Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 533 - Sinking Stool v. Floating Feces

Episode Date: December 4, 2022

Dr Steve, Dr Scott, Chanda and Tacie disuss: proper ear lavage technique data on aflatoxin in seed oils soy pros and cons body part quiz why stool floats or sinks Please visit: stuff.doctorsteve.com (for all your online shopping needs!) simplyherbals.net  (now with NO !vermect!n!) (JUST KIDDING, Podcast app overlords! Sheesh!) roadie.doctorsteve.com (the greatest gift for a guitarist or bassist! The robotic tuner!) Weird Medicine: The Podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/medicine (Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self!) Also don't forget: Cameo.com/weirdmedicine (Book your old pal right now while he’s still cheap! "FLUID!") noom.doctorsteve.com (the link still works! Lose weight now before swimsuit season is over!) Most importantly! CHECK US OUT ON PATREON!  ALL NEW CONTENT! Robert Kelly, Mark Normand, the O&A Troika, Joe DeRosa, Pete Davidson. Stuff you will never hear on the main show ;-) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm going to be the announcer for the award show. Oh, I knew you'd be something. So I'm very excited about that. Well, I'm the only one I told... He's the one crazy enough to do it. No, I told Carl, I'm the only one of the bunch that's even got an approximation of a radio voice. So I can do the whole Michael Buffer thing, everything.

So I did that on Vinny Loves Wrestling. That's a great podcast. And I did a Michael Buffer impersonation for that. That's, you know, get, let's get rid. Well, anyway, I don't want to do it here. Do it. No. No.

No. I say no. Say no. You can't take those. Tacey, just go listen to Vinny Loves Wrestling. Google Edits. There's a podcast you can hear it. There you go.

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The nasal spray. And his nasal spray. I want to try the fatigue reprieve and see if it's better than the shit I've been taking for my narcolepsy because I about fell asleep 20 times on the way home today. Yep. So I've got to find that dose that carries me through the day. And doesn't make you crazy? And doesn't make me crazy.

He's not sleeping at night either. I did last night, though. We'll have a talk about that. Anyway, okay. Let's talk about that. Check us out on patreon.com slash weird medicine. We just had Chad Zumach on there, and we analyzed him, which was very interesting. It's not published yet.

It will be very soon because I've got to do a lot of editing on that one. And then we've had, who we had, Tase? I don't know. Okay. Thank you for your help. Pete Davidson. Yes. We had the Troika of Opium Anthony, Greg Hughes, Anthony Coomia, and Jim Norton.

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Just saying no, Dr. Steve. So, anyway, and then check out cameo. I did one. If you want me to say fluids to your mama for Christmas, just go to... Who wouldn't want that? Cameo.com slash weird medicine. It's cheap. You're right.

I'll make fun of how cheap you are for purchasing that as a gift for somebody. He loves them. Do it. It is fun. It's really fun to do. So anyway. All right. Anybody got anything else?

Nope. All right. So, Chanda, you're about ready to retire, right? She actually has three more weeks before she's retired with me. Oh, yeah. Yes. But you're retiring on purpose, though. Right?

I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I kind of did too, Steve. I mean, prayers, thoughts and prayers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she was sad when her prayers were answered. But now she's happy. I'm so happy.

Well, you can mourn the loss of a relationship without, even if the relationship sucked. I know when I moved out from my ex-wife, and I've told the story on here, I mean, I cried when I left, but I was mourning not leaving her. That was like, that was a very good thing. I mean, when you and your ex split up, where did you shed any tears, Dr. Scott? Oh, God, yes. See? Hell, yeah. But you were mourning.

My bank account? Well, that. Well, there was that. There was that, too. But I was mourning what could have been, and you get into a routine. And so, yeah, you're mourning that sort of idealized relationship. Agreed. Failure.

That's what I thought. Yes. Like, I didn't succeed. Yeah. Yeah. And that's bullshit, because it didn't really have anything to do. with winning or losing or failing or succeeding. It just is what happened.

But anyway, it did, yeah. So we've all experienced that. So that means 50% of the people in this room were going to be retired in a week. Yeah. And the other 50% are going to be carrying out. And the two oldest ones are not retired. That's true.

How's that work? Yeah. That ain't right. So Chen and I are going to pick a good rehab to go to. We're just going to need a couple of suggestions. We probably can't. go together though no they won't let us will they no because you guys will be drinking and doing everything and you'll be dry drunk together why don't you do rehab let's see where could you do

at lake tahoe at just get a nice hotel and just hang out there and say it's rehab okay i'm good with that yeah can we write that all yeah and then i can hang out with my girlfriend and then yeah good for you you get her next week. Yeah. He's about 6'1. Oh, because you're going to be gone. I got suckered into Vegas.

Gray-headed with a beer. I don't know how that happened, but I did. Yeah, my girlfriend is sitting right there next to me. It's about 6.1. 210 pounds of a full. All right. Well, check out Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net. Simplyherbils.net.

And don't forget Cardiff Electric. It was his anniversary. Two weeks before I said it was his anniversary. So happy belated anniversary. And this week, it's not Cardiff's birthday or his anniversary. It is a shout out

to Kinky Loco. It's Kinky Loco's birthday today. Oh, happy birthday. That's probably a lot, too. I don't even know if it is or not. One of these days, it'll be right. I got a one in 365 chance. So we have a ton of phone calls. We've been bullshitting

the last couple of shows, so let's, why don't we just do a crap load of phone calls? Okay. You want to? Let's do it. All right. Well, first thing. Number one thing, don't take advice from some asshole on the radio.

