Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 530 - Ebony Mystique

Episode Date: November 13, 2022

Dr Steve, Dr Scott, Tacie and PA Lydia discuss breast augmentation with adult film star Ebony Mystique! We had a bad connection but part II will be coming up soon! Also: non-genital orgasms sperm do...nation after death differences in pain tolerance substance P do "gingers" perceive pain differently? nociceptive vs neuropathic pain Jerusalem syndrom D.O. vs M.D.? Chalazion removal (video example) Dr Steve's most infuriating experience as a patient Please visit: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) simplyherbals.net  (now with NO !vermect!n!) (JUST KIDDING, Podcast app overlords! Sheesh!) roadie.doctorsteve.com (the greatest gift for a guitarist or bassist! The robotic tuner!) Weird Medicine: The Podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/medicine (Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self!) Also don't forget: Cameo.com/weirdmedicine (Book your old pal right now while he’s still cheap! "FLUID!") noom.doctorsteve.com (the link still works! Lose weight now before swimsuit season is over!) Most importantly! CHECK US OUT ON PATREON!  ALL NEW CONTENT! Robert Kelly, Mark Normand, mystery guests! Stuff you will never hear on the main show ;-) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:06:09 All right. And that's about it. You got anything else? All right, very good. So anyone who's been listening for a while knows that PA Lydia forgot got to grow boobs in school, and she did everything else, got straight A's and stuff, but that was one of the things she forgot to do. And she is considering, after having a kid and now kicking, you know, a guy to the curb, getting, you know, breast in augmentation. And we've had different people on.
Starting point is 00:06:40 We had a lady diagnosis on. And we were going to have my other friend who had the Asia Syndrome, but we talked about it instead. But today, as promised, we have Ebony Mystique. And you can follow her on Instagram at the official Ebony Mystique. And on Twitter at Ebony Mystique One, she has her own podcast, Ebony Mystique TV. You can enjoy it on YouTube. And she started her career being a nurse. And then she is now an adult movie actress and celebrity fashion designer.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And Ebony Mystique, thanks for being on the show. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Well, it is a true pleasure. One of the things, I'm looking at a photograph of you, and by the way, you are quite lovely and delightful. And Lainey Spizer, your publicist, sent me your measurements. It's your 36 triple D.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Now, I must be just terrible at estimating this. I would have guessed you were much larger than that. So you must be small and stand. I'm surprised. I would have thought, I would have guessed, like, 42G or something, but I'm a guy. What do I know? Close enough. You know, it's funny when I first decided to do the enhancement, I didn't want to go so big, but actually my plastic surgeons recommended that if you're here, you might as well go bigger, go home. So we went ahead and put Cedar for these in. Yeah, sure. I've seen that on some of these plastic surgeons. shows, and I've seen it in real life, I mean, I actually am a
Starting point is 00:08:22 practicing physician in real life and have had some experience with this, where women will get one size and then decide that they want to go bigger and they keep getting bigger and bigger. And that actually causes some problems. So you should probably go for the size that you want right off the bat.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That's good to know, because my third time was the term, that's when I went this big. So I wish I knew you didn't have. Well, and you were a nurse before, right? I mean, that's what I read that in your bio. I actually did not know that before. So how long were you practicing nurse? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah, I was a critical care nurse for about 13 years. And then I decided my last year in the field to do advice nursing. And then here we are. Wow. Yeah, I bet those guys saw you coming in the ICU. you when they either got better or they just died at a heart attack. Well, listen. Of course, these triple deeds wouldn't work in that field.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Oh, no. No, they would work just fine. But anyway. So, P.A. Lydia, she is a physician assistant. And she, did I say it at the beginning? Yeah, forgot to grow boobs. Yeah, yes, yeah, right. She loves it when I say that.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Or she never learned how. And so she's thinking about augmentation. And we had some folks on earlier, a lady diagnosis was on, and then we had another lady that was going to be on. And that, you know, she actually didn't show up, but we talked about the complications that she had. And Lydia's got some questions for you. So I wanted to kind of go from small to medium to, you know, perfect.
Starting point is 00:10:13 The eye of the beholder So anyway, take it away, P.A. Yeah, hello, Ms. Ebony. Hello, how are you? I'm great. It's so nice to speak with you. So I think the big question I have from being for 33 years now in the small boob club is some of the negatives that I should like think about and figure out whether they're worth it or not. So my first question to you is do you have the back pain that people talk about?
Starting point is 00:10:46 Or do you just work out and prevent it? What's your take on that? You went out. I'm sorry. I didn't get the last. I didn't get the question. She was asking about back pain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Do you have back pain from your large breasts? Oh, back pain. You know, actually they're really comfortable. And initially, you know, just with the body trying to get used to a foreign object and it made so bag. I think I did experience a little pain. But now I'm doing great. Okay. Did you get your, do you still, can I ask you if you still have your nipple sensation? I do. I have a nipple sensation. I didn't lose that at all. And, you know, the main thing is the support. Like, when you go this big, you should, like, wear some type of supportive bra or something like that, for sure.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Okay. And when they, when they did it, did they go, like, under your pectoralis muscle or did you go on top? How did that work out? Yeah, they went right through the ariola, and then they kind of closed it back up through there, and I was able to get a really good, nice shape afterwards. No kidding. I was really happy. I just followed the surgeons guidelines. That's cool. So they, like, made the incision around your ariola and put it all in? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Okay. How long was your recovery? Like, how long were you, like, unable to lift stuff? Like, I have a two-year-old. I would say one or two weeks was kind of hard. The first two days are the worst, and it gets better after that. But after two weeks, you get back to some sort of activity, just not too tenuous. They kind of recommend like four weeks, so it's best to kind of see how your body goes
Starting point is 00:12:28 and just really take your time and do as a doctor says, the surgeon, yeah. Okay. Now ask her the important stuff. What about, you know, unwanted attention from men? and can do you walk around hiding your body when you're in public
Starting point is 00:12:49 or you know do you accentuate it and let me go you know hell I paid for this take a look stretch your stuff I don't get much negative attention I mean I already do mainstream adult films
Starting point is 00:13:02 but outside I'm more modest I think the attention that I get either way is going to be somewhat sexual because of my job, but yeah, everything's been pretty, I've been pretty well-respected out in the community with people. I kind of dress more modestly, though,
Starting point is 00:13:21 when I'm talking about I don't really want negative attention, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, under. Yeah, I don't really like a lot of attention. Me neither. You are a liar, actress, go the fuck out. Uh-oh, Ebony, are you gone? Yeah, you guys and girls.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Well, I will be back, Dr. Stephen, where medicine is going to have me back on Skype so you actually can see these triple B boobs. Yes. And kind of get a face to this voice. I'll be back soon. I'm actually shooting for you guys today on my lovely fans and supporters for browsers. Okay, so yeah, so go ahead and get your plugs out, Mystique, and I mean, Ebony. And then we will definitely have you back because we are having some.
