Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 520 - Stem Cell Baby

Episode Date: September 3, 2022

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this thing that I've seen it in writing okay you've seen it in writing that's all right on the internet graffiti on the side of some I read it on the internet CV day's good for yeah but I would And it's excellent to be very interested in seeing that. I just think CBD in general it would be good for, you know, that's a good route for CBD if you're into that. Anyway, I don't know about all these other claims. No, I'm not making any claims. I mean, now, it's been scientifically proven to be the best nasal spray in the world. Oh, yeah.

Okay, oh, God. Okay, that's Dr. Scott saying that. Anyway, we better shut up. We'll get in trouble for doing an ad. But anyway. Um, yeah, and I want to say, uh, happy birthday to the owner of our network. Mr. Cardiff, it is his birthday today. So happy birthday, sir. All right. Um, do you guys know anything about no, not November?

No. Nope. Okay. Well, there is this thing called no nut November. Do you guys know what month it is? It's technically no nut November. Well, okay, so it's not right now that when she recorded this. I know. Yeah. Do you know what day this is, Steve? So it's September, I'll go. We've got a couple of months to prepare for no-nut November.

That's funny. So I'm Dr. Rina Malik, urologist, and pelvic surgeon, and I'm finally going to talk to you guys about no-nut November or semen retention. No, thank you. No, thank you. It sounds like a great idea to me. Hold on to that semen. Yeah.

I had no-nut 2020. Oh, shut up. Warr-w-w-w-w-w-want. Here I talk about all sorts of things, sexual health. urologic health, bladder health, and much, much more. Okay. She has three million views. So I'm not crapping on her.

She's obviously very successful. Every housewhip and share this channel with your friends. Okay, enough. So anyway, I just wanted to see if she said anything about the health benefits of not doing No, Not November, because there are studies that show that people who, who ejaculate frequently actually have a decreased risk of prostate cancer. But I believe that the number of ejaculations per month is something like 21 a month. That's excessive.

They'll get busy. So what they're talking about is 18-year-olds, no shit, they don't get prostate cancer. Good Lord. Exactly. Let me see what she says here. Okay. Same. So what do I think about semen retention or No Nut November?

Well, I think if you're getting benefits from participating in No Nut November, like you're feeling more clear, you're having deeper relationships, you're feeling like you're more excited about being with your partner. That is something. Or if you're less depressed because it's intentional. Right, right, right, right. Oh, I'm doing it on purpose. Right. I do think that she brings up a. a good point here where she said well you're feeling like you're more excited excited about

being with your partner um i i have people that will call me or write to me saying i am no longer as attracted you know i have difficulty performing with my spouse or my long time girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever but i don't have any trouble masturbating and uh it's like well then stop masturbating because if you want to be excited about doing it with your partner you got to quit beating off in between because nobody knows how to manipulate and this is for guys nobody know and true for women too nobody knows how to manipulate your junk like you do and it's a whole lot easier to bust a nut when you're doing it yourself than it is when you're sticking your penis somewhere in your partner's orifices or whatever

because they don't have the control over your junk that you do if you're masturbating. Does that make sense? And sometimes people, you know, Bob and Tom used to say, Tacey and I used to listen to that every morning at 6 in the morning. They used to say, show me, you know, a beautiful person and I'll show you someone that's tired of having intercourse with them, you know, male or female.

So, but part of this is people beat off a bunch of, in between time and then and try to have sex with their partner that they've been with for you know 10 15 20 years it's it's more difficult and the older you get the more difficult it is so stop beating off and save it for your partner and then the next thing you know you'll realize that you're still hot for them it's just that you're not getting it beating off is too easy you know so anyway that's all so bust a nut November is or bust a nut November or bust a nut November is what I would like to do. But anyway, all right.

Yeah, that was all I wanted to talk about on that. Do you guys, we were going to do stories. We were going to try something new, and I don't have a theme song for this, but you guys were each going to bring a gross medical story. And I will be perfectly honest. I'm ripping this off from shitty song of the week, where they do this,

and also the Creep-off podcast. I didn't want to say anything, but... No, I'm ripping it off from that. But they ripped it off from, you know, every other show where you vote for something, but I want you guys to bring a creepy or gross medical story and then people vote on it. And if we have a winner, maybe we'll do something.

You know, the Creep-off, which is Carl and Vinny, they do, it's a comedy, true crime show, and they have to bring the worst creep in some certain topic and then everybody votes and if you lose five times you have to spin the wheel of consequences and the wheel of consequences is always something you don't want to do so i don't know i don't ever want to spin the wheel of consequences so i would prefer that we not do that maybe we'll do something more positive if somebody wins rather than doing something shitty if somebody loses but i'm going to tell you people will be more interested if there was some some having

do some embarrassing shit on the line yeah they would be more interested so we'll see well we'll try this and see but anyway uh who wants to go first um let's let's let scott go first and so we'll go uh we'll go counterclockwise that sounds like one of those deals when you're standing in line and anybody wants to go first just step forward they'll forget about everybody steps back yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then you're just stuck there and you're stuck like like an idiot all right i found me okay what you got i found one it's the largest or longest tapeworm ever removed from a human being. Okay, you win.

So this was, this dude, this poor, by the way, Google image that, if you want to really be grossed out. This dude living in India, God bless him, he started having. That's hilarious. He started having, Jesus, poor God. No, I'm not laughing at him. I'm just,

I'm just, poor God. He starts having. Man, he has for years and years. You are one pathetic loser. He, for years and years is having abdominal pain. Yeah. And they're having trouble really identifying where the abdominal pain is coming up. I'm having difficulty gaining weight.

