Weird Medicine: The Podcast - 564 - Probiotic Oral Treats Wink Wink

Episode Date: October 18, 2023

Ok, disaster has struck and at least a dozen episodes, which were in the can, have been lost. You can check them out on YouTube OR you can listen to these Frankensteinian, cobbled together versions here. Once these are done, we will have new episodes. I explain why this happened in the intro. Sorry for the unprofessional nightmare, but I will be pouring more into this show very soon and I'm hoping the last phase of Weird Medicine will be the best phase. thank you for your continued support! your pal, Steve Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Okay, so here's what happened. I've been holding back a whole bunch of shows, like 10 shows, for when we went independent, because we were under the laugh button, and then the laugh button got sold or disappeared or something. And, you know, that whole laugh button thing was a bit of a disaster for us. I used to have three times the number of downloads when we were under Riotcast. then we did the next day when we moved over to the laugh button because our RSS feed got changed and people were going,

are you guys still making podcasts? I can't find you anywhere. I'm not making fun of them. I'm making fun of the fact that people couldn't find us anymore. And I had to start all over again from scratch trying to rebuild my audience. Well, anyway, the laugh button goes away, and now there's this group called Studio 71. I don't even know who they are, but they have offered to help us out with the show.

And I was going to go independent, but maybe they know more than I do. I don't know. Anyway, I have all these shows in a queue, and my stupid cleaner program that cleans out old files, cleaned out all the shows. So now what's going to happen is I'm not willing to just not put anything out. So I'm going to take the shows and clip off the beginning and the end, and basically you just kind of get what's in between. These are shows that a big chunk of them ran on Sirius XM, and then I'll just take off the XM branded part. there you go. So don't tell anybody. Anyway, so I apologize for the disaster. It will. I promise you get

better. I'm going to start taking this show a lot more seriously going forward. And I have some ideas about some things and doing a little bit more of an interesting video presence rather than just watching us record a show for Sirius XM and then ruining some song at the end. So hang in there. But until then, here's some shows. This one was recorded on August 23rd. And so you can see how long I've been holding these things. And let me see.

Is this the right one? Hell, I don't even know. Yeah, okay. Wait a minute. August 26. Yes. So their kidney transplant from pigs, some headache remedy called Zoc, oral ketones for weight loss, and snorkeling, and some other, I don't even know. I don't know.

So I'm sorry this happened. I try to be a little bit more professional than this, but I had a reason why I was holding these shows back. You may have noticed I've been putting them out like every two weeks instead of every week so that I could build up a backlog. So when we went out on our own, we would have a bunch of shows that I could put out there. Well, that was a stupid-ass idea. And anyway, here's this show, and I hope that there's about eight of them like this. And I'll start putting them out in sort of rapid fire just to get them out there. I would like to have a couple in the can.

It's going to be hard to do now because I only have one that. It's actually in the can that's in podcast format. So it's a little bit of a disaster. But anyway, we shall persevere. And stay tuned by the first of the year, which is just a few months from now. I'm hoping that this will be something sort of brand new, but also familiar enough that people still enjoy it. So I hope you enjoy this. And, you know, Schaden Freud is the best kind of Freud.

a quote from Bob Levy, so enjoy my pain. All right, thanks. I've got diphtheria crushing my esophagus. I've got Tobolivir stripping from my nose. I've got the leprosy of the heartbell, exacerbating my incredible woes. I want to take my brain out, blast with the wave, an ultrasonic,

agographic, and a pulsating shave. I want a magic pill. All my ailments, the health equivalent of citizen cane. And if I don't get it now, in the tablet. I think I'm doomed then I'll have to go insane. I want to requiem for my disease.

So I'm paging Dr. Steve. Dr. Steve. No, Eve. You'll take a careful. All right. And check out Dr. Scott's website at simplyerbils.net.

That's simplyerbils.net. And that's about all I've got on that kind of thing. How's everything going over there? It's an allergy season. It is. It is. Allergy season.

and then the fall is coming in. Everyone needs CBD nasal spray, I guess. That's right. To make it through the fall. Yeah, no, and you can check that on that simply. Orwell, it's not. As much as I give Dr. Scott a hard time, that stuff is amazing. I will say that.

Thank you, Dr. All right. Tacey, do you have fast facts for today? Are we calling them fast facts now? No. That's Chris's thing. She has fast vaj facts. No.

Tacey has. It's Tacey's Time of Topics. Do you have any Topic Time topics? I do have one. It's Tacey's Time of Topics, a time for Tacey to discuss Topics of the day. Not to be confused with Topic Time with Harrison Young, which is copyrighted by Harrison Young and Area 58 Public Access. And now, here's Tacey. Well, hello, everyone.

Hello. Hello. Excuse me for sounding like I smoked seven packs of cigarettes today. I'm currently under the weather with allergies. Yeah, and you tested and it's not COVID. I tested. I tested and it's not COVID. I'm in a meeting today and I'm just all of a sudden just started hacking in the middle of it.

