Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 502 - It's 4/20 Maaaannnnnnn!

Episode Date: April 21, 2022

Dr Steve, Dr Scott, and Tacie discuss: Insomnia Saponification, but then forget to finish it A wide variety of barely touched-on topics due to the host's ADHD The history of "420" Legalization of Cannabis Transfusing DNA Opioids and Testosterone (and Estrogen!) Dr Steve Learns Something Deviated Septum Other stuff Join us for live recordings on https://www.youtube.com/c/DoctorSteve202 YouTube every Wednesday at around 3:30pm EST! Please visit: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) simplyherbals.net (now with CBD nasal spray!) Cameo.com/weirdmedicine (Book your old pal right now while he’s still cheap!) noom.doctorsteve.com (the link still works! Lose weight now before swimsuit season!) chef.doctorsteve.com (green chef, the best of all the meal kits we've tried!) CHECK US OUT ON PATREON!  ALL NEW CONTENT! Robert Kelly, Mark Normand, mystery guests! Stuff you will never hear on the main show ;-) Please consider donating to alliedextract.org, PA Lydia's newest cause. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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that's CBD man is it cannabis man I was hoping I had something for my red eyes but I'm like guess I'm out let's see if Tacey's cameras were I didn't even set it up I think it's working there you are hi Tacey

so we have a party we have a bunch of people in the chat room you know people when we record this thing we record usually at wednesday at around 3 30 and we put it out on twitter follow us at weird medicine or the weird medicine facebook page i'll put an announcement there and you can just click on it and come hang out we got an excellent group of people hanging out i do not see the wrench next to your name though dr scott are you are you able to i don't i don't look like i have the ability he yet to kick people out, but I don't have to kick anybody out, but I don't know what happened there.

Are you logged in under a different thing? It doesn't matter. This is boring to everybody. I do want to say hello to Richard and Sean, and now it sounds like Ramparoom, and I see Loganfield, and I see Kim talking about having palm olive oil in his mouth, I guess. I definitely want you to have the capability to kick people out. Yeah, he had it. I gave it to him, and he fucked it up.

But anyway, do you know the, what, did I do something? I know, I don't know. I probably did. I'm operating on zero sleep, so I'm a little punchy. But do you know why palm olive was called palm olive? Nope. Because it was made, it's not rocket science. It was made from palm oil and olive oil.

You have to see, if I'd have said that and been wrong, you'd have been like, you're dumb fucker. What are you thinking, you idiot? What you do? Just take you some smart guys. I'll try to be funny. But, yeah, it was... This ain't my first rodeo. It was palm oil and olive oil.

And the soap is made through the process of seponification. I'll give myself one of this. Self a bill. That's a good deal. Yeah, saponification is when you take oils, which basically are just hydrocarbons with, you know, and they are hydrophobic. That's why if you put water in olive oil, you know, it'll float to the top, right?

Phobic. Hydrofobic. It's hydrophobic. It's afraid of water. That's right. So you really can't use oil very well to clean things because it's just oily. And you're trying to get oil off of your skin, not put more oil on it. Now, back in ancient Egypt, the way I understand they clean themselves was they mixed olive oil and very fine sand. scrubbed it in, and then they would scrape it off with a knife. Oh, wow. And I bet it made your skin nice and smooth. Nice way to exfoliate.

Let's do it to him. I'd like to. I'll sit on it. You know what? If you'll scrape him. I would absolutely do that. We'll scrape him off. Yeah.

We have to do a full bath, the whole thing with, you know, I mean, the whole body thing. Maybe Chand has got some friend who's, you know, does sort of street massage therapy that would be willing to do the scrape. Probably. We'll have to have some. He went, nair his butt first, because the hair will get on the ad. Listen, he's being funny, but don't nair your ass. Remember, we were going to do the ass crack challenge a million years ago, which you can hear on our Patreon.

You can't hear it anywhere else. It's patreon.com slash weird medicine. And we were going to do three things. We were going to nair our ass crack, and P.A. John was going to do that. And then Dolvesectomy turd shaved his ass crack. And then I got my ass crack waxed. Well, thank God I did some research because I always did. Whenever O&A had something, they would call me, should EROC do the cinnamon challenge?

And I would say, no, it's dangerous. And, of course, he would do it anyway. But at least I would have said my piece. Well, I looked this up, and if you put nair and you're near your rectum, you will burn it up. Don't do that. That stuff is calcium. Calcium hydroxide is a very powerful base. and it will eat up hair follicles

and most skin can tolerate it but not anything near the genitalia. So don't do that. Don't do it. Don't do what Dr. Scott just told you to do. That's right. So anyway, what we found from that, by the way, was what we expected. A double vasectomy turd was a master barber.

And he said if you shave hair, you make a square, surface well like square edges right on to the hair that's that's left behind and it will cause stubble that's what causes stubble so when it grows out a little bit it's like oh yeah yeah yeah and it drives you crazy so if you ever shave your ass crack you will have to shave it for the rest of your life unless you can deal with about a week of stubble in your ass where it feels like there's there's you know, 60-grit sandpaper in your

ass crack, which is very uncomfortable. But if you wax it, this is what happens. You pull out all the hair with the follicle and everything, and it regenerates. When it regenerates, the hair that grows back is tapered.