Well, then he starts losing more and more weight, and he becomes anemic. Okay. So now they're starting to really get interested. So they pull this out of his stomach. They pulled it out of his stomach or out of his colon? The entire thing, colon, stomach. Just kept going. 82 feet long.

What the fuck? 82 feet long. Yeah, you might win. It's way better. That's disgusting. That's impressive. Wow. That's a hell of worm.

Wow. Yep. Hady too big. Y'all can take your shit home. I'm the winner. All right. Yeah. What do I have to do?

So tape worms. Winner. Tape worms have a really weird life cycle. Obviously, they are parasitic. We call them Sestodes. And they're found in the intestinal tracks of their fun. final host. So that's called the definitive host

if you're a biology major. And each adult tapeworm has a head. It isn't even a head. They have to have a different word for it. It's called a Scholex. And it looks just like what you would think the word Scholex would look

like. And that attaches the tapeworm to the intestinal wall. And then it's got a neck. And then it's got all these segments that develop from the neck regions. And you can shit those out. too. And as these new segments are formed at the neck, the older segments are pushed back, so it just keeps going. And they're hermaphroditic. Each segment has two sets of male and female reproductive organs. And they fill the segment with fertile eggs as the segment is

pushed back from the neck. And when the segment's full of eggs, it attaches itself from the adult tapeworm and has passed in your fecal matter. And then if you, if some poor bastard ingest your tapeworm eggs the stud they hatch and then they migrate out of the intestine into various tissues of the body and uh that can call cysticircosis and that's nasty as well so um you know it's the tapeworms are just disgusting and like i said google image this tapeworm and you'll be uh you'll be horrified that this could live inside of you not know it okay so that's a good one i'm going to say scott And will you keep track of these, too, because I've got to put it up on our Reddit, and we'll put a poll on there. And go to our Reddit.

It's Reddit slash R.S.R. Steve, I think. Just Dr. Steve. Okay. Your turn, Diane. Okay. So this man started developing nausea and yellowing of his skin and was vomiting blood. Okay. So he had magic mushrooms ground up and made a tea of it.

Oh. But he injected it. Yes, yes, yes, we did this story. This is still a good one. The fact that you found this on your own. It's still good. Go ahead. There's lots of people that haven't heard this.

So he had fungus growing in his blood. Yep, and it was magic mushroom fungus. And 22 days it took for him in the hospital of IV antibiotics before he was better. But he did live. But that, ugh. Like mushrooms growing in his blood. Yeah, just eat the damn thing. Just eat them.

Stop doing stupid shit. You don't have to snort stuff. You don't have to snort it or eat it. Just eat it, drink it. Yeah. Al in a hatch, it'll be fine. Well, and, okay, we're not, by the way, we're not encouraging illicit drug use, but... No.

We're talking about mushrooms in general. That's right. That's a general one. As a general. We have these videos of people taking thimblefuls of vodka and putting it under their eyelids. That's stupid. Which it will be absorbed, but that's an asinine way to have a drug. drink. Number one, there's no taste to it. It will burn your cornea. And it's not enough to

really get you off. So just drink the damn stuff. But drink responsibly. We had a story where someone died from giving themselves a champagne enema. And because they did two bottles of champagne, it was all immediately absorbed through the colonic mucosa. Because when you're drinking, you're pacing yourself. And if you get so done, you get so. drunk that you pass out, you just stop drinking. Yeah. Dying. But when you take two bottles of champagne and show it up your ass, you can't control the rate at which it goes into your system.

This person also was doing, what was it, autoerotic asphyxiation, that didn't help any either. So they found them with acute alcohol intoxication, and they had passed out while they were doing autoerotic asphyxiation and so there was that now the other gross enema thing and i'm not going to put this up uh as a as a contender but uh when i was a medical examiner i got that this magazine called the national association of medical examiners it was named and they had this journal that was just full of one gross death after another i mean it was just unbelievable they loved it just page after page people pictures of people who'd got run over by a 18 wheeler and you know just stuff like that and there was this one story that stuck stuck with me that this person gave themselves a concrete

enema now why you would do that i do not know but they gave themselves a concrete enema what people don't realize that don't work with concrete all the time is the reaction that that that causes concrete to crystallize is what we call exothermic which means it generates heat. Lots of heat. So this person basically cooked themselves from the inside and they died. So don't do stupid stuff like that. If you're going to use concrete, make a sidewalk out of it. If you're going to eat mushrooms, you should eat them. Don't inject them. And that's any kind of mushroom, not just magic mushrooms. And if you're going to drink alcohol responsibly, drink it. Don't shove it up your ass.

or put it in your vagina or under your eyelids or any of that. Just drink it. God. Yeah, this guy had organ failure. Yes, because he had, what happened was the mushroom is just the sexual organ of the fungus. The fungus can be, the largest living creatures in the world are fungi because they can span acres and acres and acres of land. And the mushroom is just the sexual organ.

