Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 530 - Ebony Mystique
Episode Date: November 13, 2022Dr Steve, Dr Scott, Tacie and PA Lydia discuss breast augmentation with adult film star Ebony Mystique! We had a bad connection but part II will be coming up soon! Also: non-genital orgasms sperm do...nation after death differences in pain tolerance substance P do "gingers" perceive pain differently? nociceptive vs neuropathic pain Jerusalem syndrom D.O. vs M.D.? Chalazion removal (video example) Dr Steve's most infuriating experience as a patient Please visit: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) simplyherbals.net (now with NO !vermect!n!) (JUST KIDDING, Podcast app overlords! Sheesh!) roadie.doctorsteve.com (the greatest gift for a guitarist or bassist! The robotic tuner!) Weird Medicine: The Podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/medicine (Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self!) Also don't forget: Cameo.com/weirdmedicine (Book your old pal right now while he’s still cheap! "FLUID!") noom.doctorsteve.com (the link still works! Lose weight now before swimsuit season is over!) Most importantly! CHECK US OUT ON PATREON! ALL NEW CONTENT! Robert Kelly, Mark Normand, mystery guests! Stuff you will never hear on the main show ;-) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So anyone who's been listening for a while knows that PA Lydia forgot
got to grow boobs in school, and she did everything else, got straight A's and stuff, but that was one of the things she forgot to do.
And she is considering, after having a kid and now kicking, you know, a guy to the curb, getting, you know, breast in augmentation.
And we've had different people on.
We had a lady diagnosis on.
And we were going to have my other friend who had the Asia Syndrome, but we talked about it instead.
But today, as promised, we have Ebony Mystique.
And you can follow her on Instagram at the official Ebony Mystique.
And on Twitter at Ebony Mystique One, she has her own podcast, Ebony Mystique TV.
You can enjoy it on YouTube.
And she started her career being a nurse.
And then she is now an adult movie actress and celebrity fashion designer.
And Ebony Mystique, thanks for being on the show.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Well, it is a true pleasure.
One of the things, I'm looking at a photograph of you, and by the way, you are quite lovely and delightful.
And Lainey Spizer, your publicist, sent me your measurements.
It's your 36 triple D.
Now, I must be just terrible at estimating this.
I would have guessed you were much larger than that.
So you must be small and stand.
I'm surprised. I would have thought, I would have guessed, like, 42G or something, but I'm a guy. What do I know?
Close enough. You know, it's funny when I first decided to do the enhancement, I didn't want to go so big, but actually my plastic surgeons recommended that if you're here, you might as well go bigger, go home. So we went ahead and put Cedar for these in.
Yeah, sure. I've seen that on some of these plastic surgeons.
shows, and I've seen it in real
life, I mean, I actually am a
practicing physician in real life and have
had some experience with this, where
women will get one size and then
decide that they want to go bigger
and they keep getting bigger and bigger.
And that actually causes
some problems. So you should probably go for the size
that you want right off the bat.
That's good to know, because my third time
was the term, that's when I went this big.
So I wish I knew you didn't have.
Well, and you were a nurse before, right?
I mean, that's what I read that in your bio.
I actually did not know that before.
So how long were you practicing nurse?
Absolutely.
Yeah, I was a critical care nurse for about 13 years.
And then I decided my last year in the field to do advice nursing.
And then here we are.
Wow.
Yeah, I bet those guys saw you coming in the ICU.
you when they either got better or they just died at a heart attack.
Well, listen.
Of course, these triple deeds wouldn't work in that field.
Oh, no.
No, they would work just fine.
But anyway.
So, P.A. Lydia, she is a physician assistant.
And she, did I say it at the beginning?
Yeah, forgot to grow boobs.
Yeah, yes, yeah, right.
She loves it when I say that.
Or she never learned how.
And so she's thinking about augmentation.
And we had some folks on earlier, a lady diagnosis was on,
and then we had another lady that was going to be on.
And that, you know, she actually didn't show up,
but we talked about the complications that she had.
And Lydia's got some questions for you.
So I wanted to kind of go from small to medium to, you know, perfect.
The eye of the beholder
So anyway, take it away, P.A.
Yeah, hello, Ms. Ebony.
Hello, how are you?
I'm great. It's so nice to speak with you.
So I think the big question I have from being for 33 years now in the small boob club
is some of the negatives that I should like think about and figure out whether they're worth it or not.
So my first question to you is do you have the back pain that people talk about?
Or do you just work out and prevent it?
What's your take on that?
You went out.
I'm sorry.
I didn't get the last.
I didn't get the question.
She was asking about back pain.
Yeah.
Do you have back pain from your large breasts?
Oh, back pain.
You know, actually they're really comfortable.
And initially, you know, just with the body trying to get used to a foreign object and it made so bag.
I think I did experience a little pain.
But now I'm doing great.
Okay. Did you get your, do you still, can I ask you if you still have your nipple sensation?
I do. I have a nipple sensation. I didn't lose that at all. And, you know, the main thing is the support. Like, when you go this big, you should, like, wear some type of supportive bra or something like that, for sure.
Okay. And when they, when they did it, did they go, like, under your pectoralis muscle or did you go on top? How did that work out?
Yeah, they went right through the ariola, and then they kind of closed it back up through there, and I was able to get a really good, nice shape afterwards.
No kidding.
I was really happy.
I just followed the surgeons guidelines.
That's cool.
So they, like, made the incision around your ariola and put it all in?
Yeah.
Okay.
How long was your recovery?
Like, how long were you, like, unable to lift stuff?
Like, I have a two-year-old.
I would say one or two weeks was kind of hard.
The first two days are the worst, and it gets better after that.
But after two weeks, you get back to some sort of activity, just not too tenuous.
They kind of recommend like four weeks, so it's best to kind of see how your body goes
and just really take your time and do as a doctor says, the surgeon, yeah.
Okay.
Now ask her the important stuff.
What about, you know, unwanted attention from men?
and can
do you walk around
hiding your body
when you're in public
or you know
do you accentuate it
and let me go you know
hell I paid for this
take a look
stretch your stuff
I don't get much negative attention
I mean I already do mainstream adult films
but outside I'm more modest
I think the attention that I get
either way is going to be somewhat
sexual because of my job, but
yeah, everything's been
pretty, I've been pretty well-respected
out in the community with people.