And it's like, golly. You can't do that anymore. So I had to show everybody, no, you can't. Everybody looks at you, especially now with the media going, COVID, COVID, it's coming back. And it's like, yeah, no shit. sort of the other five circulating coronaviruses, we'll see. Most likely, this newest variant will be like the other more recent ones. It'll be mostly upper respiratory.

There will be some illness. I do know some people, young people who've gotten it that have had fevers up to 103, and have ended up, some of them gotten treatments, some not. So maybe a little bit more than just. a regular cold, but that's about what influenza does. I had 105 fever with influenza. That was

a little freaky when you're 60 years old, and you've got 105 temp like some... Your face is melting off your head. Yeah, something's like some little shitty kid. Anyway. Yeah, you were sick. Yeah, that sucked. Yeah. But I got on the

Raleenza, which is my favorite. If you can, by the way, this flu season, if you can get the inhaled version of tamiflu if you get influenza instead of the pill highly recommended okay a lot of people can't take the pill and it causes nausea and stuff like that i've never had any problem with anyone doing the inhaled version except that they can't figure out how to do it right i vomit all over the place on that tamiflu on the tamiflu but not on the relenza though and uh the relenza it's got a it has a little disc and you put the disc in there and then you open this thing

It's got a spike and it punctures the little membrane, and then you just inhale it. And then you put it back down, and it advances to the next one's not that hard. Apparently, it's a fucking rocket science for some people. A little more challenging for certain folks. Well, doing an inhaler is rocket science for some people. If you don't do an inhaler correctly, you will not get the benefit from it. People who don't know what we're talking about. We're talking about multi-dose inhaler.

It's a little sort of L-shaped thing. You put your lips around it. And what I see people do is they'll breathe out when they actuate it. And you're talking about like an inhaler for someone with asthma or something. Yeah, or just, you know, yes, or some condition that's causing them to have bronchospasm or they need something to open up their airways or decrease the amount of mucus that's being produced because that's what Iperotroprium bromide does. and there's lots of different kinds of inhalers,

but I'll see people squeeze the inhaler, the medicine comes shooting out, and then they exhale at the same time. Yep. Well, looky, looky, looky. Miss America. There you are. Let's see.

Are she is. Do I have her music? Oh, gosh. You got music? I don't, yeah. Oh, my God. I don't have music. You don't have music?

I just played your music. That's not my music. That's Time of Topics music. Your show was better when you had medical questions. Agreed. Okay. So anyway. Hey, can you hear with those?

Yeah. Oh, yay. Okay, good deal. Because I fixed them. I can't read because I just ran up the fucking stairs. You can't? You can't breed? Yeah, I can't do that either.

Okay. Well, good. And who wants to do that? We got enough people. You're rude as fuck. Is that rude? Really? Okay, I'm sorry. Good. Don't breed.

Disgusting. Well, we're glad you're here because we've been building up your fast-va-fast. Yeah, and I don't have shit. Well, you had the thing about the average volume. Anyway, see, I just, spoiler alert. Okay. Don't ruin it, Doctor's Day. So let's talk about inhalers just for a second.

And so the trick with the inhaler is you must, do it like you are smoking a joint. You want to suck the medicine down into your lungs, and it's hard to do if you're blowing out at the same time. So this is what you do. Put your lips around it. Start the airflow in, so you're sucking in air, and there is laminar flow going down into your lungs, and then hit the actuator. And don't stop breathing. I see people do that. They start going, and then they hit the actuator, and they stop. And it's a little bit like rubbing your head in a circular motion while patting your stomach. It's hard for some people, but you have to practice it.

Keep inhaling. Don't stop. And when you do that, what you're doing is just basically injecting medication into that laminar flow of air going into your lungs. And then you get a good dose. Okay. All right. Sorry, taste. Oh, no, you're fun.

You're fun. Well, thank you. All right. So what do you got? Okay. came from Stacey to Lodge. Okay, well, fine. If somebody's going to do my homework for me, I'm going to let them.

Absolutely. Yes. So pig kidney xenotransplantation performing optimally after 32 days in human body. Wow. So they transplanted a pig kidney into a human. Yes. Surgeons at NYU, I don't want to misspell the university. Langone Health have transplanted a genetically engineered pig kidney.

That's how I pronounce. Is it ingenue? I don't even know. I don't know. Lengum. Okay, Langone. Well, it continues to function well after 32 days in a man. This man was declared dead by a neurologic criteria and maintained with a beating heart on ventilator support.

Okay. This represents the longest period that a gene-edited pig kidney has functioned in a human and the latest step toward the advent of an alternative sustainable supply of organs for plantation. Yeah, that is really the thing. I mean, God bless all the donor services people, but they are really, what's the word I want to use, DnP, Carissa? Huh? Oh, boy. The donor services folks.