All right. And now, I've got the first couple are a quiz for you guys. Okay. And we'll see who gets them right. See if I can give you a bell. I'm out. Give yourself a bill. That's what you're going for.

So we're going for. Okay. Yep. All right. And you don't have to shout it out. We'll go around the table. We'll just say who's right. Okay.

All right. Number one question. Here we go. I think. Uh-oh. Oh, probably should have tested this. What is the fastest responding muscle

in the human body? That's a great question. See you. Thank you. Thank you, Stacey Deloge, who is back from his, you know, sabbatical. His fias.

His forced sabbatical. He's doing very well. He is volunteering with a bunch of biker guys, because, you know, he's a biker. and he is volunteering to give, I don't know, I think it's in New Orleans, but I'm not sure doing meals for the homeless and stuff. So, you know, we all have different facets.

Stacey's an awesome guy, and he's doing good things out there. So we appreciate him. And this is a great question. So we'll go around the room. The fastest responding muscle in the human body. Dr. Scott, do you have an idea? I'd say the muscles of the eye, the iris

the iris okay I'm going to give you a one in the but you are close Tacey Don't know

Don't care Damn it Well that's because You're an idiot All right Chanda The tongue Oh that's a

Let me guess Well that is very interesting Please tell me more Just don't go There's so many Chanda-slash-tong jokes that you could come up with. Scott was the closest, though, so I will give him this. Give yourself a bill! It's the orbicularis oculi, and that is the muscle that makes you blink.

You can blink in, like, microsec or, you know, milliseconds to an assault that's coming at the eye. You will blink faster than you can think. That's all I had it. Honestly, thought that just didn't say it. Really? Oh, really? Honestly. That was a guy once. And Tacey, you bring up an interesting thing.

When you go to Vegas, you can try this. Oh, good. So this old guy stood next to the craps table, right? And he didn't bet. And it was craps table or roulette. I can't remember it. Actually, okay, let me back up. It was a roulette table.

It doesn't matter. don't know why I made you do that. Kevin Meaney used to tell this thing about you tell a joke and then you get to the end of it and you go, oh, wait a minute, his nose was this long. You know, there was information you needed to make the joke work. This was not that. So he's standing there at the roulette table and the croupier is doing his thing. And then when it goes on red, he says, oh, I bet on black in my head.

And the group, you know, the guy that spins the wheel is like, well, okay. who cares. And he spins it again, and it comes up red. And he goes, do. I bet on black in my head again. And then he gives the guy a $5 chip. And the guy says, no, I can't take that. He said, no, no, no, no.

I'm an honest man. I bet on black in my head. And it came up red. I want to pay. And this guy was inexperienced, and he took the chip from him. The next time he does it, it ends up on 35. and the old guy goes, oh, that's awesome.

I bet a hundred bucks on $35 in my head. And he wanted him to pay him off. The mistake, the Crupier, I think it's the Crippier, the Crippier do craps or, or, it's been so long, I forgot. The guy that spins the wheel. The mistake he made was taking that guy's $5 chip

because the second he did that, he validated the imaginary betting that he was doing, and they ended up having to pay the guy off $3,500. Oh, that's something. Something to know for next week. Yeah, it won't work, but it was back probably in the Old West where, you know, this actually worked. There was a company meeting the next day. Oh, yeah.

Don't take imaginary bets. You say you have to make it a tip. But anyway. So, okay, so here's another one. He's got another one. Scott will get this one. Okay. This week's question.

Hi, Casey. Okay. Hello. Hello. Yeah, the hippie the sister. year rat, yeah, man. Anyway. What did he say?

He just shit on Scott. Oh, okay. Yeah, and he'd be the sister rat. Yeah, man. Anyway. Because Scott's always shitting on him whenever he calls in, so there you go.

You got something. Hope you well. Thank you. That's good. Likewise. Anyway, what body part continues to grow

until the day you die? Oh, I know that one. I thought I do, too. Well, we'll get to you. Okay, well, let's, Tacey got the imaginary one, right? So, Tacey. The nose. Okay, let me see if that's right.

I'm not going to say, because if I do, then everybody will know the answer. That's what I was going to say. The nose. Two noses, three noses. Okay, I'll give you these. Give yourself a bill. But there is another answer, the ear as well. And it's any structure that is primarily made of cartilage will continue to grow until you die.

And that's why you see all these old people with these big giant schnauzes. And that's when I would want to get mine taken care of, because some people grow more than others. What about nose jobs? Does that cut that off? Well, it cuts off some of the cartilage, but you still have curtilage in there. So it still continues to grow. Yeah, but it'll grow from there. Well, I'll be getting another one.

It's just like your boob's continued to grow. Be getting another one of those, too. No, okay, the day we get divorced. But if you had not gotten a reduction mammoplasty, your boobs would be, you know, even bigger than they were, which I would have been happy with. But because you did, you know, they continued to grow, but now they've just kind of grown back to where they were before, which is awesome. Awesome. So, anyway. All right, boobs are good.