I kind of dress more modestly, though,
when I'm talking about
I don't really want negative attention, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, under.
Yeah, I don't really like a lot of attention.
Me neither.
You are a liar, actress, go the fuck out.
Uh-oh, Ebony, are you gone?
Yeah, you guys and girls.
Well, I will be back, Dr. Stephen, where medicine is going to have me back on Skype
so you actually can see these triple B boobs.
Yes.
And kind of get a face to this voice.
I'll be back soon.
I'm actually shooting for you guys today on my lovely fans and supporters for browsers.
Okay, so yeah, so go ahead and get your plugs out, Mystique, and I mean, Ebony.
And then we will definitely have you back because we are having some.
some real technical issues with your connection.
Let's do it.
I know they can see you on Brazzers.
Whether they go to browsers.com.
Yes, go to browsers.com to see my mainstream scenes.
I'm an exclusive contract girl with them.
And then, of course, you can follow me on Instagram, Ebony Mastika official, or my Twitter
is Ebony Maseek-1, and you get all the goodies there.
I can't wait to talk to all of you guys.
Okay.
Hey, we'll do this again.
I'm sorry about the technical stuff, but have a wonderful shoot, break a leg, or, you know, whatever you say when you're going to do a scene.
Okay, thank you.
And I'll be waiting for you soon so we can set up this type.
Okay, I'll talk to Lainey about it.
Okay, take care.
Okay, bye-bye.
I know you're all just, you're very uncomfortable with all of this, but we do have another person.
I would like to have Ebony back on it because she seems really cool.
Yeah.
And I was quite distracted looking.
at her promotional photograph.
I'm sure you were.
Because she's
quite delightful.
He is the biggest boob man
you've ever met in your whole life.
And it's not, I mean, look,
I like the,
and I haven't said this on the show
in a long time because I've tried to
be a little bit more whatever,
but it's the tit to gut
ratio, that's the thing, you know.
And we figured out one
time, there's this thing called the
Golden Mean. Have you ever heard of it?
Okay, so it's a ratio.
And the Greeks found that if you make buildings according to the golden ratio, which is 1.608 to 1, that they will have pleasing shape.
And not only that, but the chambered nautilus has the area of the different chambers is in a ratio of 1.608 to when you start seeing the golden mean everywhere.
sunflowers use the golden mean to make that sort of interesting pattern of their of the seeds and stuff so you find the golden mean everywhere so I said well it would be fun to see if the golden mean applied you know to human proportions so if you have a okay so what's your what's your waist size it just makes something up you know it doesn't have to be real okay let's say yeah teeny but let's say it's 25 inch
So then if the golden mean applied, then the chest size should be in that ratio of 1.608 to 1 and the waist as well.
So let's figure out what somebody would be if they had a waist of 25 inches.
Echo, what's 1.608 times 25?
1.608 times 25 is 40.2.2 is 40.2.
There you go.
40, 25, 40 is perfect.
40 on the waist.
I mean, the hips, no, thanks.
No, well, 40, 25, you know, 30 something would be perfect.
So anyways.
But so that, so it's all about that ratio.
You could be a tiny little person with 32 bees, but if you're a tiny, you know, you've got a 21-inch waist, you know, it's perfect.
So I'm not all about just giant boobs.
You know, if you're weigh 800 pounds and you've got boobs hanging down your ankles, that's not going to be necessarily.
The lady we just had on, her frame is so small.
Yes.
Yeah.
And that's why her breasts look so big.
That's why they look so big.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think if we saw her in real life, I didn't see how tall she is.
I mean, a triple D on me is nothing.
Well, she's 5.7.
She's 5.7.
Okay.
That's my height.
Yeah.
But her frame, though.
I mean, her, she's got.
Her frame and your frame are exactly the same.
Yeah, that's exactly what you would look like.
That's exactly what you'd look like if you went that bit.
Ebony, Google image, Ebony, Ebony Mystique.
There you go.
Yeah, that's what you would look like.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that looks like about the right size.
He would.
Yep.
Sounds great.
That might not go quite that big, but we'll be filing for divorce.
Nothing scared, Steve more than the consultation I had getting my breast reductions.
Probably one of the worst days of his life
Well, I wasn't, you know, I thought you were perfect the way you were
But I did go in and I said here, here's a picture of Katie Perry's tits
If you can do that
That is an absolute lie
What? No, I did. Yeah, I did.
She's pretty large-breasted, didn't she?
Yeah, but they're smaller than what Tacey's were?
I said, no, what are you talking about?
I brought that in and I said, if you can do this, I'll be fine with it.
said that to the surgeon during that
consultation. I do not remember.
I'm glad he was concerned about your health and well-being.
No, I do not remember a picture
of Katie Perry anyway. She was totally
healthy. I know. I brought
in a picture of Katie Perry
and her boobs.
And I said, well, I'm not
going to say it again. I mean, that's what I said to the guy.
And he said, yeah, I can do that.
Cool. He left a little extra.
Now, the other
fucking thing about that
whole thing was, you know,
I'm, look, I would
I got behind it.
I wanted to do what you wanted to do.
But what pissed me off is they told us to be there at five in the morning.
And so I get her there at five.
They take her back.
And they say, well, we'll let you know when we're done.
So I read my book for a little bit.
And then I fell asleep.
And then I woke up, read my book for a little bit, fell asleep.
Nine in the morning, they come out.
And I'm like, okay, cool.
And they go, oh, we're taking her back now.
They hadn't even started.
They just had you back in surgical holding for four frigging hours.
Yeah, he was
habitually late.
Yeah.
I didn't know that
when I scheduled him.
But what was cool
was when you did have
the arterial bleed
in your boob
New Year's Eve
and we're drunk A.F
and she's got one breast
is twice the size of the other one
and it's like
rock hard like that.
That's crazy.
He did show it.
He came to the emergency room
and took care of it.
Now there's nothing more sexy
than seeing a
you know, your surgeon, open up your wife's chest wall and scooping out, you know,
large clumps of current jelly and then sewing it back up.