Because when the follicle starts producing hair after it's been, you know, the hair's been yanked out, it's very small. It's infinitesimally small. It gets larger and larger until until it reaches the circumference of the hair follicle. So it's tapered. And tapered hairs, when they come out,

they don't irritate you the way that squared off ones do that have been shaved. So that was an interesting, fun fact, phenomenon. So if you only want to do it once, let's say you're, I don't know, you're going to be in a movie or something, or you're going to have a colonoscopy, and you don't want people seeing your giant hairy ass crack. You could, on a giant six-foot flat screen, then you could have it waxed and then not do it again, but don't shave it unless you can deal with the stubble, all right? And don't use nair under any circumstances.

Now, I've used nair on my back before because Tacey doesn't like body hair, and so she helped. I wouldn't bother with it. Otherwise, my concept of male virility was Sean Connery in Dr. No. And when he took off, you know, he had that bathing because he had all this hair on his chest. So I thought, well, boy, when I have chest hair, women are really going to dig that. And Tacey's like, ugh. I think it used to be a thing, right? Yeah, yeah.

I think that's what it was. Just like guys used to like. Big boobs. Oh, yeah, it's weird. And now. And now. And I don't know that guys liked that anymore. Oh, no.

Yes, you're right. I don't know that guys liked bushes. It was just that they didn't know that there was any choice to not have that. Well, maybe it's the same with men. Yeah, maybe. You know what I mean? That nobody back in the day shaved their bush, so they had these giant, you know, hairy bushes. And some people still have them.

We went to Dollywood Splash Country. Oh, no. Tell the story. She had a bathing suit, a one-piece bathing suit on, which, by the way, you cannot do. at Dollywood. And her hair was, you're not supposed to wear a bathing suit to Dollywood. What? Dollywood Splash Country.

No, no, it wasn't. Mm-mm. This was in Dollywood. Well, the one I'm thinking of was, okay, all right. I know where you're thinking of. Yeah. And it's Dollywood. Okay.

It was when we were on the ride that goes up and then goes around in the water, and then he splash. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Remember we were waiting in line? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, you are absolutely right. Give yourself a bill? What do you call it? A fanny.

pack on and a bathing suit and her crotch hair ran down to her knees. And it stuck out so far that, you know, like when you put cloth over something that sticks out, how it kind of pokes through. Yeah. Yeah, it was poking through. Oh, my word. Yeah, it wasn't good. It was not an attractive look.

That's a tough look. And it's hard to not look at that. Yeah, how can you not when you've got somebody who's got a beard in just the wrong place? When you're in line with them, you know, for a little bit of time. It's like, you. you would be surprised how. And you're wondering if it smells. And a lot of things go through your head when this happens.

And the bathing suit was way too small for her. And all kinds of, there was just lots of wrong there. Yeah, lots of wrong. So, and we told last week about the lady with the ass crack hair that went down to her knees at hedonism. Oh, yes. Yep. What? Patreon.

Oh, maybe that was Patreon. Yeah, I never heard of this. We didn't witness this, but friends of ours did. They were at hedonism, and this absolutely gorgeous, you know, Charday class, beautiful woman gets out of the pool completely naked. And she had ass crack hair that was plastered to, you know, her legs because she had just gotten out of the pool that went down to her knees. Oh, goodness. So that's not a good luck either. Oh, goodness.

That's what the Brazilian wax is for. Oh. And it makes your fletus sound different, too. I will say that. That's the fun part. that if you get your ass crack waxed and then you pass gas it will sound different

because it's two pieces of skin flapping together rapidly rather than two pieces of skin matted with disgusting ass crack hair. Right? Yep. Yeah. That's horrendous. Good talk. Good. So anyway.

We're off to a rounding start. Where were we? Where were we? Where were we? I don't think we were anywhere, Steve. Were we not? Sorry, Scott. No, no, no. Okay. Oh, God, look at the round. Oh, you know what? It wasn't Twitty City, was it? No, Twitty City.

It used to, no, there used to be... Silver Dollar City. It used to be Twitty City. It might have been before... Well, it was Silver Dollar City. Was it before, was it? No, there was a Twitty City in Nashville. Okay.

Then it became, then it became Dollywood. And people, you think, you would think Dollywood would be crappy. People have never been there. When I, I lived in Tennessee, and I'm like, oh, I'm sure it's just painted concrete. and just sort of phony, crappy stuff. It's really awesome.

It will exceed your expectations if you ever go there. Anyway. Oh, my gosh. And let us give everybody a tip, Tase. What's the best day to go to Dollywood? The day it's open after Labor Day. Absolutely. Give yourself a bill.

That is exactly right. I remember going the, so if you don't have kids that have to be in school, The day after Labor Day, there's nobody there. And I remember going on the flume ride, which, you know, takes you up and then you go down the waterfall, and then it takes you around this little diorama, you know, where somebody's being eaten by a bear. A stupid crap like that. But I remember getting up there and they go, Yon go again. Yep.

And we go, hell yeah, and you just go again. Then you get up there again, you want to go again? Hell yeah. Until you get sick of it. We did Tennessee tornado that way, too. And then about the fifth time, I was like, hell, no, I don't want to go again. Let me off this. I'm going to vomit, as we say in Tennessee.

Hey, you want to branch off of your ass crack talk? Yes, yes. And we've got to talk about 420 because that's today. That's actually the reason that we're all here. Yeah, that we're all here. Hey, Richard. We're all halfway here. Hey, Kish is talking about.