Starting point is 00:14:11 some real technical issues with your connection. Let's do it. I know they can see you on Brazzers. Whether they go to browsers.com. Yes, go to browsers.com to see my mainstream scenes. I'm an exclusive contract girl with them. And then, of course, you can follow me on Instagram, Ebony Mastika official, or my Twitter is Ebony Maseek-1, and you get all the goodies there.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I can't wait to talk to all of you guys. Okay. Hey, we'll do this again. I'm sorry about the technical stuff, but have a wonderful shoot, break a leg, or, you know, whatever you say when you're going to do a scene. Okay, thank you. And I'll be waiting for you soon so we can set up this type. Okay, I'll talk to Lainey about it. Okay, take care.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Okay, bye-bye. I know you're all just, you're very uncomfortable with all of this, but we do have another person. I would like to have Ebony back on it because she seems really cool. Yeah. And I was quite distracted looking. at her promotional photograph. I'm sure you were. Because she's
Starting point is 00:15:14 quite delightful. He is the biggest boob man you've ever met in your whole life. And it's not, I mean, look, I like the, and I haven't said this on the show in a long time because I've tried to be a little bit more whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:29 but it's the tit to gut ratio, that's the thing, you know. And we figured out one time, there's this thing called the Golden Mean. Have you ever heard of it? Okay, so it's a ratio. And the Greeks found that if you make buildings according to the golden ratio, which is 1.608 to 1, that they will have pleasing shape. And not only that, but the chambered nautilus has the area of the different chambers is in a ratio of 1.608 to when you start seeing the golden mean everywhere.
Starting point is 00:16:04 sunflowers use the golden mean to make that sort of interesting pattern of their of the seeds and stuff so you find the golden mean everywhere so I said well it would be fun to see if the golden mean applied you know to human proportions so if you have a okay so what's your what's your waist size it just makes something up you know it doesn't have to be real okay let's say yeah teeny but let's say it's 25 inch So then if the golden mean applied, then the chest size should be in that ratio of 1.608 to 1 and the waist as well. So let's figure out what somebody would be if they had a waist of 25 inches. Echo, what's 1.608 times 25? 1.608 times 25 is 40.2.2 is 40.2. There you go. 40, 25, 40 is perfect. 40 on the waist.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I mean, the hips, no, thanks. No, well, 40, 25, you know, 30 something would be perfect. So anyways. But so that, so it's all about that ratio. You could be a tiny little person with 32 bees, but if you're a tiny, you know, you've got a 21-inch waist, you know, it's perfect. So I'm not all about just giant boobs. You know, if you're weigh 800 pounds and you've got boobs hanging down your ankles, that's not going to be necessarily. The lady we just had on, her frame is so small.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yes. Yeah. And that's why her breasts look so big. That's why they look so big. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah. Yeah. I think if we saw her in real life, I didn't see how tall she is. I mean, a triple D on me is nothing. Well, she's 5.7. She's 5.7. Okay. That's my height.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Yeah. But her frame, though. I mean, her, she's got. Her frame and your frame are exactly the same. Yeah, that's exactly what you would look like. That's exactly what you'd look like if you went that bit. Ebony, Google image, Ebony, Ebony Mystique. There you go.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah, that's what you would look like. Yeah. Yeah, I think that looks like about the right size. He would. Yep. Sounds great. That might not go quite that big, but we'll be filing for divorce. Nothing scared, Steve more than the consultation I had getting my breast reductions.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Probably one of the worst days of his life Well, I wasn't, you know, I thought you were perfect the way you were But I did go in and I said here, here's a picture of Katie Perry's tits If you can do that That is an absolute lie What? No, I did. Yeah, I did. She's pretty large-breasted, didn't she? Yeah, but they're smaller than what Tacey's were?
Starting point is 00:18:56 I said, no, what are you talking about? I brought that in and I said, if you can do this, I'll be fine with it. said that to the surgeon during that consultation. I do not remember. I'm glad he was concerned about your health and well-being. No, I do not remember a picture of Katie Perry anyway. She was totally healthy. I know. I brought
Starting point is 00:19:13 in a picture of Katie Perry and her boobs. And I said, well, I'm not going to say it again. I mean, that's what I said to the guy. And he said, yeah, I can do that. Cool. He left a little extra. Now, the other fucking thing about that
Starting point is 00:19:27 whole thing was, you know, I'm, look, I would I got behind it. I wanted to do what you wanted to do. But what pissed me off is they told us to be there at five in the morning. And so I get her there at five. They take her back. And they say, well, we'll let you know when we're done.
Starting point is 00:19:43 So I read my book for a little bit. And then I fell asleep. And then I woke up, read my book for a little bit, fell asleep. Nine in the morning, they come out. And I'm like, okay, cool. And they go, oh, we're taking her back now. They hadn't even started. They just had you back in surgical holding for four frigging hours.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yeah, he was habitually late. Yeah. I didn't know that when I scheduled him. But what was cool was when you did have the arterial bleed
Starting point is 00:20:12 in your boob New Year's Eve and we're drunk A.F and she's got one breast is twice the size of the other one and it's like rock hard like that. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:24 He did show it. He came to the emergency room and took care of it. Now there's nothing more sexy than seeing a you know, your surgeon, open up your wife's chest wall and scooping out, you know, large clumps of current jelly and then sewing it back up. That was, that was awesome.