She's taking on that, man. The donor services folks, they're very aggressive. Okay. And they are because, and they've got a certain way they want things said. They don't want anyone, even if we've been doing this for 30 years. They don't want us mentioning that they're even coming to people, which I don't play that way because I'm not going to tell someone, well, we have to wait two hours to, you know, do your, you know,

get your loved one off, the ventilator, for what? Right. And I can't mention that the donor services are coming. So it needs to be. I always do. I know, but they get mad. But it would be nice if we could just do away with that. wouldn't that?

Mm. And so they do editing on these kidneys. Yes. Probably because they put IT apostrophe S when they met ITS or Y-O-U-R instead of Y-O-U-A-O-U-A-R-E, but anyway. What? Okay, this is the fifth time. This was performed, and this work demonstrates that a pig kidney with only one genetic modification and without experimental medications or devices,

can replace the function of a human kidney for at least 32 days. What's the, so I did a single edit, what did they do, does it say? Okay. It's talking about removing this troublesome gene that shows promise. The first hurdle to overcome in this is preventing a so-called hyper-acute rejection. Correct. Which typically occurs just minutes after an animal organ is connected to the human. I've said that on Saturday night.

Let's get rid of these troublesome genes. The gene, by knocking out this gene that encodes the biomolecule known as alpha-gall, which has been identified as responsible for a rapid antibody-mediated rejection of pig ornors. Is it alpha-galactocytes? It just says alpha-gall. Okay. So immediate rejection has been avoided in all five xenotransplantations at this university. The pig's thymus gland, which is responsible for educating.

the immune system was embedded underneath the outer layer of the kidney to stave off novel delayed immune response. Oh, now that's interesting. That's interesting. So they took, that's a poor pig. Yeah. To ensure the body's kidney function

was sustained solely by the pig, they removed the transplants recipient's native kidneys. Oh, my God. And they were both removed. Well, that's the right way to do it, though. if you're going to listen so you've got someone who's brain dead and instead of doing donor services these researchers come up and say hey would you like to further medical science here's what we're going to do now i wonder if they were able i wonder if they were able to do organ donation

after this was over yeah of the kidney right the kidneys that they took out one can you donate have those donated that the pig kidney that was in transplanted and started producing urine immediately. During the observation phase, intense care clinical staff maintained the descendant on support while the pig kidney's performance was monitored and sampled with weekly biopsies.

I think that means decedent. In other words, they were emphasizing that the patient's that's what I meant to say. That they're dead. Levels of creatin, a bodily waste product found in the blood, and an indicator of kidney function were in the optimal range during the length of the study.

Okay. Let's talk a little bit about creatin so people understand what we're talking about. That is a molecule that's very efficiently filtered out by the kidney. So your urine should be high in that, but your bloodstream should be low in that. And when your kidneys start to fail, we start to see creatin and start to rise. It rises in a sort of semi-linear fashion, so the higher it is, the worst the kidney function is. So, yeah, go ahead. And we're saying that stayed normal.

That's awesome. That's your idea. That's amazing. Talks about how there are more than 103,000 people on the waiting list with nearly 88% of those waiting for a kidney. But there's all kinds of fucking pigs out there. Yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah.

In 2022, about 26,000 people received a kidney, but nearly 808,000 have end-stage kidney disease. So there are just starting enough organs. I dated a few of them pigs there, doctor's name. I surely did on my day. That's enough. Too many people are dying because of the lack of available organs. The kidney and thymus gland used in this procedure were procured from a gale-safe pig. What?

I don't know what that is. A gals-safe. It doesn't have the alpha-gal. So it's an animal engineered by Revivacore, Inc. Oh, here we go. Yeah. Oh, oh, here we go. In December 2020.

a way to make a bunch of money off of this. Because you can't sell human organs, but you sure as shit can sell pig organs. Yeah, the FDA approved the gal-safed pig as a potential source. What the hell, though? I mean, could it be a source of other things, too? Right. Well, you know, and I was just

thinking, too. Hearts. Yeah. But, you know, a lot of folks will function on one kidney. Oh, yeah. You know, one pig kidney, you know, God, that'd be wonderful. One pig, good. Two people. Two people. There you and go. You're good at suffering, doctor. Scott.

And you got that her baking left over for the... Just in case. To get you some fat back for you, you put that in your beans there. That's good. Oh, God. They used to, when they've tried this before, they've done up to 10 genetic modifications, but this only had one single gene modification. That's amazing.

So obviously, easier to do, one than 10. Is that saying that we are getting closer to pigs genetically? No, we always have, you know, when we would do dissections, they would use fetal pigs because they're so close to humans as far. Now, the thing is, this is one step. So now you've got these galfrey pigs, and you can get hearts, and you can get kidneys, and you can get whatever, maybe pancreas. Bladders. Bladders. Yeah.

Cool, man. You could get, sure, penis transplant. Well, I got me a hog penis. Oh. Well, why not? Oh, Lord. So you do all this stuff. And then that is a...