Kish is talking about, I think he's asking for a friend, of course. Okay. We're talking about butt cracks. What would cause a chronically itchy butt hole? Oh. Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah, all kinds of stuff. Yeah.

So just having, well, worms is one. Yeah, of course. And pinworms is a big one for kids when they're just constantly digging in their ass. And so there's a lot of myths about that. They do tend to be. more attainable at night because the kids aren't running around. Well, you can get them for a, you know, get a sample of them. So what you do is when the kid that goes to bed, you let them sleep for a while.

And then you go in and you have this little paddle that has tape on, you know, it's got double-sided tape on it. And you just apply it to the area around, you know, in their ass crack around the anus. And then when you do that, then you put it in a little envelope. They look out under the microscope. And if it has worms in there, you know, they give you a medication that goes away. Did we do that? We never had to do that.

No, we did not. No, we did not. So we had a lice scare once. Yes. That was fun. I don't think our kids actually had lice, but we had to go through the whole thing. And we were so paranoid. We almost burned everything.

I remember this. That was the day before we left for Hawaii. That's right. That's why we were so paranoid. You have such a better memory about that. that kind of stuff than I do. Getting on a plane with lice. Can you imagine?

I would have gone anyway. We're, we're 20 minutes out from landing in Hawaii's, but he'll open. And by the way, there is a possibility that you've all been exposed to head lice. Right. Welcome to Hawaii. Do you rather have head lice in Hawaii or COVID in Hawaii. Oh, that's an interesting one. I think I'll take head lice.

So this, yeah, go ahead. No, I just going to say, you know, the itchy butt. Oh, yeah, itchy butt. Yeah, that's kind of get. Let's finish that. So pinworms, you got that. And then the most common thing, I mean, they're, they're just, it's just called proctitis.

We have inflammation of the rectum. It can be caused by a bunch of different things, including autoimmune diseases. So if you have chronically itchy butt, you want to get it looked at. But there are, I think the most common cause for it is using paper to wipe your ass. It's basically really dry paper. We have talked about this going way back to the first show, that if you think about it, take a, if you have a bare rug, squirt some Vaseline on it, and then try to wipe it off with a piece of newspaper. Good luck.

And when you have a really hairy ass crack, and if you have, if you're streaking your underwear, the reason is, is you can't complete. Come on skid, Mark, what's the matter? You can't completely clean your ass with paper. And Tacey's mom, she's like, well, I use a roll of toilet paper a day. And I'm like, Joanne, what the hell? And she's going, well, I want to be clean. It's like you're not clean. That's not cleaning yourself.

Wiping just, you know, oily, you know, distrco-bulinogen-laden waste products with a piece of paper off of skin that's got hair embedded in it. You can't do it. So the greatest thing in the world, Tase. Mm-hmm. Drum roll. What's it called? Biday. Yes.

I know who she's going to say. And then also I have a friend who cannot go anywhere without the wipes, the wet wipes. Right. So wet wipes are great if you don't have a bidet around, but you can get a tushy bidet for under $100. We installed ours, knock on wood, two or three. No, right at the beginning of the pandemic, when we couldn't get toilet paper. You still need toilet paper to pat it dry. You need a little bit just to pat, pat, pat, but you don't need.

And I tell you, I hate it when we go somewhere. If we go on vacation and I don't have my bidet, I'm not as happy as I am when I'm at home. It's amazing. It is amazing. It is something about the warm wash of your breakfasts. It doesn't even have it. Ours isn't warm. It's just regular ambient temperature water.

I don't care. Once you get used to it, it feels great. great and you could just sit there and hell read the newspaper and drip dry and not use toilet vapor if you wanted to and just put your underwear on and never touch your ass disgusting do you both take your phone into the toilet i don't take my phone not my phone oh i do yeah for sure no i take my iPad though i see that's just that's well i read i read and i look at stuff and i listen to who are these podcasts my thing is sunday it starts but he usually puts it up late And then Monday morning, instead of listening to horrible news, I play, you know, 15, 20 minutes.

So who are these podcasts? It's a two-hour podcast. I can get through Thursday, and then I listen to the creep-off, and I'm ready to go. And I'm happy. I'm not listening to depressing horrible news. Yeah. And I enjoy it. So there you go.

But, yes, my iPad goes with me into the bathroom. That's poop particles right there. Your poop particles. Not on my phone. No, all true. I do wash my iPad, but just when the screen gets crazy. With pee, probably. You probably pee on it.

All right. Jesus Christ. All right. I love it. Thank you, Tacey, for. You're welcome. Now every time I go into the bathroom with my iPad, that's what I'm going to think about. It's disgusting.

Well, you know what I don't do, and I've seen people do this, is they take their to-go thing from the restaurant. They go into the bathroom to wash their hands. Oh, that's so hard. But what if you're by yourself? I know. You can't leave. Oh, so you've done this.

No, no, no. No. Oh, you know what's disgusting is I saw a meme of this guy who carries, what do you call that takeout that we do all the time. What Chinese takeout? DoorDash. DoorDash. He had a door dacher. one of those, an Uber Eats bag, on the floor, and he was in the toilet.

Oh. Man. So he had. You are one pathetic loser. Picked up food and went and took a potty. Now listen, we've got Kim chickens here. She's the only one who's got any damn sense. She says we should put our devices in a Ziploc bag before we go to the toilet.

Just like we do when we go to the beach. Yep. That takes too much work, Kim. Yeah. I'm not doing that. Sorry, Kim. Sorry, Kim. That's a great idea.