That was, that was awesome.
But good God.
What a night.
Yeah, that was a night.
And I'm talking about how bad it was for me.
I mean, it's, you know, she.
Tacey's like, oh.
Yeah, it was slightly worse for Tacey, I guess.
Anyway.
But here we are.
Yeah.
But, yeah, now you're perfect.
Yeah.
Could use another one.
We'll talk about that later.
Yeah.
We'll talk about that when I'm serving you papers.
So, yeah, so we'll have her back on.
And then there is a fourth person that wants to talk to you that had some issues with what lady diagnosis said about her augmentation.
And she wanted to just be the voice of reason for you.
And then we'll have her on.
and then you decide.
And then whenever you do it,
we can have the big unveiling here on the show.
Yeah.
I mean, hell, you've done...
Just unveil it.
Just show it.
Actually, what...
We'll see.
I know it seems weird,
but most women that I know
that have had breast augmentation,
they're like, yeah, you want to see them.
It's crazy.
And I'm like, well, sure.
Okay, if you mourn...
Nah.
There's a lot of that mortifies me slightly.
Nah, I'm good.
No, you don't have to show us anything.
I saw a friend of mine...
I'll show Tasey.
And in a, in a,
store after my last visit with my doctor post-off and I saw her and I said let me go show
them to you and I did because they were high and they were smaller high and pricier and she was
like they look great of course they didn't because they were all red and bruised and purple and they
got to show them to a woman you know like yeah every man I've ever showed him to is just disappointed
oh I'm sure that's not true that's just that
It did not be further from the truth.
I'll tell you what.
That's not true.
Stacey Deloche, who has been on this show before, he doesn't like boobs.
And so, I mean, he likes them, but he likes them really small.
So he's like, I know, I would tell her not to do anything.
So there you go.
So there are guys out there, obviously.
Well, you had a baby with one.
That's where I think you've got to, like, toe the line.
Right?
Yeah, listen, there's somebody for everybody.
Yeah.
Even people that with, you know, A Cups.
Even a cup.
I'm just being an asshole.
I think I'm between A and B right now.
At one time I was a B, but that was like 20 pounds ago.
No, I had a girlfriend.
Well, anyway, it doesn't, nobody cares.
I had a girlfriend that had almost zero boobs, but I loved her, you know, and it didn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It really doesn't matter.
It really doesn't.
Yeah.
If you care about the.
If you're sweet and you're smart and you're kind, it really doesn't matter.
Yeah.
Well, maybe I should get on those things then.
You got to work on the sweet thing.
Those things are cheaper.
They really are, and they're less painful.
Less painful.
The harder, though, harder to be nice and sweet.
It is.
Yeah, that's true.
It's easier to just strut around with big giant tits and everybody just agrees with
you no matter what just because they want to, you know, be closer to you.
Closer.
Anyway, all right, well, good.
Well, thank you. Well, thank you.
Well, yeah, you're welcome.
Thank you for that effort.
We put you in a position that you were not comfortable with, but, you know, what the hell?
Good stuff.
That's what we do with our guests.
Yeah.
A couple of things.
You all were going to bring a grotesque story today, and P.A. Lydia is nodding.
And then you had something from your friends at the rescue project.
Did you want to talk about that?
Yeah, sure.
So my partner, Harvey, is really good at ideas, really cool ideas,
and I'm good at, like, doing work, right?
So we're great partners.
He sent you or ordered you something as a token of appreciation for your support of
Allied Extract in our humanitarian work.
We were originally going to...
Allied extract is where you were getting people out of Afghanistan.
Yeah, we formed initially to get people out of Afghanistan.
So I think 417 people were taken out of Afghanistan on behalf of U.S. government and CIA request, Johns Hopkins requests.
Through you guys.
Yeah, through us.
And then you had all these crazy cell phones that you were communicating with people and all this stuff.
And I'm still getting them out.
It's nuts.
I'm still chatting with Afghans every day.
So I think now we're at like 2,500 people.
Wow.
Oh, wow.
So.
It's a lot.
The U.S. government has relied on volunteers.
But now they've taken over, so that's good.
Really?
They have taken over.
They are tracking all of the eligible people who can evacuate Afghanistan, and they're managing it.
And I have not submitted another person.
Really?
Is that right?
And they're still getting out.
Okay.
So it's great.
All right.
It's a win.
Okay, that is a win.
And so now we've been in Ukraine since the Russian invasion, helping people get out of, like, those frontline
Eastern areas.
Yeah.
We've got some orphanages we support.
We send in medical aid and humanitarian aid.
We send stoves to troops, whatever is needed, right?
Just aid.
Anyway, Dr. Steve was a great supporter of Allied extract.
So Harvey has ordered this for you.
Ooh.
So you can read the top.
Okay.
Made in Russia, recycled in you.
Am I going to get on a list for this?
I don't think so.
Made in Russia, recycled in Ukraine.
Never forgive, never forget.
Wow, what is this thing?
What the hell is this?
It's a piece of Russian tank that was blown up in Kyiv during the initial invasion of Russia.
Oh, my goodness.
And so if you scan the QR code, you can see the tank that this came from.
You're kidding?
That is crazy.
Oh, okay, now I get it.
Oh, my goodness.
That's pretty cool, right?
Yeah, it's very unique.
That's for sure.
Wow.
Yeah.
So that's just north of Kiev during the initial invasion.
So do you guys still need?
Donations, we might as well plug Harvey's thing.
That's amazing.
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
Alliedextract.org.
Okay.
We were trying to shut down and we just couldn't do it.
Yeah.
There's still a need.
There'll always be a need to help refugees.
Okay, well, good for you.
Alliedextract.org and thank him very much for this.
Absolutely.
That's super cool.
That is pretty sweet.
Yeah.
All right.
Good deal.
Well, you guys want to take some medical.
questions? Sure.
Do it? Okay. Number one
thing. Don't take advice from some
asshole on the radio. Okay. Well, this one,
I don't know what this is. It's just the
orgasms, and I figured it was apropos
to what we were talking about today. So let's
see what this is. All right.
This one might take a few minutes to get this question through, but
kind of playing off of the
female orgasm and
squirting and things such as that.