I'm so glad I came to this. Aren't you glad you rushed over here? I'm just going to tell you I had two hours of sleep last night. I am a goofy A.F. today. But this is a stepping stone. The next thing we need to be able to do is... is to grow this stuff in the lab. Now, here's the thing about that.

If the pig of kidneys and hearts and lungs and all this stuff work well enough, they're going to be a lot cheaper than figuring out how to do human stuff and growing it in the lab with, you know, 3D cell printers. So it will be a long effing time. If this works, this will be our technology for the next, you know, 10, 15, 100 years, maybe. Because just imagine trying to grow someone's organ with their own markers on it, which obviously is better, well, you think it would be, from scratch, from a single, say, stem cell.

That's going to be a lot harder to do than to just string some poor old pig up and yank their kidneys out. As long as they can... Or just one kitty, maybe. Oh, yeah. Let them run around. Yeah, let them run around. And, you know, to live... let the, yeah, assuming that these gal-free pigs breed true also.

Oh, yeah. You know, because that way you can just let them breed. Right on. So they're going to monitor this patient for another month with permission from the family and the Ethics Committee. Yeah, of course. The Ethics Committee would have to be involved. The Institutional Review Board, the family's got to give consent, obviously. So good for them, though.

But could save thousands of lives. Sure. So there you go. There are cells that are used in monoclonal antibodies that were taken from a woman that had cancer. And her family is trying to get some recompense for that. Her cells are immortal. They just divide, divide, divide. And they were perfect for making these monoclonal antibodies.

And they should get something. The other thing, these families maybe ought to get a little something. more than, well, we'll pay you $1,000 to do this or whatever. They ought to get, I don't know. I mean, what's ethical in this situation? You want to do stuff for pure research, but you know this corporation is doing it to develop a technology to make money. And without that incentive, a lot of this stuff wouldn't get done. So I'm okay with them making a profit off of it, but they really need to, you know, give the family some stocks,

or something, stock options or something. That'd be nice of them to do it. So that down the road, when this becomes standard of care, and they're a trillion-dollar corporations, the family can cash out. But anyway, all right? Got anything else on that, taste? Nope, that concludes.

That was a good one. That's a good one, taste. I can get a bell on that. Give myself a bell. Oh, did I get a bell on that? With an assist from Stacey DeLoge, of course. Yes. Yeah, well.

It's gone. and defiance slight regard anyway all right Shakespeare now DNP Carissa you were

opening something there last time and that was for you just so you know just so you weren't just opening things this is mine now this is the headache

remedy that we were talking about last time, and so I bought one, and it looks like one of those things that you clean lenses with. It's got a little syringe. What the hell is it? It's got a syringe and a little thing in the end that you stick in your ear. Now, is there instructions with it, or do you have to go online to get the instructions? Because I hate when they do that to you. That's the instructions? There's instructions on it, or you can scan the QR code. Do you have, for? We're not going to say their brand name, but what it is is it's sold online as an inexpensive headache relief thing. And what it's supposed to do is take the quote-unquote pressure off,

except what it's doing is taking the pressure out of the external canal of the ear, which is usually not where the headache is unless you have maybe if you had inner or, Sorry, you station tube dysfunction. But even in that case, eustacean tube dysfunction, meaning that you have a caved-in eardrum because there's decreased pressure in the middle ear. But even then, I wouldn't think this would fix it because the fix for that is to blow your nose. And equalize the pressure. And equalize the pressure.

Yeah. Yeah, that's what we're talking about last. Yeah, we were talking about last time. Somebody called him. I could see it working on an airplane, but, you know, but not. I didn't see it working on an airplane, to be honest with you. But they had a lot of anecdotal evidence on there. I didn't see any...

Ooh, it feels so good. I mean, we can use it to clean our lenses on our cameras and stuff. Or your computer keyboard. But you don't happen to have a headache right now, do you? I do not. Okay. Will you take it with you? And when you do have a headache, try it and then let us know.

That will be anecdotal evidence. And even if it doesn't work, they can say, well, that's anecdotal. but it just the one thing is if you buy the damn thing it's cheap you know it's not like they're selling it for

$120 and then you get it and it's a little bulb syringe with a thing on that it looks like a bulb syringe I mean yeah uh oh this is

hang on let's see hello hello hello are you there oh god every time I get those spam calls

and they start going And you, well, mom, this is Medicare calling, and it's like, well, honey, I'm just, and she starts a talk and telling them about the vittles that she ate that day and that she's not good at cypherin and et cetera, et cetera, and bing, click, and they just hang up because they know they're not getting a penny out of her. Anyway, good stuff. Okay, doke. Where were we?

Okay, so you've got that. There's also another package there from your fans at MicroMoggfest that I would not open now. All right. You guys want to take some questions? Yes, absolutely. Let's do it. Number one thing.