I'm just not doing it. doing it. Great idea. I mean, but then you know what I do do? Then I'd have to cover my toothbrush, too. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Your toothbrush doesn't sit next to your toilet, does it? It's in there, though. It's all over, yeah. Oh, damn,

no. Because I do close the lid to the toilet when I flush it. Of course. Because I read that study that showed that when you flush it, you're just spewing particles of fecal matter and stuff all

all over your bathroom. I wonder how far it goes. God, it's in your toothbride. Well, you know what? We're used to it. Yeah. If you're not used to that by now, you're. Yeah.

I mean, our bodies are used to a little bit of fecal coliforms getting into our. Tacey. Are you brushing your teeth with feces taste? You know, and I did hear those air blow dryer things, like the Dyson's, like the really good ones. You mean for drying your hands? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Full of poop. and those two. Yeah. So no, we're saying Dyson as a generic term for all air things. Yeah, as in,

I meant when I said that the good ones, you know. Not the crappy ones McDonald's has. Oh, that's Tacey for everybody. Thanks, Tacey.

So much for them being a sponsor for weird medicine, I guess. The opinions expressed by Tacey on the show did not reflect. No,

they'll reflect. all of the losers. Anybody who's been there knows it's true. They even know it's true. We better do something. So, Scott, you're a hippie. Where did 420 come from? Why is April 20th considered international, you know, doby day?

So allegedly, according to the History Channel, I did look this up just in case. But there were a group of five California teens that used to meet and hang out at their school in San, it's in San Rafael, California. Okay. And they, it's a nickname their spot, and they called themselves the Waldo's. Okay. And they would meet at 420. And I guess that's where the whole thing started.

Because, you know, there's been, there's been, and they're actually thinking about the two remaining members of the Waldo's that are remaining anonymous are thinking about doing a little documentary on how this all started. Really? Yep, yep. So it started in California, and of course, they became. He came friends with the Grateful Dead. What?

For real? Yeah, for real, yep. Sure did. They met, they met Phil Lesh, of course, the fabulous basest for the... Reminds me of Dr. Steve kind of... Shit. And, yeah, that's where it all starts. So, California, back in a good old day, but it was funny.

They said he used to smoke pot, get high, and drive around and look for... And look for this plant. Look for a special plant. Some Coast Guard guy. I'm on the history channel. So I was thinking, well, Scott's... fall on prey to some... No, I just thought you'd fall on prey to something.

But this is actually on the history channel. It says they learned of a Coast Guard member who had planted a cannabis plant could no longer tend to the crop. One plant. Provided with a treasure map, some say by the plants owner himself supposedly leading to the abandoned product.

The group would meet at the Louis Pasteur statue outside their high school once a week at 4.20 p.m. And that was they were all athlete. They pile into a car, smoke some pot, scour the nearby Point Reyes Forrest for the elusive free herb. Isn't that something? Isn't that cool? It was just, they're basically tilting at windmills, but it sounds like they had a good time, so who cares?

They never did score the free bud, mad. But perhaps they stumbled on something more lasting. The term 420 was quite, isn't it crazy? Pretty funny. How something, you know, just these five kids. And now everybody, you know, even our son. we used to set, and our son is drug-free, but he thinks it's hilarious to set his alarm at 420 and then do the dab at 420 just for the hell of it.

All of his friends do. Yeah, and they're all drug-free, too. Well, okay, maybe I've been around the block. I think I can spot that stuff, and, you know, maybe I'm just being, you know, a polyana, But, you know, I was with them for a whole weekend. Of course, you can not do pot all weekend. I never, I just don't get that vibe from them. But they all love to dab at 420.

They think it's hilarious. Wonder what they're doing today. Yeah. Well, remember, you know, the good old days of smoke and pop, but now, hell, it's in so many different forms. Ooh, it's 10 minutes until 420. Oh, good. What should we do?

Should we have a countdown? No. No. Stupid. Hey, but, you know, there's a lot of. of other forms of ways to consume than smoking. Because, you know, it used to be somebody smokes a pot to come walk in. They smell like weed.

Yeah. You know, now, I mean. Or you walk into your Bible class in Episcopal High School, you know, or someplace like that. I'm just throwing one out of there in Baton Rouge. And you drop your pen and you try to pick it up and then you drop it again because you're uncoordinated and you drop it about five times trying to pick it up. and then you start laughing uncontrollably. Or that could happen.

I'm just throwing something out random that. Who knows? You know, that could have maybe happened back then in 1973. The year I was born. Yay. Don't rub it. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, don't rub it in.

Okay. So, yeah, so things are way different. Back then. I mean, a nickel bag was called a nickel bag because it was $5. And a dime bag was a dime bag because it was $10. And I remember hearing about people

meeting another friend in an alley near the school and exchanging $10 for a dime bag and then telling the friend who you grew up who, well, oops. who that person grew up with, dude, you don't know me. That's what they were doing there. So stupid.

So stupid. You don't know me. So, you know, it was always my wish because I went through the 60s. And I saw John Sinclair incarcerated for his political views, but because he had two joints. That's what they could put him up for. I went to the free John Sinclair concert.

in Ann Arbor and all that stuff, I always wanted to, it was on my bucket list to be able to buy pot legally. And I finally had that opportunity last year in Chicago, because in Chicago, you just walk in. And you just buy whatever you want, you know, up to a certain limit. Yeah. But it was way more than I would ever need it. Yeah, yeah. So I got, you know, she said, well, the concierge in there. No, I think they're called Bud Tenders.