So the thing that he injected actually had spores in it. And then the hyphy forms, which are the growing sort of just Google image hyphi and you'll see that look like networks of things. Got lots of little arms and stuff like that. And they're not arms, but it looks like it, it tendrils. and when you that's what was growing in this person's bloodstream and it doesn't make the the hallucinogen only the mushroom the sexual organ does that and so these things are it's just a it's just a fungus trying to grow and it's growing in your bloodstream feeding off the proteins and the carbohydrates in your blood and that's always a bad thing terrible and so you have to take often some really horrible mycifungin is a drug amphatericin is a drug all of these are geared at getting rid of these single-celled organisms that are more advanced than bacteria so it's harder to kill them and

they're much closer to our types of cells so what ends up happening is you those drugs make you very sick on top of you already being very sick so that was a good one diane good one diane very Thank you. Thank you. Very, very good. What you got? Yeah, we'll give you one of the years. All right, Tacey, what you got? Okay. First, I would just want to say that I really appreciated the homework assignment at 10 a.m. this morning. Okay, what time is it now? 430? Mm-hmm. Yeah, so six hours ago.

She had a big day. Really? What'd you do? I took a nap. I scheduled a flight. Oh. I worked out Oh Oh

Very very good I love that Okay so my story is I'm very bugaphobic So all this is all it took And I was like Okay I found my story

Okay Okay and it's basic It's very basic But it's very disgusting And it's just bedbugs So this is a story I can't stand this I used to be a pest control tech

And got a bed bug call When I arrived the guy was sitting on a bare mattress with a coffee table with a jar on it in front of him. I realized he was picking bedbugs off of himself and putting them in the jar. It was a pint mason jar, three-fourths full, and the bugs were crawling out of it. Oh, come on. And back on to the guy. You know how tiny bedbugs are?

Stop. It's so gross. As quickly as he was putting them back in, hundreds and hundreds. I've never seen so many out in the open like that. It was a true infestation. I've got like three or four of these, if you want to hear them. No, we're good. By the way, the fear of bugs is called entomophobia.

Bugophobia. Yeah. I like your version better. So, anyway. What else am I going to say? So it's all about people. Oh, keep going, keep going. Okay.

This is a good one. This is horrific. Do you know how tiny bedbugs are to have a pint jar where they're just overflowing and crawling out of there? Can you imagine? He's just sitting there. Yeah, in the middle. They're almost impossible to see. In a little, he probably took all the wrong.

rugs and everything and he was just in the middle of the room trying to stay away from these fucking bugs no thanks dude oh you might have won this one well i was a fourth year medical student i was riding with an eMS team and we picked up a homeless man while in route to the emergency department we noticed hundreds of red sores when asked about the wounds the man did not know anything about them two minutes into the drive i saw movement around the man's waistline all of a sudden, 25 to 30 bedbugs crawled out of his pants and started doing their business on his belly and legs. The man felt nothing.

I grabbed one bug with a towel to verify the infestation. Instantly, all 30 bugs rushed back into the man's pants. If you don't think of full-on. Sweet. Cemicade infection is gross. Just wait until you see one. You will itch for a month. Yeah.

Yeah. As soon as you hear that there's bedbugs in that room, you'll start itching. That happens to me every time. This person has scabies. I start itching, this person has bedbugs, yeah. But just imagining the guy picking them and putting them in a jar and then crawling back out. That's the grossest thing. That, to me, I was like, I'm done.

I have seen lots of cases where someone comes in and they've got a wound, a chronic wound, and maybe they live on the street or they don't get a lot of medical care, and they've wrapped it up with towels or whatever, and then you open it up and it's just full of maggots. now the maggots actually serve a purpose I mean sterile maggots are still used sometimes to clean up just dirty wounds you put the maggots in there close it up

and they'll just work their way around eating the dead tissue until it just cleans it up real nice and then the surgeons can go in clean up just do a little bit of the rest and maybe put a graft over it or something so yeah maggots in wounds and it's always my that's called myiasis when that happens

when maggots infest a wound. And look up, I don't know, just, no, you know what, don't do this. I'm going to tell you not to do this. Don't Google penile myiasis. No, they'll do it. And when I go on a show and they say, what's the grossest thing ever, I'll tell them to Google image oral myiasis, and that always makes everybody puke.

I think I've looked that up for you before. I think so, too. I was on Chip Chippers' show, the one called Chip Army, A-R-M-E-Y, and it was with Mark Norman and I was not doing well until I started getting them to Google Image some really gross stuff and then it was a stellar performance

but up until that point I mean what am I going to do with Chip you know I'm not a funny person but I can be a gross person and that was what they needed so you're going to be funny in two weeks that's true that's true oh god is it two weeks yeah check out the Cree buffroast.com.

All the tickets are sold out. It's completely sold out event. It'll be my... They found that Dr. Steve was... My one and only time of trying to do, quote-unquote, stand-up. And I just don't want to suck. That's all. I just don't want to suck.

We'll just act like you're here. Close your eyes and do it. That's what I'm going to have to do. I'm going to do three to five minutes. I'm going to fixate on some people that I know. already are predisposed to like me and one of them is in our chat room right now Sean Pedrick who's going to be

he won one of the VIP seats and he's actually coming so Sean I'm just going to be talking straight to you and you better be laughing at every joke that's all I'm saying that'll get me through this three to five minutes and I'm done but I won't be able to drink until I've done my thing right so I'm I asked Vinny just put me up up front early early so it's at comedy at the carlson september 17th in rochester new york and there will be um uh live stream and i think it'll be free i don't know i mean with carl who

knows no anyway all right hey you want one from the the chat room yes of course so uh talk like a hicks to use god a good one okay um so i guess they were working in the clinic and a gal was having some a gal young a young lady a chick we're assuming