Starting point is 00:20:42 But good God. What a night. Yeah, that was a night. And I'm talking about how bad it was for me. I mean, it's, you know, she. Tacey's like, oh. Yeah, it was slightly worse for Tacey, I guess. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:57 But here we are. Yeah. But, yeah, now you're perfect. Yeah. Could use another one. We'll talk about that later. Yeah. We'll talk about that when I'm serving you papers.
Starting point is 00:21:10 So, yeah, so we'll have her back on. And then there is a fourth person that wants to talk to you that had some issues with what lady diagnosis said about her augmentation. And she wanted to just be the voice of reason for you. And then we'll have her on. and then you decide. And then whenever you do it, we can have the big unveiling here on the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I mean, hell, you've done... Just unveil it. Just show it. Actually, what... We'll see. I know it seems weird, but most women that I know that have had breast augmentation,
Starting point is 00:21:47 they're like, yeah, you want to see them. It's crazy. And I'm like, well, sure. Okay, if you mourn... Nah. There's a lot of that mortifies me slightly. Nah, I'm good. No, you don't have to show us anything.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I saw a friend of mine... I'll show Tasey. And in a, in a, store after my last visit with my doctor post-off and I saw her and I said let me go show them to you and I did because they were high and they were smaller high and pricier and she was like they look great of course they didn't because they were all red and bruised and purple and they got to show them to a woman you know like yeah every man I've ever showed him to is just disappointed oh I'm sure that's not true that's just that
Starting point is 00:22:30 It did not be further from the truth. I'll tell you what. That's not true. Stacey Deloche, who has been on this show before, he doesn't like boobs. And so, I mean, he likes them, but he likes them really small. So he's like, I know, I would tell her not to do anything. So there you go. So there are guys out there, obviously.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Well, you had a baby with one. That's where I think you've got to, like, toe the line. Right? Yeah, listen, there's somebody for everybody. Yeah. Even people that with, you know, A Cups. Even a cup. I'm just being an asshole.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I think I'm between A and B right now. At one time I was a B, but that was like 20 pounds ago. No, I had a girlfriend. Well, anyway, it doesn't, nobody cares. I had a girlfriend that had almost zero boobs, but I loved her, you know, and it didn't matter. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. It really doesn't.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah. If you care about the. If you're sweet and you're smart and you're kind, it really doesn't matter. Yeah. Well, maybe I should get on those things then. You got to work on the sweet thing. Those things are cheaper. They really are, and they're less painful.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Less painful. The harder, though, harder to be nice and sweet. It is. Yeah, that's true. It's easier to just strut around with big giant tits and everybody just agrees with you no matter what just because they want to, you know, be closer to you. Closer. Anyway, all right, well, good.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Well, thank you. Well, thank you. Well, yeah, you're welcome. Thank you for that effort. We put you in a position that you were not comfortable with, but, you know, what the hell? Good stuff. That's what we do with our guests. Yeah. A couple of things.
Starting point is 00:24:16 You all were going to bring a grotesque story today, and P.A. Lydia is nodding. And then you had something from your friends at the rescue project. Did you want to talk about that? Yeah, sure. So my partner, Harvey, is really good at ideas, really cool ideas, and I'm good at, like, doing work, right? So we're great partners. He sent you or ordered you something as a token of appreciation for your support of
Starting point is 00:24:46 Allied Extract in our humanitarian work. We were originally going to... Allied extract is where you were getting people out of Afghanistan. Yeah, we formed initially to get people out of Afghanistan. So I think 417 people were taken out of Afghanistan on behalf of U.S. government and CIA request, Johns Hopkins requests. Through you guys. Yeah, through us. And then you had all these crazy cell phones that you were communicating with people and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And I'm still getting them out. It's nuts. I'm still chatting with Afghans every day. So I think now we're at like 2,500 people. Wow. Oh, wow. So. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:24 The U.S. government has relied on volunteers. But now they've taken over, so that's good. Really? They have taken over. They are tracking all of the eligible people who can evacuate Afghanistan, and they're managing it. And I have not submitted another person. Really? Is that right?
Starting point is 00:25:40 And they're still getting out. Okay. So it's great. All right. It's a win. Okay, that is a win. And so now we've been in Ukraine since the Russian invasion, helping people get out of, like, those frontline Eastern areas.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Yeah. We've got some orphanages we support. We send in medical aid and humanitarian aid. We send stoves to troops, whatever is needed, right? Just aid. Anyway, Dr. Steve was a great supporter of Allied extract. So Harvey has ordered this for you. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So you can read the top. Okay. Made in Russia, recycled in you. Am I going to get on a list for this? I don't think so. Made in Russia, recycled in Ukraine. Never forgive, never forget. Wow, what is this thing?
Starting point is 00:26:24 What the hell is this? It's a piece of Russian tank that was blown up in Kyiv during the initial invasion of Russia. Oh, my goodness. And so if you scan the QR code, you can see the tank that this came from. You're kidding? That is crazy. Oh, okay, now I get it. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:26:43 That's pretty cool, right? Yeah, it's very unique. That's for sure. Wow. Yeah. So that's just north of Kiev during the initial invasion. So do you guys still need? Donations, we might as well plug Harvey's thing.
Starting point is 00:26:57 That's amazing. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Alliedextract.org. Okay. We were trying to shut down and we just couldn't do it. Yeah. There's still a need.
Starting point is 00:27:10 There'll always be a need to help refugees. Okay, well, good for you. Alliedextract.org and thank him very much for this. Absolutely. That's super cool. That is pretty sweet. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Good deal. Well, you guys want to take some medical. questions? Sure. Do it? Okay. Number one thing. Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. Okay. Well, this one, I don't know what this is. It's just the orgasms, and I figured it was apropos
Starting point is 00:27:36 to what we were talking about today. So let's see what this is. All right. This one might take a few minutes to get this question through, but kind of playing off of the female orgasm and squirting and things such as that. This is your buddy who likes the A-Cups, by the way.