This is your buddy
who likes the A-Cups, by the way.
the day called mean girls.
Okay.
Funny podcast.
Anyway, one of the girls is talking about how she's learned that she can have an orgasm
from her boyfriend manipulating and playing with her breasts.
Okay.
And then also thinking back that Stephen Hawkins, who's always been confined to a wheelchair,
most of his life, had a very healthy and fun sex life according to his wife.
So all that being said, the female orgasm is.
Is that physical stimulation, or is that more of a mental stimulation?
Thank you.
No, that's actually a really good question.
And I have several things to say about this, but you guys can chime in on this.
You know, orgasms can be induced without genital stimulation.
No question about that.
I knew a guy that didn't have any feeling from the waist down, and he could have what he claimed was an orgasm by somebody stroking his arm repeatedly.
And orgasms are spinal reflexes.
They tend to be in the lower spine, but I guess, you know, the neurologic system is very plastic to up to a certain point, and it can reprogram itself.
Now, the story I was going to tell about orgasms was the brain-dead guy that the wife wanted to have a baby with him before they took him off the ventilator because he was actually deceased.
He had no brain activity, no blood flow going to the brain whatsoever.
So she manipulated his genitalia, got an erection, and continued to manipulate until he ejaculated.
She captured the sperm or the semen and was going to use it to do an artificial insemination so that she could have a baby with him.
Now, that just goes to show you even brain dead guys can get an erection and complete the transaction.
So I think a lot of women probably think most of us are brain dead anyway.
but you know
well that's because you're an idiot
but true story
that can be done because it is a spinal reflex
so what do you guys think about that
but long been known people experience orgasms
during sleep with no stimulation
whatsoever or after exercise
but the exercise women who have it during exercise
we hypothesize that that's because they're jiggling.
Yeah, right, yeah, they're jiggling.
They're either manipulating their genitalia with the bicycle seat
or if they do it when they're jogging,
because there are women that are trying to jog
and they just start having orgasms, one after another,
that their reproductive organs are just jumping up and down or whatever,
you know, and stimulating those nerves.
So what do you guys think?
Have you ever had an orgasm?
in a non-genital stimulation way?
I have.
Yeah?
Yeah, who said that?
Tacey?
Let's hear it.
Oh, no.
Do you not want to...
You just want to say that...
No, it was a long, long time ago.
You just want to say that it happened.
And it did happen.
Okay, it just did happen.
You want to say...
From what?
Just kissing.
Really?
Did it feel the same?
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, here's...
I'm looking at it.
In a case report, a 33-year-old woman developed the ability to attain and control the duration of subjective orgasmic state without genital stimulation after, oh, Scott, you'll be interested in this, tantric training.
Blood was taken at weekly intervals before, during, and after spontaneously induced orgasms that lasted five to ten minutes.
Or after 10-minute period of book reading.
Okay. Plasma was analyzed looking for luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone. These are pituitary hormones.
Free testosterone and prolactin, which is also pituitary hormone. The woman also provided subjective score.
So here's the results. Prolactin levels post-orgasm increased by 25% and 48% respectively after the five or 10-minute non-genitally stimulated orgasms.
or NGSOs, and were still elevated from baseline 30 minutes after orgasm.
No changes were observed in FSA-trophy testosterone.
And after, let me see, okay, the pattern of all of these things were similar to orgasms induced by clitoral or anal stimulation.
Book reading did not result in any change in prolactin.
So she wasn't bullshitting because you could just, you know.
That was the control.
Do, like, Harry, exactly right.
You could do when Harry met Sally and just pretend to have an orgasm.
And how would anybody know?
But you can't fake the changes in your pituitary hormones that are released during orgasms.
That's pretty cool.
I would have also had them check oxytocin levels.
Mm-hmm.
You know.
But anyway, I think that's fascinating.
I'm not sure I would want a 10-minute orgasm.
I mean, you know.
Well, Tacey can tell you about 10-minute orgasm.
She has those all the time, right?
Oh, yeah.
Probably be good exercise.
I wonder how many calories are burned per organ?
Not very many.
That's an interesting thing that intercourse is very calorie efficient.
And there's a reason for that.
When you are a starving hominid that's trying to run away, you know,
or one of our ancestors, running away from saber-tooth tigers
and you hardly have any food because you're a forager.
Maybe you haven't learned to hunt yet.
as a species and you need to and you're trying to have you know reproduce in between all these
sessions of running away from saber tooth tigers you don't want to waste a lot of calories so it
becomes very efficient even though it seems like oh we're sweating and we're doing all this stuff
and we're we're out of breath and all those things after having a prolonged session of sexual
Congress. It actually
doesn't use very many calories at all.
Isn't that interesting?
That's pretty wild.
Here you go. Types of orgasms and how to have them.
Let's see. What do you mean by types of
orgasms? According to long-time
sex educator, Sierra
Dasak, owner of
Early Tibet, a pleasure product
company in Chicago, so
she's not biased.
Not at all. Because the anatomical
structures that can lead to orgasm are often
intertwined and hard to distinguish.
Someone might have an orgasm from
stimulating the front wall of the vagina,
aka the G-spot.
Well, now she just making up stuff.
Or have an orgasm from stimulating the
external portion of their clitoris.
But ultimately, these orgasms
all come from the same place.
There's no science here. Lady, come on.
She's just selling toys
and saying things. But anyway,
all right.
Okay.
Well, that's impressive, kissing.
Some kiss.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
It's a long time ago.
Yeah.
Yep.
I've never had that.
Twert with me, I'll tell you that.
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.
My best sessions with Tacey were with her ultra ego named Tessinda.
Ticinda comes out after about seven glasses of wine.
Yes.
And Tase, and I, you know.
You know, I'm getting it on with Tessenda and, you know, all over the place, you know, on the couch and then on the floor and on top of the couch and then all this stuff.
Don't remember it.
And then the next day.
And I'm like, damn, I did pretty damn good.
The next day she's got no recollection of it whatsoever.
Why are my panties on the floor?
Yeah.
That's exactly what.
That's how I knew.
That's how I knew.
She wakes up and she goes, why are my panties on the floor?