There's nothing wrong with boobs. Tacey hates boobs. anyway all right here's a question hey Dr. Steve I'm J from Ohio I just listened to the episode

with Vinny Tortolich and I got to say whenever Benny talks he really sounds like my ooh science pseudoscience spidey sense just goes off

me too dude but the crazy thing was is that a lot of the stuff that he said that I doubted and I checked I just did a quick check all of them had validity to them. I've got papers here, and I will get Vinny on again,

and I'll have my studies. He'll have his, and we'll discuss. But I'm going to do a little bit of an analysis, but go ahead. He uses lots of words like CO2 carbon or GMOs are bad. And one thing that you've talked about a lot is risk to individual risks of the population. Yes, sir. And when he says that seed oil is bad, what I don't hear, is at what dose, how much worse is it? And is this really where the average person needs to focus

on for their health? Right, because what Vinny's thing is that there is some risk, so just go with something that he feels doesn't have any risk. I did do some research since then because, you know, it's stuff. I don't, hell, they don't teach us about nutrition medical school. Chanda's shaking her head, too. Yeah, vitamins and alternative medicine. You don't get that. Yeah. Well, alternative medicine. You know, alternative medicine that works is mainstream medicine. You're doing, when you do Botox, you're doing something that at one time was very alternative. Sure.

You know, and now it's accepted. The heart cath was alternative. Oh, sure, sure. Well, thinking that ulcers could be caused by bacteria that live in the stomach was a very alternative theory hypothesis that was later proven true. And I remember a gastroenterologist who you and I both know, Tase, saying, oh, there's no way a bacteria could cause an ulcer. I remember that. He was so sure of him, so. You know, so anyway.

Then I made a lot of money proving him wrong. Yep, there you go. Good girl. Is that the magic bullet? And it just, I hope I'm wrong, and maybe he's a genius. And I'm just looking to me, he just shows a lot of logical palaces around, like the The Palsy of Orges, the dietary science, and stuff. Yeah, he's not a Dr. Ian Smith, who I hear him, you know, just making statements that I just don't feel like they're supported in the literature, but he'll make them very definitively.

But the thing about Vinny is he has changed his thoughts about stuff over the years. And I think he does a lot of reading. And, you know, like I said, I appreciate the fact that I had no idea that plastics have, you know, are secreting estrogen into our water supply when we drink out of a water bottle. But my question, again, was, is it, does it matter? Is it clinically relevant that water bottles have, do have estrogen-like molecules in them that are, you know, deposited in? into the fluid that's in them. And I, I mean, I prefer sort of the metal vacuum bottles anyway, so I don't drink out of plastic water bottles,

but is it enough? Because detectable doesn't mean it's harmful. We put up with a certain amount of insect parts in our oatmeal. There's all kinds of things that if we had, you know, nanotechnology to, you know, that we could detect down to nanogram amounts. There's all kinds of stuff in our water. There's people flush some of their medicine down the toilet and you'll get statins.

They're detectable in the water supply, you know, cholesterol medications. Is it enough to cause a problem? It doesn't seem to be. So I don't know. Wasn't that something with Cheryl Crow when she had breast cancer with the water bottles and are my just like? Is that where I came up? Is that where it came up?

I just remember that from a few years ago that, and I could be imagining this, but she left her water bottles in a hot car and they warmed up and then secreted these chemicals into it and then she would drink them later. It would be a hypothesis. But the thing is, okay, so for example, if you give a woman, a post-menopausal woman, estrogen, right? that increases their risk of breast cancer by about 1 in 10,000. So instead of having a 1 in 11 chance or 1 in 10 chance of getting breast cancer, you get a 1 in 11.001, right?

So you can't really ever say that a certain breast cancer was caused by that. You could say it certainly it increased the risk of having it. but breast cancer is a one in ten one and eleven thing for all women anyway so when you have something that's that prevalent and you've got something that adds a little bit of risk can you then say well this is what caused it and I don't think you can you know yeah and there's no guarantee but we want to mitigate risk yeah there's no reason she wouldn't have got it

or was going to get to anyway correct we don't know we don't know if she's awful burke up positive you know if she would genetic we weren't testing for it then I don't think But it is, I mean, we want to mitigate risk because, listen, if you increase breast cancer by one point in, you know, one in 10,000 cases, and you multiply that times 100 million women, that's a lot of cases that you could have prevented. So I'm not saying we shouldn't prevent that. But when it comes to the individual, like this guy says, it's a lot harder to say, yeah, this is the thing that caused it. Certainly increased the risk, but we don't know. Well, that was my gift of choice this year

Was a large water bottle like the one that you have? Yeah. I thought that was so cool and that was my gift of choice And then he comes on there and it's like It's already been ordered, so. Well, that's fine. Yeah. We have, I can get you metal vacuum bottles too.

You know, we have weird medicine vacuum bottles. I already spent the money. Okay. Yeah, that'd be fine. You don't care if your friends get cancer. No. So, well, let's finish this guy's phone call. to help prove me wrong

and that he is a good guy to listen to. No, he is a good guy. He's a good guy. He means well and you can't go wrong following the things that he says. If he says

seed oils are bad and you switch to olive oil and avocado oil, you're not going to harm yourself doing that. It just, he may be overstating the risk and that's a possibility.