Starting point is 00:27:53 the day called mean girls. Okay. Funny podcast. Anyway, one of the girls is talking about how she's learned that she can have an orgasm from her boyfriend manipulating and playing with her breasts. Okay. And then also thinking back that Stephen Hawkins, who's always been confined to a wheelchair, most of his life, had a very healthy and fun sex life according to his wife.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So all that being said, the female orgasm is. Is that physical stimulation, or is that more of a mental stimulation? Thank you. No, that's actually a really good question. And I have several things to say about this, but you guys can chime in on this. You know, orgasms can be induced without genital stimulation. No question about that. I knew a guy that didn't have any feeling from the waist down, and he could have what he claimed was an orgasm by somebody stroking his arm repeatedly.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And orgasms are spinal reflexes. They tend to be in the lower spine, but I guess, you know, the neurologic system is very plastic to up to a certain point, and it can reprogram itself. Now, the story I was going to tell about orgasms was the brain-dead guy that the wife wanted to have a baby with him before they took him off the ventilator because he was actually deceased. He had no brain activity, no blood flow going to the brain whatsoever. So she manipulated his genitalia, got an erection, and continued to manipulate until he ejaculated. She captured the sperm or the semen and was going to use it to do an artificial insemination so that she could have a baby with him. Now, that just goes to show you even brain dead guys can get an erection and complete the transaction. So I think a lot of women probably think most of us are brain dead anyway.
Starting point is 00:30:11 but you know well that's because you're an idiot but true story that can be done because it is a spinal reflex so what do you guys think about that but long been known people experience orgasms during sleep with no stimulation whatsoever or after exercise
Starting point is 00:30:36 but the exercise women who have it during exercise we hypothesize that that's because they're jiggling. Yeah, right, yeah, they're jiggling. They're either manipulating their genitalia with the bicycle seat or if they do it when they're jogging, because there are women that are trying to jog and they just start having orgasms, one after another, that their reproductive organs are just jumping up and down or whatever,
Starting point is 00:31:04 you know, and stimulating those nerves. So what do you guys think? Have you ever had an orgasm? in a non-genital stimulation way? I have. Yeah? Yeah, who said that? Tacey?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Let's hear it. Oh, no. Do you not want to... You just want to say that... No, it was a long, long time ago. You just want to say that it happened. And it did happen. Okay, it just did happen.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You want to say... From what? Just kissing. Really? Did it feel the same? Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, here's...
Starting point is 00:31:39 I'm looking at it. In a case report, a 33-year-old woman developed the ability to attain and control the duration of subjective orgasmic state without genital stimulation after, oh, Scott, you'll be interested in this, tantric training. Blood was taken at weekly intervals before, during, and after spontaneously induced orgasms that lasted five to ten minutes. Or after 10-minute period of book reading. Okay. Plasma was analyzed looking for luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone. These are pituitary hormones. Free testosterone and prolactin, which is also pituitary hormone. The woman also provided subjective score. So here's the results. Prolactin levels post-orgasm increased by 25% and 48% respectively after the five or 10-minute non-genitally stimulated orgasms. or NGSOs, and were still elevated from baseline 30 minutes after orgasm.
Starting point is 00:32:40 No changes were observed in FSA-trophy testosterone. And after, let me see, okay, the pattern of all of these things were similar to orgasms induced by clitoral or anal stimulation. Book reading did not result in any change in prolactin. So she wasn't bullshitting because you could just, you know. That was the control. Do, like, Harry, exactly right. You could do when Harry met Sally and just pretend to have an orgasm. And how would anybody know?
Starting point is 00:33:12 But you can't fake the changes in your pituitary hormones that are released during orgasms. That's pretty cool. I would have also had them check oxytocin levels. Mm-hmm. You know. But anyway, I think that's fascinating. I'm not sure I would want a 10-minute orgasm. I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Well, Tacey can tell you about 10-minute orgasm. She has those all the time, right? Oh, yeah. Probably be good exercise. I wonder how many calories are burned per organ? Not very many. That's an interesting thing that intercourse is very calorie efficient. And there's a reason for that.
Starting point is 00:33:48 When you are a starving hominid that's trying to run away, you know, or one of our ancestors, running away from saber-tooth tigers and you hardly have any food because you're a forager. Maybe you haven't learned to hunt yet. as a species and you need to and you're trying to have you know reproduce in between all these sessions of running away from saber tooth tigers you don't want to waste a lot of calories so it becomes very efficient even though it seems like oh we're sweating and we're doing all this stuff and we're we're out of breath and all those things after having a prolonged session of sexual
Starting point is 00:34:29 Congress. It actually doesn't use very many calories at all. Isn't that interesting? That's pretty wild. Here you go. Types of orgasms and how to have them. Let's see. What do you mean by types of orgasms? According to long-time sex educator, Sierra
Starting point is 00:34:50 Dasak, owner of Early Tibet, a pleasure product company in Chicago, so she's not biased. Not at all. Because the anatomical structures that can lead to orgasm are often intertwined and hard to distinguish. Someone might have an orgasm from
Starting point is 00:35:05 stimulating the front wall of the vagina, aka the G-spot. Well, now she just making up stuff. Or have an orgasm from stimulating the external portion of their clitoris. But ultimately, these orgasms all come from the same place. There's no science here. Lady, come on.
Starting point is 00:35:22 She's just selling toys and saying things. But anyway, all right. Okay. Well, that's impressive, kissing. Some kiss. Yeah. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:32 It's a long time ago. Yeah. Yep. I've never had that. Twert with me, I'll tell you that. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 00:35:44 My best sessions with Tacey were with her ultra ego named Tessinda. Ticinda comes out after about seven glasses of wine. Yes. And Tase, and I, you know. You know, I'm getting it on with Tessenda and, you know, all over the place, you know, on the couch and then on the floor and on top of the couch and then all this stuff. Don't remember it. And then the next day. And I'm like, damn, I did pretty damn good.
Starting point is 00:36:11 The next day she's got no recollection of it whatsoever. Why are my panties on the floor? Yeah. That's exactly what. That's how I knew. That's how I knew. She wakes up and she goes, why are my panties on the floor? And I'm like, God, damn it.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I was so good. Oh, yeah. But all I can do is just tell her. You know, oh, yeah, I was awesome. Okay, sure. Why wouldn't you say that? Yeah. Tessenda.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Tessenda. It's like Tawanda from Friede Tomato is only the sexualized version. Yeah. Well, Tacey has a friend who's been on this show before. And when she drinks, when she drinks, her alter ego is, well, her name is Wendy and her alter ego is foreign language, Wendy. Because she can't understand the thing she says. She's fun.