abroad a broad a female female had um I'm not me I'm making fun of him okay go ahead

had what I would assume some pretty significant vaginal pain and they they started evaluating her

and found some tampons that have been up there for a while I've seen that a bunch of times pulled four of them out out of there. That's more than I've ever pulled out. That's going to smell good. So they'd been there for over six weeks. It smelled so bad. Six weeks. Yep. She thought her body had absorbed them. Oh, yeah. So she just kept cranking in and over. No, this is not unheard of. Anyone that ever

does primary care and does women's health or anyone that does women's health will have seen this at least a couple times in their career. And usually what happens is the person is having intercourse on their period they push the tampon up to allow room for you know their partners whatever and and then they forget to take it back out again or they can't grab it and they just go out to hell with it and what happens is there are good bacteria in the vagina but too much of a good thing is not a you know is a bad thing and the bacteria just will grow and grow and it forms kind of a slime layer on there and it's gray and it stinks to high heaven and if you get it out of there the vagina is very good at just cleaning itself out and within a couple of days the odor's gone

and it's back to business as usual but i'll have some of those people do those replenish the good bacteria which is lactobacillus with plain yogurt you know just a douche of plain yogurt if you use a douche you put a tablespoon in eight ounces of warm water that's good and then you can just douche with that or you can use an applicator like a mycelex or what it monostat applicator

and you know for vaginal cream and you just suck up the yogurt in that and put it there but don't be stupid and use yogurt with the fruit on the bottom you just want plain yogurt and it's got to be cultured too needs to be a live

active culture or you're just putting milk products in your vagina Oh, come on. Well, I'm just saying. Let's make a milkshake. Sour cream. Creme fresh. Crem fresh.

All right. Delightful. All right. Anything else you got there? No, sir. I believe how to do it. Okay. But we do have a question.

Number one thing. Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. What did you say? You had something? Yeah, we do have a medical question there. Okay, sure. Yeah, go. From the waiting room?

From the waiting room. So what the waiting room is, for those who are not listening live, is we do this around 3.30, 4 o'clock, usually on Wednesday, sometimes Thursdays, every once in a while on Saturday. Just follow our Twitter feed at Weird Medicine. Or go to our website, I'm sorry, go to our YouTube channel, and it's YouTube.com slash Dr. Steve. 202, I think, but just Google, you know, YouTube search weird medicine, and just sign up for notifications, and then you'll be notified. And we just kind of hang out. We don't push this.

This is not a video show. We don't, you know, people that do YouTube shows, they get hundreds of thousands of views. We'll be lucky to get 100 or 200 for something. We're not pushing that. We get thousands of listens. This is, I'm old school. This is a radio show. But this was kind of a fun thing that was proposed to us by Matt Kleinschmidt from the laugh button.

And it's been fun. And so people can just come hang out and then they can ask us questions live and stuff like that. And it's, you know, Scott and I play horrible songs at the end. But it's fun. Richard Kish and a couple other people hang out and go, oh, that was good. And they just lie to us. They just lie. Liar, actress, go the f*** out.

So anyway. Yay, my favorite show. All right. So you ready? Yeah. Ryan has an excellent question here. Is it possible that I'll be the judge of that? I'll be the judge of that. Is it possible that I would have a full mobility of my forearm and still,

and it still be broken after a fall? I did this the other day, and while it's really bruised and swollen, I can still move it, is that normal? So it sounds like a girl. Okay, you can take this. I mean, define broken. That's the thing. So that's what Scott, that's where Scott's going to go.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say. Yeah, you certainly can break it. And you can have, you know, because there's a hundred different types of fractures that you get. And certainly if it's a compound fracture, so the bone breaks and a half and sticks through the skin. Yeah, then that would be unlikely. Yeah, that's going to be probably unlikely that you're still living in. You'd have some range of motion, but it wouldn't be good. Yeah.

The problem is it would be a dangling range of motion. Right, right, right. Dangler. That's not a good thing. but yeah so it is it's very it's very it's very possible to fall and break your arm yeah or break you know if he fit depending on it you do a spiral fracture you have spiral fracture green stick fracture fractures of hairline fractures and all these things are very very possible um if you're concerned you fracture that go see somebody let them x-ray it sometimes they won't see it the first time

yeah especially if you get enough swelling and it is a green stick spiral fracture um you know hairline fracture, they might not see it initially on the plane. And they'll start to show up when it starts healing, right? Yep, yeah, because they'll start seeing the calcifications of the bones. So, yeah, so, you know, if you're concerned about it, I would definitely go get someone to look at it. X-rays typically the first thing they would do, and if they suspect more, they can do more invasive stuff. If it's red and swollen, you know, it wouldn't hurt to have somebody, have a quick look at it. You know, what I like to tell people, Dr. Steve, if you think it's, you think it's, you're

is broken. Sometimes if you'll just, if you'll squeeze, not where the redness of the swelling is, but I identify where the bone is, you can actually squeeze away from where you think it's broken. And if that triggers a really sensitive spot, sometimes it means there is breaking and the bones are shifting. And they're moving. And they're moving slightly. And that can cause a lot of pain. That's what causes the most pain when you've got a fracture is the motion. And when they you know, if they put a rod in there, you think, oh gosh, it's going to really hurt. There's a dang rod going down the middle of my bone but when it stops the rubbing of the of the pieces together it stops hurting so much it's amazing yeah it's it's really an

incredible thing so yes you can have full range of motion um with a with a broken bone yeah yeah go check it out think a walk-in clinics but the pain would kind of keep you from moving it which is what they don't want you to do right you don't want to move well yeah depending on depending on the kind of fracture you know how severe it is yeah like dr see was saying if it's a you know a hairline or green stick fracture if it's of the arm range of motion isn't going to be as important to not do as if it were in the foot so if you have you said if you got a you know a fracture in your foot and you start low you know walking and you keep putting all that extra it'll break it and make it even worse is uh love it in the um chat room she is yeah okay so patty