So I looked into it. I looked into seed oils. I think the thing that he is worried about with seed oils are these things called aflatoxins. And these are a family of toxins that are produced by fungi that are found

on agricultural crops like corn, peanuts, cotton seed, and tree nuts. And it doesn't really matter what the main fungi are, but they're very familiar names that you will recognize and it's aspergillus Flavis and paracidicus.

They're abundant in worm, regions of the world and they contaminate crops in the field and during storage so when you store the grains these stupid things now so the you can get it exposed to these aflatoxins by eating contaminated plant products such as peanuts or consuming meat or dairy products from animals that ate them so they these things are stable farmers and other agricultural workers may be exposed by inhaling dust generated during the handling etc etc now what's cancers are associated associated with aflatoxins, liver cancer.

That's the main one. Ugh. So you can reduce aflatoxin exposure by buying only major commercial brands of nuts and nut butters by discarding any nuts that look moldy discovered or shriveled. And the U.S., the FDA test foods that may contain aflatoxins such as peanuts and peanut butter. And to date, no outbreak of human illness caused by aflatoxins has been reported in the United States, but they've occurred in some developing countries.

So, and that is from the NIH National Cancer Institute, not some, you know, shitty rag somewhere. So I think, you know, I'm sure that the FDA is testing canola oil for aflatoxins and would yank them from the shelves if they found any. Oh, shoot, yeah. So I think that if that's what he's worried about, the risk is pretty minimal. Now, do I use a lot of avocado? I've got to stop asking questions and answering. Yes, I use a lot.

I've been doing that a lot. Do I do this? Yes, I do. That's a ridiculous way to speak. We use a lot of avocado oil. We found a supplier. Well, it's the Asian store in town. The avocado oil they have there is way cheaper than anywhere else.

And then, you know, we use olive oil, too. And really high quality, very, Extra virgin olive oil can be used for cooking. Don't anybody tell you that it can't. You just got to get the good stuff. You can't buy the crummy stuff in the can, you know, off-brand stuff that's in the supermarket that says, you know, extra virgin olive oil. Yeah, yeah, right. Now, let's talk, he talked a lot about soy, that soy is an abomination.

And that was the one thing I took exception to. I said, there's a billion people in this world that eat soy every single day. It's their main staple. But there's also, like, for people who have PCOS, they always guard against soy. Yes, because of the soy isoflavones. Whatchamacolet that's in it? Very good. I'll give you a bell.

Give yourself a bill. Soy, what you call it? Yeah, because estrogen, right? That's in it. They're estrogen-like properties. So I'm going to talk about that. And that is, if you want to minimize your exposure to estrogen, soy and sweet potatoes, may be one way to do that.

You know, they have soy isoflavones. They're often thought to mimic female reproductive hormone estrogen. As a matter of fact, some of the estrogens that you can buy are derived from soy products, but they're highly extracted and then they're manipulated chemically. They're similar in structure to this hormone. Soy isoflavones have weaker and different effects than estrogen. Most studies find no negative effect with regard to breast or endometrial cancer. They've done studies on this.

And there have been some cases where they offered some protection against certain cancers. So we've talked about this before, Scott, that there are certain things we've talked about in the show that are, you know, protect against one cancer but increase the risk of the other one. So, you know, on thyroid function test tube and animal studies suggest that some compounds found in soy, may reduce thyroid gland function, yet human studies found little or no negative effects, especially in humans with healthy thyroid function.

So one of the other concerns is feminization in men. If you eat soy, you're going to get gynecomastia, aka man boobs. And human studies found a very weak link between soy and reducing the production of male hormone testosterone. So I'm not very concerned about that. Just give your testosterone checked. Some fierce soy formula may negatively affect brain, sexual thyroid, or immune development in babies.

Studies typically fail to observe any long-term negative effects of soy formula and healthy full-term babies. Now, soybeans are often genetically modified, and a GMO soy may contain fewer nutrients and more herbicide residues than conventional or organic. soy. So they need to do more research on that. Just say I don't want GMO if that's the problem. Understand, though, every single thing that we eat is genetically modified. Every ear of corn that you've ever had, even though it's not genetically modified in the lab, it is genetically modified just through Mendelian genetics. Okay? So Mendelian genetics is when you take two little corn looking things and you breed the two biggest

ones together to make a slightly bigger one until you get this giant corn hybrid thing that we eat that's very tasty. But if you look at the original corn plant, I mean the things it's like those mini corns. So even smaller in that.

You know, so these things are all genetically modified. All the tomatoes we eat, but it's Mendelian genetics. We seem to think that's okay. When you take a virus and insert a gene in something to make it more resistant to drought so it can exist in a drier place and you send it overseas and sell it, then that's a problem. But that's what they're doing with a lot of those things. I do know that some of the GMOs that they've sent overseas were designed to make people overseas by fertilizer.

I get that. And that's a manipulation that I'm not in favor of, but I'm in favor of science in general. Now, soybeans do contain compounds that may lower the body's ability to absorb the vitamins and minerals they contain. Soaking, sprouting, fermenting, and cooking are ways to reduce these entry nutrient levels in soy. So if you're just not eating raw, you know, just don't only eat etymar. And even that's steamed. Yeah. You know.