And I'm like, God, damn it.
I was so good.
Oh, yeah.
But all I can do is just tell her.
You know, oh, yeah, I was awesome.
Okay, sure.
Why wouldn't you say that?
Yeah.
Tessenda.
Tessenda.
It's like Tawanda from Friede Tomato is only the sexualized version.
Yeah.
Well, Tacey has a friend who's been on this show before.
And when she drinks, when she drinks, her alter ego is, well, her name is Wendy and her
alter ego is foreign language, Wendy.
Because she can't understand the thing she says.
She's fun.
She's fun.
Okay.
Let me see.
This one says how to pay for stuff.
And then we're going to get to your gross questions.
Hey, Dr.
Steve.
This is Brad.
I'm the guy that fell 23 feet.
Called a few months back.
Go to myself to the hospital.
I was just wondering about me.
Fell 23 feet.
Oh, oh.
I always think about pain a lot, especially since I'm sober.
Never got into pain killers, but I was drinking.
But I was wondering, I know you probably answered this before I'm on one of your
podcast, but if people feel pain differently.
Yeah.
Like, I feel like I have an extremely high tolerance for pain.
But I also feel like as a blue collar guy, I've lived most of my life of it, and it just becomes normal.
Yes, now, this is a real good point.
Very true.
I mean, I live with pain every day.
It doesn't affect my quality of life.
You know, every once in a while, maybe, but really not to any great extent.
I still do all the things I'd like to do.
And, yeah, you know what?
Because my back is so effed up, I don't have to jog anymore.
So it's actually a plus in that regard.
But I know people, and the thing is, if I could feel their pain, then it would be my pain, right?
It wouldn't be their pain anymore.
So this is a, you know, this is a philosophical question that has been bandied about by philosophers
for ages about pain.
But I have seen people whose backs aren't as effed up as mine who are completely disabled.
Yes.
Now, is it because their syndrome is different, or do they just have a different tolerance for pain than I do?
You know, so that's kind of what he's getting at.
So let's see where he goes with this.
Just need higher and higher amounts of pain before you start feeling something.
Yeah.
This could go for emotional abuse also.
Yes, I agree.
I agree.
But, yeah, I was just wondering if you just get more and more
across from the pain.
Well, Scott can talk about this.
Oh, yeah.
We could talk a little bit about depleting substance pee and stuff like that,
and we'll get to that.
But go ahead, Scott.
You're the pain expert.
Yeah, I don't even know where to start with this question.
So I would say, yes, certainly the more pain you've had in your life,
typically the better you tolerate pain.
And when we start looking at, you know, people,
those backs, like your backs, as you said.
You know, sometimes we'll look at images of a lower back.
You know, it just looks awful.
Yeah.
I mean, just a train wreck.
Right.
And you look at this person, you say, how in the world are you even walking?
Much less kind of being normal, you know, normal bladder function and normal bowel functions of this era.
And then we'll see, you know, someone who you look at an image and it's like, there's nothing there's nothing there.
And they're just miserable.
And there's so many factors.
history is one.
You know, you've seen the reports where red-edded people tend to have less pain tolerance.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I have seen that.
No, I thought it was more.
No less, you know, much lower levels of pain.
And then, you know, the other thing, Dr. Steve, is our long-term use of opiates.
And sometimes when people have, and one of the thing I hate to see in my office is someone who's been on heavier doses of opiates.
for years, they tend to develop this thing called hyperalgesia.
Yes.
So they're much, they have a much, much greater reaction to pain than what we would think
would be normal.
So hyperalgesia is an increased sensitivity to feeling pain.
And then you have an extreme response to pain.
And that can actually be caused by pain medication.
Yes, it is.
There is a thing called opioid-induced hyperalgesia, where the more stuff that you put
people on, actually the worst that their response to pain is.
And I'm going to give Dr. Scott a bell.
Give yourself a bill.
Research has shown that people with red hair perceive pain differently than others.
They may be more sensitive to certain types of pain and require higher doses of some
pain-killing medications.
Now, however, I'm going to give PA Lydia a bell, too.
Give yourself a bill.
Studies suggest that their general pain tolerance may be higher, so you're
were both right.
Ha!
So there you go.
Hi-five.
As a ginger.
Yes, as a ginger.
I do notice.
Do you notice that?
Oh, absolutely.
My friend and I talk about, like, what is pain?
Like, what is even pain that people get?
Yeah.
I, like, cracked some ribs one time, and it was quite painful, but, like, the question is, like, when do you take pain medicine?
Right.
So I could tolerate it.
On the flip side, I was having an emergency C-section, and they kept giving me anesthesia,
giving me anesthesia, like, to block it.
And I guess kept telling them I could feel everything.
Wow.
So they ended up having to intubate me.
Really?
Because they could not get it.
Yeah, they put me under general because they could not, they like cut through and I'm
like, I can feel it.
And they go into the muscle.
I'm like, then I start screaming.
And I will give the ex a bill because I remember him saying, she's really quite stoic.
Like she's not a screamer.
she's really quite stoic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then they put in general.
Yeah, I could feel it.
Really hurt.
Yeah.
So definitely we require more in it like, you know, if you're going to do sutures,
something like that, more lydicane or.
Interesting.
Yeah, that's kind of great.
And I've seen that in practice for sure.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah, I know if you have pain is such a complicated thing.
And, you know, I'm like you, Dr. Steve, I tell people, whatever you do,
just don't compare your pain to anybody else's.
Right.
It's yours.
And if you say it hurts, then it does hurt.
Yeah.
And let's try to figure out.
what we can do to make it not so awful yeah and uh i mean pain really is just the
body's system of alerting the brain that there's something wrong right and part of the problem is
is that there is neuropathic pain too that where the pain of damaged nerves and pa lydia induces
this in people every day with chemotherapy and stuff and diabetes diabetics have it as well and that's a
non-functional pain because that pain is just telling the body that the nerves are damaged.
It's not really preventing it.
Move your hand away from a fire.
That's right.
Because no susceptible pain is a normal, you know, pain that keeps you from putting your hand, when you're little, putting your hand on the stove twice.
You might do it once, but you won't do it twice.
That's no susceptible pain.