I'll appreciate this I used to give talks well I still do but I when I have given talks about pain management in the outpatient setting. You know, we always tell people, we're telling you this so that you'll do it safely, not so that you won't ever treat pain because we've got people saying, why don't never treat pain? And it's like, well, why don't you just say

I'm not going to treat diabetes or high blood pressure then? But there's this thing called the World Health Organization, analgesic ladder. And the analgesic ladder starts with, you know, step one has non-opioid analgesics in it like Tylenol, acetaminophen, ibuprofen, aka Motrin, and stuff like that.

Naprosin, which is, you know, neproxin. And then step two would be the things like Tylenol with codeine, hydrocodone with acetaminopin, aka Lortab or Norco, or oxycodone with acetaminephine, aka oxy, I'm sorry, Percocet. And then step three would be the strong opioids, morphine, hydromorphone, also known as Deloaded, those kinds of things. Now, the problem with this metaphor is it was intended to just stratify different

analgesics, but when you have a ladder metaphor, how do you work a ladder? You put your first, you put your foot on the first rung, then you go to the second rung and then you go to the third rung to work your way up the ladder right so what the state of tennessee at one time was saying was well you got to start with with um stage stage one and then go to stage two and then go to stage three and i was like you know what if if i'm in your emergency room and i've got a bone sticking out of my leg and you come at me and say well we're going to start with stage one and if that i'm going to i'm going to sue you so you so you so go straight to step three.

It's totally fine. And so much misunderstanding out there. And the World Health Organization, I'm not a huge fan after how they handled some stuff with COVID-19 anyway. And I was not a fan before this because of the way that it's just a really unfortunate metaphor that they used to classify opioids. Okay. You know, just call them class one, class two, class three. And don't, you don't have to have a, ooh, a ladder. It's, you know, it was somebody, someone's project and they're all proud of it.

And it just pisses me off every time I see it. But anyway, all right. We got, we, I got criticized last week because someone said that, oh, you were going way off the range, Dr. Steve. Dr. Scott had to rein you in. And I sent them back. I said, if Dr. Scott has to keep me straight, I really must have been pretty effed up. So anyway. Well, what did you go off the range about it?

I don't know. You know, I go down on these tangents all the time, but I just talk about things that I find interesting. Thank God Dr. Scott's here. I know. That's what I said. I'm sure. It was probably the UFO thing.

Yeah, or, you know, Star Trek or something. Yeah, and Tacey just zones out. She was napping. Back on track, how boy. Get back on Facebook. All right. Check it out. All right.

You want to do some questions? Let's do some questions. Okay. Let's not do too many. It's a hundred degrees. Hey, Matt. Good. How are you?

Doing good. Good. Good, good, good. So, they've got this article from neuroscience news. It says a synthetic embryo with a brain and a beating heart grown from stem cells. Oh. Thoughts on that. Can somebody Google that to see if that's real?

So look for embryo grown from stem cell. So what I think about this is everyone should go really. read Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, because that's exactly what that was about, where they were growing, they had basically gotten rid of sexual reproduction between humans, and they were growing people in test tubes for different things. Like if you were going in space, they grew them in the embryos in jars that were like rotating around and stuff like that, and they could do different things to make people. more suited to the role that they had decided they would have after they were born, before they were born. While they were in this jar, they'd say, okay, we need a bunch of laborers,

so let's go ahead and we'll give them big muscles, and we need a bunch of intellectuals. We'll give them big brains and stuff like that. These people are going to have to go to space. What did you find, Taze? Researchers from the University of Cambridge have created model embryos from mouse stem cells that form a brain,

a beating heart and the foundations of all the other organs to the body. Okay. So what they're doing is they're doing stem cell research saying, hey, we could do this. We could grow some things from this, but they're killing those embryos before

they get too far. But there's going to be some dang nut. You know, Island of Dr. Moreau type that's going to just go ahead and take it all the way to its logical conclusion and make a human out of that or a pig egg or something that there was no sperm, no egg, no nothing, just a stem cell.

And that will be very interesting ethically, because we won't be able to stop it. We'll say, oh, we won't do that. And we'll sign a bunch of treaties that were, oh, we're not going to create artificial humans this way. Parthenogenic humans, which is what they would basically be. And or asexually reproduced humans. And we'll sign these treaties. That doesn't go stop somebody in a lab from doing it. anyway, you know?

No. So, you know, once they figure out how to do it, the cat's out of the bag. So we'll talk about the ethics of it if we get a little bit closer to this. All right. Let's see this one. Hi, Dr. Steve. I listened. I found your radio station on Sirius.

And I wasn't paying very much attention. Of course. Nobody does. I heard someone call in about a supplement that they, they started taking from your show that helped with cancer. And so I don't know how else to get a hold of you. I'm going to continue looking online. Okay.

Does anybody remember what she's talking about? No. I don't either. But I did find something interesting recently that there's some data on frankincense. Have you seen this? Yes, I have. And the data is actually not bad. It's not good.