So anyway. All right. All right. Crazy talk. Yeah. These concerns are common. Few of them are supported by sound science because it was funny. And Tacey and I talked about this last.

show. As soon as we went off the air, I went downstairs, and I cooked fried tofu in canola oil, in an aluminum pan. That's what our plan was. It was a Vinnie. Yeah, it was a Vinny Tortorich nightmare. Yes. But we love Vinny, and we'll have him on anytime he wants to come on. Great guest. And check him out at Vinny Tortorich.com. And it's T-O-R-I-C-H. And he has a new movie out about the impossible burgers and beyond meat stuff, which actually was pretty good, because we've discovered this as well, that those things, you know, Chanda, you weren't here, what would be a reason why you would choose beyond meat instead of, or, you know, let me say, one of these fake meat things instead of regular meat? Well, there's probably a couple of things. My sister,

for example, just doesn't like the taste of real meat. She likes the texture, but not that. actual taste. I would say that would be the number one reason to do it if you just prefer it. And then the other would maybe be calories if it's lesser in calories than, I don't know. They have more carbs. You know, meat generally

has zero carbs. This stuff does. And it's as far as the fat content, it's not better, really. It's not more healthy for you. And the crazy thing is that I said, well, what about, you know, someone just doesn't want to kill cows, but

they like meat. And he says, you've got to see how they harvest these, the plants. They use these threshers and it just leaves a holocaust of animals in its wake, you know, rabbits, groundhogs, just all kinds of stuff. When you think about that. Snakes. I never even thought of that. I didn't either. Stop, Scott.

For God's sake. Chupacabras. Save the snakes. Chippocobras. Yeah, werewolves. Yes, yes, yes. So anyway, I thought that was really interesting. So he made some really, he made some good points on that stuff.

He's thought about it. Some of the ground up protein, you know, from bugs and stuff is actually good for you. Yeah, sure. I mean, well, there's no bugs that, well, you mean that they get by accident? Yes, correct. You're being funny. Okay, I get it. All right.

The protein. Very good. All right. Should we move on from that? Yes, we should. Okay. Good question, though. Hello, Dr. Steve, Dr. Scott.

Hope y'all are doing all right. Hey, man. How are you? Hey, man. Leah Lydia That took my hat to you Hello So Dr. Steve

Yes I have a question I've been scouring the internet For quite some time now Maybe about a month or two Looking for Proper methods Wait a minute

Do that again What you just did Did you remember that that's I thought you were going to pour that in the Coke You're actually drinking vodka out of a plastic estrogen cup? She's sipping. Correct. And I warmed it in my car

before I got here. Okay. She's sipping. She's sipping. All right. I'm so sorry. I got you back, Tanda. I got you back. To clean out my ears thoroughly, not using the aforementioned Q-tip method that is so bad for your ears

according to the internet and most doctors that I... It just doesn't work and then you're just going to damage your eardrum when you But it feels so good, Steve. The aforementioned Q-tip method that is so bad for your ears, according to the Internet, and most doctors that I've seen in ads. Right. If they're really doctors.

Right. Anyways, I've heard of you guys talking about oral hygiene, nasal hygiene, general hygiene. But I do not recall hearing the proper method to have your ears clean. And of all of the research I've done, there's multiple different silicone or rubber tools, but they all have the same amount of pros and cons as each other. So my question is, what tool would you recommend, if any, to clean out ears thoroughly without pushing the earwax? Yeah, I got it. That's a really good question. It is a very good question.

It's a very practical question. I'm an earwax pusher. Yeah, so we've all figured out. The Q-tip just sucks. It's like... But it feels so good. It does feel so good. You stick that thing in there.

Every morning. And even if you get wax on it, you can see it's just smeared on there. You know, you're just smearing it against the canal wall, so you're not cleaning your ear. Now, what about the tissue, the ones with the... Ear candle? No. They're more like a sponge than the fiber. Well, the ones that have...

have the tip on it, but it'll only let you go so far. Like the baby ones. Yeah, like for the babies. It looks like a corkscrew. Okay. So, listen, Q-Tips are fine for cleaning the helix of the ear. That's the outside of the ear. If you go inside the canal, you're going to be committing a crime against your ears, really.

And it doesn't clean them out. So you don't need, the ear will clean itself out. That's what wax is for. It's secreted and it's supposed to just come out a little bit at a time and it traps, you know, particles of dust and stuff that get in there. And then it eventually just kind of schmoozes out very, very slowly and invisibly, really. Some people, like me, secrete enough that sometimes it'll clog up your ear canal. And then you can't hear. And now you stick a Q-tip in there and you just jam it in there further.

and now it's pushing on your eardrum, and you've got a problem. If you keep pushing, you can actually puncture the eardrum. I've seen it. So if you have that kind of issue where you need to get globs of wax out, the best way to do it is by, you know,

using fluid in your head. That was why I was burbling around because I wanted to get to the reaper. Yes, using fluid. and when we have someone come into the office, Chanda, you did primary care for a while, right? I loved to flush ears. It was the greatest thing. We had this giant silver basin.

Yeah, basin and a giant silver syringe. And you could fill it up with water and you would hold the basin up to the person's ear and tell them to just bend a little bit toward you. And then you pull the back of their ear back, yeah, up and back. And then that straightens out the canal. And then you can shoot this fluid in just along the top or the bottom of the canal or the side. And you don't want to shoot it in straight. You want to go just a little bit to the canal side. So it's going up against the skin, hitting the eardrum, and then curling back into the basin.