Starting point is 00:37:03 She's fun. Okay. Let me see. This one says how to pay for stuff. And then we're going to get to your gross questions. Hey, Dr. Steve. This is Brad.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I'm the guy that fell 23 feet. Called a few months back. Go to myself to the hospital. I was just wondering about me. Fell 23 feet. Oh, oh. I always think about pain a lot, especially since I'm sober. Never got into pain killers, but I was drinking.
Starting point is 00:37:25 But I was wondering, I know you probably answered this before I'm on one of your podcast, but if people feel pain differently. Yeah. Like, I feel like I have an extremely high tolerance for pain. But I also feel like as a blue collar guy, I've lived most of my life of it, and it just becomes normal. Yes, now, this is a real good point. Very true. I mean, I live with pain every day.
Starting point is 00:37:48 It doesn't affect my quality of life. You know, every once in a while, maybe, but really not to any great extent. I still do all the things I'd like to do. And, yeah, you know what? Because my back is so effed up, I don't have to jog anymore. So it's actually a plus in that regard. But I know people, and the thing is, if I could feel their pain, then it would be my pain, right? It wouldn't be their pain anymore.
Starting point is 00:38:13 So this is a, you know, this is a philosophical question that has been bandied about by philosophers for ages about pain. But I have seen people whose backs aren't as effed up as mine who are completely disabled. Yes. Now, is it because their syndrome is different, or do they just have a different tolerance for pain than I do? You know, so that's kind of what he's getting at. So let's see where he goes with this. Just need higher and higher amounts of pain before you start feeling something.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. This could go for emotional abuse also. Yes, I agree. I agree. But, yeah, I was just wondering if you just get more and more across from the pain. Well, Scott can talk about this. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:58 We could talk a little bit about depleting substance pee and stuff like that, and we'll get to that. But go ahead, Scott. You're the pain expert. Yeah, I don't even know where to start with this question. So I would say, yes, certainly the more pain you've had in your life, typically the better you tolerate pain. And when we start looking at, you know, people,
Starting point is 00:39:18 those backs, like your backs, as you said. You know, sometimes we'll look at images of a lower back. You know, it just looks awful. Yeah. I mean, just a train wreck. Right. And you look at this person, you say, how in the world are you even walking? Much less kind of being normal, you know, normal bladder function and normal bowel functions of this era.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And then we'll see, you know, someone who you look at an image and it's like, there's nothing there's nothing there. And they're just miserable. And there's so many factors. history is one. You know, you've seen the reports where red-edded people tend to have less pain tolerance. Oh, really? Yeah, I have seen that. No, I thought it was more.
Starting point is 00:39:58 No less, you know, much lower levels of pain. And then, you know, the other thing, Dr. Steve, is our long-term use of opiates. And sometimes when people have, and one of the thing I hate to see in my office is someone who's been on heavier doses of opiates. for years, they tend to develop this thing called hyperalgesia. Yes. So they're much, they have a much, much greater reaction to pain than what we would think would be normal. So hyperalgesia is an increased sensitivity to feeling pain.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And then you have an extreme response to pain. And that can actually be caused by pain medication. Yes, it is. There is a thing called opioid-induced hyperalgesia, where the more stuff that you put people on, actually the worst that their response to pain is. And I'm going to give Dr. Scott a bell. Give yourself a bill. Research has shown that people with red hair perceive pain differently than others.
Starting point is 00:40:57 They may be more sensitive to certain types of pain and require higher doses of some pain-killing medications. Now, however, I'm going to give PA Lydia a bell, too. Give yourself a bill. Studies suggest that their general pain tolerance may be higher, so you're were both right. Ha! So there you go.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Hi-five. As a ginger. Yes, as a ginger. I do notice. Do you notice that? Oh, absolutely. My friend and I talk about, like, what is pain? Like, what is even pain that people get?
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah. I, like, cracked some ribs one time, and it was quite painful, but, like, the question is, like, when do you take pain medicine? Right. So I could tolerate it. On the flip side, I was having an emergency C-section, and they kept giving me anesthesia, giving me anesthesia, like, to block it. And I guess kept telling them I could feel everything. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:48 So they ended up having to intubate me. Really? Because they could not get it. Yeah, they put me under general because they could not, they like cut through and I'm like, I can feel it. And they go into the muscle. I'm like, then I start screaming. And I will give the ex a bill because I remember him saying, she's really quite stoic.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Like she's not a screamer. she's really quite stoic. Yeah. Yeah. So then they put in general. Yeah, I could feel it. Really hurt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So definitely we require more in it like, you know, if you're going to do sutures, something like that, more lydicane or. Interesting. Yeah, that's kind of great. And I've seen that in practice for sure. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, I know if you have pain is such a complicated thing.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And, you know, I'm like you, Dr. Steve, I tell people, whatever you do, just don't compare your pain to anybody else's. Right. It's yours. And if you say it hurts, then it does hurt. Yeah. And let's try to figure out. what we can do to make it not so awful yeah and uh i mean pain really is just the
Starting point is 00:42:49 body's system of alerting the brain that there's something wrong right and part of the problem is is that there is neuropathic pain too that where the pain of damaged nerves and pa lydia induces this in people every day with chemotherapy and stuff and diabetes diabetics have it as well and that's a non-functional pain because that pain is just telling the body that the nerves are damaged. It's not really preventing it. Move your hand away from a fire. That's right. Because no susceptible pain is a normal, you know, pain that keeps you from putting your hand, when you're little, putting your hand on the stove twice.
Starting point is 00:43:29 You might do it once, but you won't do it twice. That's no susceptible pain. And then, of course, there's visceral pain that's just pain from organ, organ stuff. And which really, when we were, before we developed surgery, what was the purpose of that other than to tell you you're going to die, you know? Bye-bye. Yeah. It's kind of sucks.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Yeah. And that's the truth, it's like you think back in time, you think, God, living with, you know, like an acute appendicitis, how long were you going to live? Well, some people did probably live. Oh, yeah. And they probably did, yeah. You know, but, yeah, there was, that's one of the advances in modern medicine that's, really made a difference.