I want prospective double-blind placebo-controlled trial on frankincense. But I'll tell you, if I get diagnosed with colon cancer, hell, I might take a little frankincense. Yeah, what's not going to hurt? I didn't see any downsides to it. No. Yeah, frankincense is used for years to treat a bunch of stuff, and they have seen some, you know, clinical stuff where it might help with a different kind of cancer, specifically with colon cancers. Yeah. It's, you know, pretty incredible, incredibly strong.

medicine but I'm not real sure what she's talking about it does not ring it okay here we go this is from MUSC that says medical university of South Carolina not a crap university cancer surgeon researcher Nancy Demore is leading a clinical trial using frankincense to try to treat breast and colon cancer at MUSC so she's done extensive research on new treatments for breast cancer was will to put this to the test after she had a, I guess it was a postdoc that

researched frankincense as a treatment of breast cancer as an undergraduate student. That was Ingrid Bonilla. And they said that this stuff called boswellic acid extract from Indian frankincense may help patients by reducing

inflammation. So, inflammation is certainly involved in cancer. There's no question about that. As a matter of fact, breast cancer, you can have have a type of breast cancer called inflammatory breast cancer that's really, really angry. Those are usually people that are young with very active immune systems. So their study is a window of opportunity trial that takes advantage of the window of time between initial diagnosis of breast or colon cancer and surgery to remove the cancer.

They will take this Boswellia while waiting for surgery. I guess Bozwelli is the – it's the scientific name, I think. scientific name for frankincense right i take boswellie every day do you i sure do really i sure to take boswellia every morning why arthritis yeah oh for arthritis because it's anti-inflammatory why not turmeric why don't you do that i do that as well huh hey i'll do anything well they say here frankincense would not be the only plant-based treatment for illness no shit about everything we have it was originally plant-based opioids uh dejoxon mushrooms yeah that's right yeah so anyway Yeah, okay, so I'll be interested in finding that, seeing the research on that.

We could go to clinical trials.org and see if there's any already published research. I know that there is some, and you could go, and just to remind everybody, you can search the whole of the medical literature. It's totally free by going to PubMed.gov. That's P-U-B-M-E-D.gov, and people go, oh, I ain't going to know government website. No, it's just the National Library of Science. It's where all the research is. The government isn't one of the places where they're not curating anything in there and shadow banning things.

All research that's been published that has an agreement with PubMed goes there. It's just National Library of Science. But anyway, that's a place where your tax dollars are actually going to do some good. But you can research this stuff. You could put in Frankencense colon cancer and see if you could find a double-blind placebo-controlled study there. And I'm hoping that that's what Scott's doing right now. So anyway, very interesting. If you knew how to spell frankincense.

I was talking about Boswalia. As Frankenstein came up. Hey, Dr. Steve, it's Andrew from Pennsylvania. How are you? Good, man. How are you? Good, good. Oh, good.

Dr. Steve, I have a question about clinical vaccine trials. Yes. I enrolled in a phase 3, double-blind, placebo-controlled study of a Lyme disease vaccine by Pfizer. Interesting. Okay. So will you look up the Pfizer? That was one of my topics today. Oh, really?

Yeah, was the Pfizer-Lyme disease? Well, you see what kind of vaccine is it? Since it's Pfizer, I wonder if it's an MRNA vaccine. I know I have a 50-50 chance of getting the placebo or the medication. My question is, has anyone studied? if the placebo injection of saline results in similar arm soreness. Give yourself a bill. My injection site, arm pain felt much like other vaccines,

but I don't know if that could be the placebo effect or not. Yeah, so this is a great question. And when I was in- We had that same question. Yeah, when I was in the fiber. That's right. Diane and I were in the Pfizer trial at the same time. And in that one, I asked them.

I said, what's the placebo in this? And they said, oh, it's saline. I went, okay, well, then I know I got the vaccine because it caused pain that saline wouldn't do. But some of the other vaccine trials, they'll actually use things like, oh, what was it? They used a different vaccine for the placebo. And I can't remember. Oh, shit. Well, anyway, yes, they take that into consideration.

They'll use something that will cause inflammation to as their placebo. and to so that people can't tell which one they got. So can he ask? You can ask. They don't have to tell you. Okay. Because you sign a thing that says that you're going to participate in a double-blind placebo-controlled trial and that you're not going to try to unblind it before it's time.

Now, if they, in our case, when the vaccine actually hit the market, the trial was, was still going on. But what if you had gotten the placebo? You were like effed, right? You're hanging, yeah. So what they did was they unblinded it at that point. And if you got the placebo, they called you in to get the vaccine. And then what they did was a post-marketing trial after that.

What's called a phase four trial, where you look for adverse effects and good effects, efficacy past the point that the drug or the vaccine hits the market. So anyway, that's what they did with that. So did you find out anything? What kind of vaccine is it? Is it a traditional vaccine or is an MRNA? I haven't found that part, but what it did found, which was interesting, was the fact that this actually works.

It's three doses and a booster. But the tick, when it first latches onto you, it goes up, this vaccine goes up in of the tick and works on the tick. What? And this, yes, and this allows them being able to put the bacteria into you. What? That's what I just read. Okay, well, isn't that interesting?

Okay. It's totally different. So I'm reading here that it is a antigen type. It's not an MRNA. Okay. Yeah, so it says the randomized placebo-controlled phase three Valor study is planned to enroll approximately 6,000 participants, five years of age and old. Damn.