Well, it depends on where you are. Colorado, they're called Bud Tender. Okay, the Bud Tender came and said, well, what do you want? I said, I remember laughing my ass off with my friends, and I'd like to recreate that. She said, oh, we'll get this. And then, so I took, you know, I got it back to my hotel, and at two in the morning, I've told this story before, but maybe not everybody's heard it. Two in the morning, I take this gummy, and I didn't do any laughing. When it kicked in, I was just paranoid to hell.

And I remembered, oh, shit, this is why I stopped doing this stuff a million years ago, if I ever did do it, allegedly. And I, because I would get paranoid. And I was like, oh, my God, I've given everybody COVID. Maybe they gave me COVID. How am I going to get home? I'm going to have to cancel my flight. And my mind is racing. And then I hear it had to have been like some.

like a pipe that was clanking or something but it sounded to me like someone was playing disco music underneath me at like six in the morning which of course they weren't this is a nice hotel there's nobody blaring disco music

at six in the morning and I was like fuck this and I sealed it all up and I gave it to one of the comedians at the event who we name every show at the very

very end of the show, the podcast. But anyway, so that was that. But then I realized that it was the setiva that was in there that does it. But anyway, but that was on my bucket list, and I really wanted to do that because the world has just changed from people sneaking around. And I really do believe it needs to be legal. And I'll tell you why. When it's legal, you can control it. And I have all kinds of patients who come in.

And they're doing pot, which I have no problem with, particularly cancer patients. I have no problem with them doing pot because it happens to be illegal. I can't prescribe it and I can't say, but I can just say I'm not going to do anything if there's pot in there. But they'll also have methamphetamine or sometimes fentanyl in their urine drug screen in low doses. And what's happening is they're getting pot off the street that's been laced with other shit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And instead of having strains, it's like, well, this one will make you sleepy, man.

You know, at a pot dispensary, they have different strains and they know what it is. And this, they want to make you sleepy. They just throw fentanyl in it. That's so scary. Now your drug screen is effed up and it's putting you at risk. So it needs to be fucking legal. Yeah. Sorry.

And this pisses me off. It needs to be legal so that that kind of shit doesn't happen to people anymore. And it is, I mean, it's undeniably safer than alcohol. Undeniably has more medicinal properties than alcohol does. I'm a big favor in medical marijuana, if not recreational marijuana. Why would we deprive a hospice patient with... From anything, for goodness things. Right, from anything, but something that we know will help them.

Yep, yep, yep, yep. So that part irritates the ever-loving crap out of me. but I'm glad to see that the world in that regard is changing. Now, if we're going to have these, you know, whatever side of the aisle you're on, I'm not on that side because I'm tend toward being a libertarian in the sense that I'm socially very liberal, and I'm a little more conservative when it comes to fiscal stuff. But, you know, with these, we have a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress. This is the time if they're going to legalize marijuana on a national level.

Now's the time. they doing? I figured that would be one of the first things that they would do is like, man, okay, remember that pot thing that's not a problem anymore. But they're not doing it, so I don't know. I don't, I don't understand anything. I'm with you too. And friends

of mine who are police officers will tell you, you know, arresting someone who's smoking pot. Say, hey, man, just come on in. Hey, we've got some, you've got some chips in the cupboard. We have some pizza if you want something. You know, whereas, and sadly people who had way too much alcohol or methamphetamines or stuff like that

I mean you got to beat them tase them him in a face you don't have to beat them but I know what you mean this is not coming from your old buddy Dr. Scott this is coming from my friends you know just to get their attention that's just it's a tough thing well it is they're much more belligerent that's for sure shoot you yeah so anyhow pretty cool yeah so there's the history of 420 that's very cool I did not know that I didn't either I just sound like I did not know that. I always wondered. That's weird, weird stuff.

I did. That's weird stuff. It's weird, weird stuff. But I always wondered what the saying meant. Yeah. Where's Waldo? Now we know what that means. That came from this too?

That's exactly what that's from. Yeah, exactly. Where's Waldo is from this? No. Yeah, because if you read on down through there. I'm going to buy God, look up. It goes down and through there. And they talk about Waldo and they say, where's Waldo?

And that was kind of the code from those guys. Yeah. From saying, and that's what it went through the dead and through everybody else. And so teachers and parents and stuff wouldn't know what Waldo meant, but that's kind of where they're perfect. Because in England, it's Where's Wally? Yeah, well, this is Where's Waldo? Allegedly, no. I'm just reading this from the...

Okay, I don't know. I've got to see... I'll find it. I'll see that on the history channel. I'll bring it. I'll find it a minute. Not on some website. No, I'll find it before the end of the show yet.

Okay, all right. Cool. All right, so there's that. Do you have anything else? We should probably answer some questions. No. Probably should. Anybody in the...

waiting room, have any questions? By the way, the exam room this weekend on our patron is going to have the inimitable James Norton, and he and Tacey are going to talk about 90-day fiancé, I think. We're going to talk about some other stuff, too. We'll do some medical things, but I really think that the conversation is going to tend toward 90-day fiancé, two lunatics, talking about those 90-day shit show. Ooh, this season's going to be good. It's going to be so good. Is it?

Okay. All right. You got anything else? No. Anything in the chat room? No. No. No right now.