And then, of course, there's visceral pain that's just pain from organ, organ stuff.
And which really, when we were, before we developed surgery, what was the purpose of that other
than to tell you you're going to die, you know?
Bye-bye.
Yeah.
It's kind of sucks.
Yeah.
And that's the truth, it's like you think back in time, you think, God, living with, you know,
like an acute appendicitis, how long were you going to live?
Well, some people did probably live.
Oh, yeah.
And they probably did, yeah.
You know, but, yeah, there was, that's one of the advances in modern medicine that's,
really made a difference.
You know, the biggest leap in lifespan was sanitation.
Right.
And separating our stool from our drinking water.
And when we did that, then we went from living 35 years to, you know, whatever.
And then it's been incremental since then.
And a lot of the stuff we do in modern medicine is lifestyle stuff.
So when you get an appendicitis, you can go in and take your appendix out, you don't
die a horrible, painful death anymore.
It may add real quick to this paint store because I loved on my paint,
but years ago we went to see in New York City in Manhattan.
In the museum there, they had a photo tribute to the Civil War.
So all these pictures in the Civil War,
and they had all these soldiers standing there.
And, like, you know, one would be standing there on a crutch
and his legs been cut off.
And then they've got another one, you know, biting on a belt
and they're sawing his leg off and actually pictures of this.
It's like, God.
I have people come in.
I say, what's your pain today?
And they'll say, oh, it's a 10.
And I say, okay, let's recalibrate this a little bit.
You seem rather calm.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, a 10 is you're in the Civil War.
You got hit by a musket.
And I am now sawing your leg off without anesthesia with a rusty saw.
That's a 10.
And they're pouring alcohol to sleep.
Oh, my God.
You have all the pain.
And then cauterize it.
Oh, my God.
That's a 10.
So on a scale of one, a 10, with that.
That being a 10, what are you, but a four.
Yeah, exactly.
So it just, you know, you've got to get the scale calibrated.
That's all.
Do you calibrate the scale?
I don't bother calibrating the scale with people.
I do for that kind of thing.
When I've got somebody just who walks in and sits down and says my pain's at 10.
Well, I just, I want us to be on the same page so that if I write a 10 down and someone comes in later and goes, well, this person's a 10 and they didn't, you know, they gave them lore tab.
fives or something, that seems pretty heartless.
But if you recalibrate it, you know, with that being a 10 so that we all agree, that's
a 10, then, you know, it just makes it a little bit easier for us to compare what we're doing
with each other.
I think that's wise.
The notes in the chart are really for the next person to read, but, or the attorney,
unfortunately.
Let's talk a little bit about extinction of pain, though.
Substance P, you want to talk about it a little bit?
You deal with substance P, right?
Yes.
Or am I putting me on the spot?
Well, a little bit on the spot.
So with the acupuncture, we work on both the peripheral and the end of central nervous system as far as pain control.
Yeah.
So you've got peripheral nerves that are stimulated.
And typically, if you're going to take an oral medication, an Advil, Tylenol, aspirins, those things help with the peripheral nervous system and affecting the substance P and how that's transmitted, right?
But the electric acupuncture actually stimulates the endogenous opioids in the brain.
The mu-opioids stimulating hormones.
Right.
So they're like opioids, right.
You said that.
Similarly, yeah.
So, you know, one of the things I love about what I do is speaking specifically for, you know, nerve pain, ridiculopathy, as we call them.
Let's say somebody's got a really bad shingles pain.
Yeah.
Okay.
Which is a really good example.
Or a discogenic pain.
So a disc is maybe pinched.
What we actually can do is by putting the acupuncturenees and the electrical stimulation to that,
we actually stimulate more of this substance and flood the spinal cord so that all of these pain,
this pain is dampened greatly, if not sometimes just turned off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Reregulate.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So substance P is this neurotransmitter that's thought to transmit pain signal.
You can deplete substance P, like in people who have shingles, and they have what's called post-herpetic neurology where you've got pain that persists even after the shingles are gone.
And it's just because those peripheral nerves are being stimulated.
You can put capsaicine cream on there.
It's cream that actually has red, the stuff that makes red peppers hot.
And when you rub it on the skin, the first couple of times it'll burn, obviously, because it's like rub.
having jalapinos on your skin.
And then if you keep doing it, it will deplete that substance, substance P, this neurotransmitter,
because you've just, you've used it all up.
And now you can't transmit pain signals anymore.
And then it makes the pain go away.
So you have to keep that stuff on there.
The interesting thing is that substance P, which is this neurotransmitter, also is involved
in inflammation, but also in mood.
and anxiety and learning.
So if you've got someone
that has horrible pain,
this may
affect their mood
and their anxiety level.
And so you get this whole syndrome
that we call chronic pain syndrome.
And blood pressure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So anyway, it's just kind of interesting.
So people who say, you know,
oh, that person's anxious
and they've got chronic pain
and there may be a reason for that.
They're being flooded
with this substance piece
stuff. So it's just one hypothesis
but very interesting. You got any questions?
Oh, wait. Well, let's do our gross stories.
Because we're actually running out of time. So who wants
to go first on this? We're not actually
competing today.
I've got a couple of questions. I did not bring a story.
Okay. There you go.
I can get
you want to do the questions?
Tacey, did you bring your
gross story? I have an interesting
psychological disorder. Okay. Okay. Oh,
I like it.
Well
Yeah, go ahead
Oh you mean
Oh, you were just talking about yourself
Yes
That's what she's her
That too
It's called the Jerusalem syndrome
And it occurs
When a visit to the Holy Land
Triggers Obsessive Ideas about religion
Really
And even messian
Messianic
Messianic delusions
The condition can affect anyone
Regardless of religion
Symptoms may include
compulsive cleaning and grooming, wearing white robes, and sermonizing.
Holy moly.
Suffers without a pre-existing psychiatric condition typically return to normal within five to seven
business days, or I'm, it doesn't say business days, sorry.
That's the old worker in me.
And they feel some shame about their behavior.
Wow, I've got a, yeah, I've got a psychiatric journal.
Acute psychotic state observed in tourists and pilgrims.
who visit Jerusalem.
Isn't that crazy?