Don't take advice from some asshole on the radio. All right, my friend. Here we go. Hi, Dr. Steve. Hi, Dr. Scott. What's up? How are you guys doing? Terrible.

Awesome. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. That's too bad. I had a question about exogenous oral ketones. Okay. I just can't find any. straight information on my own was hoping you could steer me in the right direction are they bullshit or do they work thanks i'll hang up and take your answer off the air okay what's going on

i was waiting for the uh the spute him that she spewed out when she was coughing i coughed into my shirt oh well that's the most hygienic way to do it up here in the i guess yeah you're not wrong You got a point. I mean, I had no idea what was happening. I didn't either. I thought one of you guys passed Flatus and you weren't telling us. Oh, no, no. I was just being ugly to taste.

Okay. Well, I mean, you know, I don't blame you, Scott. Yeah. Hmm. Lord and lady do you back. All right. It's not like we're not in close quarters here. This guy is asking about exogenous ketone.

So, DNP, Chris. want to talk a little bit about ketones and their function and the body and all that kind of stuff? No. Okay, that would be a no. So, thank you. So when you are starving, your body will burn fat. And when it burns fat, it produces these things called ketone bodies.

And basically what they are, they are products of lipolysis or otherwise, or in other words, fat breakdown. When you break down fat, you produce these ketone bodies. Don't worry what they are so much. They are a specific form of an organic chemical molecule, which I made in the lab

when I was an organic chemist, and I made a lactone once, and it was kicked everybody's ass. So that was cool. Anyway... Do you want to give yourself a bail? No, thank you. I already did. I published it in the Journal of Organic Chemistry. Thank you very much.

Oh, my God. Half a leuton. So what happens is when you're on, say, a low-carb diet, people will call these, you know, ketotic diets or I'm in ketosis because they're producing ketones, right? And so people go, well,

if I'm producing ketones, maybe if I take ketones by mouth, that will help me lose weight. And so the question always happens with these things. It's true of any medicine. If someone's saying, well, is aspirin good? You know, does aspirin work? Well, for what?

Yeah. Pins. Does it work for diabetes? No. Does it work to reduce mortality during a heart attack? Yeah. Does it work to prevent cancer in people, particularly with, familial polyposis?

Hell yeah, it does. But does it prevent rickets? No. So you got to, what's your end point? So this guy just said, well, or ketones work. So I'm going to assume that what he's talking about is, is it good for weight loss? And what they found is that there are some human studies that taking ketones by mouth, rather than producing them internally, can actually lower blood glucose and improve some aspects of cognitive function.

I actually make you more alert and oriented and stuff like that. And so there might be some benefit in things like type 2 diabetes or dementia or something like that. That's interesting. Yeah, it is interesting. But a lot of people will tell you when they're on a ketotic diet or, you know, Atkins type or low-carb diet, that they feel more alert and more energetic. and it may actually be not just the lowering of the blood sugar and leveling out of the insulin levels. It could be the ketones that you're producing.

It may actually have some sort of beneficial effect. Okay. So that's interesting, isn't it? And DNP Carissa, you changed your hair. It looks quite lovely. Thanks. Yeah. I haven't seen you in a while, so now it looks good.

Did it purple? Yep, sort of purple. Sort of purple. Yeah, it's not, well, it just, you know, it doesn't look purple from here. but um rude well i'm sorry does it look purple i think it may be the lighting i can tell it's the lighting i can't tell all right so yeah we've uh it's pretty purple is it oh my gosh oh no there it's cool now oh my god it's so purple now well i've seen you when you had it like bright purple yeah well that was done professionally i did this myself okay um well there you go i am not a

professional in any matter. All right. Okay, so anyway, anything else on exogenous oral ketones? No. Okay. This call is from 2021. I'm finally clearing out some of the old phone calls. Good Lord.

Hi, Dr. Steve. This is Phil from Tampa. I was calling because I just listened to the most recent episode he put out today. Today is the 26th of August. 26th of August, 2021. No, 2021. And I just want to call and say, I understand your frustration about talking about COVID all the time. But for me personally, your voice has really been an anchor in this tidal wave that seems to be COVID.

Okay. So I had a shitty day today, so I'm playing this to make myself feel better. Prepare the bed. I have really dependent on you, whether for good or bad, to provide relevant to. and factual and honest information. Admittedly, I was a little disappointed with the Stacey thing, but I have certainly been a position where friends can kind of, you know, put you in a work position.

But I just want to call and say thank you for everything that you've done during this year and a half. And God forbid the pandemic goes on longer and longer, I would hope to rely on you for more. But my question is, is if you decide to scale back on talking about COVID, what are some sources of news that you trust you know, implicitly, or at least as close to implicitly as you can. I visit COVID.com regularly, and I'm glad to hear that our T website is coming back.

But if there was anything else, that you could recommend a new source, a site, whatever. Yeah, for just medical news, I'm Alex Jones. Who are these podcasts? I like, I mean, Medscape is decent. what medical websites you guys follow? Anything? Just follow me on Twitter. I'll tell you what's what.