And you get these giant globs of wax. And all of a sudden the person can hear again. It's so rewarding. It is very rewarding. And I'm not even the peasant. patient, but just to wash those ears when it's like... Yes, and then the patient's very

thankful too. Yeah, and it doesn't hurt, and... Thrombost external hemorrhoids, ear wax, and impacted toenails are the three people that when they come in, they're miserable, when they walk out, they're done, and those are your most

grateful patients. Now, the thromost external hemorrhoid being number one, because they can't walk when they come in, and when they leave, they're completely pain-free. Probably so, but I never got to do any of those things. You didn't? No, no hemorrhoids here. I can teach you how to do it.

Well, anybody here? You got hemorrhoids we can practice on. I'm good, thank God. That's your own. I thought you were retiring. I am. She's still going to work. I would still do ingrown toenails all day. I love ingrown toenails.

I love them. Now, would you, we'll get to this guy's question the second. Scott, don't let us forget we need to answer his question. Because there is a way you can do that at home. Would you do? the whole toe nail or were you just doing a slice of toenail? No, I only did the slice. Yeah, I think that's the right way to do.

In the office, yeah. Now, the cool thing about when you do the sliced toenail is, so what we're talking about, y'all, is we would numb up the toe all the way around and then you can take a toe slizer, toenail slicer, and you just hook it to the front of the

nail and run it back, and you run it back all the way under the cuticle, and you can just pull that piece off. And instead of taking the whole toenail off, and then if it's recurrent you could take a thing called a curate and scrape the bottom of the nail bed and then use

there was some chemical that we used it was so long ago I can't remember the name of it but it was caustic and you'd put that on there and scrape that on and then you'd put it on and scrape it until you didn't see anything else anymore and that would grow up and their toenail would grow back

up to that edge of that nail and they'd never have an ingrown toenail again so if you have recurrent tone nail. Those are awful. It is awful. And you get that proud flesh they call it, it's big giant, you know, thing, Taranekia. Leaking over the tone is.

Yeah, it's awful. I've seen people with multiple ones, and they were just living with it. It's like, you don't have to live this way. So they're very thankful. But anyway, yes, let's get back to this person's ear problem. You can buy a kit that you could do this. The easy one, and the cheap one is the Murine ear kit. CVS, Walgreens, they all have

their own version. It's got a little bulb syringe and it has a little tube or a little bottle of glycerin with hydrogen peroxide in it. And the glycerin lubricates with the hydrogen peroxide

foams up. So the way you do this is you lay down and watch Seinfeld basically. Or the office. Or the office. You lay down with the bad ear up and still just fill up the canal you know when it's full

with these drops and keep laying down so it's always that ear is up so that it'll hold that fluid in there and you'll feel it bubbling up and you just watch Seinfeld

or the office that's about the right amount of time and when the show is over then you stand up and that stuff will run out and grab it with a towel or something a paper towel and then you go to the sink

fill up the sink with body temperature water It shouldn't be any warmer. It could be a little warmer, but not hot. And then you use the bulb syringe. Now you turn that bad ear down. And use the bulb syringe, fill it up, and you stick the tip in the ear, and then do, like I said, don't shoot it straight in, kind of in an angle into the ear canal, gently at first until you get a feel for it. And then you can do it a little bit more and a little more.

And all of a sudden you'll see a glob of earwax plop out into the sink, and you'll be able to hear again. And that's it. So that's the proper way to do it now. I see now that they've got kits that are similar to what we had, Chanda, but it has a little handle on it, a trigger, so that you can do it like a windex bottle. Not like a little activator, so it wouldn't like you shoot too much in one time.

Yeah, and then you can do like a index bottle and kind of just pump it up and do it that way. So you can buy all kinds of different kits. I've seen ones that are being sold now that have a little screw-type spring on them, and they're wanting you to stick that in your ear and twist it around. I'm not recommending that until I see that those are safe because you're still shoving something in your ear. The nice thing about this is the tip of the nozzle only goes into the very end of the ear canal, you know, the outside part. Okay? That's a good question.

Excellent question. Yes. Because we killed, you know, 10 minutes on it, so that's always good. That's great. All right. Okay, here we go. For your post- Thanksgiving thought, which one is better? Poop that sinks or poop that floats.

Oh, my God. All right, excellent question. Anybody, Dr. Scott? We'll go, okay, Tasey, you got your hand up. Go ahead, Tase. I heard poop that floats has a lot of fat in it. Ooh. Ooh.

Ooh. Give yourself a bill. So why do things float in water? They have to be less dense than the water, right? Scott, you got anything on this? I'll take a sinker. Okay. Chanda, you have anything?

What's the other thing, though, that could make poop less dense than water, hence would make it float? So fat is one of them. What's the other one? Ooh, really? I don't know. Fiber. Yeah, I mean, like, Lou Stool, maybe, like if it was just... Oh, I know that guy.

Well, Lou, he's a good. Gas, air. Lill Stool. Daribe? Air, air and your poopy. No, air. I mean, flat, gas in the turd. Yeah.