What if you live there?
The main symptom of this disorder is identification with a character from the Bible
exhibiting behaviors which seem to be typical for this character.
Huh.
Three main categories of the syndrome were identified with special focus on the category,
unconjoined to previous psychopathology,
the pure form of the Jerusalem syndrome.
And, oh, wow.
Okay.
So they just give the diagnosis criteria.
I like how they're embarrassed after.
Yeah, that there's shame afterwards.
Wow.
Become psychotic after arriving in Jerusalem.
I bet they see this all the time.
People get off the plane and they get in their hotel room and then they start acting crazy and the people in the hotel are like, well, we got another one.
Another Jerusalem syndrome.
Isn't that something?
All right, very good.
Okay, well, we can't just go, wow, and sit here and read.
We have to actually put on a show.
I'm just imagining.
So to be fair, you didn't say grotesque in the prompt.
You said bring a fucked up.
That's exactly right.
You said a f-up story.
You said bring a fucked up story, right.
That changed me a little bit.
So I got a couple.
They're quickies.
Yeah, that's fine.
I didn't delve into a lot.
So number one, repeats the theme.
So there was a 2006 case.
Essentially, what I did was look at the worst malpractice cases.
in history for this.
So there was a 2006 case
where the anesthesiologist
administered during surgery
the paralytic but forgot to
give the patient the
true anesthetics and the
medications that help induce amnesia
so that you don't remember the...
Oh, no.
So the patient...
Oh, they paralyzed them? They paralyzed the patient
and operated on them. They were awake.
So about 20 minutes into the surgery,
they realized this guy's awake.
It's awful.
So he was feeling all of the pain, but he couldn't move.
He couldn't shout.
And I've heard of this happening.
That's the worst nightmare for people.
They're just called paralytic.
And what they do is they just shut off your ability to move.
And when you do that, you can't give somebody one of those unless they have ventilatory support because they will die.
They can't breathe.
They can't move.
They can't do anything.
But they are absolutely awake unless you don't ventilate them and then they'll faint and then eventually stop breathing and die.
so that's that is a nightmare don't they do that dear when they do the gas
or the uh or the death road for the inmates
they use they use potassium i think they get paralytic first they give them
propofal and then they give them potassium maybe they do parallelism too a couple of different
things that go in there i mean according to this this particular case the patient committed
suicide a couple weeks after i don't yeah i'm sure it was so traumatic yeah extremely
traumatic because you just think your life is one way and then all of a sudden you're just
being
operated.
Holy moly,
that's awful.
That's some civil war.
Yeah, I wonder
if, I mean,
that had to be traumatic
for them too.
I mean,
having your leg sawed off
just while your
other people are just
crowding around watching it.
I mean,
that would just have to be
disastrous.
Anyway,
you have some questions
from the waiting room,
right, Dr. Scott.
Let's do those,
and then Lydia,
save yours.
You're going to come back
next week?
I could, yeah.
Yeah?
Can you just come back
every week?
Not every week
So here's a thing
Like I don't have a babysitter
Right
So every other week
How old your kid?
She's two
She's old enough
Been a drill
I know
I've just never had a babysitter
So it's like my mother
Who's a bit passive aggressive
And doesn't like to babysit
Unless I'm working
In clinic
Bring her here
And Tacey will
Watch her one time
Or Beckwell or something
No I just
I really should get a
Like she needs to have
Other
Outside people
I've just
sheltered quite a bit. Okay, well, we can
talk about that. We'll figure it out. We might be able to
help you in that regard. All right. Okay.
So, either next week or the week after.
Yeah, next week is good. All right.
So, what do you have you got, Dr. Scott?
Yeah, so Bob Dandy was asking about
the difference between
a Dio and an MD, and he's got some
chronic lower back pain. Okay. I was wondering
our thoughts. Yeah. Okay.
Dio's an MD.
So Dio is Dr. Osteopathic
medicine, and then M.D. is
medical doctor. And then you have
MBBS. Those are people
who come from certain
other countries, and that's just what
they're thinking. I can't remember it's
master of biolot. I can't remember what
MBBS stands for.
But it's the same thing as MD.
Let's look it up real quick. Mbbs.
It is
Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery.
And
that is the, it's the same.
And when they come
here, once they get licensed, they'll
just get to call them MD.
They'll change it to MD because nobody knows what the hell in MBBS is in this country.
So now, the curriculum is exactly the same.
There are some parts of the country where all, mostly what they have is DOS.
When I was a kid in Michigan, my pediatrician, you know, the family general internist, the person who delivered me, they were all DOs.
And then in other parts of the country like the South, right here, there was a while before they accepted doctors of osteopathic medicine.
And that was unfortunate.
It was just some, you know, how things are.
There weren't a lot of schools here for it.
Right.
Right.
Now there are.
Now there are.
And when people like, well, we had an OBGYN come and he was a DO, he was the first DO OBGYN that got privileges here.
I was here when that happened in 1980.
80-something. Everybody loved him. And once they realized, well, okay, they're the same.
Then, then, and it actually opens up your pool of people you can hire.
Right. If you will also hire DOs and MDs. Now these days, I'd be interested in talking to
any DOs that have had any discriminatory practices against them when it comes to getting
hospital privileges. But I'm not aware of any anymore. So, but the thing about the DOs is they
have another part of their curriculum that MDs,
don't have, and that is
osteopathic manipulation.
Right. So they do, you know, muscle
energy stuff and they do manipulation.
It's not like, it's different than
chiropractic medicine. As a matter of fact, the
person who invented
osteopathic medicine.
A.T. Still. There you go.
Andrew Taylor still.
Mm, my age you something.
Give yourself a bill.
He had this method
where he would put people's, like if you
had hip pain, he would
get you on the table and he would manipulate you,
around until he found a position where the pain went away.
And then he just holds you there.
And, yeah, we had some sort of connection in that regard, going way back, Dr. Scott.
Anyway, it's a really fascinating thing.
I have absolutely no issue if you go to a doctor of osteopathic medicine and do some
of the things that they do.
Now, I will tell you, a lot of osteopaths, when they get out of osteopathic school,
they just, they don't do it anymore.
They don't do it anymore.