You guys don't bother looking at anything. I don't follow anything. I think a lot of the journals are pretty solid, but they're not always user-frailing necessarily. Yeah, there's up-to-date, but it's... PubMed's always pretty reliable. PubMed is great. Well, it's reliable in the sense that it presents articles to you.

that are in the medical literature without putting any commentary on them. Right. So the articles are just as they are. Now, if the person fudged the date or something, you have to be pretty savvy to pick up on that. You can if you've been around the block a few times, you can pick out studies that are crap. But there's no commentary.

So if you want unbiased commentary on, or no comment. whatsoever on published articles in the medical literature, yeah, PubMed.gov, you can't beat it. And people go, well, I'm going to gov.com.gov. It's not, it's just, it's the National Library of Science. Yes, it is funded by the government, but this is one of those things that's actually okay. So that question, though, is relevant today with all the COVID stuff in the news. So where would you recommend people go? I mean, are you just saying... To find out if it's bullshit or not, or what's important and what isn't?

Just to keep up just with COVID, where would you recommend that they go? Oh. Are you still saying just PubMed? No, no, no, no, no. No, I mean, Scott was just talking about an unbiased place to get medical news. And I still think for the layperson medscape is decent. It hasn't been overrun with a lot of commentary. You know, the CDC, if you know how to filter out some malarkey is pretty good.

One of the things with the CDC, they published the data, and it's like, how clueless are you? Where they said only 6% of people who died in the hospital actually had a COVID diet. It's like they were commenting on how poorly people fill out death certificates because they were looking at death certificates. So for example, DNP Carissa, if you have someone that dies of, let's say they have COVID-19, they come in with viral pneumonia and hypoxia, low oxygen, and then they have a pulmonary embolism. and then they have a cardiac arrest and then they die. How would you code that in a death certificate? Cardiopulmonary arrest. Due to.

Respiratory failure. Due to pulmonary ambalism. Due to COVID. Yeah, there you go. So that's the proper way to do it. You don't just put COVID-19 as the diagnosis. And so people are like, well, only 6% of death certificates actually say that's because because most doctors don't know how to code a death certificate properly.

Okay. I see this all the time. You know, when I was a medical examiner, it was unbelievable what people would put on those things because they're not really trained to do that. We're trained to keep our patients alive. They don't really talk about, well, what do you do when they die? It's just common sense. Yes, for Kay Dunning Kruger, for people like you who have IQs of 180-something,

it is common sense. It's not common sense for the run-of-the-mill person, you know, even who have gone through medical school. So that's part of the problem. But the CDC will have data on there. If you don't trust them, that's okay. Come here, you know that we're going to evaluate the data and look at it and try to give the most unbiased information that we can

if it becomes a thing again. I made several statements during, during the beginning of the pandemic and throughout the pandemic, and most of the stuff that I said, I'm not, well, I am panning myself on the back a little bit, ended up being correct because we looked at the data and didn't look at people's opinions. One of the things that I said in the beginning, fuck off, it's a DNP Chris and I can face Sammy. One of the things that I said during the pandemic that was incorrect was in early days, I said most

people won't get it, and most people who do get it won't die. Now, the second part of that was correct. But the first part, it turned out to be incorrect, but we weren't, and when I said that, we were still in OG COVID. And OG COVID had a basic reproductive number that said that if we just did a couple of things, that it would die out, just like SARS and MERS did. But instead it mutated and became the piece of shit, you know, endemic coronavirus that we have today. So anyway. All right. So it's a tough one. It is tough.

There is a, what is the name of that app that I found? And what it does is it looks, oh, it's called Ground News. It's free. Okay. Ground News. And what ground news does is they will categorize something as being far right, far left, or in the middle. So, for example, I'm looking at this app right now, and it's free. And you can say, I just want to see COVID-19 news.

But here's an article that says DOJ charges 371 people, launches new COVID fraud strike fires. and it is 46% of the articles in here are on the left, 46% in the center, and then 8% on the right. Okay, and so if you want to read the right wing side, you can click on that, or you can just click on the center. And these people seem to be pretty decent at... categorizing things as right, center, or left. And I don't want my news to be either one.

But, you know, I'll listen to Jimmy Dorr, who is as far left as you can get, and then listen to, I don't know, Anthony Brian Logan, who's pretty out far on the right. And, you know, I try to listen to all kinds of stuff and then synthesize it myself. But if you don't have the time to do that, then something like ground news, you can just pick center and then just go with it. And you'll know.

what the truth is over time. And, you know, people got, if we're talking about COVID, people got crapped on for doing their own research. No, that was the right thing to do. Anyone that crapped on somebody for doing their own research, yeah, they're not scientists, they're not physicians. But it's okay to, before you take a blood pressure medicine to go do your own research, see if it's something that you want to take.