All right. Well, let's take some phone calls soon. Let's see here. Hey. Hey, Scott. What's up, old bud? Ladies. Hello?

Got two part question for you. Okay. Blood. Okay. If you're donating blood, what parts of the blood did they use? Stop. Part B is what part of your blood is the DNA stored in? Yeah.

So if you're donating blood, are you donating your DNA to somebody else also? Or is that separated out because the white blood cells, the red blood cells, one has the DNA, one doesn't hurt? How's that work? Yeah, you know, when you do, let's just take a more extreme example. If you do a transplant, organ transplant, that organ has the other. person's DNA in it. That's why, and it also has all of their friend or foe markers

in it too, so your white blood if you just take a heart and sew it into somebody's chest, the white blood cells are going to go, this thing is not supposed to be here, and then it will go after them and kill it. And every once in a while, you will get, when you

graft white blood cells to someone, let's say you've got somebody that has a bone marrow that won't make white blood cells, and then you give them precursor cells. And then those white blood cells go, we're in heaven, everything we see is foreign, right? And then they'll attack the person's body. That's called graft versus host disorder,

where the graft actually attacks. So the good news is when you transfuse-packed red blood cells, although you'll have some white blood cells in there as well, that and those have DNA in them white blood cells don't carry DNA at all they are devoid of DNA and they're mature form wow yeah they're barely living they're mostly vessels to transmit oxygen from the outside to the inside so they go and they have they get pumped through the capillaries of the lung they pick up oxygen and the hemoglobin molecule can hang on to oxygen and then dispense it where there is low oxygen.

And there's no thinking to it. It's just pure physics. So in a high oxygen concentration area, they'll pick up oxygen, low concentration area. They will give up oxygen. And that way, red blood cells take oxygen from the outside and transmit it to the tissues of the body. Right. It's pretty cool.

Yeah, they're little messengers. Yeah. Yeah. They just carry stuff. So there's really, now there will be a little bit of DNA in there, but it, we will not be incorporated into your DNA in any way. And any cells that have antigens on them that the body doesn't like, those will be attacked and killed.

So that's why you have to be careful when you transfuse somebody, too, because they've got the, you know, the ABO sort of incompatibilities, and then there's RH issues. And there are other antigens, too, other than A, B, and O, but those are the big ones. So an O would have no antigens, the A would have the A and the B. have B evidence, and you have to be really careful, you have universal donors and you've got universal acceptors, but don't worry about it.

It's just, we could do a whole thing on blood typing if we wanted to, and we have in the past. Sure. But, yeah, so, yes, there will be some DNA transmitted if that blood is just given directly from the one person to the other, but it's in minuscule amounts, and then it's promptly destroyed, broken down into its constituent parts and then made into your own DNA using tiny little, you know, building blocks so that there's no information from that other person transmitted into your genome. Because I'm sure that's what they're worried about. Yeah, sure. Okay, excellent question.

All right. Let's see. Hey, Dr. Steve. This is Franen from Michigan. How are you guys doing? Hey, good. How are you, man? Awesome.

I'm doing all right. Good. I appreciate. Yeah, man. I've got two quick questions that have nothing to do with each other. Okay. The first is, what are your thoughts, or I guess it was one of the other questions, but what are your thoughts on prolonged opioid use and low testosterone?

Is he taking a shower while he's going in? For that, because I've been on opioids for 15 years now. Okay. And the second is how rare is... Okay, he said these two things are unrelated, so let's talk about the first one. Yes, over 50% of men who are on long-term opioids, whether they're abusing them on the street or they're taking them prescribed by a health care provider, will have low testosterone. It's a huge number.

So if you're on chronic opioids, and you feel fatigued and have, you know, decreased muscle strength and decreased libido erectile dysfunction may not just be the opioids. You may have low testosterone. Studies have shown that if you have low testosterone and it's treated that most of those men will feel better. Without changing your dose of the medication? That's right.

Okay, cool. Yep. Now, you may need to wonder why, you know, if you. need to stay on the medication, but that's another issue. I did have somebody email me the other day because I talked about this if you have low normal testosterone. Tacey

and I used to talk about this all the time because she used to, you know, sell a drug that was related to this. That if you have low normal testosterone, a lot of primary care people go, oh, you're normal. It's normal. It says normal. It's low as 300 and yours is

301, so you're normal. You're not normal. If you're symptomatic, you're not normal. So low normal testosterone, plus this constellation of symptoms, needs to be treated. Every urologist I've ever talked to will agree with that. But a lot of the primary care people never send the patient to the urologist because they're saying, well, no, it's normal. So if that ever happens to you, you're listening to this, I still walk the earth, I have an article that I can send you that you can let them read that says, low normal testosterone, with that symptomatic does respond to being treated and the reason is the low normal really

is low it's just that there are so many people with low testosterone that they get included in the calculation when they calculate the normal it's kind of like this recursive loop that just keeps driving the normal range lower and lower and so people that are low normal really probably are just low if we if we did it probably if we did the thing properly great follow-up question does this affect female hormones as well um i'm not aware of that it will affect your testosterone i'm not aware of estrogen that'd be a good thing to look up i'll look it up that's good question that up it's not that i don't care about that it's that i see the other so often and i've not seen women saying well i'm having i've been on opioids all this time i'm having hot flashes

and those kinds of things that would be indicative of a low estrogen level why is it testosterone alone now you have to ask me that. I'm not going to rest until I know the answer. I'm looking up right now. Okay, good. All right. I probably won't find anything, but I'll still look it up. I'll find it, by God.