I was married to one.
So we were married during all of Dio school.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah.
And I didn't realize he would have a lot of females in his apartment practicing O-M.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's do a, I was married to one too.
Well, and so one of the.
Figuorous chest massage.
Yeah. Actually, though, so I was able to learn quite a bit from him.
And it does work, like the muscle energy techniques, things like that.
I mean, it's quite different from chiropractic.
Yes, very different.
But certainly, like you said, Dr. Steve, like the curriculum is the same.
The boards are essentially the same.
He took, like, the main internal medicine boards.
I'm getting ready to start a fellowship at a DO through a DO medical school or, you know,
osteopathic school.
And they actually want an MD to be the program director so that they can get MDs and DOs in the program.
So they're all together.
The programs here have DOs.
MD, you know, graduates, it's totally fine.
But if you can find one that'll do manipulation, if they like doing it, that's the ones.
That's exactly, and thank you for saying it.
And we have a friend who actually.
Yeah, I was going to, I was going to add to that.
So for old Bob Danny there, the MDs and DOs, as long as they know what they're doing,
they're going to be great.
Right.
The one benefit, and many MDs, you know, like Dr. Steve, can actually do some of those,
those really gentle manipulations.
Yeah, because I trained.
with Dios. So just
make sure, either way you go, just find somebody
knows what the hell they're doing. And they like to do
it. And they like to do it, right. That O.B.,
he, you know,
a lot of women have low back
pain when they're pregnant. And it's not only because of the weight,
but because there's a hormone called relaxin
that's changing the way that the muscles
and the ligaments around. Ripping their backside apart. Yeah, it does
that. And he could do
manipulation on their back that the MDs
didn't know how to do. The MDs just give him medicine or tell him, deal with it. And he could
get them up on there and flip him around and put his fist under their back and then twist them a
certain way and get their pain better. So, you know, there were things that he could do that
other people couldn't do. So, you know, it just really depends on the provider, but they do have
that in their curriculum that's beyond what MDs get. So it's pretty cool. Yeah. And I've got
one of a quick question for you, Dr. Stephen, you're the expert on this. So we've got, and I was trying
Let's see who. Doug,
Doug, unfortunately, has a pup that's got a big chelaison.
Chalazion.
Chalasian.
Chalasian.
Oh, my God.
So, unfortunately, yeah, he was just asking your thoughts about that.
Yeah, okay.
Well, it's just a bump on your eyelid, basically.
These things can also be called mybomian cysts, and I've had them.
And as a matter of fact, if you go to our YouTube channel, the one viral,
video that I've got is
Dr. Steve gets a Shalazion removed
and I had like 300,000 views
and then YouTube told me well you can't
monetize this because it's a surgical
procedure but anyway but you can go look at it
and very often
these oil glands become blocked
and the eyelid
and it'll cause a sty
and then when the sty resolves
it will leave behind this little
mass of fibrous tissue called a
chalazion and the way
that they remove it is crazy.
It sounds totally nuts, but you don't
want to take it out from the
eyelid side, you know, the skin side,
because if you do, you'll end up with a scar there.
So what they do is they flip
your eyelid, they invert
it, and then they'll
stick a needle in it where the Schlesion
is and fill it up with
numbing medicine.
Fluid. And then, yes, well,
it already has, it kind of has this, it's not
even fluid, it's kind of a, just a
fibrous mass. Yeah, yeah, kind of, yeah. But yes, they'll inject fluid pain medicine in there
to numb it up. And then they will cut a slit in the eyelid, but you want to do it from the top
of the eyelid to the lash part. You don't want to go sideways because that'll really screw it up.
But the fibrous structure of that is in that direction. So you just cut along the grain
and you open it up and just take a curate and scoop that sucker out of there
and you don't do anything else.
You put some antibiotic ointment on there and just go about your business.
And when it wears off, it hurts a little bit.
It's not that bad.
And the thing with me was when I used to get these chalaisians all the time,
they would be so big that they would distort my vision
because they would change the shape of my eyeball in a very subtle way,
but it was enough to mess my vision off.
so I would want to get, and they look stupid
too you've got a big lumpy, lumpy
eyelids. So surely they can help that puppy.
Yes, absolutely. Now, a puppy
isn't going to let you just sit there
and stick a needle in their eyelids.
They'll have to drug the puppy.
They'll have to put them to sleep.
I'm sorry, not put them to sleep.
That has a different connotation with dogs.
They'll have to give them general anesthesia.
Now, I'm going to tell you,
I had the most enraging
story that has to do with
having a Shalazian removed, not
with that doctor, but his partner.
And
I rotated with this guy.
He knew me, and
you know, I've known him for years.
I went to him. I had a Shalazian need to get it removed.
And
it turned out that this guy just liked doing
cataracts, so he didn't like doing all this kind of
bullshit, right, in the office.
So, but he comes in, he says,
okay, let's do it. And, you know,
when someone flips your eye
and sticks a needle in your eyelid,
you're going to grip the...
Yeah, you're going to have something.
You're going to white knuckle it a little bit, right?
Well, I had a book in my...
I had co-written, ghost written,
an archery book with a friend of mine.
Cool.
And he was 10-time indoor national champion.
I ghost wrote this book, published it,
but I had the brand new books,
and so I was flipping through it to proofread it
to make sure they were okay before we sold.
So I had it in my lap, right?
And he sticks this thing
in my eye and now he starts talking
to me like I am five years
old maybe not even five
maybe three and a half and he's like
oh are you the big archer
yes yes
you are oh you're the big
archer aren't you and I'm like
will you shut the fuck
up dude that was so weird
what the hell
I guess he was trying he saw me sort of white
knuckling but it's like dude just
just do it and shut up
don't talk to me
Are you the big
Is that what she's saying
The better?
Are you the big archer?
I'm going to start.
That's what, yeah, that's when she says
when we're strutting our stuff, yeah.
Big archer.
Are you the big archer?
Yes.
Give it to me, big archer.
That didn't end it really quick.
Oh my.
Yeah.
Oh, your arrow is so big.
Good stuff.
All right.
Got anything else?
Let's say let's wrap it up.
Yep, wrap, rap, right.
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