inject it into the base of the penis a lot of people don't want to stick a needle into their dick no I don't no but not unless you have to get an erection maybe maybe in their little needles

yes they're very little yeah oh yeah they're like diabetic yeah 30 gauge little diabetic insulin needles so it's not that bad but still sticking a needle the base of your dick well let's get it on honey and it's like oh yeah okay this is a real turn on so now there is a thing called the muse system

where they take the alprostodil and little pellets and it's got an applicator and you just shove it down the Eurethral meatus, a.k.a. the cockhole. Also not real sexy to do that, but it's less traumatic than sticking a needle in the base of your penis. So that's one thing. So you could ask for that. See a urologist. They're usually the ones that are that are pretty cool with prescribing that stuff. And then there is the venerable penis pump. Penis pump works by the laws of physics, so it will work. and basically it's a vacuum pump it has a

a cock ring on one end and then you have to achieve a good seal so you're gonna you lube it up pretty good so that you can get a good seal you may have to shave and you should be doing that in 2020 anyway and then you get a good right you get a good seal and then you turn the pump on or you do it manually and you put vacuum into this you know, a negative pressure into this tube that's around your penis, that negative pressure will draw blood into the penis itself.

You get a big giant purple erection, and then once you get it to where you want it, you slip the cock ring off to keep it up. And that's very successful for people. And the other thing is insurance will pay for the damn thing. Medicare will pay for that. So you can get that. Dr. Scott, you got any other ideas? What about traditional Chinese medicine?

And I know you are an ethical TCM provider. You don't do rhino horn and all that kind of stuff. No, shoot, no, no. You know, we've got some other old Chinese herbs that can help it. But I'm with you. And this guy's got a little bit more challenge with the diabetes. Yeah. Certainly.

Making sure diabetes is controlled. Make sure all those other factors are controlled, smoking, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Yes, don't smoke. Good God, if you want to have giant, you know, ballpark frank in the microwave erections you cannot smoke cigarettes no you know and i love dr steve making sure that that sometimes they forget to check testosterone yeah if your testosterone levels are a little bit higher it's a little bit easier for those all these drugs to work yeah it's a lot more challenging if if that's a good point you have a really low testosterone you know so you know

if if all these things are are okay i do have some old chinese herbs that can help some but i'm a huge fan of cealis you know viagra whatever whatever whatever whatever works as long as they're healthy right that's my that's my number one concern and a penile implant is sort of the last resort those things and if you're going to do one get you know get a monster hog as far as I'm concerned

you know I saw one one time and it was just it was very disappointing and I don't think I'd be happy with that I guess it'd be it's better than nothing but yeah you know anyway all right so good luck with that but go see a urologist

they're the ones that can really help particularly, you know, if you live in a big city, there may be some providers around you that specialize in erectile dysfunction. Go to one of those. All right. Very good. Hey, Dr. Steve. This is Jeremy in Atlanta. Hey, Jeremy.

Strange thing. I had a physical. I'm a 43-year-old man, and they came back and said that my testosterone is insanely high. It was a thousand. which they said the chart didn't even go up that. Wow. They have got it steroids, which I do not. I take one a day in vitamin, and that's about it.

I don't really work out that much. I'm probably 20 pounds overweight, so I definitely don't have the body of someone who does steroids. But trying to look up why it's so high, I can't find anything. about why your testosterone would be high. So I just wanted to see if you knew if this was something I should be worried about or did I fail to have successfully? Thanks, and I'll love the show.

Okay, man. Well, I've corresponded with him since then because this is one of those. I'm a little disappointed that they just said, well, your testosterone's high. and that's something that he needs to follow up on. Check it again first. Yes.

Thank you. Thank you. You're going to get another one of years. Give yourself a bill. The first thing you do when you get an unexpected answer on a lab test is repeat it. See if it regresses to the mean. It could be maybe it was somebody else's. Maybe somebody screwed something up in the lab.

It happens. So when you get one where they're going, this is insane and you feel fine, just repeat it. and see if it's still insane then we got to look into it so um you know um the the problem is is that he doesn't have any signs or symptoms of high testosterone you can be more aggressive you could be more irritable you could have acne you could have oily skin uh sleep apnea and he said he didn't have an increase in muscle mass which also makes me wonder if the lab test was erroneous He could have a low sperm count as well, but, you know, the thing is, if it's real, it's got to be dealt with because high testosterone can be caused by either testicular or adrenal tumor. That doesn't mean cancer.