I'll look it up. All right. This is a good one for Dr. Scott, I think. We may have played this before. Let's see. Didn't we have another half to the other? Oh, we sure did. Thank you, Tacey.

Yep. Bungle pneumonia, and is it possible to get it by aspirating into a ventilator. Into a ventilator, is that what he said? Yes. Yeah. No, you can get fungal pneumonia. People who get fungal pneumonia are sicker in hell.

It's usually people who are vulnerable, and then they get really sick, because your body is usually pretty good at fighting off little fungi that are in the air that end up in your lungs. They'd just kill them. But if they can't, it means your immune system has got a problem. It's had some compromise. or you're sicker and shit already,

and then now on top of that, you get fungemia. He's asking a very specific question, could this happen by aspirating? I don't know how you would aspirate into a ventilator. The ventilator actually prevents you from aspirating because it's a closed system that doesn't include the GI tract. So for people who don't know,

what's talking about is if you have, and I'm assuming this is endotracheal intubation, so this is where they take the two, tube, put it down your mouth, into your trachea, so your voice box, and that leads directly into the bronchite, you know, the main stem bronchus, which is the big tube that then divides into two. One goes to one lung, one's go to the other, and that starts dividing like crazy from there. It's like the trunk of the tree.

Yeah, very good. Thank you, sir. And when you put that in there, you put a balloon that's circumferential in that and you've inflated so that there's no air can get past either from the outside of the inside or vice versa, past that balloon. So it's a seal that prevents you also if you vomit, which normally they'll have a tube going into your stomach and either putting food in or taking stomach contents out. Even if you did vomit, as we say in Tennessee, it wouldn't. get into your lungs and that was that's the definition of aspirating when you you know when something goes into your lungs that's not supposed to be there so um i don't know how that would happen

i'd like to hear more about the circumstances of that before i answered but yeah people on the ventilator can get a fungal pneumonia people are just sick as hell compromised immune system that kind of stuff so did you find out anything about estrogen and testosterone i just found the i haven't i haven't read through the whole thing yet but i did find something okay um i I found at PubMed, and the bottom, I'll give you the kind of the basic thing. Long-term opioids linked to hypogonadism and the role of testosterone supplement therapy. But it does talk about estrogen and progesterine in here as well. I just hadn't got to the bottom of it.

Okay. I'm sorry. I'm reading as fucking fast as I can. Hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine had no impact on estrogen-free levels while tramadol, fentanyl, fentanyl, and gabapentin significantly reduced levels of free estrogen. He beat you. So, wow, that's interesting. I don't use much tramadol because my patients have much more pain than tramidol is an opioid-like drug that actually has a sealing dose. Regular opioids have no sealing dose.

But tramidol also has what we call SNRI effects. In other words, it acts as sort of an antidepressant. You've got depression and pain. Let's just throw some tramadol at it. And that's fine unless you're already on an antidepressant. And now you've got two drugs that are increasing your serotonin levels. That's a problem. Or if you have pain that this stuff can't handle, you reach a sealing dose.

So I don't use a lot of it. We do use some fentanyl and we do use gabapentin. And the interesting thing here is it significantly reduced levels of free estrogen. But did that cause a problem for the... the patient and I'm not seeing that so just because something reduces levels of something it could be because it interferes with the lab test or it could be it's actually causing you to produce less but is it enough to cause you know fragile bones or symptomatic effects like hot flashes and dry vaginas and stuff like that so that's interesting in that yeah there is a thing called opioid endocrinopathy

which is really what we're talking about. And this is in, I'm looking at one in the Journal of Pain in 2008, in women consuming prescribed sustained action opioids for the control of non-malignant pain. And they said they found profound inhibition of ovarian sex hormone and adrenal androgen production. We already knew that among women chronically consuming sustained action opioids. Related consequences included altered menstrual flow,

probable reduced fertility and possible contributions to opioid associated depression. Now, this is from non-malignant pain, so these will be usually younger, healthier women than I deal with. So this is interesting, and I'm going to learn something from this today. So thank you all for bringing that up. I probably knew it at one point, but I just forgot. All right, let's see. What else do we have? Let's do this one.

Hey, Doc. It's Zach from Oklahoma. I hope you and Dr. Scott are doing well. We are. We are. I'm Tacey's here, too. I got a question for the both of you. Maybe one of you can help me out. All my life, I've had horrible sinuses. Okay. I have a bad problem with allergies. I have a deviated septum, which doesn't help. I get bad sinus infections. Ever since I was in high school, I've always used flonase nasal spray. And it's, it's, helped out a lot. At night, though, I have a real problem at night with my sinuses swelling up.

You know, they'll close off, and there's nothing in there. There's no snod or anything, and they just swell up. I use breathe right nasal strips, which help get me to sleep, but I'll wake up at night and, you know, they'll just be closed up. and then I'll, you know, it'll kind of go away and then it'll come back and, you know, I'll have to breathe through my mouth and my mouth will be real dry and stuff. And I just, I don't know what's going on. And some nights, it'll be totally fine.

You know, I won't get that at all. And my question is, like, what's happening to make it do that and then sometimes not do it? He needs surgery. That was my life before I had it taken care of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Tacey had a Concha Belosa, which is something a little different than this. I had a deviated septum, too. It looked like a train wreck in there.