So... Oh, okay. Like, it's trapped inside. Yeah, it's mixed up inside it. So it's per absorption of nutrients, a.k.a. fat malabsorption, which could be you could have a gallstone and have that. You could have difficulty metabolizing or breaking down fats in your gut.

Pancreatic problems can do that too, you know, a deficiency of pancreatic enzymes. So if you see oil floating around the top of the water and your stools are floating, then you should go be evaluated and they'll do a stool for fat and then they can diagnose. And that's basically, sorry, you shit in a bucket for a day, and then they determine how much fat is in there. And if there's too much fat in there over a certain threshold, then they can diagnose fat malabsorption. Then they've got to just figure out what's causing it. You know, is it, you know, any of the things that we mentioned already. And then if it's, if it isn't and you're, you know, your stools are floating, you're just gassy.

Try taking an abino. I mean, at that point, then who cares? You know, you're just gassy. You're just a farter. Or you've been taking Xenicale. Farter. Oh, Zenacal. Oh, talk about Zeneca.

Oh, back in the day when all the drug reps were taking that. Yeah, do you remember our friend, so talk about what Xenacal was. It was an, well, go ahead. You talk about it. Yeah, so it was a prescription strength fat blocker, basically. So you just shit. Right. Like grease.

Right. That looked like the grease on top of a pepperoni. We had a friend who was a drug rep, and this was before you knew her when she was my friend, before she went loony. And she was very attractive. And she was going to do a lunch with somebody, and she was on this Zeneca stuff. Oh, no. And she just felt like she had to pass fletus. And she absolutely shit all over herself.

And she had nice, you know, beautiful green dress. It's back when we all wore suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she had to turn around and change her clothes. I did the same thing. I shit myself at work one day. Can't trust your farts on that. No, if you take that stuff, then, or what was the stuff that was in those chips that they did for a while?

It was an unabsorvable plant. Yeah, something like that. I don't remember. It was an unabsor. It was the fat-free chips. What about the jips? generic version what was it called? Olastran. That's it.

Oh, Lestran. Yes, that's it. Thank you. Thank you. But what was the generic version of Zinacal? Ali? Yeah, was that over it. Was it? Allie was over the counter. And then Zinacal was the prescription string. Yes. So, I mean, it was the same thing. Which one was over the counter?

The alley. Oh, Ali. Right, right. Or Ali, whatever was in that. I wonder if you can still get that. I don't know. I haven't checked. But Olestran, that was one where also you were shitting out grease, if you ate too much. Wouldn't hurt to lose a couple pounds for the holidays. You want to take some holiday?

Stay home. Yeah. She's got, where's she going? Oh, yeah, you're retired. Was it A-L-L-I-E? A-L-L-I, I think. Loganfield says A-L-L-O-E.

Loganfield is on there? Hello, John. Yeah, you can still get it. He said, shake your phone. He sent you picture. I don't know that I want it. No, you don't want it, but you can still get it. We should have Loganfield on.

I don't know if he wants us to talk about it, but he had a really interesting thing, but the treatment for it was a million, like $2.4 million. I don't have anything from you on my phone, dude, sorry. It's, you can get it at Walgreens. You can get it at Amazon. Okay.

And it's generic name is Orlostat. Orlestat. Which is interesting, because that's kind of the same name as the stuff in the... Olastrian. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I don't know.

I did lose a lot of weight on it. Anyway, if you want to shit out. orange oh there's another way that do you know here's a good quiz do you know what food you could eat let me say at a seafood restaurant that

would do the same thing there is a fish I'm asking this question very oh I was just going to say hush puppies but you know there's a fish that if you eat more than six ounces of it you will

poop out orange oil and it will be because it's very fatty or I mean obviously It's yummy though It's yummy Hold on Let's see here

I don't have any thinking music so I just have the sexy music Can't Google it Tacey I just googled fish you can't eat too much Yeah Okay well you're ready for the answer Swordfish It's not swordfish

Sea bass Nope, it's not sea bass. It is Escalar. And it's also called Butterfish. And I've seen it on the menu before. I went to a restaurant. And they actually had Escalar there, and it was an eight-ounce fillet. And it's like, you can't serve more than six ounces of this stuff.

Because when you get over six ounces, it's delicious. But the fat in it cannot be absorbed by the human body goes straight through you. And you'll just be up all night, just shitting out orange oil. Well, that makes me want to try it now. Me too. Let's go. It was close. Can we plan a trip? Yeah, let's plan a trip.

Yeah, plan a trip to go eat Escalar. We could... Going to Abingdon, by God. God, if we just had a stunt boy or girl on this show, we could get them to eat some Escalar. We got Chanda. She'll do anything. Give it to Chanda. She'll eat anything.

She's like Mikey. All right. All right, here's one for Dr. Scott. Dr. Steve. Yes. Dr. Scott. Hopefully all of you were there. If not, then only some of you were there.

Hey, really quick, I had called earlier and talked about this horrific pain in my head and how insane it was making me and all the treatments I had done. Well, here's an update. I continued to have the pain, started to look at getting other relief, and then decided I would go to I had to go to take a trip and when I went on the trip

I felt better and I don't know why so I get home and I start feeling sick again and I would blame my wife but I love her so anyway it was her I realized that the only thing that changed and I did a

you know I did what I could but the only thing that had changed is I purchased this neuropathy roll on for my feet and I started putting it on and when I stopped doing it when I was home the pain went away okay don't do it had eucalyptus

it had tea tree oil it had very see when he was saying neuropathy roll on I thought I was thinking of something like for maybe he was saying really what he had was plantar fasciitis he was rolling so this was actually a a drug that he was rolling. Natural things, which is what they touted.