Wow. Data from phase two studies continues to demonstrate strong immunogenicity in adults as well as children with acceptable safety and tolerability profiles in both study populations. But, of course, phase two studies are very small. So you've got to do the phase three study to tease out those rare adverse effects. So that's very interesting. All right. Good. Oh, I would love to take a damn Lyme disease vaccine.

It's in all 50 states now, or at least the 48 that I'm aware of. Did you know that they had a Lyme's disease vaccine back in years ago and discontinued it in 2002? Really? Why? What happened? Well, it was 80%. It reduced infections by 80%. But the complaints of arthritis and other adverse effects is why they had to stop it.

It was called Limericks. Oh, really? I'd never seen it before. That's what I found. There are 476,000 people in the United States and 130,000 people in Europe get Lyme disease every year. We see it every day. We see some of their limes. What's a symptom of Lyme disease?

Fever. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, the chronic part is aches and pains and fatigue. I mean, terrible, you know, systemic muscle aches, bony aches, arthritis type of pains. When it starts, there's an expanding lacy. I've seen this dozens of times when I was in Vermont. expanding red rash that gets bigger and bigger and bigger

and that just fades away. It's called erythema migrains. And then they get fatigue, fever, headache, stiff neck, joint pains, muscle pains. And then people don't, if they miss the rash, they completely miss it. And then it goes away. Yeah, I was going to say,

it sounds like every other illness. Right, that's right. And so people just don't treat it if they don't notice the tick or they don't notice the rash. and if you don't treat it, what happens is it goes into this latent phase and then it comes back and it causes arthritis, carditis. It can, in other words, inflammation of the heart and neuritis, inflammation of the nervous system.

And so that's why we really would like to have a vaccine to prevent that phase three Lyme disease. Now, what other disease do we know causes a skin syndrome that, that then goes away and then comes back and kicks your ass later. Anybody know? Anybody in the waiting room? No, we've got too much of a delay. Yeah, I'm sorry. Cephalis.

So syphilis starts as a shanker, which is a skin lesion, that divides and divides and divides. It's painless, and then it goes away. And you go, oh, I guess I'm okay. And then it comes back as, you know, stage three syphilis, which can invade the brain. and nervous system and stuff like that called Tabis dorsalis and it can cause psychosis and all kinds of bad problems and it's often fatal so you don't want to miss that one either and we don't see

a lot of syphilis these days but it's easy to treat if you catch it in the primary face same with Lyme disease and the two bacteria are related they're they're both spiral sort of bacteria so all right before we go you got another question Scott Yeah, Mark Fletcher's got a great question. Okay, hello, Mark. Hello, Mark. Hope you're having a great day. Hey, so I had an endoscopy last week diagnosed with gastritis.

Yes. Apparently, stress-induced. Yes. How does stress cause gastritis? Oh, isn't that something? That's a good question. So you can't separate the mind from the body. Exactly.

And when you are under stress, you produce stress hormones. And these stress hormones can increase the amount of acid that is produced in the stomach. Tacey, you've got some information on this, right? Nope. Nope. Okay. Scott, you have some information.

I have lots of information. Yeah, talk about it. Where to begin? 50 years ago, I started having stress in my life. I'll try to talk it into the microphone so somebody can hear you. So the way I describe it is we all have places in our body that have weaknesses and stress tends to really the accelerators weaknesses. Some people have headaches.

Some people have neck and shoulder pain. Some people have gastritis, which is inflammation of stomach lining. And what happens is with all the stress, a lot of times extra, as you said, the stress hormones are produced. And a lot of times extra acids dumped into your stomach. Yeah. And subsequently, you know what else happens to with stress is you decrease the amount of protective lining stuff, prostaglandins, mucus and stuff to the inside of the stomach, which makes it even more susceptible to that. Yeah, and it's vital that you get it treated for a number of reasons.

You don't want to, to one, of creating a barrett's esophagus, which is the inflammation of the esophagus. The esophagus. Hence the name. The name. And you certainly don't want to developing stomach ulcers, which is what I did because I'm an overachiever. So, you know, gastritis is a real thing. And one of the ways, Dr. Steve, we can tell people.

And gastritis just simply means inflammation of the stomach. And we can typically we can kind of guess if they've got a stomach ulcer or gastritis based on when they're pain. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. So real quick, if you have pain immediately when you eat or almost immediately with eat, that's typically gastritis because the stomach gets really irritated. Usually if you eat and it makes your stomach feel a little bit better, typically that's an ulcer. And conversely, if you don't eat, the extra acid in there is not absorbed by the food can make your ulcers worse.

So that's the way I was trained. You may be different. Okay. That's how it makes sense. But if you can, but as soon as that food hits that stomach, if it just blows you up, it's like, oh, my, and some people don't want to eat. Yeah. When they have gastritis because it causes an intense pain. We've got a kid like that. Yeah.

So what do they do for that? We treat it. With medicine or just herbs? Or do you just eat certain things? Stress reduction. Meditation, stress reduction. Using the Trip app, T-R-I-P-P-com. If you have an oculus, throw that thing on it.

It's clinically basically proven to decrease your stress level, at least temporarily. I don't have any data on it reducing gastritis, but can't hurt. Yeah, can't hurt. And then we treat, you know, since excess acid is a problem, you can treat people with acid. reducers, either the H2 blockers like Fomodidine or proton pump inhibitors, because hydrochloric acid is basically just a naked proton with a chloride ion attached to it or paired with it. And so a proton pump inhibitor, if you decrease the amount of protons being pumped into the lumen of the stomach, you'll decrease the acid by definition.