They could just be adenomas, and very often they are benign, but they can boost testosterone levels to these crazy levels. And then if you don't treat it, it'll raise your bad cholesterol, and that can lead to cardiovascular decrease in health, maybe even heart attack or stroke, increase your risk of sleep apnea, infertility, all that kind of stuff. And it could just be a genetic predisposition, but I've never seen a genetic predisposition for high testosterone that was that high. That's pretty high. I mean, and it could just be his norm, but that's really high. Yeah, we've talked about how they develop these norms. You just get 1,000 people, and you test them, and then you get the mean and go two standard deviations.

Well, that's the normal. Well, there's going to be some people that are two standard deviations away from the mean that are just normal that were in that pool. It's just part of it. But this one is, there's, when they, he said it was it, didn't he say it was so high that they couldn't even read it or something? Over 1,000. Hey, Dr. Steve.

This is Jeremy. Let's get that again. Yeah. Strange thing. I had a physical. I'm a 43-year-old man, and they came back and said that my testosterone is insanely high. Yeah, that's never good when your doctor calls and says your lab test was insanely high. It was a thousand, which they said the chart didn't even go up that high.

Yeah, that's the thing. When the chart doesn't even go up that high, you got to check it again and then if it's still the chart doesn't go up that high you got to get it taken care of so again figuring out where that's coming from

is a pituitary issue is it an adrenal tissue testicular issue they're going to do some imaging of his brain they're going to do some imaging of his adrenal glands and that can all be done one thing and probably an ultrasound of the testicles

so that would be the workup for this along with some blood work when they figure out where it's coming from they'll take care of it and he'll be done with it and he'll probably feel better now he may feel weird in the beginning when that testosterone drops because it's going to be a precipitous decline in his testosterone it's pretty high octane yeah what i would i would say he may end up with uh having to take testosterone replacement too because if it's adrenal gland it's just like taking testosterone and And, you know, well, we'll see. We'll see.

I wonder if he's having anger issues. He didn't say that he was or wasn't, so I don't know. He didn't seem angry. He just talked about it. He seemed like a nice failure. Less failure. All right, Dr. Scott, what you want to do one more? Let's do one more.

Okay, well, maybe we do. Let's try this one. Let's try this one. Hey, Dr. Steve, one question for you. Yeah. Why could cavemen drink from puddles and rivers and palms? but I can't without getting explosive diarrhea. Oh, that's

a good one. I can answer that. Okay, go ahead. Life expectancy. Yeah. Our ancestors were riddled with parasites. No question about that. Yeah, that was a big part. And we don't have samples of their stool to know that they weren't just running off at the bowels all the time. Matter of fact, if you look at

quote-unquote primitive tribes now that don't interact with our modern world, many of them are eating a diet that's high in seeds and nuts and stuff, and they'll have five, six bowel movements a day. And they're full of parasites, too. A lot of folks are. And your body can acclimate to some of that stuff.

If I go to Hawaii, which this is a real sort of first world problem, and I go to Hawaii and come back, every time I've ever gone, I've gotten diarrhea to the point that I thought that I had Giardia and I'd get tested for it and I didn't have it and all it is is a difference in the bacterial flora that's on their food it doesn't it's not bad it's just different right my body isn't used to it and every time and Liam our son would get it back and tacy didn't and we would eat all the same stuff it wasn't like we were eating weird things or anything like that it's just a difference in the the colonies of bacteria that were on

on the fresh fruits and vegetables in Hawaii, then they are here. And it's a very clean, you know, wonderful place. It's not like, you know, and that's true. Teresta, that's just basically what that is. If you get Teresa going south of the border, it doesn't mean that the food there is, quote, unquote, contaminated.

It just means that there's different bacterial flora in the, in that area than what you're used to at home. Now, when I was in the Dominican Republic once, I got a bad case of the green apple quick step, and it was because I didn't pay attention to the sign next to my sink that said El Agua no es potable. And that means the water is not drinkable. And so some places don't have municipalities that have drinkable water from the tap. And you can use it for other stuff, or you could boil it and drink it. And those do have some contaminants that our GI tracks are not used to.