Starting point is 00:44:10 You know, the biggest leap in lifespan was sanitation. Right. And separating our stool from our drinking water. And when we did that, then we went from living 35 years to, you know, whatever. And then it's been incremental since then. And a lot of the stuff we do in modern medicine is lifestyle stuff. So when you get an appendicitis, you can go in and take your appendix out, you don't die a horrible, painful death anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:38 It may add real quick to this paint store because I loved on my paint, but years ago we went to see in New York City in Manhattan. In the museum there, they had a photo tribute to the Civil War. So all these pictures in the Civil War, and they had all these soldiers standing there. And, like, you know, one would be standing there on a crutch and his legs been cut off. And then they've got another one, you know, biting on a belt
Starting point is 00:45:03 and they're sawing his leg off and actually pictures of this. It's like, God. I have people come in. I say, what's your pain today? And they'll say, oh, it's a 10. And I say, okay, let's recalibrate this a little bit. You seem rather calm. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah, a 10 is you're in the Civil War. You got hit by a musket. And I am now sawing your leg off without anesthesia with a rusty saw. That's a 10. And they're pouring alcohol to sleep. Oh, my God. You have all the pain. And then cauterize it.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Oh, my God. That's a 10. So on a scale of one, a 10, with that. That being a 10, what are you, but a four. Yeah, exactly. So it just, you know, you've got to get the scale calibrated. That's all. Do you calibrate the scale?
Starting point is 00:45:49 I don't bother calibrating the scale with people. I do for that kind of thing. When I've got somebody just who walks in and sits down and says my pain's at 10. Well, I just, I want us to be on the same page so that if I write a 10 down and someone comes in later and goes, well, this person's a 10 and they didn't, you know, they gave them lore tab. fives or something, that seems pretty heartless. But if you recalibrate it, you know, with that being a 10 so that we all agree, that's a 10, then, you know, it just makes it a little bit easier for us to compare what we're doing with each other.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I think that's wise. The notes in the chart are really for the next person to read, but, or the attorney, unfortunately. Let's talk a little bit about extinction of pain, though. Substance P, you want to talk about it a little bit? You deal with substance P, right? Yes. Or am I putting me on the spot?
Starting point is 00:46:44 Well, a little bit on the spot. So with the acupuncture, we work on both the peripheral and the end of central nervous system as far as pain control. Yeah. So you've got peripheral nerves that are stimulated. And typically, if you're going to take an oral medication, an Advil, Tylenol, aspirins, those things help with the peripheral nervous system and affecting the substance P and how that's transmitted, right? But the electric acupuncture actually stimulates the endogenous opioids in the brain. The mu-opioids stimulating hormones. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:14 So they're like opioids, right. You said that. Similarly, yeah. So, you know, one of the things I love about what I do is speaking specifically for, you know, nerve pain, ridiculopathy, as we call them. Let's say somebody's got a really bad shingles pain. Yeah. Okay. Which is a really good example.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Or a discogenic pain. So a disc is maybe pinched. What we actually can do is by putting the acupuncturenees and the electrical stimulation to that, we actually stimulate more of this substance and flood the spinal cord so that all of these pain, this pain is dampened greatly, if not sometimes just turned off. Yeah. Yeah. Reregulate.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah. So, yeah. So substance P is this neurotransmitter that's thought to transmit pain signal. You can deplete substance P, like in people who have shingles, and they have what's called post-herpetic neurology where you've got pain that persists even after the shingles are gone. And it's just because those peripheral nerves are being stimulated. You can put capsaicine cream on there. It's cream that actually has red, the stuff that makes red peppers hot. And when you rub it on the skin, the first couple of times it'll burn, obviously, because it's like rub.
Starting point is 00:48:36 having jalapinos on your skin. And then if you keep doing it, it will deplete that substance, substance P, this neurotransmitter, because you've just, you've used it all up. And now you can't transmit pain signals anymore. And then it makes the pain go away. So you have to keep that stuff on there. The interesting thing is that substance P, which is this neurotransmitter, also is involved in inflammation, but also in mood.
Starting point is 00:49:06 and anxiety and learning. So if you've got someone that has horrible pain, this may affect their mood and their anxiety level. And so you get this whole syndrome that we call chronic pain syndrome.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And blood pressure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, it's just kind of interesting. So people who say, you know, oh, that person's anxious and they've got chronic pain and there may be a reason for that. They're being flooded
Starting point is 00:49:34 with this substance piece stuff. So it's just one hypothesis but very interesting. You got any questions? Oh, wait. Well, let's do our gross stories. Because we're actually running out of time. So who wants to go first on this? We're not actually competing today. I've got a couple of questions. I did not bring a story.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Okay. There you go. I can get you want to do the questions? Tacey, did you bring your gross story? I have an interesting psychological disorder. Okay. Okay. Oh, I like it. Well
Starting point is 00:50:06 Yeah, go ahead Oh you mean Oh, you were just talking about yourself Yes That's what she's her That too It's called the Jerusalem syndrome And it occurs
Starting point is 00:50:18 When a visit to the Holy Land Triggers Obsessive Ideas about religion Really And even messian Messianic Messianic delusions The condition can affect anyone Regardless of religion
Starting point is 00:50:32 Symptoms may include compulsive cleaning and grooming, wearing white robes, and sermonizing. Holy moly. Suffers without a pre-existing psychiatric condition typically return to normal within five to seven business days, or I'm, it doesn't say business days, sorry. That's the old worker in me. And they feel some shame about their behavior. Wow, I've got a, yeah, I've got a psychiatric journal.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Acute psychotic state observed in tourists and pilgrims. who visit Jerusalem. Isn't that crazy? What if you live there? The main symptom of this disorder is identification with a character from the Bible exhibiting behaviors which seem to be typical for this character. Huh. Three main categories of the syndrome were identified with special focus on the category,
Starting point is 00:51:23 unconjoined to previous psychopathology, the pure form of the Jerusalem syndrome. And, oh, wow. Okay. So they just give the diagnosis criteria. I like how they're embarrassed after. Yeah, that there's shame afterwards. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Become psychotic after arriving in Jerusalem. I bet they see this all the time. People get off the plane and they get in their hotel room and then they start acting crazy and the people in the hotel are like, well, we got another one. Another Jerusalem syndrome. Isn't that something? All right, very good. Okay, well, we can't just go, wow, and sit here and read. We have to actually put on a show.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I'm just imagining. So to be fair, you didn't say grotesque in the prompt. You said bring a fucked up. That's exactly right. You said a f-up story. You said bring a fucked up story, right. That changed me a little bit. So I got a couple.