What about the adverse effects? Dr. Scott will say, if more people did that, he'd be seeing fewer people. That's right. You know, so I think it's perfectly okay to do that. Why would we tell people it's anti-intellectual to say, well, you can't do your own research. We say that about everything except this particular virus. That's the purest form of controlling your environment. Yeah.

Correct. And it's the purest form of control to tell people. that they need to stay ignorant. Yep. So I have you. Ew. What about ignorance? Mm-hmm.

You don't like ignorance. You don't like that. Now, who the fuck likes ignorance? Ew. Ew. We ain't got no time for that. Ew. Nobody has time for ignorance.

Hey, Dr. Steve. I've got a question about my eyes. I was snorkeling the other day, and the conditions weren't very good. So my eyes were unfocused. Yes. And we're looking at, you know, like the light blue and then the same. and the field of vision was very light. So my eyes were unfocused, and I kept seeing,

it almost looks like a, I want to say it looks like a film on my eye. It also looks like I'm looking at like a bacteria, long-stained bacteria under an electron microscope. Yep. And it's almost like a long hair that moves. Yep. And it also, I guess you could say it looks like, you know, the heat coming off of a jet engine, like at an airport.

I'm just wondering what that is. If it's healthy, I've heard people talking about floaters, and I don't really know what that is, but just wondering if it's normal or if it's healthy or if it's something I should look into. Thanks. Well, okay, so do you guys know what he's talking about? I was going to say floaters.

That's what I was going to say to you. Yeah, very good. Okay, so everybody gets a bell. Give myself a bell. Yes. I'm still one behind. That's right. So the reason he saw them is because his eyes were unfocused.

I'll see them if I look at certain, like if I look in a microscope because my eyes are focusing differently. I would have been a terrible histopathologist because my eyes are full of floaters and we'll talk about why in a second. But yeah, so there is debris on the inside of your eye in that vitreous humor as we get older particularly, the vitreous, which is a gel-like substance,

that's optically pretty clear, will sometimes shrink and pull away from the retina. And when it does that, it's called a vitreous attachment. And all kinds of cells and stupid stuff will float into or will flood into the space between the now vitreous that's no longer attached to the retina and the retina. And now it's just got fluid in there. And those things are actually cells. and little bits of debris broken. It could be rods from your retina that are just floating around in there.

And light will pass through the eye and then hit one of those and cast a shadow on the retina. And that's what you're seeing. It could look like little red blood cells and it might actually be. I have those. And then the worms. Squiggly things. And if you move your eyes, you can see them shoot up

and then you'll see them sort of float back down again. Kind of suspended in that fluid is what it looks like. And it's actually backward. When they injected stuff into my eye, steroids into my eyeball, it actually floated to the bottom, and I saw it in the top of my vision because it's upside down. Remember the eye flips the image and then the body turns it back around again. The brain, sorry, what I say, the body.

We know what you're in. It's part of the body. Yeah, it's part of the body. But, yeah, the brain flips it over and goes, that's upside down. So, yeah, so that's what that is. Those are floaters. Now, if you have sudden onset of floaters, like I did, that is most likely a vitreous attachment.

You're looking up at the sky, and all of a sudden it just fills up with floaters. if you have lightning like light well lightning flashes of light especially when you turn your eye a certain way or anything like that you may have a retinal detachment

so go get seen go get it checked out by a good ophthalmologist and they'll look in there and see now what happened to me is that I got at the vitreous detachment and two days later

my eyesight went from 2020 to 2200 and that detachment actually caused inflammation in my eye had a thing called posterior uveitis which is why if you go to YouTube.com slash at Weird Medicine and scroll down you can see them injecting shit into my eyes and it is steroids

I had to have that done multiple times that's been almost 20 years hasn't it? Yeah we were still in Rogersville when it started I was going to say it's been a long time and oops we were still in the that little town. That little town in Upper East Tennessee. What time is that we need to change that? Forty-

54. Yeah, we were in a little town. In a little town in Upper East Tennessee. And I saw the optometrist there who then sent me to an ophthalmologist who then sent me to the retinal

specialist. But if you go there, you can the one video I've got with 300 100,000 views on it. I can't monetize because it's a medical procedure. Is my ophthalmologist taking a sty out of my eye?

It had turned into a chalaisian. Remember we talked about those where the sty will scar down. It makes a little fibrous thing. It makes a lump in your eyelid that you can't get rid of. And they have to go in and cut it out and scoop it out. It's way fun. 300,000 views on that. And then we talk about actual COVID-19 all during the pandemic.

I think the most I ever got was a thousand years. We do try to, the video thing is kind of on the DL, so we don't push it. Right. We get all of them. Unless you're getting big shots in your eyes. We're still a radio show. You want to make people gross. Yeah, well, we're still a radio show.