Yep. You know, so anyway, that's all that is. So I don't know what our, but Scott's right, our ancestor lived. If they were 30, they were lucky. They're really old, yeah. The ancient ancestors. Yeah. All right.

They're probably just shitting all the time. Who knows? All right. We developed a rectal sphincter so that we weren't just dropping stool everywhere so that Sabretooth Tigers couldn't track us by our fecal matter.

How about that? I like it. There you go. Good stuff. Good stuff. All right, let's try this one, and then we'll get out of here. Hello, Dr. Scott. This is Steve Conniff from Murfrewsboro. Hey, man. Hey. I have a question for you.

In the last couple of months, the helmet on my penis has started retracting inside of its chief for no reason. It doesn't happen that much, but it does happen two or three times a week. The only thing I can think of

is I have put on about 10 pounds in the last year, but I'm only 200 and 5'10 and 100 pounds. It's not like I'm, you know, just a lairdess. But then I'm also 61. I didn't know whether this was normal or

whether that's something I should, you know, is my dick going to fall off? No. It's just going to crawl back inside of me. Well, okay. What did he say what, it was what part of his penis was retracting? Well, he's just ahead of it slipping back. Is that what he's saying?

Okay. Yeah, I've got a question for you. Let me run that one again. In the last couple of months, the helmet on my penis has started retracting. Oh, the helmet. I thought he was saying filament. It's like, what, dude? His Roman wore helmet.

You got more helmet. You know, more problems than you're letting on. But, okay, the helmet is retracting. I wonder, I'd love to have him on. Did he have COVID? Because I'm going to tell you, I've heard a COVID dick. Oh, no. And I think I've got a little element of that.

I'm not as, okay, you're going to sneeze. I'm sorry. Okay, that's okay. Go ahead. Sneeze, who cares? Medical show. Okay. Fake.

There's a false alarm. But I think I have a little bit of COVID dick, because I've noticed that when I walk around, I'm not as loose and long and hanging as I was. I've got a more... Here we go. No, I'm just saying. I've noticed it. And I thought, well, you know, I haven't gained or lost any weight.

I'm the same weight that I've been forever since I sort of finished with Noom. And so it's not that. And I've got plenty of testosterone in. me and that isn't it so could it but I did start noticing this after COVID so I would ask him that and if that wasn't it

when we get older you know you have this thing called the cremaster reflex and there's a bunch of muscles in there that want to pull your genitalia into your body to the extent that they can to protect them because the species doesn't

go on if you get gored by a wild boar out in in the you know in the field somewhere when you're a cave person so you want to give you don't want your jungle region just exposed anymore and you have to and I think that that becomes somewhat more active when you get older Tacey you used to catheterize elderly men did you notice that their penises were more retracted than you would think a young person's penis because you saw plenty of those too. I mean, Steve, it's been since 1996. Yeah. So, no, I don't remember. I just remember the, I'm not even going to say it. The ones, well, no, I am going to say. Yes. And, and how sore

they got. Yep. How sore are they got? What do you mean? Because they weren't clean. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you have to clean it? Yes. Okay, good. Well, good for you. Yeah. Well, you know. Yeah. That's first thing she asked me, are you circumcised? And I said, no. And she said, okay, well, then I can date you.

That's not true. Oh, wow. Because of that. That's insane. Okay. You get nothing. You lose. Good day, sir.

Good day. I'm hearing that again. All right. Well, listen, thanks, everybody. If we don't have any other questions, we'll get out of here. Are you ready? Let's do it. Okay.

Well, thanks, everyone. Oh, and sorry, dude, I don't have an answer for you. drop the 10 pounds. If you drop 30, you'll gain an inch. Drop the 10 and see what happens. Call us back. Let us know if you had COVID. Let us know if you've had your testosterone check.

Yeah. Hyderation, et cetera, so of the same. Yeah. Then we'll see. All right. Sorry, I don't have a great, great answer for you on that. We can't forget Rob Sprantz, Bob Kelly, Greg Hughes, Anthony Coombeah, Jim Norton, Travis Teft, That Gould Girl, Lewis Johnson, Paul Offcharski, Chowdy, Tenowee,

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