Okay. I don't know what the deal was, but I haven't used it since. Actually threw it away, and I feel great. I'm still in pain, but God knows it's better than it was. Yeah. Hope we can talk about it. Thanks.

Bye-bye. Well, I don't know which one caused this. I do know that tea tree oil can, has an adverse effect profile. One of the things is nausea, one's Virgo, and one is headache. So it could have been that. What I do recommend, though, and the teaching thing from this is not, don't use tea tree oil necessarily. I mean, I don't know what, I don't see a lot of benefit in it unless you're using it for.

It's good shampoo. Townail fungus. Yeah, toenail fungus. Thank you, Janet. That was exactly what I was going to say. But you've got to use it for 48 weeks, which is interesting because if you get the prescription stuff, you know, that has got the medicine in it. You know how long you have to use it? 48 weeks.

The study that they did on Vick's vapo rub for toenails said it also works. You know, how long you've got to use it? 48 weeks. It has something more to do with the 48 weeks than it does with what you're putting on it. But anyway, it's pretty interesting. Or it just could be occlusion with anything, you know. But what I want everybody to remember is if you go to your primary care with a problem like I've got these headaches, You have to tell them what over-the-counter stuff and supplements you're using.

I always ask. And sometimes you don't get the answer because they don't think of it. They don't think of that as medicine. Well, and prescription medicines do for that matter. Well, yeah, that part's obvious. But, I mean, yeah. Well, not to everybody. You go in and you tell them your prescription medicines that you're on,

but you've got to tell them your supplements and shit, too. So my primary care knows that I'm on glutamine, alpha lipocast, all that stuff, because I tell them all of that because you just never know one day. But you're right. Not to everybody because I've taken metformin for 20 years. Why does anybody need to know? Yep. Yeah.

A lot of times I'll just forget. You know, we see it a lot with side effects from blood pressure medication. Somebody's taking it for years and all of a sudden they get a rash. And it's like, wait a minute. I didn't even think about that. Yeah. I've been so long. I forgot to tell you I was taking it.

I'm like, I forgot. Yeah, yeah. Little jock off. Fair. Okay. Yeah. Good. But, yeah.

But, yeah. But, no, the supplements are certainly worse. Because a lot of times people forget, oh, man, I forget I was taking it. Yeah. I got some, you know, oh, I'm on this stuff called Stressless from... It's also embarrassed to tell, to pull out a list of everything you're taken and give it to somebody. Oh, yeah, I got this hot nurse and I'm telling her I'm on testosterone and, you know, Cialis. And you have a peanut pump and...

Right. Yes. And a Flatis Flute, too. And I got it in right now. I just call them in. The traffic. Chanda, you have got to buy it. that erectile dysfunction

machine for your place before you retire. She's got two weeks. We've been talking about it for like a year, but my partner that's taken over has used this at the clinics that she worked at in Northern Virginia. Yeah. And

great success. And she doesn't care at all to use them. Yeah. Let's go. I'll do it. I mean, if the guys are embarrassed, which, you know, why would they be? But, you know, having a young attractive nurse practitioner do it. Hell, I'll do it and get some old guy in there.

You'd have people lined out the door. I think that would be part of the, you know, the competitive advantage you would have would be, you know, having... An old guy. No, no, having them do it. Oh, hell, I'd go. The price just went up if I'm doing that. Yes.

Yeah. Do you have to be... You have to do it on a... A flaccid penis, though, right? Correct. Interesting. I'm not sure I could do that. I'm just kidding.

That's the whole reason that I'm going there. I was going to say, isn't that the reason you're there? Yes, exactly, unless I'm just a weirdo. Do guys, when you've got this person rubbing this thing up and down their penis with ultrasound, do they not get erect? I mean, that would be. It does change to a certain degree. If they truly have erectile dysfunction, then it's not going to just become this massive erect. While you're on the table.

I think it would be tough. I don't care how hot somebody is. I could go to the Mustang Ranch and if they're grabbing, you know, stretching my male membership, my jungle region around and then rubbing this probe up and down that's actually hitting it with sound waves that it's not just like regular ultrasound. It's not super comfortable. It's electric shock wave there. I mean, it's electric shockwave therapy. Can't you just go lay your pecker on like an electric fence? No, boy.

I mean, there's plenty of them around here. I was going to say, yeah. Let's do a double-blind placebo-controlled study. You fire structure. I'll do the one with the hot nurse-bred tissue. I'll go to the fence. Loving me up and running this electric shockwave thing, and then you do the electric fence. We'll see who can get a better rod afterwards.

I'm sure to leave a mark. You think? I had a friend that pissed on electric fence, And he was grounded, I guess, because it was dewy out and stuff. And that was not a pleasant experience. He completed the circuit with his urine. That's a strong stream. Fortunately, that causes the sphincter to close up very quickly.

So it was very brief. Quickly became his fastest reacting muscle. Yeah, that's right. Good call back. Dr. Scott, excellent. Well, all right. You guys have anything else? No.

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