We just do the video thing because Rob Sprantz a long time ago told us we had to. Anyway, but we enjoy hanging out with the fluid family. Now, Nick Illig in the fluid family, which, by the way, if you want to hang out. in the waiting room and join the Fluid family. That's correct. Follow us on Twitter at Weird Medicine, but also subscribe to our YouTube channel.

And then when we go live, you can listen to it live and watch us because, well, boy, we look so amazing. Well, Carissa and Tacey do, but Scott and I, I mean, he's got a man bun for God's sake. Yes. But anyway. So do I.

Because I'm... When I knew it's not a man. Bonn. If you and then you can ask questions in the waiting room. And so Nick Ilig,

who is brother to Mike Illig, who is a.k.a. Cap'n Mike. Check him out at avidangling.com. But he says, if Steve is taking questions from the chat,

I'd be interested at how he is enjoying provigil. So I wouldn't say enjoying is exactly the word. So I take provigil. It is now generic. It used to be $800 a month.

Now it's way cheaper and covered by insurance. And it is a drug called modafinil, which they use from what I hear. And we've got to get Dr. Jesse in here. The guy who, what was he? It was a Ranger, right? Army Ranger. He was an undercover guy. He was there at Torabora, and that was all going down.

Anyway, DNP Carissa, that was the first guy I was going to try to hook you up with from the radio show was Dr. Jesse. I'm so glad. But anyway, well, you're single, they're single. You know, I'm always, Tacey will tell you I'm always trying to hook up my single friends with people. And, you know, I'm sometimes successful, sometimes not. Well, anyway. Most of the time not. No, they're always a good match.

It just doesn't work out for reasons that we're not going to talk about. on the show, right? Right. Right. So anyway. So, what the fuck was I talking about? Something. Pro-vigil.

Oh, provigil, yeah. So we'll have to ask Dr. Jesse about that. But what I hear is that the military will use this drug when they're on patrol or whatever, and they've got to be up for 36 hours. They call them go pills. Now, that could be apocryphal. It could be a bunch of crap, but that's what I've heard. I could imagine it, though, because what I can imagine it, though,

because what it does is it improves executive function. It is a so-called nootropic or neotropic, depending on how you want to pronounce it. And it improves mental quickness, but awake alertness is the big thing without making you feel like a goof. And I have narcolepsy, and the problem is I've got an hour and a half drive to one of the clinics that I go to, and I was falling asleep on the way home from there. And so my sleep doctor put me on this provigil. I really like it. It works a lot better if I don't take it every day for me.

Because if I take it every day, I get like this. And then I couldn't sleep last night. I slept two and a half hours, two hours and 40 minutes, to be precise. And, you know, I'm a weirdo. And I get, you know, I'm emotionally. I'm emotionally dysregulated sometimes. And I say stupid things. and all this kind of stupid

and then you start talking with puppets and that's a problem That's such a problem Speaking of which No Okay I won't do that Please Yeah

My fault Nobody likes the puppets Thanks, what puppet was that? That was Cleetis He'll be coming out in Detroit With Tuckie and Bidabler But I hope If he'll let me

If you want to see something Kind of funny just Google Now Tacey's shaking her Okay forget You know what Fuck I Just go to our website

And I'll put a link there But there was one of the Puppets did something mildly humorous And I'll be Paying for it ever said Ever ever ever after Anyway so yes Clint those are floaters

If they're acute Get them checked out If you get a bunch of them Acutely Vitreus detachment. If you get lightning flashes in your eyes when you move them, that is very likely a retinal detachment. Get that checked. Right home. All right. And let's do this one. Let's see. Here, we've got a couple minutes left. Steve in the borough. Amen. I was listening to the weird medicine show, although I've been

listening to my Patreon show. Excellent. On a road trip. Thank you. And you were talking about a healthy vagina wall and the lack of bacillus, I believe it is. Would there be any value probiotic-wise when giving a woman oral treats for the person performing the act? That's my question. Okay. I'm not sure what the question is.

Obviously, we were talking about lactobacillus being the normal vaginal flora, and so when you got lots of lactobacillus in the vagina, that's a good thing. thing. And I made the point that it's proof that God has a sense of humor because that's also the same bacteria that makes yogurt into yogurt. And it also makes kombucha into kombucha and other stuff like that. So it's, you know, and you can use plain yogurt as a douche for some women that have bacterial vaginosis. That was an old school thing to do. Right. So he's asking Yeah, he's asking, I think if he was eating yogurt or something, if he

was going, eating at the Y? Is that what he's saying? Yes. Would there be probiotic benefit to that? So he's trying to help his partner. He's trying to help his partner. No, he's trying to help himself. Oh, no, he's trying to help his partner. Well, he's trying to help himself. Oh, no. He's saying, is the

probiotic going to help him? Anyway, here's where the copyright right, theme music comes in. So we'll see you next time. Check your stupid nuts for lumps, quit smoking, get off your asses, get some exercise. We'll see you in one week, maybe sooner for the next edition of weird medicine. What a cluster.

Thanks.