Yep. And deviated septum, you can sometimes diagnose them just by hearing somebody talk. I diagnosed Carl from WATP. You know, my name on his discord is Carl's deviated septum. He said, how did you know I had a deviated septim? I said, I can hear it. It's so amazing having that surgery. You just wouldn't believe what it's like to actually breathe.

Like, I feel like I could take a Mack truck up my nose. It's just a... So it may be that he may need a sleep study. There's stuff he may need, but I would see an ear-nose-and-throat doctor or at least let your primary care look up there. Tell them the same story you told us and let them look in there. If they see a deviated septim, it's really easy. You know, the septum is just that thing that goes, you know,

that divides the right nostril from the left one, and it's supposed to go straight back. And in some people, it varies wildly. It's like an S-shaped. So even if it's wide open in the front, On the left, it's going to be closed on the back because the septum makes this sort of serpentine shape. And so that can be fixed. And you don't have to live this way.

Yeah. And I speak from experience. Wash your nose out with some. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Little Simply Irbles nasal spray.

Wash it out. Go to Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net and check that out. If everything else is normal and you're healthy. Yep. Yeah. And then do that. So, Dr. Scott, you had a question from the. Chat room?

Chat room. We call it the waiting room, sir. The best question of the day from Richard. Okay. Are we coming to New York anytime soon? This is Richard Kish. Richard Kish, correct. Okay, so Richard is a weirdo, just like I am, and he likes King Crimson and Prague music, Prague rock man.

And back in the 70s, he would have been right there with me spinning, you know, tails, all four sides. of tales from top topographic oceans and all that stuff so but he's a good guy so we have some stuff in common and we would love to come i what i hear is manhattan's a shithole so tell us that it's not and we'll come yeah because i i remember manhattan at its greatest moment and uh you know it's i just don't want to see it in a diminished form and also don't want to get mugged in time square So, I mean, we usually, if we go to 103, we usually stay at the Marriott right off at Times Square and they can walk. It's just a block to the Sirius XM studio, maybe a block and a half. And so, you know, I would love to do that.

I've been listening to Jim and Sam, you know, they've found their voice. I'm really enjoying listening to them on the road. I just been so long since I've been on the road long enough to listen to them. So I would love to go back and do that. and I'm very comfortable with them. They're both friends, you know. Hey, one last. One last quickie.

So, yes, we'll work on that. Yeah, I'd love to go. I love men. Last quickie, Colin Carnes, seems like everyone has a mild or mid-afternoon slump fatigue. What can cause worsening fatigue in the afternoon seems like around 2 p.m. Yeah, no shit. And, of course, everybody after that says, same here, same here. Well, that's when I was driving home.

I took my daffanil today around 2 o'clock, and I, you know, I almost fell asleep driving. so that's real common and go ahead taste i used to feel that way until i got my thyroid figured out well that's true now i don't feel that way at all i wonder if that could be a testosterone issue i mean that could be a medical thing it could be that's the thing uh there we have these diurnal rhythms meaning that um they go by the clock you know night day type things that's why when you have a cold you feel worse as the sun is going down and more heart attacks happen at six in the morning when people's cortisol it starts kicking back in and stuff like that.

In part, it is physiological. You know, this normal circadian cycle, you know, dictates this sort of period of sleepiness in the afternoon, and it may go back to caveman days where people just, they just did that because it was hot. There was no game, so it was a good time to sleep, was in the heat of the afternoon, and we may still be carrying some of that, those diurnal rhythms, rhythms that were created by our distant ancestors. But Tacey's right, sleep disorders, medical disorder, I have a sleep disorders, stress, insufficient sleep, poor eating habits. My blood sugar was low because I hadn't had anything to eat today.

He never eats. I didn't eat or drink anything today until what time was that, like 2 o'clock. So that's stupid and effed up. So, you know, I've got to do better in that. But part of it is these damn invisalines. You can't eat with them in. And if you're on the road and you eat something, then you can't put them back in again. You've got to brush your teeth or you're just taking food and just cramming it between the tooth and the fucking invisaline.

And that's just disgusting. So, you know, anyway, enough about me. Enough about you. Well, and may I also add that that is one of the reasons that, um, One of my formulas, fatigue reprieve, is that's why I developed fatigue reprieve was for those afternoon. Really? Yeah, sure is. Well, you know what?

By God, we'll do an N of one. If you'll bring some over there, because that was GVAC's favorite thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's one. I took some Monday. We had the worst day here Monday. It was, you know, cold, went rainy and just yucky. It's awful. Yeah, Monday afternoon everybody was like, oh, I feel like shit.

So our whole office took the fatigue reprieve. Okay. And what did they say? Oh, felt wonderful. Of course. Of course. It's magic. Fucking placebo.

I made it. I made it. Hey, who cares if it's a placebo? It works. I'm not saying. That's right. I didn't mean to say fucking placebo in a pejorative sense. Just that, you know, if that's what it is, that's even better because you're not really doing anything physiologic to your system.

It's healing itself. Yep. I think the placebo, that's great. I mean, anything that will cause your body to heal itself is great. And if you can do it without any drug using a placebo, I'm cool with that. just don't say it's something else no i'm not saying you are i'm not talking about you in this case so i know uh so yeah it's interesting in that well it's 420 somewhere doctor you can't play you'll play one yeah we'll play some music and this will be uh just for the people

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