Starting point is 00:52:21 They're quickies. Yeah, that's fine. I didn't delve into a lot. So number one, repeats the theme. So there was a 2006 case. Essentially, what I did was look at the worst malpractice cases. in history for this. So there was a 2006 case
Starting point is 00:52:38 where the anesthesiologist administered during surgery the paralytic but forgot to give the patient the true anesthetics and the medications that help induce amnesia so that you don't remember the... Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:52:53 So the patient... Oh, they paralyzed them? They paralyzed the patient and operated on them. They were awake. So about 20 minutes into the surgery, they realized this guy's awake. It's awful. So he was feeling all of the pain, but he couldn't move. He couldn't shout.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And I've heard of this happening. That's the worst nightmare for people. They're just called paralytic. And what they do is they just shut off your ability to move. And when you do that, you can't give somebody one of those unless they have ventilatory support because they will die. They can't breathe. They can't move. They can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:53:26 But they are absolutely awake unless you don't ventilate them and then they'll faint and then eventually stop breathing and die. so that's that is a nightmare don't they do that dear when they do the gas or the uh or the death road for the inmates they use they use potassium i think they get paralytic first they give them propofal and then they give them potassium maybe they do parallelism too a couple of different things that go in there i mean according to this this particular case the patient committed suicide a couple weeks after i don't yeah i'm sure it was so traumatic yeah extremely traumatic because you just think your life is one way and then all of a sudden you're just
Starting point is 00:54:02 being operated. Holy moly, that's awful. That's some civil war. Yeah, I wonder if, I mean, that had to be traumatic
Starting point is 00:54:11 for them too. I mean, having your leg sawed off just while your other people are just crowding around watching it. I mean, that would just have to be
Starting point is 00:54:19 disastrous. Anyway, you have some questions from the waiting room, right, Dr. Scott. Let's do those, and then Lydia, save yours.
Starting point is 00:54:27 You're going to come back next week? I could, yeah. Yeah? Can you just come back every week? Not every week So here's a thing
Starting point is 00:54:34 Like I don't have a babysitter Right So every other week How old your kid? She's two She's old enough Been a drill I know
Starting point is 00:54:41 I've just never had a babysitter So it's like my mother Who's a bit passive aggressive And doesn't like to babysit Unless I'm working In clinic Bring her here And Tacey will
Starting point is 00:54:51 Watch her one time Or Beckwell or something No I just I really should get a Like she needs to have Other Outside people I've just
Starting point is 00:55:00 sheltered quite a bit. Okay, well, we can talk about that. We'll figure it out. We might be able to help you in that regard. All right. Okay. So, either next week or the week after. Yeah, next week is good. All right. So, what do you have you got, Dr. Scott? Yeah, so Bob Dandy was asking about the difference between
Starting point is 00:55:18 a Dio and an MD, and he's got some chronic lower back pain. Okay. I was wondering our thoughts. Yeah. Okay. Dio's an MD. So Dio is Dr. Osteopathic medicine, and then M.D. is medical doctor. And then you have MBBS. Those are people
Starting point is 00:55:34 who come from certain other countries, and that's just what they're thinking. I can't remember it's master of biolot. I can't remember what MBBS stands for. But it's the same thing as MD. Let's look it up real quick. Mbbs. It is
Starting point is 00:55:49 Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery. And that is the, it's the same. And when they come here, once they get licensed, they'll just get to call them MD. They'll change it to MD because nobody knows what the hell in MBBS is in this country. So now, the curriculum is exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:56:11 There are some parts of the country where all, mostly what they have is DOS. When I was a kid in Michigan, my pediatrician, you know, the family general internist, the person who delivered me, they were all DOs. And then in other parts of the country like the South, right here, there was a while before they accepted doctors of osteopathic medicine. And that was unfortunate. It was just some, you know, how things are. There weren't a lot of schools here for it. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Now there are. Now there are. And when people like, well, we had an OBGYN come and he was a DO, he was the first DO OBGYN that got privileges here. I was here when that happened in 1980. 80-something. Everybody loved him. And once they realized, well, okay, they're the same. Then, then, and it actually opens up your pool of people you can hire. Right. If you will also hire DOs and MDs. Now these days, I'd be interested in talking to any DOs that have had any discriminatory practices against them when it comes to getting
Starting point is 00:57:15 hospital privileges. But I'm not aware of any anymore. So, but the thing about the DOs is they have another part of their curriculum that MDs, don't have, and that is osteopathic manipulation. Right. So they do, you know, muscle energy stuff and they do manipulation. It's not like, it's different than chiropractic medicine. As a matter of fact, the
Starting point is 00:57:38 person who invented osteopathic medicine. A.T. Still. There you go. Andrew Taylor still. Mm, my age you something. Give yourself a bill. He had this method where he would put people's, like if you
Starting point is 00:57:52 had hip pain, he would get you on the table and he would manipulate you, around until he found a position where the pain went away. And then he just holds you there. And, yeah, we had some sort of connection in that regard, going way back, Dr. Scott. Anyway, it's a really fascinating thing. I have absolutely no issue if you go to a doctor of osteopathic medicine and do some of the things that they do.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Now, I will tell you, a lot of osteopaths, when they get out of osteopathic school, they just, they don't do it anymore. They don't do it anymore. I was married to one. So we were married during all of Dio school. Oh, is that right? Yeah. And I didn't realize he would have a lot of females in his apartment practicing O-M.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Yeah, yeah. Let's do a, I was married to one too. Well, and so one of the. Figuorous chest massage. Yeah. Actually, though, so I was able to learn quite a bit from him. And it does work, like the muscle energy techniques, things like that. I mean, it's quite different from chiropractic. Yes, very different.