I found a deep dive here as far as the pathophysiology of gastritis that's caused by stress. Stress results in the release of a thing called angiotensin 2, which decreases blood flow to the mucous membrane. And that causes reactive oxygen species formation, which attacks DNA and results in 8 hydroxy-deoxy-guanocene formation. That's 8-O-H-D-G for those who, you know, who are. already know that. This results in oxidative mutagenic byproduct and subsequently oxidative stress on the mucous membrane. On the other hand, naturally produced nitric oxide is believed to protect against stress gastritis because it

promotes vasodilation or opening of the blood vessels, which would increase blood flow, which would increase repair. So that's how they would describe this in the medical literature. Not that What you need to know is stress bad, not stress good. It's treatable. But gastritis better than ulcers. And ulcers, obviously, better than pre-cancerous lesions, et cetera, et cetera. So on the spectrum of things wrong with your stomach, I'll take gastritis because it's the easiest to treat.

You don't want people afraid to eat, though. No, no, no. And you don't want people afraid to go to the doctor or their health care provider to do. deal with this. Oh, yeah, of course. No, no, totally. That's a real, yeah, it's something to stick with. Get an Oculus. Oculus Quest, I guess it's called

MetaQuest now, and get that Trip app. That is the thing. And they've got a free demo that you can download. And even if you don't have stress induced gastritis, this thing is awesome. It's amazing. It takes you to another world

and you just float and it's like being in sensory deprivation and the president of The company reads the meditations to you. Diane, you've done this, right? No, I've just done TM. I've not done this oculus. I thought she did.

Well, Tacey, you've done it. Yes, and it knocked Bobby Kelly out. It did, yeah, Bobby. About 30 seconds. It's true. He was sitting on the thing, and apparently he was exhausted, and he put that thing on it. It put him right to sleep. Funny.

Ooh, I need that. The first time I did it, they had a bug in it, which they've subsequently fixed. But I got stuck because you rise up in the air. and then you go to this next breathing exercise and there's the light that tells you how to breathe and you can see your breath going in and out breathing in is blue beautiful sparkles and breathing out of these sort of red rusty sparkles

and you can see it coming out of you it's amazing and then the last level you rise up and you're above the earth and you're looking down and there you know the music it's kind of that spa music with the binoral beats that's supposed to induce a trance-like state. And then they're talking about

look below, there's no boundaries, there's no borders, all this stuff. And it's all very peaceful and hippified. But it's amazing. And then, but when I did it the first time, I got stuck. This is how I ended up working with them some because I got stuck between the second layer

and the third. And I thought that was what it was supposed to be. I was there for like 30 minutes and I fell asleep, and I was just sort of looking at this weird horizon with the music going and all this stuff. And I emailed customer support and said, was that supposed to happen that way? And I got the president of the company emailed me back. And I was saying, wow, that doesn't you.

Wow. So, yeah, it was cool. So anyway, trip's amazing. Before we go, real quick, gastritis, inflammatory things like inseds specifically Advilates. Oh, absolutely. That was a blow your stomach up. So if you're taking a nose, find another way. Really, if you're on aspirin, and I learned this from Tacey,

if you're on aspirin to prevent heart attack and you're taking a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug like ibuprofen, you're actually considered high risk for GI bleeding. And you should be on a proton pump inhibitor at minimum to protect yourself from GI bleeding. But you should be talking to your primary care provider. Steve, haven't they? decided that you shouldn't be taking baby aspirin for heart attack prevention. Well, it depends. The USPSTF keeps changing it.

They keep changing it all the time. And now they're saying if the benefit outweighs the risk of stroke, then you can go ahead and take it for LMEC primary prevention. Let me look this up. I'm going to cut this part out. Okay, aspirin for primary prevention. Here we go. So this is their newest thing.

Aspirin used to prevent cardiovascular disease. This is from the USPSTF, which is the U.S. Preventative Services Task Force. And so they're now saying adults aged 40 to 59 with a 10% or greater 10-year cardiovascular risk. So you have to do that Framingham calculator that we've done. If you don't know what we're talking about, just Google Framingham. calculator and you have to punch in some numbers including your cholesterol. If you don't know what your cholesterol is, you're probably overdue to see your primary care. Go get enough things to plug that in and see what your risk is.

And it says if you have a 10% or greater risk and you're under the age of 60, the decision to initiate low-dose aspirin use should be an individual one. Evidence indicates that the net benefit of aspirin use in this group is small, but it's non-zero. Persons who are not at increased risk for bleeding and are willing to take low-dose aspirin daily are more likely to benefit. That is grade C evidence.

It's not good. Adults age 60 years or older, they recommend against initiating low-dose aspirin use for the primary prevention of cardiovascular disease in adults 60 or older. So there you go. So I guess now I need to stop my aspirin again because they keep changing this.

you know this this was a new recommendation as of April I guess I missed that so I'm glad you brought that up I thought I read that too thank you give yourself a bill all right actually I knew that I just wanted you guys to seem smart thanks Steve you're the best all right thanks always go to dr. Scott and to lady diagnosis welcome back thanks for being here and to Tacey and don't forget to go to go to our Reddit or subreddit and vote for who had the most disgusting story. Remember the bugs crawling out of the jar? Yes.

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