Starting point is 00:58:56 But certainly, like you said, Dr. Steve, like the curriculum is the same. The boards are essentially the same. He took, like, the main internal medicine boards. I'm getting ready to start a fellowship at a DO through a DO medical school or, you know, osteopathic school. And they actually want an MD to be the program director so that they can get MDs and DOs in the program. So they're all together. The programs here have DOs.
Starting point is 00:59:25 MD, you know, graduates, it's totally fine. But if you can find one that'll do manipulation, if they like doing it, that's the ones. That's exactly, and thank you for saying it. And we have a friend who actually. Yeah, I was going to, I was going to add to that. So for old Bob Danny there, the MDs and DOs, as long as they know what they're doing, they're going to be great. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:45 The one benefit, and many MDs, you know, like Dr. Steve, can actually do some of those, those really gentle manipulations. Yeah, because I trained. with Dios. So just make sure, either way you go, just find somebody knows what the hell they're doing. And they like to do it. And they like to do it, right. That O.B., he, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:05 a lot of women have low back pain when they're pregnant. And it's not only because of the weight, but because there's a hormone called relaxin that's changing the way that the muscles and the ligaments around. Ripping their backside apart. Yeah, it does that. And he could do manipulation on their back that the MDs didn't know how to do. The MDs just give him medicine or tell him, deal with it. And he could
Starting point is 01:00:29 get them up on there and flip him around and put his fist under their back and then twist them a certain way and get their pain better. So, you know, there were things that he could do that other people couldn't do. So, you know, it just really depends on the provider, but they do have that in their curriculum that's beyond what MDs get. So it's pretty cool. Yeah. And I've got one of a quick question for you, Dr. Stephen, you're the expert on this. So we've got, and I was trying Let's see who. Doug, Doug, unfortunately, has a pup that's got a big chelaison. Chalazion.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Chalasian. Chalasian. Oh, my God. So, unfortunately, yeah, he was just asking your thoughts about that. Yeah, okay. Well, it's just a bump on your eyelid, basically. These things can also be called mybomian cysts, and I've had them. And as a matter of fact, if you go to our YouTube channel, the one viral,
Starting point is 01:01:24 video that I've got is Dr. Steve gets a Shalazion removed and I had like 300,000 views and then YouTube told me well you can't monetize this because it's a surgical procedure but anyway but you can go look at it and very often these oil glands become blocked
Starting point is 01:01:41 and the eyelid and it'll cause a sty and then when the sty resolves it will leave behind this little mass of fibrous tissue called a chalazion and the way that they remove it is crazy. It sounds totally nuts, but you don't
Starting point is 01:02:00 want to take it out from the eyelid side, you know, the skin side, because if you do, you'll end up with a scar there. So what they do is they flip your eyelid, they invert it, and then they'll stick a needle in it where the Schlesion is and fill it up with
Starting point is 01:02:16 numbing medicine. Fluid. And then, yes, well, it already has, it kind of has this, it's not even fluid, it's kind of a, just a fibrous mass. Yeah, yeah, kind of, yeah. But yes, they'll inject fluid pain medicine in there to numb it up. And then they will cut a slit in the eyelid, but you want to do it from the top of the eyelid to the lash part. You don't want to go sideways because that'll really screw it up. But the fibrous structure of that is in that direction. So you just cut along the grain
Starting point is 01:02:49 and you open it up and just take a curate and scoop that sucker out of there and you don't do anything else. You put some antibiotic ointment on there and just go about your business. And when it wears off, it hurts a little bit. It's not that bad. And the thing with me was when I used to get these chalaisians all the time, they would be so big that they would distort my vision because they would change the shape of my eyeball in a very subtle way,
Starting point is 01:03:18 but it was enough to mess my vision off. so I would want to get, and they look stupid too you've got a big lumpy, lumpy eyelids. So surely they can help that puppy. Yes, absolutely. Now, a puppy isn't going to let you just sit there and stick a needle in their eyelids. They'll have to drug the puppy.
Starting point is 01:03:35 They'll have to put them to sleep. I'm sorry, not put them to sleep. That has a different connotation with dogs. They'll have to give them general anesthesia. Now, I'm going to tell you, I had the most enraging story that has to do with having a Shalazian removed, not
Starting point is 01:03:53 with that doctor, but his partner. And I rotated with this guy. He knew me, and you know, I've known him for years. I went to him. I had a Shalazian need to get it removed. And it turned out that this guy just liked doing
Starting point is 01:04:09 cataracts, so he didn't like doing all this kind of bullshit, right, in the office. So, but he comes in, he says, okay, let's do it. And, you know, when someone flips your eye and sticks a needle in your eyelid, you're going to grip the... Yeah, you're going to have something.
Starting point is 01:04:26 You're going to white knuckle it a little bit, right? Well, I had a book in my... I had co-written, ghost written, an archery book with a friend of mine. Cool. And he was 10-time indoor national champion. I ghost wrote this book, published it, but I had the brand new books,
Starting point is 01:04:42 and so I was flipping through it to proofread it to make sure they were okay before we sold. So I had it in my lap, right? And he sticks this thing in my eye and now he starts talking to me like I am five years old maybe not even five maybe three and a half and he's like
Starting point is 01:04:57 oh are you the big archer yes yes you are oh you're the big archer aren't you and I'm like will you shut the fuck up dude that was so weird what the hell I guess he was trying he saw me sort of white
Starting point is 01:05:13 knuckling but it's like dude just just do it and shut up don't talk to me Are you the big Is that what she's saying The better? Are you the big archer? I'm going to start.
Starting point is 01:05:23 That's what, yeah, that's when she says when we're strutting our stuff, yeah. Big archer. Are you the big archer? Yes. Give it to me, big archer. That didn't end it really quick. Oh my.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Yeah. Oh, your arrow is so big. Good stuff. All right. Got anything else? Let's say let's wrap it up. Yep, wrap, rap, right. Well, thanks always go to Dr. Scott.
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